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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What year did you graduate from high school? If you
don't mind my asking, twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
If I were to go back and, uh pull down
your records, would I see that you were in terms
of attendance? Were you a good student or bad student?
Not in in terms of grades, but attendance.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, my first two years, my attendance was great, and
then I started doing online classes my junior and senior year,
So I wasn't I didn't really have to be in
the school.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, right, right, but obviously because of COVID.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I guess that she's twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh you graduated in twenty nineteen. Yeah, oh yeah, that's
pre COVID. Yeah. I wasn't even sick yet. Hey, what
was the what? Wait? So why were you doing online classes?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It was just an accelerated course. I could graduate sooner.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh so were you like, were you a brainiac?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I don't know about that, but I was definitely ready
to get out.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Of school, right, No, you know what, good for you?
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But if you had to guess, if you had to guess,
did you miss more than ten days a year?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Probably not?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
No? Is that is that a lot?
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Or not?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Ten days? Is a lot, is it.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I think, so ten days that doesn't seem like that much.
Speaker 7 (01:29):
I mean if you say, well, you're still there for
one hundred and seventy instructional days, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Don't look at it that way.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I mean, obviously there's like vacation days and in like
half days, like all the normal stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But are ten days of like not.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Did you ever did you think you used ten sick days?
Probably not? Probably?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, but it's different now, it's different now true the
like like I mean, listen, I went because I had
to go, and then towards the end of high school,
I went because I knew, like I was living on
my own and there would be huge consequences if I
didn't go, and stuff like dan and I was a brainiac.
But the but yeah, no, but I feel like I
(02:07):
feel like it was different than than it is now.
Speaker 8 (02:12):
It looks like and it varies across jurisdictions here, but
that ten percent of school days missed is the demarcation line.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Ten percent of school days missed is what do you
mean the demarcation line.
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Of where you could be okay, and now we have
a problem.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So eighteen days, yes, does that seem I.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
Still think that's yes, Okay, I still think ten's a lot.
I disagree because I'm going back. I don't think Marley
ever missed ten ten days in a school year.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
My older one did, My younger one may have. He
may have.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Was he sick a lot?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah? Not not just from COVID.
Speaker 9 (02:53):
But hi, Jelly in the morning, heil it? Hey who's this?
Speaker 7 (03:03):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Hey Joe? What's going on? Dude?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You not much in terms of school when you were
in school, when you were in high school?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Did you have an attendance problem? Or were you good?
Speaker 10 (03:14):
I think I was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
What if you if you had to guess, on average,
how many days a year did you miss?
Speaker 11 (03:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I get I can't remember. It's been too far.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Back, five six did you miss? Were you missing more
than ten fifteen days a year?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Probably not?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now maybe that's maybe, Maybe that really is high.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
I do think though times have changed, Yes, because you see.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah, I think it seems a little high.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
Yeah, No, I agree, I agree, or put to put
illness aside?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Right? Oh, Dennis appointment? Well, I just missed the.
Speaker 8 (03:50):
Whole day, even appointments. I do feel like some parents
are much more willing to just blow off a week
and a week and a half of school for vacation time.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's true. That's definitely true. That's definitely true.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
And I don't mean just trying to like beat crowds
at a popular spot for trips. These are just like, oh,
well there's a wedding and we're going to make a
family journey out of it.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, we have a wedding in Denver, so we're
just going to go spend the week in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah. No, I would agree with that.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
I don't remember that at all from when I was
in school, but I've seen a lot of my kids'
friends do that.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Where they just take the whole week because there's some
engagement or event.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Eighteen still seems like a lot.
Speaker 8 (04:36):
Eighteen is a lot. Yeah, These that's where there's a problem.
Those are dot co websites.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Would I be able to find somebody who whether it
was for like their parents taking them to Denver or
just you know what, I just I hated school and
would skip all the time. Could I find somebody who
would miss let's say, ten twelve, fifteen days a year?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yes, yes, Okay, everybody just told me that's a lot.
Maybe five It is.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
A lot, But that's not to say that you couldn't
get a whole line of people who've done.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
It, like you shouldn't kill someone, but they're a serial murders.
Your point to those that were chronically absent, and it
was a lot we're talking about what almost could be
considered excused absence, is you're right, there are kids who.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Just hate school.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, I mean, listen, I definitely not eighteen days, but
we skipped school absolutely.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
How many days do you think you skipped per year?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I was worse earlier than later.
Speaker 8 (05:36):
Earlier meaning like middle school or freshman and senior year
of high school.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Freshman and sophomore year of high school, you were worse then? Yeah,
because junior and then senior year I lived on my own.
I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I couldn't f that up, even when it was easier.
If I wanted to, I could have just skipped.
Speaker 8 (05:52):
What do you think your worst year was in terms
of skipping?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't even know what to guess, Like, pardon me,
wants to go twenty but there's no way. There's no
way to skip. There's no way, there's no way, like
because like at that point, they would send the truant
officer after you.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
What'd you do it? Maybe once a month?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, or like definitely if we had a fire drill.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
Okay, but how about you get up in the morning
and you never even made it into I intended doors.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, I definitely a handful.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
I called myself in late quite a bit, senior. Yeah,
because I had I had I could pass for my
mom on the phone. Right, Hi, this is Pearl Stupid.
Diane's not feeling well this morning. She's probably gonna be
in around third period. Okay, thanks for calling. And then
I had friends who I can get office passes from. Yeah, right, no, no, oh,
and I had mature handwriting.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Shows up late. We always showed up late.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I mean sometimes when you're hitch hiking to school,
they're not giving you rides.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So yeah, No, we definitely showed up late.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Doesn't that screen What do you mean showing up? Yeah?
Doesn't that count against you? No, a certain period.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
They know they don't want to leave any child behind.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
This good old days.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
They weren't back then.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Where am I going? Kristen Line three? Hi Elliott in
the morning. Hello, Hi, who's as.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
This is Brandy?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yes, Brandy, what can I do for you?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Times have definitely changed. My daughter literally misses at least
two days a week. Is she actually in her senior
senior year right now?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Of high school? Of high school?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And can I can I ask where she goes to school?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
She goes to Long Reach in Colombia.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Right, And why just out of curiosity? Why why does
she miss two days a week?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
She sucks?
Speaker 5 (07:52):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I don't tell you, not what I was expecting.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
No, she's horrible.
Speaker 12 (08:02):
She's horrible to get. She's just not a morning person.
And like right now before I called you, guys, I'm
like blowing up her phone to make sure she's up.
And she probably will miss today. And she missed on
Monday or yesterday.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh four day weekends. Sweet, yeah, yeah, she'll graduate, she's
a senior.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (08:21):
I mean it's ridiculous, Like Truant's officer don't exist anymore.
I tried calling to see if I could like get
somebody to like get her to school.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Noop, So they don't get they don't care.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Is this a bona? Can I can't tell if you're
angry or not? Is this a bone?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You're just like showing out her hands.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
You got to understand.
Speaker 12 (08:40):
I've been dealing with this since middle school. So I'm
tired and exhausted. So yes, I'm a little bit angry.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Do you do you punish her?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
What can you do? Diane?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I make her phone away? Take her phone away.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
To wake her up?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Hey, bet an alarm clock?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
The what is it the nineteen twenties? Yes, what is
Fred Flintstone going to drive me to school?
Speaker 12 (09:04):
She has like six alarms on her phone that'll go
off and she just won't wake up.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
By the way, it's rich coming from Diane who has
eight alarms at her house.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, am I here?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
By the way, you might want to donate one to Josh.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Let me ask you this. No, no, no, you're but
let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So I was reading so like, chronic absenteeism, right, is
something that everybody wants to try to figure out and
get kids into school and stuff like that. So there
is a school hold on what is the name of it,
I'll tell you, don't tell me.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Digital Pioneers Academy in DC.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
They're trying to figure out how to deal with chronic absenteeism.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And they're not the first school to do this.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
By the way, they cite schools in New Orleans that
have done it. I'm scanned Indianapolis has done it. Would
your daughter get up and go if she got paid
fifty bucks a week to go to school?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Probably not?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Like I said, Oh, I thought you.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Were going to say yes.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Damn what's her allowance?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
She doesn't even she doesn't get an allowance. You don't
go to school, you don't get no money. I don't
know what to tell you. You'd get a job.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So now so so, so that's a program.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
There's two programs that this Digital Pioneers Academy is going
to do. And again it's not it's it's it's not
a new idea. It's not a new thought. They are
they are copying other schools and they're trying to see
if they have some success, right and the so the
either you opt in, obviously, and some students get fifty
(10:45):
dollars a week to go to show up at school,
and then some get like just gift cards and stuff.
Not the it may not be fifty dollars a week,
but it is Amazon gift cards or just gift cards
to use for I don't know if it's for like
like like chipper and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But they're essentially paid money to go to school. Dude,
sign me up for that all day, all day, so
you'd be in. I think I would. I think that
would have prevented me from skipping.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
And that's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, fifty a week is a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yes, now you got to get that funded and you
got to get that done.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But they'll go that it. Listen, doesn't work for everybody. No, listen.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I know a woman who's got a daughter who was like,
this would never work, This would never work.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Hey, thank you, ma'am, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
As a eighth grader, when I was working on Station Stop,
I got paid forty five dollars for the week and
that was to go to work three days a week.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This is your job, is going to this school.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
Yes, totally take that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It's I will tell you this. The program is not
as as successful as you think.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Really, oh, but it is helpful.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So it's not like they went to kids who are
chronically late or or skip or whatever it is and
they took it and it's like we got a ninety
percent success rate.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It's not anywhere close to that. But they're like, listen.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And by the way, if you don't show up, then
you don't get the money, so it's not like they're
getting paid for not doing what they're supposed to do.
And I don't know, like if it goes two weeks
and you don't show up, I don't know at what
point you get kicked out of that program, like at
some point or you just don't get the money. But
(12:35):
you don't want it to be a case where it's
like I'll go for three weeks and then I got
one hundred and fifty bucks and then next week, I
don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I've got one hundred and fifty I'm good.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So I don't know all the specific details of the program,
but they do see where it helps, and they said, listen,
your hope is number one, they show up and they
go to school. Number two, it teaches them money and
worked for a living. Number three is that all of
a sudden, they were like, listen, there are some people
(13:03):
that spend it on god only knows what right food,
video games, skins for Fortnite, like whatever it is, they said,
but a large majority of them start saving.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It's good and it teaches them how to save. Well,
that's great. News.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I love the program, so maybe they can. I wish
I was getting paid fifty bucks a week to go
to school.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
But for you, and this is maybe what is critical.
It has to be somebody who's teetering around that chronically
absent line. Correct, which you weren't chronic absent, but like
the caller's daughter is an extreme example. You're talking maybe
if she's two times a week, possibly seventy days a year.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
That's they're saying. Eighteen days a year is a problem. Right,
It could affect you in terms of promotion, graduation.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Let's give that. Let's give that girl the better fit
of doubt.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
It's fifty still, yeah, so do you You probably need
to offer this to those people that are around fifteen to.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Twenty because they're on the fence.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Instead of somebody who clearly just doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You still offer it to her. What's the worst case
scenario is you don't pay her, but the.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
Mom said it's not going to work, Okay, Well, then
you don't pay her. Yeah, but then the program doesn't
help someone who may get in the classroom for more
instructional time.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh no, I wouldn't say her instead of somebody who
was on that bubble included with that. No, no, no, yeah, no,
I don't kick somebody out who's like at that.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
What'd you say?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It's eighteen who's at like that? Twenty twenty one day?
Because I want to go after fifty day, but you
may include fifty day, but not at the expense of
twenty day.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
And I did forget, and I often do when calls
come in like that, to remind or instruct using that
for that mother, just stay offline today. Look, yeah, I
need to read the comments. You don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
But by the way, by the way, I'm going to
defend her for a second. I'm going to offend her
for a second. She wasn't at home when she called.
She's riding in the car, so she was on her
way to work. She's not home to make sure that
I don't know what the girl's name is, gets up
and I'm sure she's not choosing to be like, oh,
I got to get out of the house before her
(15:17):
alarm goes off because I can't take it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm sure she's going to work.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
Yes, plenty of people are though in that circumstance.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, my mom was gone before before we went to school,
So she wasn't going to be there to make sure
that we weren't hitchhiking to school or you know, whatever
we were doing. She wasn't going to be there for that.
So I mean, what is she supposed to do? Quit
her job to make sure that Sally gets up?
Speaker 8 (15:41):
No? But did you miss seventy days of school?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
No?
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Okay, yeah, no, listen, I don't know how to fix it.
End the story. I don't know how to fix it now.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
Eighty six forty seven has some in words of encouragement
for her. Yes, what's that started? This is nineteen ninety five,
though I will point that out. I started skipping school
in January, didn't go back until May. Oh my god,
I still graduated.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
God wait, they were out of school from January until May?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
What did you even do to fill your time? Did
their parents know?
Speaker 8 (16:18):
Maybe they were working?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Like that was the other thing, Like it was one
thing to like miss.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But like at some point you still had to answer
to your parents, even even like even if you didn't
feel like there were repercussions, you still had to have
the God forsake and conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And this so my kids knew I'd whipped their ass.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
The said they offer fifty dollars right a week? Yeah,
Alison writes, and I'd love to know how much she missed.
I wouldn't go if it was a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh, you're full of crap. A thousand dollars as a
sixteen year old?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
How about as any age just to get up and
go to school?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Wait, so Allison's gonna tell me as a high school
school if I got a thousand dollars as a high
school student, and Allison isn't going for a thousand dollars
a week, thank god.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
For for thirty six thousand dollars a year? What does
Alison do now other than sit at home in Mouth, Britain?
Speaker 8 (17:10):
Isn't that basically like yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
That's a that's a that's a that's a job. It
is what do you go to school? Nine months? Four
weeks in a month, four times nine?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's that's yes, thirty six thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
What is that.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Was Alison is her last name? Like like like Rockefeller,
Like that's not nearly enough money. I spend more than
that weekly on uh Rose.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Thirty six?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Am?
Speaker 8 (17:40):
I know that isn't what's happening in this program.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
No, it's fifty bucks.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
Did Allison not do the math because she missed all
those classes?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
By the way, if I were if I were a
student at Digital Pioneer right now, I'd.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Be like, ah, I know it for fifty give me
Allison's money. Hi, Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Good morning, Hi?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
What is this?
Speaker 11 (18:02):
This is Jennifer. I'm currently sitting in my classroom right now. Oh,
you're getting to this very interesting conversation.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
You're a you're a teacher? Can I if you don't
mind my asking?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Like what grade level I teach seniors in, like high school?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (18:18):
Sir, Yeah, yeah, don't.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Kids miss? Don't miss all the time, all the time,
all the time.
Speaker 11 (18:25):
And I had a student last year who I didn't
see it all during third quarter and didn't see it
all fourth quarter showed up a week and a half
before graduation asking me what she could do to graduate,
and I responded, create a time machine.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Hey, So what was what was that kid's deal? Why
did they miss third and fourth quarter?
Speaker 11 (18:52):
They just didn't. They just didn't show up. And the
way it works is that after the tenth consecutive day,
you're disenrolled from school. So they're they're at they're very smart.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
You know.
Speaker 11 (19:05):
These kids are smart. They know how to work the system.
So even if they show up for one class within
that time period, they're not just enrolled from school, so
they play the game like they might show up every
other you know, every fifth day for block three, they're
counted for attendance, so they're not dis enrolled. So I
(19:25):
didn't see her at all for two quarters. And the
money thing, you know, I'm all about incentives to get
kids to you know, come to school. The only way
to fix it really is to link attendance to graduation.
Years ago, you used to have to have like seat
time requirements, so you had to be in school a
certain amount of time to graduate. They don't have that anymore.
(19:47):
So they worked the system, especially as seniors.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
So did the kid that you didn't see for third
or fourth quarter? Did that kid graduate?
Speaker 11 (19:56):
Yes? They did. How they graduated.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I work on that system.
Speaker 11 (20:03):
You know. They're they're savvy, you know, and we don't
give these kids enough credit. They you know, you give
them a set of rules and they you tell them this,
this and this, and they'll be able to work around it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I exaluated what do.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I always tell you find me something good and I'll
find I'll find the person who uses it for evil.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
That may not work here, all right, very good? Wait, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 11 (20:23):
I printed out a picture of the flex capacitor and
hang it in my court. I do, I absolutely do.
And the half of them don't know what it is,
more than half because it's like from the eighties, you know.
But it's on my board fourth quarter every year.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
By the way, I'm getting a note from down the hall.
Josh wants to know if you're single and want to
get together.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. So
does it show up for third or fourth cour But
but I don't. How do you graduate? I understood to no, no,
I understand.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
You don't get disenrolled, so you're still enrolled in school,
but you weren't in class.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
You didn't turn anything in, right, can our teacher friend?
Rights don't hit the kids. It used to be that
if you missed a certain number of days, you didn't
get promoted, no matter your grades. But those policies became
about as strong as a sand castle on high tide.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Poetic hi Ellieah the morning Hello, Hello, here we go. Yes,
what can I do for you?
Speaker 11 (21:27):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
How y'all doing today?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Good? Good? Good? What can I do for you? Sir?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
I was hearing you guys talking about who has missed
more than like ten twenty days, And honestly, my senior year,
I don't even know if I had twenty days in attendance, like.
Speaker 10 (21:47):
The teacher said on the last call, Well, I pretty
much learned that if I attended first period, the school
automated phone system never called home saying that I couldn't
come to school right, And then first period gave all
me and my little basically our little skipping crew, plenty
of time to plan our date pretty much. We had
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one guy our senior year who had it was a
Chevy Blazer, and we loaded up like twelve fifteen deep
in his little blazer and we ran all over Laurel, Maryland, Columbia,
Maryland and just had a blast.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
All right, So let me ask you two questions. And
this may be unfair, This may be a little bit unfair.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Would you have gone to school if you were getting
fifty bucks a week to show up?
Speaker 10 (22:35):
Absolutely not, damn.
Speaker 11 (22:41):
See.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
But here's unfair about no, I'll tell you.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
You get me wrong.
Speaker 10 (22:44):
Money money is a very good incentive to have gotten
me to go, but fifty bucks is nothing. I could
have made that on my own.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh so you're like Allison, you wouldn't go for a thousand?
Here'd he go for?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
How much? How much would it have taken.
Speaker 10 (23:02):
If I were to think fairly, because you figure they
got to pay every student this For me personally, I
would go for probably about one hundred bucks a week.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
All right, so double my pay and I'll think about it.
Here's why it's a little unfair. Here's why I was
saying it's a little unfair. Is that Thank you, sir.
You have the knowledge of hindsight. So you go, I
didn't get in any trouble. I graduated, I have a job.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Now. I don't know how successful.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Or not successful that guy is, but he's got a job.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
He's living. So you look back and you go, I
had a blast. I was running around with all my friends.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I didn't need the fifty bucks.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, I mean, listen, the spare money would have been great,
but I got by just fine. So that's where I
think it's a little That's what I meant by unfair. Okay,
but I look at that and go for fifty bucks,
I would have superglued my ass to that seat.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Maybe we're the dumb ones for accepting such a low
ball offer.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
The I mean, that may be it. I still can't get.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Over a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well that I mean she's saying that I can't get over.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Just not showing up for two quarters other than like
that one class, like.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
If you don't know how to play the game.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
No, But even at that point, listen, I was thank
god I had great grades, thank god I was an
ap student and all of that, but I would still
be and I wasn't. I wasn't a perfect student by
any stretch. But even at some point you go like,
I haven't been to school since Christmas break right, Like
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at some point you're like, I'm I am going to
get this or is that like I've already jumped off
the cliff.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
There's no stop at it at this point.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Jay Wrights, just let them graduate. Who cares? In twenty years,
another morning show will use them as fodder when their
kids skip. When their kids skip twice a week,
What year did you graduate from high school? If you
don't mind my asking, twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
If I were to go back and, uh pull down
your records, would I see that you were in terms
of attendance? Were you a good student or bad student?
Not in in terms of grades, but attendance.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Well, my first two years, my attendance was great, and
then I started doing online classes my junior and senior year,
So I wasn't I didn't really have to be in
the school.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, right, right, but obviously because of COVID.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I guess that she's twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh you graduated in twenty nineteen. Yeah, oh yeah, that's
pre COVID. Yeah. I wasn't even sick yet. Hey, what
was the what? Wait? So why were you doing online classes?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It was just an accelerated course. I could graduate sooner.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh so were you like, were you a brainiac?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I don't know about that, but I was definitely ready
to get out.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Of school, right, No, you know what, good for you?
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But if you had to guess, if you had to guess,
did you miss more than ten days a year?
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Probably not?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
No? Is that is that a lot?
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Or not?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Ten days? Is a lot, is it.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I think, so ten days that doesn't seem like that much.
Speaker 7 (01:29):
I mean if you say, well, you're still there for
one hundred and seventy instructional days, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Don't look at it that way.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I mean, obviously there's like vacation days and in like
half days, like all the normal stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But are ten days of like not.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Did you ever did you think you used ten sick days?
Probably not? Probably?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, but it's different now, it's different now true the
like like I mean, listen, I went because I had
to go, and then towards the end of high school,
I went because I knew, like I was living on
my own and there would be huge consequences if I
didn't go, and stuff like dan and I was a brainiac.
But the but yeah, no, but I feel like I
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feel like it was different than than it is now.
Speaker 8 (02:12):
It looks like and it varies across jurisdictions here, but
that ten percent of school days missed is the demarcation line.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Ten percent of school days missed is what do you
mean the demarcation line.
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Of where you could be okay, and now we have
a problem.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So eighteen days, yes, does that seem I.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
Still think that's yes, Okay, I still think ten's a lot.
I disagree because I'm going back. I don't think Marley
ever missed ten ten days in a school year.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
My older one did, My younger one may have. He
may have.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Was he sick a lot?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah? Not not just from COVID.
Speaker 9 (02:53):
But hi, Jelly in the morning, heil it? Hey who's this?
Speaker 7 (03:03):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Hey Joe? What's going on? Dude?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You not much in terms of school when you were
in school, when you were in high school?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Did you have an attendance problem? Or were you good?
Speaker 10 (03:14):
I think I was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
What if you if you had to guess, on average,
how many days a year did you miss?
Speaker 11 (03:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I get I can't remember. It's been too far.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Back, five six did you miss? Were you missing more
than ten fifteen days a year?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Probably not?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now maybe that's maybe, Maybe that really is high.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
I do think though times have changed, Yes, because you see.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah, I think it seems a little high.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
Yeah, No, I agree, I agree, or put to put
illness aside?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Right? Oh, Dennis appointment? Well, I just missed the.
Speaker 8 (03:50):
Whole day, even appointments. I do feel like some parents
are much more willing to just blow off a week
and a week and a half of school for vacation time.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
That's true. That's definitely true. That's definitely true.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
And I don't mean just trying to like beat crowds
at a popular spot for trips. These are just like, oh,
well there's a wedding and we're going to make a
family journey out of it.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, yeah, we have a wedding in Denver, so we're
just going to go spend the week in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah. No, I would agree with that.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
I don't remember that at all from when I was
in school, but I've seen a lot of my kids'
friends do that.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Where they just take the whole week because there's some
engagement or event.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Eighteen still seems like a lot.
Speaker 8 (04:36):
Eighteen is a lot. Yeah, These that's where there's a problem.
Those are dot co websites.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Would I be able to find somebody who whether it
was for like their parents taking them to Denver or
just you know what, I just I hated school and
would skip all the time. Could I find somebody who
would miss let's say, ten twelve, fifteen days a year?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yes, yes, Okay, everybody just told me that's a lot.
Maybe five It is.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
A lot, But that's not to say that you couldn't
get a whole line of people who've done.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
It, like you shouldn't kill someone, but they're a serial murders.
Your point to those that were chronically absent, and it
was a lot we're talking about what almost could be
considered excused absence, is you're right, there are kids who.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Just hate school.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, I mean, listen, I definitely not eighteen days, but
we skipped school absolutely.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
How many days do you think you skipped per year?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I was worse earlier than later.
Speaker 8 (05:36):
Earlier meaning like middle school or freshman and senior year
of high school.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Freshman and sophomore year of high school, you were worse then? Yeah,
because junior and then senior year I lived on my own.
I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I couldn't f that up, even when it was easier.
If I wanted to, I could have just skipped.
Speaker 8 (05:52):
What do you think your worst year was in terms
of skipping?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't even know what to guess, Like, pardon me,
wants to go twenty but there's no way. There's no
way to skip. There's no way, there's no way, like
because like at that point, they would send the truant
officer after you.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
What'd you do it? Maybe once a month?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, or like definitely if we had a fire drill.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
Okay, but how about you get up in the morning
and you never even made it into I intended doors.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, I definitely a handful.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
I called myself in late quite a bit, senior. Yeah,
because I had I had I could pass for my
mom on the phone. Right, Hi, this is Pearl Stupid.
Diane's not feeling well this morning. She's probably gonna be
in around third period. Okay, thanks for calling. And then
I had friends who I can get office passes from. Yeah, right, no, no, oh,
and I had mature handwriting.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Shows up late. We always showed up late.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I mean sometimes when you're hitch hiking to school,
they're not giving you rides.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So yeah, No, we definitely showed up late.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
Doesn't that screen What do you mean showing up? Yeah?
Doesn't that count against you? No, a certain period.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
They know they don't want to leave any child behind.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
This good old days.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
They weren't back then.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Where am I going? Kristen Line three? Hi Elliott in
the morning. Hello, Hi, who's as.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
This is Brandy?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yes, Brandy, what can I do for you?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Times have definitely changed. My daughter literally misses at least
two days a week. Is she actually in her senior
senior year right now?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Of high school? Of high school?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And can I can I ask where she goes to school?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
She goes to Long Reach in Colombia.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Right, And why just out of curiosity? Why why does
she miss two days a week?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
She sucks?
Speaker 5 (07:52):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I don't tell you, not what I was expecting.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
No, she's horrible.
Speaker 12 (08:02):
She's horrible to get. She's just not a morning person.
And like right now before I called you, guys, I'm
like blowing up her phone to make sure she's up.
And she probably will miss today. And she missed on
Monday or yesterday.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh four day weekends. Sweet, yeah, yeah, she'll graduate, she's
a senior.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (08:21):
I mean it's ridiculous, Like Truant's officer don't exist anymore.
I tried calling to see if I could like get
somebody to like get her to school.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Noop, So they don't get they don't care.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Is this a bona? Can I can't tell if you're
angry or not? Is this a bone?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You're just like showing out her hands.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
You got to understand.
Speaker 12 (08:40):
I've been dealing with this since middle school. So I'm
tired and exhausted. So yes, I'm a little bit angry.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Do you do you punish her?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
What can you do? Diane?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I make her phone away? Take her phone away.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
To wake her up?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Hey, bet an alarm clock?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
The what is it the nineteen twenties? Yes, what is
Fred Flintstone going to drive me to school?
Speaker 12 (09:04):
She has like six alarms on her phone that'll go
off and she just won't wake up.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
By the way, it's rich coming from Diane who has
eight alarms at her house.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, am I here?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
By the way, you might want to donate one to Josh.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Let me ask you this. No, no, no, you're but
let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So I was reading so like, chronic absenteeism, right, is
something that everybody wants to try to figure out and
get kids into school and stuff like that. So there
is a school hold on what is the name of it,
I'll tell you, don't tell me.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Digital Pioneers Academy in DC.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
They're trying to figure out how to deal with chronic absenteeism.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And they're not the first school to do this.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
By the way, they cite schools in New Orleans that
have done it. I'm scanned Indianapolis has done it. Would
your daughter get up and go if she got paid
fifty bucks a week to go to school?
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Probably not?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Like I said, Oh, I thought you.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Were going to say yes.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Damn what's her allowance?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
She doesn't even she doesn't get an allowance. You don't
go to school, you don't get no money. I don't
know what to tell you. You'd get a job.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So now so so, so that's a program.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
There's two programs that this Digital Pioneers Academy is going
to do. And again it's not it's it's it's not
a new idea. It's not a new thought. They are
they are copying other schools and they're trying to see
if they have some success, right and the so the
either you opt in, obviously, and some students get fifty
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dollars a week to go to show up at school,
and then some get like just gift cards and stuff.
Not the it may not be fifty dollars a week,
but it is Amazon gift cards or just gift cards
to use for I don't know if it's for like
like like chipper and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But they're essentially paid money to go to school. Dude,
sign me up for that all day, all day, so
you'd be in. I think I would. I think that
would have prevented me from skipping.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
And that's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, fifty a week is a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yes, now you got to get that funded and you
got to get that done.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But they'll go that it. Listen, doesn't work for everybody. No, listen.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I know a woman who's got a daughter who was like,
this would never work, This would never work.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Hey, thank you, ma'am, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
As a eighth grader, when I was working on Station Stop,
I got paid forty five dollars for the week and
that was to go to work three days a week.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This is your job, is going to this school.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
Yes, totally take that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It's I will tell you this. The program is not
as as successful as you think.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Really, oh, but it is helpful.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
So it's not like they went to kids who are
chronically late or or skip or whatever it is and
they took it and it's like we got a ninety
percent success rate.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It's not anywhere close to that. But they're like, listen.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And by the way, if you don't show up, then
you don't get the money, so it's not like they're
getting paid for not doing what they're supposed to do.
And I don't know, like if it goes two weeks
and you don't show up, I don't know at what
point you get kicked out of that program, like at
some point or you just don't get the money. But
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you don't want it to be a case where it's
like I'll go for three weeks and then I got
one hundred and fifty bucks and then next week, I
don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I've got one hundred and fifty I'm good.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So I don't know all the specific details of the program,
but they do see where it helps, and they said, listen,
your hope is number one, they show up and they
go to school. Number two, it teaches them money and
worked for a living. Number three is that all of
a sudden, they were like, listen, there are some people
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that spend it on god only knows what right food,
video games, skins for Fortnite, like whatever it is, they said,
but a large majority of them start saving.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It's good and it teaches them how to save. Well,
that's great. News.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I love the program, so maybe they can. I wish
I was getting paid fifty bucks a week to go
to school.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
But for you, and this is maybe what is critical.
It has to be somebody who's teetering around that chronically
absent line. Correct, which you weren't chronic absent, but like
the caller's daughter is an extreme example. You're talking maybe
if she's two times a week, possibly seventy days a year.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
That's they're saying. Eighteen days a year is a problem. Right,
It could affect you in terms of promotion, graduation.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Let's give that. Let's give that girl the better fit
of doubt.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
It's fifty still, yeah, so do you You probably need
to offer this to those people that are around fifteen to.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Twenty because they're on the fence.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Instead of somebody who clearly just doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You still offer it to her. What's the worst case
scenario is you don't pay her, but the.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
Mom said it's not going to work, Okay, Well, then
you don't pay her. Yeah, but then the program doesn't
help someone who may get in the classroom for more
instructional time.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh no, I wouldn't say her instead of somebody who
was on that bubble included with that. No, no, no, yeah, no,
I don't kick somebody out who's like at that.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
What'd you say?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It's eighteen who's at like that? Twenty twenty one day?
Because I want to go after fifty day, but you
may include fifty day, but not at the expense of
twenty day.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
And I did forget, and I often do when calls
come in like that, to remind or instruct using that
for that mother, just stay offline today. Look, yeah, I
need to read the comments. You don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
But by the way, by the way, I'm going to
defend her for a second. I'm going to offend her
for a second. She wasn't at home when she called.
She's riding in the car, so she was on her
way to work. She's not home to make sure that
I don't know what the girl's name is, gets up
and I'm sure she's not choosing to be like, oh,
I got to get out of the house before her
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alarm goes off because I can't take it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm sure she's going to work.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
Yes, plenty of people are though in that circumstance.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, my mom was gone before before we went to school,
So she wasn't going to be there to make sure
that we weren't hitchhiking to school or you know, whatever
we were doing. She wasn't going to be there for that.
So I mean, what is she supposed to do? Quit
her job to make sure that Sally gets up?
Speaker 8 (15:41):
No? But did you miss seventy days of school?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
No?
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Okay, yeah, no, listen, I don't know how to fix it.
End the story. I don't know how to fix it now.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
Eighty six forty seven has some in words of encouragement
for her. Yes, what's that started? This is nineteen ninety five,
though I will point that out. I started skipping school
in January, didn't go back until May. Oh my god,
I still graduated.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
God wait, they were out of school from January until May?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
What did you even do to fill your time? Did
their parents know?
Speaker 8 (16:18):
Maybe they were working?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Like that was the other thing, Like it was one
thing to like miss.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But like at some point you still had to answer
to your parents, even even like even if you didn't
feel like there were repercussions, you still had to have
the God forsake and conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
And this so my kids knew I'd whipped their ass.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
The said they offer fifty dollars right a week? Yeah,
Alison writes, and I'd love to know how much she missed.
I wouldn't go if it was a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh, you're full of crap. A thousand dollars as a
sixteen year old?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
How about as any age just to get up and
go to school?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Wait, so Allison's gonna tell me as a high school
school if I got a thousand dollars as a high
school student, and Allison isn't going for a thousand dollars
a week, thank god.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
For for thirty six thousand dollars a year? What does
Alison do now other than sit at home in Mouth, Britain?
Speaker 8 (17:10):
Isn't that basically like yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
That's a that's a that's a that's a job. It
is what do you go to school? Nine months? Four
weeks in a month, four times nine?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's that's yes, thirty six thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
What is that.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Was Alison is her last name? Like like like Rockefeller,
Like that's not nearly enough money. I spend more than
that weekly on uh Rose.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Thirty six?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Am?
Speaker 8 (17:40):
I know that isn't what's happening in this program.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
No, it's fifty bucks.
Speaker 8 (17:44):
Did Allison not do the math because she missed all
those classes?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
By the way, if I were if I were a
student at Digital Pioneer right now, I'd.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Be like, ah, I know it for fifty give me
Allison's money. Hi, Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Good morning, Hi?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
What is this?
Speaker 11 (18:02):
This is Jennifer. I'm currently sitting in my classroom right now. Oh,
you're getting to this very interesting conversation.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
You're a you're a teacher? Can I if you don't
mind my asking?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Like what grade level I teach seniors in, like high school?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (18:18):
Sir, Yeah, yeah, don't.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Kids miss? Don't miss all the time, all the time,
all the time.
Speaker 11 (18:25):
And I had a student last year who I didn't
see it all during third quarter and didn't see it
all fourth quarter showed up a week and a half
before graduation asking me what she could do to graduate,
and I responded, create a time machine.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Hey, So what was what was that kid's deal? Why
did they miss third and fourth quarter?
Speaker 11 (18:52):
They just didn't. They just didn't show up. And the
way it works is that after the tenth consecutive day,
you're disenrolled from school. So they're they're at they're very smart.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
You know.
Speaker 11 (19:05):
These kids are smart. They know how to work the system.
So even if they show up for one class within
that time period, they're not just enrolled from school, so
they play the game like they might show up every
other you know, every fifth day for block three, they're
counted for attendance, so they're not dis enrolled. So I
(19:25):
didn't see her at all for two quarters. And the
money thing, you know, I'm all about incentives to get
kids to you know, come to school. The only way
to fix it really is to link attendance to graduation.
Years ago, you used to have to have like seat
time requirements, so you had to be in school a
certain amount of time to graduate. They don't have that anymore.
(19:47):
So they worked the system, especially as seniors.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
So did the kid that you didn't see for third
or fourth quarter? Did that kid graduate?
Speaker 11 (19:56):
Yes? They did. How they graduated.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
I work on that system.
Speaker 11 (20:03):
You know. They're they're savvy, you know, and we don't
give these kids enough credit. They you know, you give
them a set of rules and they you tell them this,
this and this, and they'll be able to work around it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I exaluated what do.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
I always tell you find me something good and I'll
find I'll find the person who uses it for evil.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
That may not work here, all right, very good? Wait, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 11 (20:23):
I printed out a picture of the flex capacitor and
hang it in my court. I do, I absolutely do.
And the half of them don't know what it is,
more than half because it's like from the eighties, you know.
But it's on my board fourth quarter every year.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
By the way, I'm getting a note from down the hall.
Josh wants to know if you're single and want to
get together.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. So
does it show up for third or fourth cour But
but I don't. How do you graduate? I understood to no, no,
I understand.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
You don't get disenrolled, so you're still enrolled in school,
but you weren't in class.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
You didn't turn anything in, right, can our teacher friend?
Rights don't hit the kids. It used to be that
if you missed a certain number of days, you didn't
get promoted, no matter your grades. But those policies became
about as strong as a sand castle on high tide.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Poetic hi Ellieah the morning Hello, Hello, here we go. Yes,
what can I do for you?
Speaker 11 (21:27):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
How y'all doing today?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Good? Good? Good? What can I do for you? Sir?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:32):
I was hearing you guys talking about who has missed
more than like ten twenty days, And honestly, my senior year,
I don't even know if I had twenty days in attendance, like.
Speaker 10 (21:47):
The teacher said on the last call, Well, I pretty
much learned that if I attended first period, the school
automated phone system never called home saying that I couldn't
come to school right, And then first period gave all
me and my little basically our little skipping crew, plenty
of time to plan our date pretty much. We had
(22:10):
one guy our senior year who had it was a
Chevy Blazer, and we loaded up like twelve fifteen deep
in his little blazer and we ran all over Laurel, Maryland, Columbia,
Maryland and just had a blast.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
All right, So let me ask you two questions. And
this may be unfair, This may be a little bit unfair.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Would you have gone to school if you were getting
fifty bucks a week to show up?
Speaker 10 (22:35):
Absolutely not, damn.
Speaker 11 (22:41):
See.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
But here's unfair about no, I'll tell you.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
You get me wrong.
Speaker 10 (22:44):
Money money is a very good incentive to have gotten
me to go, but fifty bucks is nothing. I could
have made that on my own.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh so you're like Allison, you wouldn't go for a thousand?
Here'd he go for?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
How much? How much would it have taken.
Speaker 10 (23:02):
If I were to think fairly, because you figure they
got to pay every student this For me personally, I
would go for probably about one hundred bucks a week.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
All right, so double my pay and I'll think about it.
Here's why it's a little unfair. Here's why I was
saying it's a little unfair. Is that Thank you, sir.
You have the knowledge of hindsight. So you go, I
didn't get in any trouble. I graduated, I have a job.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Now. I don't know how successful.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Or not successful that guy is, but he's got a job.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
He's living. So you look back and you go, I
had a blast. I was running around with all my friends.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I didn't need the fifty bucks.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, I mean, listen, the spare money would have been great,
but I got by just fine. So that's where I
think it's a little That's what I meant by unfair. Okay,
but I look at that and go for fifty bucks,
I would have superglued my ass to that seat.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Maybe we're the dumb ones for accepting such a low
ball offer.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
The I mean, that may be it. I still can't get.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Over a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well that I mean she's saying that I can't get over.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Just not showing up for two quarters other than like
that one class, like.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
If you don't know how to play the game.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
No, But even at that point, listen, I was thank
god I had great grades, thank god I was an
ap student and all of that, but I would still
be and I wasn't. I wasn't a perfect student by
any stretch. But even at some point you go like,
I haven't been to school since Christmas break right, Like
(24:34):
at some point you're like, I'm I am going to
get this or is that like I've already jumped off
the cliff.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
There's no stop at it at this point.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Jay Wrights, just let them graduate. Who cares? In twenty years,
another morning show will use them as fodder when their
kids skip. When their kids skip twice a week,
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