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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've seen some references to r v's so that are compostable.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I guess so, But don't they.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Have that tank? Maybe not all of them?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Who sent that photo this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh voight somebody voight with your Winnebago, John Winnebago and
composting toilet.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Here it's is composting toilet for van's trailers, sprinters and
r v's fine.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Five. Hi Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Good morning. How are you doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm doing great, Thank you. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Well, yeah, we do it, just like you were just
talking about the harv's and stuff. We go camping four times,
five times a year. We use it all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
There's nothing wrong with it, now, can you. I don't.
I don't. I don't think I've ever used a composting toilet.
What what what exactly is it?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
It's just a five gallon bucket with a lid on it.
I mean you put sawdust in it and there you go,
and once you're done, you pick up the bag tied
up and put it in the back until you get
home after camping.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And so when when you say you put sawdust in it? Right?
And then you said it was what a five gallon,
five gallon barrel or whatever.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeah, like a five gallon bucky. You get a home
depot or something like that, and they come with lids
and stuff by you get an outdoor world or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And how much sawdust are you putting in there?
Speaker 5 (01:17):
About two to three cups per use?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And is that? Does that stop up my piss? Yes?
Speaker 6 (01:24):
That and whatever else you do and so and that's
and everybody uses it, yes, everybody.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
That's camping with you. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I remember
back in the eighties we used to dig a hole
behind a tree and that's how we had to do it.
But now we got this, and it's much better.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh, y'all fancy, And the every everything goes in there,
sissy duty and toilet.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Paper, everything, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And how long do you and then and then you
bring it home? What do you do with it when
you get home?
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Well, you put it in your trash can and throw
it away because it's in a plastic bag, I mean,
tie it up and snow smells. No, nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
No way.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Aren't you not supposed to do that? You're not supposed
to put human waste in the garbage like a diaper.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I don't know. We've been doing it for years. I've
never heard of that.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I think you're fine.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, I got the dip the diaper. Genie used to
pack it full and then bag it up and throw
in the track.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
But that's not just loose stool.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
But he says it's in a bag. It's in like
a self contained little bag.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
But I wouldn't the whole wouldn't the whole idea behind
composting be so that you're not just throwing it in
the trash? Like doesn't that defeat?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So what do you want to put it in your garden?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Like I understand. I understand that you may not have
a running toilet so that you're just crapping in the bucket.
I get that, But I would I would assume that
composting is so that you don't flush it into the
public system, or that you don't throw it into like
the garbage area. Like I feel like that goes against composting.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
No, well maybe, yeah, I guess it would. But for
camping no, but at home, I see what you're saying. Yeah,
that does go against what that is. Yeah, but campin
that's something totally different.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I guess yeah, no, no, And again I understand for
it's a it is a to me, that's not composting.
I mean, I understand it maybe a composting toilet, but
you're just you're really just using it for ease, with
the idea of throwing it out when you get home.
But like people who hey, thank you sir, people who
compost food, it's not like they compost the food and
(03:36):
then throw it in the garbage.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
They use it for things in the garden.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, in the garden, for the grass whatever. I don't
know what you use it for.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It's gross, yes, So putting it in the garbage like
a diaper does against compost feat the purpose slightly, because
if you have a compost of or a biodegradeable bag,
you could argue maybe that in a landfill this is
a lot better than a diaper. But what he explained
is so different than my knowledge, which is mostly kind
(04:06):
of informed by Todd Glass. But I thought he told
us three different things that are that are maybe just
when it's for in a home versus a camping setting.
Why there are, in my mind, my mind's stark differences.
One didn't he say the bulle itself is divided, so
(04:27):
you have to angle yourself so that there's a one
in a two side to the to the toilet. Todd
told us that I believe so because he then said.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Wait, so I got to figure out, well, I should
be able to tell by the by the staining which
one goes where. But I have to I have to,
like like I'm dropping a bomb somewhere. Yes, I gotta
move myself around on the on the seat so I
know where where I'm plunkin.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So that's one O two. Didn't he say the home
he stayed in wanted to keep the bowl contents contaminant free,
so he had to put used toilet paper in a
separate bin to the side of the toilet. Yes, so
you can't just throw that in there?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Also, no, No, so he definitely said there was a separate
bin for toilet paper, which he said is the most disturbing. No,
you know what's the most disturbing, A freaking log hanging
on to the side of that bowl. For dear life.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
At three? Didn't he say the homeowners would then dig
holes and bury this material.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I don't know what the I don't know what the
end result was. I bet I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I feel like they were then returning it to the soil.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
God flush it, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So that's I was a little more committed.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I won't compost food. You think I'm going to compost this?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Well, they give your children's children.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Thought, it wasn't Where am I going, Kristen? These can't
all be people who compost their crap? Oh hi, elliot
in the morning?
Speaker 7 (06:14):
More is this me?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Who's this?
Speaker 7 (06:18):
This is Joe from Cascade, Maryland.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Do you compost your your bathroom?
Speaker 7 (06:26):
When I was twelve years old, stayed with my aunt
and uncle up in Michigan, and they had a compost toilet.
They only used a windmill of solar panels for energy.
They're like old school hippies.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So what did you so like? Did you like when
you had to go to the bathroom? What'd you do?
Speaker 7 (06:48):
It was this little room they had in this shack
that we stayed in up there, and there was a
blanket for a curtain, and uh, it was just this big,
weird bob and it had a little crank wheel on
the bottom like a hand turn. And we had to
use peat moths. There was a bag of peet moths
(07:09):
next to the toilet and we would put the peat
moss on after we got done, and then we would
use the hand crank wheel to roll it over to
the I guess there was a big pile underneath. There
a big hole for it.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh my goodness, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
And they would use it for their pot garden. They
grew a lot of vegetables and different stuff, but they
swore it threw the best spot.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
All right, very good, thank you, sir, thank you. If
somebody told me these cucumbers are from our garden and
I was like, oh, that's awesome, they were like, oh
you know what, you know what made Like that's a
big cucumber. Oh yeah, we use all of our feces
on it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You don't blink at manure for fertilizer.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Because I'm not talking to the guy who made the
maneuver the cow. So that's the that's what the toilet
looks like.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
It can look like that. Say you're in diverter. Now,
certain body types would struggle with this.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's just it's.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Is that what you meant? But they made great, great
fertilizer for cucumbers.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Actually, I was thinking a very petite person could have
problems getting over the number two it's where the salads
go right and still being able to angle properly, properly
for the urine drain. Yeah, build up on quads because
(08:53):
this one is very distinct. And you told me that
you'd probably be able to tell it what with the staining.
But then there's there's some where it's it's not separated
that much, and you have to really.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
What goes under it though, Like what is that going into?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Is it just like a bucket? Look at those are
straps to help you carry it?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
God damn what.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
It's heavy.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
If I saw that in someone's house, I would be like,
you know what, this is going to be a great weekend.
But I just had to change your heart.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I'm going to an hotel.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Hotel, I'm a bonvoy member.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
But do you see this one has the too little
where did it go? It's got two little holes for
liquid and then two little holes for liquid. Well, you
don't need something that will fit a turd, so this doesn't.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Oh, I see what you mean. I thought you met
one was for boy sissy, once for girls sister.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
No, no, no, no. And when you talk about anatomy,
actually I could see.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Look inside that, look inside.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
That this process I feel like I didn't consent. Would
be wouldn't be more difficult for a female?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
No that one?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
No? No, just maybe in general, because there is some
aiming required.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I just well, yeah, Also it's going in the same place.
Who cares?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
No, No, these these are going to drain into some
sort of basin, oh for for liquids. And then this
is going.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I'm not I'm not making that dime sized hole.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Into your garden.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
No, no offense, Diane, but you're not especially And again
Jackie and I keep the door closed. But at the
end there's a that's not going in the that's not
going in the hole. That's that's like, that's like you
know what that is. That's like as an orca to
blow into a small hole.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So this here too, well they had this. This one
shows you you can stall a fan.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That one, This one I at least believe was used.
Look at it dirty, look at it.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh god, it's the plywood that makes it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
No, the plywood. Look at the bowl. That's like looking
at somebody that's smiling and going like, oh, I can
tell you drink coffee and smoke. Look at the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Who makes the who makes the white strips for this thing.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Why would you make the toilet white? Also that one?
How do you get the solids in that hole?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I think you have to remove the cap when you
have to go the.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Cap Wait, I had to push it down. I don't
even like like on the on the garbage where you
got to push it in.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Sorry, something something came up. I can't come this weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
And then you know to empty the solid tank when
it's difficult to turn the crank. Oh she full? No smell,
no smell?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Oh okay, all right, elliot doesn't smell either.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I have five gallons of crap that not even fresh,
that have been in this room. But no smell. No smell.
If you know why, because the whole house smells like it.
So when you don't go in there and go, oh
the bathroom smell, the whole ethen house stinks.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
If you've ever used a dry toilet before, you know
sewage smell as the result of liquid and solad being mixed.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's how you get a rash. That's what they always
tell you. That's true. But either either babies or an
adult if I mean if you, if you, if you
make an accident in your pants, do not have any
sissy come out, because that's what gives you the birds.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Okay, they admit if you do, if you plunge your
head into the bowl, you can smell it. No, will
smell something best described as earthy, but it won't be
the poop smell.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, well, why are these people outright lying?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Tell me? You mean to tell me. If I go
into the bathroom and I crap in my hands, I
don't get any urine in it. But I crap in
my hands and I walk in and I place it
directly under Diane's nose. But well, first I did put
that that blindfold daughter, and I put it right under
her nose. She's gonna go, oh, did you take me outside?
(13:29):
It's very earthly?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh god? Is it mult season already?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
No, it would be like did you go to bed
with an itchy butt?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Why do you have a pile of duty in your hand?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Not sure if we can be so quick to assume that.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
With that b herb.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
So you don't believe this right now?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
No, they're trying to sell a product.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
The only way smells is if urine hits it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You can put all the butterflies you want on your website.
You're not fooling meat.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Where am I going?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Every every composting toilet website and blog? A lot of
these people have blogs say there is no foul odor.
Absolutely whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay, are you guys gonna be upset during the break?
I am going into the bathroom and I'm crapping on
a hand towel. But is it gone?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Is it gonna?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Bee?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Did the restaurant bring mushrooms solid enough?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
You know we need a good example.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'll use sawdust to form it.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Now you're throwing in Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I bet it still smells over the saw dust. Fine. Three,
Hi Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Commertime, picnic over Elliott's out.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Everyone enjoy absolutely, Hi Elliott the morning. Hello, Yeah, Hi,
who's this?
Speaker 8 (15:16):
This this Heather from Springfield?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yes, and do you compost your bathroom?
Speaker 8 (15:22):
Not my house, but my husband and I have a
boat that we keep an Annapolis and we have a
composting toilet that we've had for about a year.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Now, have you emptied it?
Speaker 8 (15:33):
I have not. I make him do it.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay, But where do you empty it? Oh? Right into
the bay?
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Oh no, no, although you can do that with the
pea bottle because it separates the pea and the poof basically,
and the so he takes it, he takes out the
like the poop part of it, and he puts it
into a trash bag, like one of your other callers said,
and you throw that away. But it honestly truly I
(16:00):
when he said to me that he wanted to get this,
and I was like, we're on a boat, which is
super small.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You're getting you're getting ready to lie?
Speaker 8 (16:08):
I s where to God? I swear to God, we
had a regular toilet before, and walking into the boat
before with like just the regular pipes and everything, and
the holding tank there, we could tell after like a
long weekend you'd get back into the boat and be like,
oh man, we need to empty the holding tank. Now
we can go easily three months without having to empty
(16:32):
it at all.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Log I can't wait till August.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Where to God as well, obviously depends on how much
you're actually going. But we use coconut husks. I heard
some people you can use the variety of things, but
we use coconut husks. As were like, well, not to
wipe with, no, to put it on that, to put.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It in the to mix it up with that is
the hippiest thing I've heard all day.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's so God, I know.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
And I have to tell you when my husband said
to me that he wanted to put this in our boat,
I was like, you're out of your ever loving mind
because who wants to do that, and especially you were
talking about the females. Like I was really worried about
how this works out for girls. And so when we
first got it again, I think we've had a little
over a year, and I would only pee in it
(17:21):
for like the first few months, and then I had
to go into like an actual you know, building to
go number two. And finally I didn't have a choice
one time and regular toilet, I swear to God, And
but I tell what you do have to do as
a female. You do have to try to like pee
(17:42):
first before you boop, and like you open up the
little like the hole that it goes.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Into, right, because at that you do that that whale
blowhole thing.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Maybe some people do. Yeah, it is definitely it's easier
than you would anticipate it to be, especially as a female.
Like I was really really not looking forward to it.
And I said to him, if it's not working, then
I we're getting back the other one, But we got
rid of our holding tank, and you have and actually
(18:25):
we've had guests come over and have no problems using
it either.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
So right, no, but have you have you ridden home
with them to hear them mock you and laugh at you.
I have not, so anyway, So the whole reason I
bring this up, Thank you, ma'am, Thank you with your
three months of filth. So these two people, can you
(18:50):
see them?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, Diana Scott?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
They they so they were they were staying at a
place like like they did not their house, but they
were staying somewhere and I can't remember how long they
were there. They were there for a while, but when
they left, it was composting, so they would have the
barrels of piss and duty.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Waiting to be buried or what have you.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
They left behind one hundred and fifty eight barrels of
human way.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
What were they running this place? Yeah? Oh you said, staying?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, well and also stayed there, but yeah, but they
left behind one hundred and fifty eight barrels of human waste.
Hey see you guys, time's up.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
So had the place gone bankrupt or something? They just
fled or.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
No, no, no, they were going back home, like they
were staying there for I don't remember how long, Like
they were working there, just them. Yeah, look here, look
at the picture. That's all their barrels of crap.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
And I see a lot of barrels there. Yeah, they
may want to go to a doctor.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
No smell though, No, I mean, I can't even tell
I got one hundred and fifty eight barrels of ass.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
It's earthy tank tank rights. The smell I had come
out of my ass yesterday and I couldn't stay in
the room. No way, this don't smell like s Kristen Kristen.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Hi Elliott. In the morning, I.
Speaker 9 (20:19):
Used an accomplished toilet for like a school trip and
then so really it's just like a normal toilet, but
there's no there's no water, it's just like a hole.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You know what what school son? How old are you, sir?
Speaker 9 (20:33):
I'm in an environmental center. So we went to a
CICAB foundation. They're like all about like the ecosystem everything,
so they have like complishing toilets.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
And how did anybody did anybody like? What what what
grade are you in right now? I'm in I'm in
ninth grade right when? How what grade were you in?
When you when you went to the composting toilet this
year's ninth grade. Oh, okay, did you use the toilet?
Speaker 9 (21:02):
Yeah? It doesn't snow about it. It's just like in there.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, no, it's it's stings, coconut husk. Did you go
number one or did you go number two?
Speaker 9 (21:15):
I mean both?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
You know, got a boy? You know what? Good on you?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Because no, let me tell you son, let me tell
you why. Elliott's proud of you. No, no, no, because
a lot of and you. I'm sure you have friends
like this who won't go, won't make number two at school.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'm shocked. I used to do an old.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Trip to it all the time. Field trip's even better.
You don't have to worry. Is like, everybody doesn't walk
in and see you, just your other dorky friends that
are going to the Earth Center.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
The toilet.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Hey are you there?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
What?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah? Turn the radio down, turn the radio down. No, no,
you're fine. So when you went in there was like,
were you freaked out?
Speaker 9 (21:57):
I mean no, they explained it to us. They're like,
we don't use them tools to us, like a compost,
and it was like, yes, it's definitely a new experience.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You know, were you the only were you the only
one that went or did was everybody like, oh dude,
we got to try this.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
No, so I mean you have to use a restroom,
you know sometimes so most people went. My brother went
to he's in the car.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
He's just recording, I guess, recorded me in the bathroom.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well good, not recording in the bathroom, he's recording the call.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And what did they did they tell you? What did
they do with your duty? Afterwards?
Speaker 9 (22:37):
They just use this like whatever they need, you know,
I don't know, decomposed.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I got you, I got you. Hey, did you like
it enough where you tried to convince your your old
man like, let's do this at the house.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
I mean it's okay, but I didn't remember water one's better.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I'm with you. You think your mom would go
for it?
Speaker 9 (22:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
No, proably not. Well she probably don't even poop. All right,
Very good, very good, Thank you son?
Speaker 7 (23:05):
The problem man?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Okay, do you have to go yet?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Say again? Oh, I can always go, but I'm going
to bring it in on a hand towel. Well, think
about yan, what are you shaking your head for? You
won't even know what.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
If he goes in the cups of a hula girls, spra,
isn't that coconut?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
No? No, But is the problem? You don't want to
see it, because I'll go in a cup.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I don't want to see it. I don't want to
smell it. I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Stop it because it doesn't smell. Okay, it smells earthy.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Or soily, not so ill, soily.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I mean, we can save time, and I could just
give you my underwear to smell. But that's mixed with
urine and blood.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Oh my god, synthetic fibers unless do not, you don't
wear them.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Maybe I'm wearing compostable underwear.
I've seen some references to r v's so that are compostable.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I guess so, But don't they.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Have that tank? Maybe not all of them?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Who sent that photo this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh voight somebody voight with your Winnebago, John Winnebago and
composting toilet.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Here it's is composting toilet for van's trailers, sprinters and
r v's fine.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Five. Hi Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Good morning. How are you doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm doing great, Thank you. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Well, yeah, we do it, just like you were just
talking about the harv's and stuff. We go camping four times,
five times a year. We use it all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
There's nothing wrong with it, now, can you. I don't.
I don't. I don't think I've ever used a composting toilet.
What what what exactly is it?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
It's just a five gallon bucket with a lid on it.
I mean you put sawdust in it and there you go,
and once you're done, you pick up the bag tied
up and put it in the back until you get
home after camping.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
And so when when you say you put sawdust in it? Right?
And then you said it was what a five gallon,
five gallon barrel or whatever.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeah, like a five gallon bucky. You get a home
depot or something like that, and they come with lids
and stuff by you get an outdoor world or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And how much sawdust are you putting in there?
Speaker 5 (01:17):
About two to three cups per use?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And is that? Does that stop up my piss? Yes?
Speaker 6 (01:24):
That and whatever else you do and so and that's
and everybody uses it, yes, everybody.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
That's camping with you. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I remember
back in the eighties we used to dig a hole
behind a tree and that's how we had to do it.
But now we got this, and it's much better.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh, y'all fancy, And the every everything goes in there,
sissy duty and toilet.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Paper, everything, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And how long do you and then and then you
bring it home? What do you do with it when
you get home?
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Well, you put it in your trash can and throw
it away because it's in a plastic bag, I mean,
tie it up and snow smells. No, nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
No way.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Aren't you not supposed to do that? You're not supposed
to put human waste in the garbage like a diaper.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I don't know. We've been doing it for years. I've
never heard of that.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I think you're fine.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, I got the dip the diaper. Genie used to
pack it full and then bag it up and throw
in the track.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
But that's not just loose stool.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
But he says it's in a bag. It's in like
a self contained little bag.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
But I wouldn't the whole wouldn't the whole idea behind
composting be so that you're not just throwing it in
the trash? Like doesn't that defeat?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
So what do you want to put it in your garden?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Like I understand. I understand that you may not have
a running toilet so that you're just crapping in the bucket.
I get that, But I would I would assume that
composting is so that you don't flush it into the
public system, or that you don't throw it into like
the garbage area. Like I feel like that goes against composting.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
No, well maybe, yeah, I guess it would. But for
camping no, but at home, I see what you're saying. Yeah,
that does go against what that is. Yeah, but campin
that's something totally different.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I guess yeah, no, no, And again I understand for
it's a it is a to me, that's not composting.
I mean, I understand it maybe a composting toilet, but
you're just you're really just using it for ease, with
the idea of throwing it out when you get home.
But like people who hey, thank you sir, people who
compost food, it's not like they compost the food and
(03:36):
then throw it in the garbage.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
They use it for things in the garden.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, in the garden, for the grass whatever. I don't
know what you use it for.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It's gross, yes, So putting it in the garbage like
a diaper does against compost feat the purpose slightly, because
if you have a compost of or a biodegradeable bag,
you could argue maybe that in a landfill this is
a lot better than a diaper. But what he explained
is so different than my knowledge, which is mostly kind
(04:06):
of informed by Todd Glass. But I thought he told
us three different things that are that are maybe just
when it's for in a home versus a camping setting.
Why there are, in my mind, my mind's stark differences.
One didn't he say the bulle itself is divided, so
(04:27):
you have to angle yourself so that there's a one
in a two side to the to the toilet. Todd
told us that I believe so because he then said.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Wait, so I got to figure out, well, I should
be able to tell by the by the staining which
one goes where. But I have to I have to,
like like I'm dropping a bomb somewhere. Yes, I gotta
move myself around on the on the seat so I
know where where I'm plunkin.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So that's one O two. Didn't he say the home
he stayed in wanted to keep the bowl contents contaminant free,
so he had to put used toilet paper in a
separate bin to the side of the toilet. Yes, so
you can't just throw that in there?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Also, no, No, so he definitely said there was a separate
bin for toilet paper, which he said is the most disturbing. No,
you know what's the most disturbing, A freaking log hanging
on to the side of that bowl. For dear life.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
At three? Didn't he say the homeowners would then dig
holes and bury this material.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I don't know what the I don't know what the
end result was. I bet I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I feel like they were then returning it to the soil.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
God flush it, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So that's I was a little more committed.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I won't compost food. You think I'm going to compost this?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Well, they give your children's children.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Thought, it wasn't Where am I going, Kristen? These can't
all be people who compost their crap? Oh hi, elliot
in the morning?
Speaker 7 (06:14):
More is this me?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Who's this?
Speaker 7 (06:18):
This is Joe from Cascade, Maryland.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Do you compost your your bathroom?
Speaker 7 (06:26):
When I was twelve years old, stayed with my aunt
and uncle up in Michigan, and they had a compost toilet.
They only used a windmill of solar panels for energy.
They're like old school hippies.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So what did you so like? Did you like when
you had to go to the bathroom? What'd you do?
Speaker 7 (06:48):
It was this little room they had in this shack
that we stayed in up there, and there was a
blanket for a curtain, and uh, it was just this big,
weird bob and it had a little crank wheel on
the bottom like a hand turn. And we had to
use peat moths. There was a bag of peet moths
(07:09):
next to the toilet and we would put the peat
moss on after we got done, and then we would
use the hand crank wheel to roll it over to
the I guess there was a big pile underneath. There
a big hole for it.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh my goodness, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
And they would use it for their pot garden. They
grew a lot of vegetables and different stuff, but they
swore it threw the best spot.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
All right, very good, thank you, sir, thank you. If
somebody told me these cucumbers are from our garden and
I was like, oh, that's awesome, they were like, oh
you know what, you know what made Like that's a
big cucumber. Oh yeah, we use all of our feces
on it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You don't blink at manure for fertilizer.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Because I'm not talking to the guy who made the
maneuver the cow. So that's the that's what the toilet
looks like.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
It can look like that. Say you're in diverter. Now,
certain body types would struggle with this.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's just it's.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Is that what you meant? But they made great, great
fertilizer for cucumbers.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Actually, I was thinking a very petite person could have
problems getting over the number two it's where the salads
go right and still being able to angle properly, properly
for the urine drain. Yeah, build up on quads because
(08:53):
this one is very distinct. And you told me that
you'd probably be able to tell it what with the staining.
But then there's there's some where it's it's not separated
that much, and you have to really.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
What goes under it though, Like what is that going into?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Is it just like a bucket? Look at those are
straps to help you carry it?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
God damn what.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
It's heavy.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
If I saw that in someone's house, I would be like,
you know what, this is going to be a great weekend.
But I just had to change your heart.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I'm going to an hotel.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Hotel, I'm a bonvoy member.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
But do you see this one has the too little
where did it go? It's got two little holes for
liquid and then two little holes for liquid. Well, you
don't need something that will fit a turd, so this doesn't.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Oh, I see what you mean. I thought you met
one was for boy sissy, once for girls sister.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
No, no, no, no. And when you talk about anatomy,
actually I could see.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Look inside that, look inside.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
That this process I feel like I didn't consent. Would
be wouldn't be more difficult for a female?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
No that one?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
No? No, just maybe in general, because there is some
aiming required.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I just well, yeah, Also it's going in the same place.
Who cares?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
No, No, these these are going to drain into some
sort of basin, oh for for liquids. And then this
is going.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I'm not I'm not making that dime sized hole.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Into your garden.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
No, no offense, Diane, but you're not especially And again
Jackie and I keep the door closed. But at the
end there's a that's not going in the that's not
going in the hole. That's that's like, that's like you
know what that is. That's like as an orca to
blow into a small hole.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So this here too, well they had this. This one
shows you you can stall a fan.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That one, This one I at least believe was used.
Look at it dirty, look at it.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh god, it's the plywood that makes it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
No, the plywood. Look at the bowl. That's like looking
at somebody that's smiling and going like, oh, I can
tell you drink coffee and smoke. Look at the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Who makes the who makes the white strips for this thing.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Why would you make the toilet white? Also that one?
How do you get the solids in that hole?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I think you have to remove the cap when you
have to go the.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Cap Wait, I had to push it down. I don't
even like like on the on the garbage where you
got to push it in.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Sorry, something something came up. I can't come this weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
And then you know to empty the solid tank when
it's difficult to turn the crank. Oh she full? No smell,
no smell?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Oh okay, all right, elliot doesn't smell either.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I have five gallons of crap that not even fresh,
that have been in this room. But no smell. No smell.
If you know why, because the whole house smells like it.
So when you don't go in there and go, oh
the bathroom smell, the whole ethen house stinks.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
If you've ever used a dry toilet before, you know
sewage smell as the result of liquid and solad being mixed.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's how you get a rash. That's what they always
tell you. That's true. But either either babies or an
adult if I mean if you, if you, if you
make an accident in your pants, do not have any
sissy come out, because that's what gives you the birds.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Okay, they admit if you do, if you plunge your
head into the bowl, you can smell it. No, will
smell something best described as earthy, but it won't be
the poop smell.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, well, why are these people outright lying?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Tell me? You mean to tell me. If I go
into the bathroom and I crap in my hands, I
don't get any urine in it. But I crap in
my hands and I walk in and I place it
directly under Diane's nose. But well, first I did put
that that blindfold daughter, and I put it right under
her nose. She's gonna go, oh, did you take me outside?
(13:29):
It's very earthly?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh god? Is it mult season already?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
No, it would be like did you go to bed
with an itchy butt?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Why do you have a pile of duty in your hand?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Not sure if we can be so quick to assume that.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
With that b herb.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
So you don't believe this right now?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
No, they're trying to sell a product.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
The only way smells is if urine hits it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You can put all the butterflies you want on your website.
You're not fooling meat.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Where am I going?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Every every composting toilet website and blog? A lot of
these people have blogs say there is no foul odor.
Absolutely whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay, are you guys gonna be upset during the break?
I am going into the bathroom and I'm crapping on
a hand towel. But is it gone?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Is it gonna?
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Bee?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Did the restaurant bring mushrooms solid enough?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
You know we need a good example.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'll use sawdust to form it.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Now you're throwing in Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I bet it still smells over the saw dust. Fine. Three,
Hi Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Commertime, picnic over Elliott's out.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Everyone enjoy absolutely, Hi Elliott the morning. Hello, Yeah, Hi,
who's this?
Speaker 8 (15:16):
This this Heather from Springfield?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yes, and do you compost your bathroom?
Speaker 8 (15:22):
Not my house, but my husband and I have a
boat that we keep an Annapolis and we have a
composting toilet that we've had for about a year.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Now, have you emptied it?
Speaker 8 (15:33):
I have not. I make him do it.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay, But where do you empty it? Oh? Right into
the bay?
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Oh no, no, although you can do that with the
pea bottle because it separates the pea and the poof basically,
and the so he takes it, he takes out the
like the poop part of it, and he puts it
into a trash bag, like one of your other callers said,
and you throw that away. But it honestly truly I
(16:00):
when he said to me that he wanted to get this,
and I was like, we're on a boat, which is
super small.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You're getting you're getting ready to lie?
Speaker 8 (16:08):
I s where to God? I swear to God, we
had a regular toilet before, and walking into the boat
before with like just the regular pipes and everything, and
the holding tank there, we could tell after like a
long weekend you'd get back into the boat and be like,
oh man, we need to empty the holding tank. Now
we can go easily three months without having to empty
(16:32):
it at all.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Log I can't wait till August.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Where to God as well, obviously depends on how much
you're actually going. But we use coconut husks. I heard
some people you can use the variety of things, but
we use coconut husks. As were like, well, not to
wipe with, no, to put it on that, to put.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It in the to mix it up with that is
the hippiest thing I've heard all day.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's so God, I know.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
And I have to tell you when my husband said
to me that he wanted to put this in our boat,
I was like, you're out of your ever loving mind
because who wants to do that, and especially you were
talking about the females. Like I was really worried about
how this works out for girls. And so when we
first got it again, I think we've had a little
over a year, and I would only pee in it
(17:21):
for like the first few months, and then I had
to go into like an actual you know, building to
go number two. And finally I didn't have a choice
one time and regular toilet, I swear to God, And
but I tell what you do have to do as
a female. You do have to try to like pee
(17:42):
first before you boop, and like you open up the
little like the hole that it goes.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Into, right, because at that you do that that whale
blowhole thing.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Maybe some people do. Yeah, it is definitely it's easier
than you would anticipate it to be, especially as a female.
Like I was really really not looking forward to it.
And I said to him, if it's not working, then
I we're getting back the other one, But we got
rid of our holding tank, and you have and actually
(18:25):
we've had guests come over and have no problems using
it either.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
So right, no, but have you have you ridden home
with them to hear them mock you and laugh at you.
I have not, so anyway, So the whole reason I
bring this up, Thank you, ma'am, Thank you with your
three months of filth. So these two people, can you
(18:50):
see them?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, Diana Scott?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
They they so they were they were staying at a
place like like they did not their house, but they
were staying somewhere and I can't remember how long they
were there. They were there for a while, but when
they left, it was composting, so they would have the
barrels of piss and duty.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Waiting to be buried or what have you.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
They left behind one hundred and fifty eight barrels of
human way.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
What were they running this place? Yeah? Oh you said, staying?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, well and also stayed there, but yeah, but they
left behind one hundred and fifty eight barrels of human waste.
Hey see you guys, time's up.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
So had the place gone bankrupt or something? They just
fled or.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
No, no, no, they were going back home, like they
were staying there for I don't remember how long, Like
they were working there, just them. Yeah, look here, look
at the picture. That's all their barrels of crap.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
And I see a lot of barrels there. Yeah, they
may want to go to a doctor.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
No smell though, No, I mean, I can't even tell
I got one hundred and fifty eight barrels of ass.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
It's earthy tank tank rights. The smell I had come
out of my ass yesterday and I couldn't stay in
the room. No way, this don't smell like s Kristen Kristen.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Hi Elliott. In the morning, I.
Speaker 9 (20:19):
Used an accomplished toilet for like a school trip and
then so really it's just like a normal toilet, but
there's no there's no water, it's just like a hole.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You know what what school son? How old are you, sir?
Speaker 9 (20:33):
I'm in an environmental center. So we went to a
CICAB foundation. They're like all about like the ecosystem everything,
so they have like complishing toilets.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
And how did anybody did anybody like? What what what
grade are you in right now? I'm in I'm in
ninth grade right when? How what grade were you in?
When you when you went to the composting toilet this
year's ninth grade. Oh, okay, did you use the toilet?
Speaker 9 (21:02):
Yeah? It doesn't snow about it. It's just like in there.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, no, it's it's stings, coconut husk. Did you go
number one or did you go number two?
Speaker 9 (21:15):
I mean both?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
You know, got a boy? You know what? Good on you?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (21:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Because no, let me tell you son, let me tell
you why. Elliott's proud of you. No, no, no, because
a lot of and you. I'm sure you have friends
like this who won't go, won't make number two at school.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'm shocked. I used to do an old.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Trip to it all the time. Field trip's even better.
You don't have to worry. Is like, everybody doesn't walk
in and see you, just your other dorky friends that
are going to the Earth Center.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
The toilet.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Hey are you there?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
What?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah? Turn the radio down, turn the radio down. No, no,
you're fine. So when you went in there was like,
were you freaked out?
Speaker 9 (21:57):
I mean no, they explained it to us. They're like,
we don't use them tools to us, like a compost,
and it was like, yes, it's definitely a new experience.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
You know, were you the only were you the only
one that went or did was everybody like, oh dude,
we got to try this.
Speaker 9 (22:12):
No, so I mean you have to use a restroom,
you know sometimes so most people went. My brother went
to he's in the car.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
He's just recording, I guess, recorded me in the bathroom.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well good, not recording in the bathroom, he's recording the call.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And what did they did they tell you? What did
they do with your duty? Afterwards?
Speaker 9 (22:37):
They just use this like whatever they need, you know,
I don't know, decomposed.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I got you, I got you. Hey, did you like
it enough where you tried to convince your your old
man like, let's do this at the house.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
I mean it's okay, but I didn't remember water one's better.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I'm with you. You think your mom would go
for it?
Speaker 9 (22:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
No, proably not. Well she probably don't even poop. All right,
Very good, very good, Thank you son?
Speaker 7 (23:05):
The problem man?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Okay, do you have to go yet?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Say again? Oh, I can always go, but I'm going
to bring it in on a hand towel. Well, think
about yan, what are you shaking your head for? You
won't even know what.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
If he goes in the cups of a hula girls, spra,
isn't that coconut?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
No? No, But is the problem? You don't want to
see it, because I'll go in a cup.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I don't want to see it. I don't want to
smell it. I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Stop it because it doesn't smell. Okay, it smells earthy.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Or soily, not so ill, soily.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I mean, we can save time, and I could just
give you my underwear to smell. But that's mixed with
urine and blood.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Oh my god, synthetic fibers unless do not, you don't
wear them.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Maybe I'm wearing compostable underwear.
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