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October 17, 2024 32 mins
Standing desks, CTS, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can you see if Haley's out there is dustin out
there now? Not in yet? No kidding, Hi, Haley, how
are you good morning? How are you good? Good? Good good?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I have a question for you, if you don't mind
the so the other by the way, you look very
foolish today.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Casey and I are matching the the.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
So earlier and I hadn't checked my phone, so I apologize.
Oh yes, earlier though, when we were talking about if
there if you're out of toilet paper on a flu
graye diarrhea and.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
You are in a bathroom and there is no.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Toilet paper, you texted my phone splashy splashy splash.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh yeah, because you just said it and it was hilarious.
Oh I thought you had done it.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Oh we thought that was like you were saying, oh yeah,
definitely have done that.

Speaker 6 (00:59):
God no, oh god no no, Well this is awkward
for you. Kristen didn't admit.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Oh yeah, Kristen, Christy, can you come in here. This
will just be easier.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Kristen tried to explain how she uses the the automatic flusher.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
It's a bidet in trying to defend you, Haley. Yeah,
she was like, oh, Haley, no, don't awe.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
She She was like, oh, Hailey definitely has splashed herself.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
No, I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, Christ did it.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I said, I don't know, but we do talk about poopol.
Oh god, that's fair, I said, maybe she has, because
I've used my underwear before in a sock.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
What was the thing you were talking about with the flusher?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Oh yeah, so sometimes like a courtesy flush to yourself,
you know, Tyler, you lean back and it like goes
it like will automatically flush on its.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Own, right, Because I said, I really understand.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
No, no, I get.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
That, I understand the courtesy, but why you were talking
about it like it's a bidet.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, it's like a cleaner butt.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
How far down is I've never used a bidet, so
I just assume when you get the extra splash up
on the tush, that's like what a bidet is.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, not really, no, No, it's more of a stream.
What it's a stream, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
I've never used on but I think so.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, it's like, no, it's like a hose.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
That sounds scary the.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
No no, no, no not at all, not at all.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
It's not going to shoot you off of it.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I feel like you used one?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, really, How am I the only one that's used
a bedet?

Speaker 5 (02:42):
I mean I've been in bathrooms with them before, but
I've never I mean I've turned it on and it
looks it does look more like like just like a faucet.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
The yeah, oh wait, are you talking about one of
those old school ones though? Yeah, where you have to
like sit facing like cartman style.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I guess so.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
But then they have like.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Intimidating Maybe she's thinking of like the fancy or toilets
where you've got like all these different controls and you
can have like a like a spray.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I've never used one of those that I believe we
don't have now.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Don'ts Tuba days?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
But I'm too scared to use them.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, they can't be they can't be a little intimidating.
All right, my apologies?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Hell all good slash slash.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Say again, dog? Did he just get here? I don't
need him?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
I'm glad to clear that up. Yeah, got it awkward?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Very well, it already was, because Christian's like, oh, definitely,
it's seed.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Absolutely. She walked that dog back. Now.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
The other employee is market president Aaron Hyland.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I thought of him. Yesterday.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Are our stand up desks at work as popular as
they used to be?

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Or was it?

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Was it like a fleeting sort of thing where everybody
wanted one for a while, they got them, and then
they used them for a little bit and then they
kind of bailed.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I don't know now.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Remember Aaron got his because he got that butt left
so he didn't want to sit none even it. Yeah,
but a lot of people have them for health reasons, right.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Yeah, it's just it's standing is healthier for you than
just sitting all day.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
But are they as frequently used as they used to be?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Like it was it a fad? Or do they still exist?
They still exist?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (04:35):
Are they being sold at the same amount as they
were at some point?

Speaker 8 (04:39):
No?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Oh they're not, no way the I mean they were.
They were.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
They were huge, big for a while. But that means
a lot of offices may.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Still have them. Ye, yeah, No, it's a one time.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Purchase, aren't they dust? They can convert, there's not just
raise or lower.

Speaker 8 (04:53):
Right?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Are they all like that?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Or I thought that there were. I thought that they
became that. I thought the original ones were like stand
up and then it became like I don't want to say, hydraulic,
but ones that you could raise and lower.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Because there was a whole thing yesterday.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
It made me think of Aaron Hyland that said, they are, oh,
it's actually bad for your health.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
The standing desk.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Standing is actually now is sitting great for you?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
No?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
No, but standing may actually be worse than sitting. Really,
because they said if you stand for more than two hours,
it's bad for you. So people will have these stand
up desk and they stand at their desk for a
couple hours and they're working. Then they go to lunch
and they come back and they're standing again and they're working.

(05:44):
They said it's very bad for you circulation wise. They
talk about DVT, that deep vein thrombosa stuff. Yeah, but
that it's really unhealthy for you. That you're better off.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Say good.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
I was gonna say, no, I'm looking at a buyer's
guy here, but you're telling me don't worry about buying one.
You're better off sitting, yes, Or do you do a hybrid?
Do you want one of these convertible stand up desks
so you can lower it and raise it as your

(06:19):
day goes on.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
No, they'll tell you what you're better off doing.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I mean, yeah, if you want to stand there for
fifteen minutes, but you're not, but then you're not getting
the benefits of not sitting, right, they.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Said, what you're the way ultimately you should do sit.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
At your desk like normal.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Right, This is doctors.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
This isn't me, And I know it sounds counterintuitive, and
people go.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
You don't know, you're fat and lazy.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
The you sit at your desk, but you force yourself
to get up and walk around periodically.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
What about if you're on to bring up Haley again
on some sort of exercise.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Ball, you look ridiculous. I will say this though she's
got straight back posture.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh yeah, no, it's great. But I don't I don't
know what they would say about that. But yes, Haley
sits on on that.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
So it looks like.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
These desks are customizable, but it doesn't appear that it's
meant to be changed multiple times during a work day.
I guess you set it to the height you wanted
at and that's your desk for a while.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh yeah, oh that I believe. Like I thought you
could like move them down.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
I thought they were it's where it's like it's easy
it's just that lever.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
And then what.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Am I going to line too? Hi? Ellie in the morning, Elliott, Yes.

Speaker 9 (07:47):
Sir, it's Larry.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
How you doing, sir, Larry? I am doing fantastic. Thank you.
What can I do for you?

Speaker 7 (07:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
So?

Speaker 10 (07:56):
I worked for a department defense. I install these desks
pretty much daily for the government, and the government is
now purchasing these for pretty much everybody, and pretty much
anybody with a reasonable accommodation can also get one as well.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
And it's just.

Speaker 10 (08:14):
Customizable to any height that you need. But the funny
thing is they want to stand up to work, but
then they ask for a tall.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
Stool to sit in.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yea, so wait so but they can't so the ones
that you're getting.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So when you when you said they're customizable, you mean
you can you can set them for whatever. Like the
people selling desk don't know if they're selling it to
five seven meters or six you know, six foot?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
How tall is Errand is he six feet tall? Sure? Okay, yeah, yeah,
they don't know that. But you set that height and
then you just leave it there.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
You're not talking about the ones that go up and down,
well yeah, up and down yep.

Speaker 10 (08:54):
With the magic of a button. And but they used
to have manual ones with hydraulics, and then so they
phase those out and now they're going to all the
motorized desk.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Now, and you said you're putting these in every single day.

Speaker 10 (09:09):
Pretty much, yes, yeah, reasonable accommodations. So anybody with a
doctor's note with that works for the federal government can
get one of these desks as long as they have
the doctor's debt. They bring it in, present it, then
they get on the list and then the government.

Speaker 11 (09:23):
Will pay for it.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
And you said this over at DoD.

Speaker 8 (09:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Wow, I will say this. I love I love the
idea of like your desk being like a high top.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
And having a stool.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh yeah, I'm not standing, are you kidding?

Speaker 3 (09:44):
I'm healthy like Fridays.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, but that instead of being low like you're up high.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I love the idea of that. That's awesome.

Speaker 10 (09:55):
Yeah, but the government's very accommodating for whatever the government
people need, they'll get pretty much as well as you
have a doctor's note.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Gotcha, gotcha, appreciate it, Thank you, my friend.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
Yes, Now this desk that wirecutter is recommending is better
for shorter people, thank you, because you can set it
around three inches lower than competing desks, which this came
up yesterday off air. Somebody said to me, well, why
don't you just stand? When I was saying that I
was in I said that, you said that, But then

(10:25):
there are a lot of messages when you had the
studio designed, right, did you set the console lower than
the standard height? I don't think so, because I was
standing here and the bend on my wrist to use
the mouse and the keyboard is so bad in that, like,

(10:49):
it's not a natural feel. I would have carpal tunnel
within a week if I stood the whole time.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Funny it is to me perfect.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, we know you customize everything else in the studio.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
Sure they didn't measure you sitting in your stool to
decide on the height of this console. No, because you'll
look very natural standing.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, so it's definitely lower than upstairs.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Was the that I don't know? Yeah, that I don't know.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
But you see him talking about you see the severe
angle I have to cock my hand up at.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
I could even write beautifully both standing here. Yeah, wor's
totally fine.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Maybe they did just building and go well, he's a
little shorter, not gonna knock.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
An inch or two off of it, but don't stand
for more than two hours a day.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh, don't you worry, don't you worry?

Speaker 6 (11:44):
Great back in his seat, he was reaching for his
stool before I even said that.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Where am I going? Line one? Hi, Ellie in the morning. Heck, yes, sir,
who is this.

Speaker 9 (12:00):
This dirt?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
What's going on? Dude?

Speaker 9 (12:03):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Man?

Speaker 9 (12:04):
I work from home, and uh I had a spinal
surgery like a year a little bit over a year
ago or something right like. Prior to it, I was
struggling to be able to sit down for a long
time and even after, like I have like some nerve
issues now from it, like in my leg, so sitting
too long bothers it, but so of standing too long.

(12:24):
So I ended up getting like one of these hydraulic
ones that like I can pre save like three different
heights in it, right, and like just press a button
and go like either just standing, sitting or somewhere in
the middle, and so I can like change my position
throughout the day. I really love that, honestly.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
The I mean, I listen, I get that for somebody
who had spinal surgery and like can't be in one
spot too long.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I think it helps.

Speaker 9 (12:49):
I think it helps with my add Like I changed
my position and like kind of refocus a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Hey, do you hold on one sec?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
There's a there's some kind of unbelievable that's getting ready
to take place.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
No, y'all stood up? Why can't I? Yeah, this is
lower than the other studio was.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I feel like it's perfectly now.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
It's now.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
It's weirdo for years, a couple of years. But remember
how I used to stand up quite a lot upstairs.
And do you notice like Diane's standing right now? She
looks like a giant. She does, honestly she does stupid
low con Yeah, I used to stand up a lot upstairs.
I never stand down here because of this. It's too low.

(13:34):
That's why. All right, I figured it out. Next mystery?
Who are those from?

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Hey? So wait?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
So back to you? Back to you? How often? Like
the ad D part of it is pretty interesting to me?
How often? How often are you switching it?

Speaker 9 (13:57):
It really depends on my day and and uh like
how my backs feeling. But I would say probably average
like three to four times.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
A day maybe, And when you change.

Speaker 9 (14:10):
I'll stay in one position for like a couple hours
and then be like, all right, I'm gonna stand for
a while.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
And you know the part that seems like it would
be hard to do, and maybe maybe it's just in
my head. Typing while standing up seems like it would
be hard, but I've never I've never typed while standing out.

Speaker 9 (14:27):
I thought it would be. I had I had a
cheap like desktop riser that like just went on my
desk and like you manually like moved up and down
with like it had some kind of draw its like
you press them in and like pull it up. And
it broke after a while, and I hated that one.
And then I got like the full desk, so it's
like a full flat top and then it has like
a desk rider or a monitor riser in the back,

(14:49):
and it has like the little keyboard tray right, and
I'm telling you what it's like. It's so comfortable, especially
because like you can this thing. I mean I could,
Diane could could could feel short next to it if
I put it all the way up.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Okay, well I'm now I'm all right.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
No, I appreciate it, thank you, thank you, and I'm
glad it works on your back.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
What is it? Who's this?

Speaker 6 (15:14):
That's a katie, you're a current situation and she's showing
the butt how it goes up in electronically.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's funny.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I've never seen one of them in action. But what
do you do about like hers isn't going up and
down that far?

Speaker 6 (15:29):
Well maybe she's not going to the tippy top?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I gotcha, because what would you do about a chair?
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
But if you're standing, you don't know because this one
it's just going up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I was like, well, that seems ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
A lot of people are saying, there's are electronic. Oh
we're not manual.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Got a lot of people have them.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
Hey whatever, those contractors can charge more if they're electronic
versus hand crank.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I'd love one. No, who am I kidding?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
No?

Speaker 6 (16:00):
You don't stand in here? Yeah, a studio that was
built for you to stand it.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
No, it wasn't built to stand in but if I
want to stand, it is built for my high It
is perfect.

Speaker 9 (16:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
And by the way, well never mind where am I going?
Line three? Hi Jelly in the morning, Hey elliot, how
are you? Hey? I'm doing great? Thank you? What can
I do for you?

Speaker 11 (16:25):
Hey, so I have used both the what they call
a vera desk, at least what we had for I
work in the federal government, and that was the manual
one with a lever. Those things kind of sucked because
it just basically raised your monitor. But now I have
the full electronic desk.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
And then the game tinger is it? Really it is?

Speaker 9 (16:44):
You can?

Speaker 11 (16:45):
I mean it took a little getting used to, like
you said, typing.

Speaker 9 (16:48):
So if I'm.

Speaker 11 (16:49):
Typing out something kind of long, like a longer document,
I still prefer to sit. But yeah, but I got
to say, like two or three times a day if
I don't remember to put my chair to the side
of me, and I'm like in the zone standing up
and then I turn around to like use the restroom
or something, I just crushed myself on the chair. The
you know what else is great for?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
What's that.

Speaker 11 (17:13):
Frozen shoulder?

Speaker 6 (17:14):
The oh you know what I was going to ask, Yes,
tom oh, So for these some of these electronic desks, not,
Katie's right. You got the entry model. You can have
it so the desk can be shared and there's numbers
or the memory numbers.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, right, that's what the ADHD guy has.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
But Katie's desk. Didn't know Katie's well, Katie's his bootleg.
What was the call of sharing his desk?

Speaker 1 (17:40):
No? No, no, no, that sounds like it's just his, Yeah,
just his. I do like that. I do like the
settings though.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
By the way, you brought up something, sir, do you
know anybody that's had carpal tunnel in the last twenty years?

Speaker 9 (17:53):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (17:53):
My uh, one of my previous bosses had surgery for
it while I was working.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
For in the last twenty years.

Speaker 11 (18:01):
In the last twenty years. This is like three years ago.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Oh okay, why do you say twenty years? I feel
like carporton every No, because thank you sir. Everybody like that.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Will you please sit down?

Speaker 6 (18:15):
So now we're not allowed to stand?

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well, your look how awkward you are?

Speaker 6 (18:19):
The risking circulatory No, no word because of the risk bend.
How hasn't carpal tunnel been eradicated?

Speaker 8 (18:28):
No?

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Yes, I feel like there's plenty of people other than
three years ago. We were like wristbands for it or
like like braces for it.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Too, because that's a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
When's the last time you saw anybody who had carpal
tunnel surgery?

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Saw so watched them in their stages of convalescence.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
What you mean, no, but like nobody here is carpole
tunnel that we that you know have Have you asked anybody.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Wouldn't they come in with bandaged up in everything? Carpal
tunnel to me was completely eradicated. I don't remember when
it took off. Oh I do when they started taking
all the keyboards and separating them off to the side,
and then like the little ball roller.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
Is the focus on ergonomics play a part in us
not hearing as much about it.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Probably okay, but million cases?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Zero chance of that three million a year in the
US or around the world US because around the world
is not as ergonomic.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
This says, if you just have additional supplemental vitamin D,
it positively impacts the chances.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Of getting it or correcting it.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
Correcting it. There was a found in most patients they
had low vitamin D levels.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Here you go, everybody and their mother was getting carpal
tunnel syndrome. Everybody was having carpal tunnel surgery. In the
last twenty years. I don't feel like you've ever heard
of one case. I agree.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
There was a time where you almost felt like every
time you sat down the computer, you were risking your head.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Oh it was like standing in front of the microwave. No,
but you're right. Oh, you don't type too much.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
But there's stuff we do every day that we don't
think of as being so dangerous than it is on
the phone. I was gonna say, like driving your car.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh, let's stop it.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
Oh they still hand massagers for prevention.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
I bet that feels good.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Or are these like stashlight?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Oh yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Put your hand in here.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Oh no, you're supposed to rest this on your neck.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Okay, then why is it shaped that way?

Speaker 6 (20:37):
It's more of a wand it's great for my wrist
and my glitterist.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Look at that.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
Have you ever seen anybody at their desk with that?
The they were drying their nails.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Colleen Whirling.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
Elliott I thought this break was about Haley and Aaron
Haley's one.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
That's what Kristen says.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
No, Kristen said, it's all glitterist. Haley said, no, it's wrist.
Where am I going? Line three vibrating gloves? Look at
that for carpal tunnel.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Nobody has carpal tunnel anymore. I like gloves. Line three,
Hi Elliet the morning.

Speaker 9 (21:28):
Lots of people have carpal tunnel.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Wait, I'm sorry, say again.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
I said lots of people have carpal tunnel. I have
in both wrists, and I also have cubical tunnel, which
is pretty much carpal tunnel in your elbows.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
You had elbow surgery? Oh yeah, Hey, can I ask
you something? Please don't be offended. I'm wearing new headphones
and they're very tight on my head, so everything is muffled.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
What is what is your name? Are who.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
Like Twinkle Twinkle Little Star?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Star? Okay, so you're a woman. Okay, Yes, what can
I do for.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
I can't hear these things are so military basic and
I'd like to try to picture who I'm talking to.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Anyway, Yes, Star, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
And I've been listening to you all morning. Well I
was just telling you, like, my best friend just had
both of her wrists done for carpal tunnel. Really, I've had,
you know, just like last month, and.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
You had How did you get carpal tunnel in your elbows?

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Well, it's cubical tunnel and it's all the same kind
of nerve. I played the piano crochet a love just
the concept motion repetitive motions.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I do it too, my thir You're going to say
it is from taking and moving the cigarette to your
lips and then down because I should get in line.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
No, no, no, you're safe there, but stay there. I
definitely didn't get it from the same thing. But my
best friend, she's a hairdresser, right, so she got carpal
tunnel from blow drying. You know, just that motion with
your wrists and stuff. So it's a very common thing.

(23:18):
And like you after, yes, it is eradicated. I'm sure
there's no it's funny, all right, But I mean the
people you see those wrists bandages, you know, the support bracelets,
they probably just had surgery. You gotta wear it for
like two weeks after surgery, Okay, but I.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Don't see anybody start thank you, thank you man. When's
the last time you saw somebody walking around with a
brace on their hand?

Speaker 6 (23:43):
But how terrible would that be for a stylist or hairdresser?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah? Out of work? Yeah, it's way too long for
a week. No, she just said you. They have to
wear them for a week.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Yeah, but that doesn't mean you're fully recuperated. You probably
a physical therapy, right for carpal tunnel.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yes, o, Billy says, I think I have it on
both my hands. They both go numb if I hold
something for longer than a few minutes. God, No, I
don't think you need.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
What's wrong now, is it you? Tommy Hurts?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I just did what your standing for the you don't need.
Why would you need physical therapy for carporal tunnel.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
It's like how you do physical therapy for anything. It's
a it's a step in order for you to help
avoid surgery. No, but oh look how good myrists are.
You already had surgery. If you have carpal tunnel, you
have surgery.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Not always.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
I still have those therapy after surgery. Isn't that we
talked about Criter in New your place?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Mans?

Speaker 6 (24:45):
You tell me he didn't have physical therapy.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
He's been in physical therapy every single day for the
last thirty five years.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Where am I going? Kristen line seven?

Speaker 9 (24:54):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Elliot in the morning.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Hey, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Hey, good, who's that?

Speaker 8 (25:00):
Jeffery's from Port Tobacco, Maryland.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Hey what's going on? Dude?

Speaker 6 (25:04):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (25:05):
Man? I just I'm thirty eight and I got diagnosed
last year with it in both my varsts.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
What's that? Oh, carb.

Speaker 8 (25:12):
Yeah, carpool just and the test the way they do it,
I don't know if you know they test you for it.
They literally pricked your hand and all the way up
to your elbow because I was having dumbness from my
elbow all the way down to my fingertips. And but yeah,
doing the test was probably the worst, you know, getting
pricked with the needle.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Wait, So I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I've never had carpoo tunnel, so I don't know what
the I don't why does it hurt all the way
up to your to your elbows?

Speaker 8 (25:36):
So I was, well, what it was? It was going
numb all the way to my elvew for some reason,
and it's just because of the blockage from the carvel tunnel.
It was shooting you know, up through the nerves up
to my elbow for some reason. So everybody's case is different,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Right, how bad is the surgery to.

Speaker 8 (25:51):
Be honestly, I didn't get it done, and a lot
of people say not to just to kind of you.
You just kind of deal with it, you know what
I mean, because for surgery is fifty fifty. But then
I hear all the stories where you know, it's not
that bad. So it's just it's one of those fifty
fifty deals of ink surgeries. What it sounds like?

Speaker 9 (26:06):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Sure, I gotcha. Hey, I appreciate it, Thank you, sir,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Did you know that?

Speaker 6 (26:12):
No, No, some fellow lupus oh sufferers chiming and saying
that they have it because of lupus. You never heard that?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
No, well I don't have it.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Oh, count yourself lucky.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
No I do. I do know, But I'm saying, like,
why would I have heard that?

Speaker 6 (26:35):
What did you tell us earlier, Diane, about boosting your
your well being by v by the time out of
your day to think of others?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Okay, you know what?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
And I'm not going to name any names, but i'll
tell you what. A week ago, well, I have a home.
A week ago there was somebody who reached out in
their fiance has been diagnosed with lupus, and asked if
I would be kind enough to get on the phone.
You didn't see me, and I did, and I spent

(27:08):
a good amount of time talking to her and had
a great conversation about lupis. But I didn't come running
in here looking for a pat on the back. I
do a lot of what are you doing now, saget, No,
I'm just no, I'm just showing, Diane, I do a
lot of volunteer work without without coming in here with
my waving a flat.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
I'm happy to hear that you were able to at
least chat with somebody.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
And I offered a lot of good insight.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
So none of your knowledge is outdated.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
I was very clear with the person that listen.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I've been a long time since you were treated for it.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I haven't touched a pill. Yeh, God knows how long.
But here's here's what I was told by my doctor.
And none of it was be careful of carpal tunnel,
Mark Rieter checking in.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
Oh, no physical therapy for the new yes, but also
the hip.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
What was I right?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I thought he was gonna say it's not every day,
but it's been every day for thirty five years.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
It's not been thirty five years. You haven't even known him.
How long I've known Crider for thirty five years?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
You haven't.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I guess not. No, I guess not where.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
And Billy wants to clarify his hands only go numb
when it's something like the steering wheel. Isn't some of
that job handled by the dash? Yeah? I feel like
that's kind of it's a shared responsibility.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Move your arms north a little bit and they'll kind
of rest there.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Let's slow down a little.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Also, how long are you going to stand?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (28:44):
My god, but you keep grabbing your abdomen like that.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Like you're in pain.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
It does not feel great. But I told you that
this is an ongoing problem. Do you think your internal
penis just went I don't have that, mom, Mom, I
don't know what time it's up these days.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Hi Elliott in the morning.

Speaker 12 (29:05):
Hey Elliott, I just walked out of a consultation for
Carporo Tunnel and you guys are talking about this and
I have a surgery schedule in December.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Now, Oh that's funny.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
He said it was eradicated.

Speaker 10 (29:17):
Seriously, what I'm saying, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Up until this moment, I don't know anybody that's had
carporal tunnel in twenty years.

Speaker 12 (29:26):
Mine is severe. I can't sleep, my hands are numb,
and I have to use keyboard a lot. So like
I'm it's taking a while to type emails and stuff.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Do you have one of those keyboards? What were they called?

Speaker 3 (29:38):
My buddy ergonomic.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
My buddy Dave Fox had one of those where like
and it was weird, like it was a keyboard, like
they broke it in half and you would separate them.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, it was very bizarre, very very bizarre.

Speaker 12 (29:51):
I've never used one. Maybe that's my problem. I just
thought they looked a little you know.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
No, it's very odd. It also seems like it would
be very hard to type on and listen. I know
that the fingers all go in this. Want to get
used to the I can't get used to these headphones. Oh,
were you.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Sorry about your surgery?

Speaker 8 (30:12):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Hey? Did they tell you? Did they tell you?

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Is it a painful surgery?

Speaker 12 (30:19):
You know, I've found out a lot about it recently,
but they they said that it's uh, it's two different
types of surgery. And the one I'm getting is laparoscopic,
and this guy most of the time he tries to
go in that way. It takes about twenty minutes. He said,
it's about three days of recovery time. And the other
option is if like maybe if my carporal tunnel area

(30:40):
is too tight, then then he has to do the open,
open risk surgery and that's more. But they won't know
that until they try the laproscopic piece.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
So I mean I'm going that route.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Good laparoscopic is usually they go in through like the groin,
though they probably won't do that for yourpiscopic.

Speaker 12 (30:58):
I'm not sure what the word is, but scopic you
know where they just make a little slit and stick up.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, a camera came in the right, I got I gotcha. Hey,
I hope it goes well. Sorry about your carporal tunnel.

Speaker 12 (31:12):
Thanks guys, smell my face.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
I had to be like salt in the compressed nerve
for him, as you're telling us it's no longer eradicated.
This is like said syphilis, right, it's done. I'm going
to be How would you know that you have it?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Just like he said, like people?

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Literally, I don't like numbness, numbna.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
No, if you get like pins and needles in your hand,
or pain in your in your wrist and radiating down
into your.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
Hands, swollen fingers maybe, Oh no, I thought that was salt.
Don't be so quick to blame the typeiness of your
ring on a big meal.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
It could be a CCS. That's going to be my thing. Hey, Elliott,
you're struggling with your ring, I got carpool,
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