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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So there was a big fire that was burning in Colorado,
a wildfire, the Bucktail fire.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Does that sound familiar to you?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
No, the Bucktail fire started August first in I don't
know if I'm saying this right. Nukla knuckla Colorado.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Knuckla.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well that's how it's spelled, all right, knuckla, nukla. I
don't know what it is. It's in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's about three hundred and fifty miles west of Denver,
destroyed more than seventy two hundred acres of private and
national forest land. It burned down one house before it
was finally brought under control. A sixty three year old
man is stands accused of starting the wildfire when he
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was trying to do something and this I've never heard of.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So his name is not Jason Hobby. No, wasn't that
a Colorado fire? Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It was.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
It was.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I thought it was going to be another No, same name,
no firestarter.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
No, no, No. The guy's name is Brent Scott Garber.
I don't know the name, you know what I mean? Like,
he's not famous, but.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
He was doing something he was never heard of as
an act or as a means for a fire to
start as a.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Means for a fire to start. I guess I've heard
of it. I've never heard of anybody doing this act.
I also and once I, once I get you to
the point where this happens, I didn't know that you
could do it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Here's what I mean by that.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Scott Garber went out into kind of this little woodsy
area where he thought it was relatively clear, and he
kind of dug a small, smallish hole okay, not not
like to pant like a like like the size of
like maybe a really small fire pit, but just ug
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a hole.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And he went there to cremate his dog.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
The dog wasn't cremated. He was going to do the cremation.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
He was not burying ashes. He was cremating the dog.
Oh which part have you not heard of? Well? That part?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, okay, Oh, there's there's another layer coming. There's another
layer coming. Which makes it even weirder because in my
head I was like, you know what, I've never heard
of anybody doing that.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I've never heard of anybody taking.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Their novet does that for you and and cream any
But in my head, I don't know what nucleas like.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I have no idea what.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's like, but I also know that like like sometimes
like way out in like farm country or whatever, people
put their own animals down. I could never do that,
but I know it happened that.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And then like they'll they'll bury them on their proper
area by.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
A tree, yeah or whatever. So in my head, no,
I've never heard of anybody doing that. But I also
don't know. Nuklea could be like Styxxville. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Anyway, So he's cremating his dog. So the dog's burning
and he had to use like lighter fluid or some
some kind of accelerant to get it going. He took
the can and he threw the can into the fire
because he was done. That caused the explosion of the
can that starts the wildfire that burns down seventy two
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hundred acres somebody's house and the whole thing. Okay, so
number one, let's focus on the odd part.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Cremating his own dog.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Now, when I said, at first, I was like, Okay,
I've never heard of anybody doing that, but maybe that's
how they do it. There here's the weirder part. If
you buy into that theory that he was cremating the
dog because he's like way out in Stycksville. Do you
think either the dog passed away in natural causes where
the dog was sick and he put the dog down himself.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Nope, the dog was sick.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
He took the dog to a vet, the vet put
the dog down to sleep.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay, and then he took the dog after the dog
was already dead.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
How do you do that?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I've never been offered that option. Oh, so you don't
believe the cremation story. No, I do. I do believe
the cremation story. I guess. I mean, I'm taking him
at his word.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But are you allowed to get your dog put to
sleep and then take it home?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I feel like we have. I think we've talked about
this before.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You put the dog to sleep and then you carry
it out.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Honestly, we've discussed this. I believe, not cremating your own dog,
we've never talked about that. I can't even get to
take a cremation.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So if I if I when I put Deuce down, well,
when Jackie did, we could have said we'll carry him
out because we want to go cremate him in the backyard.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You could do that. I think that has come up
and people have been able to claim the obviously lifeless body.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Now, if you told me they come to your house
and do it and then they leave that, I might
be a little more open minded to like, aren't there
services that will do that?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, they'll come to your house and do that.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, because they a lot of times it's just a
calmer environment for the pet.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, it's not a calmer environment for me. That'll never
happen in a segull house. You know, I don't like death.
And then I got a dead dog laying there.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So but you know he didn't use one of those services.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, it says he took the dog to the vet
and the and then that he had taken the dog
to the vet to be euthanized, right, and then he
took it to be cremated. The cremated thing, I've never
heard of. I've never heard of anybody burn it up.
The burning up the dog in the backyard, goodness. I
also have never heard of you being able to leave
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the facility. And I know you said we've talked about it.
I have no memory of that. Again, tell me that
they could, like, well, if they come to your house
to put the dog down.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Don't they leave with it?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I assume, so you know what.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I never want a dead a dead animal in my house.
I mean, obviously, if it's a spider, I don't care,
but like I don't want a Jackie.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I can kill spiders a big man. I'm not afraid
of it. I just don't want a dead creature. No,
I can't. No, I can't.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I can't, I can't, I cannot have.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I wouldn't be able.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I've told you that, if if, if, if God forbid,
something happened to one.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Of my dogs died in the house.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I hope Coastguard Kurt is somewhere close because he's coming
to get him.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
But yeah, no, I do feel like, and this goes
back aways, people were able to take their dogs home
from the vet. Again, I can't stress enough. I've never
heard of the cremation, the home cremation, but you can
take You could take them home if you didn't want
to shoot the dog and you just wanted it to
be euthanized by a trained professional, you could take it
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for burying yourself at your own house, and apparently maybe
cremating too. You can't cremate, oh, so is this is
cremation illegal that I don't know? It feels like it
should be yes, because you can definitely bury yourself, right,
but I can't remember is it? Is it county code?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
No, no, no, it's no. I'm being serious. No, Well, Arling,
did is gonna let it?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Arling?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Did barely let you like walk on a sidewalk.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But if you're gonna let you burn an animal.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
If you've got like a big piece of land, like
way out like Louden or something, right, you're wondering if
is is it legal? Or do like people do it
even though it is legal.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I have a I have a I have a really
big yard. I'm I'm I'm on a tenth of an acre.
I can't there are there's no way Arlington County says
that I could bury up my dog in the backyard.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I don't know what it's going to be county to county.
But everyone's checking in said they they've taken the dog
from the vet to bury themselves. Oh, you just throw
it in the car. But that's why we need to
focus on the cremation created no one, no one has
no one, no cat, It could be any animal. The
no it's got to be domesticated. Yeah, I said cat.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh I thought you said, or any animal like you
shoot a raccoon and cook it up.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I don't care. How about they're most popular rabbits yesterday
I didn't count them as pets. Today I do. You
can't just set them on fire. That's awful. Could you
cremate your own animal?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Absolutely not. No, I don't mean does Montgomery County allow
for no? No, no, I know what you're saying. Yeah
I could. I don't think I could. Do you put
him in like a special sack. First, Well, I know.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I only know one person that's done, and he just
did it in a hole.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Okay, all these people, we know you took it home
from the vet, brought it home to bury, brought to
the farm to burry. Did this as a child's eye?
We know, we know that is settled.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Who has creamed, cremated, And thank you, by the way,
thank you for clearing it up, because I didn't even
know you could do that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So thank you for clearing it up. Oh now, ros says,
I bet the owner lied to the vet and said
he wanted to bury on his own property. So if
I said to the vet, hey, I'm just going to
take this home and cremate.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It takes you at your word.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well you think that they know, Well, there goes another
one and tell me he's gonna bury it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And I know that bitch gonna burn.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That one seems shady.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The no, No, I don't think anybody told the vet
I'm gonna take it home and cook it.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Okay, everyone's treating you like your city folk. I am
city fault. You can bury your own pet. It's not
in Arlington. Well you've said that, but yeah, everyone, thank you,
thank you. Plenty of stories, plenty of stories.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Okay, so I'm willing to accept that as the case.
Get me the cremation. Yeah, and I got I got
fifty million people on hold. Most of them are probably
telling me I'm stupid. Of course you could take it home.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Line fo Hi, Elliot.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
In the morning, Good morning, Ellie, how are you?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I am? Well?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Who's this?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
This is Allison from camp?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
How are you? Oh good? How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Chad's coming down good.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Chad will be there in this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
So I know it's gonna call because it's actually gorys thought.
I'm out of breath because we have three huge oaks
in the backyard and I'm picking up all the branches.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh, sorry about that anyway, Yeah, what can I What
can I do for you?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Allison?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
So, our last dog, he was fifteen, so he had
like a heart murmur and all that jazz, and we
had to put him down. He was just on too
many medications. He couldn't see, he couldn't hold food, and
he couldn't hold his bladder all that. So there's actually
a company had a silver spring that'll actually come to
your house and euthanize your dog so that it's in
like a comfortable environment during your time. They don't rush it.
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So you can actually have your dog euthanize in your
own house.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, that I've heard of. That I've heard of for sure.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Yes, so you don't have to, like you decide what
you do with the remains.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, but you can't cremate them, Like I can't walk
outside in the backyard and cremate my dog.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Like I thought this is America, you could cremate your
own dog.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Yeah, you can bury it in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Okay, yes, you could bury it hole, but you're you're
going to you're going to start a fire in the
backyard and watch your dog burn up and then bury
the ashes.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Alison, Yeah, but I have a burn I have a
burn barrel in the backyard for sticks. Why couldn't I
stick the dogs remains in there and burn him with sticks?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Sticks? Dogs?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Don't you do?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Amazon?
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Boxes?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Wow? How many?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Save you? Hundreds of dollars?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And god? Okay, very good, thank you, thank you. Alison.
Say hi to Chad when you see him later.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Hung justin No way, no way.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Now you know he's not a dog guy. I don't care.
He's a cat.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
He's a Do you kill the kid he's at Burnham?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yes, that's what this is gonna show.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
He did it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We cremated our own cat after the vet put him
to sleep. No way? Yes, Can I ask a question?
Can I ask a question? I have a lot of them?
Now I have a lot of them. It looks really stunned. Yeah,
what's bothering you?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Private message? Justin We're done, don't anymore?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Wait? Why? But okay, okay, I have some questions.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Number one, Oh my god, I've got chills.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Where did he do it? Okay? Number one? Number two?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Since fire picked?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Hey, all the stinks had already burned. There was room,
no no, So Number one, where did hung Justin?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Do it? Number two? Have you ever set your hair
on fire? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And it stinks?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
What does that smell like? Or do like? If I
burn dog for cat for does it not smell?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
It smells?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You know that?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yes? How do you know?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Cat tail and a candle?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh well, then there you go, by the way. That's
all Justin did.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And then it got the whole cat and it was
dead Justin.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So we're waiting on those answers.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
He he cremated his own animal.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Justin's a witch y'all.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
What would you sorry, war luck? Would you feel would
you feel differently if some what.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
If it auto corrected and it was Actually we celebrated
our own cat after the vet put him to sleep
and not cremated. And he's just realized the mistake.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Hi Joy in the morning.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Hey, I don't want to say my neighbor what county
I worked for, but I'm a fire investigator and this
in the last eleven years, that's in this three times
in our jurisdiction where they couldn't either pay for the cremation.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Bills or the dog died.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
And it was so fat, they couldn't carry it outside,
so they get outside, didn't make it all the way,
and then burn their house down.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wait a minute, people have burned their So you've seen
three cases of cremation or three cases where people burn
their house down cremating the animal.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It was three three times their house is caught on
fire because they're cremating their animals.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh my god, Oh my god. Can I and I
know you just eleven years, I know you said that
you won't give the jurisdiction. Will you give me?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Will you give me the state?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, I'm in Virginia, so I can tell you the walls.
In Virginia. You can actually cremate if you live in
an agricultural area and you are allowed to cremate your
like let's say cows or horses, because you know where's
it going to go. If you have companies that have
mobile incinerators where they'll bring it to your farm and
it's load them up, burn them and then obviously dump
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the ashes. So there are actual legal companies that will
do that. And if you have an ag area, you
were allowed to do it. But like someone where like
you live, or or a highly residential area, you need
like one hundred and fifty feet by one hundred and
fifty feet of a burn distance, because the fat of
the animal is what actually is the most ignitable. So
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once the body starts burning, whether it's human or an animal,
it actually liquidizes and then turns into an ignitable liquid
and then it just keeps on going. That's how it
gets so hot.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Well, how about that my blubber is uh that muffin
top I have, that's a flammable liquidammable.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I mean whale oil. Whale oil is you know, that's
how they cares, That's how they make it. It's blubber,
it's fat.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Wow. All right, very good, Very good? Am I in
a nag area? No?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
No, no, hey, But I do have a question though,
what Diane.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I was gonna ask if Justin had had given us
a follow up too busy drawing like pentagrams or something?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
He has not?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And by the way, can I can I just just
go over something that firefighter just said where fire investigator
said it wasn't. Three people cremated their animals. Three people
burned their houses down.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Cremating their animals. Jesus oops.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Because one dog was so fat they had to drag
it out.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So are we we're willing to now accept the story
from the Colorado I think so? Yeah, okay, because Bianca
had a theory. Maybe he started digging a hole to
bury and realized it was going to be too hard,
so he decided they just burned it. It's like the
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nay Borgetsi bit. Digging holes is hard. It's like the
most important hole you'll ever dig is for a body,
and they're always shallow graves because it's hard to dig
a hole.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Right, I just I know the animals dead and it
can't feel anything. I just can't imagine setting it on fie.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Now, well, you do sort of imagine that when you
pay for a cremation, like my dad. You personally, yes,
I don't want to imagine lighting the match.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
No, or watching the body burn Like, yes, my dad
was cremated, but I don't imagine him laying on the
conveyor belt with flames coming.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Off of him.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
No, no, no, just justin.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Did he watch it? Just maybe he's trying to call
Jesus Christ because you as a question, the delays kicked in.
You've had time to hear these any responses, Hi Elliott
in the morning, Hi, this Mace yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Michelson, Southern Maryland. I Actually we didn't end up having
to put our animal down, thank god. But we had
paid for and had the option to do it, and
they told us we could take it home. They you
like a bag to take it home with if you
want to.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
We were going to have a cremated. So we didn't
do it, but.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Not at that house.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
I've also.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Well I've also had one youth and ice at the
house and they just leave the body here and we
buried it out back.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Okay, but I couldn't even do that, but you you
At no point did you think I'm gonna take it
out back and cremate it? No?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
No, I couldn't do that. I mean bury it.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Yeah, that was hard enough.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
But yeah, no, I couldn't set it on fire. I'm
with you on that.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Also when they cremate a like if I don't know
how my dogs were cremated. But isn't that a a
thank you, ma'am? Isn't that a really high high high
high powered oven. Yeah it's very hot. No, No, like
very hot is a pizza oven?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
This thing is screaming hot?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Are you saying that? Because in your mind. It's like
that's a long process if you're just doing like the
match in the fire pit.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yes, yeah, it says it's double a pizza ovens heat.
So you're talking then fifteen hundred degrees easily? And what
it is? Mobile incinerators? Am I going to see one
one day and just think someone's having their driveway resurfaced?
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
What does that look like? I have no idea to me.
It's like a wood chipper, but it's fire.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Like.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
There's just that conveyor belt that puts it in and
then whoop.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It goes right in. Oh yeah, there you go. And
is it only for animals? What are you doing in it?
What if a person dies at home?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Tell legality there? Why you can't cremate a person?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I call the medical examiner, they come out, they tag
it done.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Let it if even if that's your gig, you're not
doing it at your house.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
A lot of people like pets more than people. They
get to do it where I'm sorry, where am I going?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Line five?
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Elliott the morning?
Speaker 9 (21:02):
Hey, good morning Elliott.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Hey who's this?
Speaker 9 (21:04):
We're uh? This is Dave from the Northern Neck.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes, sir, so where I grew up.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
We were right next door to a pet cemetery and crematorium.
And you wonder what the smell is like. It's the
smell you will never forget.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
I bet they hated everything. It is that the wind
was blowing the wrong direction. She was literally the next
property up the road from us, and it was only,
you know, maybe one hundred hundred and fifty yards away.
And you knew when you started seeing smoke coming out
of that stack that if that wind shifted, it was atrocious.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Bet you didn't host a lot of the backyard barbecues.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
No, no, we really didn't.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
And growing up, you know, they the adults always used
to scare us because we knew there were pets buried
there as well as a whole cemetery, right and you
know they used to you know, in the movie Pet
Cemetery came out.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Yeah, it was Yeah, it's a craft night right there.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, I bet, I bet. All right, dude, I appreciate it.
Thank you, my friend, thank you got it.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He's trying to call but can't get through. However, he
has given the location. It was his girlfriend's aunt's house,
so it was not his own nor his families, but
it doesn't matter. I don't care where you did it.
You did it and it was an outdoor furnace. So
he did it in a fireplace, yeah, not like a
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patio heater.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Did it in the old green egg chimenea.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
It was chilly. You know, they just burned through the
woods so fast. Damn solo stove. Isn't that your biggest
complain about those? Yeah, they do solo stove goes through
wood quick. I haven't tried putting cats on there, though
again his was a cat, not a dog. Right by
the way, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yes, mh, So there you go. Did it stink doesn't say?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Now are people who have done I guess some of
these places, as we've heard, do allow you to be
on site for the actual cremation.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Those people that have done that seem to have regretted it.
Really that it's traumatic.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I would think listen, I would think just having an
animal die in your house is traumatic.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I don't know that I recover from that. But is
that the you know, it's not going to make me,
oh what what?
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I know?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
What will make me forget about this? Watch what I
do out back?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
But it's because it's your place. Or your girlfriend's or
your girlfriend's ant's house. Hey, Jack, give me a starter log,
would you? Is there a sense of peace versus the
random business that you're paying to do it? I'm sure
for some people there is. For me, Oh for me, no,
absolutely not, I'm saying. Versus attending it at the crematorium
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and doing it where you're present at your.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
House, No, you drop it off and you leave, so
you you still don't want to if you had to
choose where you're going to be up front and.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Personal with what's going on.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Oh, definitely at a at a crematorium. You'd still rather
be done by the professionals. Absolutely, Okay, yeah, absolutely. I
mean I'm not going to see I'm we have so
many tears in my eyes. That'd be my luck. I'd
be crying so much it keeps putting the fire out.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I said it was funny.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I've been trying to cook this animal for thirty five hours.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I had posted something about this, but the kids are
asking about fort necessity from history class at dinner, which
got me to talking about the Hamilton cast recording. So
I was when I was playing stuff for them, and
I started crying and it was then we went to
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found Tonight the mashup with Ben Platt and Linn Mail Miranda,
and then we went over to Other to the Greatest Showmen.
I mean it was we did a lot of stuff.
Your kid have call of duty. Listen, I'm trying. It's
about the quality time at the length of time. So
they were like, are you crying? I said, yeah, this
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stuff's isn't the lyrics. It's meaningful, it's special. And then
I remembered that on Monday night I cried when Jay
Usso won the Intercontinental Championship. So I said, could you
have a more well rounded father? No, so appreciate what
I bring to this family. But yes, when we're talking
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about the cremation or even the youthsing of the animal,
it's horrible. Well, it's very sad. It's very sad.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
What gives me closure though? What watching the tail go up?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Like once that, once the tail goes up, then you're like, yeah,
now we're getting somewhere.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
It'd be horrible. Oh a little context though from hung
justin remember I worked at a funeral home. Lah I
forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So it's like it's like a chef cooking at home,
which none of them do
So there was a big fire that was burning in Colorado,
a wildfire, the Bucktail fire.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Does that sound familiar to you?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
No, the Bucktail fire started August first in I don't
know if I'm saying this right. Nukla knuckla Colorado.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Knuckla.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well that's how it's spelled, all right, knuckla, nukla. I
don't know what it is. It's in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's about three hundred and fifty miles west of Denver,
destroyed more than seventy two hundred acres of private and
national forest land. It burned down one house before it
was finally brought under control. A sixty three year old
man is stands accused of starting the wildfire when he
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was trying to do something and this I've never heard of.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So his name is not Jason Hobby. No, wasn't that
a Colorado fire? Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It was.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
It was.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I thought it was going to be another No, same name,
no firestarter.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
No, no, No. The guy's name is Brent Scott Garber.
I don't know the name, you know what I mean? Like,
he's not famous, but.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
He was doing something he was never heard of as
an act or as a means for a fire to
start as a.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Means for a fire to start. I guess I've heard
of it. I've never heard of anybody doing this act.
I also and once I, once I get you to
the point where this happens, I didn't know that you
could do it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Here's what I mean by that.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Scott Garber went out into kind of this little woodsy
area where he thought it was relatively clear, and he
kind of dug a small, smallish hole okay, not not
like to pant like a like like the size of
like maybe a really small fire pit, but just ug
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a hole.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And he went there to cremate his dog.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
The dog wasn't cremated. He was going to do the cremation.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
He was not burying ashes. He was cremating the dog.
Oh which part have you not heard of? Well? That part?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, okay, Oh, there's there's another layer coming. There's another
layer coming. Which makes it even weirder because in my
head I was like, you know what, I've never heard
of anybody doing that.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I've never heard of anybody taking.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Their novet does that for you and and cream any
But in my head, I don't know what nucleas like.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I have no idea what.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's like, but I also know that like like sometimes
like way out in like farm country or whatever, people
put their own animals down. I could never do that,
but I know it happened that.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And then like they'll they'll bury them on their proper
area by.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
A tree, yeah or whatever. So in my head, no,
I've never heard of anybody doing that. But I also
don't know. Nuklea could be like Styxxville. I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Anyway, So he's cremating his dog. So the dog's burning
and he had to use like lighter fluid or some
some kind of accelerant to get it going. He took
the can and he threw the can into the fire
because he was done. That caused the explosion of the
can that starts the wildfire that burns down seventy two
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hundred acres somebody's house and the whole thing. Okay, so
number one, let's focus on the odd part.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Cremating his own dog.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Now, when I said, at first, I was like, Okay,
I've never heard of anybody doing that, but maybe that's
how they do it. There here's the weirder part. If
you buy into that theory that he was cremating the
dog because he's like way out in Stycksville. Do you
think either the dog passed away in natural causes where
the dog was sick and he put the dog down himself.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Nope, the dog was sick.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
He took the dog to a vet, the vet put
the dog down to sleep.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay, and then he took the dog after the dog
was already dead.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
How do you do that?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I've never been offered that option. Oh, so you don't
believe the cremation story. No, I do. I do believe
the cremation story. I guess. I mean, I'm taking him
at his word.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But are you allowed to get your dog put to
sleep and then take it home?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I feel like we have. I think we've talked about
this before.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
You put the dog to sleep and then you carry
it out.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Honestly, we've discussed this. I believe, not cremating your own dog,
we've never talked about that. I can't even get to
take a cremation.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So if I if I when I put Deuce down, well,
when Jackie did, we could have said we'll carry him
out because we want to go cremate him in the backyard.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You could do that. I think that has come up
and people have been able to claim the obviously lifeless body.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Now, if you told me they come to your house
and do it and then they leave that, I might
be a little more open minded to like, aren't there
services that will do that?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yes, they'll come to your house and do that.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, because they a lot of times it's just a
calmer environment for the pet.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, it's not a calmer environment for me. That'll never
happen in a segull house. You know, I don't like death.
And then I got a dead dog laying there.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So but you know he didn't use one of those services.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, it says he took the dog to the vet
and the and then that he had taken the dog
to the vet to be euthanized, right, and then he
took it to be cremated. The cremated thing, I've never
heard of. I've never heard of anybody burn it up.
The burning up the dog in the backyard, goodness. I
also have never heard of you being able to leave
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the facility. And I know you said we've talked about it.
I have no memory of that. Again, tell me that
they could, like, well, if they come to your house
to put the dog down.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Don't they leave with it?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I assume, so you know what.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I never want a dead a dead animal in my house.
I mean, obviously, if it's a spider, I don't care,
but like I don't want a Jackie.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I can kill spiders a big man. I'm not afraid
of it. I just don't want a dead creature. No,
I can't. No, I can't.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I can't, I can't, I cannot have.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I wouldn't be able.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I've told you that, if if, if, if God forbid,
something happened to one.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Of my dogs died in the house.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I hope Coastguard Kurt is somewhere close because he's coming
to get him.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
But yeah, no, I do feel like, and this goes
back aways, people were able to take their dogs home
from the vet. Again, I can't stress enough. I've never
heard of the cremation, the home cremation, but you can
take You could take them home if you didn't want
to shoot the dog and you just wanted it to
be euthanized by a trained professional, you could take it
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for burying yourself at your own house, and apparently maybe
cremating too. You can't cremate, oh, so is this is
cremation illegal that I don't know? It feels like it
should be yes, because you can definitely bury yourself, right,
but I can't remember is it? Is it county code?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
No, no, no, it's no. I'm being serious. No, Well, Arling,
did is gonna let it?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Arling?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Did barely let you like walk on a sidewalk.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But if you're gonna let you burn an animal.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
If you've got like a big piece of land, like
way out like Louden or something, right, you're wondering if
is is it legal? Or do like people do it
even though it is legal.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I have a I have a I have a really
big yard. I'm I'm I'm on a tenth of an acre.
I can't there are there's no way Arlington County says
that I could bury up my dog in the backyard.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I don't know what it's going to be county to county.
But everyone's checking in said they they've taken the dog
from the vet to bury themselves. Oh, you just throw
it in the car. But that's why we need to
focus on the cremation created no one, no one has
no one, no cat, It could be any animal. The
no it's got to be domesticated. Yeah, I said cat.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh I thought you said, or any animal like you
shoot a raccoon and cook it up.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I don't care. How about they're most popular rabbits yesterday
I didn't count them as pets. Today I do. You
can't just set them on fire. That's awful. Could you
cremate your own animal?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Absolutely not. No, I don't mean does Montgomery County allow
for no? No, no, I know what you're saying. Yeah
I could. I don't think I could. Do you put
him in like a special sack. First, Well, I know.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I only know one person that's done, and he just
did it in a hole.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Okay, all these people, we know you took it home
from the vet, brought it home to bury, brought to
the farm to burry. Did this as a child's eye?
We know, we know that is settled.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Who has creamed, cremated, And thank you, by the way,
thank you for clearing it up, because I didn't even
know you could do that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So thank you for clearing it up. Oh now, ros says,
I bet the owner lied to the vet and said
he wanted to bury on his own property. So if
I said to the vet, hey, I'm just going to
take this home and cremate.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It takes you at your word.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well you think that they know, Well, there goes another
one and tell me he's gonna bury it.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And I know that bitch gonna burn.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That one seems shady.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The no, No, I don't think anybody told the vet
I'm gonna take it home and cook it.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Okay, everyone's treating you like your city folk. I am
city fault. You can bury your own pet. It's not
in Arlington. Well you've said that, but yeah, everyone, thank you,
thank you. Plenty of stories, plenty of stories.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Okay, so I'm willing to accept that as the case.
Get me the cremation. Yeah, and I got I got
fifty million people on hold. Most of them are probably
telling me I'm stupid. Of course you could take it home.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Line fo Hi, Elliot.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
In the morning, Good morning, Ellie, how are you?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I am? Well?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Who's this?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
This is Allison from camp?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
How are you? Oh good? How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Chad's coming down good.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Chad will be there in this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
So I know it's gonna call because it's actually gorys thought.
I'm out of breath because we have three huge oaks
in the backyard and I'm picking up all the branches.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh, sorry about that anyway, Yeah, what can I What
can I do for you?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Allison?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
So, our last dog, he was fifteen, so he had
like a heart murmur and all that jazz, and we
had to put him down. He was just on too
many medications. He couldn't see, he couldn't hold food, and
he couldn't hold his bladder all that. So there's actually
a company had a silver spring that'll actually come to
your house and euthanize your dog so that it's in
like a comfortable environment during your time. They don't rush it.
(11:32):
So you can actually have your dog euthanize in your
own house.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, that I've heard of. That I've heard of for sure.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Yes, so you don't have to, like you decide what
you do with the remains.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, but you can't cremate them, Like I can't walk
outside in the backyard and cremate my dog.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Like I thought this is America, you could cremate your
own dog.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Yeah, you can bury it in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Okay, yes, you could bury it hole, but you're you're
going to you're going to start a fire in the
backyard and watch your dog burn up and then bury
the ashes.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Alison, Yeah, but I have a burn I have a
burn barrel in the backyard for sticks. Why couldn't I
stick the dogs remains in there and burn him with sticks?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Sticks? Dogs?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Don't you do?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Amazon?
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Boxes?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Wow? How many?
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Save you? Hundreds of dollars?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And god? Okay, very good, thank you, thank you. Alison.
Say hi to Chad when you see him later.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Hung justin No way, no way.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Now you know he's not a dog guy. I don't care.
He's a cat.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
He's a Do you kill the kid he's at Burnham?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yes, that's what this is gonna show.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
He did it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We cremated our own cat after the vet put him
to sleep. No way? Yes, Can I ask a question?
Can I ask a question? I have a lot of them?
Now I have a lot of them. It looks really stunned. Yeah,
what's bothering you?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Private message? Justin We're done, don't anymore?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Wait? Why? But okay, okay, I have some questions.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Number one, Oh my god, I've got chills.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Where did he do it? Okay? Number one? Number two?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Since fire picked?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Hey, all the stinks had already burned. There was room,
no no, So Number one, where did hung Justin?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Do it? Number two? Have you ever set your hair
on fire? Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And it stinks?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
What does that smell like? Or do like? If I
burn dog for cat for does it not smell?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
It smells?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You know that?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yes? How do you know?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Cat tail and a candle?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh well, then there you go, by the way. That's
all Justin did.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And then it got the whole cat and it was
dead Justin.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So we're waiting on those answers.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
He he cremated his own animal.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Justin's a witch y'all.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
What would you sorry, war luck? Would you feel would
you feel differently if some what.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
If it auto corrected and it was Actually we celebrated
our own cat after the vet put him to sleep
and not cremated. And he's just realized the mistake.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Hi Joy in the morning.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Hey, I don't want to say my neighbor what county
I worked for, but I'm a fire investigator and this
in the last eleven years, that's in this three times
in our jurisdiction where they couldn't either pay for the cremation.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Bills or the dog died.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
And it was so fat, they couldn't carry it outside,
so they get outside, didn't make it all the way,
and then burn their house down.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wait a minute, people have burned their So you've seen
three cases of cremation or three cases where people burn
their house down cremating the animal.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It was three three times their house is caught on
fire because they're cremating their animals.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh my god, Oh my god. Can I and I
know you just eleven years, I know you said that
you won't give the jurisdiction. Will you give me?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Will you give me the state?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, I'm in Virginia, so I can tell you the walls.
In Virginia. You can actually cremate if you live in
an agricultural area and you are allowed to cremate your
like let's say cows or horses, because you know where's
it going to go. If you have companies that have
mobile incinerators where they'll bring it to your farm and
it's load them up, burn them and then obviously dump
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the ashes. So there are actual legal companies that will
do that. And if you have an ag area, you
were allowed to do it. But like someone where like
you live, or or a highly residential area, you need
like one hundred and fifty feet by one hundred and
fifty feet of a burn distance, because the fat of
the animal is what actually is the most ignitable. So
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once the body starts burning, whether it's human or an animal,
it actually liquidizes and then turns into an ignitable liquid
and then it just keeps on going. That's how it
gets so hot.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Well, how about that my blubber is uh that muffin
top I have, that's a flammable liquidammable.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
I mean whale oil. Whale oil is you know, that's
how they cares, That's how they make it. It's blubber,
it's fat.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Wow. All right, very good, Very good? Am I in
a nag area? No?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
No, no, hey, But I do have a question though,
what Diane.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I was gonna ask if Justin had had given us
a follow up too busy drawing like pentagrams or something?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
He has not?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And by the way, can I can I just just
go over something that firefighter just said where fire investigator
said it wasn't. Three people cremated their animals. Three people
burned their houses down.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Cremating their animals. Jesus oops.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Because one dog was so fat they had to drag
it out.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So are we we're willing to now accept the story
from the Colorado I think so? Yeah, okay, because Bianca
had a theory. Maybe he started digging a hole to
bury and realized it was going to be too hard,
so he decided they just burned it. It's like the
(17:42):
nay Borgetsi bit. Digging holes is hard. It's like the
most important hole you'll ever dig is for a body,
and they're always shallow graves because it's hard to dig
a hole.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Right, I just I know the animals dead and it
can't feel anything. I just can't imagine setting it on fie.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Now, well, you do sort of imagine that when you
pay for a cremation, like my dad. You personally, yes,
I don't want to imagine lighting the match.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
No, or watching the body burn Like, yes, my dad
was cremated, but I don't imagine him laying on the
conveyor belt with flames coming.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Off of him.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
No, no, no, just justin.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Did he watch it? Just maybe he's trying to call
Jesus Christ because you as a question, the delays kicked in.
You've had time to hear these any responses, Hi Elliott
in the morning, Hi, this Mace yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Michelson, Southern Maryland. I Actually we didn't end up having
to put our animal down, thank god. But we had
paid for and had the option to do it, and
they told us we could take it home. They you
like a bag to take it home with if you
want to.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
We were going to have a cremated. So we didn't
do it, but.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Not at that house.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
I've also.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Well I've also had one youth and ice at the
house and they just leave the body here and we
buried it out back.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Okay, but I couldn't even do that, but you you
At no point did you think I'm gonna take it
out back and cremate it? No?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
No, I couldn't do that. I mean bury it.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Yeah, that was hard enough.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
But yeah, no, I couldn't set it on fire. I'm
with you on that.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Also when they cremate a like if I don't know
how my dogs were cremated. But isn't that a a
thank you, ma'am? Isn't that a really high high high
high powered oven. Yeah it's very hot. No, No, like
very hot is a pizza oven?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
This thing is screaming hot?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Are you saying that? Because in your mind. It's like
that's a long process if you're just doing like the
match in the fire pit.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yes, yeah, it says it's double a pizza ovens heat.
So you're talking then fifteen hundred degrees easily? And what
it is? Mobile incinerators? Am I going to see one
one day and just think someone's having their driveway resurfaced?
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
What does that look like? I have no idea to me.
It's like a wood chipper, but it's fire.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Like.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
There's just that conveyor belt that puts it in and
then whoop.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
It goes right in. Oh yeah, there you go. And
is it only for animals? What are you doing in it?
What if a person dies at home?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Tell legality there? Why you can't cremate a person?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I call the medical examiner, they come out, they tag
it done.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Let it if even if that's your gig, you're not
doing it at your house.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
A lot of people like pets more than people. They
get to do it where I'm sorry, where am I going?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Line five?
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Elliott the morning?
Speaker 9 (21:02):
Hey, good morning Elliott.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Hey who's this?
Speaker 9 (21:04):
We're uh? This is Dave from the Northern Neck.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yes, sir, so where I grew up.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
We were right next door to a pet cemetery and crematorium.
And you wonder what the smell is like. It's the
smell you will never forget.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
I bet they hated everything. It is that the wind
was blowing the wrong direction. She was literally the next
property up the road from us, and it was only,
you know, maybe one hundred hundred and fifty yards away.
And you knew when you started seeing smoke coming out
of that stack that if that wind shifted, it was atrocious.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Bet you didn't host a lot of the backyard barbecues.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
No, no, we really didn't.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
And growing up, you know, they the adults always used
to scare us because we knew there were pets buried
there as well as a whole cemetery, right and you
know they used to you know, in the movie Pet
Cemetery came out.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Yeah, it was Yeah, it's a craft night right there.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, I bet, I bet. All right, dude, I appreciate it.
Thank you, my friend, thank you got it.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He's trying to call but can't get through. However, he
has given the location. It was his girlfriend's aunt's house,
so it was not his own nor his families, but
it doesn't matter. I don't care where you did it.
You did it and it was an outdoor furnace. So
he did it in a fireplace, yeah, not like a
(22:33):
patio heater.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Did it in the old green egg chimenea.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
It was chilly. You know, they just burned through the
woods so fast. Damn solo stove. Isn't that your biggest
complain about those? Yeah, they do solo stove goes through
wood quick. I haven't tried putting cats on there, though
again his was a cat, not a dog. Right by
the way, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yes, mh, So there you go. Did it stink doesn't say?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Now are people who have done I guess some of
these places, as we've heard, do allow you to be
on site for the actual cremation.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Those people that have done that seem to have regretted it.
Really that it's traumatic.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I would think listen, I would think just having an
animal die in your house is traumatic.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I don't know that I recover from that. But is
that the you know, it's not going to make me,
oh what what?
Speaker 6 (23:38):
I know?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
What will make me forget about this? Watch what I
do out back?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
But it's because it's your place. Or your girlfriend's or
your girlfriend's ant's house. Hey, Jack, give me a starter log,
would you? Is there a sense of peace versus the
random business that you're paying to do it? I'm sure
for some people there is. For me, Oh for me, no,
absolutely not, I'm saying. Versus attending it at the crematorium
(24:07):
and doing it where you're present at your.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
House, No, you drop it off and you leave, so
you you still don't want to if you had to
choose where you're going to be up front and.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Personal with what's going on.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Oh, definitely at a at a crematorium. You'd still rather
be done by the professionals. Absolutely, Okay, yeah, absolutely. I
mean I'm not going to see I'm we have so
many tears in my eyes. That'd be my luck. I'd
be crying so much it keeps putting the fire out.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Damn it.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I said it was funny.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I've been trying to cook this animal for thirty five hours.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I had posted something about this, but the kids are
asking about fort necessity from history class at dinner, which
got me to talking about the Hamilton cast recording. So
I was when I was playing stuff for them, and
I started crying and it was then we went to
(25:09):
found Tonight the mashup with Ben Platt and Linn Mail Miranda,
and then we went over to Other to the Greatest Showmen.
I mean it was we did a lot of stuff.
Your kid have call of duty. Listen, I'm trying. It's
about the quality time at the length of time. So
they were like, are you crying? I said, yeah, this
(25:29):
stuff's isn't the lyrics. It's meaningful, it's special. And then
I remembered that on Monday night I cried when Jay
Usso won the Intercontinental Championship. So I said, could you
have a more well rounded father? No, so appreciate what
I bring to this family. But yes, when we're talking
(25:56):
about the cremation or even the youthsing of the animal,
it's horrible. Well, it's very sad. It's very sad.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
What gives me closure though? What watching the tail go up?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Like once that, once the tail goes up, then you're like, yeah,
now we're getting somewhere.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
It'd be horrible. Oh a little context though from hung
justin remember I worked at a funeral home. Lah I
forgot about that.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So it's like it's like a chef cooking at home,
which none of them do
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