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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So there's a couple. What's their name. What's their name?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Karen Callahan and Joseph Nelson. I don't know that their
names matter, but it's a dude and a woman and
they dated, they lived together.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
They were a couple.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, and I guess at some point while they were together,
they ended up getting.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
A what kind of dog?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It is a golden doodle or something like that, Yeah,
a golden doodle. They named him Tucker, Okay, and they
had him for they had him for a number of years.
I don't know exactly how long, but it was like
they were together for a while. In twenty twenty two,
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Karen and Joseph break up and it has been a
fight over who gets the dog. Not uncommon now, remember
they weren't married, but even for people that were married,
not uncommon that, especially if there's.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
No kids involved or something. It's not uncommon for.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
There to be huge I don't like custody agreement.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, I don't like saying that, but yes, a huge
custody battle over pets, big Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
But you could line up all the phone lines.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh of people wait, who have who share custody or
just were in a custody battle?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Who had to figure something out.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh, well, anytime you have a pet, you have to
figure something out, like there's somebody there.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
At times when somebody might just say you can have
the dog.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh, I would do that. As much as I love
my dogs, I don't want to be single.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And have dogs. Okay, No I don't. Yeah, I don't.
Now you've always said that, and I have agreed with you,
but I didn't mean leaving dogs we already had. You're
ditching your pets.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, I would like if Jackie and I got divorced tomorrow. Yeah,
she gets the dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Meadow was throwing up yesterday and I wanted to just
suck the pain out of her mouth.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, by the way, I don't know she would want
me to say, there's a girl who works in the pit.
She shares custody with a dog. Like they go back
and forth, yeah, as to who.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Has like the dog?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Like the person in the pit gets the dog for
an x amount of time and then the other person
gets to.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
They do it like every few weeks. Were not my
story to tell, but I'll give you the whole introduction
the Yeah, but they do they do? Yeah? And is
it friendly? I believe so? Yes. So the exchanges go, well.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, like I don't know if they're like doing it
in a mall parking lot.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
They together, because that happens too.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's not my story to tell, but they share, they
share custody, but a lot of times it comes down
to a nasty, nasty Kristen, will you do me a favor?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Will you find me somebody.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That that had a either had or is currently having
a nasty I don't custody battle.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I guess I don't know what else to call. That's
what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's not like it diminishes kids.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
No, it doesn't. Yes, it makes you think it's kids. Yeah,
that's what I mean, diminished children. But you do think
we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, we're talking about a dog. We're talking about a dog.
And I listen, nobody loves a dog more than I do.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
But you'd leave him in a minute.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I don't want to be single and have dogs anyway,
not with my current job. Not with my current job anyway.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Where was I?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh, Kristen, will you see if you can find me
somebody who's in a custody battle or had a custody
battle when they broke up or.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Divorced over a dog.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
A cat a pet eight six six to Elliott eight
six six two three five five four six eight. So anyway,
let me get you back to this couple. They live
in Delaware and they couldn't figure it out. Now I
will tell you this, And.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
They've been fighting in court for three years.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Tucker is the dog, and Tucker was staying with the
with the guy, but she wanted custody of the dog.
And they have been fighting for three freaking years. Bad, bad,
it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Oh did I not give the number?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Sorry, Kristen eight six six to Elliott eight six six
two three five five four six eight.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But only over the dog. Correct, over custody of the dog.
It's not like the dog as a piece of a
larger puzzle.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
No, no, just over. They didn't have kids, none of that.
They were just fighting over custody of the dog.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Did you say how old the dog is?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Five?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
No? The dog, I don't know. The dog has years
on it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I was seven, because that's how many times you tell
a horse counts. No, I was. I was looking remember
the psychic chorus in Chesterfield?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Hey wait, can I get back to my story? So
they they finally went to court over who's gonna get custody?
And I love love what the judge did?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
What did the judge do? Private auction? Neither one gets it?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
No, no, no, it's between the two parties. Whoever pays more,
let me finish.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
A private auction.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And apparently you see this from time to time with
other disputes over property, which courts of rule?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Dogs are property? Sorry, private auction?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Are you ready? And I love this. They were both
able to bid.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
On the dog. So whoever places the highest bid gets
the dog.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Right, whoever yeah highest bid gets the dog.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Loser gets the money.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I and the judge was like, listen, you're somebody's not
getting the dog, but you are getting the money, right.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I love that. You know what that is?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That is? Well, you only had one kid, you'll know this.
This is how you teach your kids to share your guy,
I want the bigger half, you cut it, you pick
you know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
My head went to immediately, what's that? The playoff final
for the English Football League, the championship game where one
team is going to make it to the Premier League, right,
and that team is guaranteed two hundred and fifty million
dollars over the course of a couple seasons, right, the
loser goes back to the championship, but they get the
revenue from those days tickets. That's the arrangement. It's the
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world's richest soccer because of the money. You're guaranteed right
making it to the.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Two absolutely, but you know that for sharing.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Right, Yeah, that's a better example. Yeah, but it is.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Isn't that great? Isn't that a great way to solve
the dispute?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So do we know how the story ended? What was
what were the big I don't know what the bids were.
I don't know what the bids were. How much would
this get up to? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
But well, and that doesn't get explained in the story.
Was it just a one time bid?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Or do you go back and forth?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Because you know, if you say again, well, no, you
got to cap it, you got to cap But would
it be like at that point then then you got
to put in strategy dollar more?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Then I'll do a dollar more, Okay, five more? You
get the dogs. I got the money.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
What a great way to solve a dispute. I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So they signed off on it, say that the judge
ruled this. No, I'm well, I mean it happened.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So I'm guessing that they both fell to it and
were like, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
How great is this dog? Yeah? The yeah? Eight bucks
cheers the uh, this must be like the best pet ever.
The no.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But it's like, listen, I mean, I love my dogs.
I'd bit on my dogs if I were going to
keep them. I would bit on my dogs if you
were going to keep them. The no, because I just
said I wouldn't want that. Yes, but if I were
going to you're not.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
No.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
But if I you can't be single with anything tying
you down. True, that is true, but imagine doing it.
By the way, who gets the bed? Private auction?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Okay? What limit is? There isn't?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
There isn't To me, this may be the greatest way
to dissolve property disputes.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I don't know if you could do it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
This was in Delaware and they did say that sometimes
this happens.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But man, is that something? Did we know that Josh
shares a dog with his ex wife?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Like?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
How old is the dog? And how much hasn't he
been divorced forever? Jesus? I feel like he's talked about it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Also, Josh has never said he's had the dog. So
do they did or is this just him going, Oh,
I share custody. I get the dog the one day
a year that she can't take care of that.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah. No, he explains that their agreement, and prepare yourself, Josh,
he's going to judge it. Wherever the child goes, the
dog followed. No way, that's not true. You mean that's
not true. You don't believe him.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
No, because his daughter, his daughters come here before, okay,
and the dog's not here.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He doesn't have to be tethered to her. Say again,
doesn't have to be tethered to her. His daughter, His
daughter's a teenager. You when's the last time you saw
his child? She's like sixteen? Now, yeah, that's why I
said his daughter is a teenager. Yes, but I think
we haven't seen her since she was little. She's probably eight.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Well, I mean, how long has he been divorced?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Wait, so, anywhere the daughter goes, the dog goes.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But you wish they would have bid for it. Does
he wish that?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I bet not. I bet not. Does this have a
lot of people rethinking the agreements they made? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I don't even know what people do in a divorce
with pets.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I have no idea. Is it once like shared? A
lot of times it's shared? Is John?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But his josh Is are like they in that case
there's a child involved, right?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Is that common?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Where the dog? No, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't
do that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh, I got to take care of a kid and
a dog. The uh no, no, no no. But if I
if I like, for if.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I had the dogs, I'm not schlepping bed No, Jack,
get your own bed. The and I don't think I
would do that. You get to get your own dog.
I don't think I would do that. No offense, Josh,
I don't think I would do that. And you got
to teach kids like dogs don't go with you wherever
you go. And I'm not being critical of Josh. It worked,
(11:37):
it worked fine, I think. I mean, all this time,
never knew Josh had a dog.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
What if your ex is angry and out of just pettiness,
they make the dog run. No, they did a ton
of money just to punish you. Good. I get the money,
I mean, but you don't get the dog.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
That's okay, I get but I get something.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But clearly the dog means a lot to you, and
you you are a bad example.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
You don't want a pet, right, No, but you get
the money.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
But someone might say millions of dollars is not going
to replace this dog. Then you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I would get somebody walks up and gives me millions
of dollars. I'll drive my dogs to your house today. Absolutely,
And there are.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Plenty of people who would not do it either. For
five million dollars giving away my dog for any amount
of money, I am.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I'll give you both of my dogs, and I'll give
you the no, I'll give you one.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Hundred percent, I'll buy you new balls.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I'll buy you new balls, I'll drive them there, and
I will give you the ashes of all my previous
dogs for five million dollars. Absolutely, I get another dog
for free at wolf Trap.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I feel like, now really examining this, you could this
and could bring about some trouble. Oh, I think it's
a great idea. Where am I going? Kristin line two?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Hi Ellie at the morning, Hey what's going on?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But hey, what's going on? Dude?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Chiming in here? I almost went through that the dogs
I got, you know, going through a divorce wife tried to,
you know, do that, but then she decided she was
going to go to move to Hawaii to go to school,
and so she's like, I can't take the dogs with me,
so you can have them. Like, well, sweet, because I
was going to fight you for him anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Hey, can I ask you this though, like when you
were going through when you were going through the divorce,
did you learn in that process that like dog custody
becomes a huge deal in the process.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I I had no idea before, but I kind of
heard from people like well going through the process. But
luckily we didn't get to that because I don't know
it would have gotten nasty because I love my dogs
more than people.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You know.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Shoot, and I say, Eliot, you're full of crap. You
know nobody loves dogs.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
More than you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That is true.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
You would give your dog the way.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
For five million dollars? Yes, absolutely, five million bucks. Those
people have good money. They could take care of the dog.
That dog will live in a nicer house than I have.
I'm buying a new five million dollar house. And by
the way, you're crazy. If I showed up at your
house with the brinstruck and five million dollars, I guarantee
you I leave with your dogs. If I showed up
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at your house with five million dollars, I guarantdamn to you,
I leave with your dogs da in goodbye.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I think you're going to be in a very small minority.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, you know why because people are being dishonest, Because
people are like, oh, weld get my dogs up for anything. Yeah,
you would five million dollars. I just found somebody who
gave their dog up in an auction. So, yeah, it
happens because of the judge told him you had I
understand stand that. But people don't realize what five million
dollars looks like.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Okay, you also don't know if that's the number. You've
thrown that out there. Just somebody said millions of dollars,
I said five. Yeah, I said I wouldn't do it
for millions of dollars. I would, But this case it
could be. Oh, in this case, probably it's gonna be
much lower. Oh, I promise you it was. It wasn't
even one million dollars. No, it's probably like like a
few hundred.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Maybe I would if I had to guess, like fourteen
hundred and fifteen hundred, Okay, if I had to guess.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Oh, I bet it's hired than that. Do you think?
Speaker 8 (15:29):
So?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, I bet you're you're definitely like five grand.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No way you're bidding that much five figures.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I bet ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yes, I'm bidding on the dog, not you.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Goodbye, goodbye, No new balls though, that's only that's only
for million John dam.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Balls going on for three years. You said, yeah, yeah,
this is going to go for a crazy amount. Think
if the money people pay just to get a new
dog from a breeder.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Okay, yeah, I understand that, but I'm not paying ten grand.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And isn't golden do isn't that what my parents have?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
My bo allergenic?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
What does the license plate frame say, Oh, mom's god
doodle mom doodle.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, doesn't your mom have like a personal I'm a
doodle mommy.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, it says like.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Proud doodle parent, My doodle can beat up your doodle.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And on the eighth day God created golden doodle. That's it. Yep,
line to God.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I got everybody on hold hi Ellie in the morning,
on man.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Hey, what's going on? Brother? Hello? Are you there is
cloud force? I'm in trouble. Cloud Flair whatever space force. Hello,
they're in trouble. Where am I going?
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Is?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
There?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Are we jacked up?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
That's a couple that have dropped the whole system. I
decided today I hate iHeart all the audio stuff, between
the clicking and the pops and the nothing working. I've
just today I decided I hate the company. Hi, Ellie
in the morning, I'm telling you there's some jacked up
with the phone.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Hello, Hello, Hello, this is me.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, there you are good?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I fixed it, Yes, sir, what can I do for you? Hey?
Speaker 9 (17:27):
Sorry, I wasn't sure if it was.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Me or not.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's okay, that's okay, as weird as that sounds.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
So yeah, I just wanted to contribute to the conversation
that I mean, for five million dollars, I consider giving
up my dog. But that would still be a tough decision.
But yeah, I know for a fact that one of
my dogs would definitely be coming with me because she's
obsessed with me and wouldn't wouldn't be the same.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Dog without me, right, you know?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I mean that that is I wonder if like, are
you are you divorcer?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
No? The no, that's okay, no, good good.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I'm glad you're not the no, but I wonder if
that comes into play.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yes, Like, I don't know, does one of the dogs
favor you over Jackie or do they both favor her? Well,
that's incorrect.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I thought you were gonna say do they favor one
parent over the other? And I would say no, dogs
love us equally.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I've told you before. Meadow definitely prefers me. That's why
I get to put her down.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So yeah, I don't know, but that would be a fight.
Like if the judge said to Jackie and I, well
the dogs should stay with who do they favor more?
We would both argue each other. Jackie would be like,
well I lock them in the morning. I'd be like, yeah,
well go be a disc jockey and I'll walk them.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So, sir, your defense is go be a dj Yeah?
Do you always walk them in the afternoon? Where am
I going?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Elle in the morning?
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Who's this?
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Hi? I work in a law firm for general practice,
and we actually have done dog custody with divorces and children.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Is that let's leave children out of it for dogs?
Is it does? Does it get like?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't expect that it gets as nasty as it
does with kids.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Right, But with.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Dogs, like, does it like do you have to draft
up full on like custody agreement paperwork?
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Oh yeah, absolutely, it's part of the marital settlement agreement.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
What is the normal deciding factor when it comes to dogs?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Who wants them? And it's typically even if children aren't involved,
it does become like in every other weekend maybe uh,
you get them Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, they get them Thursday Friday,
and then there's a transfer. It's just like children.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Wow, God, can I ask you this? Can I ask
you this? If you're as a lawyer, as a lawyer,
do you does everybody in the office sit there and go,
I no, this is easy money.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I get it. Well, not easy, but this is money.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
And you're trying to solve a problem between two people
that can't come to a conclusion. But do you guys
sit in there go we're doing custody agreements on dogs?
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, no, no, I can't I get the money side
of it. Listen, I would call my law firm. Custody
and dogs.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Difference is But.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
The difference is is that with with dogs, we've never
had any kind of like support associated with that. There's
no connection of like dog support, like there is a
child support, but it's definitely a visitation. And we actually
have recently had someone call the office saying that my
ex wife isn't allowing me to have the dogs with
the children, because that's normally the association with the children, right,
(20:52):
Sometimes it's not. Sometimes it is just the animal itself.
And we've had to write letters to opposing counsels saying,
since she didn't let.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
The dog.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Bob come for the weekend, and you know, it's part
of the agreement, and it's costing them money for us
just to write a simple damn letter or an email.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right, but that's contempt of that's contempt of court. Exactly.
We signed all this.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
If it's a continuous pattern, then yes, exactly, and it
can lead to another court hearing for this dog visitation.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
God'd love to be that judge.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Hey, have you ever done one of those private auction bids?
On a private auction bid on property?
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Well, not really an auction bid, but we have had
auctions where the parties cannot agree to separating their property
and so it has become a you go in and
you go, okay, I want the couch. Okay, Well, if
you get the couch, and I want these two chairs.
If you get the bedroom set, I want the dining
room set. It's been like that.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
But that's a negotiation that I get.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That I get. That makes sense. That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Hey, I appreciate it. Thank you, lawyer.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So it is tied to the so, like Josh's scenario
is common, and I think jet.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I think the pit is the I think they do
it by week. I think they do it by week.
I heard another glitch there, which is why I thought
Dustin was checking in. But this shocked me. Oh no,
here we go. He sent me a photo of it's
Nicholas Valentine.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Nicholas Valentine. Is it wearing a fun sweater?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Did he just update you on the dog's walk report?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Gums are a bow tie? I can't tell. Oh.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Remember it had dental issues and he was all worried
because his last dog died in dental surgery.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But he wrote, bring your Brinks truck and take him. Damn.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, because people are just putting up a front five
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I'll be fine. I'll get another dog. Meanwhile, Hugh, here
we go.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, you know what, you should take five million for years.
It's not even alive.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I'd pay anything to have her back. You can't. So
five million?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, ask you on Lucy's.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Last Still, the holidays are going to be rough on them.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
On Lucy's last day, I bet he would have taken
five mil. Why for one last hug? You take five
mil all day?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Stop disappointing coming from you.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, but listen, I'm a realist. Hi Ellie the morning.
That's how you know I'm a real dog lover.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Is this me?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yes, sir, Hi, Yes.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I'm calling. When me and my ex got divorced, we
had two dogs. We got them at the same time,
had them for about three years. I pretty much took
care of them, walked them, fed them, took them to
the bed, all that stuff. But she wanted to separate them.
When we got divorced. She wanted she claims one was
hers and al was fine. Wanted to separate them. I
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gave her an ultimatum, either you can take both the dogs,
or I'm going to keep the dogs and off buy
you a new dog that I have no connection too.
And she decided she uh was just gonna get a
new dog, and I ended up with both the dogs
we had before.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
So you got both dogs and you had to buy
a third dog exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Oh, I don't know if I like that.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I don't know if I like that, but I guess
that's better than separating.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
You can't separate the dogs.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, I didn't want to separate them, and I didn't
feel that she would live up to the end up
truly taking care of the dog, and it would be miserable.
So I was like, well, I'll buy you a dog
that I have no connection to, and if you don't
take care of it, that's on you.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
It did end up costing me about a thousand bucks,
but you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
But you got to keep here. Listen, I would keep it.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And again, i'd get rid of them for five million,
but I'd keep them for a thousand.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Line three. Hi Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Elliott, Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Hi? This is Leah.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yes, Leah.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
I recently got divorced and I insisted that our dogs
were in the divorce agreement.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Are you sharing custody of the dogs or did one
of you just get full custody?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
One of us has one dog, one of us has
primary custody of the other dog, and we have visitation.
We never had children, So there are children, right.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Isn't that sad to like split them up though.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Well we had just recently gotten the youngest one. Yeah,
but they see each other three four times a week.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Okay, wow, because.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
I actually made sure I moved close enough that we
wouldn't be too far apart.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Are you serious? Yeah, for the good of the dogs.
Solely for the good of the dogs, or do you
guys also own a business? Again?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Well, I mean I have a job. I mean I
have a job. That I mean, I just wanted to
be like within a fifteen mile radius for work and
also just for the ease and seeing them both being Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I debate in my head that when we had, like
when the boys were young and at home, if we
got divorced, if I would if like, because like when
I grew up, my dad didn't live in the same
city we lived in, so I you know, I mean,
all I know is you see your parent a couple
of times a year if you're divorced. And then like
everybody I know whose parents got divorced, they they stayed close.
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And I was like, that's pretty nice. I don't know
if I would do that. I could promise you I
would not do it for a dog. I wouldn't say, like, well,
I have to live ten minutes because the dog three
four nights a week. I'm schlepping back and forth. How
do you like do anything on your own? You're just
back and forth. You may as well get remarried to
the guy. Ma'am, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I guess I'm sorry that guy. She went to go
and be a DJA. You wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Kids, no, no, but forget them.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Kids are gone.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You wouldn't stay close to your spouse, your expouse, so
for visitation over a dog.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I think it would be her decision to make because
I'm definitely getting Oh, there you go with the majority
of the custody.
So there's a couple. What's their name. What's their name?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Karen Callahan and Joseph Nelson. I don't know that their
names matter, but it's a dude and a woman and
they dated, they lived together.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
They were a couple.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, and I guess at some point while they were together,
they ended up getting.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
A what kind of dog?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It is a golden doodle or something like that, Yeah,
a golden doodle. They named him Tucker, Okay, and they
had him for they had him for a number of years.
I don't know exactly how long, but it was like
they were together for a while. In twenty twenty two,
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Karen and Joseph break up and it has been a
fight over who gets the dog. Not uncommon now, remember
they weren't married, but even for people that were married,
not uncommon that, especially if there's.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
No kids involved or something. It's not uncommon for.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
There to be huge I don't like custody agreement.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, I don't like saying that, but yes, a huge
custody battle over pets, big Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
But you could line up all the phone lines.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh of people wait, who have who share custody or
just were in a custody battle?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Who had to figure something out.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh, well, anytime you have a pet, you have to
figure something out, like there's somebody there.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
At times when somebody might just say you can have
the dog.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh, I would do that. As much as I love
my dogs, I don't want to be single.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And have dogs. Okay, No I don't. Yeah, I don't.
Now you've always said that, and I have agreed with you,
but I didn't mean leaving dogs we already had. You're
ditching your pets.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, I would like if Jackie and I got divorced tomorrow. Yeah,
she gets the dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Meadow was throwing up yesterday and I wanted to just
suck the pain out of her mouth.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, by the way, I don't know she would want
me to say, there's a girl who works in the pit.
She shares custody with a dog. Like they go back
and forth, yeah, as to who.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Has like the dog?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Like the person in the pit gets the dog for
an x amount of time and then the other person
gets to.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
They do it like every few weeks. Were not my
story to tell, but I'll give you the whole introduction
the Yeah, but they do they do? Yeah? And is
it friendly? I believe so? Yes. So the exchanges go, well.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, like I don't know if they're like doing it
in a mall parking lot.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
They together, because that happens too.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's not my story to tell, but they share, they
share custody, but a lot of times it comes down
to a nasty, nasty Kristen, will you do me a favor?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Will you find me somebody.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That that had a either had or is currently having
a nasty I don't custody battle.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I guess I don't know what else to call. That's
what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's not like it diminishes kids.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
No, it doesn't. Yes, it makes you think it's kids. Yeah,
that's what I mean, diminished children. But you do think
we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, we're talking about a dog. We're talking about a dog.
And I listen, nobody loves a dog more than I do.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
But you'd leave him in a minute.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I don't want to be single and have dogs anyway,
not with my current job. Not with my current job anyway.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Where was I?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh, Kristen, will you see if you can find me
somebody who's in a custody battle or had a custody
battle when they broke up or.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Divorced over a dog.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
A cat a pet eight six six to Elliott eight
six six two three five five four six eight. So anyway,
let me get you back to this couple. They live
in Delaware and they couldn't figure it out. Now I
will tell you this, And.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
They've been fighting in court for three years.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Tucker is the dog, and Tucker was staying with the
with the guy, but she wanted custody of the dog.
And they have been fighting for three freaking years. Bad, bad,
it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Oh did I not give the number?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Sorry, Kristen eight six six to Elliott eight six six
two three five five four six eight.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But only over the dog. Correct, over custody of the dog.
It's not like the dog as a piece of a
larger puzzle.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
No, no, just over. They didn't have kids, none of that.
They were just fighting over custody of the dog.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Did you say how old the dog is?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Five?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
No? The dog, I don't know. The dog has years
on it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I was seven, because that's how many times you tell
a horse counts. No, I was. I was looking remember
the psychic chorus in Chesterfield?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Hey wait, can I get back to my story? So
they they finally went to court over who's gonna get custody?
And I love love what the judge did?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
What did the judge do? Private auction? Neither one gets it?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
No, no, no, it's between the two parties. Whoever pays more,
let me finish.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
A private auction.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And apparently you see this from time to time with
other disputes over property, which courts of rule?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Dogs are property? Sorry, private auction?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Are you ready? And I love this. They were both
able to bid.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
On the dog. So whoever places the highest bid gets
the dog.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Right, whoever yeah highest bid gets the dog.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Loser gets the money.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I and the judge was like, listen, you're somebody's not
getting the dog, but you are getting the money, right.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I love that. You know what that is?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That is? Well, you only had one kid, you'll know this.
This is how you teach your kids to share your guy,
I want the bigger half, you cut it, you pick
you know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
My head went to immediately, what's that? The playoff final
for the English Football League, the championship game where one
team is going to make it to the Premier League, right,
and that team is guaranteed two hundred and fifty million
dollars over the course of a couple seasons, right, the
loser goes back to the championship, but they get the
revenue from those days tickets. That's the arrangement. It's the
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world's richest soccer because of the money. You're guaranteed right
making it to the.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Two absolutely, but you know that for sharing.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Right, Yeah, that's a better example. Yeah, but it is.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Isn't that great? Isn't that a great way to solve
the dispute?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So do we know how the story ended? What was
what were the big I don't know what the bids were.
I don't know what the bids were. How much would
this get up to? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
But well, and that doesn't get explained in the story.
Was it just a one time bid?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Or do you go back and forth?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Because you know, if you say again, well, no, you
got to cap it, you got to cap But would
it be like at that point then then you got
to put in strategy dollar more?
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Then I'll do a dollar more, Okay, five more? You
get the dogs. I got the money.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
What a great way to solve a dispute. I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So they signed off on it, say that the judge
ruled this. No, I'm well, I mean it happened.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
So I'm guessing that they both fell to it and
were like, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
How great is this dog? Yeah? The yeah? Eight bucks
cheers the uh, this must be like the best pet ever.
The no.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
But it's like, listen, I mean, I love my dogs.
I'd bit on my dogs if I were going to
keep them. I would bit on my dogs if you
were going to keep them. The no, because I just
said I wouldn't want that. Yes, but if I were
going to you're not.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
No.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
But if I you can't be single with anything tying
you down. True, that is true, but imagine doing it.
By the way, who gets the bed? Private auction?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Okay? What limit is? There isn't?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
There isn't To me, this may be the greatest way
to dissolve property disputes.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
I don't know if you could do it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
This was in Delaware and they did say that sometimes
this happens.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But man, is that something? Did we know that Josh
shares a dog with his ex wife?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Like?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
How old is the dog? And how much hasn't he
been divorced forever? Jesus? I feel like he's talked about it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Also, Josh has never said he's had the dog. So
do they did or is this just him going, Oh,
I share custody. I get the dog the one day
a year that she can't take care of that.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah. No, he explains that their agreement, and prepare yourself, Josh,
he's going to judge it. Wherever the child goes, the
dog followed. No way, that's not true. You mean that's
not true. You don't believe him.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
No, because his daughter, his daughters come here before, okay,
and the dog's not here.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He doesn't have to be tethered to her. Say again,
doesn't have to be tethered to her. His daughter, His
daughter's a teenager. You when's the last time you saw
his child? She's like sixteen? Now, yeah, that's why I
said his daughter is a teenager. Yes, but I think
we haven't seen her since she was little. She's probably eight.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Well, I mean, how long has he been divorced?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Wait, so, anywhere the daughter goes, the dog goes.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But you wish they would have bid for it. Does
he wish that?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I bet not. I bet not. Does this have a
lot of people rethinking the agreements they made? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I don't even know what people do in a divorce
with pets.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I have no idea. Is it once like shared? A
lot of times it's shared? Is John?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But his josh Is are like they in that case
there's a child involved, right?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Is that common?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Where the dog? No, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't
do that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh, I got to take care of a kid and
a dog. The uh no, no, no no. But if I
if I like, for if.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I had the dogs, I'm not schlepping bed No, Jack,
get your own bed. The and I don't think I
would do that. You get to get your own dog.
I don't think I would do that. No offense, Josh,
I don't think I would do that. And you got
to teach kids like dogs don't go with you wherever
you go. And I'm not being critical of Josh. It worked,
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it worked fine, I think. I mean, all this time,
never knew Josh had a dog.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
What if your ex is angry and out of just pettiness,
they make the dog run. No, they did a ton
of money just to punish you. Good. I get the money,
I mean, but you don't get the dog.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
That's okay, I get but I get something.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But clearly the dog means a lot to you, and
you you are a bad example.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
You don't want a pet, right, No, but you get
the money.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
But someone might say millions of dollars is not going
to replace this dog. Then you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I would get somebody walks up and gives me millions
of dollars. I'll drive my dogs to your house today. Absolutely,
And there are.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Plenty of people who would not do it either. For
five million dollars giving away my dog for any amount
of money, I am.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I'll give you both of my dogs, and I'll give
you the no, I'll give you one.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Hundred percent, I'll buy you new balls.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I'll buy you new balls, I'll drive them there, and
I will give you the ashes of all my previous
dogs for five million dollars. Absolutely, I get another dog
for free at wolf Trap.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I feel like, now really examining this, you could this
and could bring about some trouble. Oh, I think it's
a great idea. Where am I going? Kristin line two?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Hi Ellie at the morning, Hey what's going on?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But hey, what's going on? Dude?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Chiming in here? I almost went through that the dogs
I got, you know, going through a divorce wife tried to,
you know, do that, but then she decided she was
going to go to move to Hawaii to go to school,
and so she's like, I can't take the dogs with me,
so you can have them. Like, well, sweet, because I
was going to fight you for him anyway.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Hey, can I ask you this though, like when you
were going through when you were going through the divorce,
did you learn in that process that like dog custody
becomes a huge deal in the process.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I I had no idea before, but I kind of
heard from people like well going through the process. But
luckily we didn't get to that because I don't know
it would have gotten nasty because I love my dogs
more than people.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
You know.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Shoot, and I say, Eliot, you're full of crap. You
know nobody loves dogs.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
More than you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That is true.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
You would give your dog the way.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
For five million dollars? Yes, absolutely, five million bucks. Those
people have good money. They could take care of the dog.
That dog will live in a nicer house than I have.
I'm buying a new five million dollar house. And by
the way, you're crazy. If I showed up at your
house with the brinstruck and five million dollars, I guarantee
you I leave with your dogs. If I showed up
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at your house with five million dollars, I guarantdamn to you,
I leave with your dogs da in goodbye.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I think you're going to be in a very small minority.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No, you know why because people are being dishonest, Because
people are like, oh, weld get my dogs up for anything. Yeah,
you would five million dollars. I just found somebody who
gave their dog up in an auction. So, yeah, it
happens because of the judge told him you had I
understand stand that. But people don't realize what five million
dollars looks like.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Okay, you also don't know if that's the number. You've
thrown that out there. Just somebody said millions of dollars,
I said five. Yeah, I said I wouldn't do it
for millions of dollars. I would, But this case it
could be. Oh, in this case, probably it's gonna be
much lower. Oh, I promise you it was. It wasn't
even one million dollars. No, it's probably like like a
few hundred.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Maybe I would if I had to guess, like fourteen
hundred and fifteen hundred, Okay, if I had to guess.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Oh, I bet it's hired than that. Do you think?
Speaker 8 (15:29):
So?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, I bet you're you're definitely like five grand.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No way you're bidding that much five figures.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I bet ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yes, I'm bidding on the dog, not you.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Goodbye, goodbye, No new balls though, that's only that's only
for million John dam.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Balls going on for three years. You said, yeah, yeah,
this is going to go for a crazy amount. Think
if the money people pay just to get a new
dog from a breeder.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Okay, yeah, I understand that, but I'm not paying ten grand.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And isn't golden do isn't that what my parents have?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
My bo allergenic?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
What does the license plate frame say, Oh, mom's god
doodle mom doodle.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, doesn't your mom have like a personal I'm a
doodle mommy.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, it says like.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Proud doodle parent, My doodle can beat up your doodle.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And on the eighth day God created golden doodle. That's it. Yep,
line to God.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I got everybody on hold hi Ellie in the morning,
on man.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Hey, what's going on? Brother? Hello? Are you there is
cloud force? I'm in trouble. Cloud Flair whatever space force. Hello,
they're in trouble. Where am I going?
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Is?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
There?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Are we jacked up?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
That's a couple that have dropped the whole system. I
decided today I hate iHeart all the audio stuff, between
the clicking and the pops and the nothing working. I've
just today I decided I hate the company. Hi, Ellie
in the morning, I'm telling you there's some jacked up
with the phone.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Hello, Hello, Hello, this is me.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, there you are good?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I fixed it, Yes, sir, what can I do for you? Hey?
Speaker 9 (17:27):
Sorry, I wasn't sure if it was.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Me or not.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's okay, that's okay, as weird as that sounds.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
So yeah, I just wanted to contribute to the conversation
that I mean, for five million dollars, I consider giving
up my dog. But that would still be a tough decision.
But yeah, I know for a fact that one of
my dogs would definitely be coming with me because she's
obsessed with me and wouldn't wouldn't be the same.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Dog without me, right, you know?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I mean that that is I wonder if like, are
you are you divorcer?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
No? The no, that's okay, no, good good.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I'm glad you're not the no, but I wonder if
that comes into play.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yes, Like, I don't know, does one of the dogs
favor you over Jackie or do they both favor her? Well,
that's incorrect.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I thought you were gonna say do they favor one
parent over the other? And I would say no, dogs
love us equally.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I've told you before. Meadow definitely prefers me. That's why
I get to put her down.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So yeah, I don't know, but that would be a fight.
Like if the judge said to Jackie and I, well
the dogs should stay with who do they favor more?
We would both argue each other. Jackie would be like,
well I lock them in the morning. I'd be like, yeah,
well go be a disc jockey and I'll walk them.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So, sir, your defense is go be a dj Yeah?
Do you always walk them in the afternoon? Where am
I going?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Elle in the morning?
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Who's this?
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Hi? I work in a law firm for general practice,
and we actually have done dog custody with divorces and children.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Is that let's leave children out of it for dogs?
Is it does? Does it get like?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't expect that it gets as nasty as it
does with kids.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Right, But with.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Dogs, like, does it like do you have to draft
up full on like custody agreement paperwork?
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Oh yeah, absolutely, it's part of the marital settlement agreement.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
What is the normal deciding factor when it comes to dogs?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Who wants them? And it's typically even if children aren't involved,
it does become like in every other weekend maybe uh,
you get them Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, they get them Thursday Friday,
and then there's a transfer. It's just like children.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Wow, God, can I ask you this? Can I ask
you this? If you're as a lawyer, as a lawyer,
do you does everybody in the office sit there and go,
I no, this is easy money.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I get it. Well, not easy, but this is money.
I get it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
And you're trying to solve a problem between two people
that can't come to a conclusion. But do you guys
sit in there go we're doing custody agreements on dogs?
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, no, no, I can't I get the money side
of it. Listen, I would call my law firm. Custody
and dogs.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
Difference is But.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
The difference is is that with with dogs, we've never
had any kind of like support associated with that. There's
no connection of like dog support, like there is a
child support, but it's definitely a visitation. And we actually
have recently had someone call the office saying that my
ex wife isn't allowing me to have the dogs with
the children, because that's normally the association with the children, right,
(20:52):
Sometimes it's not. Sometimes it is just the animal itself.
And we've had to write letters to opposing counsels saying,
since she didn't let.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
The dog.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Bob come for the weekend, and you know, it's part
of the agreement, and it's costing them money for us
just to write a simple damn letter or an email.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right, but that's contempt of that's contempt of court. Exactly.
We signed all this.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
If it's a continuous pattern, then yes, exactly, and it
can lead to another court hearing for this dog visitation.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
God'd love to be that judge.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Hey, have you ever done one of those private auction bids?
On a private auction bid on property?
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Well, not really an auction bid, but we have had
auctions where the parties cannot agree to separating their property
and so it has become a you go in and
you go, okay, I want the couch. Okay, Well, if
you get the couch, and I want these two chairs.
If you get the bedroom set, I want the dining
room set. It's been like that.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
But that's a negotiation that I get.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That I get. That makes sense. That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Hey, I appreciate it. Thank you, lawyer.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So it is tied to the so, like Josh's scenario
is common, and I think jet.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I think the pit is the I think they do
it by week. I think they do it by week.
I heard another glitch there, which is why I thought
Dustin was checking in. But this shocked me. Oh no,
here we go. He sent me a photo of it's
Nicholas Valentine.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Nicholas Valentine. Is it wearing a fun sweater?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Did he just update you on the dog's walk report?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Gums are a bow tie? I can't tell. Oh.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Remember it had dental issues and he was all worried
because his last dog died in dental surgery.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But he wrote, bring your Brinks truck and take him. Damn.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, because people are just putting up a front five
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I'll be fine. I'll get another dog. Meanwhile, Hugh, here
we go.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, you know what, you should take five million for years.
It's not even alive.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I'd pay anything to have her back. You can't. So
five million?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, ask you on Lucy's.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Last Still, the holidays are going to be rough on them.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
On Lucy's last day, I bet he would have taken
five mil. Why for one last hug? You take five
mil all day?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Stop disappointing coming from you.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, but listen, I'm a realist. Hi Ellie the morning.
That's how you know I'm a real dog lover.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Is this me?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yes, sir, Hi, Yes.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I'm calling. When me and my ex got divorced, we
had two dogs. We got them at the same time,
had them for about three years. I pretty much took
care of them, walked them, fed them, took them to
the bed, all that stuff. But she wanted to separate them.
When we got divorced. She wanted she claims one was
hers and al was fine. Wanted to separate them. I
(23:52):
gave her an ultimatum, either you can take both the dogs,
or I'm going to keep the dogs and off buy
you a new dog that I have no connection too.
And she decided she uh was just gonna get a
new dog, and I ended up with both the dogs
we had before.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
So you got both dogs and you had to buy
a third dog exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Oh, I don't know if I like that.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I don't know if I like that, but I guess
that's better than separating.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
You can't separate the dogs.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Yeah, I didn't want to separate them, and I didn't
feel that she would live up to the end up
truly taking care of the dog, and it would be miserable.
So I was like, well, I'll buy you a dog
that I have no connection to, and if you don't
take care of it, that's on you.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
It did end up costing me about a thousand bucks,
but you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
But you got to keep here. Listen, I would keep it.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And again, i'd get rid of them for five million,
but I'd keep them for a thousand.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Line three. Hi Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Elliott, Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Hi? This is Leah.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yes, Leah.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
I recently got divorced and I insisted that our dogs
were in the divorce agreement.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Are you sharing custody of the dogs or did one
of you just get full custody?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
One of us has one dog, one of us has
primary custody of the other dog, and we have visitation.
We never had children, So there are children, right.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Isn't that sad to like split them up though.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Well we had just recently gotten the youngest one. Yeah,
but they see each other three four times a week.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Okay, wow, because.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
I actually made sure I moved close enough that we
wouldn't be too far apart.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Are you serious? Yeah, for the good of the dogs.
Solely for the good of the dogs, or do you
guys also own a business? Again?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Well, I mean I have a job. I mean I
have a job. That I mean, I just wanted to
be like within a fifteen mile radius for work and
also just for the ease and seeing them both being Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I debate in my head that when we had, like
when the boys were young and at home, if we
got divorced, if I would if like, because like when
I grew up, my dad didn't live in the same
city we lived in, so I you know, I mean,
all I know is you see your parent a couple
of times a year if you're divorced. And then like
everybody I know whose parents got divorced, they they stayed close.
(26:21):
And I was like, that's pretty nice. I don't know
if I would do that. I could promise you I
would not do it for a dog. I wouldn't say, like, well,
I have to live ten minutes because the dog three
four nights a week. I'm schlepping back and forth. How
do you like do anything on your own? You're just
back and forth. You may as well get remarried to
the guy. Ma'am, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I guess I'm sorry that guy. She went to go
and be a DJA. You wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Kids, no, no, but forget them.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Kids are gone.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You wouldn't stay close to your spouse, your expouse, so
for visitation over a dog.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I think it would be her decision to make because
I'm definitely getting Oh, there you go with the majority
of the custody.
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