Really Love (REVIEW): Love Also Requires Timing | Ep282

This week on Black on Black Cinema, the crew returns to discuss the 2020 film, "Really Love." Set in contemporary Washington D.C., a rising black painter strives to break into the competitive art world, while balancing a bittersweet romance he never expected. The film is directed by Angel Kristi Williams and starring Kofi Siriboe, Yootha Wong-Loi-Sing, and Uzo Aduba. The conversation centers on not just romantic love but why timing and maturity are needed for a relationship to sustain long term.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I know I did lesson about the villain too, right, Now,
go find the last down before me change.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
And let's wrap the chase on it.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello, and welcome to a brand new episode of Black
and Black Cinema. I'm your host, Jay. I'm here with
my co host Micah.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Hey, Terrence, what's up? Antir?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
All right, guys, we are back. This is episode two
eighty two. Really Love. Uh, this is the twenty twenty
film I'll read the log line here. Set in contemporary Washington, DC,
a rising black painter strives to break into the competitive
art world while balancing a bittersweet romance he never expected.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
This is starring Kofi serebo Utha, Wong Low Sing, and
Uzzo Aduba. Oh and Michael Ely is in this movie.
Just sort of almost feels randomly, but yes, he's also
in it. Oh yes, Blair Underwood. Everybody in this movie
is really good looking. That that's my that's my first
take of this movie.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
Like they just saw Tristan Wilde, Susan Douglas.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Look, look her friend. Yeah, her friend is insanely attractive.
I'm like, like, what's her story?

Speaker 6 (01:24):
You never saw billions? That's that's that's where I reconnized
from because she's that stunning.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I've only seen the first season of Billions, unfortunately. Yeah, everybody,
everybody in this is is really great. So I'll give
my thoughts on it. Look, the the movie is a
bit slow. I think in the beginning, like the two characters,
it feels like some of the conversations feel like a

(01:49):
little bit of like pulling teeth, right, because everybody's trying
to be like really fucking cool. It reminds me that
ray of that Ray movie, right, like what was it
her and the photograph? Yeah, photograph, Like everybody's trying to
be really and so like it is is a bit

(02:11):
pulling teeth in some of the conversations. But then once
like the story kind of kicks in of like what
the issues are like between them, or what the issues
are like in his career and stuff like that. That's where
I feel like the movie kind of catches its feet.
But I enjoyed the movie, but it is, Yeah, it's
a little slow, like I'll happily say that, but I

(02:33):
but I like I like the atmosphere of the movie.
I like the music of the movie definitely, and I
thought the cinematography was really good. So but it does
take a bit to get moving. That I will happily admit.
So I'll kick it over to Terrence because he clearly
has some things to say, so go ahead. Also, you
hate this.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Black, Yeah, well now I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
I didn't know how to feel when I finish the movie.
As I was watching, it's an hour and thirty two minutes,
all right, felt way longer it does, and I was like, yo,
come on, speed it. I just finished watching it maybe
two hours ago. Yeah, well, like you said, like when
you said the dialogue, I'm like, my niggas, spit your
fucking lines up.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Please, you're pissing me off, like you're really pissed.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
One line, there was one line. I had to take
a break. I was like, all right, this shit don't
make sense.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
I'm like, yo, this dialogue it's just like you said,
like everybody's being too cool for school. And I was
about to be like, yo, this movie is really big,
getting me mad, you know, really upsetting, But then it
kind of hit it stride cliche. Everybody's beautiful. There's one
line in this movie that make basically sums this movie up.

(03:47):
He says it like fifty minutes into the movie, I
can't hear it was. It was him and her talking
and they were laying down in the bed and she's
talking about his work and he says something like she
asked him, like, what, what's what's going on? He said,
I want my work to I just want to I
just want to work and not not for it to
mean something. I just want black people to just I

(04:08):
don't want to have to explain my work. I just
wanted to be like black people just being black and
not have to make a statement. That's what this movie is.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, no, that's fair.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
And I'm like I was like, okay, I see what
this movie is. It was fine, very boring. Honestly, I
was bored.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
It was just a bunch of black people living their life,
just being just being pretty like all right whatever, it
looked good. I don't like Go Go music. I don't
like jazz honestly, so I didn't like the soundtrack. You know,
I'm not old enough. No, I'm a year younger than you, niggas.

Speaker 7 (04:43):
Youah, niggas, next year you'll appreciate jazz.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I feel like it's probably a little too late, but noah,
I look I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I was just kind of indifferent. It was fine, that's fair.
I think it gave me like medicine, a melancholy bob.
Remember that movie.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I remember that movie.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
No, see, I think that is a deeply underrated movie.
I would love it.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
I didn't like it.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, I know you guys, but yeah I didn't. But
I didn't like I didn't hate this movie. I just
kind of like it's a movie.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Okay, that's fair pretty much.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I'm gonna wait to go to t r lash since
you suggested, so, uh, defend it at your thoughts.

Speaker 7 (05:31):
Yeah, I kind of echo a lot of what Terrence
is saying. I have a question for you guys. How
do you know when a painting is finished?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Line? I don't know you're painting. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
No, it wasn't that. It wasn't that. It was his response, No,
I know what it was. What does that mean? But
the penis goes into the all right, I.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Bust a nut. That's no finished. Like, what kind of
response was that that was? Let me this conversation he
said someone and then they had some and then what

(06:19):
and then and then and then you know when he
said that when he said.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
That was all right, what I'm like, work on He
was like, all right, so so this is so this
is lady porn, right, this is lady that, this is
what this is.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
This is lady lady. Well it's a different type of
lady before that.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
That it's just romance.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
All right, Yo, all right, it's.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
What I will to credit this movie. I think that
line is the equivalent to uh in the photograph where
it's like, oh, like, what's gonna happen whe and he
and he says like key Stanfields, like we're just gonna
blame it on the storm.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Was like all right, nigga, we got it, like who
we got?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
All right?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Cool, You're so fucking we got it.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (07:05):
Look this uh, this movie was it took us a
long act. One felt like a long walk man, right
and it was. But it was like a relationship, right.
This movie plays out like like a like a like
a relationship.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
You meet and you.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
Do all the dumb ship that you do when you're
getting to know somebody, and you say all this corn
ball ship because like you still your representative is still there, right,
it's not the real you yet, right, and you say
whatever you lick your lips to say whatever, cool ship
sounds cool in your head to try and and drop
them drawers, right, and then y'all and and then you

(07:50):
and and then you start getting to know each other
a little more, and you know, you move in and
the real you starts to slowly creep out. Right, you
met parents, and and and then and right and then
like towards that, and then towards the end of the movie,

(08:11):
you know, you decide, hey, you know you've gone through
your little adversity or whatever, because this is a romantic comedy.
And uh, and then you decide, you know, well, you're right,
a romantic drama, a romantic drama.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
You're right, it's a romantic drama.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
And yeah, it just wasn't.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
It just wasn't.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
Look, all these movies are chasing If beal Street can talk,
if talk, that is that that is a wonderful movie.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
And and I like that movie way better than this.
I like Sylvie's Love way better than this.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, that was gone. I like this.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
This is kind of on par with the photograph and that.
It's fine, but I never need to see it again. Right, Like,
my wife watched this unbeknownst to me. She watched this
a long time ago, and uh, I didn't even know right,
And and I asked her, say, hey, this is the movie.
Do you want to watch it? She's like, no, I've

(09:15):
seen it, like Shame won watch Shame, won't watch it again.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
An you will watch it with you?

Speaker 7 (09:20):
Like right, a romantic movie, Shame won't watch with me.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But that's fine. Look it's bitter at all, It's fine.
What no, trust me, It's fine.

Speaker 7 (09:36):
The movie does look very good. I I really do
appreciate the fact that cinematographers kind of get lighting that,
you know, you like black people with soft light a
lot like hard harsh light. And everybody looks really really

(09:56):
good in it. Some of the performances. Look, the performances
are fine. It's just that some of the lines are terrible, right,
like that, how do you know a paint painting is done?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Line? The the little message that they tried to throw in
there about the housing, Yeah, I was like right, I
was like, wow, this is very this was very like
Tyler Perry ish right, like.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
It was just okay, I forgot about that too, right,
smash cut the next scene.

Speaker 7 (10:28):
Right, and it's just like nothing else came of that,
Like nothing came of it right like, Okay, I mean
that's fine, but obvious message is obvious, right, Like it
was very I don't mind stuff like that. But you
can't like take your hand and fist it right in.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
The in the movie, you know what I mean, that's
what you did, right There was definitely a different way.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Of hand and.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
You take your hand and you fist it right up
in there, and and then you know, some time you
have trouble pulling.

Speaker 7 (11:05):
The movie is fine. The movie's fine. I don't hate it.
I don't love it. If you're looking for a reason
to kind of you know, if you're still in the
early phase of a relationship and you want to, you know,
sit down and watch a romantic movie, it's good. I

(11:25):
do like the ending.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I I do like the characters, particularly.

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Isaiah Maxwell, and that you know, this dude is not
he's not a good dude. And and the movie subverse
your expectations where it's like, you know, in the beginning,
like he's super perfect, like to the point where he's
saying these corny ass lines and he's getting any and

(11:54):
he's and and he's saying everything and doing everything, and
then slowly he's still a nice. He's still a good guy.
But I like that the relationship. Both of these people
are good people. They're just not good for each other
in my opinion. And I think the ending is a
little ambiguous in that like will she won't she write?

(12:21):
Hopefully she doesn't for her own sake.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
But yeah, I appreciate I appreciate that character as.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
A flawed character. That's that's probably the best thing I
could say. Uh in this movie's face, all right, tr defendant?

Speaker 6 (12:42):
No what Actually the question that I had at the
end was so what happened to Amad?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I know, I'm like, well, you ain't got nothing for
hit Chicago ass. Get out of him.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
That I enjoyed it? Yeah, you know, whatever he was,
he was, look, he knew.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Can I give y'all a minute because this feels on
something I'm here.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
All I'm gonna say is if someone is looking at
your significant other and they're like, it's really good to
see you.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I just you look very you look really good. It's
been a while. How do you know each other? We're
old friends and you are you looking at her like that?

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Come on, now, I just stuff right in between them. Oh, we're.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
All right, we don't need to say the word word anymore,
because that kept.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I enjoyed it. I thought it was.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Did you enjoy the movie?

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Let me, let me get let me get this out
the way. Kofe Cyril is a beautiful, beautiful man.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
And and he should be in more He should be
in more things or actually, or maybe I should say
I would be more dark skinned, uh, men like him,
be leading romantic men like And I didn't think his
performance was was bad at all.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
And and I thought that he and I don't know,
I don't know her name, but the leading actress.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I thought the chemistry was okay.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
I thought in the beginning, you know, like you kind
of felt a little bit, but then like as the
movie went on, I was able to buy into their
relationship a bit.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I didn't. I don't think the ending was that ambiguous.
I kind of felt like they were getting together at
the end. I mean, but also with that kind of painting,
I would hope.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
That you're gonna reveal that and then try to lock
me down because basically.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
My whole naked on this my life.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
I mean, but he but but but he tried already,
right she she she he failed to test.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, so okay, that's the other thing, right, Like, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
It was very end where I'm like, you could have
just gave him like five minutes. Yeah, came up to
him at the end. I'm like, yo, give me a minute,
like you clearly see me talking to somebody, and he
just was like, I'll be back in a second. I
get it, he's a painter and whatever, but like, if
you're really trying to get back with your like.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, yeah, that was a really weird go ahead.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
To I just think that, Like, I think the movie's
messaging around love, especially like young adult love, not necessarily
like because I don't think they were in their early twenties.
He seemed more like mid to late twenties to me,
and at a pivotal moment in your life when you
have I think both characters had very valeriess to actually

(16:04):
not be together because I felt like it was a
matter of timing and what do you do if you
meet the right person and it's just not the right time,
because you you know, you have one person who's grown
up a certain way and and has all these big
has has all this potential to be a high power lawyer,
and then you have someone who's struggling now I didn't

(16:25):
get the sense that the Isaiah character was struggling because
he grew up poor, like his family didn't seem that way.
It just seemed like he was just out on his
own to it. But it didn't seem like like he
was just like complete destitute. Yeah, he's you know South

(16:47):
even partly even Southeast DC too right, And and the
relationship and its issues felt very real to me, where
if if this had ended with them not being together,
I would have been completely fond with that because I'm like,
this makes sense. I don't think all romantic stories, even
if you do love the couple, they think that even

(17:08):
if that relationship feels real, it doesn't mean that they
end up with each other, because I think that's also
a lot of people's experiences, especially if you're talking about
finding love at that at that point point in your life.
I think also, like you know, the movie is also
about like.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Like communication and not.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
A big over.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
Like communicating do you want someone to stay? Like do
you want to ask someone to put to put off
their dreams? But would you put off your dreams?

Speaker 3 (17:41):
I feel like.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
If I'm h what's her name's mom, I will probably
would have had the same advice as her mom did.
And I think and I think, like the mom telling
her story about how she was in a similar situation,
I would have been okay with that. Like for those characters. Overall,
I think it's a kind of movie that you, you know,

(18:02):
if you have like a a slow Saturday, if you
or if it's a Friday night, you just want like
something easy going to watch and relatively peace for to watch.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I think this is it.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
Like this is a to me, this is a red
wine and popcorn top of type of movie.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I agree what scan, yes.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Wine you can have.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
If you watched this.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
If you if you like this movie, you probably do
tell men to earn you.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
You know, earned me that.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
I mean that that should have been on the back
of the DVD box.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Earned me.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
Cool, it's me but you know, like I said, it was,
it was fine, Like I agree with like how they
were shot.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
I thought they all shot beautifully.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
And the girl who plays a friend, oh my god,
a real like Barbide. I kept looking at her the
whole time every time she was on screen. I just
kept looking at her. I was like, I was like,
the other actress is also very beautiful, but like I'm
like this girl didn't.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Want the lead to this movie either, or.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
What I've been too distracting because we would have been like, dude,
what are you doing? Why don't you following her to Chicago?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
But yeah, I can't remember what.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Picture right now.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Yeah, clearly there are some lines I don't remember for
this movie because there because it was a little slow
at point at some points and I was just like,
all right, well, I'll look up when I need to.
But then like I had to keep rewinding because there
were a lot of montages where I was like, oh, okay,
this is clearly like, oh, this is cute. They're walking
and now they're running, and and they're fitting each other crabs,
which picking crabs is really overrated.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
So I guess if you're willing to do that with someone,
you must really.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Love that love. That's love, that's like that, that's merely.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
So.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
And this movie was just just super black. I don't
think we saw one Oh no, we did see a
white person.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah. I didn't like all that.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
I get out of here.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
The white faces, get the fuck out of here, please.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
By the way they live they live him terribly too,
like on purpose, like we're not changing the cameras. Get
out of here.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
I think looks as this is probably a movie that
probably would have resonated with me more probably like eight
ten years ago. I think, I think a little. I
think now, like when I'm watching this, like everything kind
of seems so simple to me now that I'm a
little older and have had to make some decisions in

(20:37):
my life regarding like my career and stuff like that.
So there were some parts so I was just like, girl,
this is obvious. Boy, this is obvious, like Golive your
Dreams of the Painter, like clearly about to get your
own show. You know you're going to Chicago, and girl,
you need to go to Chicago. Like that was me
like pretty much the whole time. But I get it.
I get it when you're in it. It's just, you know,

(20:59):
it feels like a big deal because it is a
big deal because you don't know if that if that
type of relationship or that kind of love is going
to come back again and then and then you know,
something else I was kind of hoping they were explore
is if, like what what if they did try to,
you know, make it work, like going from Chicago to DC.

(21:20):
It's not that far from from each other, but yeah,
and then I kind of would. And you know, one
more thing, I think I would have liked to see
how they've both evolved as people during that during that
year separation, because it's like some even even though it's
only a year, it's a year of like no contact,

(21:40):
but it's but it's such a transformative year for both
of them career wise, and if you're going to have
them come back together, I would have liked to see
them hash out the very real things that would be
keeping them apart. And I kind of feel like they
kind of skipped over that to get to the to
the what I think is as a happy ending. And
I think if you're going to go through the motions

(22:00):
of talking about, like if you're going to make just
like if you have this like crossroads decision and you
choose to you basically choose yourself when you come back together,
what does that actually look like? And they they didn't
do that, and I kind of wish he had, so.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Like, it's it's funny you thought that the ending was.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
You didn't you didn't think the ending was ambiguous.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I like, I actually really liked the ending because it
was I liked the idea and that's not something you
see in movies almost at all? Is that to your point?
Like that the ending does, like you know, leave you
with us, like did they not get together or not?
Because like that notion of just because you're in love

(22:45):
with a person, like that's enough. No, it isn't Like
timing does in fact matter a lot. I used to
believe in that, like the idea of like soulmates. I
don't anymore. That's ridiculous because timing, because timing is real,
like you know, like was it. Chris Rock has that
whole joke like, oh, you know, it could be different
that you could live in different countries, you can live

(23:06):
in different cities. He could be a black man, you
could be a black woman. It just doesn't work right,
Like sometimes it doesn't work right.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
That's his joke.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Number But like you don't you don't know because there
are sometimes extenuating circumstances, right, And like the whole you
made the point that that communication is such a huge,
uh like overarching kind of you know, narrative of the movie.
And that's true, and it sucks because there's such a

(23:34):
weird lack of communication when they're face to face in
the beginning, they're just they're just falling in love on
vibes and not like any sort of like actual dialogue.
In a lot of ways, they're like just walking into
being like and they're just like looking at each other.
It's like, Oh, it's nice out. Oh it's so nice,
you're so handsome.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
You're so good looking.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Right, so it's like, all right, say something like for
the love of God. But then there's then there's these
communication breaks downs which are very weird, like I'd have
taken I take the job in Chicago, Like, bro, lift
your head up from the sketch path for a second,
and can you feel how cold the room is as
she's staring a hole through your fucking head after you
said that? Who you know that? Just look up?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Bring something else?

Speaker 6 (24:17):
Like never like never making life changing, a relationship changing
decisions when you're angry, when you're feeling so or when
you're feeling like feeling this this strong emotion either.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Way, right, And like that, I was like, Oh, also.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Think about the context in which you're answering a question, right, Hey,
what obvious like stress, like like that's what it was, like, Hey,
what would you do? Take that jump? Like nigga, what
the fuck are you saying right now, like, but that's
the that's the thing though, right, Like he's so fun,

(24:55):
he's hyper focused into his own sho. But that's how
people ask how people act, right, Like I I am
very oblivious when I'm blind to certain things. That's why
I'm Like when I'm talking to my wife, it's like
because sometimes she does this, like let me see if

(25:16):
we in sync together? Right? I hate that and I
don't like it. I don't like it. But like, but
like when I but when I am when we are
in sync, she's really like yeah, like like that's right,
we were meant to be together because I was able
to finish his sentence, like all right, but I don't.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
But like that's the thing that that humans do, especially
when they are in love with someone. It's inexplicable because
love is inexplicable.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Right, Like, you don't.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
It's that's why all these dudes who are like who
try to get on women for not being logical or whatever, Like, yo,
if you're in a relationship with somebody, you love somebody,
love is illogical, bro, Like you can't just be you
don't love somebody if you if you don't, if you're
not that's why they call it crazy in love, right,

(26:12):
like no one's surfboard incorrectly. That's all.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
He does, isn't the one?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I don't know Beyonce's music, don't you say you use it?
You know?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
But but even and then like the that part where
he's where he's like I would I would have taken
that job.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
I don't even think he was thinking of it in
a way as to not be supportive. I think he's
I think he was thinking like, yeah, this is a
this is an opportunity for you.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
You should He's being hyper logical, like that's what he
was doing.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
That's what I'm saying. He's being hyper logical, but he's not.
But but in her mind, if he had that opportunity,
he would up and leave her.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's how she felt, right exactly, That's how.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
She felt, and he did. And then don't Sometimes dudes
don't get that right. Sometimes people don't get that right.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Like you have to. You have to.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
It's called empathy, right, like you have to put yourself
in someone else's position.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And he literally didn't look up when he said it,
Like he just didn't even look up.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
And in that and I think like in a conversation
like that. You you probably say, I will take take
this job and just let you know I still love you,
I still want to be with you. I'm saying this.
I think this is a good opportunity for you, and
I wouldn't want to hold you back. So but the
fact that he only just stopped that job, like, well,
make it work. Yeah, exactly, he was answering. He was

(27:47):
he was answering the question that was provided to him.
He was not answering the question with the context of
their relationship in mind, exactly, which is again, it's the
do I look fat his dress or do I look
fat in his shirt type of ship. You're like, yes,
well okay, but there's all this other ship that's surrounding that,
which is like your spouse's feelings and like not being

(28:09):
a dick and everything else. Like if you just answered
the question, but like, I think that looks terrible. I
was just answer, don't do that, Like that's that's bad.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Answer that question.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Don't ask the question. Don't ask you one.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
You don't ask that.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
You don't answer that question around.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Focus on the good qualities that that you know that
dress really does some does something.

Speaker 8 (28:32):
To you or something some make it feel beautiful and sexy, right,
but like he but he answered that that question as if,
like as if he's her parents, like the same way
her parents would have given her advice.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah. Yeah, let's get into the movie because there as
much as like there is such a lack of conversation
in the beginning, which we're gonna fucking speed run once again,
like we're gonna do a micro style.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Review of this.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
We're gonna speed run through that sort of that first
half and get to like this this situation, because that's
when it starts to kick out. I guess it's right
around when.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
Right, but it's like he's not.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's like it's like halfway through the second act of
the movie. Yeah, it's right around when he meets her parents.
Because when he meets her parents, he has a shift
in his personality of like I gotta work really hard
to make this show because I'm like I gotta make money.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
I gotta be successful.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Like they don't go back.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
In say when the conflict the movie.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
Literally I thought this movie wasn't going to have conflict
in I was like.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Is this yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, I was like, oh they just they just we
just having like Moody Uh, moody lit uh nice African American,
Uh jet black skin sex and like that's it. And
then the movie it's like, oh the sin what the
I just watched?

Speaker 4 (30:00):
She's very beautiful.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Okay, somebody says, yes, she is, all right, so I'm
gonna let me, uh, let me do my best Mike impression.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
They are at a they're in an art opening.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
They meet. He weirdly touches her necklace, which is completely
unacceptable to me. You can't do something, so he's my
daughter does like can I have this juice? You're drinking
it already. You didn't even ask for a mession.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
I don't like it, you know what, I because I
I low key hate man, But like when I saw that, I.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Was like, low key low god. Now what the I
like how you waited thirty minutes to drop that fucking
gym in the episode?

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Well, like I like I should say, I know my
viewstres men have changed, even good looking ones, because I
watched it.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
I was like, I don't like this. I was like
I don't like this at all.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
I was like this is unaccepted, Like the only reason
why it's acceptable because it's him, Like if it was any.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
For her, if it was if it was if it
was a way my hug aunt nigga, if he was ugly.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Coming up like his is like right here on her chest,
and I'm just like.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
No, I didn't like, that's doing some random DC nigga.
If I touch your jewelry, get out of here, get off. So, yeah,
they're at an art opening. I believe he has one.
He has a painting there, if I recall, yes, he does,
and he meets he meets a potential art dealer and

(31:52):
she's like, yeah, you know, here's my card, you know,
get back with me about actually, you know, possibly having
a solo show. Her name is Cheney, and so they
meet and nothing happens, right like they they're clearly into
each other. But again they don't really say a lot
of words. So by the time he talks to the

(32:14):
art dealer, she's gone.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
So that's their you know, their sort of meet cute,
like point five meet cute. Then they're at a Then
he's at like a bar or what have you, hanging
out with his friends and here she comes. She comes
in and like, her name is Stevie, by the way,

(32:37):
and so Stevie and Isaiah they meet for the first time,
like for real, right, and she's stunning, by the way,
shout out to casting. They don't do enough casting of
black women with very black features, right, Like she's got
a broad nose and everything. She does not look like
a color swapped white woman, which I appreciated.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
And her hair too.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, no, dude, she's She's a total knockout, right she
she absolutely is. Also again her friend, good lord, both
of them them. This club is is like the fucking
Xanta Do.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
As far as I'm concerned, good.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Everybody in the I don't care about the niggas fucked down,
But like all the women in I just assume these
guys are all.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Listening to go go in their headphones or whatever.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
So they they hit it off or whatever. I guess
they they are at the club all night. I guess right.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
They they come into the club because the next when
they left the club, it was like twelve o'clock in
the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Right, they got they got their club clothes on, Like
I was like, what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 4 (33:39):
So they go for a walk.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
He's very much dressed like whatever you think an artist
should dress, like, that's what he's dressed like whatever.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
That is in your mind?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Uh and a and like a scully that's not quite
all the way on his head. She's dressed like she
shouldn't be with him. That's all I can describe it as. Sorry,
but you find out she's in law school at Howard.
She's doing quite well. She's or she's me Georgetown and

(34:10):
she is she's also she is a Howard grad by
the way. And like they walk and they're just staring
at each other, not saying much of anything, and he's like, hey,
all right, see you later.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
She's like okay, and so she starts to.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Walk away, and he's like, hey, Stevie, you know maybe
if you have could you take a break and you know,
maybe go to dinner. And she's like okay, and then
he hands her his phone to put her number in.
I didn't know, Like, is that is that a young
people thing? Like handing your phone to somebody else?

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Now?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Fuck that? Just tell me, just tell it to.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Me, like, yeah, get a. I don't you know?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
People ask you your Instagram?

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Is that a thing?

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:55):
People?

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Mind?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I mean you change that's ridiculous?

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Is yeah, before you before you ever give something someone
the number?

Speaker 7 (35:03):
Yeah, I guess I created a Facebook. I created a
Facebook account specifically because I when I when me and
LaToya broke up, I created a Facebook account because I
was told that the first thing women do is they
check your social media to make sure you're not a
you know, fucking psycho.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
And I had to stop pictures.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
So you made us right, right?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
That does so right? But yeah, that's exactly you know
who also did Joe from the show You, who is
a literal serial killer with all these curated images of
me jogging and hanging out with.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Yeah, I mean now, but also now, like now, you
have to be careful when you give someone you if
they ask, because they may just be looking for flowers
because for their brain.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
That's another thing.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I'm still glad I'm married. I am over the moon
about it. That's insane to me. Niggas trying to scan
you for followers are I was trying to give it up, like, nah,
I'm just trying to get these ig numbers up, but
I don't care, so they so she gives him her
phone number smash cut. He's hanging out with his parents

(36:28):
after churches people do apparently, which is very weird to me.
But but his sister is kind of like kind a
bit of a jerk. It's like you're still selling sperm
for money. It was like, all right, okay, just piped down,
like good lord. His parents are like, hey, why don't

(36:49):
you uh you uh you apply for that job. He's like,
not an apply for a job. You know, I'm trying
to be an artist, dad. And his dad's like, don't
let me hear that you like me and broke. So
his dad don't really believe in uh more on that later,
because how did they know. Cut to Stevie and her friend.

(37:17):
They are at a at a cafe that her friend.
A lot of this movie is shot in Baltimore. This
place looks like a cafe called Dovecote, Baltimore. That's exactly
what it is, is it really, That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
That's so funny because I was like, that looks like, yeah,
all right, that's cool. Definitely Dovecote.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Uh it's over by the reservoir not too far from there.
That's a great place. This is a super super cool place.
So that's fucking hilarious. That was my first thought was
that that looked exactly but I just assumed it was
also his parents. His parents house is definitely in Baltimore.
That houses Yes, that is that is he Oh okay,

(38:04):
well that makes sense.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
So so the directors from the directors from Baltimore and
they did a they did an article on her in
Baltimore Magazine and they talked about, like, why so a
lot of the movies shot in Baltimore, but it's set
in d C.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Why is that?

Speaker 7 (38:22):
And she said that her writing partner, a lot of
this has pulled from her life, and she grew up
in d C. So she wanted to on her friend
by setting the story in d C.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
But a lot of it is, uh, is shot in
and around Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Coded is Baltimore coders.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Right, really fun like a lot like like the museum
stuff was shot at the Baltimore Museum of Art, and
there's he even went to my alma mater. So yeah,
and I was like, I was your wife total Yeah,
my wife could have yes, she could have taught.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
We were classmates, me and him. We're we're we're just
like this, very similar people. Both very good look yeah,
both very selfish people. Yeah, a lot of similar traits.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Not good.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
So they're they're sitting at this cafe, which, by the way,
if you haven't been to a Dovecoat, you should. Uh
it's black as fuck and it's greats So anyway, they're
sitting at this cafe, Stevie and her friend and uh,
Mecca I believe her name is, and she's like, look,
I don't know if I really want to continue with
law school to do what I want to do. And
Mecca's like, yeah, look, I got multiple degrees and I'm

(39:42):
out here serving people coffee like my parents. I'm my
parents worst nightmare. And so it's just kind of like,
you don't have to do what your parents say. You
do what makes you happy. Message right. Smash cut to
Isaiah talking to Yusef played Michael Eely, which is not
a name. Michael Eely looks like he would have in

(40:04):
any movie.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
He doesn't look like he does not look.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
At you at all. But but uh, but you stuff
is a is a popular black artist also in d C.
And he's trying to like show him the Ropes type
of ship and he's like, look, man, you gotta like
get out of your apartment. You gotta you know, separate
your workspace from your living space. That's how you're going
to get inspired to do this. Do this. Uh, this artwork,

(40:31):
so you can try to get yourself. Uh a solo show.
So they start dating. Everything is honky dory. Life is good.
He's feeding her crabs.

Speaker 9 (40:43):
Crabs that you eat a genital disease.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Baltimore has a lot of issues.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Okay, it has a lot.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Of So they were eating chicken wings. I'm assuming like
this is supposed to be d C. So what did
they have, like mumbo sauce. It was just like a
chicken box. I just filmed a lot of.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
It's mumbo sauce, but like it's coated. It's really just
a chicken box Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Just a chicken box.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
And now let's just move on from that. Okay, you
got it all right, put two and two together.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Worried about this?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
No, I was just putting out there to see if
you So, yeah, we get it.

Speaker 7 (41:32):
We get we get.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
So that I should have moved on when I had
the chance. I really should have.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Son't me. That's my fault.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
I was talking about a chicken box from from a
fucking corner store.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Now that's it.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
So at another show, we see Isaiah. He sees like
he the show that he has his his artwork in.
He sees one of his former classmates from Micah his
art school, and he's like, hey, like Marylynd Institute College
of Art for those of you who don't No, he's

(42:20):
not talking about me. No, not the school that is
doing a lot of not so great things anymore. Stop
bending to me like a bunch of bitches. Anyway, So
he meets his white former classmate who's got like two
solo shows in New York and some shit, and you know,
he's kind of like he feels a way about it
because he feels like, well, even the white guy was like,

(42:41):
you're way better than me, Like what the fuck? Like
you should be doing this, and you know, like every
black man who's met a mediocre white man, he goes yeah, okay,
and then in his head goes, yeah, I know that's
how much the world sucks. Like I'm not trying to
be an asshole. That white guy was the worst actor
in this movie. And it wasn't just like the lines,

(43:05):
it was the delivery. It just seemed out of place.
Well he's white. He was very out of place as
far as I'm just smash cut there fucking So that
was great. I think this is the how do you
know a painting's done. No, you are you way past that? Okay,
so this is look again, I'm on a speed run.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
She shows the poods a lot in this movie. Good
for you, good for us? Probably Yeah, She's like, I'm
from Rotterdam.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Take a look, like, okay, this is great. I didn't
even have to subscribe to your own fans. So life
is good. And then she's like, hey, why don't you
move in? And he was like, okay, because I'm kind
of broke, Like but you know, he's he's hesitat it,
but like not that there back of your next standing up,

(44:09):
you got you got it got you had an opinion
even I mean you got hobo sexual vibes right from
everything got seen up until this point. This nigga ain't
doing nothing that's earning real money.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Oh god, my work spere what my worst fears? Uh No, No.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
You ain't letting them live live with you?

Speaker 3 (44:38):
No, I have a dog, can't live with me.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
You can't use that as.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
An excuse not to support black.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yes I can't. I don't know you do.

Speaker 6 (44:51):
You know what I was gonna say, like it is
easier I imagine to live in expensive city like d C
with your if you have a dual income, tell a
lot of people. Young people survive nowadays. They are in
relationships and they sometimes stay in those relationships because they
can't afford to live in their own but sometimes, look,

(45:13):
you just got to make it work. So maybe you
eat out less, go don't go to Starbucks as often.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
You said, like a real Republican, do you really even
need a cell phone? I don't think you do. Don't
let anything.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
You even need food anything like that.

Speaker 6 (45:30):
No, no, no, no. And at this point she hasn't
even known him that long.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
No, you don't know. This man could be crazy. Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I mean, you're not telling anything that's wrong, but I
feel like I'm offended for him.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
I was one hundred percent team Blair Underwood when he
had even though it was a very brief reaction.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
He was like what he did?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
What?

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Because I imagine she.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
He was like he was. He was not plased.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
When I first went to her place, I'm like, this
is DC and this is a very nice place and
she's in law school. Where the fuck is she getting
that money.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
From her parents?

Speaker 5 (46:18):
And it was like, clearly her parents are rich. And
then I'm like, so this is going to be where
the fucking the where the conflict comps in the place,
like when he when he meets her parents, they're gonna
be like this nigga broke, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (46:29):
And show a ship.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
But they didn't go too deep into that, Like, I'm
actually surprised we didn't see more of.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
That kind of interaction between like him and Blare Underwood
and her mom.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
I guess it's just it's implied and they probably they
had other things they wanted to get into.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Well, but it's actually interesting because what ends up happening, right,
So we're actually at that part, So let's let's just
jump right into that. So she she the two of
them moving together or he moves into her house, right,
and she's like, all right, I want to introduce you
to my parents, and you see my parents, but I

(47:08):
haven't told them, like on the way, they're like, I
haven't told them that we live together. That's not okay, man,
don't don't throw this in the defense.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Why are you throwing me to the wolves on?

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Man, that's fucked up, Like you ain't let me prepare nothing.
I didn't get in Batman prep time nothing. I just
we just we just raw dog and I way through
this conversation. That's fucked up.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Okay, Michael, I have a question for you. Yes, So
let's just say it's like, twenty years from now.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
No, your kids bring.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
You there, and you and you and you are flitting
the bill for your kids's uh, you know, apartments and
you're happy to do so.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Oh no, I'm not. Doesn't make sense to me. It's like,
you know how to cut the grass, earn some money
on the weekends. Get the fuck out, Yeah, cut digress
of twenty six years.

Speaker 7 (48:03):
Money should be like a money should be like a
Shonda Rhimes protagonist.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Okay, finish with your nonsensical scenario immediately.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
That's like, what is what is your response to him?

Speaker 6 (48:24):
Your you're yeah, your your kids are are the Stevie
character bringing home Isaiah.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
All right, Look, in my case, it's gonna look a
little wild because my wife is an artist.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
So she would immediately be like, well, but then I'll look,
I'll just give.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
You a little bit of inside baseball. She'd be like, hmm,
he don't seem like he got his ship together, and
like she'd be like, nah no. But what we would
never do is tell her like we wouldn't be like
her parents who are like basically, oh, it's nice to
meet you.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Miss it.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Sure is like, I'm not gonna be like that. That's
fucked up.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
You know they were. They were dicks to him for
like really kind of reason.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I wouldn't do that, But I like, the thing is
with parents, it's a it's a delicate balance because if
you push hard, the kid just runs in the opposite direction,
especially at that age. Don't date them. They're the worst.
They're like, well, I can't wait to run to their arms,
Like so you gotta just you gotta, you gotta, you
gotta play it easy. You gotta play it easy. So no,

(49:28):
but I would. I would just do what I always
do to people I don't like. I would just subtly
undercut them in other ways that they are not aware of,
Like I don't even say it to your face, just
like try to cut that niggas show off, be like, yeah,
I get out of here. I call people up now,
I cancel that nigga, like, get out of here.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
So so so she said, we're living.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Together, no war, now what huh?

Speaker 4 (49:53):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (49:54):
You will live on his salary? He made fifty dollars
every week. Knock it.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Off.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
He's a struggling artist.

Speaker 6 (50:03):
This this, this is a chance to be, to be,
to be a progressive parent.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
We look eight years of the Trump administration. We ain't
got no money left, no progress. We're done selling bottle
caps for fucking dreams. Get out of here. No, no,
get away from my daughter. Get your dusty ass sons
away from my daughter. No.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
Wow, he's just trying to make some of himself. Aw
Now I'm offended for him.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Good m ago. No, I wouldn't know in all, honestly,
I I just I would. I would allow my daughter
to make the choices that she made. Now, she asked me, like, hey, Dad,
does this guy seem on the up and up? I'd
be like, seems like a nice enough guy, but like
what are his plans? Like does he have a plan?

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Like, Look, everybody doesn't have to their playing doesn't have
to be like make it rich, you know, make it big.
It really doesn't, it doesn't. But you gotta have something,
and it can't just be like I'm gonna become a
rapper type of ship. Like that's not really it. But
you know what I mean, you know, like I'm not
trying to be an asshole, but like, no, I'm just

(51:08):
saying a lot of niggas. I'm just saying a lot
of niggas be famous rappers, and a lot of niggas don't,
Okay that not everybody's gonna be fucking jay Z. Most
of your nigga's gonna end up like Kanye West.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Okay, what if he.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Wants to be the next Van Van Go and and
you have I.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Don't want my daughter Marision nigga will one ear get
out of here like.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
He was mentally Illiphi.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
No in all seriousness, No, like in all seriousness, Look,
you just you gotta have some sort of plan. What's
your plan?

Speaker 4 (51:41):
All right, he's trying to get the solo show, blah
blah blah.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I can respect it. I can respect it, Like it
would just look crazy for me to be like I
don't believe artist is a valid like lifestyle like no.
But at the same time, if this nigga was like,
I'm gonna make it into the NBA and this nigga
can't dribble, like what am I supposed to say to that? Right?
Like this guy talented? Yeah, he's really talented. All right, Michael,
how are you gonna tell your sons a ditch and

(52:06):
broom some chick fast like here we go. No, no, no, man,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
It's what if.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's different. It's different, right, Like
you know you're not gonna bring some do nothing woman
home and just like oh yeah, no, you know, Nah,
I don't. I don't understand. Look, it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
It sound like the dialogue in this movie right now.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Right right, I don't know how to finish a sentence,
let alone paper.

Speaker 7 (52:55):
If my if, if, if my kids bring home, uh,
somebody that I don't think it's good for them.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
I'm not gonna tell.

Speaker 7 (53:05):
Them right then and there, right out of respect for
the human being that's in the house.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Right, but you.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
Better damn sure. I'm gonna be like this during dinner.
You sure, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
This is good for you. I mean, you do what
you want, but I don't think this is good for you.
And I'm no, I'm gonna have to tell them. I'm
gonna have to tell them. And it's different for I
don't know, it feels different. Did you Did your parents
say they were not fans of LaToya? They were not.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
That's why I like your parents.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
And they told me no, no, they no, they don't
know about that. They didn't know about the appleheaded girl.

Speaker 7 (53:54):
But the only serious relationship I was in LaToya was
they didn't really care for her.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
She was something.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, she wasn't that. She wasn't for me.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Yeah, And that's okay to say that.

Speaker 7 (54:08):
That's perfectly trying to say it. And that's why I
can understand the characters in this movie, because when you're
in it, you don't see it. You need outside forces
to tell you. Jay told me, My parents told even
my sister told me, but you don't.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Like, you don't like I think I'm in middle school
and I can see this.

Speaker 7 (54:36):
Right, she's still his age, So that was like, what, uh, fifteen,
twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
So yeah, she essentially was twelve.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Middle school.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Oh my god, what you're doing. But you don't but
you know, you don't see it when you're in it. No,
uh right, you can't. And you know I'm not. I
only say her name because like we're cool now.

Speaker 7 (55:07):
But no, they they told me, and they said and
they were gentle about it. My mother was a little
under gentle and she she was a little like it's
it's like it's like it's like Goldilocks into three beds, right,
your mom is like, and dad is like, you sure

(55:33):
because I don't know?

Speaker 2 (55:36):
And then and.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
Then my sisters like and then my sister's like, well,
you might want to you know, you might.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Really want to think about it, you know, like she was.
She was very levelheaded about and she was a pre teen.
So but no, I'm gonna have to say something. I'm
gonna have to say something.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
And I feel like I feel like that's probably going
to be the dynamic in this house. We're just seeing
how the two of us parents are children. Uh, the
wife is probably gonna be like.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Well, you know, maybe me me, yeah, And I'm gonna
be a little more like you sure. I don't know, man,
I don't know. I don't know. That's a wild way
to be, like, yeah, I got engaged.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (56:35):
Man's like your word.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
That what you know? Are you sure?

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (56:52):
That's fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah. Well, he shows up to our parents' house and
they both are given the nigga what are you doing here? Odds?
Uh look uh look look just as an aside. Uh.
Susan Douglas, who plays the mom, is still fine.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Like I think she died.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
What are you seriously necrophilia, bro, nigga, she looks great.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Oh that's the shame. A year after the movie that sucks.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Just great here Uh Blair Underwood, Uh, he took some
time off from l A law.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
I think that's what he was on when I.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Was a kid. So yeah, he's he plays a dad
and he immediately is.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Like all right, all right if you say so. Type
of ship.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
He's like, hey, do you own any real estate? And
he's like, I'm just talking with you. I know, your broken,
nothing to buy, Like, yeah, help me out, bro, you
know a crypto coin something?

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Help me.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
So her parents are like yeah, her mom is like
real in your face about like you need to like yo,
take this law school shit seriously, stop working with other
people and wasting your time with this dude. Like I mean,
she's like she might as well just pointed at him.
At that point, Blair Underwood is I think slowly just

(58:23):
getting drunk and doesn't want to be there. Like he
just he's just like yeah, I mean that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
God please me.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
Well, you know, you know it's something like because like
whenever I see like tropes like this with the parents
are like, don't waste your time whatever. I'm like, is
it that you think she's wasting her time or you
just think she waste her time with him because if
he was more respectable, like like, let let's let's say
if he was a successful artist, would they have had
the same reaction.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
No, it's.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
It's the thing.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Remember I used to tell you this back in the day, Like,
you don't marry potential rights. You marry the person that
who they are, Like, Oh, they're gonna be They're gonna
be the next fucking DJ Khaled or whatever. You don't
know that. You don't know that, Oh he played basketball
real good. Yeah until his fucking a c L break
and then that's fucking end of it, right, You cannot
You can't date people like that, Like that doesn't work.

(59:17):
You have to date people who they are. And so like,
as a parent, like that to me is like a
real thing, like yeah, like, oh he could potentially be that.
What are you doing now?

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Though?

Speaker 2 (59:29):
What are you doing now?

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Because he looked like street nigga from DC, That's all
he look like to.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Me, Like, if I'm right, yeah, usef where you sef.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
At the ski?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
That's crazy? Yeah, I feel like those names should have
been swapped by the way, So yeah, it it feels
like that whole conversation, that whole dinner is the sort
of impetus for like he has almost I won't say
a personality change, but he has a big change and
how he operates around his art. The second after that
dinner scene where it becomes hyper focused and hyper serious

(01:00:09):
about it and not just wanting to do well but
like at all costs kind of thing, and they meet
up with their friends at Dukham, which is.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
A very famous euthy opian restaurant in DC and in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
And he's just like, yeah, I've got like I can't
go hang out. I gotta like work on this this
art piece. And they're like, oh, you know. Stevie's like yeah,
but you've been working all week. He's like, yeah, I'm
aware of that, but I gotta keep working right Like,
because he's he's trying to impress her parents in a
way but also show that like he's capable of something.

(01:00:46):
But it ends up like ironically him trying to do
and make up for what her parents want for their kid.
He ends up fucking the relationship up because of that
because it's not who actually who he is.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
You know what something about about this character. Not once
did I ever think that this this character wasn't ambitious
and didn't think that he could be successful, like because
I feel like in a lot of in a lot
of these types of movies that use these tropes, the
guy is always like, I don't know what I want
to do with my life, and like he's like, he's

(01:01:19):
he's an artist, but he's not. He's kind of taking
it half seriously when you meet Isaiah, like he's he's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Already at a at a.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
An art gallery and trying to make connections through his
more successful friend. So this is someone who who clearly
who clearly takes this path seriously, but just hadn't hit
that mark. I think you know, as you said, like
you know you don't date potential, but this is someone
who believes isn't known potential is actually taking it seriously.
It's just a matter of like again, it's it goes
back to that timing thing because when they first meet,

(01:01:50):
she's clearly on the up and up, and he's like,
but you hit when you hit, and you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Just don't know when that's going to happen.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
And I thought that was I liked that they did
that with this character too, because I think it would
have made again. It gives it gives more validity to
the to the difficult decisions they have to make later on.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Yeah, no, I think that's absolutely true. Chennai, the art dealer,
eventually meets with him and she's like, there's like a
weird like suspense, like, oh, does she like the paint
painting that he did or not? And she loves it,
and so she's giving him a solo show. He reveals

(01:02:29):
this at dinner with Stevie. I just just in aside.
His way of saying grace is the same way I
used to say grace when I was like six, So
I just thought that was really funny, like this nigga
hasn't changed a small child. But so he reveals he's like, Hey,
I'm doing a solo show, and she's like, oh my god,

(01:02:51):
that's so great. You know, she's like super happy for
him because she's look, she's very supportive, she really is.
She actually genuinely believes in him. And then he stands
her up when she invites him to go with her
and her parents. Is he Alvanley and she's watching this
beautiful art happened, and she's crying because the man she's

(01:03:15):
supposed to be sharing this with with her parents is
not there.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Did he did they tell him it was interpretive dance,
because I'm count me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I hate interpretive dance, but I have seen Alan It's
pretty remarkable, honestly, and I hate you interpretive dance. I
hate it. I hate it like it's it's one of
the worst things that's ever existed in.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
I don't I'm not. I don't get art just in general.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
I just like, sure you do, Sure you do. I
like the new supermovies art like but like painting and
ship like that. They'd be like, what do you feel?
I'm like, I see a tree?

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Nothing good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
That's what I was trying to get.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
What I was all right, well, good for you, this sucks, but.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Nothing you mean the void? Is that how you feel someone's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Just start just a single tear, like get it, I
get it, I get you. Take you taking this excuse?
I lost track of time after you called like fifty
four times, and do you just a show?

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
No, no, you makes middle night?

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
I mean, I mean, like I get it. You know,
things happen, but mm.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Hmm, I guess you you you accepted your wife. Don't
pick up the phone for calls.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
Again, this is something that I don't I can't fathom
because my wife will literally call me for anything. U
should walk out the house and immediately call me like, Hey,
did I leave my you know phone on the table?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Like you call him you on your phone? Uh? Not?

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Day, Look, look, everybody gets. Everybody gets.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:05:15):
There's a certain amount of stuff that you put up
with when you when you when you are where you
think you are in love with somebody, and you know
it's might sound weird, but like you got to keep
a tab of that stuff, and you know when the
bill comes due, I there's there's only there's only so

(01:05:38):
much that you can put up with.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
So would I accept it here? Maybe?

Speaker 7 (01:05:45):
But I remember I remember there was this guy I
used to work at a wastewater treatment plant. I remember
this guy, what was his name? I can't remember his name.
It was a real chill like low key dude.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Right. And and this was a bunch of blue color
people from Baltimore. Right.

Speaker 7 (01:06:03):
And so it's you know, they look the explitters fly
right like they're just calling each other like they shooting
on each other.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Right. And there's one dude the chill dude, borderline narc ealeptic,
and you know he was. They were talking about him,
and somebody was going and that mother over there, that
motherfucker said this, and this motherfucker he was this month.

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
And then the dude turned around, is like, I'm only
gonna be but so many motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Like you to be talking about me like that, and
that's and but that's like, that's that's the mentality, right,
and and that's just stopped, right, And that's that's.

Speaker 7 (01:06:43):
What you have to It's only so much that you
can put up with. So in this case maybe, but
in the end, like and we'll get to it. That's
that's one of the reasons why I really liked the end.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Ding And I hope for her sake, for her sanity,
that she makes the right decision, the not TR decision.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Which wait, what you mean, the not TR decision.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
The decision is like, oh, let's get back with him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
No, that's that's not what I said.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
What you said.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
I said, I said the movie had a happy ending.
I didn't say I agree with the ending.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
No, damn, I don't think. I think. I don't she
got together. Do you think she got back?

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Yeah? I do. I do think she I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
See, that's what that's her tr decision. And no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Offend because I even said that, I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
With Yeah, you did say that, all right, And I will.

Speaker 6 (01:07:50):
Say probably in a situation like this, Look, communication is
really really important, and this is another thing that is
just the chink in the armor that can be.

Speaker 7 (01:08:05):
I'm sorry, I can't say it our word.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
You can't say that, how about that?

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
But I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
All three of us are like, it's like as a
white person. As a white person, I know it's it's
an acceptable word word, but you're not allowed to say right.
Like it's the same thing like you can't say all right, whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
It is, it's something that can be one of the
things that's the downfall of relationship where you're dating. So
it's just like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Found about way of not saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
To my to my Asian folk.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Yeah, shout out to Asian people. Don't that phrase up.

Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
But it's like, I mean, if you apology guys, and
if like you make sure this doesn't happen again, then okay,
I guess yeah, but this man also lives with you
possibly rent free, so.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Which mean possibly how for anything.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Did you get that big a check from up?

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
No, not yet, not yet, by yet he about to be.
They're gonna be out there about to fuck that right up.
He does something that is disastrous and look, you got
any opportunity you have if you are with somebody and
you win an award, a special award. Yeah, and if

(01:09:42):
you don't think that person you're with, boy, you better
pack your fucking bags. Okay, Like that is that is
a bad idea. So he gets a solo show. It's
a fucking huge hit. Everybody comes, like everybody in DC,
I don't know. It's like seven people come, right, big
big deal. He's introduced at the solo show by his

(01:10:04):
by Chennai, his his agent, and he says, you know,
I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for one person,
and he goes Chennai, she really, you know, gave me
a chance. And he does not say anything about Stevee.
I was like, yo, I've been alive long enough to

(01:10:25):
know I've seen enough sitcoms, and I've been married long
enough to that is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
You lucky she didn't stab you right there, like you
gotta give. I don't care if she never even bought
you a paint brush or hated every painting you did.
You still if you want to live in a house
quietly and be.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Safe, rent free, rent free?

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Right? You a hobo sexual? You ain't got no job.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Rent through dick. That is not enough. Okay, it's not enough.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
No, it is not okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Yeah, you gotta you gotta think her and he and
he doesn't, and so she like you could see that
on her face, like I literally pay for everything, and
it's like not a place you want to at all.
He goes to Chennai afterwards. She gives him a check
and she was like, now, hold on, you're you know.
The reason why your art is so good is because,

(01:11:18):
you know, because you're starving, right, because you're hungry, probably
quite literally, and she was like, don't let this this
check change you. And then he looked at that check
and it was almost like a Tom and Jerry cartoon.
You can see his eyes bugging out of his head, like,
oh shit are you saying? So it must have been
quite a bit of money, which is great. So I
guess his art sold quite a lot. And just as

(01:11:41):
his life is on the upswing, she's like, hey, god,
look fat in this dress. And he was like, let
me answer that with me and fuck everything right up.
So she's like, hey, I have this opportunity, like, you know,
should I take the job in Chicago? Should I not
take the job? Like what do you think? And he's
just on a leg. Yeah, I mean it's a great

(01:12:02):
opportunity once in a lifetime. If if it was me,
I take it. And again he does this and he
does not cut it with any of the shit. In reality,
he just answers the question blankly. Don't do that any
question your spouse or significant other ask you, especially about
moving or you know, chasing their dreams and all this

(01:12:26):
other shit. You got to make sure that you understand context,
my nigger, way, do you not answer that question? That
is a death trapped And when he answers the question,
you can literally feel half the room go cold in
me in the fucking movie, and her entire demeanor changes because,
like Mike I said earlier, all she can think is, Oh,

(01:12:46):
if you had that opportunity, you would just up and
leave me and go live your life, which is fucked up.
So she does the telltale sign that you ain't getting
done tonight. She's wearing wet close to bed, which might
as well, be fucking armor because nothing is happening for you,
and like every other dumb nigga, he don't get it.

(01:13:09):
Try to make some happen. Let me see if I
can find the Asian in the armor. Oh ship, I
don't think you are, Like that feels worse.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
Ay, I just found We're gonna use it in the future.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
I'm gonna look it up.

Speaker 9 (01:13:37):
No, I mean you gotta look at if you gotta
look it up, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Yeah, yeah, go ahead, history, go ahead. What does that
word mean? Sorry, never forget that during was it insanity?

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
It was?

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I think it sports illustrated. When that ended. The title
of the article was whatever college he was at, like
cheek in the Armor, it was like, no, we and
they were like it was like, how did you think
that was acceptable? Like they literally, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
That's that's kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
It's super hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
It's fucked up. It's fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Yeah, it was. Of course they did. Of course they
did that on purpose. Offensive headline about Jeremy that's so racist,
wouldn't Yeah, I'm sorry when he yeah, he was playing
for the Knicks when they when he finally lost the
headline red chink in the Armor. Wow, how did you think? Yeah, no, no, dude,

(01:14:45):
that's not acceptable. There was no there was no excuse
for that. So yeah, he tries to make a move again.
She's wearing a long sleeve Howard University sweatshirt. I don't
think a woman has worn anything that's more obvious than
I'm not going to fuck you to than that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
So he tries to kiss her.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
She's like no, and he's like, wow, that wasn't what
was a problem, And so yeah, she's basically like, you
act like you didn't give a fuck, like you're never
here even when you hear you're not here, You're so
hyper focused. And I feel like this is a missed

(01:15:25):
opportunity where he should have said, I'm trying to like
make something in myself, just like what your parents want
for you. Like that could have been a like again
communication like that could have been a moment where she
could have understood, like, oh shit, like that that's why
he's acting the way it is.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
But well is in this scene, they do end up
saying like, we both have our own dreams, but they
but they say it at each other instead of this
actually discussing the reality of of them having dreams. But
it's more of like a you have your dreams, I
have mine too, just.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Like why.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
You know, I like I like pasta, Like what are
we yelling about?

Speaker 6 (01:16:09):
Yeah, it's just it felt it was it was clearly
like again having these discussions when you're both angry and
feeling slighted by by the other.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Yeah, like emotions on h Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
And and for him, like I think that the theme
up until this point is that his lack of consideration
for her, right like even at the you know, not
thinking her and not appreciate and not appreciating her and
not and and and this is where I kind of
probably wish the the development here was probably a little

(01:16:46):
bit better because I don't know if he resented her
for her dreams or or not, or if there was
some envy there because the way that he said, like,
you know, I think you mentioned like oh you want
to go be a lawyer and everything like that and
something something something like that. I don't know, it felt
it was like there was a mm hmm feeling maybe

(01:17:06):
he's like feeling a little bit behind.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Yeah, he's insecure.

Speaker 7 (01:17:10):
He's insecure and selfish and that's a that's a bad combination.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Yeah, Yeah, it's it's so funny because like the the
not thinking her thing, like I think it really like
that was a real catalyst for her getting really genuinely
pissed him. I heard a story the other day that's
in the same recard. I don't know if you gets
heard of this. You know who Kathy Bates is right

(01:17:34):
for misery? Yeah, video Mattea, Yeah she's yes.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Yes, video about her mom.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Yeah, her mom.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
Her have you heard this here?

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
On? Her mom gas lit her and was like you
didn't when you won the Oscar for misery, you didn't
thank me, and like she felt bad about it for fucking.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Years, like years. Yeah, And then she.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Was on she was on like Turner Classic Movies with
Ben Minkwoot's and he was like she was she was
telling that story like, yeah, I didn't think my mom.
He was like, I watched her oscar speech. He's like,
you did think your mom? She's like, what are you
talking about? And they played it for you. She did.
She felt horrible for like thirty fucking years and her
mom was wrong about it, like she did think her mom.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Yeah, that's like the worst type of gas lighting I've
ever heard. Yeah, your mom, Like I would your mom sucks.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Ya.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
I don't know if her mom's dead alive.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
Because Kathy Base is getting pretty goddamn old. Yeah, but
I'm assuming she probably may not be alive anymore. But
that's fucked up. That's super fucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
Like, oh, she's been dead, she's been deaf for almost
for almost thirty years.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Good. Oh so you lived your whole damn dude, so
all that time you felt fucking miserable during that entire Yeah,
so thank people, man, and just and also remember that
you did. It's like, write the ship down and just
read it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
That's what's on film. She went back to look it up.
That's the crazy part, as.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Mom, You sure, are you shure?

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
I'm pretty sure I did. Like, No, you didn't, like
we could have went back to the tape.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Yeah, she did. But you're in love.

Speaker 7 (01:19:17):
You love your mother, and you're not you're not thinking
about it when you're in it because love makes you crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Yep, that's exactly what happened in that movie, Misery. Love
makes you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
Crazy, insane, snapper ankles.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
That's the ultimate parasocial relationship. I'm gonna hobble you what.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
That movie is great.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
It's fun up and it's great By the way, this
is the best acting in the movie. This argument, this
is this is the best acting. This is when Kofe Cerabo.
Actually his character comes a lot. The rest of the time,
he's just like the coolest nigga on the earth. This
one he's like like, like, I have this muted, but
it looks like he's he is telling somebody about a

(01:20:04):
pillow top mattress, like the furniture. Yeah, it's like I'm
telling you if you just overlaid that audio. He seems
so mad. So he's like, look, you know, yeah, you

(01:20:24):
get to chase your dreams or no, he says, have
you ever cared about anything? Like yo, chase this dream
or whatever?

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
She was She was fucking like, who are you talking
to right now?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Again, it's easier said than done to be like, don't
let emotions run high really super fucking hard and was
one of the most accurate portrayals of a nigga A scene.
What the scene? Yeah, just this character, right, he's and

(01:21:01):
and completely.

Speaker 7 (01:21:03):
Right, but it's super selfish, right, doesn't know it. I
don't even think he means to be.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
That selfish, right, I don't think he's just inherent delicious, right,
He's not like a he's not like a red pill
dude right now, but he's you know, he's not a
bad guy.

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
But he just don't think he's saying he's selfish. I
don't think he's actually selfish. I think it's just like
once once her parents like lit that fire under his
ass by like shipping on him essentially like yeah, you're right,
I gotta. But then he like kind of like neglects
everything else in his life. He just super focuses on
his art.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
And that's self involved, I mean selfish.

Speaker 7 (01:21:48):
Like people likesh like don't confuse selfish stingy right, Like
he's it is like I I completely understand and I
get that, like like he has this newfound ambition right
but towards the end of the movie where she's just like, hey,

(01:22:08):
come lay with me, and he's just like, Noah, behold up, though,
I got to take care of something more important.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
I don't give he kept doing that ship. He kept
doing that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Bro, click who cares? Yeah, you didn't pick up her
fifty calls to the fucking Alvin Ailey, but you got
to pick up this this one call right away.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
But bring up shit, I.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Mean the movie, yes, like he's not being considerate of.

Speaker 7 (01:22:42):
Afterthought and nobody wants to be the afterthought in a relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
That's correct.

Speaker 6 (01:22:46):
And and what what I will say is and this
is goes back to timing. I think if you're if
you're someone who's like Isaiah, you need to be alone,
be single. Don't like, don't don't don't don't waste someone like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Stevie's time because like, yeah, Stevie was busy with law school,
but she's looked. But I think we noticed like she
was handling her.

Speaker 6 (01:23:11):
Her her law school studies and her relationship pretty well,
like she was making time for for her relationship, whereas
he was not making time for her. And if you're
not going to make the time, and I do think
that like if you, if you if you're really really
into someone, if you really want, if you really want
someone to be part of your life, you want to
be part of theirs, you will make the time to

(01:23:33):
do that, even even even even in busy life. And
if you feel like that, you are so wrapped up
in your own dreams and ambitions that you know that
you can't give that kind of attention that the other
person is seeking from you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Cuddles, Yeah, no, I think that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
I think that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I mean, look time, time is a very important part
of a relationship. The time that you spend with your
your signific other, the time you dedicate to even thinking
about them or considering them. Those things are big deals.
And you're right, Stevie. In a way, Stevie's Stevie's slightly

(01:24:12):
annoying as a character that she's so goddamn good at
all of these things, Like she's balancing like this relationship
and you know, the rent for two people by the way,
and she's doing law school and everything else. She's doing
all that shit with a smile, inner face, like she's
still happy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
She doesn't I mean she.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Quite literally does not resent him until I think he
doesn't thank her at that thing. Like that scene seems small,
but it is. It is really the like the real
breakpoint that everything you know comes off of, right, Like
her parents created the conflict in him that started kind
of the sort of the spin underneath the relationship, but

(01:24:52):
it broke for her when he didn't think her like, Yo,
I'm doing all this shit. I never I never asked
for anything. I'm not trying to, you know, do anything
to like fuck your shit up. I'm working and you know,
I'm cooking dinner and going to plays and paying for
gas and all this other shit. And you never said
I'm never like, you know, angry at you because I

(01:25:13):
know you got to focus as an artist. But the
one time you could have just been like and shout
out to my girl Stevie for holding me down. I
couldn't do any of this without her, you didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Yep, just say thank you, Say.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Thank you, otherwise you lose somebody. And then you got
to be reminded when you go on a TV show
thirty years later that you did say, like, don't fuck
it up. So they have this argument again. It is
I think it's probably the best.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Scene in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
And he's like, oh, you got you got money to
fall back on, Like you don't have to worry about
you got money fall back on. And I literally mouthed
when I watched this movie with the person, I was like,
fuck you, And she immediately said I was like, like
that is the correct response. You can't say that to her, yo,
Like she's still she's a smart she's a smart woman.
You can't just be like you got money, so like
you know it don't matter what you what you feel,

(01:26:02):
or like how hard you work, and like, don't do
that to people. Don't believele belittle people's work because she's
in law school. Yeah again and doing all this other
ship and all you got to do is be an artist.
And you can't pick your head up long enough to
be like, don't go to Chicago without me. I love you,
Like you can't do that. Also, nigga, you can make
art anywhere. You coulda you could have left you could

(01:26:23):
I get the art scene or whatever. Chicago not exactly
a hay seed little town either, Okay, Like it's not like.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
What's his name of artist in uh maya Coppa in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Yeah, you could have worked in this.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Could or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Yeah, you could have brought your girl over and you
all could also had sex on paint, which is feels
like that's getting in places you don't want it to be.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
That's wait, I'm sorry, what do you say?

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
That's the Travante Roads?

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Uh uh yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
Me and copa the top top R movie Tyler Perry movie.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
I don't think I've seen.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Oh I never saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
My wife hated that movie. She hated it, Like, wait.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
What is your wait what is doing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
He's an artists, an artist.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
He's an artist in that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
And he is the most He is exactly what people
who never pay attention to art thinking the artist is. Oh,
look he's free and encumbered. He's having sex on his
paintings and getting glitter on himself, like and he has
a sex basement. And I'm like, what the fuck is
any of this?

Speaker 7 (01:27:29):
What is this?

Speaker 4 (01:27:30):
It's Tyler Perry's Tyler Perry's weird twisted fantasy or whatever
that was called. Tyler Perry is an interesting individual.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
No, he isn't disagree. So yeah, they She was like, look,
you need to get the fuck out. They break up,
and you see, Chani is like, look, you need to
get out. Twenty paintings every year. Take the ship global
sound we can we get rich smash cut to like
a year later, his buddy comes over. That's the dude

(01:28:04):
from the Wire by the way. Yeah, he comes always like, hey, man,
I haven't seen you, Like you want to hang out, Like,
let's go get some beers on U Street, which is like, yes,
we get it. You're in DC. Like it's just really hilarious,
Like if you go, it's very weird.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Chili bowl Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Hey, let's go to Bench Chili Bowl because that's where
we all go, Like we all hang out there Like
that seems weird. That would you like to hang out
at the Capitol. Let's go to the Washington Monument. I
love d C. The mall is great. Like, so we've
been a dialogue. But sure, have you been to the
African American Smithsonian Museum? So hurry the tickets are selling out, yeah,

(01:28:48):
because they're moving. Ship. This is too black, get rid
of it. So so he's like, look, I gotta It's like,
how about next weekend. I gotta go to Chicago. I
gotta make a little trip up in Chicago. But I'll
be back. Let's hang out next weekend. So all right,
because it's a year later, obviously he's a lot more successful. Uh,

(01:29:11):
this nigga got a got a real suit on, matching hat.
Look at all smooth and ship. See Natty, are you
you you're not talking to this dude?

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
You got a feather in his hat.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
He's if he touches, if he touches my necklace answers though, No,
he can't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Now he can't now, no, not even with a feather
in his hat.

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Absolutely, especially actually maybe especially because he has a feather
in his hat.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Yep, he's like a get.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Away from.

Speaker 6 (01:29:41):
I will I will continue, I will continue to say this.
That is a beautiful man, good lord.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Like like see just like just like her. You forgot
he was there too. He's like hi, uh, he's like
trying to get in to see hey, this is me
to me remember me.

Speaker 6 (01:30:03):
I mean, all I'm saying is it's been a year
they haven't talked, and you you you know, she's been
thinking about him and this is and this is where
I'm a girl. Remember, y'all have real issues. Do not
do not sleep with this man. Do not sleep with
this man. Sex is not going to cure everything. Just you, y'all,
y'all gotta y'all have to talk about real things I
don't about.

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
That the body talk. And that's exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
So they meet in Chicago at this at this ourt
opening and her boyfriend, I guess, Ahmed is there. I
feel sorry for this dude. It looks they looked like
they painted our boy Deacon a couple of shades darker
and put him in this movie.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
But you know, like, good for him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Kind of looks like it. So he he's just standing
there while these two I fuck each other to death.
No thanks, no thanks. I'd be like, I'm gonna go ahead,
and I'm gonna go ahead and leave you. I'm being
a car. You just call me when you're ready to
go home, because at the end of this fucking day.

(01:31:14):
And then they do a side shot of her staring
at a painting, which was definitely on purpose.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
That quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Y's exactly like the cinematography. I'm watching this movie. No,
she looks amazing, and I'm ed is walking and looking
at art alone interesting. So he so he leaves her
like a voicemail. He's like, hey, I've got this second
solo show in d C. I'd really love you to

(01:31:42):
come down, and you know, I want to show you something.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
You know, just call me back.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
They meet up for dinner in d C before the
solo show, like I guess a couple days before or
the day before maybe, and they have this like similar
to the beginning conversations, which is they just I fucked
the shut out of each other and don't say.

Speaker 7 (01:32:03):
Much and well his niggas like are you happy? Kind
of fuck boy asked question, is this get the fuck
out of here?

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
And I'm glad she was just like, oh, fuck, you
know you can't ask that. Get out of here?

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
Yeah, I mean that is a fu boy question.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
You would agree, yeah, I mean, but also like you know,
she has a boyfriend. Come on now, like what what
what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
What you gotta do with me? That was you man
got to do with me?

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
That's right, song nigga like, what the fuck is your
man happy? Do he make you happy?

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Shut up?

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
Get out of here?

Speaker 7 (01:32:47):
Yeah, she was not by jays some ship her boys
to men in the background accompanying you and ship get
out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Yeah. And so she's like, oh, I read about your
you know, I read your interview in the New York Times,
like to let the audience know like he's doing quite well.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
He's like, oh, let me ask you a second question.
She's like okay. It's like, uh, what are you doing
the rest of the night? And I thought, Hey, maybe
they're gonna go and like have a lovely evening and
try to like reconnect and like you'd have this like
little montage. Nah, they just woke up in bed motage.

(01:33:31):
They got right to it. I mean, God bless them,
God bless them again.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
This is a very good scene.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
So yeah, they do their thing. Could slow it down,
we want it if you like. And immediately his phone
rings in the morning and he just like picks it
up and she's like, oh, just lay with me, and
he's like, nah, I'm I'll go ahead and pick this up.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
You got a beautiful woman that you wooed back into
your bed.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
I guarantee you that phone learned nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
You learn nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
That's what I'm saying. Phone she flewed out to you. Yeah,
like you learn nothing and you can take that phone
call later.

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Literally, Look, I don't even think it's offensive to lay
in the band and be like, oh, who is it?

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Like unless it was my mom that like, like unless
it was my mom, Like hou's off iron Like get
the Baltimore helpers like out of that. Like what would
have happened if the phone went off while they were fun?
Would you stop? No? Probably?

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Like if it ran, if it ranked more than once,
he probably would have stopped.

Speaker 7 (01:34:52):
This is why this is this is what I can
appreciate about this movie. Like this character you think that
this car character has grown, and he hasn't, not in
a not in an emotional way.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
He's grown. He grew in a in a way that
men only see growth through, you know, through your career,
through financial meed. But like he hasn't. He hasn't grown
mentally or emotionally. He hasn't grown emotionally, and you need

(01:35:26):
it's a it's a combination of all that stuff, man,
And like it's real, Like I don't understand how this
is a difficult concept to grasp, but apparently it is
because like all, like the internet is full of people
who of dudes who don't get women right. I never

(01:35:47):
seen any of these dudes widow woman ever telling you,
telling you what you got to do and all this.
And I don't know, man, it just is listening to
a bunch of people giving you the experience of them
being wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:36:01):
Congratulations to evil and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
This dude and this dude, and this dude just apparently
has a fucking magic dick. And she she's just like
she she has post nut clarity. She live.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
That's a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Tr it is even for y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
I mean, but like.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
I don't care for the term.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
I mean, it's like, like, what do you mean like,
what do you mean like when when when a.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Guy, when a guy is done, the rose colored glasses
of his life fall away from the scales fall away
from his eyes. To to to probably misquote the Bible.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
Like what what you don't know?

Speaker 7 (01:36:51):
You don't know what post nut clarity is, No, because
I'm because I'm like post clarity is when you were
in it, when you were in it, when you were
in it, and you and you're you're grooving and you're
you're you're doing what adults do right, and you know,
my wife could ask me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
Right and then once it's old.

Speaker 4 (01:37:14):
Right, I'm getting.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
That is a wonderful callback to episode that is that?

Speaker 7 (01:37:22):
Is it like she could ask me to do anything
and I'm gonna say, yeah, right, But then it's like, oh, ship,
what did I say I was gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
And it's just clean the hot vacuum and god damn.

Speaker 7 (01:37:37):
It you and now you gotta do it right like
when you're but when you're when you're in love, right,
you don't see it, and when you're out of it,
it's like, oh ship, like how could I not see this?

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Right? That's postal clarity. Is that on a micro level? Yeah,
like a matrix. Yeah, yeah, that movie is a two
hour action film about post nut clarity. That's true. Look,

(01:38:15):
that's that is certainly a way to describe that movie.
But it's it is really funny because yeah, she does,
she does finally get it, and then she has that
conversation with her mother, and her mom is like, look,
timing matters, right, Like I used to be with a
guy who used to fucking dick me down better than

(01:38:36):
your dad ever could, but that shit ain't work out.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
And then I met your father and it was fine
and everything that okay and I settled and then you
can't and it looks you could have been somebody else's baby.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
Mom.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
What the conversation we have right now? But like, in fairness,
the mom is correct, right. Love is not enough to
sustain a relation, Like when people say, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
No, this is all you need.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
Know the fuck it ain't rent, mortgage, groceries, fucking time,
those are things you need. Love is the thing about
right you date anybody? Can you imagine he vote, he vote?

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
She voted, I know who she voted for, but did
he vote?

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Did he vote?

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
I don't know if he did. I don't know, man,
But I mean a little too. He a little too
ambitious to be like I'm with her, you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
Know what I mean, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
You put her on your phone, But that don't count.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Nigga Like he lives outside the system. That's what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
Yeah, he feels like I think both of them are
equally bad. Like all right, you read up on anything.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
The only way I could protest is by not voting.
So they know.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
He black, Like, oh come on, man, But but you know,
but that need more than just love. You do that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
That's a very immature way of looking at marriage or
deeper relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
I think. I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:40:10):
I say, I say settled settling to be funny, I
don't think people settle some people.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
I really don't.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
Some people do.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Some people definitely, Well those people aren't happy. If you
are happy or you're not, have not settled. Yeah, no,
I but I think I think people mistake like wild
crazy young love is the only type of pure love.

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
No, it isn't. It isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Like I actually read this woman's like she was talking
about she's in an arranged marriage, and like she had
just they had just gotten married, and she was talking
about like how her and her husband just kissed for
the first time and all this other stuff, like they've
been married for like a couple of months. Right, Like
those marriages I know, look not for me, not for me,

(01:40:59):
but those riches people tend to ironically they develop a
almost a deeper love for each other because they've actually
had to develop it, not based on the like the
wow crazy shit, Like they're just like your two partners
and you're like, okay, I guess we have to live,
and then you end up developing. Like I don't think
those things ultimately end up being much different, right, Like

(01:41:19):
there's something that they're not great, just like they're you know,
quote unquote love marriages that turn out terrible too, But
people develop love over time. Like the love I have
for my wife is not the same love I had
from my girlfriend who is now my wife, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
Like they're they're two very different things.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
People think. You see somebody across a room at an
art gallery and you're like, let me touch a necklace,
and like that's how it is until the day you die,
It fucking isn't. She's the mother of my daughter. Like
those kind of things change what your perception of love is.
And like that's why I hate hearing people talk about like,
you know, you can't trust a woman or you can't

(01:41:56):
trust a guy or whatever, you know, with your heart
and stuff like that. When you're young, because you don't
know what the fuck love is, you think that love
is that fucking puppy dog shit, and that is a
version of it. But when people when you see your grandparents.

Speaker 4 (01:42:09):
Like, we've been together for seven and half years, and
I love him, he loved.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Me, that love they have is fucking different than what
the fuck you have in your twenties. When you meet somebody,
it's not the same. And in order to sustain those
kind of relationships, you have to understand that love changes
and it grows, and like, look, sometimes it even wanes, right,
like a little bit it does. You have kids, and shit,
life is hard, and then that comes back up, like
that's that's just a part of it, right, Like you

(01:42:35):
just have to be mature about those kind of things.
But love changes over time, and so his like I'm
so deeply in love with you still feels like this
very puppy dog kind of like it's almost like an
infatuation with her, And now I do believe he does
love her, but her love for him it feels different
by the end of the movie, like she loves him,

(01:42:56):
but I don't think she's in love with her, And
that's the difference. I think he is in love with her,
but she's not in love with him, which is why
I think her looking at that that that picture that
he or the painting that he does, like she has
those feelings for him, and I think they are very deep,
and I think she realizes how deeply he feels for her,
but it isn't the same, which I appreciate that that's
what I like, but that's my interpretation. At the end,

(01:43:18):
I mean they could leave the art gallery and just
go back to fucking boning each other for the next
thirty five years.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
I have no idea, but that's probably what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
That's what you want to happen. I M no, I want,
I want, I want her to end up with.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
No I want.

Speaker 6 (01:43:38):
I wanted them to break up. I think this is
I think it's a situation where you break up at
the end. I think this is the situation where where
you where where Yeah, you see the painting and with
your with your tity painted out and your parents are
probably there, and it's just weird. And and I think
you still have that conversation that they're like, hey, we
had a really great night last night and we reconnected.

(01:44:01):
Clearly there's a lot of love there. But this is
not going to work because because I also think as
you get and I also think like that type of
experience helps you determine what kind of love is right
for you, because your definition of love changes as you
get older, like what you're willing to put up with,
Like so like in your twenties, you're probably like, oh
my god, it's fireworks all the time, and then you

(01:44:22):
realize maybe you don't need to feel fireworks for someone
to develop chemistry, because chemistry develops over time as you
get to know somebody and it becomes more of a
slow burn and you actually enjoy like the peacefulness that
love can bring us instead of the chaos. And I
could have seen her like and and this is where

(01:44:45):
I was saying, like I would have loved for them
to kind of show how they both change as individuals
to us. For her, I could have seen her saying like,
you know, the love I had with you was real
and it was important to me, but it's not the
kind of love I need go going forward and him
being so focused on his career, saying like, but the

(01:45:07):
love I have for you is real, but him not
still meeting her where she is because he can't because
he because he's not emotionally available to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
I would have I would have loved for that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
To be, I have to say, like, I actually I
love that idea for an ending, but I but I
would The only caveat that I would add to that
is I would have liked to see him mature and
him also realize that while he's he loves her and
he like he feels very deeply for her, she's not
the type of person for him at that moment.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
Right, Yeah, that's another Right.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
Like the two of them come to this real day,
even after sleeping with each other, like we are just
not it is not right. They're just not coma at
the moment. By the way, at the moment, because you
could you could easily split off for another two, three,
five years and come back. That happens in real life
quite quite literally, right, And then you eat that person,

(01:46:00):
You're like, oh shit, this guy is like this amazing artist.
He's an internationally renowned artist. He's like a big deal.
He can live anywhere. Right, he can live in Chicago.
Who gives a fuck. Right, he's not doing like pennyany shows,
and shit, he can do that. And I'm a big
time lawyer in Chicago or wherever the fuck you know. Uh,
she ends up right and she's she's doing her thing,

(01:46:21):
and he makes tons of money and he's world renowned
and she does her lawyership and she makes tons of money.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
Like, yeah, it doesn't just because it doesn't mean that
it's not working.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
At the moment, doesn't it can't work in the future.
And so that would have kind of been cool, Like
what was the movie We did Love Jones?

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
Like that was their kind of thing, is they weren't incompatible.
They were incompatible at those moments, and then at the
end they found the time to connect, right like that,
that's what happens in the end, is like it was
like not now I'm good, I'm not, I'm good, I'm not,
And it was like up and now, up and down,
and then at the end they found each other. That's
a perfectly reasonable and that's also a human experience. So yeah,

(01:47:05):
I mean it's ambiguous, but I don't I don't mind
the ambiguous ambiguity.

Speaker 6 (01:47:09):
Of it all, and and I think for like overall,
like romance movies, I will I prefer more real endings
like that where it's okay to love each other but
split apart, because I think that's real life and that's
and that's and that's healthy, instead of kind of like
what we're used to seeing, which is like it's just such.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
A perfect little ending.

Speaker 6 (01:47:32):
And she moves back to d C and blah blah
blah blah, she does her layer thing and I don't
I don't want all that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Yeah, that would have been that would have been the
ending done. Yeah, he rides Togo on a horse like
that one dumb ll J movie or whatever that'd be.
That'd be one of these people. And that'd be one of.

Speaker 4 (01:47:51):
These because they name you stuff in that movie.

Speaker 6 (01:47:55):
Okay, like that's just not Brad Cayden, Meghan Caen and Meghan.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Oh I'm going to move to Chicago. No. No,
He packs his bags to go to Chicago, she packs
her bags to go to d C. They somehow meet
in the airport.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
I was gonna move there.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
We should just live in the airport together and fall
in love.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
And then and left the movie.

Speaker 6 (01:48:19):
He would have he would have he would have had
he would have had a so whole solo show to
reveal that painting as a surprise for.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
Her, and and I and I met, and I met with.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Up black like credits and.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
Like and and what's it amed? And then Ahmed would
have been like is that supposed to be you? Like?

Speaker 6 (01:48:45):
And then it would been like a whole brief blowd
triangle thing, and and like I thought that's where it
was going, and I was like, it.

Speaker 7 (01:48:51):
Would have been it would have been uh, it would
have been the wedding episode of a different world.

Speaker 4 (01:48:57):
Hell yes, yes, man.

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:49:01):
Kadeem Hardison was like, was like, Kadeem Hardison was like, no,
man would ever do this. Like he went to the
writers and was like, Yo, this don't make sense to me.

Speaker 4 (01:49:14):
No, look you got me looking wild, bro, this don't
work out?

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Like what if this don't work out? I was like
a straight up asshole right now?

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
Yeah yeah yeah, by.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
The way, if that happened on my wedding, now, I'm
gonna punch you in your fucking mouth. Everybody, No, you
gotta get you, get heardbody done with you. Yeah, Sin Bay,
Colonel Taylor, all of them, What the hell Colonel Taylor.
Dude no, incidentally, is in the new Tyler Perry movie.

Speaker 4 (01:49:51):
Weirdly that trailer.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
He was a guy in the wheelchair. Oh, this is real,
And honestly, no, that's probably for the best.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
I thought it was a joke at first.

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
Doing another time, I pray a movie again.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
No, you should have named that movie, by the way,
because it's just John ke the denal Washington. So yeah,
that's how the movie ends. It ends with her titty
out in the painting.

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
She's looking at it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
She's the fuddled, bewildered, bemoaned, and she she loves it,
and I assume, and he's standing there behind her, ready
to touch her necklace without her permission, so ready to
pounce like a predator. Look.

Speaker 7 (01:50:37):
I I really enjoyed the ending. I thought her, I
thought her acting, her acting without you know, just just
the way she looked and you can see the emotion
and the thoughts running through her head, uh, you know,
weighing like do I want to do I want to

(01:50:59):
put up with this ship again? Like do I want
to give this another try?

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
Right?

Speaker 7 (01:51:04):
Because she obviously really has feelings for the dude, and
she knows that he has feelings for her, but.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
I am not.

Speaker 7 (01:51:12):
I am not convinced that she is going to go
through with giving.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Him another try. She's said, because he hasn't by the way,
if you want right right, because he because he hasn't
shown any growth. He hasn't shown any growth, like like you.

Speaker 7 (01:51:32):
Could even like, like going back to what you said
about like you could have took the phone call in
bed right like that would that would have been a
really good way to kind of well like cauld she
if she would have said, lay with me, and he did,
but he still answered the phone while he was in bed,

(01:51:53):
that could have been a very good like is he changing?

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Is he not changing?

Speaker 7 (01:51:58):
Like I still see he's focused on work, but he
is here with me right, Like that could have been,
like I don't really appreciate that he's taking that phone call,
but I did ask him to stay and he did, right,
Because she made that point early on in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
She said, if you would have said I don't want
you to leave, I would have stayed, right, And this
is literally her saying, hey, stay with me in bed,
and he left. He did it again, So that's why
I'm like, and like I said, he did it, he.

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
Did it at the end.

Speaker 5 (01:52:34):
Also, like they meet right back up again in the
art gallery and Uzzoduba comes up and like I need you,
I need someone. I need you to see someone. And
it's like give me a second. I'm like, Yo, give
me ten minutes. I'll be there there, not leaving anytime.
So this is my fucking this is my.

Speaker 4 (01:52:48):
This is my Yeah, you have sug opportunity to be
like the last time she gave me, well you just
left again, Like what the fuck? Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
This woman came to mykeet's point. This woman flewed herself
out to see you. You've spent the night with her.
Last night, you had this connection. All you had to
do is be like the world is shut down when
I am with you. That's all she wants from you, dude.
That's all she wants is to know that she is

(01:53:19):
the priority in that moment.

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
Yep, God damn it, man, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:53:26):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
It's not that hard, man, It's.

Speaker 3 (01:53:29):
Not that hard.

Speaker 6 (01:53:30):
It really is and like people people make it, you know,
more complicated than it is. But it's and it's these
it's it is those little moments. It's not it's not
like just like the like the big fights and everything
like that. It's those little moments of not feeling appreciated. Yeah,
that just build up over time and then yep, every time,

(01:53:52):
m and then you wake up and you're like, why
does it? Why does she support my my artist's career.
I'm up here blowing up and she's up here still
give me attitude because you don't pay attention to it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:02):
That's true. It's the fact. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
Well, then you don't know what.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
You don't prioritize the relationship. That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:09):
You have to know, find a button and then just
keep pusking. You still haven't seen.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
No, no black people. He hate black art.

Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
I saw this black people. This is my version of it. Right, No,
you haven't seen it yet. I have not had time.

Speaker 6 (01:54:35):
I've seen it like twice. Like, but it's wrong with
they don't. They don't got into Mexico yet.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
They don't. They don't.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
But it was black actually any black was there any
black people in Thunderbolts to Jail? I know you saw
that what.

Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
You saw for you in the theater. No, it was
just me.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
You watched a snow bunny.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
Snow Bunny's another black women forever times too.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
The only snow money I will ever approve of.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
And you know, you know why, you know why, it's
actually no, in all seriousness, you know why. It's really
difficult because after after the first two weeks of a
movie being out, it's very hard to find you version.

Speaker 4 (01:55:31):
That's why.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
The same.

Speaker 7 (01:55:35):
You've been there for three years, don't know Spanish, sh
don't Actually I kind of don't want you to see it. Well,
I kind of want your first viewing to be when
we review it for the show.

Speaker 5 (01:55:53):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:55:54):
I mean, it's probably gonna be on v o D
probably fairly soon. I have to imagine.

Speaker 7 (01:55:58):
Anyway, back to this movie, this movie, this movie is uh.
I I honestly when I when I watched this movie,
I honestly did not think. I was like, how are
we going to get through this movie? Especially the slog
of the first half. But this was a very interesting
conversation when the movie does get into what you know,

(01:56:21):
when when the movie does get going it it is
very interesting, especially given the climate of you know, gender
wars nonsense that we we go through.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:56:34):
I gotta tell you, considering the internet and like the landscape,
if I was a woman, I feel like i'd probably.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
Be a lesbian, I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
Like again, you listen to the niggas who've never who've
never been in a successful relationship. Listen in the fresh Ship,
the niggas are allergic to pussy. To get out of here,
just just a.

Speaker 6 (01:56:59):
Quick aside, because now on apps and stuff, men are
hiding their political affiliations like they're either not putting or
they're putting like Modero a political and they're like or
just straight up just like saying, not putting anything there,
not indicating what their political values are.

Speaker 3 (01:57:16):
And it's it's it is so obvious, right, And now
they're being like, no one will.

Speaker 6 (01:57:20):
Match with me because because of what I say or
don't say for my political leadings, because what they really.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
Want is like liberal women. They know liberal women aren't gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:57:29):
Go for them.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Yeah, why do you? Why do you want them? Who cares?

Speaker 4 (01:57:33):
Why don't you stick with you?

Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
There are plenty conservative women out there, by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:57:37):
There's tons of them.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Go get them.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
I went on a day was one yeah, one one ton.
I didn't know that. I didn't know that until I
was on there.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
No are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
No, I'm looking like no, I didn't know, and then
she was like, yeah, but I liked Obama. I was
like that's cool, Like, so what we're doing?

Speaker 4 (01:58:00):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
Bett? How was that it there? Going out on going on,
going out on dates with anti dent heights Like whoa, whoa, whoa.
You believe they have their own.

Speaker 4 (01:58:13):
That's a deep cut. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
That is it for us for episode two eighty two,
Really Love. We will be back next week for a
previous episode for episode two eighty three. Next time, guys,
see

Speaker 4 (01:58:24):
Ye right, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,