EITM: Youth Sports Refs 9/25/25

"... like a street monitor?"

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Like a street monitor.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Did you do it again yesterday?

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yes? I did. Yes, I had my gloves. I told
you I was going to get them the and what
do you mean to go on? The orange? Okay, a
bright orange? And I was offered a vest by another.
One of the fathers declined the vest.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Wait, did Lindsay do it with you?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
She did? But as I told you from last week.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Were you the RoadHead again? I was excellent?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I was, but Lindsay was not going to be near
me because she said we fought the whole time and
I yelled at her. So she was way down. She
was the road bottom. I didn't even see her. I
was paired up with somebody else, but no kids hit
my car. So a successful cross country meeting for two.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Can I ask you this though, and listen, I know
that it's it's new to you guys.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Are are there parents who work the referees?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Uh? So there aren't any referees, so you sing? Are
their parents that?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
So there's nobody?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
There's the cars to cut in the quicker between groups
of runners?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Okay, are we really putting the gloves on?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I was gonna shot you because I hate the color orange.
So I made sure I wore a Georgetown shirt. And
also I maintain neutrality. I told you that last week.
I rot here for any of the schools right when
I'm trying to marshal.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
So there's no So there's no officials in in cross country.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Uh, there's people that can identify if someone maybe cuts
a corner, but they're not they're not like designated by that,
but they're.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Not okay, but they're not wearing stripes or anything like that,
or they're not calling balls and stripes.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Jesus Tyler. Well, this is the longest putting on of
the usually purple.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
But now what I can do is help out at
the snackshack exactly brown rice, carnea, sada. But you do
mention that I am new to it, right, so perhaps
at bigger meats, maybe there will be people out there
really officiating the run to make sure everything is fair
and good. But I will say this, because last night
was our final home meet of the season, so it

(02:05):
was senior night. I couldn't stop crying. I know, I know, Kristen,
it was. It was on brand, but it was also
kind of surprising. Did they do it prior to or
post prior they did it? Prior, so I told you
that's how it was going to be. I didn't know
they would be marching out with their families.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
What did you think they were gonna do.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I've never been a part of a senior night out.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
So they hand their parents flowers.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Georgetown basketball, which is I thought really special because it's
at like Capital One Arena and not on the track
at the high school.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Do the kids so the parents come out, they take
a picture. Do the kids give.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
The parents flowers or the mom's flowers?

Speaker 1 (02:43):
There were flowers, there were baskets of good ease.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I guess did they have posters up of the seniors?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Did?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, those are hanging in the house.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
It was so emotional. I was so happy. I had
sunglasses on and I know what you're thinking, it was raining,
but I had on my second last year.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
It's awesome, though, it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Senior Night's great, like for both boys at Yorktown and
then my younger one they didn't have a hockey program,
but he played for another school.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Like who was able to bring in non students?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
But yeah, like posters, the whole thing, and you know,
they come out with the flowers for Jackie and stuff,
it's great.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Senior Night's awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
And they had the whole PA system set up and
where they announced the kids, teacher ran through a little
statement that each kid wrote. It was really well done.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah we had Wes Johnson do ours. We call that
a favor the uh no.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
But it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
And someone said to me, did you get emotional because
you envisioned four years from now?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Oh no, this was strictly for them.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Cry next year too, exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I said no.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
If anything, I wasn't even thinking about my son. I
was just thinking about these families. Yeah, you know, these nameless,
faceless kids. I have no idea what their names are. Yeah, no,
that's who.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I was bawling for. I don't Senior Night's awesome.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
You're right, I don't know all of the kids, but
it didn't matter. Yeah, I guess those I did know.
Oh man, by the way, touching.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
This will be the test.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
You're going to be the road team for somebody else's
senior night. Whether you cry then, because I can tell
you this based on experience, you don't like most people
are like, oh god, why did we have to end
up at their senior night? Let's go, let's go, or
you're like, Oh, it's senior night out in the parking
lot drinking.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
But what about the experiences you have with me? I
probably will, I'm sure I won't.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
So oh, line too, line too? Hi Elliott the morning? Yeah, Hi,
who's this?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Let's peep from Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Hey, how you doing, Pete? Peter? You do you do?
Do you do? Up? Do you do? Youth referee refereeing?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I used to, yes, and I got both of my
sons involved in it. We used to rescue soccer.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Right, And can I ask how long ago was that? Oh?

Speaker 4 (05:13):
My gosh, at least about ten years.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Perfect, No, that's perfect.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
So two things like I mentioned when I was talking
to Dusty Sligh that one of the comics that goes
out on the road is kind of that I don't
know what it's like, that whole Nateland group, right. So
it's like Dusty and Aaron Weber and the Nate Barghetsi
And then they have like other other friends. So one
of them is this guy named Jay Flake, and he
was talking about he's a comedian and he goes out

(05:40):
and he tours and he travels, but he was always
a referee.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Can I ask you this, he mentioned two things.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
He mentioned two things, and listen, I grew up playing
youth sports baseball and and and my kids played hockey.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
So and we've all.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Seen how parents are jackasses? Did you I'm assuming it
was no different ten years ago. Parents were up your
ass and yelling and screaming.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Oh, I was on both sides because both my friends
played you know, competitive soccer travel high school. So yeah,
I was on both sides of that coin normally got
it up my ass and then they normally gave it
back later on that week.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Two things, Did you ever pull this trick?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
So?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
And I've never heard this before.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
So Jay was talking and said when he was refereeing,
if it got really bad, like with the parents and
everybody like oh that's a foul, that's what Oh what
are you doing, he would go up to both coaches
and go, hey, just so you know, I'm calling everything
by the book. I am calling every infraction. It doesn't matter.

(06:47):
I'm done hearing it. I'm done hearing the coaches yell
at me. I'm done hearing the parents yell at me.
I'm calling every infraction, every small thing, by the book
and by the okay, you're okay, and by the time
they would get to the end of the quarter, they'd.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Be like, all right, come on, man, speed the game up,
like this is taken forever.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
So he was like, so instead of fighting with them
and yelling, he would just go, you're right, I'm gonna
call this by the book.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
And he was like and at that point parents would
be like, come on, let him play, let him play.
So it totally switched it up.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
I've never heard of that tactic.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I have it either, and I thought it was genius.
And he said, the younger they are, especially if it's basketball, baseball, hockey,
anything like that, where.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's like traveling and double dribbling exactly, my goodness, he.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Said, reaching in somebody thinking it's a charge, bumping into it.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
He's like basketball.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
And he did say that basketball, I'd shut the whole
game down.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
He was like, you don't understand. You want me to
call the game.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm going to nobody will score at all because you
will never get close enough to the basket. And he
said it got to the point where parents would flip
and be like, Jesus Stripes, let him play. I've never
heard that before, and I loved it. I loved it.
But then he mentioned one other thing, where.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Am I going?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Line three? Hi Ellie in the morning? Hello, Hey, who's this.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Christina from Lplata?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Were you a you? Were you a youth ref?

Speaker 6 (08:24):
I am a youth wress and a high school coach.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh dude, so you're no stranger to it. Are you
a better are you?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Are you a better coach in terms of yelling because
you're also a ref?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (08:41):
But I'm also much more nitpicky because a lot of
stuff doesn't get called at the high school level, and
it drives me insane. I've had two kids already this
fall season go to the er because of stuff that
wasn't called.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
What do you want you want me to slow it down?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I'll grind this thing to a halt.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Yeah, I'm like, dude, just call it safety issue. Nope,
we don't call it at high school.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
I don't know if lacrosse has it, if you're coaching lacrosse.
But the other thing he said, and he said this
is very big in the reffing world, is refs like
to brag about who they reft when they were young.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Oh, those who've gone on to those who.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Have gone off.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Well, whether it's major leagues or like college or something,
and he said, it is annoying a f that you'll
have all these guys going yep. I remember I called
fall ball once and you know, so and so came through,
and I remember I did spring twenty ten, So and

(09:44):
so came through.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
And he said, it's like it is and you want
to go, okay, can we go out?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I got now, I've got, I got little Jimmy's dad.
Who's up my ass? I don't need to hear it,
but that is the brag of all brags for youth rest.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
And he said it could not be more annoying.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Now.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I don't know if you would get that in lacrosse
as much.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
Maybe so it's not so much like.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Honestly, you know, BLLL and w L is just really
starting to take off, right. You don't have that track
like other sports. But I coached field hockey and.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
And lacrosse for girls at the high school.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
You get a lot of the travel kid. The officials
kind of know the travel kids very well, right, So
we've we've had some games where the officials have been
calling the opposing team by their first name out on
the field, and things are getting ignored ooh.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Boy, oh yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
All right, very good, thank you, thank you, ma'am. Ooh
that's that would if I that would piss me off. Yes,
that would piss me off you specific yes.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh that'd be hot.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Like that makes me wonder like at the let's just
use the NHL level. Do those refs like I know that,
like they'll go, you know, tripping, you know whatever on
the ice.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Do they will? Will they say like.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Pierre Luketawi was on with us yesterday, like if there's
if if if he if he slashes somebody, do they
skate by and go, come on, PLD, let's go you're
going Like do they say do they they all know them,
they all know each other, you're all pros at that point,
I don't know. I wonder if they do or is
it like once the penalty is called, if if PLD

(11:41):
starts running his mouth, I wonder if.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
That point they're like, hey, hey, du bois cut it?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Or do you just go by number?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I would think they go by number. I would think
everybody's a number.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Just to avoid any claims A favorite to say come.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
On, oh that would drive that would make me hot.
Line three Hi Elliott in the morning.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Good morning Elliott, Ron Willkins here, I am doing well.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Thank you. Where are you a or what I should say?
Where are you a wrap?

Speaker 5 (12:12):
You got it? So I've been reppinged for ome embarrass
submitted fifty years.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Oh my god, dude, good for you. You must have
the biggest skin in the world.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Oh, you know, the parents are much harder than the kids.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know that, sure, of course.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yeah, that's four sports predominantly basketball, soccer, tennis, and now
pick a ball very popular pickleball.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh there you go, hey, do you do you? Yes? Parents?
Coaches are bad, Yes, every so often.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I'm sure at the youth level you get some kids
that are rough the Have you ever gone over to
a coach? Though I love the idea of grinding the
game to a halt, calling.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Everything, No, I haven't ever, never been tempted to do that.
At the end of the day, of the game is
for the kids. The coaches, well, they're feeding their egos often.
But you know, I've been a coach too, and it
could be tough when you see it differently than a
ref does. But I always stand to my whistle. That's
generally very effective. I don't think it can be better.

(13:12):
Come on out here to get certified. Dude, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
That.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Now I'll ask you this, is it true in your
I mean you've been you've been reffing a long time,
which I like. Yeah, is that a big thing in
the referee world to brag about who you reffed when
they were coming up?

Speaker 5 (13:31):
You know, it's interesting. It used to be, but I
don't think it is any longer. And it's only because
you know, as you go across all the sports, so
many people are making it into money now. You know,
there's just so many different avenues to go up through.
And yeah, yeah, I don't know. I suppose there's a few.

(13:52):
I mean, I could really date myself and name some
NBA players that I coached back when they were playing
AAU ball who you know, they made the college ranks
even they were playing high school or whatever. Well, one
of my saddest stories is a kid by the name
of Lenny Bias.

Speaker 8 (14:07):
Remember him?

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, sure of course, Oh my god, you coached Len Bias.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
I didn't coach him, No, I just referenced, Oh.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
You raped him, you raffed him.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
I got jam Sorry, Yeah, No, that's okay, that's Okay, no,
I didn't get to coach him, but there was an
example of a kid who had all the potential in
the world. Such a sad story and did a celt
expand course really burt my heart even worse.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
If you called the penalty on him, though, did you
call him len? Or did you like you never called
the kid hockey football?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
He's playing basketball? You could what did I say, pep penalty?

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well that?

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Oh I'm sorry? A foul, A foul, A foul? Would
you call him a len? You know that you got
him there?

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Nope, nope, But but you know the only time you
would use the kid's name is after the game. One
of my most difficult challenges was not coaching kids during
the game and giving them an unfair advantage by giving
him a tip or tell him something, because they'd always
want to come by and go, well, why was not
a blocking file? I have my foot set, you know,
and it's like you got to ask the coach about that.

(15:10):
I'm wrapping the game right now.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I will say this, I'm glad that you said that.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Jay was talking about how sometimes he'll do that, like
if a team is just really getting their ass beat
and like the coach is yelling and screaming.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
He'll lean over to the kid and go, hey, you.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Know what, just swing at everything, Just swing the back
or you know, like any just a shoot the ball.
I know the coach is yelling at you, don't shoot
shoot the ball. Take a shot, Take a shot, like
he's trying to encourage the kid, he said, But he
has to do it real quietly.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Because then the coaches, what are you doing? What are
you doing?

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Hell, yeah, that's a boundary you wouldn't want to cross
very often.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
But you can't.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
You can't have a conversation with a coach post game.
You know. I find that one of the things that
you used to do when you were in what I
call real youth ball. Now we're talking about whether it's
soccer or basketball, and we're talking about little kid, you know,
in that six to twelve year old range, right which
I do iset out of a clinic for the coaches
and parents where you taught them the rules. And if

(16:15):
they didn't come to that clinic, their kid didn't play.
That was the deal. You had to know the rules.
I can't have you yelling and screaming from the sidelines
at your kid or at me, and you don't even
know the rule. You don't understand the rule, and you
think it's something else.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Now listen, I know the rules, but you know you're
gonna hear me.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
How can you see that wrong blue line on the
other side of the ice.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, all right, dude, I appreciate it, Thank you,
thank you, sir.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Love it now.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
As a street monitor, yeah, and I feel bad And
I told you I maintain neutrality. But I also it's
a slightly confusing part of the course because it's a
back and forth, so they have to follow a different
line but then rejoin an old mile marker and then

(17:08):
veer off again. Because I am monitoring the streets, I
don't correct the kids. Other parents will motion like not you.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
You'll have to ask your coach about that. I'm reughing.
Let me grab line seven. Hi, Elliott in the morning. Hey,
who's this?

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Hey this Evince? I do ice and I do in line.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Hey where do you? Where are you all the way
to adult? Oh? Do you really? Wait?

Speaker 3 (17:49):
So you're doing I don't know anything about inline, but
you're doing ice hockey from youth all the way to adult. Yes,
see that ice hockey different cause I mean you could
still hear the parents, don't get me wrong, but at
least there's glass there. Coaches, you could still hear. Damn it,

(18:10):
you're cutting out hold on by Just keep driving, Just
keep driving. I'll get back to you. Let me go
to line one.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Hi Elliet in the morning. Hey, good morning, and Gary,
Hey Gary, how are you, sir?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Doing good?

Speaker 8 (18:24):
Referee as soccer not so much youth anymore, but anywhere
up to adults, semi professional professional. But these parents are
the worst. They got to relax. It's not that serious.
And I get it, I get it, you know, it's
it's an emotional game. All common sense kind of goes
out the door. But sometimes when I go watch my

(18:45):
nephews and I'm kind of there observing, and I don't
say anything to the reps because I know I get it.
But you know, they people got to really chill out
because they some of these youth reps like they can
really put them off. You know, they have a bad
day or a bad a bad game, and you got
these parents just heckling them, right, they won't come back,

(19:05):
they won't recertify, and then you lost a perfectly good
referee there. I mean, and a lot of these people
are just grassrooms. They're just trying to make an extra
penny or two weekend job. It's not that series for them.
But as you get to like the professional level, like
of course, heckling and what do you want?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Hey, so let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
You said that you do soccer at the at the
like youth all the way up to do you do professional?

Speaker 8 (19:31):
I have here and there, yes, and you know, I'm
still aspiring to but it's stuck the same way as
the players. Not everyone makes it. Same thing for the referees,
so yeah, yes they're pretty active.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah wait so were you doing like Spirit United games? Uh?

Speaker 8 (19:47):
Sometimes it'll be there like a like a fourth official
aspiring to get there. And and my discipline is a
referee being in the middle running around. That makes me happy.
But yeah every down and then.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, dude, that would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Hey, when you're when you're when if you're an official
for a professional sport, do you call the players by
their first name or last name?

Speaker 8 (20:08):
You can? It helps kind of manage the game, manage
the players if you know them that well. But it
could also bite you, I think if you get too
personal attempt because obviously you'll kind of give the impression
of favoritism, right, and you can get a little bit of,
you know, from the other side, kind of that that
perception of unfairness to getting too comfortable.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
But yeah, of.

Speaker 8 (20:29):
Course, I think if you learn their names in the game,
it helps a lot. It kind of helps bring them
down because at that level, they're really heated, they're really hot,
and all you're trying to do is manage it, right.
It's not so much like do you know the rules
or not? No, it's managing the game at that point.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
So I gotcha. Oh that's pretty good. I like that.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I like that, all right, very good, Thank you sir,
Thank you, my friend.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
IM forget having to list off people you coached when
they were young or reff when they were young. He's
right along.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, let's see messy. Yeah no, I mean that's where
you start. Where am I going? Line two? Hi Elliot
in the morning, Hey.

Speaker 7 (21:12):
Good morning, la Nick from Frederick. I officiate football and
to your point, the younger the players are the worst,
the parents are.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
I got a quick good story for you.

Speaker 7 (21:22):
I had seven year olds.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
I don't know why they were pat at seven years old.

Speaker 7 (21:25):
In football. They can't even line up. They don't know
what they're doing. But these kids like trying to shed
a block, He's just punching the guy in front of him,
and his dade was like, god's where he gets kicked
out eight am in the morning. And in the same game,
another kid fell asleep in his pads. I'm like, chill out, man.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Now, let me ask you this. Have you have you
reffed anybody that went on to make it.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
No, I'm only in my fifth season, so they still
be in college. I'm d one college players in high school, yeah,
like varsity high school, but uh, but nobody that's like
out there like I didn't like, uh, but I won't
say when it comes to knowing people's names, Like yesterday,
I reffed my old coaches team that I played for

(22:19):
on his sideline and all day I'm just saying coach, coach,
like you're not calling them by first name.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
All right, very good, very good. I appreciate it, Thank you, sir,
thank you. Hey, let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Did you get into Oh damn it, I lost you,
like it would be fun to ref.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's what you gather from all this.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
I didn't finish my sentence at a high level, like
it would not be fun to ref like I don't
even like the guys who ref are like old man
hockey games.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
That's the high level you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
No, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I was just saying like they're cool, Like they're cool,
like because they know, like weren't everybody's getting up on
Monday and going to work like there are sometimes where
like some people will be jackasses and then they got
to deal with that. But for the most part, everybody's
fine and whatever. You know, and listen, I get it.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
It's midnight. They don't want to call icing. They want
to go home just as much as the losing team does.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
No, but like officiat, officiating would be would be miserable.
You're getting yelled at, you're getting screened at, you don't
know what you're doing, you're blind, go after mother like
all of that, and that's that's that's if you're lucky
and you're not being assaulted.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
But being a professional would be awesome.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
A professional if yeah, you know, they get it too.
The are you saying that the trade off is worth it?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
The trade off is worth it.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
The trade off is worth it because you're calling everyone
by their names.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
The well not only that, but yeah, but I mean
like you can, like during TV timeouts, you can kive
it's a little bit and like you know, like hey,
like if it's a milestone, it was probably a little
bit of that. But yeah, like don't you think that
would be awesome? Like baseball, Like you're managing baseball, managing.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Reffing, reffing. Excuse me, you're reffing baseball.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Right, And let's say let's say let's say you've got
first right, dumper hits a second home run, he comes by,
you know what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Hand out, give me a little high five, Give me
a little high five. Yes, if I.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Were if I were a hes not going to call
that out NHL official.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, and listen, I get it. I've I've I've.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Seen players yell at the official just get over and go. Hey, listen, Tommy,
calm it down. Comment down, I get it.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
You're hot. Comment down.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
I think it's weird when the first baseman's jokey with
the opponent.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Oh, I hate that.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
I don't like that to see the umpire yeah because
they dumper here you go.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, No, I don't like.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Like and I'm with you some guy ropes a single
and then like he's on first, and like the two
of them are talking like you know, like but by
the way, sometimes it bothers me the kids the I
hate that it bothers me. On face offs in the NHL.
I don't mind if two guys are like leaning on
each other and you could read their lips were.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Like f yourself. But I don't like when it's like,
you know, hey, how are you. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Save that I know you were on their team last year.
Save that for later. I don't want any part of that.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
And also, why is this a ref trying to chat
with us as well?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Do you know him the no no?

Speaker 3 (25:22):
But like like for example, you were on my fantasy
team last year.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh, I would definitely tell him the no no.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
But like Ryan Leonard right kid, yes, Like if I
were if I were ref, and I saw it, be like, hey,
welcome to the show, kid, like you know, like that's good,
Well you can do that.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Why not like the one caller said any no, that's.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
That's like it like travel Hey Cindy.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
No, not the first caller, oh, even the one who's
doing MLS andl like if if there's any sense that
you then are are with the calls benefiting the.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Team, Well I'm not benefiting. You're welcome to the lead.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
You could have a problem on your hands. Sorry. Gary,