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September 4, 2025 23 mins
Anxiety flare-up on aisle seven.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How many decisions on average do you make in a day?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
One hundred?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Now you make less than that, Okay, fifty, you make
fifty the average person. You may be above average, you
may make so many decisions that you don't even realize.
But they say the average person makes about fifty decisions
a day, which comes out to about a million and
a half one point seventy five million over the course
of their lifetime, which when you think about that, that

(00:26):
seems low.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
I feel fifty seems low.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I feel like I've made over five million decisions in
my life already.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
But is it like so, for instance, take the music
we play on this show. Is that playlist one decision?
Not fifteen individual decisions?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
To me, it will be fifteen.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, I'm going too.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'll have to send away when they for the methodology
part of how they did it. Anyway, can we can
we not? Can we not?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Got bog See I'm already fifteen into my fifty and
we haven't even started the show. That's why fifty seems low.
So when you get to that total number you agreed
that seemed low.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
It does seem low. But let's not bog down. Let's
not bogged down. Let's not bogged down, right, So they say,
the average person, if you will, makes fifty decisions a day,
when maybe that's low. Let's say it's one hundred. Diana
makes one hundred a day. And so but there are
people that second guess almost all of their decisions and
so to the point where it gives them anxiety. So

(01:27):
they'll sit there and go, do I want that? Do
I want that?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
So there's a bill?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Am I getting the right one? Is this the right one?
Should I not get this one? Why is this one?
Why would I get that one instead of this one?
And they said that grocery stores are number one frequency
people go number two. The just the number of options
that are that are there and the nuanced differences between

(01:56):
all of them gets for what some people refer to
as as ile anxiety. Now, I don't think I've ever
had that. I don't think I've ever had ile anxiety. Now,
do you know what they say? Twenty five percent of people? Nope?
Let me back that off. The average person, average person,

(02:18):
do you know how long they spend picking out each
item at a grocery store? The average person?

Speaker 5 (02:26):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Each item? So if you had to go in and
get give me any item. Almond milk, I'm not getting
that orange juice. Well I'm not getting that either. Well,
no pulp, but that's fine, orange juice. I'll stick with orangejee.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I don' drink it either.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
But I threw an item out that I didn't know
there was a wrong answer.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
No, Diane with almond milk. Average person ain't drinking almond
milk anyway. Average amount of time a person spends selecting
each each item that ends up in their cart.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Twenty seconds.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Twenty seconds. So you're that quick. You walk in, I say, Diane,
I need mushroom creama mushroom soup. You go to the
soup aisle. You got Progresso, you got Campbell's, you got brands.
I can't even mention, but in twenty seconds, you grab
a creama mushroom You put it in wrong average person.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
If I'm brand loyal, it would be even less than.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
An average person.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Four minutes for.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
An average person with anxiety or the average person.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Average person spends four minutes selecting each item that goes
in their grocery cart, and as the shopping experience goes on,
that's that ramps up aisle anxiety that absolutely.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Oh okay, then I'm up there.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Price COMPARI like ingredients like what I realize ingredients or
what's in it? But is it higher in protein, less
than fiber? Higher? Which one averages out? Let me look
back at this one price comparison? Do I want this?
Is it an extra three cents and ounce? Like people
will spend four minutes on each goddamn item.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
But I would describe mine as more an aisle agony
because the cheapest in terms of price is not always
the cheapest per ounce or per unit, correct, And I
compare all of those because I'm not brand loyal on it.
Buy what is cheapest when it comes to per unit.
So yes, I spend time comparing all the tags. And
some stores don't make it as obvious and you have
to do the math yourself. That takes time. It's not

(04:39):
so much that I'm anxious about it, it's that I'm
agonizing over it.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Seventy percent of people want to make sure that they
are one hundred percent certain that every item in their
cart is right for them.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, that can be definitely, like you said, that can
be ingredients, the actual rabbit throw.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
It in there, which one you want? You want progresso,
get progresso. You want Campbells, get Campbell's whatever, Just throw
it in the cart.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
What if you're like.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
There's dietary restrictions or life celts, you already know what
that is.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
No, but vegetarian or vegan, like you have to be
pretty careful.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well you're not even in the soup aisle if you're
vegetarian or vegan. What, Yes, you can be the They
they have their own section.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, it's like six dollars a can.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
But doesn't that seem crazy?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
And they said people have such anxiety because whether did
I get the right one? Am I getting the right one? Is?
Is a Cannellini bean the same as a Northern Italian bean?

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Like?

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I got to know that if you're making beans and greens,
like people will stress about everything, Get a goddamn canna beans.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well sounds like you just throw out a specific example
where if you're trying to accurately make something, Yeah, you
can't screw up forget like the price. You can't mess
up an ingredient.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, but the difference between a Cannellini bean and a
Northern Italian bean are so.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Small because I know it neither one like, honestly, what
are both of those?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
They're white beans? That's it?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
White?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, they're not white.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
If you send me in the store, they are totally stress.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
No. I would tell you either get Cannellini or Northern
Italian and they would sit there and be like, oh, no,
which one?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Google for Google.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
You're in the store. Yeah, just go to the bean aisle,
go to them. What is the one? What is the Goya?
Go to Goya? Yeah, unless you want baked beans, then
you go to bushes.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't even have to look right in that goes in.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
There, and I bet you have a specific style of
baked being like do you like the home style?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Like, which one do you want?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I have one requirement when it comes to baked beans.
They're better be bacon in there. That's it. Big can
the Oh, definitely a big can. Definitely a big can.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Lines Northern beans are what you're looking for, Yeah, because
they don't say Italian on them.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
But they're Italian. But yes, Northern beans or can Allini's.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, all right, so I'm gonna get you the good
giant store brand is the cheapest.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Go to the next one, Goya.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
No, the definitely get this.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, but are those from the Italian part of town
or those from Italy? Like there's a difference.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Please you's Italian brand Goya.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
They also make a like like like like Spanish based
beans too. Yeah, Goya's got plants all over the world.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
And what was the other one? Canelini Cannelini? How do
you smell that?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
C a Analini mine for Hi Elliott the morning?

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Hell?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, Hi, who's that?

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (07:45):
This is Stephanie.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Okay, I'm all over the place. Do you have aiele anxiety?

Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yeah, it's I have general anxiety, like going to any
grocery store. But what I wanted to say was minus
specific to hobby lobby, Like every time I get to
a certain aisle, I like immediately have to poop.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Now, I've never ever stepped foot in a hobby lobby,
so I don't. I'll be very honest, I don't even
really know what's good, Okay. So it's like like like.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
It's it's home goods with more crosses.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Okay, I was gonna say it's real religious right the yeah. Now,
but let me ask you this, what aisle specifically gives
you the asses?

Speaker 6 (08:36):
Does anyone really like myty is just so bad? It's
just so overwhelming in there.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
I guess so.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
You so you have anxiety anyway, but if you go
into a store where you're shopping, it just becomes that
much more overwhelming.

Speaker 7 (08:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
So if you go to a grocery store, is it
is like does your mind just because it.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
What?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Does your mind just flip out at a grocery store? Sometimes?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Do you have to put it there?

Speaker 6 (09:08):
Not in grocery stores. It's weird though, it's only like
a hobby lobby or like a home good store.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Right, maybe hobby lobby. That's Jesus pushing it out of you. Jesus,
I got a crap. All right, very good, very good,
Thank you, ma'am, thank you.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
So Giana has their brand on the northern beans and
on the Canellini beans. Yes, but as we've been informed,
you were wrong, they're both not Italian.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
The Cantelin he's got to be Italian.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Northern is actually from South America.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh no kidding, so Goya, Oh that makes sense then,
but you don't even.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Know you're making am I supposed to stop for you.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
The white beans, even whatever, they're close enough, you also
have white beans.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
See, I don't want white beans, though I don't want
what about chickpeas?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
He's well over four minutes, all.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Right, I'm making beans and greens. It's just got to
look like that. That's all.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Do you ever have to shop for Steve when he
is making stuff at your house?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
He is the at well two things. Yes, and he
is the absolute worst person to go to a grocery
store with.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
It sounds like it's rubbed off.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
And then he's brand loyal. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
No, no, no, no. It depends on what he's making.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
No.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Is he brand loyal at restaurants like he wants to
make sure he's using like the same olive oil from
a purveyor and stuff like that. Yes, he also gets
like wined and dined by purveyors. But at a grocery store, no,
he's not brand loyal. He's not brand loyal. From Instagram,
I've seen Steve scream at the person in the seafood section.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
I spend so much time in the chip aisles.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh that great isle. No, no, no, best ale. No,
that's not what I meant. No, that's not what I meant.
What I meant was, by the way, you mentioned so
many chips. I would never get No, No, But what

(11:13):
I mean is that's overwhelming. That is overwhelmed.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I think any aisle could be overwhelming for somebody who's
got anxiety like.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
That, but I don't have anxiety.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Look at how many different cans of soup there are.
You mentioned soup's easy, soups easy.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
No, but here's where, here's where, Like I'll just use
Steve as the example. Steve will go, hey, listen, I'm
gonna make savice. Go get me like corn chips to put.
I'll make savich, you get chips. Just pick up corn
chips and I'll get and he'll call me and go,
what'd you get? And I'll tell him go, oh my god,
don't get those. Don't get those. I'll go which one

(11:48):
you guys will just look, but get one. I'm like,
but I did get one. It's like, don't get that one. So, yes,
he's he is rough like that.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
And that's stuff too most people have never had before, right,
So if it's something that's a more obvious dish, it's
the same though with him.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yes, Oh God, everything is like that. God, everything is like.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
I remember he once was trying to teach me how
to cut. It was it was like how what We
weren't butchering anything.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
We were just like, were we what was it?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
It wasn't that your birthday or something. We were trying
to like properly, properly slice meat or something could be.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, And the pressure of him watching me do that
was enough that I just wanted to leave.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Oh Steve gets mad because I'll go to cut something
left handed and he'll go, that's not how I do it.
But I'm not right handed, Steve. I'm not right handed, absolutely, Lyne.
Shoo hi, elliot. In the morning, I will say this.
You know who loves Steve at a at a grocery
store if he still has a chef coat on? Women

(12:53):
flock to Steve at a grocery store? Yeah, which one
should I get? How would you do this? Hey? Have
you you ever made? And maybe that's true with all chefs.
I've just been with Steve when he's got a chef
coat on, and people flock to you like you are
like like like you're like you're cooking with everything in
the store. It's crazy. Anyway, I'm sorry, sir. Yes, who

(13:14):
is this you too?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Prank?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Hey? You there, dude?

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Yeah, this is Rick.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Hey Rick, I'm doing great, Thank you? What can I
do for you?

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Good man? So my girlfriend has terrible and I'm the
complete opposite.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I think forever the shop, Wait, you do take forever
to shop?

Speaker 5 (13:36):
I do. I go down there every I gotta find
the best. I mean, we got rising perfect questions. So
I mean people more than ever gotta take a little
longer to find the best deals. They can, you know,
saying the money.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, no, no, listen, And I do get that, right,
I do get that. I do get the comparison shopping
for for costs. But at some point you you do
have to make a decision, like I'm not whipping out
my phone and trying to figure out is it is
it three cents announce or three point one cent announce?
Like at some point you just go, I'm getting it.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I definitely take my phone out.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
From Jimmy on Facebook, my friend moved here from Romania.
He literally got a migraine in the Cereal aisle.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh, great aisle, great aisle for this. No, no, no,
that's a great aisle. That's a great isle.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Going from his usual two to three choices to dozens
with psychologically overwhelming.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Right, but welcome to America, the team Cereal. No, no,
but like if I if you just said, hey, go
in there and get me, get me cornflakes.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's like ten exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
That's why. And some of that you just have to
know what you want that cerial. I'll tell you cereal
is hard, but cereal is not hard because if you
want Captain Crunch, you're not looking for seventeen different capt'n carns.
You want the you want the cap'n Crunch. Now you
may try to figure out is the super size more
cost effective than the regular size?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Always based on this say again, it always is, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Are you gonna finish it? Or is it gonna go stale?
Are you gonna get ants? Like? These are things you
have to worry about.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, but if you're not from here, and you see.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I am from here, so I'm not from Romania, they
probably don't even know what a cap'n Crunch.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Is cap'n crunch.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
You see crunch berries, peanut butter crunch, different, you see
cinnamon crunch, and you see oops all berries berries.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Scott loves that one.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I've never heard of that. I remember, I've never had
cap'n Crunch.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Where's the next stop after the aisle for Captain Crunch
where first aid so that you can get band aids
for the roof of your mouth.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Like they even have cereal bars cap'n Crunch.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, those are pretty good.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
So you can understand. No you say cap'n Crunch, that
person might be like, oh, that's why.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
If they're from Romania, you got to make sure you
tell them this is take a picture of it and
send it to it. This one. I need capt'n Crunch
O g.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Hmm.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
And why when you search cap'n Crunk Love frost of Flakes,
are you also getting other cereal?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
You shouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
It shouldn't be great aisle though, man, I have fruit
loops and forever.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Oh, or you can get the cereal cup.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
No, get out of here.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
We have those here.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Never eat them, never eat them? Line five, Hi elliot
the morning. The only time, yes, bear with me. The
only time that I'll ever use like a small thing
of cereal is if you're at a hotel, like like
when we the hockey breakfast and they would have the

(16:48):
little the little things out. You open up the top,
you open up the plastic and just pour the milk
right in the box. That's a home run. But other
than that, don't give me no cup. I'll figure out
my own cup. I'm sorry, who is this?

Speaker 7 (17:00):
I'm Ali from Howard County.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
What's the matter? You got the isle anxiety? I do?

Speaker 7 (17:05):
Okay? So I only get it in the produce and
the meat section. I don't get it on the inner
aisle because no one's ever looking at you when you're looking.
They're all trying to figure out what can of beans toget.
But in the produce section, I feel like everyone's judging.
I just you know, there's just people walking around, so
it's like, am I getting the right tomato or whatever?
But the only I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
In Asian market, no kidding?

Speaker 3 (17:30):
The uh color that?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
The wait?

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Say again, we didn't talk about other people watching you?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh they do. They do talk about crowding. They do
talk about feeling crowded.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
So yeah, maybe the bean aisle doesn't have so much.
But I'll tell you what you're dealing with. Tell me
if I'm right. When you're when you're getting produce, you're
already questioning yourself as to whether is it is it ripe?
Is it not ripe? Is this the right one to
get or not? You're questioning yourself on all of that.
Aren't you right?

Speaker 7 (17:59):
Should I be by organic? Should I know you buy
an organic?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
If you are buying organic, go self check out and
just put it in as regular number one.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
But Martin's they give you the little gun. You can
do it all your stuff. You don't even have to
talk to anybody.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
No, that's true. But no, the but the I will
say this, and this is where this is where Menino
has also been helpful. Like you go shopping with Menino
enough you learn which one. And by the way, if
one thing is one day more ripe than another, who cares?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
It ain't the end of the world. So just come close.
You're fine.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
And I just stick to Asian markets because they don't
they don't care about anybody.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
No, because well there you got to run and chase
down the living crabs that are running down the hall
in half the time. You got to boop because the
smell is just killing.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
Your never hurt anyone, yea.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
By the way, I'll say this hardest hardest thing in
an Asian market is which And I'm not please don't
take this the wrong way, but like the same way,
the Romanian person was flipping out with cereal. Dude, walk
down the rice aisle at A. It's a whole section
at at A. At an Asian market, dude, there are
fifty thousand different rices in different companies. You don't know

(19:14):
which one to get. I have no idea.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
Yeah, I always like that. I hate a lot of Korean,
so I use my Google translator and I'll just have
a conversation with them and ask them which ones they like.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
The Oh that's pretty good, that's pretty good. Thank you, ma'am, thank.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
You, Yeah, thank you, you got it.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's weird. I would think people would get would get
the crazy anxiety at an Asian market because you don't
know what you're getting.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Kristen when you went down the street, Wait, should I.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Pop aron to Kristen? What was the What was the
Asian market that you and Mike went to?

Speaker 8 (19:53):
I believe it was.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Great Wall or something.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh, great Wall that could be yeah, think maybe k
or something on it to wearing great Wall is the
letter K Well, I don't remember, or were you shopping
kosher at the Great Wall? No? Remember?

Speaker 8 (20:11):
It was like a mixture of Asian and Latino. The
Asian market side was on one side and the Latino was.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
On the other side.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Neither of those words have a K in them. But anyway,
I'm sorry Tyler. You had a question.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Did she feel ale anxiety?

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (20:29):
Yeah, I couldn't read half of the.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I'm surprised you got you didn't say all of Oh
you know what that reminds me of? Real quick? What
is the new jersey sponsor on the caps Jersey?

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Isn't it for?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Is it Groupang or Group Coupang? Coupang? Yes? What is that?
Isn't that like Asian something.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I read about yesterday? Oh? It's it's it's South Korean?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, south Korean e commerce giant Kupang.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
But is it? Is it? If you go to coupang
dot com, does it come up in English? I clicked
on a link yesterday and I was like, what f
I can't read any of this? Yep, there you go.
How what I What does that say?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Kristin just said you could get half of it?

Speaker 1 (21:26):
See what I mean? Can you search? I'm being serious?
Can you search in English?

Speaker 3 (21:31):
What do you want to look for?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Advil? No? Okay, you can't go with the brand name, okay, ibuprofen.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Ib you it's suggesting.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Now pills came up, but I can't affirm that they
are what you're looking for. And why did so many
shirts with kittens faces on them also appear?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Is ib like? Is is ibuprofen? Like if you say
the word ibuprofen in China, is it.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
The same as it is here?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
It cat No, I don't know. I have no idea.
I clicked on that yesterday. I was like they got
to make it like like like if you go to Montreal,
like you could click on English or French on the website.
Is there a place to do that?

Speaker 5 (22:23):
There?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Don't say it.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
It says Coupang may not be a household name in America,
but I've never heard of it. But the Seattle based
outfit is Seattle is a fortune one hundred and fifty
company en listed on the New York Stock Exchange, most
popular e commerce platform in South Korea, and it's growing
fast in Taiwan and Japan.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
But they're based out of Seattle. So it says I
was just in Seattle over the summer. I never even
heard of them. They don't have a space down by
the gum.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Wall Product and retail restaurant delivery, video streaming cloud and
fintech services. They have coupang eats. Is that like Uber eats?

Speaker 3 (22:59):
It says it is is South Korea's Amazon?

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Is it really wow? How do you spell it?

Speaker 2 (23:04):
C o U p A n G.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
I was gonna ask Christ do you think k o
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