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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Isn't that normal to write it down? Or you're saying no,
just to have a list in mind?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
No, no, so I was freeing No, no, but I
need like to check in with it.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Like it's one thing right now? I have five? Is
that what you mean you?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
No, No, I'm not saying I'm saying like that. That would
be a comment I would expect from you.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Oh you know what?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
No, No, because that this is where this is where
I'm lost. Is I don't know whether I was reading
about somebody yesterday and they they literally said, I used
to make a list of all the managers that did
me wrong, and I was really mad at them because
they didn't treat me well or misunderstood me. Now doesn't
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make that list anymore, but used to make that list
the well number one, he doesn't work anymore, but he
started to feel so he would make this list, right,
And he had this list of bosses and managers that
were that either wouldn't give him a promotion or he
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felt like they mistreated him, or they just didn't understand him,
and therefore he didn't he wasn't treated the way that
he felt he should have been.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And he said that he stopped making this list.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Every single one of the people ended up getting fired
from their jobs, and instead of being satisfied, I felt
really sorry for them.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But was he already done working at this?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That's when I said to myself, you can't just hold
a grudge, can you. No?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I can't. It's just not in me.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I don't know if he was still working at the
time or if he was already done working at the time.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Because that definitely plays several And by the way, that
person's actually writing a list. You don't refer to maintaining
a list in your head as.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Making a list, right, so it's written down he said,
make Oh okay, well, then good on me.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I have I've never made a list that you could
rattle off names. You know what? You know what the
difference is with me and this guy. You can hold
a grudge, well, definitely hold a grudge.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I don't think I would feel sad for them if
they lost their job and listen, no, no, well yes, yes,
but I hate when people lose their jobs.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I hate when people lose their jobs.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Mostly because, and I've always said this, mostly because even
if I hate them and they deserve to lose their job,
that's fine, But there's part of me that feels bad.
Not for them, but there's part of me that feels bad,
like they still.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Have to call the call their family.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
They have to call family, they have to call their
their their parent, they have to call.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Somebody and go Today was a bad day. I got fired. Listen.
I've made that call plenty of times.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It sucks, But I don't know if I feel bad
about that, But I don't feel bad to the point
where I'm thinking, like, like I could rattle off a
couple of people where I would be I feel bad
that they have to make that call, but I relish
in the fact that they have to make that call.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I was gonna say the people in the past who
have come up, not on the air, but just in
your life, who you occasionally will see be written about
in publications about the industry when it's not good news.
I am trying to remember in the moment you've learned
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of the news where you have said, oh but the family,
I've definitely seen you be happy.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
But does does does anybody really keep a list?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Though? Oh god yes, no way, literally a written down list,
zero chance.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Who absolutely who.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I can't think of anybody but that doesn't seem like
out of the realm of possibility that somebody who super
super vindictive and they almost have like a little something
on their notes on their phone, like here's all the
people that I hate.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You think that exists? Yes? Do you think that exists?
Wait for work or personal? Both? I don't have either. Both.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I do think it exists, but I feel like you
have to worry about someone reporting you.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Who's going to report you? If it's not illegal to
have a list? I'm saying that's twice now, sound like
she has one. Do you have a list? No, I
swear personal or professional?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
No, it's just if something goes down and they find
this list, it may be evidence that works against you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
The no, I that is, that wouldn't be the case. Okay,
what are they going to do my phone?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I mean that happens all the time. Actually, and I
delete it. I'll be happy you have Apple. They don't
want to give up access ever. And now, do you
have a list? Diane has a list? I swear to
I don't have a list. What what list is? Longer?
Personal or professional?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I don't have a professional one.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You have a personal one?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
No? You know what's funny, I can't think of, like
in my head, of the people that I have grudges against,
I can't think of any of them.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Personal, call it grudges. But if it's like, there's nobody
that you that you would love, get it?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I oh, god, yeah, if there's. But if there is, give.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Me one, not a chance? Personal or professional? Name one
of the five that you can easily. I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I keep a list and a list, god, yeah, personal
or professional?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I don't have a professional one.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So it's personal. Personal to me seems worse. Why like professional,
like they've messed with you?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, yeah, personally people mess with you too.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That list you read about was all professional? Who me? Yeah?
The list you've read about, what's professional?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
List?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
We're learning about professional? Professional? Professional?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
When I think of if I had a list, I
think it would all be professional. I mean, I'm sure
there are personal people, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't. I don't have a mental list of them.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
No, And it's not like I don't. This isn't somebody
or people that you would think about and be like.
But if if I did find out that, oh that
person had some bad luck, it's not like I wouldn't
be like good, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So you keep the list so you don't forget about
these people.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You don't have to forget about them because they they
would maybe pop into your mind for some reason throughout
your normal day to day.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
But when something bad happens, you want to make sure
that you laugh a little bit, that you don't forget.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Living well is the best revenge to find joy, okay,
but laughing in their face is not living well.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't have an opportunity to laugh in
anybody's face.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I had just laughed in their face. No I didn't.
I was laughing at the microphone. She would just delete
the name on her notes.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Oh wait, so do you take them off your list?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
When I swear to God the list?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
But then once something happens to them, do they come
off the list?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Or are you still?
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, I hope, I hope the second courses is good. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They would look out that they only have one bad
thing happened, so.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Not enough can happen to them. No, And it's not.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Like I've got a voodoo dollar anything.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
No, no, no, that I believe.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But you have that, you you have that that exists.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yep, So what now has something. Go back to Elliott's
Guy has something?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Can we not call him my guy? I read about it.
I don't you know, I'm Maury Povich.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Why did you stumble upon his little story?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, it's not it's the principle, it's not the participant.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And his work specifically professional. It sounds like you signed
up for one of those master classes.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I used to make a list of all the managers
in television that did me wrong. There were about five
people on that list, and I was really mad at
them because they didn't treat me well or misunderstood me.
And every single one of those five people got fired
from their jobs, and instead of being satisfied, I felt
sorry for them. That's when I said to myself, you
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just can't hold a grudge, can you.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No, I can't. It's just not in me. So good
for him, if we're going to pretend there's no.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
By the way, it says right here, Maury Povitch no
longer keeps a list of people who have wronged him.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Freaking Wall Street Journal did that? God?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Were they out of things for Diane? These people taking
Now I know it's not Elliott's Guy, it's well, it's
still Elliot's guy. It's Mare Povitch taking Maury's approach to
when things were happening to these names on his list. Yeah,
for your not a list list? Has stuff happened to
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those people in the past? Like, have you had people
on this quote unquote list where you've heard of bad
things happening?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yes? And how did that make you feel? Reveled? How
bad did things happen to them?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Like, I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Professionally things didn't go their way? Sorry, but it sucks
to be you.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
For a moment in time.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Or did something derail them? Like were they able to
get back on their feet professionally?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Or was this pretty I don't know, I don't know,
pretty significant?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh my god? And were they struck by a bullet? No,
they didn't die. It sounds like you killed them. No,
I got one of those. No, huh, I got one
of those you have a list to. No, not written
down that that. I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I don't have anything written down. I got something in
what's left of this steel trap.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You can't remember, but I.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Could remember somebody who wronged me.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I've also never seen Diane sip a drink the way she.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Dian is sipping it like this is how you sip
champagne after you win.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
It's like I'm an emoji. Her legs across. She look
super comfortable, like a royal.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Well, I'm not dealing with it. A royal would have
fixed their hair. Yeah it is. I wasn't gonna say
anything because royal wouldn't have let me see there's uh,
there are sports brother this morning? Why Kristen looks very
upset hearing this? Wait, what are you upset about? Is
it Diane's list? Wow? Line for I bet Kristen's got
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a list? Do you have a list? Wait? Hold on,
turn yourself on in a second. Hi, Elliot in the morning. Yeah, Hi,
who's this?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
I'd better not say my name, but I do have
a manager burn book.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Do you really?
Speaker 6 (11:41):
I do range thing all the way from my very
first job at a movie theater to my current job
right now?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Which and uh, which movie theater? Which movie theater did
you work at?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
That was Regal in Rockville?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Gotcha when chimes eight and Houston? Respect nice?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Uh? But you know what, like I can think I'm
trying to remember, like I don't remember who the manager
at Walmart was who wouldn't let me stay on after stalking,
but I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I don't wish anything bad on them.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Oh, not at all. Like there's some people I'm like, sure,
you said it.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Goes back to your first job at the movie theater.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Yeah, And then there's like there's a couple of people
on there who they actually did get fired, And I'm like, oh,
I hope you have the life you deserve.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I hope you have the life you deserve and the
day you deserve.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I love those. That's such good shade. I don't think
we're going to top. It's not illegal to keep a list.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
What is your Now, let me ask you this is
there are you currently and maybe maybe this is what
you don't want to say, is your current manager in
the what did you call it your manager book?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Burn book?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yes, they are, Like I've definitely, and you've you've had
other managers that you didn't like, but they wouldn't be
in a in your burn book?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
No, not necessarily, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, exactly exactly. Like it's one thing to be an AFT,
it's another thing to be to be mean.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Yeah, you really got to tick me off and get
on my dad's side, get to get on the list.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
How many people are on the list oh Man.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
At one point it was easily five pages.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Oh Jesus Christ. Wow, all right, all right pages, all right,
I don't have something in common. But wait are they?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Are they?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Burgo? I hold on to grudges the.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
No, I'm an aquarius.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Hey the but are several of them like from the
same company?
Speaker 6 (13:49):
H No, different companies?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh wow, well you also work a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
All right, very good, very good, thank you, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
No, you know what I mean. Like if you said
you could have you could have.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Multi people in the same company, so it wouldn't just
be one manager like one job.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
It's true for your guy Moury, it was specifically managers, right, yeah,
said yes, what does Connie have to say?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
The nothing? Really? You know they she sleeps later.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Connie got wrong sometimes in her broadcasting career.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, but this wasn't a feature on Connie. It was
a feature on Moury. But is she happy to have
him get away from the stress?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Really it was more about Maury than it was about
how Connie feels. He I know, he gets up earlier
than Connie, but he still says that without like con
without Connie, he would have never made it. Really, Yeah,
that Connie was the one.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Hadn't he already made it by the time that they
got together.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, but he was. He was like he was hosting
a circus Connie.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It was like a newsperson, Okay, was he that was
like the current affair era before he got into like
Maury Povid show.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, before he was like doing eternities and DNA testing.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah. From the I have only truly hated one person
in my life. Oh stop. They ended up dying from leukemia.
I don't feel bad.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, Well Maury would have. Yeah, that's where Mary would
have said he felt bad for him. You you have one.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, just one professional, a professional one that you hate.
It hates a strong word, but yes.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
And if something, if they lost their if they lost
their job, you would you would feel bad for them.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Well, they did lose their job, and I laughed about
it after I got cut. Well it wasn't really cut.
I was pushed out of a previous company.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So you you lost your job and then they lost
their job and you laughed.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
About And I was asked to come back, and I said.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
No, why because that guy was gone? Why not go back?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
It was a lady and she ruined, But it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Was a lady who got fired. So you didn't say cut.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
She ruined, she ruined I believed in the I still
believe in the company. But uh I no, I get that.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I get that. She Yeah, she ruined it.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, and she ruined your spirit and belief in the company.
Or she ruined the company.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Oh, actually a little bit of both. That's why she
was asked, Well, she got cut.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I can see that. I can see that. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, she turned the company into something that you never
saw it as. And you were like, I have no
interest in doing that.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yep. So when she finally got booted, word got back
to me and I laughed, it's about time.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Did you get let go because of her actions and
her decision making within the company, or yes, because it
doesn't sound like she ever personally messed with your livelihood?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Uh. It put me in a dark space that it
got to the point where I did not want to,
after the fact, go into the to work anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Oh there, that's before the fact.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Yeah, I got I got put on a you know,
a pit popip.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Oh yeah, Kristin, here's what happened. You wait, whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Whoa, I know what I can't get anybody else?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Can we stop pips on it? Do you know how
many pips I've been on?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And I believe it? The Yeah, but pips aren't bad.
Well here's here's are not good.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
The honestly, I look at me, go this is they're worthless.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
They're looking for something. No, it's building the case that's
not good. I mean pips I've been on. How long
is the case? But you've also messed up a lot.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
No, I can't see Kristen legitimately being placed on one.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Neither I got served.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Okay, I've also been subpoenaed and they are far different.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
They are far different.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
I was really angry and I took it when she
met with me and said, I'm putting you on a
pit plan. This is why, and I.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Just just can I just it just it's going to
annoy me.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You don't get put on a PIP plan you get
plan is the last p and pip you just get
put on a pips.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
He also use as an ATM machine.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Why why did they tell you were being put placed
on a PIP?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Because I would And I'm not just saying this because
it's me speaking I have a whole group of people
that could tell you the same thing. I was succeeding
in a company, growing a company or different branches, and
a new person came in to take over and told
me how she wanted it to be done. So then
I started doing it her route. Then the just went
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to sh.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Right right now, that's okay, it's very emotional.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
So because because of her actions.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I got PM Why but why would I don't understand.
It's you got pipped.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I don't understand why you would get pipped, even though
your performance may have may have may have struggled, but
you were doing it at the direction.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Of your manager exactly. So that's that's what doesn't make
any sense to me.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
That's what I had to tell the president when he
reached out and said, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
What did you change and did you come off of
the pip after you talked to the president.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
I talked to the president. Then I got pipped. Then
I had all my a huge team behind me to
help me get to these extremely unreachable goals. But I
did it in thirty days.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I got a girl, and then I turned in my.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Two weeks because I and then she was so caught
off cad. She's like, oh, I don't want you to leave.
I said, then why did.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You pip me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Exactly exactly a lot of times they'll say.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
The PIP is the first sign pip you. I feel like.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I also like and I know that they'll like, they'll
give you a timeline on a PIP. In a lot
of cases it's thirty days. I have never had a
follow up that says you're off of a PIP.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Oh you just you kind of know what the end
date is.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Doesn't that happen yere?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Or how many are ongoing failure?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, I mine are all still open.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I've definitely been placed on multiple pips, but I've never
had I've never had anybody come and go, hey, just
so you know your your your your your PIP window
is closed.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Way to improve. But we knew that about you with Kristen.
Isn't this something that should have come up in the interview?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I don't ask have you ever been put on PIP?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I just assume everybody has.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Like the conversation the two of you just had sounded
like it was a hiring manager talking to a prospective employee.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, but that's okay. But that's good.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
It led me to you.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Exactly, see, I know, but retroactively, you can't have a
trouble maker on the stat we already have. Elliott has
open pips.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But to me, yeah, like that's not a big deal
to me. I know that for some people, like of
getting a PIP is a big deal. I don't care.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I had never had one before, been in trouble.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, so I took it to heart me too.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
So but now does this person now that they've gotten fired,
are they out of your are they off your list
of one? Or will you forever hold like they good
they got it done? Or is this a case of
like it can never get bad enough?
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Uh, that's good. Like once once she was out, then
it was like one and nine. I laughed, and I'm like, good,
she deserves to not be in that position, right. I
don't know what she's doing now all as well.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
But if you ran, if you heard of further misfortune,
you'd be.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Like, so you would never if she if she came
to pick up a T shirt and you saw her,
would you would you interact friendly with her?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I would try not to associate with her, okay, because
she'd be you know, all fake. Oh, how are you?
None of your business? Can you see that? Wait,
Isn't that normal to write it down? Or you're saying no,
just to have a list in mind?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
No, no, so I was freeing No, no, but I
need like to check in with it.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Like it's one thing right now? I have five? Is
that what you mean you?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
No, No, I'm not saying I'm saying like that. That would
be a comment I would expect from you.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Oh you know what?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
No, No, because that this is where this is where
I'm lost. Is I don't know whether I was reading
about somebody yesterday and they they literally said, I used
to make a list of all the managers that did
me wrong, and I was really mad at them because
they didn't treat me well or misunderstood me. Now doesn't
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make that list anymore, but used to make that list
the well number one, he doesn't work anymore, but he
started to feel so he would make this list, right,
And he had this list of bosses and managers that
were that either wouldn't give him a promotion or he
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felt like they mistreated him, or they just didn't understand him,
and therefore he didn't he wasn't treated the way that
he felt he should have been.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And he said that he stopped making this list.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Every single one of the people ended up getting fired
from their jobs, and instead of being satisfied, I felt
really sorry for them.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But was he already done working at this?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That's when I said to myself, you can't just hold
a grudge, can you. No?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I can't. It's just not in me.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I don't know if he was still working at the
time or if he was already done working at the time.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Because that definitely plays several And by the way, that
person's actually writing a list. You don't refer to maintaining
a list in your head as.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Making a list, right, so it's written down he said,
make Oh okay, well, then good on me.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I have I've never made a list that you could
rattle off names. You know what? You know what the
difference is with me and this guy. You can hold
a grudge, well, definitely hold a grudge.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I don't think I would feel sad for them if
they lost their job and listen, no, no, well yes, yes,
but I hate when people lose their jobs.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I hate when people lose their jobs.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Mostly because, and I've always said this, mostly because even
if I hate them and they deserve to lose their job,
that's fine, But there's part of me that feels bad.
Not for them, but there's part of me that feels bad,
like they still.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Have to call the call their family.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
They have to call family, they have to call their
their their parent, they have to call.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Somebody and go Today was a bad day. I got fired. Listen.
I've made that call plenty of times.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It sucks, But I don't know if I feel bad
about that, But I don't feel bad to the point
where I'm thinking, like, like I could rattle off a
couple of people where I would be I feel bad
that they have to make that call, but I relish
in the fact that they have to make that call.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I was gonna say the people in the past who
have come up, not on the air, but just in
your life, who you occasionally will see be written about
in publications about the industry when it's not good news.
I am trying to remember in the moment you've learned
(03:40):
of the news where you have said, oh but the family,
I've definitely seen you be happy.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
But does does does anybody really keep a list?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Though? Oh god yes, no way, literally a written down list,
zero chance.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Who absolutely who.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I can't think of anybody but that doesn't seem like
out of the realm of possibility that somebody who super
super vindictive and they almost have like a little something
on their notes on their phone, like here's all the
people that I hate.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You think that exists? Yes? Do you think that exists?
Wait for work or personal? Both? I don't have either. Both.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I do think it exists, but I feel like you
have to worry about someone reporting you.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Who's going to report you? If it's not illegal to
have a list? I'm saying that's twice now, sound like
she has one. Do you have a list? No, I
swear personal or professional?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
No, it's just if something goes down and they find
this list, it may be evidence that works against you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
The no, I that is, that wouldn't be the case. Okay,
what are they going to do my phone?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I mean that happens all the time. Actually, and I
delete it. I'll be happy you have Apple. They don't
want to give up access ever. And now, do you
have a list? Diane has a list? I swear to
I don't have a list. What what list is? Longer?
Personal or professional?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I don't have a professional one.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You have a personal one?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
No? You know what's funny, I can't think of, like
in my head, of the people that I have grudges against,
I can't think of any of them.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Personal, call it grudges. But if it's like, there's nobody
that you that you would love, get it?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I oh, god, yeah, if there's. But if there is, give.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Me one, not a chance? Personal or professional? Name one
of the five that you can easily. I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I keep a list and a list, god, yeah, personal
or professional?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I don't have a professional one.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So it's personal. Personal to me seems worse. Why like professional,
like they've messed with you?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, yeah, personally people mess with you too.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That list you read about was all professional? Who me? Yeah?
The list you've read about, what's professional?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
List?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
We're learning about professional? Professional? Professional?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
When I think of if I had a list, I
think it would all be professional. I mean, I'm sure
there are personal people, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I don't. I don't have a mental list of them.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
No, And it's not like I don't. This isn't somebody
or people that you would think about and be like.
But if if I did find out that, oh that
person had some bad luck, it's not like I wouldn't
be like good, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So you keep the list so you don't forget about
these people.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You don't have to forget about them because they they
would maybe pop into your mind for some reason throughout
your normal day to day.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
But when something bad happens, you want to make sure
that you laugh a little bit, that you don't forget.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Living well is the best revenge to find joy, okay,
but laughing in their face is not living well.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't have an opportunity to laugh in
anybody's face.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I had just laughed in their face. No I didn't.
I was laughing at the microphone. She would just delete
the name on her notes.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Oh wait, so do you take them off your list?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
When I swear to God the list?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
But then once something happens to them, do they come
off the list?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Or are you still?
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well, I hope, I hope the second courses is good. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They would look out that they only have one bad
thing happened, so.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Not enough can happen to them. No, And it's not.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Like I've got a voodoo dollar anything.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
No, no, no, that I believe.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But you have that, you you have that that exists.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yep, So what now has something. Go back to Elliott's
Guy has something?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Can we not call him my guy? I read about it.
I don't you know, I'm Maury Povich.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Why did you stumble upon his little story?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, it's not it's the principle, it's not the participant.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And his work specifically professional. It sounds like you signed
up for one of those master classes.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I used to make a list of all the managers
in television that did me wrong. There were about five
people on that list, and I was really mad at
them because they didn't treat me well or misunderstood me.
And every single one of those five people got fired
from their jobs, and instead of being satisfied, I felt
sorry for them. That's when I said to myself, you
(08:56):
just can't hold a grudge, can you.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No, I can't. It's just not in me. So good
for him, if we're going to pretend there's no.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
By the way, it says right here, Maury Povitch no
longer keeps a list of people who have wronged him.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Freaking Wall Street Journal did that? God?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Were they out of things for Diane? These people taking
Now I know it's not Elliott's Guy, it's well, it's
still Elliot's guy. It's Mare Povitch taking Maury's approach to
when things were happening to these names on his list. Yeah,
for your not a list list? Has stuff happened to
(09:34):
those people in the past? Like, have you had people
on this quote unquote list where you've heard of bad
things happening?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yes? And how did that make you feel? Reveled? How
bad did things happen to them?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Like, I mean.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Professionally things didn't go their way? Sorry, but it sucks
to be you.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
For a moment in time.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Or did something derail them? Like were they able to
get back on their feet professionally?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Or was this pretty I don't know, I don't know,
pretty significant?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh my god? And were they struck by a bullet? No,
they didn't die. It sounds like you killed them. No,
I got one of those. No, huh, I got one
of those you have a list to. No, not written
down that that. I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I don't have anything written down. I got something in
what's left of this steel trap.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You can't remember, but I.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Could remember somebody who wronged me.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I've also never seen Diane sip a drink the way she.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Dian is sipping it like this is how you sip
champagne after you win.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
It's like I'm an emoji. Her legs across. She look
super comfortable, like a royal.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Well, I'm not dealing with it. A royal would have
fixed their hair. Yeah it is. I wasn't gonna say
anything because royal wouldn't have let me see there's uh,
there are sports brother this morning? Why Kristen looks very
upset hearing this? Wait, what are you upset about? Is
it Diane's list? Wow? Line for I bet Kristen's got
(11:22):
a list? Do you have a list? Wait? Hold on,
turn yourself on in a second. Hi, Elliot in the morning. Yeah, Hi,
who's this?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
I'd better not say my name, but I do have
a manager burn book.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Do you really?
Speaker 6 (11:41):
I do range thing all the way from my very
first job at a movie theater to my current job
right now?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Which and uh, which movie theater? Which movie theater did
you work at?
Speaker 6 (11:52):
That was Regal in Rockville?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Gotcha when chimes eight and Houston? Respect nice?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Uh? But you know what, like I can think I'm
trying to remember, like I don't remember who the manager
at Walmart was who wouldn't let me stay on after stalking,
but I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I don't wish anything bad on them.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Oh, not at all. Like there's some people I'm like, sure,
you said it.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Goes back to your first job at the movie theater.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Yeah, And then there's like there's a couple of people
on there who they actually did get fired, And I'm like, oh,
I hope you have the life you deserve.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I hope you have the life you deserve and the
day you deserve.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I love those. That's such good shade. I don't think
we're going to top. It's not illegal to keep a list.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
What is your Now, let me ask you this is
there are you currently and maybe maybe this is what
you don't want to say, is your current manager in
the what did you call it your manager book?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Burn book?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yes, they are, Like I've definitely, and you've you've had
other managers that you didn't like, but they wouldn't be
in a in your burn book?
Speaker 6 (13:12):
No, not necessarily, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, exactly exactly. Like it's one thing to be an AFT,
it's another thing to be to be mean.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Yeah, you really got to tick me off and get
on my dad's side, get to get on the list.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
How many people are on the list oh Man.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
At one point it was easily five pages.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Oh Jesus Christ. Wow, all right, all right pages, all right,
I don't have something in common. But wait are they?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Are they?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Burgo? I hold on to grudges the.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
No, I'm an aquarius.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Hey the but are several of them like from the
same company?
Speaker 6 (13:49):
H No, different companies?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh wow, well you also work a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
All right, very good, very good, thank you, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
No, you know what I mean. Like if you said
you could have you could have.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Multi people in the same company, so it wouldn't just
be one manager like one job.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
It's true for your guy Moury, it was specifically managers, right, yeah,
said yes, what does Connie have to say?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
The nothing? Really? You know they she sleeps later.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Connie got wrong sometimes in her broadcasting career.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, but this wasn't a feature on Connie. It was
a feature on Moury. But is she happy to have
him get away from the stress?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Really it was more about Maury than it was about
how Connie feels. He I know, he gets up earlier
than Connie, but he still says that without like con
without Connie, he would have never made it. Really, Yeah,
that Connie was the one.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Hadn't he already made it by the time that they
got together.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, but he was. He was like he was hosting
a circus Connie.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It was like a newsperson, Okay, was he that was
like the current affair era before he got into like
Maury Povid show.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, before he was like doing eternities and DNA testing.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah. From the I have only truly hated one person
in my life. Oh stop. They ended up dying from leukemia.
I don't feel bad.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, Well Maury would have. Yeah, that's where Mary would
have said he felt bad for him. You you have one.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah, just one professional, a professional one that you hate.
It hates a strong word, but yes.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
And if something, if they lost their if they lost
their job, you would you would feel bad for them.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Well, they did lose their job, and I laughed about
it after I got cut. Well it wasn't really cut.
I was pushed out of a previous company.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So you you lost your job and then they lost
their job and you laughed.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
About And I was asked to come back, and I said.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
No, why because that guy was gone? Why not go back?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
It was a lady and she ruined, But it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Was a lady who got fired. So you didn't say cut.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
She ruined, she ruined I believed in the I still
believe in the company. But uh I no, I get that.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I get that. She Yeah, she ruined it.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, and she ruined your spirit and belief in the company.
Or she ruined the company.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Oh, actually a little bit of both. That's why she
was asked, Well, she got cut.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I can see that. I can see that. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, she turned the company into something that you never
saw it as. And you were like, I have no
interest in doing that.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yep. So when she finally got booted, word got back
to me and I laughed, it's about time.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Did you get let go because of her actions and
her decision making within the company, or yes, because it
doesn't sound like she ever personally messed with your livelihood?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Uh. It put me in a dark space that it
got to the point where I did not want to,
after the fact, go into the to work anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Oh there, that's before the fact.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
Yeah, I got I got put on a you know,
a pit popip.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Oh yeah, Kristin, here's what happened. You wait, whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Whoa, I know what I can't get anybody else?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Can we stop pips on it? Do you know how
many pips I've been on?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And I believe it? The Yeah, but pips aren't bad.
Well here's here's are not good.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
The honestly, I look at me, go this is they're worthless.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
They're looking for something. No, it's building the case that's
not good. I mean pips I've been on. How long
is the case? But you've also messed up a lot.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
No, I can't see Kristen legitimately being placed on one.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Neither I got served.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Okay, I've also been subpoenaed and they are far different.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
They are far different.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
I was really angry and I took it when she
met with me and said, I'm putting you on a
pit plan. This is why, and I.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Just just can I just it just it's going to
annoy me.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You don't get put on a PIP plan you get
plan is the last p and pip you just get
put on a pips.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
He also use as an ATM machine.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Why why did they tell you were being put placed
on a PIP?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Because I would And I'm not just saying this because
it's me speaking I have a whole group of people
that could tell you the same thing. I was succeeding
in a company, growing a company or different branches, and
a new person came in to take over and told
me how she wanted it to be done. So then
I started doing it her route. Then the just went
(19:00):
to sh.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Right right now, that's okay, it's very emotional.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
So because because of her actions.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I got PM Why but why would I don't understand.
It's you got pipped.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I don't understand why you would get pipped, even though
your performance may have may have may have struggled, but
you were doing it at the direction.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Of your manager exactly. So that's that's what doesn't make
any sense to me.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
That's what I had to tell the president when he
reached out and said, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
What did you change and did you come off of
the pip after you talked to the president.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
I talked to the president. Then I got pipped. Then
I had all my a huge team behind me to
help me get to these extremely unreachable goals. But I
did it in thirty days.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I got a girl, and then I turned in my.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Two weeks because I and then she was so caught
off cad. She's like, oh, I don't want you to leave.
I said, then why did.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You pip me? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Exactly exactly a lot of times they'll say.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
The PIP is the first sign pip you. I feel like.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I also like and I know that they'll like, they'll
give you a timeline on a PIP. In a lot
of cases it's thirty days. I have never had a
follow up that says you're off of a PIP.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Oh you just you kind of know what the end
date is.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Doesn't that happen yere?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Or how many are ongoing failure?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, I mine are all still open.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I've definitely been placed on multiple pips, but I've never
had I've never had anybody come and go, hey, just
so you know your your your your your PIP window
is closed.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Way to improve. But we knew that about you with Kristen.
Isn't this something that should have come up in the interview?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I don't ask have you ever been put on PIP?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I just assume everybody has.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Like the conversation the two of you just had sounded
like it was a hiring manager talking to a prospective employee.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, but that's okay. But that's good.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
It led me to you.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Exactly, see, I know, but retroactively, you can't have a
trouble maker on the stat we already have. Elliott has
open pips.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But to me, yeah, like that's not a big deal
to me. I know that for some people, like of
getting a PIP is a big deal. I don't care.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I had never had one before, been in trouble.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, so I took it to heart me too.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
So but now does this person now that they've gotten fired,
are they out of your are they off your list
of one? Or will you forever hold like they good
they got it done? Or is this a case of
like it can never get bad enough?
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Uh, that's good. Like once once she was out, then
it was like one and nine. I laughed, and I'm like, good,
she deserves to not be in that position, right. I
don't know what she's doing now all as well.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
But if you ran, if you heard of further misfortune,
you'd be.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Like, so you would never if she if she came
to pick up a T shirt and you saw her,
would you would you interact friendly with her?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I would try not to associate with her, okay, because
she'd be you know, all fake. Oh, how are you?
None of your business? Can you see that? Wait,
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