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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Question number one, raise your hand. Do you have easy pass? Okay?
I see Tyler's hand, Diane, Kristen very good, and both
all three still hand on the other wheel. Very nice,
So yes to easy pass number two. Number two? Question
number two, do you have them use park Mobile? Okay,
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Diane's up, Kristen and Tyler, oh, very good, look at that.
All three yeses. Now, next question do you like Do
you like the convenience of one more than the convenience
of other the other?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I use park Mobile a lot more than easy Pass.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So that's not what I'm asking you. Is park Mobile
convenient for you? Yes, So it's convenient when you have
to open up the app and then you have to
kind of type in the zone and you have to
do and confirm like that's that. That's easier than easy pass,
I mean easy pass. Here's what you do for easy pass. Nothing,
(00:58):
I'm just driving.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You get in the express lines, that's all you do.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah. Or you just drive, Yeah, that's all and your
account reloads auto medically.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah. Yeah. That so effort for easy pass, zero effort
for park mobile. Okay, there's some effort.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
There are in some states. I think New York is
just enacted legislation that if you don't have it mounted properly,
you're paying now a higher task.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, that sucks because I don't I mind just sitting
on the desh when I knead it out and I
put it away.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, I don't need it. I used to do that
all the time. Also, I keep it in the glove
compartment and then hold it up to the window. Yeah,
New York is shoving it to you. If you go
that route, you have to see you mount to your windshield. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Absolutely, So there's some effort in that the park mobile
is easier than seeing a spot number spray painted on
the ground walking to a parking KIOSK.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Could not agree more Yeah, could not agree more.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Is park mobile more convenient than some? Absolutely? Is it
as convenient as easy Pass?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
What if? What if I told you you could instead
of using park mobile, that there would be that there
is something coming that would allow you to It's not
easy pass, but it may as well be the same
thing where you would park using the same technology as
easy Pass, that it would all be part of your plate.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I check it out.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, oh wait, what's wrong?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, so I just dealt with parking kiosks a lot
last week. Yes, Jersey is full of them, especially Seaside Heights.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And there were a couple.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Times where I did not pay. I know, I'm coming
clean that. By the way, record scratch halt.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You didn't pay.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You just took a chance because I was just going.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
In no no, no, no, no no, uh.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
To get a cheese steak for myself and a mango kalada.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Can somebody call it?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm sorry, a mango kalada in a pineapple for my daughter.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Can somebody please? My hand is up, My hand is up.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Do you see what my concern would be?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
No, I do see what your concern is. But you
used to get mad at me because when I would
go to Hanks when they were in Old Town, they
had kiosk parking behind. I would just park in there
and run in, and you're like, you gotta pay.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I just knew it wasn't going to be the minimum
amount of time, okay, which was the hour.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
They in the car, and you just so there was
somebody in.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The gun matter.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Oh they also didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. By the way, that's that's breaking
the law. I know, that's breaking the law.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I know, but I could have easily because we were
there so often. When the credit card company said, the
township of Seaside Heights charged you nine dollars twice on
the same day because it was two three hour sessions. Uh,
is this a mistake? I could have said, yes, I know,
I had two three hour sessions right for a different day.
(04:04):
So if you're talking about a system like easy Paths,
you would have been charged for you to have no
choice but to pay correct.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, by the way, so take it to something that's
a real pain in the ass every and again. Listen,
I get it. People are just doing their gigs. Every
everybody go drive by light anywhere in Boston, anywhere in
clarendon the right lane you can't drive because everybody is
just double parks because it's everybody running into either grab
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the food to take it to someone to be delivered
or vice versa. They would have to pay for that.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And is there a new system automatically charging an hour?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Or is it how long you're actually there?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
How long you're there? Okay, then it charges you based
on how long you're there.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'd be on more on board with it, but I
was not going to pay three dollars to run in
and get a cheese stick.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
The right, so instead you broke the law. I call
it whatever you want, but you broke the law. So
they're proposing this.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
There's a council member, Charles Allen from DC I don't know.
Charles Allen has introduced legislation that would allow for a
license plate system here. He was inspired by the chaotic
pickup and drop off traffic at the wharf Anyway, which
by the way, is a cluster f it. In half
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the time, you can't even get to the curb because
there's four or five cars that park in there, or
flashers are going. Flashers are going. You're like, oh my god.
And because I like the street, park right by the
salt line there all the time. But if I can
find a spot on Wilson, it's such a home run.
But if somebody's going to like hawkers or something to
pick up food, the flashers are on. You can't get
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any even use park mobile. This would charge them for that,
which means they would either a have to pay and
then that's okay, or they just couldn't sit there because
they know that they have to pay, So they would
have to figure something else out and then you have
to pay, which is fine you should.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Do you think, though, that this automatic charging is going
to stop people from throw it on their flashers and
doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I mean they're gonna have to pay. Yeah, so it
doesn't matter. I mean, is it gonna change double parking? No?
But they though, But they also know that if they
pull into a spot where you're supposed to pay, park
mobile or a kiosk like Tyler, running a foul of
the law. They all say the same thing. They all
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say the same thing, What are the odds of cops
going to show up in the next three minutes that
it's going to take me to run inside, get my
stuff and come back out.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I had to walk past the chiefs take place to
get to the kiosk.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
How long were you there?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I didn't have to I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
No, but they were saying, fifty of curb stops are
seven minutes or less. But it takes up space. So
apparently this is already underway in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, where
systems very similar to this are are are already in use.
Says Pittsburgh is among cities using automotis aut o m
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t us they paint purple stripes on curbs. Surprised when
Pittsburgh they're doing that, designating a pay by plate loading zone.
The charges start at less than a penny per minute,
but increase over time to encourage high turnover. Double parking
went down by ninety five percent because again instead of
double parking, know one, you can get screwed. They just
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pull in and they go, you know what, if it's
going to be two minutes to run in or three
minutes to run in, it'll cost me virtually nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Leyay, you said less than a penny.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, but it starts to ramp up, so they know
that if you're going to be there for a minute
or two minutes, it doesn't cost you that much as
opposed to if there's a meter maid and I know
they don't like that term, but if there's a if
there's somebody outside who's ticketing, you're gonna get it, but
increases over time to encourage high turnover. Nearly all delivery
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drivers who benefited were gig workers using their personal cars.
Most stayed for fifteen minutes or less. Philly is adopting
the same system. I don't know why I feel like
I should be against it, but I feel like I'm
into it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But how did it work out in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh, it's working out. It's working out great. Double parking
went down by ninety five percent. Wow, eighty seven percent
of driver cited for failure to register never did so again.
So if you got busted for parking there and you
weren't registered, like Tyler, if you got busted for parking
there without being registered, you got a ticket, didn't it?
(08:46):
But it was only one yes, So it was it
was hugely successful. And again I feel like I would
be against it, except I'll drive around the block in
Boston a million times by the mall because you can't
find a spot and there's thirty seven cars with flashers on.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And he said, it's called automotives.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
A U t O M O t U s am
I missing a downside.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Everything you've said has been pretty positive.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But like, for example, I use I use I use
park mobile. So like if like down by the wharf anywhere,
whether it's down by the wharf in the district, it
doesn't matter anywhere you go.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh it says that the except.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Freaking rest in Jesus Christ, can you get on the
same system.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
The curb management also allows for zero emissions delivery zone.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, whatever, like that is that big deal?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, he's big into that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Nobody's got zero emissions. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
They're very proud of the Pittsburgh set up.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
It's been very successful. Well what is what am I missing? Like?
What is the downside?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I mean, it doesn't take the way jobs from human enforcement,
but so.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Does park mobile. And by the way, there are people
that are going to continue to break the rules.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Park mobile doesn't take away job from human enforcement. No.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
No, but I'm saying if you if you park legally,
you've taken away a job from human enforcement.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
No, because they go around and they check check for
like people violating for park mobile.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Oh oh okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah, so
i'm the play reader. You would take that away? Yeah, yeah,
you're usually.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Let's not say the job.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, no, no, but you know what, that's fair. That's
that's a fair answer.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I'm just trying to give you one negative.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No, it does. It takes away the job of a
meter bad. And again I know, I know, I know,
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
They're using this at airports too.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Now that wait, whoa where where where? Like at the
drop off?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
No, no, damn, I'm paying to drop somebody off at
the airport real that.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
No, No, there are signs up, but that's that you
can't sit there.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I don't sit.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You have to I have to stop.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
To get in the call. No, get I'll be there,
But I'm not. I circle and circle and circle like
at times at National I'm like, oh, could you make
the circle bigger? Like treat it like Dallas? How many times?
But you're going around and around and around. But I'm not.
If I stop to let you in the car, it's
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gonna cost me five cents. Eat balls.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We are transforming the airport guest experience.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Get out with your flowery language to go over to
you know what, not just just experience. I'm just trying
to get dropped off.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Walk over, Just go to like the bus media and
I'll pick you up there.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Eliminating excessive dwell times.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Okay, now I do follow those rules.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
It sounds like you don't.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, no, you're going to charge me to drop somebody
off at the airport.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh, they're gonna charge you if you sit there. I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I don't sit I drive, so.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
You never when the person calls and says, all right,
I'm making my way towards the exit, you don't then
park it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I don't like. I don't like using the word never,
but I try to go all the way up to
the front or all the way to the back. It depends, honestly,
it depends on where you see the flash of lights
because and you don't like getting you go they point
right address, like, oh, back it down, man, I know,
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I know by the way Tyler parked illegally at the kiosk.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
They can offer premium access to the curb and I
bet that's cheap. And there is. It looks like a
dynamic pricing. So the more congested it is, the more
you're going to pay a penalty if you decide to
park it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Oh thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Hey, you're fine if you follow the rules, which I do.
And I sound like a hypocrite saying that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Now breaking the law, breaking the law.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Line too, Hi, we also got cheese balls. Hi, elliot
in the morning, dog, good morning, how are you? I am? Well,
thank you? What can I do for you? So I
was just gonna say, I wonder if the businesses are
not happy with it, because they're missing out on people
like Tyler pulling up. Oh so so the Mango the
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Mango drink place is upset that now Tyler may not
go to the Mango drink place because he doesn't want
to pay the kiosk. Yep, they might lose. Well, that's
a that's a good point. But I mean no, no,
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because was there the kiosk? Did you have to pay
all three hours?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
No, you have to pay at least an hour.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Okay, but wouldn't you think it was better if if
you only had to pay twenty five cents? Would you
have been better and you didn't have to do anything
but pull into the spot? Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, absolutely?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So the I told you I was on board if
it just charged me for.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
The time, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I didn't want to pay what I thought was for
an hour amount when I needed it only for thirteen
minutes the fifteen well places on the boardwalk, that's a
quarter of an hour. I also moved the car once
to another spot where I parked illegally.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Unless I don't want him to tag my tires with
their white chaw.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I did think that that would help me because it
looked more like, oh this is cheese take place. I'm
going to unlimited Steaks on the other corner.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Wait, so you went to one shop, got the food,
came back to the car, moved to the spot, and
they went right back the same direction.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But onto the boardwalk. Then yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
My god, oh my god, because that he could break
the law. Rud I robbed a bank, but one bill
at a time. I went in, I got one twenty,
I went back out to the car, moved the car,
went back in, robbed him, got another twenty, went back
to the car, move the car. Oh my god, I
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don't know that it would hurt the business. I really don't.
I really don't. And again, you were just saying that
the double parking was less then went down.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, no, it did people because people were parking legally.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yes, exactly. Yeah, people were parking legally and having to
having to pay for it. And but but like especially
like an area, like any any of those places where
it is just nut to But flasher after flasher after
flasher after flasher of people going in together, and I don't,
I don't fault any of them. I would do the
same thing if I thank you, if I was door
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dashing by the time I got a park and I
got to pull out park mobile. I'd like, screw it, man,
I'll just go in there. I don't care. Hit me Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Gabe here can confirm they have this at my favorite
or rape of place.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But does he like it? Does he like the system?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That doesn't seem Oh.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
By the way, go up to that picture. Yes, okay.
So here's the other thing that they're going to try
to do. What is that that's smart? That's smart? So
instead of here's the other thing. What's the guy's name,
Charles Allen? The other thing that they the other program
that DC wants to try to do. So they want
to try to so Allen's pushing to try out the
essentially easy pass for parking. Right. The other thing that
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they want to try out is instead of having big
delivery trucks, so like UPS would still have would still
make deliveries, but in like congested areas, so instead of
like having a massive UPS truck or a massive FedEx
truck that's either parker taking up a lot of space. No,
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that I think Honda is is doing those e bikes
that have that look like itty bitty They're cute, look
like itty bitty little UPS trucks. So the little delivery area.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
That's I would say a little bigger than an e bike.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, but that's it's just built around an e bike.
He's not driving, that's an e bike. Oh okay, yeah,
so he's either going to use the throttle or pedal.
But that it's so much smaller. That's really smart. I
guess it is in the bike lanes. He's in the
bike lane. Yeah, so he's not even taking up space. Wow,
that's smart. I like that too.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And Gabe follows up with, uh, they're happy with it,
and the restaurant because the customers and every the delivery
guys likes it so much. They advertise it that they
have these curbs at their location.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh so it makes it easier to park and go in.
That's really smart. That's really smart. I hope they're listening
at Salt Line. The no no, so the these Now,
the downside may be that if you work for ups
that you have fewer shipments or whatever it may, it
may screw you. The exact way depot the dozens of
times it's like you robbing a bank. The But but
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that's an e bike. That's really smart. That's really smart.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Where's it clearly this is a real photo. Where where
is this being driven around?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Another project planned for the fall. Honda just started making
them quadricycles, is what they're kind of calling them. New
York just authorized them pedal assist e cargo bicycles. Honda
just started making them whatever they called. The ideas that
loading trucks stay at a centralized hub while the cycles
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are used to deliver door to door. So they would
park the truck at this location, and then you would
go by and just take your little e bike and
just kind of like go to the area to area
and then go back load it up and then go.
I kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I bet delivered delivery people hate it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Maybe maybe yeah, but I'm not one of them.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Diana probably feels guilty, knowing how much she orders. It's
like an albatross. Yeah, this this pedal assist quadricycle. I
think everything sounds pretty positive.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, I mean, other than we've we've eliminated we've eliminated enforcement,
so that sucks. I don't but sign them somewhere else,
send to rest them where they're not even on the system,
and then what else do we eliminate?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Well, they would be worrisome for those that don't like
to be tracked on the grid.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Okay, but you got to get over that at this point,
and then you know what, go to the bank and
get a roll of quarters and pay the freaking meter.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And get rid of your phone call.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
So you could, but you could understand.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I can't the other kid. I don't like being privacy based. Yeah, no,
I understand that. I understand that. But that's your decision.
You're not using part Mobile or easy pass anyway, probably
not if you're that intensive out it. Yeah, so walk
where am I going? Line three?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You got a solution for everything?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Hi, Elliott the morning, Good morning. He's a Sergeant Valdez
with a Seaside Heights Police Department conversation, and we're gonna
need mister Molnar to turn himself in. I would laugh.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
This is teachable moment.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You'll fake read the goddamn terms of service so that
your kids don't think you're doing anything wrong. But this
you'll break the law for.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I know it is quite hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Well you know what, Sergeant Valdez, I'll be sending his
plate to you. I'll take a picture.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
But also overpaid in other sessions and felt like Okay,
I've paid it forward for this quick stop.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
No, that's not how I.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
See what the judge says about that.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Hey, Hanks, I've paid for expensive oilbern now I'm just now,
I'm just gonna come in and just steal oysters. It's
the least you could do.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
You were the person who, when Hanks had an employee
in bezzling money from them, you said, that's actually my money.
Question number one, raise your hand. Do you have easy pass? Okay?
I see Tyler's hand, Diane, Kristen very good, and both
all three still hand on the other wheel. Very nice,
So yes to easy pass number two. Number two? Question
number two, do you have them use park Mobile? Okay,
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Diane's up, Kristen and Tyler, oh, very good, look at that.
All three yeses. Now, next question do you like Do
you like the convenience of one more than the convenience
of other the other?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I use park Mobile a lot more than easy Pass.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So that's not what I'm asking you. Is park Mobile
convenient for you? Yes, So it's convenient when you have
to open up the app and then you have to
kind of type in the zone and you have to
do and confirm like that's that. That's easier than easy pass,
I mean easy pass. Here's what you do for easy pass. Nothing,
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I'm just driving.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You get in the express lines, that's all you do.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah. Or you just drive, Yeah, that's all and your
account reloads auto medically.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah. Yeah. That so effort for easy pass, zero effort
for park mobile. Okay, there's some effort.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
There are in some states. I think New York is
just enacted legislation that if you don't have it mounted properly,
you're paying now a higher task.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, that sucks because I don't I mind just sitting
on the desh when I knead it out and I
put it away.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, I don't need it. I used to do that
all the time. Also, I keep it in the glove
compartment and then hold it up to the window. Yeah,
New York is shoving it to you. If you go
that route, you have to see you mount to your windshield. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Absolutely, So there's some effort in that the park mobile
is easier than seeing a spot number spray painted on
the ground walking to a parking KIOSK.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Could not agree more Yeah, could not agree more.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Is park mobile more convenient than some? Absolutely? Is it
as convenient as easy Pass?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
What if? What if I told you you could instead
of using park mobile, that there would be that there
is something coming that would allow you to It's not
easy pass, but it may as well be the same
thing where you would park using the same technology as
easy Pass, that it would all be part of your plate.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I check it out.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, oh wait, what's wrong?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, so I just dealt with parking kiosks a lot
last week. Yes, Jersey is full of them, especially Seaside Heights.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And there were a couple.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Times where I did not pay. I know, I'm coming
clean that. By the way, record scratch halt.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You didn't pay.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You just took a chance because I was just going.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
In no no, no, no, no no, uh.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
To get a cheese steak for myself and a mango kalada.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Can somebody call it?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm sorry, a mango kalada in a pineapple for my daughter.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Can somebody please? My hand is up, My hand is up.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Do you see what my concern would be?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
No, I do see what your concern is. But you
used to get mad at me because when I would
go to Hanks when they were in Old Town, they
had kiosk parking behind. I would just park in there
and run in, and you're like, you gotta pay.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I just knew it wasn't going to be the minimum
amount of time, okay, which was the hour.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
They in the car, and you just so there was
somebody in.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The gun matter.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Oh they also didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. By the way, that's that's breaking
the law. I know, that's breaking the law.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I know, but I could have easily because we were
there so often. When the credit card company said, the
township of Seaside Heights charged you nine dollars twice on
the same day because it was two three hour sessions. Uh,
is this a mistake? I could have said, yes, I know,
I had two three hour sessions right for a different day.
(04:04):
So if you're talking about a system like easy Paths,
you would have been charged for you to have no
choice but to pay correct.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, by the way, so take it to something that's
a real pain in the ass every and again. Listen,
I get it. People are just doing their gigs. Every
everybody go drive by light anywhere in Boston, anywhere in
clarendon the right lane you can't drive because everybody is
just double parks because it's everybody running into either grab
(04:34):
the food to take it to someone to be delivered
or vice versa. They would have to pay for that.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And is there a new system automatically charging an hour?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Or is it how long you're actually there?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
How long you're there? Okay, then it charges you based
on how long you're there.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'd be on more on board with it, but I
was not going to pay three dollars to run in
and get a cheese stick.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
The right, so instead you broke the law. I call
it whatever you want, but you broke the law. So
they're proposing this.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
There's a council member, Charles Allen from DC I don't know.
Charles Allen has introduced legislation that would allow for a
license plate system here. He was inspired by the chaotic
pickup and drop off traffic at the wharf Anyway, which
by the way, is a cluster f it. In half
(05:29):
the time, you can't even get to the curb because
there's four or five cars that park in there, or
flashers are going. Flashers are going. You're like, oh my god.
And because I like the street, park right by the
salt line there all the time. But if I can
find a spot on Wilson, it's such a home run.
But if somebody's going to like hawkers or something to
pick up food, the flashers are on. You can't get
(05:51):
any even use park mobile. This would charge them for that,
which means they would either a have to pay and
then that's okay, or they just couldn't sit there because
they know that they have to pay, So they would
have to figure something else out and then you have
to pay, which is fine you should.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Do you think, though, that this automatic charging is going
to stop people from throw it on their flashers and
doing it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I mean they're gonna have to pay. Yeah, so it
doesn't matter. I mean, is it gonna change double parking? No?
But they though, But they also know that if they
pull into a spot where you're supposed to pay, park
mobile or a kiosk like Tyler, running a foul of
the law. They all say the same thing. They all
(06:36):
say the same thing, What are the odds of cops
going to show up in the next three minutes that
it's going to take me to run inside, get my
stuff and come back out.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I had to walk past the chiefs take place to
get to the kiosk.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
How long were you there?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I didn't have to I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
No, but they were saying, fifty of curb stops are
seven minutes or less. But it takes up space. So
apparently this is already underway in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, where
systems very similar to this are are are already in use.
Says Pittsburgh is among cities using automotis aut o m
(07:17):
t us they paint purple stripes on curbs. Surprised when
Pittsburgh they're doing that, designating a pay by plate loading zone.
The charges start at less than a penny per minute,
but increase over time to encourage high turnover. Double parking
went down by ninety five percent because again instead of
double parking, know one, you can get screwed. They just
(07:37):
pull in and they go, you know what, if it's
going to be two minutes to run in or three
minutes to run in, it'll cost me virtually nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Leyay, you said less than a penny.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, but it starts to ramp up, so they know
that if you're going to be there for a minute
or two minutes, it doesn't cost you that much as
opposed to if there's a meter maid and I know
they don't like that term, but if there's a if
there's somebody outside who's ticketing, you're gonna get it, but
increases over time to encourage high turnover. Nearly all delivery
(08:10):
drivers who benefited were gig workers using their personal cars.
Most stayed for fifteen minutes or less. Philly is adopting
the same system. I don't know why I feel like
I should be against it, but I feel like I'm
into it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But how did it work out in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh, it's working out. It's working out great. Double parking
went down by ninety five percent. Wow, eighty seven percent
of driver cited for failure to register never did so again.
So if you got busted for parking there and you
weren't registered, like Tyler, if you got busted for parking
there without being registered, you got a ticket, didn't it?
(08:46):
But it was only one yes, So it was it
was hugely successful. And again I feel like I would
be against it, except I'll drive around the block in
Boston a million times by the mall because you can't
find a spot and there's thirty seven cars with flashers on.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And he said, it's called automotives.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
A U t O M O t U s am
I missing a downside.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Everything you've said has been pretty positive.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
But like, for example, I use I use I use
park mobile. So like if like down by the wharf anywhere,
whether it's down by the wharf in the district, it
doesn't matter anywhere you go.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh it says that the except.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Freaking rest in Jesus Christ, can you get on the
same system.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
The curb management also allows for zero emissions delivery zone.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, whatever, like that is that big deal?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, he's big into that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Nobody's got zero emissions. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
They're very proud of the Pittsburgh set up.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
It's been very successful. Well what is what am I missing? Like?
What is the downside?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I mean, it doesn't take the way jobs from human enforcement,
but so.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Does park mobile. And by the way, there are people
that are going to continue to break the rules.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Park mobile doesn't take away job from human enforcement. No.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
No, but I'm saying if you if you park legally,
you've taken away a job from human enforcement.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
No, because they go around and they check check for
like people violating for park mobile.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Oh oh okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah, so
i'm the play reader. You would take that away? Yeah, yeah,
you're usually.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Let's not say the job.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, no, no, but you know what, that's fair. That's
that's a fair answer.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I'm just trying to give you one negative.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No, it does. It takes away the job of a
meter bad. And again I know, I know, I know,
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
They're using this at airports too.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Now that wait, whoa where where where? Like at the
drop off?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
No, no, damn, I'm paying to drop somebody off at
the airport real that.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
No, No, there are signs up, but that's that you
can't sit there.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I don't sit.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You have to I have to stop.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
To get in the call. No, get I'll be there,
But I'm not. I circle and circle and circle like
at times at National I'm like, oh, could you make
the circle bigger? Like treat it like Dallas? How many times?
But you're going around and around and around. But I'm not.
If I stop to let you in the car, it's
(11:35):
gonna cost me five cents. Eat balls.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We are transforming the airport guest experience.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Get out with your flowery language to go over to
you know what, not just just experience. I'm just trying
to get dropped off.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Walk over, Just go to like the bus media and
I'll pick you up there.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Eliminating excessive dwell times.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Okay, now I do follow those rules.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
It sounds like you don't.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
No, no, you're going to charge me to drop somebody
off at the airport.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh, they're gonna charge you if you sit there. I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I don't sit I drive, so.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
You never when the person calls and says, all right,
I'm making my way towards the exit, you don't then
park it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I don't like. I don't like using the word never,
but I try to go all the way up to
the front or all the way to the back. It depends, honestly,
it depends on where you see the flash of lights
because and you don't like getting you go they point
right address, like, oh, back it down, man, I know,
(12:48):
I know by the way Tyler parked illegally at the kiosk.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
They can offer premium access to the curb and I
bet that's cheap. And there is. It looks like a
dynamic pricing. So the more congested it is, the more
you're going to pay a penalty if you decide to
park it.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Oh thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Hey, you're fine if you follow the rules, which I do.
And I sound like a hypocrite saying that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Now breaking the law, breaking the law.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Line too, Hi, we also got cheese balls. Hi, elliot
in the morning, dog, good morning, how are you? I am? Well,
thank you? What can I do for you? So I
was just gonna say, I wonder if the businesses are
not happy with it, because they're missing out on people
like Tyler pulling up. Oh so so the Mango the
(13:40):
Mango drink place is upset that now Tyler may not
go to the Mango drink place because he doesn't want
to pay the kiosk. Yep, they might lose. Well, that's
a that's a good point. But I mean no, no,
(14:01):
because was there the kiosk? Did you have to pay
all three hours?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
No, you have to pay at least an hour.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Okay, but wouldn't you think it was better if if
you only had to pay twenty five cents? Would you
have been better and you didn't have to do anything
but pull into the spot? Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, absolutely?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
So the I told you I was on board if
it just charged me for.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
The time, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I didn't want to pay what I thought was for
an hour amount when I needed it only for thirteen
minutes the fifteen well places on the boardwalk, that's a
quarter of an hour. I also moved the car once
to another spot where I parked illegally.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Unless I don't want him to tag my tires with
their white chaw.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I did think that that would help me because it
looked more like, oh this is cheese take place. I'm
going to unlimited Steaks on the other corner.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Wait, so you went to one shop, got the food,
came back to the car, moved to the spot, and
they went right back the same direction.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But onto the boardwalk. Then yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
My god, oh my god, because that he could break
the law. Rud I robbed a bank, but one bill
at a time. I went in, I got one twenty,
I went back out to the car, moved the car,
went back in, robbed him, got another twenty, went back
to the car, move the car. Oh my god, I
(15:24):
don't know that it would hurt the business. I really don't.
I really don't. And again, you were just saying that
the double parking was less then went down.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, no, it did people because people were parking legally.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yes, exactly. Yeah, people were parking legally and having to
having to pay for it. And but but like especially
like an area, like any any of those places where
it is just nut to But flasher after flasher after
flasher after flasher of people going in together, and I don't,
I don't fault any of them. I would do the
same thing if I thank you, if I was door
(15:58):
dashing by the time I got a park and I
got to pull out park mobile. I'd like, screw it, man,
I'll just go in there. I don't care. Hit me Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Gabe here can confirm they have this at my favorite
or rape of place.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But does he like it? Does he like the system?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That doesn't seem Oh.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
By the way, go up to that picture. Yes, okay.
So here's the other thing that they're going to try
to do. What is that that's smart? That's smart? So
instead of here's the other thing. What's the guy's name,
Charles Allen? The other thing that they the other program
that DC wants to try to do. So they want
to try to so Allen's pushing to try out the
essentially easy pass for parking. Right. The other thing that
(16:42):
they want to try out is instead of having big
delivery trucks, so like UPS would still have would still
make deliveries, but in like congested areas, so instead of
like having a massive UPS truck or a massive FedEx
truck that's either parker taking up a lot of space. No,
(17:03):
that I think Honda is is doing those e bikes
that have that look like itty bitty They're cute, look
like itty bitty little UPS trucks. So the little delivery area.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
That's I would say a little bigger than an e bike.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, but that's it's just built around an e bike.
He's not driving, that's an e bike. Oh okay, yeah,
so he's either going to use the throttle or pedal.
But that it's so much smaller. That's really smart. I
guess it is in the bike lanes. He's in the
bike lane. Yeah, so he's not even taking up space. Wow,
that's smart. I like that too.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And Gabe follows up with, uh, they're happy with it,
and the restaurant because the customers and every the delivery
guys likes it so much. They advertise it that they
have these curbs at their location.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Oh so it makes it easier to park and go in.
That's really smart. That's really smart. I hope they're listening
at Salt Line. The no no, so the these Now,
the downside may be that if you work for ups
that you have fewer shipments or whatever it may, it
may screw you. The exact way depot the dozens of
times it's like you robbing a bank. The But but
(18:19):
that's an e bike. That's really smart. That's really smart.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Where's it clearly this is a real photo. Where where
is this being driven around?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Another project planned for the fall. Honda just started making
them quadricycles, is what they're kind of calling them. New
York just authorized them pedal assist e cargo bicycles. Honda
just started making them whatever they called. The ideas that
loading trucks stay at a centralized hub while the cycles
(18:50):
are used to deliver door to door. So they would
park the truck at this location, and then you would
go by and just take your little e bike and
just kind of like go to the area to area
and then go back load it up and then go.
I kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I bet delivered delivery people hate it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Maybe maybe yeah, but I'm not one of them.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Diana probably feels guilty, knowing how much she orders. It's
like an albatross. Yeah, this this pedal assist quadricycle. I
think everything sounds pretty positive.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, I mean, other than we've we've eliminated we've eliminated enforcement,
so that sucks. I don't but sign them somewhere else,
send to rest them where they're not even on the system,
and then what else do we eliminate?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Well, they would be worrisome for those that don't like
to be tracked on the grid.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Okay, but you got to get over that at this point,
and then you know what, go to the bank and
get a roll of quarters and pay the freaking meter.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And get rid of your phone call.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
So you could, but you could understand.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I can't the other kid. I don't like being privacy based. Yeah, no,
I understand that. I understand that. But that's your decision.
You're not using part Mobile or easy pass anyway, probably
not if you're that intensive out it. Yeah, so walk
where am I going? Line three?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You got a solution for everything?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Hi, Elliott the morning, Good morning. He's a Sergeant Valdez
with a Seaside Heights Police Department conversation, and we're gonna
need mister Molnar to turn himself in. I would laugh.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
This is teachable moment.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You'll fake read the goddamn terms of service so that
your kids don't think you're doing anything wrong. But this
you'll break the law for.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I know it is quite hypocritical.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Well you know what, Sergeant Valdez, I'll be sending his
plate to you. I'll take a picture.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
But also overpaid in other sessions and felt like Okay,
I've paid it forward for this quick stop.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
No, that's not how I.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
See what the judge says about that.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Hey, Hanks, I've paid for expensive oilbern now I'm just now,
I'm just gonna come in and just steal oysters. It's
the least you could do.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
You were the person who, when Hanks had an employee
in bezzling money from them, you said, that's actually my money.
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