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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Somebody sent me something for Diane. Well you'll understand, and
I printed it out and I were hand it to you,
and you haven't had the luxury of reading it.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I didn't read through the whole thing. It's kind of thick.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's called eight ways to respond when someone interrupts you. Yes,
interruptions are one of the most egregious communication violations, but
not all stem from the same place, thank you. It's
possible that someone's cutting in because they are neurodivergent. You're not,
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and have a difficult time focusing without speaking.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Now, I do have a different difficult time focusing, and
that that wasn't interrupting.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You took a natural pause, and I hopped right in there.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Other times, your conversation partner will clearly be making the
intentional choice to talk over you.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hold on, I have that correct answer.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
What they're saying is what I have to say is
more important than what you have to say, not in
some sense. In some sense, they've stopped on your self esteem.
They're putting themselves above you. What do you do about it?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's not talking over you, though, it's not interrupting if
you stop.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
When I stop, Yes, because it's doing no one any
good if it's two people talking over each other.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, right, No. But what I'm saying is I think a.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Lot oftentimes I will bow down.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
No, No, I think a lot of times you misconstrue
interrupting with you get to the end of a sentence
and the thoughts over, and then I hop in.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It's rarely when the thought is out, I was still
excuse me.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
No, But sometimes sometimes it's for a correction, And I
don't know everybody's.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Never for a correction.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Sometimes sometimes, I mean, I can't think of an example,
but sometimes maybe.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
But these are eight things to try. H what does
she previous?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Don't go you're going through them now?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I thought you're gonna tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Okay, Oh you're ready.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Did you read the whole thing you said?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
No headline asked experts exactly what to say when someone
interrupts you, right, first answer is just keep talking.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, that won't work in radio. No, that doesn't sound
prof that's not professional broadcast. That's worse than the interruption.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
If you take a pause, you allow the other person
to intervene. Exactly, it might sound like it's rude to
continue what you're saying, but it establishes power.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
The okay, why why are we trying to focus on
establishing power?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's just getting information out.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
A lot of talk shows, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Don't raise your voice, thank you or start to mumble,
right you were, I do that. You're not showing them
that you're being triggered by it, and you're not giving
them the emotions or attention that they are looking for.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Right, but Diane is not triggered by it. Not all
the time. Yeah, no, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Sometimes you'll hear me. Just go remember remember a while
ago when I was sighing a lot?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You do that all the time. Yeah, that's your interruption?
What Yeah? Where can somebody send me eight ways to
deal with sighing?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And you just said that Diane is not triggered about it,
so you are providing her opinions. Is that because since
she's presenting the story, you don't want her to editorialize.
Just facts matter, stick with your reporting. Elliott will tell
you how to feel. Well, he does that facts matter thing.
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I hear that the es just keep talking is not
going to work, right.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, well, no, nor should you like think how rude
that is to the listener. Uh.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
The next suggestion is say something like, Bob, I can't
hear you when you interrupt me.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh god, that's horrible.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Can you addressing Elliott? I can't hear you when you
interrupt me?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Nancy addressing people?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But the name gets their attention, But.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
The interrupting thing has almost for you, like everybody like, oh, interrupt, interrupt.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But it's not a common But when you use that phrasing, Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Excuse Diane, I can't hear you. You like interrupt me?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Do you like it?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Diane, I can't hear when you interrupt.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Me, when you use the person's name. It's not me
saying anything about you, it's me saying it about me.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I can't hear you.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Well, I just said, Diane, no, no, no, But I'm saying
I'm saying, like if I said Elliott, I can't hear
you when you when you interrupt me, I'm saying I
can't hear you.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So it's putting kind of putting it on me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Right, Oh okay, So it's your fault. It's Diane's fault
when I interrupt her. Again, that's her opinion.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Here's one that you use all the time that wait,
may I finish?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
So the interrupter uses this one, the.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
No, the interruptee yes.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
No, but you're using it though, and you're always the interrupter.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No. A lot of times, when when I will be
in the middle of talking, Diane will start to say
something and I'll just say, oh, I'm sorry, can I
may I finish?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Please?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
No, She's right, I'm doing what is actually etiquettely correct
when I get interrupted people when excuse me, when interrupts me? Sorry, Diane,
I can't hear you when you when I'm talking.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
People often make the mistake of a apologizing when they
are the ones being interrupted. Sorry, can I continue? Avoid
that you didn't do anything wrong?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, and nobody's saying you did do it.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
In a confident way where almost no one is going
to say no, you may not finish.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, that would be rude.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I wouldn't do that, but that if you, I'm so sorry,
if you go back, If you go back, I do
have to say that a lot. I do have to
say that a lot. Oh, I'm sorry, May I finish?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
A thought? I do have to say that a lot.
I do.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
The next suggestion is, elliot, I'll turn it over to
you when I finish my thought.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh that's kind of not for nothing, but that's kind
of being a bit.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
This is another example of how starting with someone's first
name instantly grabs their attention.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Once you have it, you're being really clear and setting
their expectations.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You're putting yourself in control of the situation.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, but doesn't that sound honestly, doesn't that sound like
you're being a little bit of a No.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It says I care about what you have to say.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Oh, it doesn't, Elliott.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I want to hear it, so don't worry about me
not valuing your perspective.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That is not how it comes off, Diane.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I'll turn it over to you as soon as I'm
done with my thought, meaning once you hear what I
have to say, then we'll let Diane take a breath.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
What about I'd like to finish my thoughts. Thanks for
your patience, lot, bitch. I don't even think he'd hear
that one now.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
No, I'm sorry, May I finish? Just let me finish
one thought? Is it so wrong I get to finish one?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Even when you tell someone you'll wrap up your last point,
they may continue to interrupt you. That's why it's important
to pair your verbal cues with body language.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
They've noticed that when interrupted people to retract, they rolled
their shoulders inward and tuck their necks in, almost like
they're trying to minimize themselves, like you're turtling.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, who does that?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Roll your shoulders backwards?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
But you know who did that?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, So it's almost like to the opposite, like sort
of like puff your chest out a little bit, put
them out, don't slap.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'd like to finish. That's right, christ tit's up.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You're commanding the room.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Excuse me, yes, Kristen, Sorry, you didn't get to finish
a thought either. This is you may be the biggest defender.
What you may be the biggest defender?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I am not.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You've done it four times to us during.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
This and we had to remind everybody the frequency in
which I have to say, may I please? Because I
followed the etiquette, may I please finish a thought?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
You've counted four times?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
All right, just right now? Yes?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, now if we go back to five forty eight
this morning, yeah, I would venture to guess that it's
been more than four times.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
For you that I had to shut you down. Yes, now.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I like this one. This one's bitchy.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Wait, that's why you like it?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yes, I just want to make sure is this a
conversation or do you need me to hear?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Good?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
One?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Good?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
One way to deliver? May she finish?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Take two?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I want to make sure is this a conversation or
do you need me here only to listen?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh that's rude, that's cold, that's rude.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
There are levels of how you were.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Divergent, Elliott, come on, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
There are levels to how you respond to an interruption,
and certainly isn't step one.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But no, that's turning the flame up to it.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
If it is happening over and over again. They like
this way of calling out the offense. It tends to
take care of it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You know who that is. That's Colin.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
He would say that Colin would start there. Oh yeah, definitely,
doesn't have to turn it up. It is already there, exactly.
There's no pack, there's no passive aggressive calendar out.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
There's only act aggressive Colinn. Here's another one.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
There have been a few times lately today included where
I felt like I haven't been able to share my
thoughts completely.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Oh that sounds like in summary. No, you know what
that sounds like. It sounds like someone needs a ambulance,
like someone's but hurt. Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I thought you're gonna say it was on my period?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But whenever, No, why would I say that? They said,
why would I say that?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Because you've said it countless times?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Or he plays the sound effect, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You got your period? Can I can I on rub
for one second?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Or what is what were we talking about the other day?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That was something that had to do with being OTR
that the whole topic was it?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
No, but it was like if something. It was like,
women do this when they're OTR. That's a laundry list,
bitch mode complaint.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
No, what was it?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
There was something, don't you remember? And I was asking women,
are you on the round?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So this was for the ACL injuries? Yeah, that's right,
that's right. That's what I save all my correlation. You
got your period on? If somebody tore an a c L,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
They said, if you're dealing with a repeat offender, you know,
maybe a colleague, I'm reading this verbatim, a colleague who
interjects every time you start to share an idea address
the issue in a one on one conversation. Pull that
person aside after the meeting and tell them you feel
like they aren't receptive to your thoughts because whenever you speak,
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they jump in.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That's what I was saying.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
It didn't seem like an in the moment line to use.
It felt like it was something after the fact, right,
I'll tell you this, Yep, that was very odd that
you waited for. Also because you noticed I did some
body languages there, right, and you were looking at me
like we were professionals.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
We are professional broadcasters. Let me go behind the curtain
for a moment, right when we get done. We have
an office.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
No other show does. We have an office, and.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Diane and I sit in there right for Diane leaves
before I do. However, every day, every day we're in
that office together, yes, and sometimes before the show, depending
on what time Diane gets here, whether I'm titian or not,
we're in there together where it's just the two of us,
and I greet her the same every day and give
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her kiss. And never once has Diane ever said, hey,
well it's just the two of us.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I don't want to embarrass you in front of everyone.
But Diane's never said a word, never said a word.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I don't get the context of where I would say
that if there was something what.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Diane, may I please finish my thought the No, what
I'm saying is that one you said, Oh, take them
aside and say something to them, like Tyler said afterwards
that you have afterwards every day every day.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
When you guys first started together, right, were there any
of those sidebar conversations. No, as you were learning each
other's mannerisms and.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Figuring out your chemistry.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
No, no, no, it's always.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Been flawless.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Except for the interrupting.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
No, it's always been a very smooth dance.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
This is a suggestion, Oh yes, where you can step
in if you are not the one who is being interrupted,
but you see it happening, then you could step in
to sort of run assistance for the person.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So this would be what I say.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, oh, Elliott, you were mentioning something about X, Y
or Z or No, it sounds like this would be
directed more toward me. You were mentioning something about X,
Y or Z. Could you elaborate more on that? So
then you're telling the person like no, no, no, no, you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Hush see your way out as an ab conversation. Yeah,
but it's not. It's ABC. She's talking to all of us.
You want me to be my way out of it.
But I could see I hadn't quite finished that thought.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Where after twenty five years, maybe you decide now I
need help.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I like that one though, because the next one where
I'm I have to remind Diane I would like to
finish a thought.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Maybe Tyler, that'd be a good place for you to go.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, Diane, please, you could approach your colleague.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Guy, you could.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Approach the colleague privately and say, you know, I noticed
you weren't able to finish your thoughts in the meeting today.
Would it be helpful, helpful in the future if I
jumped in.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh, so I'm helping you. That's me.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Oh that's Tyler.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Oh, oh or christ or Kristen. No, I jump into help.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Oh that's part of your interruption. You're actually assistant.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, there's something Diane does the same thing. What you'll
jump in.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Well, they're saying if you jump in on behalf of
a colleague that way, you know, here's something I've done
when I've been cut off. Here we go what that's
what it says?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh, I thought you were going to give an example.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
That's what this says.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Here's something that I've done when I've been cut off.
I don't know it if it'll be helpful for you,
but I just wanted to share it with you.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Right, and what do you? But what is it?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Whatever? Their example?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Just keep talking or heavy sigh into the mic.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
But that's not professional broadcasting. That sounds bad like my coughing?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
What coffee?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
My ribs are so bad?
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Well, at least your check wiped. I think it's karma.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh no, I took care of that. I took care
of that. I'm good lyne too, Hi Ellie in the morning.
What's up class?
Speaker 7 (16:45):
I was doing?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I'm doing great, man? What's going on?
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Not too much?
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Man?
Speaker 8 (16:49):
I just want to chime in here and let you
know because we talk about it all the time when
we're listening to you, me and my daughter that you
interrupt her all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Man.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
And this is one of those things where it's like
when someone tells you that you're being an a hole
and you're like.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
You can't say that.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
That's not for you to say.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Are you intimating the business? Scott calling in.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yes, why is the but why are you having that
conversation with your.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
Daughter, because we listened to you and you interrupt her
all the time. I'm not saying that that I have
the a whole conversation. I'm just saying in general, that's
like when someone says, hey, man, you're being an a
hole and you say.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
No, I'm not. I understand that. You understand. I understand
that you don't have to tell me that.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Ty here you are, but here you are saying no,
I don't do that. I don't do that, But you do.
You interrupt her all the time, especially in news.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
The no, but why are you? Like? What's the country?
So you look at your daughter and go, you know,
he's interrupting your no?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Or is he.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I did not get to finish. I did not get
to finish at that's the point of time. Oh my god,
you're interrupting me.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Jesus Christ. Can I just get a in edge Wines.
I just want to finish one thought. I'm just trying
to finish one thought. I'm sorry to in the middle
of my sentence interfere with the beginning of yours.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It did, But now you're ruining your daughter's ability.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
You're interrupting your daughter's ability to listen to the show
because all of a sudden, I am still not done,
because you have to be some kind of etiquette grammar
police on your end.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yes, I was wondering, that's.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You're interrupting him too. Let him finish your god thought.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I was wondering if is he using it as a
teaching moment?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
What is there to teach? Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Here, you want to know what the teaching the moment
should be. Elliot's getting ready to fix this.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
There you go. Well that fits this. The cough not doude.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
See that's how everybody feels.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh now I'm Diane. I'm running into the mic.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I like, all right, very good, thank you, sir, thank you,
my friend Ladder see so subtle.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Three a holes on that call.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Three not me, the a hole interrupters, Diane, that guy,
and that guy's daughter.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I was the only one that held true to etiquette
looking at the toad. Yep, that's right.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
That is a great line, though that the middle of
my sentence interrupted at getting of yours.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's good. That's always a good one. Where am I going?
Line three? Hi Elliott in the morning, your turn?
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, what can I do for you? Well?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Elliott. I like the fact that you get very defensive
about when someone calls you odd on something. But you
give examples of everyone else that interrupts when they're talking
except yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Notice no interruption though, Oh there you go. You're talking
all over your your feet are in my mouth. I'm
not defensive.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
No, not here, you are, keep it going, Elliott, am not.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Right now right there, not no, but you just pick
your excuse me, excuse me, hold on you hold on.
You are being nitpicky.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
I'm not being good picky. I listen to you long
enough to know that you interrupt Diane every time she
does use you interrupt Tyler, And even when you pick
up the phone for guests, you start an entirely different
conversation and then you remember that you have someone on
the line.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
We do oh yeah, no, I do that sometimes that
I'm your divergent.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Stop saying that come sometimes.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
All right, very good, very good. It's very nice to
talk to you. I'm glad that you could call.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
A good one.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
All right, talk to you later. Last one, Hi, Ellie
in the morning, Hey, tod good, who's this good?
Speaker 7 (20:57):
This is Tom and Boston. I actually want to give
it Elliott's and credit because when you guys have had
this argument before, you were always adamant that Diane interrupted
you more, and you seem to have eased on that
line a bit. And just for your reference, about ten
years ago, you guys had this debate, and where I
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was working at the time, it was into the entire day.
So within a week I was doing kick marks of
how many times you interrupted Diane versus her interrupting you,
and you filled up a page in three days and
Diane had like five interruptions, So it is.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Now you I had a page and a half that
Diane had five.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Yeah, I mean it was like I had to stop
in three days. There was so many interruptions.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'll talk to her about it.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
But you're not on the line that used to be
used to swear that she interrupted you more. And I
feel like you kind of eased on that, which is
it's just step forward.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
It's progress.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's because it's also I didn't have to because in
the last three phone calls it's all been on audio display.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Yeah. Yeah, but I think you're making progress, but definitely
you interrupted him. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
All right, very good, thank you, sir, Thank you, my friend.
Somebody sent me something for Diane. Well you'll understand, and
I printed it out and I were hand it to you,
and you haven't had the luxury of reading it.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I didn't read through the whole thing. It's kind of thick.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's called eight ways to respond when someone interrupts you. Yes,
interruptions are one of the most egregious communication violations, but
not all stem from the same place, thank you. It's
possible that someone's cutting in because they are neurodivergent. You're not,
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and have a difficult time focusing without speaking.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Now, I do have a different difficult time focusing, and
that that wasn't interrupting.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You took a natural pause, and I hopped right in there.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Other times, your conversation partner will clearly be making the
intentional choice to talk over you.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hold on, I have that correct answer.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
What they're saying is what I have to say is
more important than what you have to say, not in
some sense. In some sense, they've stopped on your self esteem.
They're putting themselves above you. What do you do about it?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's not talking over you, though, it's not interrupting if
you stop.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
When I stop, Yes, because it's doing no one any
good if it's two people talking over each other.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, right, No. But what I'm saying is I think a.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Lot oftentimes I will bow down.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
No, No, I think a lot of times you misconstrue
interrupting with you get to the end of a sentence
and the thoughts over, and then I hop in.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It's rarely when the thought is out, I was still
excuse me.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
No, But sometimes sometimes it's for a correction, And I
don't know everybody's.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Never for a correction.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Sometimes sometimes, I mean, I can't think of an example,
but sometimes maybe.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
But these are eight things to try. H what does
she previous?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Don't go you're going through them now?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I thought you're gonna tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Okay, Oh you're ready.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Did you read the whole thing you said?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
No headline asked experts exactly what to say when someone
interrupts you, right, first answer is just keep talking.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, that won't work in radio. No, that doesn't sound
prof that's not professional broadcast. That's worse than the interruption.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
If you take a pause, you allow the other person
to intervene. Exactly, it might sound like it's rude to
continue what you're saying, but it establishes power.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
The okay, why why are we trying to focus on
establishing power?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's just getting information out.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
A lot of talk shows, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Don't raise your voice, thank you or start to mumble,
right you were, I do that. You're not showing them
that you're being triggered by it, and you're not giving
them the emotions or attention that they are looking for.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Right, but Diane is not triggered by it. Not all
the time. Yeah, no, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Sometimes you'll hear me. Just go remember remember a while
ago when I was sighing a lot?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You do that all the time. Yeah, that's your interruption?
What Yeah? Where can somebody send me eight ways to
deal with sighing?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
And you just said that Diane is not triggered about it,
so you are providing her opinions. Is that because since
she's presenting the story, you don't want her to editorialize.
Just facts matter, stick with your reporting. Elliott will tell
you how to feel. Well, he does that facts matter thing.
(04:02):
I hear that the es just keep talking is not
going to work, right.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, well, no, nor should you like think how rude
that is to the listener. Uh.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
The next suggestion is say something like, Bob, I can't
hear you when you interrupt me.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh god, that's horrible.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Can you addressing Elliott? I can't hear you when you
interrupt me?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Nancy addressing people?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But the name gets their attention, But.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
The interrupting thing has almost for you, like everybody like, oh, interrupt, interrupt.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
But it's not a common But when you use that phrasing, Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Excuse Diane, I can't hear you. You like interrupt me?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Do you like it?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Diane, I can't hear when you interrupt.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Me, when you use the person's name. It's not me
saying anything about you, it's me saying it about me.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I can't hear you.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Well, I just said, Diane, no, no, no, But I'm saying
I'm saying, like if I said Elliott, I can't hear
you when you when you interrupt me, I'm saying I
can't hear you.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So it's putting kind of putting it on me.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Right, Oh okay, So it's your fault. It's Diane's fault
when I interrupt her. Again, that's her opinion.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Here's one that you use all the time that wait,
may I finish?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
So the interrupter uses this one, the.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
No, the interruptee yes.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
No, but you're using it though, and you're always the interrupter.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No. A lot of times, when when I will be
in the middle of talking, Diane will start to say
something and I'll just say, oh, I'm sorry, can I
may I finish?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Please?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
No, She's right, I'm doing what is actually etiquettely correct
when I get interrupted people when excuse me, when interrupts me? Sorry, Diane,
I can't hear you when you when I'm talking.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
People often make the mistake of a apologizing when they
are the ones being interrupted. Sorry, can I continue? Avoid
that you didn't do anything wrong?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, and nobody's saying you did do it.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
In a confident way where almost no one is going
to say no, you may not finish.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, that would be rude.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I wouldn't do that, but that if you, I'm so sorry,
if you go back, If you go back, I do
have to say that a lot. I do have to
say that a lot. Oh, I'm sorry, May I finish?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
A thought? I do have to say that a lot.
I do.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
The next suggestion is, elliot, I'll turn it over to
you when I finish my thought.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh that's kind of not for nothing, but that's kind
of being a bit.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
This is another example of how starting with someone's first
name instantly grabs their attention.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Once you have it, you're being really clear and setting
their expectations.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You're putting yourself in control of the situation.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, but doesn't that sound honestly, doesn't that sound like
you're being a little bit of a No.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It says I care about what you have to say.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Oh, it doesn't, Elliott.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I want to hear it, so don't worry about me
not valuing your perspective.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That is not how it comes off, Diane.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I'll turn it over to you as soon as I'm
done with my thought, meaning once you hear what I
have to say, then we'll let Diane take a breath.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
What about I'd like to finish my thoughts. Thanks for
your patience, lot, bitch. I don't even think he'd hear
that one now.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
No, I'm sorry, May I finish? Just let me finish
one thought? Is it so wrong I get to finish one?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Even when you tell someone you'll wrap up your last point,
they may continue to interrupt you. That's why it's important
to pair your verbal cues with body language.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
They've noticed that when interrupted people to retract, they rolled
their shoulders inward and tuck their necks in, almost like
they're trying to minimize themselves, like you're turtling.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, who does that?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Roll your shoulders backwards?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
But you know who did that?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, So it's almost like to the opposite, like sort
of like puff your chest out a little bit, put
them out, don't slap.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'd like to finish. That's right, christ tit's up.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You're commanding the room.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Excuse me, yes, Kristen, Sorry, you didn't get to finish
a thought either. This is you may be the biggest defender.
What you may be the biggest defender?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I am not.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You've done it four times to us during.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
This and we had to remind everybody the frequency in
which I have to say, may I please? Because I
followed the etiquette, may I please finish a thought?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
You've counted four times?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
All right, just right now? Yes?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah, now if we go back to five forty eight
this morning, yeah, I would venture to guess that it's
been more than four times.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
For you that I had to shut you down. Yes, now.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I like this one. This one's bitchy.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Wait, that's why you like it?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yes, I just want to make sure is this a
conversation or do you need me to hear?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Good?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
One?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Good?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
One way to deliver? May she finish?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Take two?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I want to make sure is this a conversation or
do you need me here only to listen?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh that's rude, that's cold, that's rude.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
There are levels of how you were.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Divergent, Elliott, come on, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
There are levels to how you respond to an interruption,
and certainly isn't step one.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But no, that's turning the flame up to it.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
If it is happening over and over again. They like
this way of calling out the offense. It tends to
take care of it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You know who that is. That's Colin.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
He would say that Colin would start there. Oh yeah, definitely,
doesn't have to turn it up. It is already there, exactly.
There's no pack, there's no passive aggressive calendar out.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
There's only act aggressive Colinn. Here's another one.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
There have been a few times lately today included where
I felt like I haven't been able to share my
thoughts completely.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Oh that sounds like in summary. No, you know what
that sounds like. It sounds like someone needs a ambulance,
like someone's but hurt. Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I thought you're gonna say it was on my period?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But whenever, No, why would I say that? They said,
why would I say that?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Because you've said it countless times?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Or he plays the sound effect, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You got your period? Can I can I on rub
for one second?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Or what is what were we talking about the other day?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That was something that had to do with being OTR
that the whole topic was it?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
No, but it was like if something. It was like,
women do this when they're OTR. That's a laundry list,
bitch mode complaint.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
No, what was it?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
There was something, don't you remember? And I was asking women,
are you on the round?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So this was for the ACL injuries? Yeah, that's right,
that's right. That's what I save all my correlation. You
got your period on? If somebody tore an a c L,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
They said, if you're dealing with a repeat offender, you know,
maybe a colleague, I'm reading this verbatim, a colleague who
interjects every time you start to share an idea address
the issue in a one on one conversation. Pull that
person aside after the meeting and tell them you feel
like they aren't receptive to your thoughts because whenever you speak,
(12:16):
they jump in.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
That's what I was saying.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
It didn't seem like an in the moment line to use.
It felt like it was something after the fact, right,
I'll tell you this, Yep, that was very odd that
you waited for. Also because you noticed I did some
body languages there, right, and you were looking at me
like we were professionals.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
We are professional broadcasters. Let me go behind the curtain
for a moment, right when we get done. We have
an office.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
No other show does. We have an office, and.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Diane and I sit in there right for Diane leaves
before I do. However, every day, every day we're in
that office together, yes, and sometimes before the show, depending
on what time Diane gets here, whether I'm titian or not,
we're in there together where it's just the two of us,
and I greet her the same every day and give
(13:17):
her kiss. And never once has Diane ever said, hey,
well it's just the two of us.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I don't want to embarrass you in front of everyone.
But Diane's never said a word, never said a word.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I don't get the context of where I would say
that if there was something what.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Diane, may I please finish my thought the No, what
I'm saying is that one you said, Oh, take them
aside and say something to them, like Tyler said afterwards
that you have afterwards every day every day.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
When you guys first started together, right, were there any
of those sidebar conversations. No, as you were learning each
other's mannerisms and.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Figuring out your chemistry.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
No, no, no, it's always.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Been flawless.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Except for the interrupting.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
No, it's always been a very smooth dance.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
This is a suggestion, Oh yes, where you can step
in if you are not the one who is being interrupted,
but you see it happening, then you could step in
to sort of run assistance for the person.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So this would be what I say.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, oh, Elliott, you were mentioning something about X, Y
or Z or No, it sounds like this would be
directed more toward me. You were mentioning something about X,
Y or Z. Could you elaborate more on that? So
then you're telling the person like no, no, no, no, you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Hush see your way out as an ab conversation. Yeah,
but it's not. It's ABC. She's talking to all of us.
You want me to be my way out of it.
But I could see I hadn't quite finished that thought.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Where after twenty five years, maybe you decide now I
need help.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I like that one though, because the next one where
I'm I have to remind Diane I would like to
finish a thought.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Maybe Tyler, that'd be a good place for you to go.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, Diane, please, you could approach your colleague.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Guy, you could.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Approach the colleague privately and say, you know, I noticed
you weren't able to finish your thoughts in the meeting today.
Would it be helpful, helpful in the future if I
jumped in.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Oh, so I'm helping you. That's me.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Oh that's Tyler.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Oh, oh or christ or Kristen. No, I jump into help.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Oh that's part of your interruption. You're actually assistant.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, there's something Diane does the same thing. What you'll
jump in.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Well, they're saying if you jump in on behalf of
a colleague that way, you know, here's something I've done
when I've been cut off. Here we go what that's
what it says?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh, I thought you were going to give an example.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
That's what this says.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Here's something that I've done when I've been cut off.
I don't know it if it'll be helpful for you,
but I just wanted to share it with you.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Right, and what do you? But what is it?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Whatever? Their example?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Just keep talking or heavy sigh into the mic.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
But that's not professional broadcasting. That sounds bad like my coughing?
Speaker 5 (16:28):
What coffee?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
My ribs are so bad?
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Well, at least your check wiped. I think it's karma.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh no, I took care of that. I took care
of that. I'm good lyne too, Hi Ellie in the morning.
What's up class?
Speaker 7 (16:45):
I was doing?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I'm doing great, man? What's going on?
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Not too much?
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Man?
Speaker 8 (16:49):
I just want to chime in here and let you
know because we talk about it all the time when
we're listening to you, me and my daughter that you
interrupt her all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Man.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
And this is one of those things where it's like
when someone tells you that you're being an a hole
and you're like.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
You can't say that.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
That's not for you to say.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Are you intimating the business? Scott calling in.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yes, why is the but why are you having that
conversation with your.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
Daughter, because we listened to you and you interrupt her
all the time. I'm not saying that that I have
the a whole conversation. I'm just saying in general, that's
like when someone says, hey, man, you're being an a
hole and you say.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
No, I'm not. I understand that. You understand. I understand
that you don't have to tell me that.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Ty here you are, but here you are saying no,
I don't do that. I don't do that, But you do.
You interrupt her all the time, especially in news.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
The no, but why are you? Like? What's the country?
So you look at your daughter and go, you know,
he's interrupting your no?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Or is he.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I did not get to finish. I did not get
to finish at that's the point of time. Oh my god,
you're interrupting me.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Jesus Christ. Can I just get a in edge Wines.
I just want to finish one thought. I'm just trying
to finish one thought. I'm sorry to in the middle
of my sentence interfere with the beginning of yours.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It did, But now you're ruining your daughter's ability.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
You're interrupting your daughter's ability to listen to the show
because all of a sudden, I am still not done,
because you have to be some kind of etiquette grammar
police on your end.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yes, I was wondering, that's.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You're interrupting him too. Let him finish your god thought.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I was wondering if is he using it as a
teaching moment?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
What is there to teach? Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Here, you want to know what the teaching the moment
should be. Elliot's getting ready to fix this.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
There you go. Well that fits this. The cough not doude.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
See that's how everybody feels.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh now I'm Diane. I'm running into the mic.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I like, all right, very good, thank you, sir, thank you,
my friend Ladder see so subtle.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Three a holes on that call.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Three not me, the a hole interrupters, Diane, that guy,
and that guy's daughter.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I was the only one that held true to etiquette
looking at the toad. Yep, that's right.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
That is a great line, though that the middle of
my sentence interrupted at getting of yours.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's good. That's always a good one. Where am I going?
Line three? Hi Elliott in the morning, your turn?
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, what can I do for you? Well?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Elliott. I like the fact that you get very defensive
about when someone calls you odd on something. But you
give examples of everyone else that interrupts when they're talking
except yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Notice no interruption though, Oh there you go. You're talking
all over your your feet are in my mouth. I'm
not defensive.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
No, not here, you are, keep it going, Elliott, am not.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Right now right there, not no, but you just pick
your excuse me, excuse me, hold on you hold on.
You are being nitpicky.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
I'm not being good picky. I listen to you long
enough to know that you interrupt Diane every time she
does use you interrupt Tyler, And even when you pick
up the phone for guests, you start an entirely different
conversation and then you remember that you have someone on
the line.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
We do oh yeah, no, I do that sometimes that
I'm your divergent.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Stop saying that come sometimes.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
All right, very good, very good. It's very nice to
talk to you. I'm glad that you could call.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
A good one.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
All right, talk to you later. Last one, Hi, Ellie
in the morning, Hey, tod good, who's this good?
Speaker 7 (20:57):
This is Tom and Boston. I actually want to give
it Elliott's and credit because when you guys have had
this argument before, you were always adamant that Diane interrupted
you more, and you seem to have eased on that
line a bit. And just for your reference, about ten
years ago, you guys had this debate, and where I
(21:18):
was working at the time, it was into the entire day.
So within a week I was doing kick marks of
how many times you interrupted Diane versus her interrupting you,
and you filled up a page in three days and
Diane had like five interruptions, So it is.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Now you I had a page and a half that
Diane had five.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Yeah, I mean it was like I had to stop
in three days. There was so many interruptions.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'll talk to her about it.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
But you're not on the line that used to be
used to swear that she interrupted you more. And I
feel like you kind of eased on that, which is
it's just step forward.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
It's progress.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's because it's also I didn't have to because in
the last three phone calls it's all been on audio display.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Yeah. Yeah, but I think you're making progress, but definitely
you interrupted him. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
All right, very good, thank you, sir, Thank you, my friend.
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