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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Spit or swallow.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Spitting it into a tissue that counts.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
That counts.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
But are you a rayed so you don't swallow it? No, no,
you will spit it into a tissue. Please stop making
that face.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So you won't. You won't spit it in the grass
or on the street or.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I don't think I've ever spit into the ground ever.
I don't think so ever. I can tell you one
hundred percent, I've never done a farmer blow right.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Okay, well that I've done, But that's not this.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I mean that maybe if I had a bug fly
in my mouth, I spit that way.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No, I have not a stand.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
But you don't get like you don't cough up fhlam
and listen, the body produces phlam, whether you have allergies
or a cold or anything. The body produces phlam every
single day, and you have to get rid of it.
You have to get rid of it. And so but
you would say you spit out what you don't swallow
it because you think that's unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I mean, isn't you should expel it?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yes, I'm asking you. I'm asking I.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Feel like that's kind of the way you've been taught.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Get rid of it.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You don't want that back in the system, right, Okay,
Tyler's it's spit it out or swallow it.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I admittedly, if I'm mowing the yard, have spit before,
just because there's bugs and there's you know, when you're
emptying the bag with the grass, and maybe there's that
plume of dust that comes up. Sure, so I just
feel like or you're kicking it up because you're in
a particularly dry patch of your yard. So I have
(01:36):
spit before, but I'm not going to be walking down
the sidewalk and spit.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So normally you swallow, yes, right, But now I want
to go back to what Diane said. Aren't most people
taught that you're supposed to spit it out.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
There's a reason why I feel that. Maybe that's why
you're a doctor.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You don't know how to spit.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Right, But I mean, but you can still like put
it in a tissue, That's what I'm saying. Like, maybe
I heard that from a doctor when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Now, let me ask you this. When you spit it
into the tissue, what do you do with it?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh, you're spitting into Kleenex? Yeah, what's wrong with that?
That's better than hawk and a loogie on the ground.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Took you that long?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Don't And then you toss the cleenex.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Maybe I'm picturing you holding the tissue away.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh, and then like I'm going for distance.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
No, so you just put it up to your mouth
and spit it into the cleenex? What do you do
with it?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Then?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And you throw away the kleenex?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Right? But what do you do between spit and receptacle?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I don't know what do you mean? I'm asking what
do you understand?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
When you spit it into the napkin, you just want it.
You don't look at it, no mistake.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Oh, because you're supposed to take note of the color.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Thank you, Thank you. I read a whole thing on there.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So apparently this is a major debate as to whether
or not you supposed to spit or swallow phlegm based
on is one better for you than the other?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And the truth is both are good for you.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Oh so one benefits son outway of the others.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
The only benefit of the only benefit of spitting it
is that you can see it.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, you've brought that up now.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
A couple of years and when you see it, what
are we looking for in there? Color? Yes, but what
are we really looking for in our phlem?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
What?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Blood?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
What's wrong? What's wrong? Diane? You've never seen a little
trace in there where you're like, whoa dog?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
How often often are you referring to yourself as dog?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You dog?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So? Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
If you are going to and what is phlem? Where
does it come from? Where does it come from?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Sinuses?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Does flem come from? Where does flem come from?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Your mucous membranes?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Where does flem come from? No, you're not thinking he lungs.
That's why it's called hallung butter.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
God, I hate that term.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Christy seems I like it, So don't worry, Christian.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You spit it out?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah? Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
She looked at me and I said, tissue like hell.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yes, So the so so phlegm comes from the lungs,
and the only the only thing with getting it out,
The only thing that you want your body to do
is get it out of your lungs. Where it goes
after that doesn't really matter. That's your problem now, well
it is, it.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Is your problem.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But they'll say that's the only goal is to get
it out of your lungs, and once it's out of
your lungs, they do say that there is there possibly
is some benefit to swallowing it, that you kind of
put the like for your immune system, but it's really
kind of negligible. It really is kind of negligible. You
don't get a lot of a lot out of that
(05:09):
the but you could build up a little bit of
your your tolerance because you are sucking that all back
down into the into the body, right into the body.
Now if you spit it out, the benefit is Sometimes
they'll say that that some people's flams is really really thick.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
The.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I'm gonna throw up, yeah, vomit, that it's really really thick,
and that some people, it discussed them to swallow it
so that that becomes a problem. But as long as
it doesn't go back in the lung, then you're okay.
What you want to avoid is getting it into the
mouth and then as you're getting ready to spit, inhaling
(05:53):
to get it out, and then you inhale it and
that butter.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Goes right back into the container.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Butter thumbs up again from christ. I don't think I'm
going to be able to shake though, the idea of
Diane spitting into a tissue.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I can't get over that.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
You don't aren't you? Aren't you afraid that you're gonna
like rip through the material?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Are we talking here?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
You might want to consider a hanky? How disgusting would
that be? If you're.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Lex now, I will waste all the paper in the
world before I carry a hanky. Nasty.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So but then why, but why do you get angry
if I, if I, if I cough up flem and spit.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Because you because you're very performative, how you saunter over
and do it into my trash can?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Okay, but I'm not loogieing in there. I'm just kind
of like just letting it go. I'm not I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
From here, No, be honest. Well you sit there and
let it hang from your lips and let it dribble down.
That's gross. Thank god.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
From Jenny. My daughter is seventeen, and she wrote jocks
up Flem every morning like an old man. She'll be
thrilled to hear she's doing the right thing right now.
But wait, did she say, oh so she spits? Oh yeah, yeah,
she spits.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
But like both of my boys spit, I feel like
Jackie gets angry with them.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I told you, And this goes back a long ways.
I almost wasn't allowed to be friends with someone when
I lived in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Because they used to spit, because they spit, right.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
You remember, do you remember his name? Now? He was
from Alabama, right, So it's almost like my mom thought
it was because of his roots that he was spit.
But he'd spit all the time. It wasn't just oh,
I have a lot of thick phlegm and I need
to somehow expel it. No, he was just spitting constantly,
(08:00):
not dipping.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
He didn't have a lip in.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
No, No, this is in third grade.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
One of my boys went through that phase where they'd
spit all the time, all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Is that just something they picked up in like hockey?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
The No, that's they picked up being a dude. The
kid's boys spit like crazy. Yes, Will did, the.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Sweetheart kid. And then we moved to New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Right, and Will didn't come with us. Will is still
a spinner to this day. What age did he start spitting?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
That would have been second and third grade.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
They do say that a lot of kids don't know
how to spitmore.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Because we're not teaching them properly.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The no, it says, spitting is also not feasible for
a lot of young children who haven't yet developed a
coordination to do so effectively.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Oh it's on my shirt.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The been there, Kristen nodding.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Sometimes you think it's going and then it's like, you
know what it is. It's like your mouth got the yips,
and like you you went for distance and right right
down onto the old shirt.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I didn't kneel before this conversation fe me at all,
but I feel right now now I'm noticing it in
my throat, like was that there a half hour ago?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But you know what it was. But here's the part
that I don't get.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I feel like, when kids are young, you tell them,
don't spit, it's rude.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Don't spit it's rude. Don't spit it's rude.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
But then you're also told don't swallow your loogies.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well, if like you can't have it both ways, isn't
my way to having it the both ways? You're expelling it,
but you're not being like overtly disgusting about it.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Okay, But if I'm just walking on the sidewalk where
I don't have I don't have Kleenex with me all
over the place.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
That's why Diane has all those bandanas.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Let me ask you this, if you're walking on on
the street, yes, and you cough up phlam, Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Where it's in. It's now you have a choice to make.
It's still in your your mouth. Yeah, yeah, I'm not
spitting that out on.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That you're swallowing.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yes, I said, I'm not spitting on a sidewalk.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Okay, thank you. I'm not either, because people walk there.
I spit it into the street.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, Christian's with me.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
This is way up Kristen's.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Alley, right into the street. And if you're good, you
split cars.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Are you trying to go down into it like a
storm drain?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I can't see what's over there.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
What is Kristen saying?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Hold on, turn yourself on, turn yourself on.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
It's like, finally I have a lot to offer on thisp.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
What face did you just make?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It's making me a little nauseous.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Oh are you getting flam?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
No? The no, just regular spit.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I'm just gonna say, I don't know if I've ever
seen you like spit, because I don't think I have
so like when like show trips and stuff like if
we're in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Hold on, I'll be right there. Let me just go
spit on Bourbon Street.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Everybody else has who cares? I'm sorry, yes, Chris.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Oh good, she's not throwing up.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
People will be relieved. I'm sorry, yes, Kristen.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
So in the in this area.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
When I'm out walking the dog, if I have one
on the side, when I get it, I'm on the sidewalk,
I'll tuck it until somebody, like if people are walking,
and then once they because it looks gross for a
girl to spit, right, So I wait, and I'll either
spit in the road or turn into the bushes on
the other side and right across.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Now, I keep it, I touch.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
It it right, I know exactly, I know. I just
bear with me for one second. Diane, where is tucking
her loogie?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I gotta imagine it's in her cheek?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
No, no, no, no, Where is Kristen tucking her loogie?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Where else is there?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Can I guess? Same place? You take that temperature rounder.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
You got, You got like a dish under your tongue.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
What a dish tongue around?
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Diane? Dish down there.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, it's a divot, that's what.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
It's meant for.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
You know how it zids.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
You could put him in the bottom same thing you got.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So underneath the tongue is better than like just in
her lip, which is what.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I thought she was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Anyway, that's going to like either like it can't go
through your teeth if it's thick, So then it's just.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Right. So I'm gonna take a sip of water and then.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
But it's not okay, but he can still put water
in the dish.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, but just do a little bit loogie size or right,
he's ready and put it under your tongue right here.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, don't cut you hare?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah right now, wait back up, wait for the people
to leave.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Oh, it's shirts and now spit on that?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Does Mike get mad if you spit in front? What
was that?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I almost choked?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
What you get rid of it?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Okay? I swallowed?
Speaker 5 (13:33):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
You could have spit it too, By the way, does
Mike get mad if you spit at home?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He's like seriously, like in the sink.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I always say better out than in.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
And then I get excited when it's like the big
clumps because you know, you're getting over with the allergies
and stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
And I'm like, yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
But are you spitting into a tissue at home? No, sink, sink?
You knew the answer to that one. I am, No,
I just guessed.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I will say that in the Seagull household, Jackie does
have a preference that we go that we spit it
in the toilet and not in the sink, because two
things happen in the sink. Number one, like we use
the sink number two sometimes and it's not me, it's
usually the younger ones don't turn.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The water on.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, so that's gonna that's gonna be there for
you later.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
When we're out hiking, I will either farmer blow or
spit all the time. Mike doesn't care because I'm behind
him so he can't see it.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
He hears it.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Unless there's people. And then, Diane, where do we put it?
Where do we put that loogie?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yes, yes, gross, but remember it's better for you. Well,
one is not better than the other, because there are
a lot of people that think that you're not supposed
to swallow your loogies, that it is that that it
does make you sick, and that's not true.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
That it's actually fine.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
The only purpose is to get it out of the
lung and into the environment or your stomach.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Either way is totally is totally fine.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Now, because I know Christen does the half marathons.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Oh, I bet she spits the entire entire I bet
the entire I bet you go to any distance race,
I would bet the entire course is filled with with loogis.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
And those farmer blows.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, yeah, no, of course.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
You gotta get it out.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Mark on Facebook. Right, it's one of the worst aspects
of organized runs and races, is dodging all the phlegm snots.
All right, maybe we should be done.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
So what have we learned? Oh, by the way, at
what age do you develop the ability to spit?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
They said?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
The young kids don't They said, they don't know how,
they don't know how.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh wait, are you trying to put that in your dish?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Oh? At what age? Like? At what age?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Is that like an older sibling teaching you?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I know for certain my older one taught the younger
one how to spit.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
By just observation, or they actually sat each other down.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I would like to think that there was a little
bit of like this, and then talked him through it.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Says three or four years old. Oh really, and some
of the early learners can spit by two.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, we call them Kristen's kids.