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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Either my brain doesn't allow me to work this way
and understand it. But there was a really bad mix
up at a hospital in like Seattle, like Northwest area,
right by like Seattle in Washington, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
For whatever reason, I can't grab it.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But they unplugged the wrong dude.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You mean what do you mean unplugged?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
There are two people on life support the well kind
of kind of so there's there's no no, no, no,
there was one guy on life support.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
There was one.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
He went on to life support because he fell unconscious
from choking on some steak.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
But close to home.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Maybe that's why I can't my brain doesn't get beyond that.
I'm looking in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Where do you get the food?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, So there's two guys and they live. They they
were in the hospital together. It sounds like like kind
of like a like they were in the home together, right, like.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
An assisted living.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I don't know, but yeah, like some kind of some
kind of hospital or something like that, right, Pardon me.
I was looking to see if I see how old
they are, and I don't know because if you think old,
but maybe they aren't. Anyway, two guys our roommates in
the hospital right, there's patient A and patient B and
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they're both.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
In the hospital. And patient A.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Maybe they're not old. Maybe that's why.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm confused, although being old would make this easier. Whatever,
they're people. Patient A and patient B share a hospital room. Okay, Okay,
patient A chokes on steak. Okay, well he did. He
choked on steak, fell unconscious and had to be put
on life support. Okay, damn they choked a dead. Well
(01:56):
he's not dead mean brain dead, but the well he is.
So the hospitals like, oh my god. So they they
put them on they put them on life support, and
they call the family to see what they want done.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oh, if he's got like a DNR type thing, yeah, or.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Like, hey, listen, here's the scenario.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
He choked on steak and he's brain dead, he's not
going to recover.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And the family said, Paul, which is horrible this you know,
but I mean, listen, this happens, right.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Is that often done over the phone?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I would say no, I would say yes, uns, no
local people maybe, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I mean if there's nobody, if there's nobody there, like
I don't have family here, I mean Jackie. But like
if they called my sister, I don't know why, but
follow along anyway, Like, not everybody got family right.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
There, So I love that you set this up as
a story. You don't understand that. But here, I'm gonna
think you're gonna tell it. We're gonna listen, and we
all better follow along.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So so they call in there like, hey, listen, he
choked on some steak. He's brain dead. What do you
want to do? And they said, oh, no, pull the plug, Like,
we don't want to live like that, right, So they
pull the plug.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
A couple of days go by and the family that
said pull the plug, they get a phone call from
their loved one that's in the hospital and they're like, whoa,
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Who whose plug was supposed to be pulled?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, they called the wrong family, So they called patient
b's family about patient A.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So they pulled the plug on patient at the direction
of Patient be's family.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, but patient BE also choked on No, this is
where I get confused.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Patient B.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
There's nothing wrong with their guy, I mean whatever he's
in the hospital for.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
But they thought, but.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He was also on life support.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
No, no, he's fine. Oh, but they thought they were
calling about patient B. They were calling about patient A.
They just called the wrong family.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
So they had the wrong file. Well, they pulled the
wrong file. How does that happen?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's where it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Gets confusing, because wouldn't they go, is this we're calling
about the guy? The guy who died is David Wells.
The guy who's alive is Mike Beecher. Right, so Wells
is Wells eats the steak and chokes. Beacher's fine, but
they call well, fine, he's in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He's you don't know for what now.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
They called Beacher's family and they're like, hey, you're lo
wouldn't they say the name you?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Would they think this?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
But he wasn't even on life support, no, no, yet.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And you know how I know that because a couple
of days after they pulled the plug, Beacher's family it
was his sister who had to make the decision. His
sister was the one that was like, pull the plug,
thinking it was her own brother. A couple of days later,
she gets a phone call.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's her brother and she's like, how are you calling me?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And he's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
They were like, oh, they called me about choking on
the steak.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And you dying.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
He goes, that wasn't me, that was Wells.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
So they knew each other. They were roommates at the hospital.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, they were in the same room.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh my god, as much as you hear of and
even when you have a surgery them coming in and
asking you forty times.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
What preced the guy choked on?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But I feel like.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
There are the point we keep getting We're certain you
haven't messed up, because people are nervous in a story
about others messing up that you may have messed up
the telling of it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
No, No, I think I got it right. I just
don't understand how it happens. Wouldn't they call and go, hey,
we're calling about David.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You would think they would identify the person by name.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Or would they just go, hey, we're calling to.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Sort of temper what is a really bad conversation?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Was that phone call the first notice the family even
had that their loved one was in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm gonna say no, they probably knew he was in
the hospital, but if he wasn't on life support, weren't
they shocked to find out the update was he was
on life support?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
No, no, if I'm in the hospital and I choke
on steak. Hold, it wasn't the patient. No, well they
don't know that the other patient you said didn't choke
on steak too and wasn't support.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
If I please, if I was in the hospital for surgery, right, yeah,
and I have to stay for four or five days.
Right when I was a kid, This is exactly what
happened when I when I shattered my wrist and they
had to operate. I was in the hospital for four days.
I had a roommate with me in the hospital.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Nice guy.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
He didn't have a sternam that went in his came out,
so they had to crack all of his ribs and
rebuild his rib cage.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
It's like fan syndrome. Who marfan syndrome? Okay, but we
were room ever asked him what was going on.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
He had ribs. So anyway, his parents that you'll choke on.
His parents brought us food every day, brought as Shipley's.
So anyway, if we so, you're just in there for
whatever reason. While I'm meeting my hospital meal, I'm meeting
my my, my steak, my Salisbury steak. And now I'm
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i'm i'm I'm unconscious, and I'm i'm I'm brain dead.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well, there's nothing wrong with you. You still have your
rib thing.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So this choking incident happened at the hospital. Yes, I
thought he went to the hospital.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
No, he's in the hospital and chokes on his Okay,
So now I can understand where the family would get
this news and be less aware.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Oh my god, that's horrible. What happened at the hospital?
Oh he choked on his steaks.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Okay. That fills in a little bit of a gap
that I thought was your own doing the No.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
No, they were both in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But instead of calling my relatives because I choked on
the steak, they called Tyler's relatives. And Tyler's relatives were like, well,
we don't want him to be brain dead of him,
that's not what they said. Unplug him, and so they did.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
And then Tyler calls his family. What are you doing
on calling? How many days removed was like two or three?
Because here there was a death notice published in the
local paper for him, for Wells or Beacher, for Beecher.
Well Beacher's alive, I know, but his family thought he died.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Oh so they even wrote that. They even sent in
an obituary for their own kid or the relative. Oh,
my goodness, well he's alive.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Good news. Oh I hope the paper printed a retraction.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
You can't be alive, you're dead, She recalls telling her
brother on the phone. Could do you imagine that phone call?
Who told Wells's family?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
He died? Days later, the medical examiner identified the body
in the funeral home as belonging to Wells. Yeah, that's
the guy who died on the stake. The examiner notified
next of kin, I'd be pissed. They told, so this
is now the son talking of Wells.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Wait, okay, the son of the real dead guy.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yes, they basically told me there was a medical emergency
regarding my father. He had been pronounced dead. It wasn't
for another two years that we found out about the
mix up and that strangers had decided to end care.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Why did it take two years?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Because, Diana, I'm trying to hide it under the rug.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Where they actively did they even realize their mistake right away? Wait?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Wait, say that again? So they were told he was
told what originally.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
That there had been a medical emergency which had he
choked on the steak, he had been pronounced dead.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Two years later?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Is when he found out that the roommate's family was
the one who said pulled the plug thinking it was
their own kit, their own relative.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
So then on August twenty sixth, two years later, I'm hot.
So this this still goes back to. So August ninth
was the death date run in the paper for the
not dead.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Guy for Beacher who's alive.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
On August twenty sixth, the same local paper published a
death notice for Wells. Oh got it right. So it
looks like there's a couple of lawsuits.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But isn't it weird that if they called, wouldn't they say, Hey, Hey,
I hope you're sitting I'm calling you about well They
probably said we're calling you about Beecher because that's who
they thought died. They clearly didn't go, we're calling you
about Wells, because they would have said, I don't even
(11:24):
know who Wells is, right, I mean, is this as
simple as were they in the wrong beds?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
They put? Yeah, I was gonna say they put the
wrong folder at the end of the bed.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh, I went the other way, I put I had
them swap beds.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
And was it really hard to identify these two? Is
that why we were relying on phone calls. Did they
not have twins?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, I mean non't they have a bracelet on them?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, you're in the hospital. And had they been id'd
What do you mean, Oh? I guess they did? No
contact information? See what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It's very hard to figure out what went south, how
did It's hard to figure out how it happened.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I see a lot of failure failure to disclose in
these lawsuits. Also, Sean, the son of Well, said his
dad would not have wanted to donate his organs.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh, but they did. They cut him up. I did
read that.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yes, they donated his organs, and his son was like, oh,
my dad was adamant, do not donate my organs.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But is that because the other guy was a donor?
I don't know he's alive. No, But did his file
or his ideas clearly said he was a donor. Yeah,
my god, this is terrible.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Except for the people who received the organs. Well, well,
now they got.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
The son said, I don't know if I'm going to
ever get over this, which you can understand.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean, several million dollars might help.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
But isn't that amazing Diane? I mean, she's stright. But
people often say Diane's the voice of reason, and then
she says stuff like that, No.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
She's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I mean, listen, the guy choked on steak. Other family
got to make the decision to end your father's life. Okay,
but it's not like it could be a billion dollars.
It doesn't change it.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I take it, yeah, but at least, I mean, I
would take.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
It all day. You know.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I like to financially bankrupt people.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I would.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Jackie is completely healthy right now. For a billion dollars,
I'd unplugger right this second.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Then they'll be fine. They just took away all that
accrued bto no. No.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
But it's like, but he was never coming back, so
you were, I mean you were so you were gonna
shivo the guy.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I don't want a stranger. It's not a strangers. The
roommate didn't make the decision. The family did.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Well, that is true.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
They didn't even know the guy. I take a billion
dollars for that. And I'm not even trying to bankrupt anybody.
But you got to get something.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
There's so many people in the comments, and this is
good on them. The original story that are just like
they can't get over the fact that it was the
phone call, and you're saying that's only because you think
of the geography of it all.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
There has to be that that has to be common.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Because people are saying, like you said in the comments
on the story, like they didn't do that until I
was able to come and fly to my loved one's
bedside and say goodbye.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
No way.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, if you can, if somebody is able to hang
on on life support, and then you can come be
with them as they're going.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I bet.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I bet that's the exception and not the rule.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I don't know, like if I had if I if I.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Had a cousin.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
In Massachusetts that's close North Dakota and they were like,
I'm the I'm the I'm the reach out, and they
were like, there was a horrible medical emergency.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He's choking on steak, he's brain dead. You probably make
that call on the phone.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I just think that there.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You think they're gonna say when can you get here?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
And I'll be like, well, I think that's not uncommon.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I could try to get there by the end of
the week.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Who did they talk to? Do you have that I
don't see that. Yeah, they talked to Beacher's sister. No
at the hospital, Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Somebody works in the hospital. Oh, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I don't know what position it is. I don't know
whose job it is at the hospital to call. But
somebody in the somebody in the hospital, Like was it
a doctor or was it a No, that's probably somebody's
job coordinator. That's probably somebody's job who's in I don't
know what job that is, but is in like family.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Like a patient liaison type person.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, but not not like, oh you can come back now,
but like somebody who knows how to handle that situation.
Cause you could hear it crying, you could hear yelling,
you could be called names like you don't know what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
So it's probably somebody who's trained in that.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, But I guess they just don't say we're calling
about your brother David, and she would have been I
don't have a brother David, I have Mike. Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Unless those two switch beds.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
And the wristband things being brought up quite a bit too.
That Diane wondered, is do you have any word or
talk of that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
On the wristbands.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Noah, No, I got nothing. I got nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That's what I'm saying. Like, when you get a surgery now,
they mark you with the sharpie, they ask you forty
times before you go under, what are you having done?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
But this guy wasn't having surgery. The only thing he was.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
A plug, right.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
You know what I mean? Like, I feel like there's
there's a procedural thing there that should be done.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I don't work in that field. You don't know. Thomas says.
If you take that billion right now, you and that
Broadway star are going to.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Live it up.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Line one, Hi, elliot in the morning. Yeah, Hi, who's
this is Mike from Baltimore. Yes, sir, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I don't know if I'm understanding.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
You're right, But how can a guy choke on steak
on life support?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
No, no, you're not listening. He choked on the I'm
telling you. He choked on the steak and that made
him unconscious and brain dead and that's what got.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Him to life support.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah. No, you can't eat when you're on life support.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
At a minute for Tyler and I to catch on
to that same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
So was it on me?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
That's my fault?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
As the communicator. That's my fault. That's my fault. My bad,
my bad, thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I didn't realize this until just now what they were
talking about. But people are finding it very ironic in
a story about misidentification, that you have blown the last
name of one of the patients. Isn't it Beecher?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
What is it? It's Wells, It is Wells.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
What's the other guy's last name?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Beeler?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
That changes everything?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Whatever changes everything?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
No, they just find it fun now.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
But I wrote it down and I can't read my writing.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
That was Beacher. Whatever, sue me.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I write the obituary.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Where am I going? Line too?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Hey Elliott, Hey, who's this.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
Hey, I'm Douglas from Richmond. Hey, you talk about geography.
My wife got was put in a room at the
hospital and the nurse tried to give her an insolent
shot and she's like, I don't need a shot because
they were gonna give her the shot from the patient
who had checked out the day before. So they don't
check records, except, like you said, for surgery. But if
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you're in the room, it's the wild West.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Elliott. Wait a minute, So she was gonna get the
medication for the person who checked out the day prior.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Yes, the nurse didn't even check. The nurse was adamant
that you're getting an insolent shot, and my wife's like, hell, no,
I'm not. And she went finally went back and checked
records and it was a person who had checked out
before her.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So what did they do.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's not there's an that's an isolated incident.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's not the wild West, no, no.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
But my point is it's like you said, it's geography.
They come in, they do, and sometimes they don't check.
You talk about wristbands. Yeah, they do for surgeries.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
But yeah, like every day dispensing a medication and stuff. Yeah,
they just write it down on that floor. Yeah, gave
them this, give them that.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Gave them this exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
All right, Bye, Hey, appreciate it, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
We received quite a few stories, some.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Rather mixups of like calling for the wrong pull.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Up, no no, no, Some very heartbreaking about distances people
have driven when loved ones. In this case, this was
a college boyfriend declared brain dead. I've seen eight hours,
ten hours, twelve hours to drive to get to places
before they pull the plug they're fortunate. But Hugh brings
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up a good point. What if they did allow this
sister to come and she gets there, looks at the
bed and it's not her brother, they'd be better off.
But the emotion, I can't imagine where that drive is
let right, when you are on a direct line to
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that hospital from wherever you live, right, it's got to
be it's scary for you to be on the road
because of what's running through your head. That's why they
tell you not to follow the ambulance, thank you, Elliott.
But then you get there, I feel like you could
potentially pass out and become a medical risk just standing
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there because your life had already changed however, many hours ago,
and now it's altered once again dramatically for the better.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Ye, yeah, it's altered for the better. I'm still suing,
by the way.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
It's just, Oh, it's really scary to read stories like that.
Oh I do think they are not a diamond doesn't No,
they're not.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
There's no way because then you'd hear about it all
the time.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
You'd hear about it all the time. But still this stuff.
Then when you have to go in, even if it's
for an outpatient procedure. You hear these things and you
have the outpatient though you're not in there with somebody
else where, they can swap you up. Has anybody said
that they had to make that call over the phone,
because I bet that happens all the time. I haven't
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seen because.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I want to use I want to use those organs quickly,
even though he was adamant about not using.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Let me grab line one. Hi Elliott in the morning. Yeah, Hi,
who's this?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
This is yes Cava. So two things.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
When you go into the emergency room or whether you're
go to have a surgical procedure, what have you. The
first thing they do is they slapped that bracelet on you,
So that's.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
The first thing.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
And even if they administer something as minimal as ibuprofen,
they're scanning it and then scanning a computer to make
sure that they have the right person.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Can I interrupt you for a second, Okay, sure, But
we don't know that this is an emergency room. These
guys are sharing a hospital room, so we're not in
the er.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
They've been in and are in the hospital right.
Speaker 9 (23:02):
Which means that they also get a brieflet because they
are obtaining a bed.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Is that true, they I would like to think. So, well,
there I'm asking, and I've been hospitalized for days, but
I'm trying to Yeah, I guess I did have a
band on while I was in the hospital for days.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
Right, yeah, I mean, I hear you. But the other
one is, okay, you got to call next with ken fine.
I would imagine that the name of that next of
kin person has to be in the paperwork.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I would hope that they say, hey.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Is this Brenda so and so.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
I would imagine you have to verify that or else
you're a violating hippo.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
See, But now keep in mind, they did call and
use the right names. So I'm call I'm sure they
called and said, hey, is this sister Beacher and she
was like yeah. They were like, listen, Mike's dead, like
Mike's brain dead. But it was actually David that was
brain dead. So they probably got all the names right.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Okay, so they're only but they're only using last names.
If the sister was married, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
You know, but they used the right names. They used
the right names, thank you. But that part makes sense
to me.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Some people are now saying maybe this was COVID policy. Oh,
because we're just a couple of years ago. The lawsuits new,
but the actual story goes back.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
No, because you would you'd still like, no, I guess,
I guess that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Not everybody got to go say goodbyes.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Lady Lover Forever.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's a great name.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Blue Sky says, well, the guy was brained at anyways,
the other family would have pulled him to eventually, so
unfortunate accident, but didn't change the outcome. See and you
say we're soft on Blue Sky.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
The can I tell you a story? I mean, it's
not it's not really to this.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
A buddy of mine's mom was in the was in
the hospital, right, and like a like a like assisted
living and what just like she was dying, right, and
she had a roommate in the in the hospital and
my buddy's mom and this goes this goes back a
number of years.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
But his mom died.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
In like late at night, almost into the middle of
the night, and so the when the doctors come running
in and everything, and they're trying to figure everything out,
and so you need the time of death.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Do you know who gave them the time of death?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
The roommate.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
They're like, yeah, I heard a gurgle at like ten seventeen,
so we'll.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Go with that.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Very exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
But okay, so yeah, she called it.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
James writes, how bad is this hospital? If the guy
could choke on a steak to the point that he
became brain dead, makes sense they'd mix up some files.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
No, no, it's but you could do that, like if
you if you just you stop breathing when you.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Chose, they're not going to hear that.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
And if you're not able to hit that clicker that
calls for help, especially if you're laying in Beecher's bed.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I don't know why I'm so stuck on.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
That because you wrote it down and can't read your
head writing. It's dealer
Either my brain doesn't allow me to work this way
and understand it. But there was a really bad mix
up at a hospital in like Seattle, like Northwest area,
right by like Seattle in Washington, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
For whatever reason, I can't grab it.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But they unplugged the wrong dude.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You mean what do you mean unplugged?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
There are two people on life support the well kind
of kind of so there's there's no no, no, no,
there was one guy on life support.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
There was one.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
He went on to life support because he fell unconscious
from choking on some steak.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
But close to home.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Maybe that's why I can't my brain doesn't get beyond that.
I'm looking in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Where do you get the food?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, So there's two guys and they live. They they
were in the hospital together. It sounds like like kind
of like a like they were in the home together, right, like.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
An assisted living.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I don't know, but yeah, like some kind of some
kind of hospital or something like that, right, Pardon me.
I was looking to see if I see how old
they are, and I don't know because if you think old,
but maybe they aren't. Anyway, two guys our roommates in
the hospital right, there's patient A and patient B and
(01:24):
they're both.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
In the hospital. And patient A.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Maybe they're not old. Maybe that's why.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm confused, although being old would make this easier. Whatever,
they're people. Patient A and patient B share a hospital room. Okay, Okay,
patient A chokes on steak. Okay, well he did. He
choked on steak, fell unconscious and had to be put
on life support. Okay, damn they choked a dead. Well
(01:56):
he's not dead mean brain dead, but the well he is.
So the hospitals like, oh my god. So they they
put them on they put them on life support, and
they call the family to see what they want done.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oh, if he's got like a DNR type thing, yeah, or.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Like, hey, listen, here's the scenario.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
He choked on steak and he's brain dead, he's not
going to recover.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What do you want to do?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And the family said, Paul, which is horrible this you know,
but I mean, listen, this happens, right.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Is that often done over the phone?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I would say no, I would say yes, uns, no
local people maybe, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I mean if there's nobody, if there's nobody there, like
I don't have family here, I mean Jackie. But like
if they called my sister, I don't know why, but
follow along anyway, Like, not everybody got family right.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
There, So I love that you set this up as
a story. You don't understand that. But here, I'm gonna
think you're gonna tell it. We're gonna listen, and we
all better follow along.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So so they call in there like, hey, listen, he
choked on some steak. He's brain dead. What do you
want to do? And they said, oh, no, pull the plug, Like,
we don't want to live like that, right, So they
pull the plug.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
A couple of days go by and the family that
said pull the plug, they get a phone call from
their loved one that's in the hospital and they're like, whoa,
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Who whose plug was supposed to be pulled?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, they called the wrong family, So they called patient
b's family about patient A.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So they pulled the plug on patient at the direction
of Patient be's family.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, but patient BE also choked on No, this is
where I get confused.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Patient B.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
There's nothing wrong with their guy, I mean whatever he's
in the hospital for.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
But they thought, but.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He was also on life support.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
No, no, he's fine. Oh, but they thought they were
calling about patient B. They were calling about patient A.
They just called the wrong family.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
So they had the wrong file. Well, they pulled the
wrong file. How does that happen?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's where it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Gets confusing, because wouldn't they go, is this we're calling
about the guy? The guy who died is David Wells.
The guy who's alive is Mike Beecher. Right, so Wells
is Wells eats the steak and chokes. Beacher's fine, but
they call well, fine, he's in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He's you don't know for what now.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
They called Beacher's family and they're like, hey, you're lo
wouldn't they say the name you?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Would they think this?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
But he wasn't even on life support, no, no, yet.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And you know how I know that because a couple
of days after they pulled the plug, Beacher's family it
was his sister who had to make the decision. His
sister was the one that was like, pull the plug,
thinking it was her own brother. A couple of days later,
she gets a phone call.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's her brother and she's like, how are you calling me?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And he's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
They were like, oh, they called me about choking on
the steak.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And you dying.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
He goes, that wasn't me, that was Wells.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
So they knew each other. They were roommates at the hospital.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, they were in the same room.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh my god, as much as you hear of and
even when you have a surgery them coming in and
asking you forty times.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
What preced the guy choked on?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
But I feel like.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
There are the point we keep getting We're certain you
haven't messed up, because people are nervous in a story
about others messing up that you may have messed up
the telling of it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
No, No, I think I got it right. I just
don't understand how it happens. Wouldn't they call and go, hey,
we're calling about David.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You would think they would identify the person by name.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Or would they just go, hey, we're calling to.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Sort of temper what is a really bad conversation?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Was that phone call the first notice the family even
had that their loved one was in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I'm gonna say no, they probably knew he was in
the hospital, but if he wasn't on life support, weren't
they shocked to find out the update was he was
on life support?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
No, no, if I'm in the hospital and I choke
on steak. Hold, it wasn't the patient. No, well they
don't know that the other patient you said didn't choke
on steak too and wasn't support.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
If I please, if I was in the hospital for surgery, right, yeah,
and I have to stay for four or five days.
Right when I was a kid, This is exactly what
happened when I when I shattered my wrist and they
had to operate. I was in the hospital for four days.
I had a roommate with me in the hospital.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Nice guy.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
He didn't have a sternam that went in his came out,
so they had to crack all of his ribs and
rebuild his rib cage.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
It's like fan syndrome. Who marfan syndrome? Okay, but we
were room ever asked him what was going on.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
He had ribs. So anyway, his parents that you'll choke on.
His parents brought us food every day, brought as Shipley's.
So anyway, if we so, you're just in there for
whatever reason. While I'm meeting my hospital meal, I'm meeting
my my, my steak, my Salisbury steak. And now I'm
(07:38):
i'm i'm I'm unconscious, and I'm i'm I'm brain dead.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well, there's nothing wrong with you. You still have your
rib thing.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So this choking incident happened at the hospital. Yes, I
thought he went to the hospital.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
No, he's in the hospital and chokes on his Okay,
So now I can understand where the family would get
this news and be less aware.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Oh my god, that's horrible. What happened at the hospital?
Oh he choked on his steaks.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Okay. That fills in a little bit of a gap
that I thought was your own doing the No.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
No, they were both in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But instead of calling my relatives because I choked on
the steak, they called Tyler's relatives. And Tyler's relatives were like, well,
we don't want him to be brain dead of him,
that's not what they said. Unplug him, and so they did.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
And then Tyler calls his family. What are you doing
on calling? How many days removed was like two or three?
Because here there was a death notice published in the
local paper for him, for Wells or Beacher, for Beecher.
Well Beacher's alive, I know, but his family thought he died.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Oh so they even wrote that. They even sent in
an obituary for their own kid or the relative. Oh,
my goodness, well he's alive.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Good news. Oh I hope the paper printed a retraction.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
You can't be alive, you're dead, She recalls telling her
brother on the phone. Could do you imagine that phone call?
Who told Wells's family?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
He died? Days later, the medical examiner identified the body
in the funeral home as belonging to Wells. Yeah, that's
the guy who died on the stake. The examiner notified
next of kin, I'd be pissed. They told, so this
is now the son talking of Wells.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Wait, okay, the son of the real dead guy.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yes, they basically told me there was a medical emergency
regarding my father. He had been pronounced dead. It wasn't
for another two years that we found out about the
mix up and that strangers had decided to end care.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Why did it take two years?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Because, Diana, I'm trying to hide it under the rug.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Where they actively did they even realize their mistake right away? Wait?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Wait, say that again? So they were told he was
told what originally.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
That there had been a medical emergency which had he
choked on the steak, he had been pronounced dead.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Two years later?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Is when he found out that the roommate's family was
the one who said pulled the plug thinking it was
their own kit, their own relative.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
So then on August twenty sixth, two years later, I'm hot.
So this this still goes back to. So August ninth
was the death date run in the paper for the
not dead.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Guy for Beacher who's alive.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
On August twenty sixth, the same local paper published a
death notice for Wells. Oh got it right. So it
looks like there's a couple of lawsuits.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
But isn't it weird that if they called, wouldn't they say, Hey, Hey,
I hope you're sitting I'm calling you about well They
probably said we're calling you about Beecher because that's who
they thought died. They clearly didn't go, we're calling you
about Wells, because they would have said, I don't even
(11:24):
know who Wells is, right, I mean, is this as
simple as were they in the wrong beds?
Speaker 4 (11:33):
They put? Yeah, I was gonna say they put the
wrong folder at the end of the bed.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh, I went the other way, I put I had
them swap beds.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
And was it really hard to identify these two? Is
that why we were relying on phone calls. Did they
not have twins?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, I mean non't they have a bracelet on them?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, you're in the hospital. And had they been id'd
What do you mean, Oh? I guess they did? No
contact information? See what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It's very hard to figure out what went south, how
did It's hard to figure out how it happened.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I see a lot of failure failure to disclose in
these lawsuits. Also, Sean, the son of Well, said his
dad would not have wanted to donate his organs.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh, but they did. They cut him up. I did
read that.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yes, they donated his organs, and his son was like, oh,
my dad was adamant, do not donate my organs.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But is that because the other guy was a donor?
I don't know he's alive. No, But did his file
or his ideas clearly said he was a donor. Yeah,
my god, this is terrible.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Except for the people who received the organs. Well, well,
now they got.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
The son said, I don't know if I'm going to
ever get over this, which you can understand.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean, several million dollars might help.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
But isn't that amazing Diane? I mean, she's stright. But
people often say Diane's the voice of reason, and then
she says stuff like that, No.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
She's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I mean, listen, the guy choked on steak. Other family
got to make the decision to end your father's life. Okay,
but it's not like it could be a billion dollars.
It doesn't change it.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I take it, yeah, but at least, I mean, I
would take.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
It all day. You know.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I like to financially bankrupt people.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I would.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Jackie is completely healthy right now. For a billion dollars,
I'd unplugger right this second.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Then they'll be fine. They just took away all that
accrued bto no. No.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
But it's like, but he was never coming back, so
you were, I mean you were so you were gonna
shivo the guy.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I don't want a stranger. It's not a strangers. The
roommate didn't make the decision. The family did.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Well, that is true.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
They didn't even know the guy. I take a billion
dollars for that. And I'm not even trying to bankrupt anybody.
But you got to get something.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
There's so many people in the comments, and this is
good on them. The original story that are just like
they can't get over the fact that it was the
phone call, and you're saying that's only because you think
of the geography of it all.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
There has to be that that has to be common.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Because people are saying, like you said in the comments
on the story, like they didn't do that until I
was able to come and fly to my loved one's
bedside and say goodbye.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
No way.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, if you can, if somebody is able to hang
on on life support, and then you can come be
with them as they're going.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I bet.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I bet that's the exception and not the rule.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I don't know, like if I had if I if I.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Had a cousin.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
In Massachusetts that's close North Dakota and they were like,
I'm the I'm the I'm the reach out, and they
were like, there was a horrible medical emergency.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He's choking on steak, he's brain dead. You probably make
that call on the phone.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I just think that there.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You think they're gonna say when can you get here?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
And I'll be like, well, I think that's not uncommon.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I could try to get there by the end of
the week.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Who did they talk to? Do you have that I
don't see that. Yeah, they talked to Beacher's sister. No
at the hospital, Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Somebody works in the hospital. Oh, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I don't know what position it is. I don't know
whose job it is at the hospital to call. But
somebody in the somebody in the hospital, Like was it
a doctor or was it a No, that's probably somebody's
job coordinator. That's probably somebody's job who's in I don't
know what job that is, but is in like family.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Like a patient liaison type person.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, but not not like, oh you can come back now,
but like somebody who knows how to handle that situation.
Cause you could hear it crying, you could hear yelling,
you could be called names like you don't know what's
going on.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
So it's probably somebody who's trained in that.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, But I guess they just don't say we're calling
about your brother David, and she would have been I
don't have a brother David, I have Mike. Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Unless those two switch beds.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
And the wristband things being brought up quite a bit too.
That Diane wondered, is do you have any word or
talk of that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
On the wristbands.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Noah, No, I got nothing. I got nothing.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
That's what I'm saying. Like, when you get a surgery now,
they mark you with the sharpie, they ask you forty
times before you go under, what are you having done?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
But this guy wasn't having surgery. The only thing he was.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
A plug, right.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
You know what I mean? Like, I feel like there's
there's a procedural thing there that should be done.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I don't work in that field. You don't know. Thomas says.
If you take that billion right now, you and that
Broadway star are going to.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Live it up.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Line one, Hi, elliot in the morning. Yeah, Hi, who's
this is Mike from Baltimore. Yes, sir, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I don't know if I'm understanding.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
You're right, But how can a guy choke on steak
on life support?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
No, no, you're not listening. He choked on the I'm
telling you. He choked on the steak and that made
him unconscious and brain dead and that's what got.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Him to life support.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah. No, you can't eat when you're on life support.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
At a minute for Tyler and I to catch on
to that same thing.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
So was it on me?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
That's my fault?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
As the communicator. That's my fault. That's my fault. My bad,
my bad, thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I didn't realize this until just now what they were
talking about. But people are finding it very ironic in
a story about misidentification, that you have blown the last
name of one of the patients. Isn't it Beecher?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
What is it? It's Wells, It is Wells.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
What's the other guy's last name?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Beeler?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Whatever?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:28):
That changes everything?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Whatever changes everything?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
No, they just find it fun now.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
But I wrote it down and I can't read my writing.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
That was Beacher. Whatever, sue me.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I write the obituary.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Where am I going? Line too?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Hey Elliott, Hey, who's this.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
Hey, I'm Douglas from Richmond. Hey, you talk about geography.
My wife got was put in a room at the
hospital and the nurse tried to give her an insolent
shot and she's like, I don't need a shot because
they were gonna give her the shot from the patient
who had checked out the day before. So they don't
check records, except, like you said, for surgery. But if
(19:18):
you're in the room, it's the wild West.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Elliott. Wait a minute, So she was gonna get the
medication for the person who checked out the day prior.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Yes, the nurse didn't even check. The nurse was adamant
that you're getting an insolent shot, and my wife's like, hell, no,
I'm not. And she went finally went back and checked
records and it was a person who had checked out
before her.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So what did they do.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's not there's an that's an isolated incident.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's not the wild West, no, no.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
But my point is it's like you said, it's geography.
They come in, they do, and sometimes they don't check.
You talk about wristbands. Yeah, they do for surgeries.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
But yeah, like every day dispensing a medication and stuff. Yeah,
they just write it down on that floor. Yeah, gave
them this, give them that.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Gave them this exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
All right, Bye, Hey, appreciate it, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
We received quite a few stories, some.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Rather mixups of like calling for the wrong pull.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Up, no no, no, Some very heartbreaking about distances people
have driven when loved ones. In this case, this was
a college boyfriend declared brain dead. I've seen eight hours,
ten hours, twelve hours to drive to get to places
before they pull the plug they're fortunate. But Hugh brings
(20:40):
up a good point. What if they did allow this
sister to come and she gets there, looks at the
bed and it's not her brother, they'd be better off.
But the emotion, I can't imagine where that drive is
let right, when you are on a direct line to
(21:01):
that hospital from wherever you live, right, it's got to
be it's scary for you to be on the road
because of what's running through your head. That's why they
tell you not to follow the ambulance, thank you, Elliott.
But then you get there, I feel like you could
potentially pass out and become a medical risk just standing
(21:23):
there because your life had already changed however, many hours ago,
and now it's altered once again dramatically for the better.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Ye, yeah, it's altered for the better. I'm still suing,
by the way.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
It's just, Oh, it's really scary to read stories like that.
Oh I do think they are not a diamond doesn't No,
they're not.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
There's no way because then you'd hear about it all
the time.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
You'd hear about it all the time. But still this stuff.
Then when you have to go in, even if it's
for an outpatient procedure. You hear these things and you
have the outpatient though you're not in there with somebody
else where, they can swap you up. Has anybody said
that they had to make that call over the phone,
because I bet that happens all the time. I haven't
(22:09):
seen because.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I want to use I want to use those organs quickly,
even though he was adamant about not using.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Let me grab line one. Hi Elliott in the morning. Yeah, Hi,
who's this?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
This is yes Cava. So two things.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
When you go into the emergency room or whether you're
go to have a surgical procedure, what have you. The
first thing they do is they slapped that bracelet on you,
So that's.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
The first thing.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
And even if they administer something as minimal as ibuprofen,
they're scanning it and then scanning a computer to make
sure that they have the right person.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Can I interrupt you for a second, Okay, sure, But
we don't know that this is an emergency room. These
guys are sharing a hospital room, so we're not in
the er.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
They've been in and are in the hospital right.
Speaker 9 (23:02):
Which means that they also get a brieflet because they
are obtaining a bed.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Is that true, they I would like to think. So, well,
there I'm asking, and I've been hospitalized for days, but
I'm trying to Yeah, I guess I did have a
band on while I was in the hospital for days.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
Right, yeah, I mean, I hear you. But the other
one is, okay, you got to call next with ken fine.
I would imagine that the name of that next of
kin person has to be in the paperwork.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I would hope that they say, hey.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Is this Brenda so and so.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
I would imagine you have to verify that or else
you're a violating hippo.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
See, But now keep in mind, they did call and
use the right names. So I'm call I'm sure they
called and said, hey, is this sister Beacher and she
was like yeah. They were like, listen, Mike's dead, like
Mike's brain dead. But it was actually David that was
brain dead. So they probably got all the names right.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Okay, so they're only but they're only using last names.
If the sister was married, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
You know, but they used the right names. They used
the right names, thank you. But that part makes sense
to me.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Some people are now saying maybe this was COVID policy. Oh,
because we're just a couple of years ago. The lawsuits new,
but the actual story goes back.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
No, because you would you'd still like, no, I guess,
I guess that's true.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Not everybody got to go say goodbyes.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Lady Lover Forever.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's a great name.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Blue Sky says, well, the guy was brained at anyways,
the other family would have pulled him to eventually, so
unfortunate accident, but didn't change the outcome. See and you
say we're soft on Blue Sky.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
The can I tell you a story? I mean, it's
not it's not really to this.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
A buddy of mine's mom was in the was in
the hospital, right, and like a like a like assisted
living and what just like she was dying, right, and
she had a roommate in the in the hospital and
my buddy's mom and this goes this goes back a
number of years.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
But his mom died.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
In like late at night, almost into the middle of
the night, and so the when the doctors come running
in and everything, and they're trying to figure everything out,
and so you need the time of death.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Do you know who gave them the time of death?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
The roommate.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
They're like, yeah, I heard a gurgle at like ten seventeen,
so we'll.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Go with that.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Very exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
But okay, so yeah, she called it.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
James writes, how bad is this hospital? If the guy
could choke on a steak to the point that he
became brain dead, makes sense they'd mix up some files.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
No, no, it's but you could do that, like if
you if you just you stop breathing when you.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Chose, they're not going to hear that.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
And if you're not able to hit that clicker that
calls for help, especially if you're laying in Beecher's bed.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I don't know why I'm so stuck on.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
That because you wrote it down and can't read your
head writing. It's dealer
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