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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you know what roseesia is?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, it's like this skin thing, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
But what, like, how do you know? I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm not asking because I'm trying to self diagnose. Let
me be very clear, but what exactly is roseesia?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Isn't the blood vessels become a little bit more visible
A lot of times it's on your.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Cheeks they said, cheeks, forehead And is it nose?
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I think it can, right, but like, can you tell
if someone has it?
Speaker 6 (00:29):
Can you Clinton? Didn't Bill Clinton have it?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I mean he was bulbousy for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
His nose was bald, and I thought he had like
the rosiest Do they treat that like is it bad?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Or is it just? Like that's what you got and
that's what you got? Whoa tyler?
Speaker 6 (00:44):
I mean they're varying degrees of it.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh that's a bad degree right there.
Speaker 7 (00:48):
That's on the eyelids and the forehead.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh dude, that sucks.
Speaker 7 (00:53):
Yeah, this skin condition causing redness, flushing and visible blood vessels.
Gotta hope that's not what's going on in my nose.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
The yeah, no, in some cases like that that the
woman on the right there looks like a little bit
like Rudolph the like the rest of her face is fine,
but that nose is good and red.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
But I do believe they have creams and gels.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, so it's not like if you have roseatia. And again,
I am not trying to self diagnose. Let me just
be very clear.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
No, I mean I get I get a little bit
of it on my cheeks sometimes.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
Oh no, what like as a diagnosis?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, oh do you really?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
What do you do for it?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I have a I have a cream that sometimes when
it pops out, I think it's it's if I never
noticed that, just a little bit of rosy. I mean,
I've got a cream that I can use if it
bothers me.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh really, I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I don't think it's it's never bothered me. I don't
think it's very obvious. Is the description the cream?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Yeah, Oh, I was gonna say, you've never offered it
to me for my nose. I beat the laser, Diane.
They couldn't laser this red vessel off my nose. Constantly
in search of something to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I didn't know that. I didn't know that you that
you did that.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
I've never noticed did it pop up when you were
on academic probation.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
No, yeah, why have you never said nothing about roseatia?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah? Because it because I don't think it's that noticeable.
She's like, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Very some of these pictures is noticing.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
She's like, you have a little bit of it. If
you I'll give you a cream if you want to
use it. If it's if it, if it starts to
get a little more pronounced.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
What causes it? I don't like you are you just
born with it? I don't.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
I don't know. Is it just a skin reaction. I'm
telling you, it's so minor on me. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I've never noticed it. I've never noticed it, But I
don't know what causes.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Sometimes it'll look you'll look a little flushed.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
It can be anything, really, environment immune system, micro organism, Oh, pillows,
spicy food, No way, they can worsen symptoms.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh okay, So like you eat you eat a you
mean some siracha and your face gets red.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
They bring in that geil though, kind of micro do creams.
That'd be amazing. That's amazing because in.
Speaker 8 (03:15):
My head, like I I and I, body dysmorphia is
a real thing. I'm not claiming that I see myself
that bad off. But but I do feel like and
I told you this when I started talking about my condition,
I feel like Rudolph.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The Oh my god, Tyler, I do.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Elliott, No, but that that's that's a ridiculous statement.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
I said.
Speaker 8 (03:39):
I know body dysmorpha is a real thing, but I
also didn't want to attach myself to such feelings because
then it diminishes it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yes, of course I do.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
I every time I like, I don't love looking in
the mirror because I know I'm going to see that
red dot.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I gotta be honest. I don't see it in either
one of you. But I also tend to and you
guys know this about me. I only see the beauty
in people.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
Yeah, you ignore the parts that people not in all
cases happened to my dawn bad about Yeah, but I.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Don't even see it. I don't even see it anyway?
Where am I going? Line six? Hi, Ellie had the morning?
Speaker 9 (04:18):
What does this mean?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Who's this?
Speaker 9 (04:21):
This is Janine?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
How are you good? Good?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Do you do?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You got rosetia?
Speaker 9 (04:26):
My my husband does. He was only diagnosed like a
month ago. He thought he was having like stress breakouts
because we had our second kid last year, and so
he thought he was just having a issue, and he
kept taking out everything because he's a dudes. And then
he got diagnosed and he went to go pick up
his prescription, which is a strong Nonsir oil cream, and
(04:51):
they're trying to charge one hundred and twenty five with insurance.
And then I asked how much is it with that
insurance and it's apparently one two hundred and fifty of us.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Oh my god, do you want to borrow some of
the dian's?
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Mine was mine. I get it.
Speaker 9 (05:04):
I get it for free for something else. So I
just got him a free prescription. But it was interesting
to learn that rose sha, which is pretty common, the
dreams for it are highly expensive.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Hey what what? What? What cream? What do you using
the cream for for free?
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (05:22):
Something called gut tape periasis which you shouldn't look up.
I'll send Diane pictures.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Wait, wait, what is that kind of psoriasis?
Speaker 9 (05:32):
It's called gut taate g u t a t E.
And it happens. It's usually found those people who recently
had mono, mostly in younger teenage and adolescents, but for me,
it was a secondary reaction all over my body from
my first interaction was poison ivy that became a skin infection.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Hey, let me just be the first to say, I
am sorry.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Okay, so, but but that the cream that you used
for that he can use on his roseation.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Diane, you got to see these pastures us that like powerwash.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Just okay, all right, I look forward to that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
All right, very good, very good, thank you, Holy my God.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
And how was she pronouncing that paste?
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Gut takes gut tat.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
She said, g u t darla gut taite gut tape dictate.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
He had poison, Yes he did.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
He also had a lot of droopy meat at the.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
End of his way.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I want to confuse people the No, all right, let
me find somebody else.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Hi Ellie in the morning. Hi, Yeah, Hi use this Hi.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
This is Ann from Warrington.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yes, and what can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I have androidisha for about two plus years. It was
diagnosed actually by my optometry trist because I went I
have ocular e roseasia. It presented itself as like a
sty and it just kept happening. And yeah, so I
(07:14):
like the other collar I have the acid cream that
I put on twice a day, and you know, there's
no cure for it. Got to pay attention to flares like.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Alcohol, sun right anything? Hey, So can I ask you this?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
So I didn't know that there was no cure for
it other than just trying to hide it. Let me
ask you this though. Here's where I'm going. Do they
tell you that roseatia can turn into something else?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I haven't heard that. And there are other treatments. There
is like a laser treatment that they can do if
it gets really bad. Now, the flesh on my cheek
and it's only one side of my face is very small,
so I don't think it's worth doing the laser. However,
I am going to see an eyelid surgeon to try
(08:08):
and handle handle what's happening with the eyelid.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So hey, yeah, So I was reading about this thing
called rhino fyma and they said rhino fima r h
I n O, which makes you think nose, right, like
rhino plasty or rhinosaurus, and so rhino is nose r
(08:36):
h I n O p h y m A rhino fima.
I'd love to find somebody who has that. Anyway, it
says that condition is mainly seen in those that have roatia,
a rash that can affect the cheeks, forehead, or nose,
although they still don't understand all the reasoning behind it. Right,
we kind of learned that rhino fima O what so
(09:02):
Rhino of course knows.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Faima just means, oh my god, here's this dude. His
nose became like, I don't even know what's that monkey? Yeah,
he got a monkey.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Nose from the rosetia.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's yes developed, Yes, the rosasha turned into rhino fima.
It was hanging over his mouth, his nose. Yes, you
got to see this guy. He said it got so bad.
He realized it was so bad when he couldn't. He's married.
There's some guy but I don't remember his name. I
don't know Gerard.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Oh maybe it's our old hr guy.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Gerard couldn't kiss his wife Carol because his nose.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Got in the way, like it covered his lips.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I told you, it hung over his mouth. It's ridiculous.
He's getting surgery. It is, but he had surgery. He
had surgery.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
Fima means swelling, growth or even tumor. Yeah, but it's
not a tumor for him, Thanks Arnold. And by the way.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
The after surgery on the right even then you're like,
keep going.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
Oh my god, Diana, Oh wow, he looks fantastic.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Now the I would have gone a little bit smaller still,
I would have I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest.
Look at the before picture. Well there's the like before.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
When the rhino feima was intact. You can't even see
his lips.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
No, you really can't. That's not an exaggeration.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
No, how would you honestly would you have to kind
of lift the nose to eat and then let it
come back.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
To Wow, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
The profile shot looks like maybe not in the texture
of it, but definitely in the.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Hang of it. Yeah, and the shape a little bit.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
He's getting the hang of it.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
The doctors did ask him can you breathe? And he said, yeah,
no problems really Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
He looks like his nostrils are kind of shoved up
against his face.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Facts, how long was this growing?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
It?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It started and it just wouldn't stop.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
But started when it doesn't set. This isn't over the
course of a month.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, but I don't think it
was over like fifteen years either, oh, six years?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Six years ago, he says.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Six years ago Gerard first noticed that his nose was
exponentially growing in size. He initially accepted his condition as
his new reality, but came to a head when he
was no longer able to kiss his wife Carol. He
also became increasingly self conscious and was particularly nervous about
(12:10):
being around kids who.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Would just like he didn't want.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
He didn't want his kids or grandkids to judge the
kids based on gramps's dad's face.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You see help he couldn't kiss his wife Carrol.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Oh, that is the reason that started it.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Also, yeah, he can't. Where's his mouth hidden behind his nose?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
So what did eating look like?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Like this?
Speaker 6 (12:38):
He would hold it up with one hand and eat
how well?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Or was he just like? Was he side mouthed in it?
Speaker 9 (12:44):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Line two? Hi, Elliott the morning morning? Hey, who's this? Hey?
Do you know what rhino feima is?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (12:57):
My grandfather has it.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Oh dudeude, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 10 (13:03):
He his isn't as bad where it needed to be. Devoult,
but if you ever watched Doctor pimple Popper, she debolts,
a lot of them and takes all those like huge
broaths off.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
The Wait a minute, she does? She does?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
She does rhino feima yeah, yeah, and it's still controllable enough.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
She takes them off that. She had one special episode
where she sent.
Speaker 10 (13:25):
A man where it covered his full face. She sent
him to specialists because he couldn't breathe through his nose
or anything.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Oh this guy, Gerard can still breathe through his nose.
But it just what what is she digging out of there?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
God?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
How much pus is in that tank? I have I
have seen doctor Lee remove a lot of puss. I
don't know what you would do there. I thought it
was just like your nose just kept growing.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You've got potential.
Speaker 10 (13:50):
Well, when it's small enough, she can kind of like
use the clotorizer and you both can get it down
for you. But when it's large enough, they have to
actually like surgically.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Hey? What is your How big is it?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I know you can't see the photo that I'm looking at?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
How big is? How big is your grandpa's nose?
Speaker 10 (14:12):
It got to the point where it was like you
stop and look and be like, what's going on with
his nose? It didn't get huge, like it didn't cover
his mouth or anything, but it was pretty big.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But it was noticeable.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, like it definitely looks different.
Speaker 10 (14:24):
You would stop and say, what is that? What's going
on there?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Like listen, there are times that I shoot the t's
the video t's and I'm like, I got I got
some schnaws going on. Not like that though, like that. Honestly,
I saw this yesterday. I was like, I feel great
about myself. My nose is just jewy, but yeah, that
is that is enormous.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
See.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
But I can look at this photo and I realize
my issue is not Tyler.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
But I'm telling you, that's what you say, some mental
health thing.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
I perceive my problem as something to this degree.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
No, Tyler, you can't tell the difference. But hey, thank you, ma'am.
I'm sorry for grandpa. You can't tell the difference between
the two. Get out of here.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
This is not how they treat the disorder out. They
don't tell someone who looks in a mirror that, hey,
can't you tell the difference? No, you got to work
through and manage it.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
And there are times when I look in the mirror
where I do expect something rhima. I don't mean specifically
rhino fhima, but I do. You'd expect the worst because
you feel like that constantly.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Not like that. So did you Tyler, your nose isn't
banging your bottom lip?
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Did you see that?
Speaker 8 (15:42):
He didn't think his general practitioner would do anything about
it because they would have deemed it cosmetic.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Well, it is kind of cosmetic, yeah, but maybe if
you're breathing, Okay, it is cosmetic.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I mean it is jarring.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
And he didn't want to appear push She with the doctor.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
And you're saying this is an extreme roseasia or.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
They said that that rhino fima generally stems out of
people with roseaesha.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
So I mean, listen, by the time we get to dirt.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Elliott, just because I used up all of Diane's stuff,
can you put too much of that on Diane?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It's just a little. It's ivermectin. The cream is what
you put on.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Because remember I was using that for COVID No I
I was gonna say I was using I couldn't let
that go. I didn't expect you to say it was
I remeed no.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
I was using all summer sunscreen as makeup. It's true.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Point to this spot again. I can't. I can't see it.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Wait are you asking grandfather that he thinks?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
No, I can see his.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Who's who's.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Grandpa's or mine?
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Grandpa's knows the You can't. I have to point to.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
It, Diane.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I could point to it. Kind Yeah, it's right, it's right.
I'm not it's right there.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, okay, yeah, you know you could just put a
little cover up on it and nobody would ever seen that.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You could just leave it alone and no one will
see it.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I use all the cover up of my hands.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
By the way, can you can you put the picture
back up on the screen because I want to ask
that no on the big screen.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh yes, yeah, because I want to ask Diane a
question about the after follow Hi, Yellie in the morning. Yeah, Hi,
who's as Hi?
Speaker 11 (17:45):
Yeah, this is Carolyn. I've had it for about thirty years,
but I wanted to tell you interesting little tid bit.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Wait for third Oh okay, oh.
Speaker 11 (17:57):
God, just raisation. But if you look up online, they
think that it can also be associated with an abundance
of dima dex facial.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Might who.
Speaker 11 (18:10):
Everybody has facial mights, but people of versesia they think
have more. And so one of the treatments interesting of
you know dogs that get mange, which is dima dex
miights and the treatment for that is ibermactin.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Oh no kidding. So when because.
Speaker 11 (18:24):
Dima dex might cause mange in dogs, I'm.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Going to ask you a question quietly so Diane can
hear me. Sometimes sometimes Diane will talk like my face
is a little oily, or or I don't shower. But
are you telling me Diane has more facial mights than
I do? Yep, mm hmm, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
All right, now we're back.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Impossible the amount of crap I put on my face
at night, those might saints survive on that?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
How about that? I got the clean his face in
the room, look at that, look at me. Go all right,
very good, very.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Good, thank you, thank you. Now I do I have
a question? Yes, not the before, not the before.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
The after?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Yeah, which is on the right.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, thank you, no kidding.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
And I don't want this to come out mean, I
really don't.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
But it's gonna No, it's.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Not, it's not. Does the softer after?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Girard has the surgery, right, and we all agree he
looks good.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
He looks really good. Is he the spitting image of somebody?
To you?
Speaker 6 (19:41):
He does kind of resemble somebody. I just can't place
who it is.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
I placed it like a character actor.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
No, somebody we know in this building. No, but has
been in this building.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
I don't know if you should say it. Why.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I just said he looks good.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Ten minutes ago, you said they should have asked the
doctor for more.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
That's personal preference. I would have done more.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
I now I know who you're talking about, and I
don't see it. I don't think it's a doppelganger.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
No, but it's closed.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
But you know who I'm talking about. I do so clearly.
I'm on Diane.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
No, because you gave me a hint.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah. No, he's not in your buildings. I'm in this building.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Yeah right, I have no idea what you're talking You just.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Said it's kind of coming to you.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
No, I said it looks like somebody I feel like
I've seen. I just don't know who it is.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Okay, Tyler, Yes, let's see if we're on the same page. Okay, Now,
on the count of three, on the count of three,
you are going to say the.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
First letter of his first name.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Okay, Okay, that way, we don't have to give everything
away based on that. I bet we're gonna say the
same letter. It feels like I'm a mentalist. I'm a mentalist. Okay,
I'm putting my letter in an envelope, and then I
believe once we both say the first letter the first name,
Diane's gonna have an aha moment but will not blurt
(21:05):
it out. So I'm gonna say one, two three and
then you say, get it. Okay, you're ready?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
One two three? D? Oh wow? D R. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
See, I don't know who you're talking about. Do you
know who I'm talking about?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
No?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
No?
Speaker 7 (21:22):
And Dian?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Do you know either?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
One?
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Now sounds like we need some more R and D.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Wait, so you don't. I didn't give that to you.
Who's D?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Who's R? Maybe we discussed.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Commercial first letter of the last name, first letter of
the last name.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
We clearly don't think it's the same person.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
No, but I may be able to get D and
then somebody else.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
I now, I don't want to say, because I didn't
think it looked enough like D.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Doesn't It looks a lot like RH, Diane. That doesn't
help you, no clue? Ah, my god,
Do you know what roseesia is?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, it's like this skin thing, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
But what, like, how do you know? I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm not asking because I'm trying to self diagnose. Let
me be very clear, but what exactly is roseesia?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Isn't the blood vessels become a little bit more visible
A lot of times it's on your.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Cheeks they said, cheeks, forehead And is it nose?
Speaker 5 (00:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I think it can, right, but like, can you tell
if someone has it?
Speaker 6 (00:29):
Can you Clinton? Didn't Bill Clinton have it?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I mean he was bulbousy for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
His nose was bald, and I thought he had like
the rosiest Do they treat that like is it bad?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Or is it just? Like that's what you got and
that's what you got? Whoa tyler?
Speaker 6 (00:44):
I mean they're varying degrees of it.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh that's a bad degree right there.
Speaker 7 (00:48):
That's on the eyelids and the forehead.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh dude, that sucks.
Speaker 7 (00:53):
Yeah, this skin condition causing redness, flushing and visible blood vessels.
Gotta hope that's not what's going on in my nose.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
The yeah, no, in some cases like that that the
woman on the right there looks like a little bit
like Rudolph the like the rest of her face is fine,
but that nose is good and red.
Speaker 7 (01:13):
But I do believe they have creams and gels.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, so it's not like if you have roseatia. And again,
I am not trying to self diagnose. Let me just
be very clear.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
No, I mean I get I get a little bit
of it on my cheeks sometimes.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
Oh no, what like as a diagnosis?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, oh do you really?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
What do you do for it?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I have a I have a cream that sometimes when
it pops out, I think it's it's if I never
noticed that, just a little bit of rosy. I mean,
I've got a cream that I can use if it
bothers me.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh really, I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I don't think it's it's never bothered me. I don't
think it's very obvious. Is the description the cream?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Yeah, Oh, I was gonna say, you've never offered it
to me for my nose. I beat the laser, Diane.
They couldn't laser this red vessel off my nose. Constantly
in search of something to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I didn't know that. I didn't know that you that
you did that.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
I've never noticed did it pop up when you were
on academic probation.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
No, yeah, why have you never said nothing about roseatia?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah? Because it because I don't think it's that noticeable.
She's like, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Very some of these pictures is noticing.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
She's like, you have a little bit of it. If
you I'll give you a cream if you want to
use it. If it's if it, if it starts to
get a little more pronounced.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
What causes it? I don't like you are you just
born with it? I don't.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
I don't know. Is it just a skin reaction. I'm
telling you, it's so minor on me. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I've never noticed it. I've never noticed it, But I
don't know what causes.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Sometimes it'll look you'll look a little flushed.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
It can be anything, really, environment immune system, micro organism, Oh, pillows,
spicy food, No way, they can worsen symptoms.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh okay, So like you eat you eat a you
mean some siracha and your face gets red.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
They bring in that geil though, kind of micro do creams.
That'd be amazing. That's amazing because in.
Speaker 8 (03:15):
My head, like I I and I, body dysmorphia is
a real thing. I'm not claiming that I see myself
that bad off. But but I do feel like and
I told you this when I started talking about my condition,
I feel like Rudolph.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
The Oh my god, Tyler, I do.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Elliott, No, but that that's that's a ridiculous statement.
Speaker 7 (03:39):
I said.
Speaker 8 (03:39):
I know body dysmorpha is a real thing, but I
also didn't want to attach myself to such feelings because
then it diminishes it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yes, of course I do.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
I every time I like, I don't love looking in
the mirror because I know I'm going to see that
red dot.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I gotta be honest. I don't see it in either
one of you. But I also tend to and you
guys know this about me. I only see the beauty
in people.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
Yeah, you ignore the parts that people not in all
cases happened to my dawn bad about Yeah, but I.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Don't even see it. I don't even see it anyway?
Where am I going? Line six? Hi, Ellie had the morning?
Speaker 9 (04:18):
What does this mean?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Who's this?
Speaker 9 (04:21):
This is Janine?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
How are you good? Good?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Do you do?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You got rosetia?
Speaker 9 (04:26):
My my husband does. He was only diagnosed like a
month ago. He thought he was having like stress breakouts
because we had our second kid last year, and so
he thought he was just having a issue, and he
kept taking out everything because he's a dudes. And then
he got diagnosed and he went to go pick up
his prescription, which is a strong Nonsir oil cream, and
(04:51):
they're trying to charge one hundred and twenty five with insurance.
And then I asked how much is it with that
insurance and it's apparently one two hundred and fifty of us.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Oh my god, do you want to borrow some of
the dian's?
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Mine was mine. I get it.
Speaker 9 (05:04):
I get it for free for something else. So I
just got him a free prescription. But it was interesting
to learn that rose sha, which is pretty common, the
dreams for it are highly expensive.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Hey what what? What? What cream? What do you using
the cream for for free?
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (05:22):
Something called gut tape periasis which you shouldn't look up.
I'll send Diane pictures.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Wait, wait, what is that kind of psoriasis?
Speaker 9 (05:32):
It's called gut taate g u t a t E.
And it happens. It's usually found those people who recently
had mono, mostly in younger teenage and adolescents, but for me,
it was a secondary reaction all over my body from
my first interaction was poison ivy that became a skin infection.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Hey, let me just be the first to say, I
am sorry.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Okay, so, but but that the cream that you used
for that he can use on his roseation.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Diane, you got to see these pastures us that like powerwash.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Just okay, all right, I look forward to that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
All right, very good, very good, thank you, Holy my God.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
And how was she pronouncing that paste?
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Gut takes gut tat.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
She said, g u t darla gut taite gut tape dictate.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
He had poison, Yes he did.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
He also had a lot of droopy meat at the.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
End of his way.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I want to confuse people the No, all right, let
me find somebody else.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Hi Ellie in the morning. Hi, Yeah, Hi use this Hi.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
This is Ann from Warrington.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yes, and what can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I have androidisha for about two plus years. It was
diagnosed actually by my optometry trist because I went I
have ocular e roseasia. It presented itself as like a
sty and it just kept happening. And yeah, so I
(07:14):
like the other collar I have the acid cream that
I put on twice a day, and you know, there's
no cure for it. Got to pay attention to flares like.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Alcohol, sun right anything? Hey, So can I ask you this?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
So I didn't know that there was no cure for
it other than just trying to hide it. Let me
ask you this though. Here's where I'm going. Do they
tell you that roseatia can turn into something else?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I haven't heard that. And there are other treatments. There
is like a laser treatment that they can do if
it gets really bad. Now, the flesh on my cheek
and it's only one side of my face is very small,
so I don't think it's worth doing the laser. However,
I am going to see an eyelid surgeon to try
(08:08):
and handle handle what's happening with the eyelid.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So hey, yeah, So I was reading about this thing
called rhino fyma and they said rhino fima r h
I n O, which makes you think nose, right, like
rhino plasty or rhinosaurus, and so rhino is nose r
(08:36):
h I n O p h y m A rhino fima.
I'd love to find somebody who has that. Anyway, it
says that condition is mainly seen in those that have roatia,
a rash that can affect the cheeks, forehead, or nose,
although they still don't understand all the reasoning behind it. Right,
we kind of learned that rhino fima O what so
(09:02):
Rhino of course knows.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Faima just means, oh my god, here's this dude. His
nose became like, I don't even know what's that monkey? Yeah,
he got a monkey.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Nose from the rosetia.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's yes developed, Yes, the rosasha turned into rhino fima.
It was hanging over his mouth, his nose. Yes, you
got to see this guy. He said it got so bad.
He realized it was so bad when he couldn't. He's married.
There's some guy but I don't remember his name. I
don't know Gerard.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Oh maybe it's our old hr guy.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Gerard couldn't kiss his wife Carol because his nose.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Got in the way, like it covered his lips.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I told you, it hung over his mouth. It's ridiculous.
He's getting surgery. It is, but he had surgery. He
had surgery.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
Fima means swelling, growth or even tumor. Yeah, but it's
not a tumor for him, Thanks Arnold. And by the way.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
The after surgery on the right even then you're like,
keep going.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
Oh my god, Diana, Oh wow, he looks fantastic.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Now the I would have gone a little bit smaller still,
I would have I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest.
Look at the before picture. Well there's the like before.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
When the rhino feima was intact. You can't even see
his lips.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
No, you really can't. That's not an exaggeration.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
No, how would you honestly would you have to kind
of lift the nose to eat and then let it
come back.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
To Wow, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
The profile shot looks like maybe not in the texture
of it, but definitely in the.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Hang of it. Yeah, and the shape a little bit.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
He's getting the hang of it.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
The doctors did ask him can you breathe? And he said, yeah,
no problems really Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
He looks like his nostrils are kind of shoved up
against his face.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Facts, how long was this growing?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
It?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It started and it just wouldn't stop.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
But started when it doesn't set. This isn't over the
course of a month.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, but I don't think it
was over like fifteen years either, oh, six years?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Six years ago, he says.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Six years ago Gerard first noticed that his nose was
exponentially growing in size. He initially accepted his condition as
his new reality, but came to a head when he
was no longer able to kiss his wife Carol. He
also became increasingly self conscious and was particularly nervous about
(12:10):
being around kids who.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Would just like he didn't want.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
He didn't want his kids or grandkids to judge the
kids based on gramps's dad's face.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You see help he couldn't kiss his wife Carrol.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Oh, that is the reason that started it.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Also, yeah, he can't. Where's his mouth hidden behind his nose?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
So what did eating look like?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Like this?
Speaker 6 (12:38):
He would hold it up with one hand and eat
how well?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Or was he just like? Was he side mouthed in it?
Speaker 9 (12:44):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Line two? Hi, Elliott the morning morning? Hey, who's this? Hey?
Do you know what rhino feima is?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (12:57):
My grandfather has it.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Oh dudeude, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 10 (13:03):
He his isn't as bad where it needed to be. Devoult,
but if you ever watched Doctor pimple Popper, she debolts,
a lot of them and takes all those like huge
broaths off.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
The Wait a minute, she does? She does?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
She does rhino feima yeah, yeah, and it's still controllable enough.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
She takes them off that. She had one special episode
where she sent.
Speaker 10 (13:25):
A man where it covered his full face. She sent
him to specialists because he couldn't breathe through his nose
or anything.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Oh this guy, Gerard can still breathe through his nose.
But it just what what is she digging out of there?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
God?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
How much pus is in that tank? I have I
have seen doctor Lee remove a lot of puss. I
don't know what you would do there. I thought it
was just like your nose just kept growing.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You've got potential.
Speaker 10 (13:50):
Well, when it's small enough, she can kind of like
use the clotorizer and you both can get it down
for you. But when it's large enough, they have to
actually like surgically.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Hey? What is your How big is it?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I know you can't see the photo that I'm looking at?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
How big is? How big is your grandpa's nose?
Speaker 10 (14:12):
It got to the point where it was like you
stop and look and be like, what's going on with
his nose? It didn't get huge, like it didn't cover
his mouth or anything, but it was pretty big.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But it was noticeable.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, like it definitely looks different.
Speaker 10 (14:24):
You would stop and say, what is that? What's going
on there?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Like listen, there are times that I shoot the t's
the video t's and I'm like, I got I got
some schnaws going on. Not like that though, like that. Honestly,
I saw this yesterday. I was like, I feel great
about myself. My nose is just jewy, but yeah, that
is that is enormous.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
See.
Speaker 8 (14:45):
But I can look at this photo and I realize
my issue is not Tyler.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
But I'm telling you, that's what you say, some mental
health thing.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
I perceive my problem as something to this degree.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
No, Tyler, you can't tell the difference. But hey, thank you, ma'am.
I'm sorry for grandpa. You can't tell the difference between
the two. Get out of here.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
This is not how they treat the disorder out. They
don't tell someone who looks in a mirror that, hey,
can't you tell the difference? No, you got to work
through and manage it.
Speaker 8 (15:21):
And there are times when I look in the mirror
where I do expect something rhima. I don't mean specifically
rhino fhima, but I do. You'd expect the worst because
you feel like that constantly.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Not like that. So did you Tyler, your nose isn't
banging your bottom lip?
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Did you see that?
Speaker 8 (15:42):
He didn't think his general practitioner would do anything about
it because they would have deemed it cosmetic.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Well, it is kind of cosmetic, yeah, but maybe if
you're breathing, Okay, it is cosmetic.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I mean it is jarring.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
And he didn't want to appear push She with the doctor.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
And you're saying this is an extreme roseasia or.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
They said that that rhino fima generally stems out of
people with roseaesha.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
So I mean, listen, by the time we get to dirt.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Elliott, just because I used up all of Diane's stuff,
can you put too much of that on Diane?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It's just a little. It's ivermectin. The cream is what
you put on.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Because remember I was using that for COVID No I
I was gonna say I was using I couldn't let
that go. I didn't expect you to say it was
I remeed no.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
I was using all summer sunscreen as makeup. It's true.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Point to this spot again. I can't. I can't see it.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Wait are you asking grandfather that he thinks?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
No, I can see his.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Who's who's.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Grandpa's or mine?
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Grandpa's knows the You can't. I have to point to.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
It, Diane.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I could point to it. Kind Yeah, it's right, it's right.
I'm not it's right there.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, okay, yeah, you know you could just put a
little cover up on it and nobody would ever seen that.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You could just leave it alone and no one will
see it.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I use all the cover up of my hands.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
By the way, can you can you put the picture
back up on the screen because I want to ask
that no on the big screen.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh yes, yeah, because I want to ask Diane a
question about the after follow Hi, Yellie in the morning. Yeah, Hi,
who's as Hi?
Speaker 11 (17:45):
Yeah, this is Carolyn. I've had it for about thirty years,
but I wanted to tell you interesting little tid bit.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Wait for third Oh okay, oh.
Speaker 11 (17:57):
God, just raisation. But if you look up online, they
think that it can also be associated with an abundance
of dima dex facial.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Might who.
Speaker 11 (18:10):
Everybody has facial mights, but people of versesia they think
have more. And so one of the treatments interesting of
you know dogs that get mange, which is dima dex
miights and the treatment for that is ibermactin.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Oh no kidding. So when because.
Speaker 11 (18:24):
Dima dex might cause mange in dogs, I'm.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Going to ask you a question quietly so Diane can
hear me. Sometimes sometimes Diane will talk like my face
is a little oily, or or I don't shower. But
are you telling me Diane has more facial mights than
I do? Yep, mm hmm, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
All right, now we're back.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Impossible the amount of crap I put on my face
at night, those might saints survive on that?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
How about that? I got the clean his face in
the room, look at that, look at me. Go all right,
very good, very.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Good, thank you, thank you. Now I do I have
a question? Yes, not the before, not the before.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
The after?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Yeah, which is on the right.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, thank you, no kidding.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
And I don't want this to come out mean, I
really don't.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
But it's gonna No, it's.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Not, it's not. Does the softer after?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Girard has the surgery, right, and we all agree he
looks good.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
He looks really good. Is he the spitting image of somebody?
To you?
Speaker 6 (19:41):
He does kind of resemble somebody. I just can't place
who it is.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
I placed it like a character actor.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
No, somebody we know in this building. No, but has
been in this building.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
I don't know if you should say it. Why.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I just said he looks good.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Ten minutes ago, you said they should have asked the
doctor for more.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
That's personal preference. I would have done more.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
I now I know who you're talking about, and I
don't see it. I don't think it's a doppelganger.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
No, but it's closed.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
But you know who I'm talking about. I do so clearly.
I'm on Diane.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
No, because you gave me a hint.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah. No, he's not in your buildings. I'm in this building.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Yeah right, I have no idea what you're talking You just.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Said it's kind of coming to you.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
No, I said it looks like somebody I feel like
I've seen. I just don't know who it is.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Okay, Tyler, Yes, let's see if we're on the same page. Okay, Now,
on the count of three, on the count of three,
you are going to say the.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
First letter of his first name.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Okay, Okay, that way, we don't have to give everything
away based on that. I bet we're gonna say the
same letter. It feels like I'm a mentalist. I'm a mentalist. Okay,
I'm putting my letter in an envelope, and then I
believe once we both say the first letter the first name,
Diane's gonna have an aha moment but will not blurt
(21:05):
it out. So I'm gonna say one, two three and
then you say, get it. Okay, you're ready?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
One two three? D? Oh wow? D R. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
See, I don't know who you're talking about. Do you
know who I'm talking about?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
No?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
No?
Speaker 7 (21:22):
And Dian?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Do you know either?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
One?
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Now sounds like we need some more R and D.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Wait, so you don't. I didn't give that to you.
Who's D?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Who's R? Maybe we discussed.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Commercial first letter of the last name, first letter of
the last name.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
We clearly don't think it's the same person.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
No, but I may be able to get D and
then somebody else.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
I now, I don't want to say, because I didn't
think it looked enough like D.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Doesn't It looks a lot like RH, Diane. That doesn't
help you, no clue? Ah, my god,
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