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May 2, 2025 • 16 mins
Linkin Park just started their North American tour and Mike Shinoda took some time to talk about everything with me!

We discussed how Linkin Shark was out in Austin and maybe needs to be at every show, multiple generations of fans are coming out to the concerts now and sharing that experience together, how easy of a fit it was for Emily and Colin to join the band (and now have Alex playing guitar on tour), everybody felt right together during the first few times they jammed, putting out more music with the deluxe edition of 'From Zero' in a few weeks and his hands-on experience with the new Nintendo Switch 2!

Big thanks to Mike Shinoda for a great chat and if you want to see them out on the new tour, grab your tickets at LinkinPark.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mike Shanoda, Lincoln Park Man, it is good to see
you guys back in business.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
My friend.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I've been uh, I've been loving the new music and
you got the North American tour going on. So man,
you guys have to be just as excited as all
of us fans for everything happening.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Ah, I would I would venture to say more excited.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
But I'm glad you guys are. I'm glad you guys
are with us.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm you know, happy to be coming back and we're
excited to play some good shows.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
And Mike, the first thing I wanted to really ask
you about, uh, you started the tour the other night,
the new North American Tour in Austin with Lincoln Shark
out in the audience. Dude, he was the star of
the show off stage. I just I watched those videos
of him jumping around and then in the mosh bit.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Fantastic.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, I was a it was a first seeing somebody
in a it was a shark costume. Then he had
like he had like rigged some led lights to it,
so he like literally glowed blue in the car in
the crowd.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
It's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I hope so that you guys, you know you're coming
to Baltimore soon and Philly and LA and New York
and Toronto. I hope someone in every city picks up
the mantra and we see Lincoln Shark all over.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Well, we saw in the first show.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
It was in Austin and we did a pop up
there with a local well god it was so it
was a local taco spot and they did we collaborated
with them and did a Lincoln Pork taco.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
It was a Carneita's taco.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
So we had Lincoln Pork at the first show and
we had Lincoln Shark on the second show. I don't
think we can keep up the puns, but it's been
a good start.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
But there could be animal tie ins.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Then we could have like Lincoln Crab at the Baltimore show.
We could get someone in a cheese steak costume for
the Philly show.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You know, there's stuff that could be done.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, they're having a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's it's really great because I was just thinking, like
I was talking to some other folks on the crew
and stuff, and that you know, we're seeing a lot
of young people at the shows. We're seeing a lot
of a ton of people that have never seen the
band before and there this is their first time. And
some of those some of those folks you know, have
been listening to the band for you know, over a

(02:11):
decade or a couple of decades even so, and they
just you know, haven't happened to come to a show.
So this is a really I mean, it's a meaningful tour.
We're really proud of the new music. I mean, Emily
is doing an incredible job with the vocals, and we're
we're really proud of her and excited to see you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, there was a lot that you just said in there, Mike,
So let me let me take one thing. The first
thing you said about generations, I remember seeing Green Day
about I don't know, five or six years ago, and
there were a couple generations of fans now, and I
that's the first time I really thought about that. For
Lincoln Park, you guys have been going strong for you know,
twenty five years in between there, that's a couple of

(02:51):
generations of fans. So yeah, you're gonna have different ages
and new people and old school folks like men.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
We've noticed that it's happened few times in our career
where you know, you see the fan who's brought their kid,
or their fan who's brought their younger brother, sister or
cousin or something like. That's we've noticed that over time,
and it's happening again.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
It's a really like.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I mean, you know, as an artist, like you dream
of that, right that you can have a meaningful like
place in somebody's like like memories or their their experience
with music, like over a long period of time. So yeah,
it's really it's really wonderful. I remember like a few
years ago, this is like probably twenty twenty, sorry twenty

(03:41):
I was gonna say twenty twenty seven, twenty seventeen or
twenty twenty fifteen or twenty seventeen, somewhere in that range.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
And we were playing.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
We're playing the show, and I see I look out
in the crowd and I see like kind of to
my left, there's like a there's a dad and his daughter.
He's standing on the floor. She's standing on the seat
because she's a little short, she's a little young, and
whenever we played one of the new songs, she would
jump up and down and like elbow him and like
tell him like.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
This is the one and then blah blah blah, like this.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Is my song, and then we'd play like one step
closer and then he'd wrap his arm around her and
sing along and say like ah, you know and you
and you can see them and just having this really
like special bonding moment and they it was just the
two of them. They didn't come with anybody else, I
don't think, so, you know, really some really special moments.
I mean, we try and make I think the goal
of any concert that we play is to try and

(04:31):
like you know, create those like core memories for people,
give them something that's not just a concert, it's something
something bigger and maybe more meaningful.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Absolutely, make it, make it an experience that I'm going
to talk about and remember, not just from the couple
videos I posted on Instagram, but I'm going to remember
this one forever. And when you talk about families and
everyone coming, absolutely and also, Mike you said about Emily
joining the band, well also you know, with Colin playing
drums now, with Alex joining you on guitar, I mean,
even though it's Lincoln Park, that's a whole new lineup

(05:02):
for you. And I'm sure, like you know, with the
launch of the new chapter for Lincoln Park. You had
to learn a lot too, as did as did Phoenix.
You know, you guys are getting used to each other
and this new dynamic.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, I mean to fill people in who maybe have
not been following at all. So so Chester passed away
in twenty seventeen. A few years after that. I mean
it was more of a slow thing. Our drummer Rob
informed us that he's he didn't want to keep doing it.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
And I mean we love Rob.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
We grew up with Rob, like we're you know, I
think that's, like said, different points in your life, you
just make a decision for like the you know, you've
moved into a new chapter of your life, and that's
what that is. So there was no like, at least
on you know, on on our side, there was no
animosity or anything. I don't think there was on his
side either, I don't, you know, I don't want to

(05:59):
speak for him. The thing about Brad that's really interesting
to a lot of fans is that he's he is
our guitarist, like he is in our band and touring
just wasn't we realized, like as we were re inventing
the band, like we were, you know, we.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Met Emily, we met Colin.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
They became a part of the like everyday process of
writing music because we loved hanging out with them, We
love their ideas. They're very, very talented. And it was
some point, you know, like maybe even as late as
twenty twenty four, had a conversation with Brad where we
finally came to like a realization that the thing that

(06:41):
would help his integration or the place that he stands
with the band he he and we just realized that
the touring is really hard on him, like he just
you know, psychologically mentally, he doesn't It does weird things
to his brain that he does not like, and he
acts differently on.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Tour than he does at home.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
And he's like the smartest, sweetest guy, right, and so
we don't ever want him to not be the smartest,
sweetest guy. And and finding a touring guitarist who could
like play Brad's parts. We the way we went about
it is like basically just Brad took that over like
none of us even we barely even had to say.

(07:24):
We were like, dude, okay, you know, we want to
find we want some We want you to find somebody
who's your representative on the road, and is an extension
of you to the fans, is in his extension of
you to the band that you know, So it was
it was an interesting process, complicated I think for him,
but he h yeah, he's you know, just to be

(07:46):
to be clear about it. Yeah, there's there's three folks
on stage who are new to fans.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
I mean, and there's probably the other ways you could
say that, but the show.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
One thing that I really enjoy about it is that
the new these new younger members bring their energy to
it and oh my god, it's like the thing that
makes it Lincoln Park is still very much there. Like
anyone who's coming to the show will tell this, tell
you this, like you can go look at people's comments online,

(08:20):
you can talk to somebody that we play you know,
a ton of the old most I mean mostly old stuff.
I'd say like two thirds maybe, And yeah, the band
is you know, it's still very much a Lincoln Park show,
but I think it's elevated in terms of you know,
it's twenty twenty five. We've built a new thing and

(08:43):
it's got a lot of energy because these you know,
we've got an adjusted lineup and these folks are killing it.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, like we said before My Generations. That's what it's
all about now with Lincoln Park.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, we're really I mean, I mean, I don't want
to put words in Emily's mouth either, but she she
has been. She's just she's a really talented person. Like
I mean, when that's like a given.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Like we when.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I met her, the reason I wanted to, like, back
in twenty nineteen, I was doing like writing and production
sessions just to kind of like explore different things. And
like I didn't at that point in twenty nineteen, I
didn't think the band was going to be doing anything anymore.
So I was looking for sessions and meeting people, and

(09:36):
I met her, and you know the fact that she's
like yeah, I hate to be like, you know, exaggerate maybe,
but I don't actually think it's an exaggeration to say
she she might be one of the best vocalists of
our time. Like I think she's incredible, and she's like
I met her, heard her saying she's got such versatility,

(09:56):
she can do tons of different things with her voice.
She's really fun to work with the studio. But beyond
all of that, the most important thing is I was, like,
I just feel like we when we talk, it's very comfortable,
like you immediately ease into this, like, oh, I feel
like I've known this person for a long time, which
is super weird. And then I introduced her eventually to

(10:17):
the rest of the band and we got her in
there with Colin and everybody just gelled that day. I
mean that day, it was like, oh, it's like we
let all left feeling like that felt so natural.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
I felt so normal, man.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
That's it makes such a difference when you have everyone
become you know, one like that right off the bat too,
And that's a great sign for moving forward to Flincoln
Park and Mike, I know we only have a minute
or two here left. I wanted to tell everyone too,
not only is the tour going on now, but also
from zero the new deluxe Edition is coming, so we
get to hear more of your music in a couple

(10:56):
of weeks. That's on May sixteenth, and I'm guessing I
talked to Million Phoenix a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
They said that everyone has a ton of ideas.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I'm sure you guys are already thinking about stuff beyond
from zero two.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I mean, yeah, one thing at a time, though, I
feel like I know bands write music.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
That's where we're gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
The the deluxe edition of the album is I mean,
we're not one to like, we're not a band to
like just chuck random songs out there just to fill
a quota or get people like to the concert.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
It's not like marketing. It's like, no, we love these songs. Yeah.
We put out two of the three, and.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
The first of them, I mean up Up from the
Bottom is the new single that's been. The reception on
that has been insane, like really really happy with that.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
I think the fans it's.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Funny because when we play it, it almost feels like
it almost feels like, oh yeah, of course that's a
Lincoln Park song. Like sometimes you write, we write some
thing and we'll be like, wow, this this song is
very different because it's just got these different you know,
it's different notes, different sounds or whatever.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
And something about Up from the Bottom.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
I think they're one of the reasons why the fans
love it so much is that it it is like
guitar and drums and piano and our vocals, and it's
like the sounds.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
And the notes we're playing are.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Just very signature and maybe you know, sometimes it's nice to. Like,
I feel like it's nice to give fans that that
thing that they love.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
You know, it just feels like it belongs with everything
else with Lincoln Park. Yeah, Mike, the last thing I'm
gonna ask you, man before I let you go, I
don't know. I'll let you pick Humans and Gorillas or
Nintendo Switch To? Which one would you like to talk about?

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Well?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
I definitely have more expertise on the switch To part
because I actually saw it and played it.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Well, all right, that because there's a question going around
do you think one hundred humans could beat up one gorilla?

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah, I'm aware of the hundred. I don't. I don't
have any opinion about that because I don't know anything
about that. It's also very hard.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Then let's talk about the switch To for just a minute.
You got hands on with it, man, it's coming out
in June. How'd you like it?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah? Man, I'll tell you, Like, I don't you know, Nintendo.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Doesn't like pay me, I don't. I can say whatever
I want about Nintendo. They they did invite invite a
lot of people in Lanta and La like they had
like this pop up event where just like they're there.
It's kind of like people that have publicly expressed some
affinity for Nintendo, and they have this like list of

(13:45):
the ips that they'll invite.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
And it's not it's not a small number of people though.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
It's like they rented out this big like auditorium and
they built it out with all of these different stations
where you could play play the new games and play
the play the hold the console and stuff.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
And here's what I'll tell you about it.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
It's more robust than the switch one, Like it's it's heavier,
it's more it feels like it's made of more metal, Okay,
And the little controls that remove on the sides on
the old one, you really felt like if you just tried,
you just break them right off. And then the new
one that you don't feel that way as much, like

(14:23):
you feel like if you do that, they'll pop out.
But they're they're magnet based, so that actually feels great.
And I'd say my favorite games that we played. Actually,
this is a funny one for your listeners. This is
like I haven't gotten to talk about this, oh, but I'm.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Forgetting the name of it. Well, anyway, the new Mario
card game is great.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
There's an open world aspect where you can could just
like drive around and like go wherever.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
And that's fun. It's not a race.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's just a wander kind of thing that's actually more
fun than you think. The New Metro game I liked
a lot, but there is a so the paddles, the
new the new controllers.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Besides holding them in your hands and moving them.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Around like a Wii or something, you also can like
turn them sideways and roll them this way, like on
your knees or on a table or in the air
and oh, actually not in the air, just on your knees.
Are to say, they have to be touching something. They
have a game that's basically wheelchair basketball.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I saw that, the Rocket League Basketball.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yes, dude, I forget the name of it. It's got
to I'll be honest, as a terrible name. Like whatever
the name is, it's the most forgettable terrible names having
nothing to do with wheelchair basketball. But I see it
and I go, that's wheelchair basketball, and people are gonna
make fun of it. It's gonna be weird. Like I
know that's gonna get reactions online.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
When I played that game, that game was one of
the funnest things they had out at that at that
little event, like it is way more fun than you think,
and it's partially because those new controllers do that thing.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
It's great.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Like you definitely if you're gonna check out the switch
to look for that game.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I can't wait, man, a couple months for that.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Well.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
We we got Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Park Touring, we got Deluxe from zero, we got the
Switch to, we got all kinds of stuff on the horizon.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Mike.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Let me tell everyone, man, you guys are going all
over for this first round in Baltimore, the Carolinas Sonic
Temple Festival, Welcome to Rockville. Then after Europe back this
summer for Philly, New York, LA, Phoenix. Like, you guys
are gonna be going all over, So everyone get tickets,
go see Lincoln Park, go have a great time at
Lincoln Park dot com. Mike really appreciate the time man,

(16:26):
and can't wait to see you awesome.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Thank you, Mike,
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