December 10, 2025 • 19 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How was blood pressure day? Yesterday?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
My follow up appointment after thirty days of logging daily readings.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Wait you did that for thirty days?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, it was a month they wanted.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Dude, that month flew by.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, I'm also in the festive seasons for everybody that's
going on. Absolutely, they say it could affect your VP.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
So what did you learn?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
So I get in there with the nurse. I will say,
at first, it has nothing to do with my blood pressure,
but I do appear to have gained some weight since Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
The Yeah, get in line.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I was just to just have had your weight written
down a month ago at your physical and then to
see it a different number thirty days later.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, no kidding. By the way, it's going going to
get go up because now you got the rest of
the holidays coming.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, I blame my shoes. Anyway. We get in there
and she says, so this is just a follow up
for your blood pressure, and I said it is, and
she said, well, let's take it since you have no
other problems to address or go over.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But weren't they checking it with your machine?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I had my machine in my hand right or not
attached to my arm, but I had it next to
me and I'm not looking at the wall unit and
she doesn't say anything after taking the reading. Usually they'll
give you the numbers, especially you think when you're in
there for your blood pressure, right.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So when they because like my like when I go
to the doctor, they'll go, oh, your blood pressure is
and they'll say what it is, and I always have
the same answer. I don't know if that's good or bad. Yeah,
I have no idea what any of that means. I
don't I don't remember it. I don't know what it is.
But didn't you say one twenty over eighty? They want
you to be normal, well, they want you to be
underwing underneath that, right, So what was it yesterday?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
She didn't say anything. So then she goes back to
her computer and types it in and.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'm like, oh my god, girl, why did you ask?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I didn't know because this was a follow up to
not only check me, but also machine my machine. If
they didn't want me to hear it, so that maybe
I would affect my machine, like they wanted the readings
to come out the same.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So they're taking your blood pressure with their machine and
then with your I got you a wall no, no, no, No,
but I didn't realize it must be very sick. No. No,
but I didn't realize that they were taking it with
with with theirs and yours, and then we would see
if they match. Oh okay, so she says, it's good
(02:44):
she didn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, maybe in case it's high.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
No, but just don't want to stress you out and
then throw off the reading for you.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
All I knew is that when they had me use
my machine, I was one sixty over one oh five
and they weren't nervous. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Wait, so one twenty over eighty they want you to
be under You were one sixty over one oh five. Yes, dude,
Wait and that was on your machine. Yes, but that's
higher than you normally are.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It was higher than my reading in office a month ago.
That's led me down this path of trying to figure
out whether I just have high blood pressure?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Were you just scared?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah? I have whitecoat hypertension.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
You got white coat? What was their reading?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
She never said what? She never said.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I can't oh, because at that point they went to
go get a urn.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
She went, no, they went she was the nurse right
now that she's not competent or anything like that. But
they were like, all right, she'll be in to see
you soon.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Very soon, very soon. Here chew a candy stat Why
didn't you, you know what, just lay on the flore
that way, we'd have to worry about you falling. Just
lay on the floor.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
The look on my face when because I had never
gotten a reading like that at home. The highest reading
at home, because I had an outlog was a one
thirty one, which was better than the one which was
better than the one forties which was a month ago
in the office.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And so you were one forty in the office a
month ago, and then one thirties on your machine.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No, no, no, no, I I one thirty was the highest reading.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Okay, of course thirty generally your blood pressure was looking good.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I thought, so, yeah, absolutely, it doesn't look like it there.
So then uh, they they come in. I'm not as
a pair, but they She comes in and she says,
wiping the paddles together, she says, I I had a
(04:48):
bet when you were last in here that you were
going to have to go on medication. And I thought,
with who and there were other people in the office.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, because I bet, as she was saying it, you
thought that she was going to say that it would
be much lower, not that you were going to go
on medications.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Now, what's the neurotic guy, he's coming into that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And she said, I would have lost money because your
blood pressure readings aren't just fine from the last month
they're good. You have white coat hypertension.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So you just get really scared going to the docks.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
She said, it's like in my head but there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, just like your frozen shoulder. Say, how do I
have so I have one head? How can I have
so many illnesses?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
A lot up there?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But why?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
But then she took my blood pressure again with the
wall unit. At that point it was in the one forties, back.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
To where you've really come down.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, and uh, and my machine also read in the
one forties. So they were like, that's perfect because that
shows your machine is So.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
The machines are perfect, your blood pressure is not.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I was super accurate, and that these thirty readings well
systolic and diostoc they are fantastic. So you just need
to now be aware in the future when you go
to a physical that you need a month out to
not just have your blood work done or all the
(06:21):
other stuff. That you usually have to do. But you
need to start taking measurements and keeping a log of
thirty days to bring in because you're gonna walk into
any appointment and they're going to want to put me
in medication like I did with my bet.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But wait, so but here's my question though, So like
if if, if the but you know there's but now
that you know there's nothing wrong, would you still white
coat it? Yeah, you're afraid?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, the she said there's nothing you can do for
white coat hypertension.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Like you can't, there's nothing, nothing. You can't even tell yourself.
You know, there's nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
All the deep breathing you want, but once you walk
in the door, you're gonna freak out.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
She even said that.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
But do you know why you have it?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
It's just anxiety from what life. Yeah, but you're when
you walk into a doctor's office that you're gonna get
bad news.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No, no, But what I'm saying is you knew that
prior to yesterday. Now you know that your blood pressures,
find there's nothing to be nervous about.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I am generally a panicky person, but going to the doctor,
although I don't want to, it's not that nerve racking. Yeah,
I mean, I oh, I guess I worry about all
my numbers, but I'm not like sitting there. I did
do breathing exercises for my physical lobby, but it's it's
(07:37):
not been something where I put it off or I
cancel the appointment or I postponed it, like I'll go
to the doctor. I want to be seen. I've never
I went six or seven years without going to the
dentist in my twenties, but I still saw a doctor,
did you really, Yeah, a general practitioner, even in your twenties,
like for physicals and stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I saw.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I went years in like twenties.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I'm gonna say I saw my I saw a doctor.
Like when you'd have to fill out a form and
they go, who's your doctor, I would just I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Know my pediatrician.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The I didn't. I don't even know that I had
a pediatrician, but she just leave it blank.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
She said she was like ready to before diagnosing quote
unquote the white coat. She wanted to know because this
is when she still thought she won the bet, but
was looking in the hallway at my numbers. What lifestyle
change she could tell all her other patients about because
in thirty days I had changed my life. But then
(08:33):
she realized when my reading was in the one sixties.
Sitting there, Yeah that I'm just scared, but I was happy.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I was relieved. No, but here's what I was going
to say there, they're obviously you're not the first person,
or they would have called it Tyler syndrome. To have
white coat syndrome? Is that normal? Though? Not?
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Let me finish the sentence. It's not normal to have it,
But for somebody that has it, do they have to
do a bunch of stuff at home and then bring
that information to a doctor's appointment? Like if she's telling
you test for thirty days and bring that information in.
Is that normal for somebody with whitecoat? Where a month
before an doctor's appointment they have to do and maybe
(09:16):
maybe it's not just maybe it's not just your blood pressure.
I don't know what else it would like, do you
save up like a month's worth of urine? I have
no idea and then bring that in.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
She made it seem like it was pretty standard procedure.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
To do your I mean, I guess of all the
testing they do, that's really the only one that you
could probably do at home.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Now. I did ask her. I said, should I still
be checking every single day? And she said, no, No,
that's gonna make you nervous, and it will it will
elevate and it'll it could cause health problems if you
check every single day. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, you're giving your You're adding more stress.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So she said if I, if I wanted to, I
could maybe do it once a week. But I didn't
even need to do that because I'm healthy as a
nervous horse.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Why don't so just return the unit I want.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I want to keep it. It served me well, it
proved them wrong. Take that science.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Wait, so you don't have so no, no blood pressure medication?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
No, not one.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That's good because yesterday next November, knowing that you were
going there's a blood pressure drug that has been recalled
for cross contamination. I thought of you yesterday when I
saw this, I was like, oh, I hope he's on ziac.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Now you would hear me coughing. Remember we heard that
was a side effect. And my stepdad, who also is
on blood pressure medication, said that is true. That caller
who said you cough on one of the pills.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I'm one of the blood pressure pills.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh really that that is an annoying spillover.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Don't they always say blood pressure medication makes you dizzy
because it either makes your blood pressure too high or
too low. Yeah, you don't, no, no, no no, But
sometimes don't they like if you if your blood pressure
is too high and they give you the medication to
lower it, yeah, if it goes too low, too low, yeah, yeah,
(11:08):
then you get dizzey. Yeah, you get real dizzy. Like
they say, like, if you're on blood pressure medication, you
gotta be careful, like going upstairs and crap.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
She even said, because I had some systolic numbers in
the nineties, maybe five or six over the thirty days,
And she said, did you feel okay those days? And
I replied, Actually, those were the days I felt the best.
Those were like Friday afternoons or Saturday afternoons, you know,
stuff without show prep. So it it's like the nineties
(11:37):
to me. I was breathing easy. I loved it. But
I guess some patients in the nineties could feel headaches
or lightheaded or dizzy. It was great.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Everybody's on blood pressure, everybody's on medication.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah yeah, oh, let's laugh at them. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
No, but maybe they're just maybe I see you next November.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It turns out it wasn't white coat.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
No, but I was gonna say, maybe they all have
white coat of people have no way. I think that
was the one you have white coat.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It was like between fifteen and thirty percent.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I know one person that has white coat. It's me.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It's me.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's bloody. Where am I going? Line seven? Hi Ellie
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I don't want to say this in freak Tyler out,
but my mom has high blood pressure and she also
has white coat syndrome. So she has to be medicated
in order to go to the doctor or the dentist
because she already has high blood pressure, but when she
goes into an appointment, it will skyrocket to like dangerous areas.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You know what though, I feel like, like what what like?
When you say dangerous area? What area?
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Well, her blood pressure the other day spiked and it
was up to two hundred over one oh two.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That's nothing, man, that's not Elliott.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
That is what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's nothing really bad. No, I was reading about a guy.
I also brought this in knowing Tyler was in there. Yesterday,
this one guy was drinking energy drinks. He drank eight
of them. His blood pressure got up to two hundred
and fifty four over one fifty.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It's does the machine go?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Then the the like they like, he like that was
a problem. He suffered a minor stroke, yeah, from his
blood pressure being up so high. But yeah, I brought
that in for Tyler.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Back off the energy drinks.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Well that's what they said. Yeah, but I brought in for.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Tyler and a doctor.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I should mainline some monster.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You want to crush a monster right now? I'm there
with you. Hey, the the no, but I feel like
a thank you, ma'am. I feel like I have heard
of people who take ballium to go to the doctor.
But to me, that's not white coat syndrome. That's just
like a eighth like your your what is it called
(14:04):
hy put hypochondriac. Oh, where it's like you're whatever, you're
going to have, whatever it is, and so they take
it for that. Now, maybe those two go hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, But for those people that's in their head.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I'm sorry, where's yours? Good point line three? Hi Elliet
of the morning? Hi? This mean yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Who's this? Oh?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
This is Tyler out of Richmond. So I'm twenty five
and so in my whole life, I've had high blood pressure.
So like when I did sports physicals and stuff, it
always be high. It make me sit down and like
wait and before they could reach I get to play football.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And stuff right.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Well, within the last i'd say a year or two,
I was getting like spike, so I get super dizzy.
I'd have to sit down. Well one morning, so I
had to buy my own couple. One morning, I was
having an episode and I checked my blood pressure on
my oon cuff and it was one hundred and ninety
six every one oh five.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, that's high, bro.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I hate.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
I hate the hospital, hate the doctor, I ate everything
about it. So this was the one time I was like,
call somebody, I gotta go. Well, they get there, it's
a volunteer fire squad. They check my blood pressure the
first guy and he's like, this can't be right. So
they checked it three times, three different people. They thought
their machines was messed up. But anyway, long story short,
(15:28):
they ended up putting me on blood pressure medicine. They
wouldn't tell me what it was, what's causing it. They
just put me on blood mester pressure medicine. It sent
me out the door.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And are you still wing it?
Speaker 7 (15:38):
I'm only twenty five.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Wow? Yeah, and you take it every day? Right, you
have to take it every day?
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Yeah? I do take it every day. And the one
thing that I've noticed that will spike it is just
drinking coffee in the morning tends to spike you.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Have you thought about energy drinks? I know a guy
that crushed eight of them had minor strokes in a
two point fifty over some All right, dude, I appreciate it.
Thank you. Did they tell you can drink coffee? Well?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I had told him at the last appointment that half
to go ahead. He's a tea guy, and only every
other day with caffeine. The other day it's just hot
water the other day. It's not unnecessary blood pressure treatment.
I'm managing it well, just not inside these walls. I
(16:26):
did leave the appointment thinking like, well, there goes all
my stress. What are you talking about? Look in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Let me grab line six hi Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Oh, this is wonderful. I thought this would be a
great idea that Tyler should bring in his blood pressure
cuffs into the studio. And we can test it as
he's talking with you during a certain side.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Just as the show is going on. It's like I
always want to let's just call Culver and see what
he's doing. Let's just ran to only strap up Tyler
and see what it's at.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, talk about WWE. It goes real.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Look yeah, no, true, true, exactly, exactly. Use a foul word,
it's spikes.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Use a foul world. Yeah, it's all the way up.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You may be onto something there, you may be onto something.
All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I am, And it's not cheating, but I am because
I did get that one sixty systolic number. I am
gonna delete that from the logs because it ruined my
average and that's not fair.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, but that's not on yours. Oh yeah, it was
on yours. Oh yeah, So you're gonna keep checking.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm gonna do it once a week. I have a machine.
Why not.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Because you know you don't need it, but.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
You also don't want it to be like someone in
this room who had was cleared of some concerns and
then doesn't expect anything to pop up since their scans.
I just want to make sure that I'm not always thinking, oh,
that blood pressure is high only because of the wait, oh,
it's it's getting high now as we are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
As you're going on, Yeah, no, I get it. That's
it's getting cancer the day after you uh, the day
after you leave your scans, the locker scan, hi Elliot
the morning. Yeah, hey, go quick, I gotta take a break.
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Well, yeah, so I do primary care for a living.
I was just going to say that I get a
lot of these folks that have kind of anxieties about
healthcare in general. And you know, it's like I had
a pain for three seconds in my abdomen and it's
got to be cancer. So it's it's pretty common.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, I bet by the way you said you work
in primary care. Tyler got pale just being on the phone.
So but that does that number sound right? That what
would you say, thirty percent of people have white coat syndrome?
That seems high.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Yeah. So I would argue a little on the high
sight on that one.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
But it's because I have this person come in and
say said, blood pressure is high, and they said, yeah,
I have white coat syndrome. And I said, okay, so
how is it just when you come to the doctor's office.
I said no, If I check my pressure, even at home,
it's high every.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Time I check. And I said, man, that's that's hypertension.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Sucker,
How was blood pressure day? Yesterday?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
My follow up appointment after thirty days of logging daily readings.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Wait you did that for thirty days?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, it was a month they wanted.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Dude, that month flew by.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, I'm also in the festive seasons for everybody that's
going on. Absolutely, they say it could affect your VP.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
So what did you learn?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
So I get in there with the nurse. I will say,
at first, it has nothing to do with my blood pressure,
but I do appear to have gained some weight since Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
The Yeah, get in line.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I was just to just have had your weight written
down a month ago at your physical and then to
see it a different number thirty days later.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, no kidding. By the way, it's going going to
get go up because now you got the rest of
the holidays coming.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, I blame my shoes. Anyway. We get in there
and she says, so this is just a follow up
for your blood pressure, and I said it is, and
she said, well, let's take it since you have no
other problems to address or go over.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But weren't they checking it with your machine?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I had my machine in my hand right or not
attached to my arm, but I had it next to
me and I'm not looking at the wall unit and
she doesn't say anything after taking the reading. Usually they'll
give you the numbers, especially you think when you're in
there for your blood pressure, right.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So when they because like my like when I go
to the doctor, they'll go, oh, your blood pressure is
and they'll say what it is, and I always have
the same answer. I don't know if that's good or bad. Yeah,
I have no idea what any of that means. I
don't I don't remember it. I don't know what it is.
But didn't you say one twenty over eighty? They want
you to be normal, well, they want you to be
underwing underneath that, right, So what was it yesterday?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
She didn't say anything. So then she goes back to
her computer and types it in and.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'm like, oh my god, girl, why did you ask?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I didn't know because this was a follow up to
not only check me, but also machine my machine. If
they didn't want me to hear it, so that maybe
I would affect my machine, like they wanted the readings
to come out the same.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
So they're taking your blood pressure with their machine and
then with your I got you a wall no, no, no, No,
but I didn't realize it must be very sick. No. No,
but I didn't realize that they were taking it with
with with theirs and yours, and then we would see
if they match. Oh okay, so she says, it's good
(02:44):
she didn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, maybe in case it's high.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
No, but just don't want to stress you out and
then throw off the reading for you.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
All I knew is that when they had me use
my machine, I was one sixty over one oh five
and they weren't nervous. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Wait, so one twenty over eighty they want you to
be under You were one sixty over one oh five. Yes, dude,
Wait and that was on your machine. Yes, but that's
higher than you normally are.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It was higher than my reading in office a month ago.
That's led me down this path of trying to figure
out whether I just have high blood pressure?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Were you just scared?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah? I have whitecoat hypertension.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
You got white coat? What was their reading?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
She never said what? She never said.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I can't oh, because at that point they went to
go get a urn.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
She went, no, they went she was the nurse right
now that she's not competent or anything like that. But
they were like, all right, she'll be in to see
you soon.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Very soon, very soon. Here chew a candy stat Why
didn't you, you know what, just lay on the flore
that way, we'd have to worry about you falling. Just
lay on the floor.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
The look on my face when because I had never
gotten a reading like that at home. The highest reading
at home, because I had an outlog was a one
thirty one, which was better than the one which was
better than the one forties which was a month ago
in the office.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And so you were one forty in the office a
month ago, and then one thirties on your machine.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No, no, no, no, I I one thirty was the highest reading.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Okay, of course thirty generally your blood pressure was looking good.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I thought, so, yeah, absolutely, it doesn't look like it there.
So then uh, they they come in. I'm not as
a pair, but they She comes in and she says,
wiping the paddles together, she says, I I had a
(04:48):
bet when you were last in here that you were
going to have to go on medication. And I thought,
with who and there were other people in the office.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, because I bet, as she was saying it, you
thought that she was going to say that it would
be much lower, not that you were going to go
on medications.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Now, what's the neurotic guy, he's coming into that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And she said, I would have lost money because your
blood pressure readings aren't just fine from the last month
they're good. You have white coat hypertension.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So you just get really scared going to the docks.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
She said, it's like in my head but there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, just like your frozen shoulder. Say, how do I
have so I have one head? How can I have
so many illnesses?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
A lot up there?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But why?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
But then she took my blood pressure again with the
wall unit. At that point it was in the one forties, back.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
To where you've really come down.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, and uh, and my machine also read in the
one forties. So they were like, that's perfect because that
shows your machine is So.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
The machines are perfect, your blood pressure is not.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I was super accurate, and that these thirty readings well
systolic and diostoc they are fantastic. So you just need
to now be aware in the future when you go
to a physical that you need a month out to
not just have your blood work done or all the
(06:21):
other stuff. That you usually have to do. But you
need to start taking measurements and keeping a log of
thirty days to bring in because you're gonna walk into
any appointment and they're going to want to put me
in medication like I did with my bet.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But wait, so but here's my question though, So like
if if, if the but you know there's but now
that you know there's nothing wrong, would you still white
coat it? Yeah, you're afraid?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, the she said there's nothing you can do for
white coat hypertension.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Like you can't, there's nothing, nothing. You can't even tell yourself.
You know, there's nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
All the deep breathing you want, but once you walk
in the door, you're gonna freak out.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
She even said that.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
But do you know why you have it?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
It's just anxiety from what life. Yeah, but you're when
you walk into a doctor's office that you're gonna get
bad news.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
No, no, But what I'm saying is you knew that
prior to yesterday. Now you know that your blood pressures,
find there's nothing to be nervous about.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I am generally a panicky person, but going to the doctor,
although I don't want to, it's not that nerve racking. Yeah,
I mean, I oh, I guess I worry about all
my numbers, but I'm not like sitting there. I did
do breathing exercises for my physical lobby, but it's it's
(07:37):
not been something where I put it off or I
cancel the appointment or I postponed it, like I'll go
to the doctor. I want to be seen. I've never
I went six or seven years without going to the
dentist in my twenties, but I still saw a doctor,
did you really, Yeah, a general practitioner, even in your twenties,
like for physicals and stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I saw.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I went years in like twenties.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I'm gonna say I saw my I saw a doctor.
Like when you'd have to fill out a form and
they go, who's your doctor, I would just I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Know my pediatrician.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The I didn't. I don't even know that I had
a pediatrician, but she just leave it blank.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
She said she was like ready to before diagnosing quote
unquote the white coat. She wanted to know because this
is when she still thought she won the bet, but
was looking in the hallway at my numbers. What lifestyle
change she could tell all her other patients about because
in thirty days I had changed my life. But then
(08:33):
she realized when my reading was in the one sixties.
Sitting there, Yeah that I'm just scared, but I was happy.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I was relieved. No, but here's what I was going
to say there, they're obviously you're not the first person,
or they would have called it Tyler syndrome. To have
white coat syndrome? Is that normal? Though? Not?
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Let me finish the sentence. It's not normal to have it,
But for somebody that has it, do they have to
do a bunch of stuff at home and then bring
that information to a doctor's appointment? Like if she's telling
you test for thirty days and bring that information in.
Is that normal for somebody with whitecoat? Where a month
before an doctor's appointment they have to do and maybe
(09:16):
maybe it's not just maybe it's not just your blood pressure.
I don't know what else it would like, do you
save up like a month's worth of urine? I have
no idea and then bring that in.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
She made it seem like it was pretty standard procedure.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
To do your I mean, I guess of all the
testing they do, that's really the only one that you
could probably do at home.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Now. I did ask her. I said, should I still
be checking every single day? And she said, no, No,
that's gonna make you nervous, and it will it will
elevate and it'll it could cause health problems if you
check every single day. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, you're giving your You're adding more stress.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So she said if I, if I wanted to, I
could maybe do it once a week. But I didn't
even need to do that because I'm healthy as a
nervous horse.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Why don't so just return the unit I want.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I want to keep it. It served me well, it
proved them wrong. Take that science.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Wait, so you don't have so no, no blood pressure medication?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
No, not one.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That's good because yesterday next November, knowing that you were
going there's a blood pressure drug that has been recalled
for cross contamination. I thought of you yesterday when I
saw this, I was like, oh, I hope he's on ziac.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Now you would hear me coughing. Remember we heard that
was a side effect. And my stepdad, who also is
on blood pressure medication, said that is true. That caller
who said you cough on one of the pills.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I'm one of the blood pressure pills.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh really that that is an annoying spillover.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Don't they always say blood pressure medication makes you dizzy
because it either makes your blood pressure too high or
too low. Yeah, you don't, no, no, no no, But
sometimes don't they like if you if your blood pressure
is too high and they give you the medication to
lower it, yeah, if it goes too low, too low, yeah, yeah,
(11:08):
then you get dizzey. Yeah, you get real dizzy. Like
they say, like, if you're on blood pressure medication, you
gotta be careful, like going upstairs and crap.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
She even said, because I had some systolic numbers in
the nineties, maybe five or six over the thirty days,
And she said, did you feel okay those days? And
I replied, Actually, those were the days I felt the best.
Those were like Friday afternoons or Saturday afternoons, you know,
stuff without show prep. So it it's like the nineties
(11:37):
to me. I was breathing easy. I loved it. But
I guess some patients in the nineties could feel headaches
or lightheaded or dizzy. It was great.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Everybody's on blood pressure, everybody's on medication.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah yeah, oh, let's laugh at them. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
No, but maybe they're just maybe I see you next November.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It turns out it wasn't white coat.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
No, but I was gonna say, maybe they all have
white coat of people have no way. I think that
was the one you have white coat.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It was like between fifteen and thirty percent.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I know one person that has white coat. It's me.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
It's me.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's bloody. Where am I going? Line seven? Hi Ellie
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
I don't want to say this in freak Tyler out,
but my mom has high blood pressure and she also
has white coat syndrome. So she has to be medicated
in order to go to the doctor or the dentist
because she already has high blood pressure, but when she
goes into an appointment, it will skyrocket to like dangerous areas.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
You know what though, I feel like, like what what like?
When you say dangerous area? What area?
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Well, her blood pressure the other day spiked and it
was up to two hundred over one oh two.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That's nothing, man, that's not Elliott.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
That is what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's nothing really bad. No, I was reading about a guy.
I also brought this in knowing Tyler was in there. Yesterday,
this one guy was drinking energy drinks. He drank eight
of them. His blood pressure got up to two hundred
and fifty four over one fifty.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It's does the machine go?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Then the the like they like, he like that was
a problem. He suffered a minor stroke, yeah, from his
blood pressure being up so high. But yeah, I brought
that in for Tyler.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Back off the energy drinks.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Well that's what they said. Yeah, but I brought in for.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Tyler and a doctor.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I should mainline some monster.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You want to crush a monster right now? I'm there
with you. Hey, the the no, but I feel like
a thank you, ma'am. I feel like I have heard
of people who take ballium to go to the doctor.
But to me, that's not white coat syndrome. That's just
like a eighth like your your what is it called
(14:04):
hy put hypochondriac. Oh, where it's like you're whatever, you're
going to have, whatever it is, and so they take
it for that. Now, maybe those two go hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, But for those people that's in their head.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I'm sorry, where's yours? Good point line three? Hi Elliet
of the morning? Hi? This mean yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Who's this? Oh?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
This is Tyler out of Richmond. So I'm twenty five
and so in my whole life, I've had high blood pressure.
So like when I did sports physicals and stuff, it
always be high. It make me sit down and like
wait and before they could reach I get to play football.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And stuff right.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Well, within the last i'd say a year or two,
I was getting like spike, so I get super dizzy.
I'd have to sit down. Well one morning, so I
had to buy my own couple. One morning, I was
having an episode and I checked my blood pressure on
my oon cuff and it was one hundred and ninety
six every one oh five.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah, that's high, bro.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I hate.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
I hate the hospital, hate the doctor, I ate everything
about it. So this was the one time I was like,
call somebody, I gotta go. Well, they get there, it's
a volunteer fire squad. They check my blood pressure the
first guy and he's like, this can't be right. So
they checked it three times, three different people. They thought
their machines was messed up. But anyway, long story short,
(15:28):
they ended up putting me on blood pressure medicine. They
wouldn't tell me what it was, what's causing it. They
just put me on blood mester pressure medicine. It sent
me out the door.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And are you still wing it?
Speaker 7 (15:38):
I'm only twenty five.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Wow? Yeah, and you take it every day? Right, you
have to take it every day?
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Yeah? I do take it every day. And the one
thing that I've noticed that will spike it is just
drinking coffee in the morning tends to spike you.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Have you thought about energy drinks? I know a guy
that crushed eight of them had minor strokes in a
two point fifty over some All right, dude, I appreciate it.
Thank you. Did they tell you can drink coffee? Well?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I had told him at the last appointment that half
to go ahead. He's a tea guy, and only every
other day with caffeine. The other day it's just hot
water the other day. It's not unnecessary blood pressure treatment.
I'm managing it well, just not inside these walls. I
(16:26):
did leave the appointment thinking like, well, there goes all
my stress. What are you talking about? Look in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Let me grab line six hi Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Oh, this is wonderful. I thought this would be a
great idea that Tyler should bring in his blood pressure
cuffs into the studio. And we can test it as
he's talking with you during a certain side.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Just as the show is going on. It's like I
always want to let's just call Culver and see what
he's doing. Let's just ran to only strap up Tyler
and see what it's at.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, talk about WWE. It goes real.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Look yeah, no, true, true, exactly, exactly. Use a foul word,
it's spikes.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Use a foul world. Yeah, it's all the way up.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You may be onto something there, you may be onto something.
All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I am, And it's not cheating, but I am because
I did get that one sixty systolic number. I am
gonna delete that from the logs because it ruined my
average and that's not fair.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, but that's not on yours. Oh yeah, it was
on yours. Oh yeah, So you're gonna keep checking.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I'm gonna do it once a week. I have a machine.
Why not.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Because you know you don't need it, but.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
You also don't want it to be like someone in
this room who had was cleared of some concerns and
then doesn't expect anything to pop up since their scans.
I just want to make sure that I'm not always thinking, oh,
that blood pressure is high only because of the wait, oh,
it's it's getting high now as we are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
As you're going on, Yeah, no, I get it. That's
it's getting cancer the day after you uh, the day
after you leave your scans, the locker scan, hi Elliot
the morning. Yeah, hey, go quick, I gotta take a break.
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Well, yeah, so I do primary care for a living.
I was just going to say that I get a
lot of these folks that have kind of anxieties about
healthcare in general. And you know, it's like I had
a pain for three seconds in my abdomen and it's
got to be cancer. So it's it's pretty common.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, I bet by the way you said you work
in primary care. Tyler got pale just being on the phone.
So but that does that number sound right? That what
would you say, thirty percent of people have white coat syndrome?
That seems high.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Yeah. So I would argue a little on the high
sight on that one.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
But it's because I have this person come in and
say said, blood pressure is high, and they said, yeah,
I have white coat syndrome. And I said, okay, so
how is it just when you come to the doctor's office.
I said no, If I check my pressure, even at home,
it's high every.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Time I check. And I said, man, that's that's hypertension.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Sucker,
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