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August 6, 2024 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Stumbled on a term I was not familiar with, and
would we agree?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Wouldn't we agree? Let me back up for a second.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Okayes aren't taboo. They used to be, but they're not
really taboo anymore.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
They've become a lot more common.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Exactly, right, Thrupples not taboo anymore. I'm not saying they're
everyday common, but they're not. They're not taboo anymore. A
lot of that stigma is gone. No, no, the stigma's
not gone, but people people are exposed more to it, right, Okay,

(00:40):
but none of them, like, none of that bothers me,
I'm not saying for you, but there are certainly, oh yeah,
like grandma is going to be upset, not just grandmother's
but people who have a problem accepting that lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
They're always will be. You know, what's a growing trend
right now?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
M And I don't know if I'm going to say
it right, tlly Amory, Tallyamory with a T with a T, Tallyamory,
t l y Amory am Ry.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
And that is it's three people.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
In a relationship. So there's a husband and a wife
and a girlfriend. Now, not like a thrupple where it
is husband wife and girlfriend or just three single people,
but a husband wife and girlfriend where everybody's cool with
each other. And look, Diane, what is tallyamory inside the

(01:42):
controversial newest dating trend? And so it is husband wife
And I don't want to say mistress.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I don't like that term because to me, mistress.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Is a secret.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So this this wife knows about the other girl but
ain't cool with it.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So it is a more of a mistress.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
No, but isn't like when you hear mistress, don't you
think secret? Like I'm trying to keep this person a secret.
Maybe that's my own the way I define it. I mean,
some people do turn a blind eye to infidelity, so
it's not a secret. They just it's still a mistress.
But they they do just allow it to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's this.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh that's this Yeah. Wa, t O L like tolerate
that's what I said. Oh I think it's a t
A L like Tolly Whacker. No, No, that's the penis.
That's where my head went immediate. No, t O L
y A m O R y tolly Amory, gotcha? Yeah,
t O L Y And it is for a tolerate. Oh,

(02:52):
I don't know if that's what it stands for. So
they were they were talking to like several threesomes, three
groups of three about tollyambor am I saying it right,
tolly Amory, That's what I'm going with. And they were
talking to the spouse that hates it, and they were like,

(03:14):
why should I give up everything that I have and
everything that I've built?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
We were in love at.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
One point and we're still together, but why why do
I have to give up my life? Because he wants
to have somebody on the side.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Maybe for your well being.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, but they're saying, I'm better off staying in this.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I have a.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, emotionally and you with your husband.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
You just said they hate it every day they make
up hating their existence.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
They don't like the setup. It's not they don't like this.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
A lot of people are unhappy every day. So they deal.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I don't like to say they deal.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
When Cathy was holding her husband's mistress's hair back as
she vomited in the bathroom, she knew her marriage had
hit rock bottom.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Wait, wife is holding the mistress's hair. Yeah, how'd that happen?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
They're all together? I told you did She pissed together. No,
she was over at the house. Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
The wife is pissed, but yet she's holding her hair
because that's the last place I would be if I
was pissed.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
But once you accept it, you accept it. But once
you accept it, you're in it. Were they all hanging
out together or did like the husband pass out? And
then the wow, it was like to help this. Annie
knew her husband was cheating on her, and her mistress
didn't seem to mind that the wife knew, but she
admits to feeling seething anger and resignation after she left

(04:54):
the woman to her own devices. So she's like, in
the middle of it, she's fine, but internally it's a
it's bothering her.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
God damn, this does not seem good.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
But both sides got to be cool with each other.
Why won't the husband and the marriage the marriage, he's
got the best of both worlds.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
He's got a wife, he's probably taking care of everything
at home, and he's got a mistress.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's unfair. You don't know that.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I just meant I wouldn't want by the way.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
He makes someone so miserable, by the way, Why why
does it have to be and you're just using this case.
Why can't it be a woman who's got a husband
and a little uh, a little side peen.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I'm sure it.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Could be three men, it could be three women. Yeah,
it doesn't matter. No. But Diane's like, oh, he gets
the best world because you when you're getting that milk,
you gave.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Me Kathy's scenario. And I don't know why she's holding
that woman's hair.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Because Kathy, Kathy is the wife. So this is not
somebody that's no, no, no, that's just the person they
talk to. But why is the in like, why do
you why do you feel like if you've accepted that
you're going to be in a tallyamorous relationship, why do
you got to be a bitch?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
You've you've accepted it.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
You say you've accepted it, but I haven't because you're
seething every day. Yes, but given your circumstances, this is
what you've been dealt and you have to feel like this,
I'm doing the best what I what I can't for
me and for my family, right.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yes, and so part of doing the best for that is.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
I think she gave something in her drink the stop it. Oh,
I don't know why you're nausea?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Who is who is the champion or choosing to champion
this ter lot? It is going on all over the
place because it sounds like a nice way of describing
an awful situation. But what if because it's a planned
polyamory which has, like you said, it's become very acceptable,

(06:58):
become more more acceptable. Yeah, sure, yes, but this is rough.
What if, though, take the physicality out of it, right, Diane,
You love Scott, Scott loves you. You guys have a
great life together. You enjoy living together, you have fun together.

(07:18):
But Scott also wants a girlfriend. No, no, please, So.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
That would be my first reaction.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
No, no, I know, and I know, And part of
the problem is I'm putting you in a scenario that
you're not being open minded about.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Also, Scott didn't get a chance to explain. Sheer me out,
no no, no.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
But all I'm saying is the only thing that changes.
You and Scott still have a great relationship. It's just
Scott is also being physical with somebody else, and that
person comes over and hangs out. You may actually think
that she's a nice enough person if we weren't sharing
Scott's path. Think I'm not done, So why not? Why throw?
Why throw the entire pie away?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
If you only don't like the frosting, I wouldn't know.
I wouldn't put up with it.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Okay, so you're not gonna be open minded?

Speaker 5 (08:06):
No, okay, Now I'm going to stay here in my
little closed minded area, right.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, Well, then Scott's finding.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
All right, I see, But Diane could never listen.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
I'll be if other people are fine with that, that's fine, right.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
This is not for me, No, no, no. But what I'm
saying is I could never do it, right.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, Because I mean this woman seething.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I could never shouldn't show it outwardly?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Did you how many times I go through like things
that I'm seething, but I at cool.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
I could never do seething, anger and resignation.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yes, here's what I'm saying. I couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I couldn't have Jackie having a boyfriend show up at
the house, right. However, I'm open minded enough to go.
I could see where this would be, where you would go.
I love Jackie. I wish that this part of her
personality didn't exist. But am I gonna throw the whole
baby out with the bathwater? But based on the description

(09:06):
the three of us like watching hockey that Diane just
gave you, and.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
She's making out with him while I'm watching hockey.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
What if he knows more about hockey than your impossible?
It would be the impossible, wouldn't it's Alan May. Wouldn't
a mental health professional or therapist tell Kathy Kathy is
the one? Yes, that's tell Kathy you need you need
to leave, or or get.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Happy or lay down the idea to your husband. In
this case, that's it is this.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Person tally amory.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I'm so uncomfortable with that term.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
You know what? This sounds like. This goes back the.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Same as stigma, as the wobbly.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
H I hate to call upon it because it was
a long time ago, but this is like kind of
what the finish call about weeks ago, when you were
trying to figure out what was going on? Is that
a taliamorous relationship?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
I don't remember what her deal was.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
She was trying to find out if someone she was
seeing was cheating on their and their wife or if
they were in a polyamorous relations I'll tell you I
vaguely remember that, but I'll tell you this. I'll tell
you this to me, that's not that's not.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Holly.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I hate that.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's awful. Why why do you hate it?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
What do you want me to call it?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Because it sounds like it's a nice bow on a
really dangerous dynamic.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't think it's that dangerous. The feeling a seating, seething,
angry and you know what she is this close but here,
But here's the deal. They all everybody's in on it.
Everybody's in on it.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
But is this what was the going on?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Maybe she tried to.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
With Finch though didn't You could never really figure out,
didn't we say with Finch we didn't know if the
wife knew or didn't know? Uh, didn't Finch tell us
the wife knew? And and there was like, I don't know,
I don't know, I don't remember. I don't remember because
she was trying to figure out if she if she's
just a side piece, right, which would mean the wife

(11:15):
doesn't I guess in that situation the way in this case,
everybody knows, but it could be.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Hiding.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, but Kathy in this case doesn't like it, So
maybe she tried and then she can't accept it.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
If she tried, doesn't it isn't it more Polly, No,
it's Tolly.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Maybe she was Polly.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Now she's tolling no, because Benji would be tolerating it. Well,
she is tolerating it.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Why she's tolerating it. But she's bit pissed and she's bitter.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's but then then she's then she's not playing by
the rules.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Well scenario this goes back even for oh no, no,
But it wasn't It was like an advice column and
you asked Kristen and Diane. Wasn't there a cruise ship involved?
And somebody was coming to them saying, I want to
bring my polyamorous threesome all on this cruise together that

(12:21):
you're paying for, so I don't forget the cost. But
no one was really comfortable with the setup. Could you
imagine trying to sell someone on a tally amorous relationship.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Well, yeah, I mean I'm not happy at all, but
I need you to be happy with this?

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Right?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
No, get happy? Can you get handsy? It's real easy
again again? Do you like the cake?

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I do, I don't love the frosting, so you're not
gonna eat the cake. But if you get happy, isn't
that then Polly?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
But you don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
No, you tolerate the eye, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'm not baking cakes and putting that icing on it.
I just tolerate the icing on this one is my problem.
I can think of a couple of bunk cakes like that. Honestly,
I can give you a real life, a real life scenario.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
If it's from nothing bunt cakes, they're all great.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I could be.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I could tolerate what I think is a bad choice
someone's made, but I still.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Love it, right, that's Hollie. No, it's yes. But it's
my problem.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
When I hear the word tolerate, I can't imagine being content.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yes, that's that's unfair. It's to me tolerating. It's all
nic but it's not.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
It's not he's tapping his forehead.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh it's his mind's eye. Green pepper on pizza, I
love it, love it, damn it.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
What's something that that? What's something that you like but
you don't order all the time on pizza? Just veggie pizza?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh yeah, like this one that's covered in vest. Yeah,
I tolerate it.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't love it some pizza. I don't love it exactly.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I'm still married.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I still have my husband. Everything I don't hate it, right, No,
and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
How does Kathy feel again?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Stop quoting? Is my lone example.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I've never gotten a veggie pizza and been sea thing now.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
No, but you do.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I'm tolerated.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Time.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
How about a veg We can't get a meat lover.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
You can't throw some pepperoni on there. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
You can't put one piece of goddamn protein on this.
It's veggie and that's all we have.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I'll tolerate it, all right, you know what.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
And I'll probably have a couple of slices, not my favorite,
but I'll eat it.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
That's Kathy.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
That's Kathy.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Who Finally, Hi Elliott in the morning, Illy, Illy veggie pizza.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Hi Elliott the morning morning.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Hi. How are you?

Speaker 7 (14:59):
I'm great?

Speaker 8 (15:00):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I am well?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Thank you? Are you Tolly? Polly? What are you so?

Speaker 7 (15:05):
I am Polly with a with a pe isn't Papa.
I've been in a polyamorous relationship for the last seven years.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
It just real quick, real quick, because I'm stupid. Remind me,
Polly is there's you and two other people and everybody's
cool with it.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Ma'am oh, no, ma'am. Oh no, oh no, where'd she go?
Did she get sickly? Where am I going?

Speaker 8 (15:39):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Elliott in the morning?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Wait, like line four, I think she's back. I think
she's back. Hey, hold on one second, hold on, one second,
hold on?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Is that her? Yeah? Line four? Hey you there?

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (15:54):
Sorry about that? Okay, So yeah, so polyamorous. My boyfriend
has been married to the last twenty years and we've
been being the last seven.

Speaker 9 (16:04):
And yeah, everyone is cool with it. They have you know,
what's more commonly known as.

Speaker 8 (16:08):
An open relationship.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
That's really you know, part of polyamory, right, and.

Speaker 9 (16:12):
You know everyone's play with it.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
You know, she's had boyfriends, she's had girlfriends in the past,
and they're all fine with it. The thing that I
wanted to talk about is that it's a really important distinction,
and so that polyamory falls under what we call an
umbrella of it's called ethical non monogamy. And the really

(16:34):
important pa in that is the ethical part. Sure, right,
but the ethical part is really the key phrase there.

Speaker 8 (16:40):
And so when we talk about what it.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
Being ethical, first and foremost obviously is that everyone is knowledgeable,
they're on the same page. They know the score, right,
So for your well, no, for everyone in the relationship,
like you feel like everyone has to know. Okay, okay,
so otherwise treating well. But it's not cheating when you

(17:02):
look at no, no, no, if you weren't on the
same page, like if you and Jackie, if you're like, oh, yeah,
you know, we're you know, we're monogamous or whatever, and
she's got someone on the side and you don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
About it, that's that's cheating.

Speaker 8 (17:13):
Yeah, So that's not right, that's not ethic.

Speaker 7 (17:16):
That's both means you have to have knowledge and everyone
has to know. So on that part of it, yes, Holly,
emory is ethical, but it's not ethical because the other
part of having ethical relationships that way is that you
have to not only think about yourself but also your partner.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
It is, oh my god, you have the worst telephone.
How do you communicate with two lovers? You can't even
talk to a disc jockey?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Hello, you lost her again?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Damn it?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
All right, I understand what she's saying.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
So is it she's saying that the anger and resignation
is not ethical? It's half ethical? No, because you're still
accepting it. Half point, you're still except she said it's
it's ethical in the sense that it is there is
knowledge of it.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
It is not done behind closed.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Doors exactly, but it is Kathy helped her with her hair,
unethical because of the way it is making that person feel.
That's what No, that's what she was about saying, right,
you will never know.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
No, No, she was half right. She was half right.
A lot of half points today the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Again, I'm not trying to convince you to do it.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I'm just telling you this is very popular right now,
and a lot of it does stem from why why
should I give up ninety percent of what I really like?
But I hearing that you can take it to an
extreme where you see that being the justification for staying

(18:50):
in a situation with violence.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I was gonna go to you ever go to a
movie and it just seemed to get.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Pizza, It seems a little too long, and you're like,
they easily could have edited out a half hour, but
you still stayed and enjoyed the movie.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Yeah, so it's marriage, But like that, all right, might
could just edit out a half hour of this marriage
could be good?

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah at thirty minutes where I'm miserable and seething with anger.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Or it's just not as good as the rest of it.
Where's the pepperoni? It's still good. Where's the pepperoni? Well,
the pepperoni's in the partner they're taking.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
You're taking. Yeah, bad with the good, even though the
bad leaves your seething.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
All bad leaves me seething.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
No, there's some This seems like it's all consuming though. No,
like like, there's plenty of bad that leaves I don't
like to what's bad that I don't like? Hunger, getting gas,
I get angry. Oh, I get very angry at the terrorists.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Didn't you have more questions about her setup?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Is she even on the phone?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Married for twenty years dating the No, but yeah, he's
the original couple.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
But she said that there had been more people other
than that over the years.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, well she's gone.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Though she's gone.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
She doesn't know how to use a phone.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Hell, Yeah, Hi, who's this.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Sir?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, I got you, I got youa Hey.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
So my girlfriend's parents in this exact situation right now.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
It is.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
It's weird, is it?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Are they cool with each other?

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Though they're cool in public, I can't imagine they're super
cool behind closed doors.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
So would would your would your girlfriends. So your girlfriend's
parents are married, which one has, which one? Which one has?
The extra person is there? Is there like a girlfriend
or a boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's the husband with a longtime girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
And his wife.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, And what does your girlfriend say about it?

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Uh, we don't bring it up anymore. And she's really
upset by it.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
It's really affecting her mom in what way?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
What do you think they're tlly, she's tallyamorous.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, well, I mean they sleep in different beds. It's
you know, I don't know, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Wait, who sleeps in different beds? Mom and dad or
dad and girlfriend?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah, mom and dad.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Plenty of couples because yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
No, no, it's almost like he's exclusive now to the
girlfriends sexually, and he's there for the wife, you know,
financially at this point.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Okay, that's based on Diane's look, that's a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
No, no, no, But what if? What if what if
the wife was like, you know what, I'm fine with that.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I don't need that to feel completed.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Maybe that's your girlfriend's mom.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Yeah, maybe, I don't know. Obviously, I've never had the
conversation with her, but maybe I'll give it a try.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Does she ever does?

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Does?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Does your girlfriend and her mom talk about it.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Lightly? She has an older sister and they've talked more
about it because the older sister blew up the whole
situation when she went through her dad's son a couple
of years ago on holiday.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
It was full blown cheating where the wife didn't even know.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
No, so they catched it a secret from the kids.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Oh, I have no.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Problem with that. I have no problem until one of
them finds out.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Okay, well, don't go through my phone. How about that?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Now, don't get me reading my kid.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
You could be fifty. Don't go through my goddamn phone.
The no, no, no, And I have I have no
problems with them hiding it from their kids. Maybe they thought,
and it seems correctly that that sister wouldn't be able
to handle it.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, totally. And it wasn't like she went through the
phone behind his back. His phone was unlocked and the
text messages from the other girl were coming through and
she was able to read them, and then you know
what they say from there?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
And why did the sister feel like she had to
blow it up on holiday?

Speaker 4 (23:39):
I'd have to ask her.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Doesn't everybody feel better that everybody knows the playing game now?
Like you may not, like I would tell, I would
tell the sister she needs to grow up, Like, wouldn't they?
Doesn't everybody feel better knowing what the like who's playing
who and not playing who? Like it's a game? But
like everybody knows what's going on. We're living our lives
in public now, how miserable?

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Way, Yeah, that's what it seems like.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Now.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
It's just, uh, it's awkward. This is a drinking family,
and so you know, sometimes when you know people drink
too much, things get said and you can get weird
real fast, which.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Is why I'm keeping my bars open twenty four hours
a day.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah for you, thank you?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
All right, very good, very good.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Nightmare. It is a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
So where where am I going to get somebody who's
into it?

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Here we go, Line three, Hey Finch the No, I
don't think Finch is into it. No, this just sounds
like we couldn't figure out what's going on now. I
feel like this is what was happening.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
No, because I disagree in Finch, I don't know is
Finch in town?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Finch call me Hi, Yelli in the morning.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
Hey, good morning, Hi.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Who's this.

Speaker 9 (24:58):
I'm not going to say my name, but I am
in one of these relationships. It's not quite the way
that you're explaining it the way mine is set up,
but it's pretty similar.

Speaker 8 (25:07):
Tell me that dating.

Speaker 9 (25:10):
I'm dating a guy who's married, but our relationship is
more from a BDSM perspective.

Speaker 8 (25:16):
His wife isn't into it.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Wait, so you're okay.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I wrote your name down as caller. You're dating. You're
dating a guy who is married. He's a husband, and
he's married to a woman who is not into BDSM.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
But you and you and the husband are.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
Yes.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
And so she and him have an agreement that he
can have a submissive outside his marriage.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Beautiful is she is?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
She does? She dislike that.

Speaker 8 (25:49):
She's not her cup of tea, but she's cool with it.
They have, you know, an agreement. If she's ever not
cool with it, then she'll say.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Something, here we go, here we go, and then if
she does that, then you and he are done. Yep,
and you've agreed to that too.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Well, she doesn't have a choice.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
No, if he breaks it off. Here you and I
are dating for her man. But I mean, so your
man talk to the hands.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
But that's a conversation that's been had where it's she's
going to be like, okay, I'm good. Also a minute
you say it's done, it's done.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
She's also the sub in this. She'll do what I
tell her to do.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (26:27):
I mean he's he's told me like he wants to
keep me for like ever, and he's like, if my
wife ever says something, he's like, I'll have a conversation
with her, but ultimately, like I have to respect my marriage,
and if she really isn't cool with it for the
long term, then that's like a conversation will happen.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I was like, okay, yeah, whatever, Hey, now do you
that's a little bit of a red flag.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, it doesn't sound like he's stopped the relationship with
who with the submissive?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
No, he that's what he's saying, I'm gonna have to
have a conversation with you that this is over.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
No, she said with like if the wife said I
need to stop this, he would maybe try to convince her,
but this is what I'd like forever.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, okay, yeah, and then she says no.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
For example, Jackie ordered a veggie pizza, right, I don't
want it, and I'm gonna try to talk to her
and go next time.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Let's not do this. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
If the are you friendly with the wife?

Speaker 8 (27:27):
I've never met her.

Speaker 9 (27:29):
That's kind of their agreement, is that she doesn't want
to know like what we.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Do, right, and you think she would be shocked? Would
she be shocked at what you guys do?

Speaker 8 (27:44):
Probably?

Speaker 10 (27:45):
I mean he has this whole thing where he's like, yeah,
maybe one day you can come to like a family barbecue,
and I'm.

Speaker 8 (27:50):
Like, hard haaf on that.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Why wouldn't you go?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well?

Speaker 8 (27:55):
Uh, because I no one in my life knows that
I'm in this relationship as far as everyone it's concerned,
I'm just single.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
And you hid that on purpose?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Do you hide it?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Do you hide it because your relationship is with a
married guy, or do you hide it because of the
of it being a submissive relationship like a BDSM relationship?

Speaker 8 (28:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (28:21):
Bad aspects because it's newer to me and I haven't
quite come to turns.

Speaker 8 (28:27):
I guess to how to explain it to people in
my life. I have one friend who knows, and that's
about it.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I get that.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
But we've been I've known him for almost three years.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Now, would you be would you be honest question.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
You're having a conversation with your mom, and in your head,
you're like, I have to tell her one of two things.
I Either I have to tell her that I'm in
a relationship with a married guy and his wife and
coool with it, or I'm in a BDSM relationship.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
I would tell her that I was in a relation
with a married guy.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Right, Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I don't know why I do, but.

Speaker 11 (29:04):
I get that well because the BDSM, I mean, that's
your most vulnerable self, and it's easier for people to accept.
I feel like, oh, she's dating a guy in a
married relationship, versus she's getting tied up and railed every.

Speaker 9 (29:19):
Night, you know.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
See.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
And that's what I was going to say, is I
can imagine dating. I can't imagine, like the mind wanders, right,
so I can't imagine my kid coming to me, and
I'm like, oh my god, he must have like ropes
and leather and ballgags and God only knows what's going on.
And the truth is it may not be any of that,
but that's where the mind goes.

Speaker 9 (29:39):
Because everyone's relationship is different as far as what their limits.

Speaker 8 (29:44):
Are and what they find enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
What's your limit? But I guess it.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
Depends on the situation.

Speaker 9 (29:54):
Like we have a lot of conversations about what we
would want to try together.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Spanking, he's done with spanking a lot.

Speaker 8 (30:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Choking.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I mean everybody chokes at this point. It's so commonplace.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
Mm hmm, yeah, we do that.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Whips haven't done that?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Really? I surprise you. Yeah, come on, you'll do spanking,
but you won't do whipping. What's the deal?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I mean, what what do you consider a whip a whip?
I don't know what do you consider a whip?

Speaker 9 (30:36):
I mean he's used a belt for like a light spanking.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's fun, yeah, but he's not.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Like whip cream.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
All right, very good, very good, Thank you man, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
That's hot. Oh wait, can I go to line five?
Can I go to line five? No?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's not finch.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
No, she tweeted.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Oh what did she say?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
You could not pay me a million dollars to call
in right now?

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Why?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I don't know?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
She that's she tweeted, Well, I'll put this million dollars
back in my pocket.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
No, no, no, but Okay, No, I mean that's fine,
that's fine. Where am I going? Line five? Are her
tweets protected? I didn't think so.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Oh, I just I didn't see that. Oh oh, good
news on me. I don't see any of them. Hi
Elliet in the morning, good morning.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Who's this?

Speaker 8 (31:33):
I don't want to say? Okay, but uh, I'm a
wife in that kind of like a situation.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Where where are you calling me?

Speaker 8 (31:44):
From New York?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Summer New York?

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Okay? Wait, so you're the wife who's tolerating your husband
who's in a relationship with somebody else. You don't hate
them enough that you're gonna leave, but you don't love
the idea.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
Well no, See, here's the situation. I've been with this
man for over thirty years. We have three children yep,
and none of my children now obviously, But however, we
were completely monogamous, monogamous for many, many years, and it
just so happened one night it was his birthday party,

(32:23):
and for some reason he was a little too hum
I'm jack, and we ended up doing something vertying in
front of his in front of a few of his friends.
He kind of just like took control over me and
bent me over in front of a few of his friends,

(32:45):
like for sex been there.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
I don't know what came over.

Speaker 8 (32:52):
Him, because he's one of the most quietest guys you'll
ever meet. But I mean, don't be wrong, it was excited.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
But all right, very good.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Right again, we're gonna hear all about every single one
of those worms. What could you have done as a
guest at that party?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Oh my god, I would have lost my mind. First
of all, I would have pushed people out of the way.
Get out of the way.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
I'm sure I can't see.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
Well, the guys with flabbergascid because they couldn't believe how
how long he went, so you know, they.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Were yes, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Right, so anyway, so anyway, so you guys do this
in front of like the party, Everybody's like, yeah, get it, yeah,
get it.

Speaker 8 (33:48):
Well I was the one and only time we did
in front of the party. But but like it opened
up a can of worms. Like if I went and
went and did something, he knows about it. He knows
where I'm going. If he goes and does something, I
know where he's going and who he's doing it with.
There's no hide in like you know, and I tell
him all the time, you know, I see him like,
go get a girlfriend. I don't care, you know, or

(34:09):
he'll tell me go get a boyfriend. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
But no, wait a minute, so you guys wait, So
so you guys are just in an open marriage.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Pretty much. Yeah, but if he decided he wanted to
go get a girlfriend, I really wouldn't have cared because
it's not really about for us, it's.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Not really about it's just sex.

Speaker 8 (34:32):
Yeah, because at the end of the day, he's not
going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's right, because he knows where that What is that
saying he knows where that cow is? That's not the same, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
That is not the same.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
No, but you know what I mean, You know what
I mean?

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Does it bother you?

Speaker 8 (34:54):
Does it bother you?

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Though?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
If if he goes out and gets with another woman,
does it bother are you?

Speaker 4 (35:02):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:02):
But she can do the same and does the same.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Maybe that's it. Do you ever go out and get
another boyfriend?

Speaker 8 (35:09):
I've I've kind of had one on the side.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Like just one.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Why do you say it so quietly? Why do you
say it like I kind of had one on the side?

Speaker 8 (35:20):
Well, because there was it ended up being a situation
where I did something stupid and you know, no, no, no, no,
it's sounds completely different.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Never the uh yeah, yeah, let's leave it.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
So I don't know that you're the wife in this
situation because everybody's open, everybody's cool, and you're never gonna leave.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
No, he's just too good. I mean, I don't know
what else to say.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, no, listen, I like it. By the way, you
sound so hot to me.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
But I will think about that party all day.

Speaker 8 (36:06):
A little two girls did join in a little bit,
but you know I'm not on him though.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Oh my god, stop it.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
All right, let me get you a shirt. T shirts
for treatment. All right, very good?

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Hold tight one second, Hold on one second, so I
don't hold on, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Hold on. Wow, that was loud.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I don't know that we found somebody that's full tally.
We were close, yes, but I don't think we found
our Kathy.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
And I gotta go to a party like that. Oh
my god.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Could you imagine we're at Diane and Scott's and it
just starts to get a little carried away.

Speaker 11 (36:53):
Heyamlians, shake it, don't break it.
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