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Remember we had talked to Adam.Adam used to work at Tailgate ninety eight
five in Colorado Springs and he hatedthe PD. Adam, I've been there,
buddy. His call spun out ofthose What was he calling about originally
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Hassward affirmation. That's right, that'sright. And he so he had he
had a horrible run in Colorado Springs. He was there for like less than
a year. He hated it,but he was a disc jockey there and
hated it. But then but hedid say he took everything that he learned
there and came back and started hisown like event company, like that he
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does on the weekend. Wait,here's Adam Adam. What's man? Hey,
how you doing, sir? Itis the best day in my life
thanks to you. How are youdoing, dude? I am doing great.
Thank you. So, anyway,I was talking to so, we
were talking to Adam yesterday and Iwas like, I just I don't listen.
Radio sucks. I get it.However, I didn't want his last
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experience to be horrible in Colorado Springs. And you're talking about maybe the business
of radio. Oh yes, yeah, yeah, no, this show's freaking
awesome, asked Ben and Reed,I advise everyone against that. Oh okay,
anyway, so I told Adam Iwant him to do nights, just
even for a night, just gethave one good experience, go on the
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air, have fun, go bea disc jockey and just have fun with
it. Now. The biggest surprisewas that Dustin actually called him. That
shocks me. Maybe that's why hedidn't get his taxes done. Anyway,
the anyway, Adam is going todo seven to midnight tonight on DC one
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O one, dude, that's great. I'm so excited for you. I'm
freaking out, man, and I'mready to go. I was sitting here
literally crassing my opening statement, asyou call it. So let's do this.
The wait, well, not fortonight. I don't want to know
what the opening statement is right now. I'll surprise us. Yeah no,
no, no, I'm just readyto rock. Let's get it. There
we go. Oh. I lovethe attitude. I love the attitude.
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So they went over it, theywent over everything with you. So from
seven to midnight tonight you'll be You'llbe doing the night show on DC one
oh one. I'm literally driving thetrain on my hometown legendary rock station.
Absolutely that's awesome. That's awesome.I'm very excited for you. I hope
don't be nervous. Honestly, you'renot auditioning for a job, you know
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what I mean. Just go inand have fun. Just have fun.
Remember how bad Colorado Springs was andjust no, no, you want to
go I'll be serious. You wantto go out having fun, So just
have fun tonight. Don't let it, don't let it all get You're gonna
be nervous. I get it.I'm nervous every day. But I just
I want you to have fun tonight. I really appreciate it. Man.
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I hope everybody has fun listening toit, because it's gonna be Look,
I'm either going to sink, I'mgonna swim. We're gonna find out together.
But either way, we're gonna rockout. It's gonna be a journey.
Let's get it. Let's that's notfun tonight. I love it.
I love it all right, Verygood, very good. So again,
Adam will be on doing seven tomidnight. Hey, how was your interaction
with the program director yesterday? Well, if that's all he really is,
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you guys have a really cool boss. I'm just gonna throw it out there.
Oh it's not. He was puttingon an act. All right,
very good, very good. Hewas super chill, good good, good,
good, Adam. I will Iwill turn. I will be listening
to you this evening. I can'twait. Thank you, sir. Tune
in. I can't wait either.Let's have fun there you go? Hey,
well are you? What are yougoing by? Just Adam party Luke.
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You see, you can call meparty Mike all day yesterday. Let's
go party louch. That's me allright, dude, have fun. I
look forward to listening. Thank you, Elliott, you're the best. Hey,
you gotta do. Talk to youlater. I love that. I'm
so excited for him. It's quitethe energy. Yeah no, it's great.
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But I don't want that to sortof deter those that would love a
job in this industry who maybe havea lower energy. There's a space for
everybody. Yeah, no, listen. I think it's great. I love
it. I hope he kills ittonight. I really do. I hope
he kills and Dustin did have nicethings to say about their interaction yesterday as
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well. Yeah he did. Ithink they kind of hit it off.
Yeah, good, good, that'sexciting. Now the other thing is this
are you addressing AB the oh?Is that the other thing? No?
Hey, Ab, good news badnews, good news. You still have
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to come in and push all thebuttons and everything bad news. You're not
talking party looches. Oh who's that? I don't know, some guy that
called an Elliott show. Anyway,maybe they become the new Read and Ben
could be in new duo in themaking loose all right. So the other
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thing, I want you to thinkback a little bit. I told you
that there was somebody and I can'tremember I knew who it was, but
it was somebody that we all knowthat was involved with and it was somebody
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in an open marriage. Oh wewow, yeah, went wrote into you
say again, yes they had.I had read the letter that I had
received there. The belief was,I'm trying to remember off the top of
my head, so I hope Idon't mess this up. The belief was
that they were in an open marriage. But there were some questions because remember
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then we started learning all about hownot every not every open marriage has the
same rules, right, And thenthere were some people that were like,
no, that guy's just cheating onhis wife. And then there were other
people, And I feel like Iwas defensive because I knew the person who
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was. I don't want to sayhaving an affair, because if if it's
somebody in an open marriage, you'renot having an affair with them, well,
then they're not having an affair,They're not in a relationship with anybody.
But who was who was hooking upwith the the the husband in the
open marriage? Right, So maybeI was being a little defensive. I
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don't know. Well, you werealso trying your hardest to like not exactly
who it was, because you said, and you believe you just reiterated it.
You said we had met the personor just knew of the person both.
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So we've met this person. Yes, yes, Now why are you
bringing it up again? Because,like Nick Cannon would do, it's time
to take the mask off, hehosts mass singer. I'm sorry, you're
gonna out this person? No,well, yes, I am with them,
with them. Hey, Finch,I'm going to regret this, aren't
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I Why are you going to regretthis? Okay, I'm putting all this
out there. Well that's okay.Oh wait wait, I thought she was
playing the role of party loops andyou guys were gonna reveal together. No,
no, so Finch was sleeping withthe man in the open marriage,
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or let me rephrase that Finch issleeping with the man in the open marriage.
So let me clarify. I justwant to I want to put this
out there. Everything that I wrotean email originally was was true, and
it was very much per on itsmeet as an open marriage. From that
it was this was all about andnow it's been well hold on, let
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me hit pause, let me hitpause, let me hit pause. Okay,
So in the just just for anybodythat wasn't with us, then,
by the way, happy one dayafter Jackie Robinson day. Absolutely absolutely,
thank you. Finch obviously loves baseballand just bore the Hey. So going
back to the guy, and you'reright, it was presented to you that
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that he is in an open marriage. But like you would hang out at
the house a lot with with boththe husband and the wife. Correct,
she was there some of the times. Correct, I mean it was mostly
just him and I, but therewere times where him and I were there
and she would come home, orthere were times where I would go over
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and they were both like already homeand I like came over because him and
I were like going out and likewe left together, and she was literally
sitting in the living room watching television. And she though, also believes that
you you and he worked together orworked in the same field together. So
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that was something that got a littlemurky when you guys were talking about on
air. So we had again,I I have met people in their world,
and they don't make it public thatthey have an open marriage, and
so when their partners meet people intheir world, they're usually introduced as friend.
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But because him and I worked inextremely similar field, it was just
I was just presented as a coworker, right, And and so I
was I that's how anyone I metin their world, this is this is
his coworker. And uh, likewe went you we went to like parties
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together where there were tons of people, and I mean it was it always
it worked out perfectly. Now,you guys questioned whether or not she thought
I was just his coworker, Andthat's the major question, is whether or
not she ever knew there was somethingmore going on, or if she really
just thought I was his co worker. Right, But you said that you
guys had a ton of sex.I mean him and I were in a
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relationship for the better part of ayear. So yeah, there was that,
Yeah, okay, well, Imean let's all be adults, like,
don't don't go getting all shy onme now, yes, now.
And there was the question of thefirst night I went home with him.
I think Diane was like, wherewas the wife? He? Nobody was
home that night? He was.We literally went out for drinks and nobody
was at his house, and wewent home and I spent the night there
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that night, in the in themarital bed. No, And I want
to make that very clear. Ihave never ever ever been in their bed.
They actually have a guest room thatI've been told that any outside partners.
That's where anything were to happen,whether it was with him or with
her. That's where it's like,that's where everything happened. I I never
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ever ever even asked or questioned ifwe could do it anywhere else like that
was. That is just where ittook place, right do what So why
are we talking about this today?Well, so finch, Finch, Well,
go ahead, Finch, because IValentine's Day. I just went back
to look val long enough. Yeah, yeah, he planted his roses.
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The reason I bring this up isyou know the question. The whole reason
I asked was am I seeing aguy in a nopermarriage? Or am I
helping a guy on his wife?And I'm now at the point where I'm
ninety percent or he was cheating onhis wife? Uh. Ten percent of
me thinks she that, I mean, I know they have an open marriage,
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Like that is clear. Whether Idon't know that he know that I
mean other than that they have anopen marriage. I'm not going to get
into the very specific detail, butthey have at least some level of an
open marriage. I don't. Soninety percent of me think he was actually
that she didn't actually know that.She really thought I was a coworker.
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There's ten percent of me that thinkshe she was allowed that she knew,
but we were him and I werebreaking rules that I didn't even know about.
Like there were rules and there wereparameters that he never made me aware
of what we were. I Imet certain people in their lives that I
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probably shouldn't have met, and Iwent and did things with him that we
probably probably shouldn't have done. Andit was and I just want to and
I'm not going to get a specificsbecause I don't want to give well no
no no, but I just Ijust want to when you say that we
did things that we shouldn't have done, you don't mean physically, you mean
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activity. No no no no nono no no no. This is like
like like we went to certain places, I met certain people in their lives.
And there was a very interesting phonecall a short while ago. What
was that? They both of themcalled me one night. It was from
his phone, so I answered itand he was like, hey, I
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have her on speakerphone with me.And there was a question about something him
and I had done. And again, this is not physical, it's not
sexual. It was just something wehad done, and she wanted to know
more about it. And it wasone of the things where I knew the
less I said, the better,and I I kind of played dumb.
And her response was I told himhe wasn't allowed to do that, that
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you weren't allowed to go with him, and I was like, and he
was trying to in the conversation,and she ended it by saying, you
know, there needs to be boundaries, Boundaries need to be established, boundaries
down like and then like the phonewas dead. So that's why a small
part of me thinks that she knew, like in the general context, but
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then she started finding out like otherstuff that we were doing, and that's
when she she got pissed and theystarted exciting. So you you ten percent
of you believes that there was justa violation of boundaries. Correct. Ninety
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nine of us think that it wasa I'm the one percent that's on that
that is that believes Finch is topercent the everybody else is going to tell
you they think that he was justcheating on his wife. But she says,
wait, hold on, and Itotally understand that, but confused and
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maybe this is a semantics thing withall hell with open relationships. If you
know they were in an open marriage. How, yes, I understand there
can be a violation of rules,But how are you saying ninety percent was
cheating on his wife? No,no thinks that it's it was that it
isn't an open marriage. But shesays, I know it was an open
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marriage. Oh, she thinks there'san open marriage. I think it might
be more open for her than tiplet's go. Oh wait, so's that
she's allowed to go out and getsome weiener, but he can't go out
and get bagoon. So my originalemail said they're the profile that they still
have up. It is still upand is still very public. It is.
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It said they were looking for eitherguys for her or cops. There
was no mention about him playing solo, which is kind of where the whole
thing kind of stemmed from. Wasokay with he really allowed to be going
out and without her and seeing seeingsomeone? Have you asked him, like
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why not just asking him? Ihave flat out, yes, I have
flat out asked him multiple times inmultiple places, and just flat I'm like,
did she really know? Like comeon? I'm like, I'm like,
and I do it in a verykind of casualoid, like just come
on, just tell me she doesn'tknow. He's like, no, she
knows, she knows everything. AndI'm like, all right. And there's
even been a couple of times.There was one there was one day where
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I was at his house and therewas she called him and there was a
phone call and I won't get intothe details, but she was very upset
and very mad at him, andthere was kind of kind of brought up
in the conference, and I wasI was brought up in the Congress.
And so when the phone call ended. I looked at him and I just
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I said, Okay, I'm gonnaask you a really serious question right now.
I'm like, does she know aboutus? And he was like yeah,
And I said, could that phonecall really need? It? Seem
like she doesn't know and he waslike, no, no, no,
she knows everything. I said,so when she comes home in an hour,
if I'm still here, and Iasked her, Hey, do you
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know that I've been banging your husbandfor the past couple of months, She's
gonna say yes, and he waslike, get out of my house day.
He's really upset, but yeah,she would say yes. And I
was like, okay, so haveyou asked her? I'm sorry, have
you asked her? Then? No, I'm not asked she she kind of
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scares me, Like I really likedher in the beginning, but now she
just kind of scares the crap outof me. And I'm just like,
da by all means, don't getout of that situation. So they're still
we know, but but in hisdefense, he is the only man alive.
No, sorry, I say onething, shut up? Can I
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I just want to clarify one thing. Okay, I know, I you
know there are people listening out therethat will they're probably thinking the worst of
me and calling me names of theradio. And that's fine. I understand
that this was very much presented tome in a very specific way, and
I in the beginning, I hadno reason to not believe what I was
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being told. Right, I can'ttell you either Diane did. Did Diane's
face fall or is she like not, like sudden happened there like Dane's face
went like she's talking about Diane.I'm sorry. You don't have to apologize
to me. What matters is howyou view yourself in this situation. Oh
my god, who brought in selfhelp? There? No? But I
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mean, can you look at yourselfin the mirror and be like, you
know what, I have no regretsabout anything I've done. I haven't you
know, gotten an interfering with withsomebody's marriage whatever. Okay, well she
didn't know that. I don't blamehold on, I don't blame myself.
I and this is there was atime, this was many many many years
ago, I was casually seeing aguy. It wasn't anything serious, and
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then come to find out he actuallyhad an extremely serious girlfriend who was just
happening to be living in another country, and I once I found out,
I was like, wts you?And as soon as I found out I
was quote unquote the other woman Ihad, I went off on a stream
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of explicitive I cannot say over theradio and I and I knew I hadn't
done anything wrong. I was goingoff of the information I was presented.
I thought he was had a certainlife. I did nothing wrong exactly,
And this is kind of where Iam now. I haven't done anything wrong.
I've gone by what the information Iwas given. And if he's lying
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and he's cheating, that's on him, that's not on me. Take that
diant. But are they still involved? Who her and this guy? Which
her the wife or Finch? Finch? Are you yes? No? Well,
well there was apparently there was amassive fight between them, like probably
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around two weeks ago, and hehas kind of fallen off the planet.
So I have a feeling that therewas I mean, I know there was
fighting, and I have a feelinghe will just stayed off into the sunset.
I don't think I'm going to getany kind of closure, but I
think it's kind of pretty much overright. But if he if he called
in two weeks he caused you again. Well, I was going to say
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if he called you and was like, hey, oh my god, I
just heard you on the radio.My phone finally charged. No. No,
but you would if he was like, hey, and everything's fine,
like I had to set her straight, she's cool, let's get together,
you would get you would hook backup with him. No, I really
at this point, I kind ofwant closure. No, I really I
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just want closure, and I reallyreally just want him to admit whether it's
all been a lie or hey,she knew, but you know, we
started crossing boundaries and that's what shegot kicked about. And why do you
care? We can't? Why doyou get still You're still not going to
be with him someone else? Why? What? Why? Why do you
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care for the me and so youso you know whether he lied to you
or not. Because I'm the typeof person that needs closure, I can't.
I don't like things just hanging out. I don't think. I don't
like leaving things undone. And I'mjust the type of person that needs closure.
That's just who I am. Andso if he called, that's all
I would want is the closure.What if he was like I will tell
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you exactly what you want, butwe are having sex one more time.
No, but remember those orgasms?What did she call them? Oh wait
wait what Wasn't it like a sexorgasm or something? It was a typo?
Oh wait what sex orgasm? Yes, sex orgasms? As if there
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was some sort of confusions. Itwas supposed to be best It was a
typo. And I sang Elliott literallyknow les than an email saying but he
never decided to say that on air. He didn't. What was I gonna
do? What was I gonna do? Go on the air? Goes Hey,
I got update. Finch didn't meanto say sex orgasms, not that
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frenchman. I'm proud of myself thatI never outed you. So I couldn't
go back in. And I gotan email from Finch bt dums it was
best orgasms. You know with thatmarried guy who's cheating on his wife.
It's Finch. She just wanted toclarify one thing. God yeah, anyway,
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So yeah, that's the update.I don't know if anyone cared about
the updates. Oh I did.The real question is was I having wasn't
an open marriage? Or was Ihelping a guy cheat I'm pretty sure.
Let me, let me, letme ask, let me ask Diane.
Did you can vote yes? DidFinch? Was she merely in having sex
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and having sex orgasms, not mewith a married man cheating on his wife?
Or was it somebody in an openmarriage that maybe the boundaries got crossed?
I think it more Lean's cheating.Cheating. Okay, I'm going to
write that down as a one yep, Kristin cheating. Okay, that's a
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two tyler. Well, now Idid forget about that original post. Wait,
which one? Oh about the lookingcouple a player for her or couples?
Yes, yes, but if Ican quote read and Ben, sorry
god, but it's three for three, three for three, so that's cheating.
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I'd like to ask other members ofthe staff. I don't know where
party Looch is, but i'd askhim. I am going to I'm still
going to side with Finch that thisis that this was something on their end
that violated well, yeah, themarriage. And if I was willing to
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sit here and tell you what someof those boundaries were that I think have
been crossed. Some people may change, and I don't get me wrong,
I don't I kind of think hewas cheating. But I'm just saying there
is the possibility of boundaries. Andif I did you say, of you
thinks he was cheating, yes,yes, but if I told you the
boundary, some of you might changeyour tune. But I'm not willing.
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I don't want to see it onthe read. I don't want to say
what they were on the radio.Well, then don't send me. If
you send me an email later,I'm gonna have to go on the air.
Go hey, Finn said, orI'll just say somebody said word yeah,
use a fake nail. Make sureyou keep her anonymous. Hey Finch,
let me ask you this. Letme ask you this. Was there
ever a time where it was justlike for whatever reason he was gone or
whatever, was it ever just youand her, like her and I like
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in the house. Yeah, Like, was there ever just a conversation where
it was the two of you andhe wasn't around? So there was one
time I came over they were bothhome, and Tim and I were getting
ready to go out, and hewas like upstairs getting ready and her and
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I were in the kitchen and likejust casually taught like it was I mean,
it was like a Saturday night andher and I were literally just having
a casual conversation about nothing. Butisn't that odd that she wouldn't even go
like, hey, I know,you guys are like going out and having
fun and like like like talking toyou, Like she knew that it was
an open relationship as opposed to thatthis guy's going out with his co worker
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work trip to the bedroom. No. I mean it was literally it was
like the most it was the mostcasual conversation. But every interaction I ever
had with her, there was absolutelynothing brought up about anything between him and
I. That's odd to me.That's odd to me. Yeah. So
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they finally listed Strasburg's retirement, andlet me just say there was some Diane
kept saying in the original conversation,you know, trust your gut, trust
your gut. And I totally believethat. And like I said in the
beginning, I had there was nothingin my gut, there was nothing that
doubted him. But over the past, sometimes things started feeling fishy, things
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started feeling weird, Like I said, I flat on multiple times, and
and yeah, just trust your gut. So you got your gut right now,
your gut right now is telling youhe was cheating on his wife.
Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely condoms. So what condoms? Yeah? Every
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time? Yeah, then not thebest orgasms, I'm sorry, not the
best I'm sorry sex orgasms. Thenyou're good, You're good, those happened,
all right? All right, verygood? So where do we go
from here? Finch? First ofall, let's let's make sure Finch,
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do you feel better? I mean, I think fine. I mean,
I kind of. I mean,I'm I'm pissed at him and i'm but
I'm I'm fine with myself. LikeI said, I didn't do anything wrong.
I was given information and I lived. I got that and I got
I got that. I'm not overhere hating myself. No, I'm fine.
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Yeah. Okay, Why Diane,why did you just make that?
I find it hard to believe thatif she is trusting her gut and she's
ninety plus percent sure writing that thiswas a cheating situation, that there wouldn't
be some form of at least alittle inkling of guilt in there, like
maybe I didn't, maybe I missed, Maybe I missed some signs I'm a
liar, Maybe I missed some signs. I'm team Finch. I'm team Finch.
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I didn't do anything wrong, andyou have to and let me.
Let me get add a little bitmore information here. You can understand there
were it wasn't just a random nighthere and there. I mean there were
times I went to his house andbecause she was away, I spent entire
weeks with him at his house.That bone burying that bone. No,
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I'm just saying, you know,I'm walking in and out of the front
door. Anyone in the neighborhood couldsee me, my cars parked out front.
You know, I had No.I mean, you're not again,
This isn't me like sneaking in inthe middle of the night and there's a
side door. I mean, I'mcoming and going out the front door,
and I'm staying for like a weekin their house like I had, you
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know, and him and I,like we literally went away multiple times together.
There was no reason for me tothink anything otherwise. So when you
guys went away, did you didyou apologize to meney. I've spent my
whole life feeling that way. Theone last thing when you guys would go,
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when you guys would go away,was it one hotel room? Yeah?
Absolutely? Okay, Well, Idon't know, just what kind of
question is that? I don't know. I mean sometimes for work trips,
you got to stay in separate rooms. I don't know. No, I
always shared a room, always hereto bed. It was one bed,
it was you know. Yeah,we went away a couple of times.
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Well again that I mean we wouldwait for multiple times, multiple times,
for multiple nights. Again, allthe more reason I thought she knew love
it, love it all right.You will keep me posted as to what
happens. Is there any chance Isthere any chance he or the wife are
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listening? No, that no offense, but you are not their cup of
tea? Oh great, these twowho have an open marriage where he could
just take women willy nilly all overthe place and bang them like there's no
tomorrow. But you know what,I can't listen to the show. I've
heard them say qweef before. You'rethe bad guy, he says, God
damn. All right, Finch,all right, I will talk soon.
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Sure, absolutely, go cap tonight. Amen, sister, Amen,
Amen, thank you, and Diane. Oh I feel so much better now.
I don't have to hide. Whatare you trying to make me feel
bad for? Well, as longas no one goes back and listens to
the original audio. Through all ofthese trials and tribulations, you've just been
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really judgy and it's solely been you, not me. Wait, so going
back to the game, was Dianereally judging it wasn't just me? Would
you have been different that first timehad we known it was Finch? Well,
yeah, you don't want to hurther feelings, but at some point
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it's like, well, why juststart today? I don't know. Was
it different because she could speak forherself? Yeah, so you and she
acknowledged that ninety percent of her thoughtit was a cheating situation, right,
but she could like react to whatyou were saying, and you weren't just
speaking about somebody who didn't have aphone or a nameless, faceless person.
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Yeah yeah, right, all right, Wow, I feel great. I
feel great because now I feel likeI just got that off your chest.
Yeah, Like I feel like I'vebeen hiding, but now I could just
openly, like just talk about Finch. That's not who I thought it was.
The who'd you think it like?
Remember we had talked to Adam.Adam used to work at Tailgate ninety eight
five in Colorado Springs and he hatedthe PD. Adam, I've been there,
buddy. His call spun out ofthose What was he calling about originally
(00:20):
Hassward affirmation. That's right, that'sright. And he so he had he
had a horrible run in Colorado Springs. He was there for like less than
a year. He hated it,but he was a disc jockey there and
hated it. But then but hedid say he took everything that he learned
there and came back and started hisown like event company, like that he
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does on the weekend. Wait,here's Adam Adam. What's man? Hey,
how you doing, sir? Itis the best day in my life
thanks to you. How are youdoing, dude? I am doing great.
Thank you. So, anyway,I was talking to so, we
were talking to Adam yesterday and Iwas like, I just I don't listen.
Radio sucks. I get it.However, I didn't want his last
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experience to be horrible in Colorado Springs. And you're talking about maybe the business
of radio. Oh yes, yeah, yeah, no, this show's freaking
awesome, asked Ben and Reed,I advise everyone against that. Oh okay,
anyway, so I told Adam Iwant him to do nights, just
even for a night, just gethave one good experience, go on the
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air, have fun, go bea disc jockey and just have fun with
it. Now. The biggest surprisewas that Dustin actually called him. That
shocks me. Maybe that's why hedidn't get his taxes done. Anyway,
the anyway, Adam is going todo seven to midnight tonight on DC one
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O one, dude, that's great. I'm so excited for you. I'm
freaking out, man, and I'mready to go. I was sitting here
literally crassing my opening statement, asyou call it. So let's do this.
The wait, well, not fortonight. I don't want to know
what the opening statement is right now. I'll surprise us. Yeah no,
no, no, I'm just readyto rock. Let's get it. There
we go. Oh. I lovethe attitude. I love the attitude.
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So they went over it, theywent over everything with you. So from
seven to midnight tonight you'll be You'llbe doing the night show on DC one
oh one. I'm literally driving thetrain on my hometown legendary rock station.
Absolutely that's awesome. That's awesome.I'm very excited for you. I hope
don't be nervous. Honestly, you'renot auditioning for a job, you know
(02:29):
what I mean. Just go inand have fun. Just have fun.
Remember how bad Colorado Springs was andjust no, no, you want to
go I'll be serious. You wantto go out having fun, So just
have fun tonight. Don't let it, don't let it all get You're gonna
be nervous. I get it.I'm nervous every day. But I just
I want you to have fun tonight. I really appreciate it. Man.
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I hope everybody has fun listening toit, because it's gonna be Look,
I'm either going to sink, I'mgonna swim. We're gonna find out together.
But either way, we're gonna rockout. It's gonna be a journey.
Let's get it. Let's that's notfun tonight. I love it.
I love it all right, Verygood, very good. So again,
Adam will be on doing seven tomidnight. Hey, how was your interaction
with the program director yesterday? Well, if that's all he really is,
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you guys have a really cool boss. I'm just gonna throw it out there.
Oh it's not. He was puttingon an act. All right,
very good, very good. Hewas super chill, good good, good,
good, Adam. I will Iwill turn. I will be listening
to you this evening. I can'twait. Thank you, sir. Tune
in. I can't wait either.Let's have fun there you go? Hey,
well are you? What are yougoing by? Just Adam party Luke.
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You see, you can call meparty Mike all day yesterday. Let's
go party louch. That's me allright, dude, have fun. I
look forward to listening. Thank you, Elliott, you're the best. Hey,
you gotta do. Talk to youlater. I love that. I'm
so excited for him. It's quitethe energy. Yeah no, it's great.
(03:57):
But I don't want that to sortof deter those that would love a
job in this industry who maybe havea lower energy. There's a space for
everybody. Yeah, no, listen. I think it's great. I love
it. I hope he kills ittonight. I really do. I hope
he kills and Dustin did have nicethings to say about their interaction yesterday as
(04:20):
well. Yeah he did. Ithink they kind of hit it off.
Yeah, good, good, that'sexciting. Now the other thing is this
are you addressing AB the oh?Is that the other thing? No?
Hey, Ab, good news badnews, good news. You still have
(04:41):
to come in and push all thebuttons and everything bad news. You're not
talking party looches. Oh who's that? I don't know, some guy that
called an Elliott show. Anyway,maybe they become the new Read and Ben
could be in new duo in themaking loose all right. So the other
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thing, I want you to thinkback a little bit. I told you
that there was somebody and I can'tremember I knew who it was, but
it was somebody that we all knowthat was involved with and it was somebody
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in an open marriage. Oh wewow, yeah, went wrote into you
say again, yes they had.I had read the letter that I had
received there. The belief was,I'm trying to remember off the top of
my head, so I hope Idon't mess this up. The belief was
that they were in an open marriage. But there were some questions because remember
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then we started learning all about hownot every not every open marriage has the
same rules, right, And thenthere were some people that were like,
no, that guy's just cheating onhis wife. And then there were other
people, And I feel like Iwas defensive because I knew the person who
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was. I don't want to sayhaving an affair, because if if it's
somebody in an open marriage, you'renot having an affair with them, well,
then they're not having an affair,They're not in a relationship with anybody.
But who was who was hooking upwith the the the husband in the
open marriage? Right, So maybeI was being a little defensive. I
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don't know. Well, you werealso trying your hardest to like not exactly
who it was, because you said, and you believe you just reiterated it.
You said we had met the personor just knew of the person both.
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So we've met this person. Yes, yes, Now why are you
bringing it up again? Because,like Nick Cannon would do, it's time
to take the mask off, hehosts mass singer. I'm sorry, you're
gonna out this person? No,well, yes, I am with them,
with them. Hey, Finch,I'm going to regret this, aren't
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I Why are you going to regretthis? Okay, I'm putting all this
out there. Well that's okay.Oh wait wait, I thought she was
playing the role of party loops andyou guys were gonna reveal together. No,
no, so Finch was sleeping withthe man in the open marriage,
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or let me rephrase that Finch issleeping with the man in the open marriage.
So let me clarify. I justwant to I want to put this
out there. Everything that I wrotean email originally was was true, and
it was very much per on itsmeet as an open marriage. From that
it was this was all about andnow it's been well hold on, let
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me hit pause, let me hitpause, let me hit pause. Okay,
So in the just just for anybodythat wasn't with us, then,
by the way, happy one dayafter Jackie Robinson day. Absolutely absolutely,
thank you. Finch obviously loves baseballand just bore the Hey. So going
back to the guy, and you'reright, it was presented to you that
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that he is in an open marriage. But like you would hang out at
the house a lot with with boththe husband and the wife. Correct,
she was there some of the times. Correct, I mean it was mostly
just him and I, but therewere times where him and I were there
and she would come home, orthere were times where I would go over
(08:52):
and they were both like already homeand I like came over because him and
I were like going out and likewe left together, and she was literally
sitting in the living room watching television. And she though, also believes that
you you and he worked together orworked in the same field together. So
(09:13):
that was something that got a littlemurky when you guys were talking about on
air. So we had again,I I have met people in their world,
and they don't make it public thatthey have an open marriage, and
so when their partners meet people intheir world, they're usually introduced as friend.
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But because him and I worked inextremely similar field, it was just
I was just presented as a coworker, right, And and so I
was I that's how anyone I metin their world, this is this is
his coworker. And uh, likewe went you we went to like parties
(10:03):
together where there were tons of people, and I mean it was it always
it worked out perfectly. Now,you guys questioned whether or not she thought
I was just his coworker, Andthat's the major question, is whether or
not she ever knew there was somethingmore going on, or if she really
just thought I was his co worker. Right, But you said that you
guys had a ton of sex.I mean him and I were in a
(10:30):
relationship for the better part of ayear. So yeah, there was that,
Yeah, okay, well, Imean let's all be adults, like,
don't don't go getting all shy onme now, yes, now.
And there was the question of thefirst night I went home with him.
I think Diane was like, wherewas the wife? He? Nobody was
home that night? He was.We literally went out for drinks and nobody
was at his house, and wewent home and I spent the night there
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that night, in the in themarital bed. No, And I want
to make that very clear. Ihave never ever ever been in their bed.
They actually have a guest room thatI've been told that any outside partners.
That's where anything were to happen,whether it was with him or with
her. That's where it's like,that's where everything happened. I I never
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ever ever even asked or questioned ifwe could do it anywhere else like that
was. That is just where ittook place, right do what So why
are we talking about this today?Well, so finch, Finch, Well,
go ahead, Finch, because IValentine's Day. I just went back
to look val long enough. Yeah, yeah, he planted his roses.
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The reason I bring this up isyou know the question. The whole reason
I asked was am I seeing aguy in a nopermarriage? Or am I
helping a guy on his wife?And I'm now at the point where I'm
ninety percent or he was cheating onhis wife? Uh. Ten percent of
me thinks she that, I mean, I know they have an open marriage,
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Like that is clear. Whether Idon't know that he know that I
mean other than that they have anopen marriage. I'm not going to get
into the very specific detail, butthey have at least some level of an
open marriage. I don't. Soninety percent of me think he was actually
that she didn't actually know that.She really thought I was a coworker.
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There's ten percent of me that thinkshe she was allowed that she knew,
but we were him and I werebreaking rules that I didn't even know about.
Like there were rules and there wereparameters that he never made me aware
of what we were. I Imet certain people in their lives that I
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probably shouldn't have met, and Iwent and did things with him that we
probably probably shouldn't have done. Andit was and I just want to and
I'm not going to get a specificsbecause I don't want to give well no
no no, but I just Ijust want to when you say that we
did things that we shouldn't have done, you don't mean physically, you mean
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activity. No no no no nono no no no. This is like
like like we went to certain places, I met certain people in their lives.
And there was a very interesting phonecall a short while ago. What
was that? They both of themcalled me one night. It was from
his phone, so I answered itand he was like, hey, I
(13:43):
have her on speakerphone with me.And there was a question about something him
and I had done. And again, this is not physical, it's not
sexual. It was just something wehad done, and she wanted to know
more about it. And it wasone of the things where I knew the
less I said, the better,and I I kind of played dumb.
And her response was I told himhe wasn't allowed to do that, that
(14:07):
you weren't allowed to go with him, and I was like, and he
was trying to in the conversation,and she ended it by saying, you
know, there needs to be boundaries, Boundaries need to be established, boundaries
down like and then like the phonewas dead. So that's why a small
part of me thinks that she knew, like in the general context, but
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then she started finding out like otherstuff that we were doing, and that's
when she she got pissed and theystarted exciting. So you you ten percent
of you believes that there was justa violation of boundaries. Correct. Ninety
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nine of us think that it wasa I'm the one percent that's on that
that is that believes Finch is topercent the everybody else is going to tell
you they think that he was justcheating on his wife. But she says,
wait, hold on, and Itotally understand that, but confused and
(15:11):
maybe this is a semantics thing withall hell with open relationships. If you
know they were in an open marriage. How, yes, I understand there
can be a violation of rules,But how are you saying ninety percent was
cheating on his wife? No,no thinks that it's it was that it
isn't an open marriage. But shesays, I know it was an open
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marriage. Oh, she thinks there'san open marriage. I think it might
be more open for her than tiplet's go. Oh wait, so's that
she's allowed to go out and getsome weiener, but he can't go out
and get bagoon. So my originalemail said they're the profile that they still
have up. It is still upand is still very public. It is.
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It said they were looking for eitherguys for her or cops. There
was no mention about him playing solo, which is kind of where the whole
thing kind of stemmed from. Wasokay with he really allowed to be going
out and without her and seeing seeingsomeone? Have you asked him, like
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why not just asking him? Ihave flat out, yes, I have
flat out asked him multiple times inmultiple places, and just flat I'm like,
did she really know? Like comeon? I'm like, I'm like,
and I do it in a verykind of casualoid, like just come
on, just tell me she doesn'tknow. He's like, no, she
knows, she knows everything. AndI'm like, all right. And there's
even been a couple of times.There was one there was one day where
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I was at his house and therewas she called him and there was a
phone call and I won't get intothe details, but she was very upset
and very mad at him, andthere was kind of kind of brought up
in the conference, and I wasI was brought up in the Congress.
And so when the phone call ended. I looked at him and I just
(17:04):
I said, Okay, I'm gonnaask you a really serious question right now.
I'm like, does she know aboutus? And he was like yeah,
And I said, could that phonecall really need? It? Seem
like she doesn't know and he waslike, no, no, no,
she knows everything. I said,so when she comes home in an hour,
if I'm still here, and Iasked her, Hey, do you
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know that I've been banging your husbandfor the past couple of months, She's
gonna say yes, and he waslike, get out of my house day.
He's really upset, but yeah,she would say yes. And I
was like, okay, so haveyou asked her? I'm sorry, have
you asked her? Then? No, I'm not asked she she kind of
(17:47):
scares me, Like I really likedher in the beginning, but now she
just kind of scares the crap outof me. And I'm just like,
da by all means, don't getout of that situation. So they're still
we know, but but in hisdefense, he is the only man alive.
No, sorry, I say onething, shut up? Can I
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I just want to clarify one thing. Okay, I know, I you
know there are people listening out therethat will they're probably thinking the worst of
me and calling me names of theradio. And that's fine. I understand
that this was very much presented tome in a very specific way, and
I in the beginning, I hadno reason to not believe what I was
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being told. Right, I can'ttell you either Diane did. Did Diane's
face fall or is she like not, like sudden happened there like Dane's face
went like she's talking about Diane.I'm sorry. You don't have to apologize
to me. What matters is howyou view yourself in this situation. Oh
my god, who brought in selfhelp? There? No? But I
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mean, can you look at yourselfin the mirror and be like, you
know what, I have no regretsabout anything I've done. I haven't you
know, gotten an interfering with withsomebody's marriage whatever. Okay, well she
didn't know that. I don't blamehold on, I don't blame myself.
I and this is there was atime, this was many many many years
ago, I was casually seeing aguy. It wasn't anything serious, and
(19:25):
then come to find out he actuallyhad an extremely serious girlfriend who was just
happening to be living in another country, and I once I found out,
I was like, wts you?And as soon as I found out I
was quote unquote the other woman Ihad, I went off on a stream
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of explicitive I cannot say over theradio and I and I knew I hadn't
done anything wrong. I was goingoff of the information I was presented.
I thought he was had a certainlife. I did nothing wrong exactly,
And this is kind of where Iam now. I haven't done anything wrong.
I've gone by what the information Iwas given. And if he's lying
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and he's cheating, that's on him, that's not on me. Take that
diant. But are they still involved? Who her and this guy? Which
her the wife or Finch? Finch? Are you yes? No? Well,
well there was apparently there was amassive fight between them, like probably
(20:30):
around two weeks ago, and hehas kind of fallen off the planet.
So I have a feeling that therewas I mean, I know there was
fighting, and I have a feelinghe will just stayed off into the sunset.
I don't think I'm going to getany kind of closure, but I
think it's kind of pretty much overright. But if he if he called
in two weeks he caused you again. Well, I was going to say
(20:51):
if he called you and was like, hey, oh my god, I
just heard you on the radio.My phone finally charged. No. No,
but you would if he was like, hey, and everything's fine,
like I had to set her straight, she's cool, let's get together,
you would get you would hook backup with him. No, I really
at this point, I kind ofwant closure. No, I really I
(21:12):
just want closure, and I reallyreally just want him to admit whether it's
all been a lie or hey,she knew, but you know, we
started crossing boundaries and that's what shegot kicked about. And why do you
care? We can't? Why doyou get still You're still not going to
be with him someone else? Why? What? Why? Why do you
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care for the me and so youso you know whether he lied to you
or not. Because I'm the typeof person that needs closure, I can't.
I don't like things just hanging out. I don't think. I don't
like leaving things undone. And I'mjust the type of person that needs closure.
That's just who I am. Andso if he called, that's all
I would want is the closure.What if he was like I will tell
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you exactly what you want, butwe are having sex one more time.
No, but remember those orgasms?What did she call them? Oh wait
wait what Wasn't it like a sexorgasm or something? It was a typo?
Oh wait what sex orgasm? Yes, sex orgasms? As if there
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was some sort of confusions. Itwas supposed to be best It was a
typo. And I sang Elliott literallyknow les than an email saying but he
never decided to say that on air. He didn't. What was I gonna
do? What was I gonna do? Go on the air? Goes Hey,
I got update. Finch didn't meanto say sex orgasms, not that
(22:41):
frenchman. I'm proud of myself thatI never outed you. So I couldn't
go back in. And I gotan email from Finch bt dums it was
best orgasms. You know with thatmarried guy who's cheating on his wife.
It's Finch. She just wanted toclarify one thing. God yeah, anyway,
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So yeah, that's the update.I don't know if anyone cared about
the updates. Oh I did.The real question is was I having wasn't
an open marriage? Or was Ihelping a guy cheat I'm pretty sure.
Let me, let me, letme ask, let me ask Diane.
Did you can vote yes? DidFinch? Was she merely in having sex
(23:27):
and having sex orgasms, not mewith a married man cheating on his wife?
Or was it somebody in an openmarriage that maybe the boundaries got crossed?
I think it more Lean's cheating.Cheating. Okay, I'm going to
write that down as a one yep, Kristin cheating. Okay, that's a
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two tyler. Well, now Idid forget about that original post. Wait,
which one? Oh about the lookingcouple a player for her or couples?
Yes, yes, but if Ican quote read and Ben, sorry
god, but it's three for three, three for three, so that's cheating.
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I'd like to ask other members ofthe staff. I don't know where
party Looch is, but i'd askhim. I am going to I'm still
going to side with Finch that thisis that this was something on their end
that violated well, yeah, themarriage. And if I was willing to
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sit here and tell you what someof those boundaries were that I think have
been crossed. Some people may change, and I don't get me wrong,
I don't I kind of think hewas cheating. But I'm just saying there
is the possibility of boundaries. Andif I did you say, of you
thinks he was cheating, yes,yes, but if I told you the
boundary, some of you might changeyour tune. But I'm not willing.
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I don't want to see it onthe read. I don't want to say
what they were on the radio.Well, then don't send me. If
you send me an email later,I'm gonna have to go on the air.
Go hey, Finn said, orI'll just say somebody said word yeah,
use a fake nail. Make sureyou keep her anonymous. Hey Finch,
let me ask you this. Letme ask you this. Was there
ever a time where it was justlike for whatever reason he was gone or
whatever, was it ever just youand her, like her and I like
(25:26):
in the house. Yeah, Like, was there ever just a conversation where
it was the two of you andhe wasn't around? So there was one
time I came over they were bothhome, and Tim and I were getting
ready to go out, and hewas like upstairs getting ready and her and
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I were in the kitchen and likejust casually taught like it was I mean,
it was like a Saturday night andher and I were literally just having
a casual conversation about nothing. Butisn't that odd that she wouldn't even go
like, hey, I know,you guys are like going out and having
fun and like like like talking toyou, Like she knew that it was
an open relationship as opposed to thatthis guy's going out with his co worker
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work trip to the bedroom. No. I mean it was literally it was
like the most it was the mostcasual conversation. But every interaction I ever
had with her, there was absolutelynothing brought up about anything between him and
I. That's odd to me.That's odd to me. Yeah. So
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they finally listed Strasburg's retirement, andlet me just say there was some Diane
kept saying in the original conversation,you know, trust your gut, trust
your gut. And I totally believethat. And like I said in the
beginning, I had there was nothingin my gut, there was nothing that
doubted him. But over the past, sometimes things started feeling fishy, things
(26:56):
started feeling weird, Like I said, I flat on multiple times, and
and yeah, just trust your gut. So you got your gut right now,
your gut right now is telling youhe was cheating on his wife.
Yeah, absolutely right, absolutely condoms. So what condoms? Yeah? Every
(27:18):
time? Yeah, then not thebest orgasms, I'm sorry, not the
best I'm sorry sex orgasms. Thenyou're good, You're good, those happened,
all right? All right, verygood? So where do we go
from here? Finch? First ofall, let's let's make sure Finch,
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do you feel better? I mean, I think fine. I mean,
I kind of. I mean,I'm I'm pissed at him and i'm but
I'm I'm fine with myself. LikeI said, I didn't do anything wrong.
I was given information and I lived. I got that and I got
I got that. I'm not overhere hating myself. No, I'm fine.
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Yeah. Okay, Why Diane,why did you just make that?
I find it hard to believe thatif she is trusting her gut and she's
ninety plus percent sure writing that thiswas a cheating situation, that there wouldn't
be some form of at least alittle inkling of guilt in there, like
maybe I didn't, maybe I missed, Maybe I missed some signs I'm a
liar, Maybe I missed some signs. I'm team Finch. I'm team Finch.
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I didn't do anything wrong, andyou have to and let me.
Let me get add a little bitmore information here. You can understand there
were it wasn't just a random nighthere and there. I mean there were
times I went to his house andbecause she was away, I spent entire
weeks with him at his house.That bone burying that bone. No,
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I'm just saying, you know,I'm walking in and out of the front
door. Anyone in the neighborhood couldsee me, my cars parked out front.
You know, I had No.I mean, you're not again,
This isn't me like sneaking in inthe middle of the night and there's a
side door. I mean, I'mcoming and going out the front door,
and I'm staying for like a weekin their house like I had, you
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know, and him and I,like we literally went away multiple times together.
There was no reason for me tothink anything otherwise. So when you
guys went away, did you didyou apologize to meney. I've spent my
whole life feeling that way. Theone last thing when you guys would go,
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when you guys would go away,was it one hotel room? Yeah?
Absolutely? Okay, Well, Idon't know, just what kind of
question is that? I don't know. I mean sometimes for work trips,
you got to stay in separate rooms. I don't know. No, I
always shared a room, always hereto bed. It was one bed,
it was you know. Yeah,we went away a couple of times.
(29:57):
Well again that I mean we wouldwait for multiple times, multiple times,
for multiple nights. Again, allthe more reason I thought she knew love
it, love it all right.You will keep me posted as to what
happens. Is there any chance Isthere any chance he or the wife are
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listening? No, that no offense, but you are not their cup of
tea? Oh great, these twowho have an open marriage where he could
just take women willy nilly all overthe place and bang them like there's no
tomorrow. But you know what,I can't listen to the show. I've
heard them say qweef before. You'rethe bad guy, he says, God
damn. All right, Finch,all right, I will talk soon.
(30:53):
Sure, absolutely, go cap tonight. Amen, sister, Amen,
Amen, thank you, and Diane. Oh I feel so much better now.
I don't have to hide. Whatare you trying to make me feel
bad for? Well, as longas no one goes back and listens to
the original audio. Through all ofthese trials and tribulations, you've just been
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really judgy and it's solely been you, not me. Wait, so going
back to the game, was Dianereally judging it wasn't just me? Would
you have been different that first timehad we known it was Finch? Well,
yeah, you don't want to hurther feelings, but at some point
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it's like, well, why juststart today? I don't know. Was
it different because she could speak forherself? Yeah, so you and she
acknowledged that ninety percent of her thoughtit was a cheating situation, right,
but she could like react to whatyou were saying, and you weren't just
speaking about somebody who didn't have aphone or a nameless, faceless person.
(32:04):
Yeah yeah, right, all right, Wow, I feel great. I
feel great because now I feel likeI just got that off your chest.
Yeah, Like I feel like I'vebeen hiding, but now I could just
openly, like just talk about Finch. That's not who I thought it was.
The who'd you think it like?
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