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January 30, 2026 41 mins
This week on Black on Black Cinema, we preview our upcoming review of Spike Lee’s groundbreaking 1986 film "She’s Gotta Have It;" a bold, black-and-white exploration of love, agency, and identity. Our full review drops next week.

We also dive into this week’s random topic: Kanye West’s public apology to fans following his past embrace of white supremacist ideology, and Nicki Minaj’s sudden alignment with the Donald Trump MAGA movement. We break down why these moves feel like a betrayal to their Black and LGBTQ fan bases—and what it says about celebrity, power, and politics today.


Black on Black Cinema is a long-running podcast featuring in-depth Black movie reviews and frank conversations that matter to the Black community. We review Black films across every genre — from Black horror and Black sci-fi to indie dramas, comedies, and blockbuster action. Covering filmmakers like Spike Lee, Jordan Peele, Ryan Coogler, Ava DuVernay, and more. Hosted by Jay, Micah, Terrence, and T'ara. Featured on RogerEbert.com. A TNP Studios production. New episodes weekly on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and all major platforms. For more TNP Studios content, check out The Nerdpocalypse (movie & TV news), Look Forward (progressive politics), and Dense Pixels (video game news).




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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have no I kid man a lesson about the
villain two right now, go find the last down before
me change.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
And let's rapper chase on it.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello and welcome to a brand new preview episode for
Black and Black Cinema. I'm your host, Jay, I'm here
with my co host Micah Hey and Terrence.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
All right, guys, we are back. This is a preview
for episode two ninety three. She's got to Have It.
This is the nineteen eighty six original film by Spike Lee,
not the series that came out a couple of years ago.
The log line for this one is story of a
woman in her three lovers, about as simple as it
can be. Obviously written and directed by Spike Lee, starring

(00:53):
Tracy Camilla, Johns, Tommy Redmond Hicks, and John Canada Terrell.
So that is on Netflix you if you don't already
own it, so make sure you check that out. Should
be a fun conversation. I can't believe we've not done this.
As MIKEA pointed out to me before we started the show,
that's true, because I feel like this should have been

(01:14):
a movie we did, like episode seven, but but we haven't.
So heading back to nineteen eighty six for this one.
The random topic this week is about I guess two people.
But Kanye West decided to put out a full page
ad in I believe it was the Washington Washington Journal

(01:36):
or something like that, where he apologized for his behavior
over the last number of years. And then couple that
with Nicki Minaj coming out with Donald Trump at some
sort of event, pushing Trump accounts and saying that you know,
she loves Donald Trump and people saying that she shouldn't

(01:56):
hang out with him makes her of like him even more,
which is the most childishuit ever heard from an adult.
And so I want to pose the question about forgiveness
and letting people slide, specifically our artists, because I think
it's a it's kind of an interesting thing. A lot

(02:16):
of times we just kind of as a community just
go He did some fucked up ship. Yeah, but I
like that album. When the new album comes out, By
the way, Kanye puts this out this week, and he
has an album. He has an album coming out. I
think it's either Friday or next week something like that,
which I find to be convenient.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
No, I didn't know that the album is called Bully
and like about supposed to be like all about positivity.
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Is it going to have Hyle Hitler on it like
his last album? Um, okay, I just just thought I
checked there. Let me read a little bit of Kanye
What's apology or excuse me Yay's apology quote to those
I've hurt again? Just write it, don't You don't need

(03:05):
to qualify it. Twenty five years ago, I was in
a car accident that broke my jaw and caused injury
to the right frontal lobe of my brain. At the time,
the focus was on the visible damage, the fracture, the swelling,
and the immediate physical trauma. The deeper injury, the one
inside my skull went unnoticed. First off, I don't think
he wrote any of this, which is like the point

(03:26):
that pr Yeah, comprehensive scans. Yeah, comprehensive scans not a
terminal of phrase. I imagine Kanye West says a lot.
Comprehensive scans were not done, neurological exams were limited, and
the possibility of frontal lobe injury was never raised. It
wasn't properly diagnosed until twenty twenty three. The medical oversight

(03:49):
caused serious damage to my mental health and led to
my bipolar type one diagnosis. Bipolar disorder comes with its
own defense system, denial, which when you're manic, you don't
think you're sick. You think everyone else is overreacting. You
feel like you're seeing the world more clearly than ever,
when in reality you're losing your grip entirely. Once people

(04:09):
label you as quote crazy, you feel as if you
cannot contribute anything meaningful to the world. It is easy
for people to joke and laugh it off when in
fact there's a very serious, debilitating disease you can die from.
According to the World Health Organization, again to imagine Kanye
of Us sitting down and writing this is hilarious and

(04:30):
Cambridge University. People with bipolar disorder have a life expectency
that is shortened by ten to fifteen years on average
and two to three times higher all cause mortality rate
than the general population. This is on par with a
severe heart disease, type one, diabetes, HIV cancer, all lethal
and fatal if left untreated. I'll just skip down to

(04:52):
some of the other stuff to the black community, which
helped me down through all the things, all the highs
and lows and the darkest times. The Black community is
unquestionably the foundation of who I am, and I'm sorry
to have let you down. I love us. You messed
up for real but okay, yeah, I mean basically talks
about like I found comfort on Reddit forums of all places,

(05:17):
my words as a leader in the community have global
impact and influence. In my mania, I lost complete sight
of that. As I find a new baseline, a new
center through an effective regime of medication, excuse me, regiment
of medication, therapy, exercise, and clean living, I have new
found much need to clarity. I am pouring my energy

(05:39):
into positive, meaningful art, music, clothing design, and other new
ideas to help the world. I'm not asking for sympathy
or free pass, though I aspire to earn your forgiveness.
I write today simply to ask you for your patients,
understanding and money for my new album as I find
my way home with love. I may have editorialized a.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Bit of that.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
What are your thoughts on the papology you're buying it?

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Terrence his album No Okay, look, it might it might
very well be true, right, but does bipolar disorder make
you just a Nazi's I love Hitler, Does it give
you those kind of crazy like those kind of thoughts.
Let me see, let me say the most incendiary shit possible,

(06:26):
just because just to get a I don't know, I
don't know how that works, just to get a rise
out of people, just to be to stay in the news.
I knew, I knew somebody that was bipolar. They didn't
want to be seen as bipolar. They took medication to
help themselves. But you know, they weren't when they had
an episode. They weren't saying crazy shit to just to
get to get a rise out of people. They were

(06:49):
just angry, right, And then they went. They got depressed
every once in a while, but like they didn't. They
weren't doing like slavery was a choice, hild Hitler. They
didn't make a record call Hail Hitler. I don't belie
Like again, it could be, it could be he actually
could have bipolar disorder, but I don't believe that's what
caused all this bullshit. I think he was just, you know,

(07:11):
I think he just wants to keep himself in fucking
in the news. And he did, and then he did
he went too fucking far and lost everything, well not everything,
but you know, so no, I don't believe him, like
he might be he might be bipolar, but fuck this, nigga,
I don't have any I don't have any forgiveness for
anybody that is a Trump supporter, like the end of
the day. Fuck the niggas. I hate them for life.

(07:34):
And that's gonna go into Nicki Mi Nage when we
talked about her. Wow, But yeah, I don't believe this nigga.
I believe he might be bipolar, but I don't believe
this is sincere fuck him?

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Does a timing? Does a timing?

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Of course, he's got an album coming out within a week.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Bro, just wait a couple of months?

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Does this ship every single time an album comes out?
So why the fuck should we believe you? This is
the boy who cried wolf go fuck self, nigga, Like, no, no,
I don't believe you. Sorry, you have fans that will
that will believe you, but like I don't.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
So so I.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Was about to say, you.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Know, I really want to believe him, and you know,
but I really did not know he had an album
coming out and and.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Like like that, like.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
It's a big complete Yeah, it really does.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
It really does.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
If you should have done this maybe like four months ago.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
It was very I was very much prepared to come here,
and initially my thought was, Okay, look, look, I've always
thought that Kanye West had.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Was a little off, uh a typical, right, And I
mean from like from his you know, college dropout.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Days, you know what I mean. He always he always
seemed like the guy that that has a high opinion
of himself but is also insecure and feels the need
to prove himself and you know it. So I've always

(09:16):
thought that he was just kind of off and it
was always kind of sad. And I don't think I'm
the only person that thinks that, which is why Kanye West,
in my opinion, gets forgiven a lot, right, because it's like,
all right, I mean, you know he's trying, you know,
something wrong with the boy, but like he ain't hurting nobody, man,

(09:43):
something wrong with the boy.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
You know, he try.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
And but you know he does it, and he'll he'll
do something like ridiculous and then they'll kind of ask
for forgiveness and it's like all right, man, and like
I get it, but at the same time, like you
gotta you gotta, Yeah, she got straighten up, you know,

(10:09):
like you gotta, Oh, you gotta straighten up, young man,
like you gotta you know, you gotta help yourself because
there's only so many, there's so many. I have a
finite amount of forgiveness for certain people before I look
like a fucking fool. And and and as he got older,

(10:33):
and especially after his mom died, you know, it's like
he snapped, right, And I get it. I'm a mama's
boy too. I love my mama, right, my mother right
and a right, And I would be heartbroken. I will

(10:56):
be heartbroken when she dies. But so I know what
kind of effect that can have on a young man.
But and I felt bad. Really, you wouldn't that happened.
He was already in his thirties.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, but what at the same let's let's not forget
Kanye West is about four or five years old.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Enough, right, but you you you you're right.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
But I get it. I get it, like it don't
matter how old you are.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
And then given the fact that he's given the fact
that he's he ain't right right like his mother was right,
he's neuroetypical, right, thank you? And so I'm like, all right, man,
like I feel bad for you, but you know, then

(11:46):
you start, you start going off the deep end, and look,
you could be conservative, right, I know conservative people. I
don't know whackle conservative. Well, I don't know off the
deep end conservative people.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
But conservative black rappers. I mean, Jas is a Republican?
Is he?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
He Keep that ship right, Just keep that ship to
your fucking self.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I mean, I gotta imagine a lot of rappers are
probably more conservative than you than you think, especially.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
What because I'm money. I I don't want to pay taxes. Again,
that's the only that's the only reason anyone should be
fucking I keep saying this ship taxes and that's it.
What else I don't want to pay taxes? God damn, And.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
No, niggas don't really fuck with guns anymore as.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Of this week, to like some piss, poor fucking reasoning
to just be a conservative.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
But you know, once he started going off the deep end,
and you know, it's only I was. I was ready
to be like, all right, look, I hear your apology.
I hope you take the steps that you need to
take in order to better yourself, and I hope he

(13:02):
understands that it is within the right of the aggrieved
to not forgive him and you just got to sit
with that. Yeah, that was the best thing I could say. Hm.
But knowing this, Nigga got an album coming out. Nah, Yo, man,

(13:23):
I'm done. I'm done.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
It's just one of the wildest movies. I can't, yo,
I can't.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
They gonna find out, like Nigga, we can gonna find out.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
I can't, yo, because like t R was like, you know,
when she she told us she wasn't gonna be on,
she was like, fuck both of them forever. And I'm like, well, damn,
Like man, maybe not fuck him forever, like like fuck
him for right now, but maybe not fucking forever. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I stay with I don't have I'm at the point where,
like zero, I don't have any forgiveness, forgiveness in my
heart for a lot of people at this point because
like yo, I'm not a Christian, So I guess that
might be the reason why I'm just I'm not gonna
do it. You know you're gonna you can only burn
me so many times to try IM all right, that's enough.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
It sounds like a feature, not a.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Right like Clansman outfit.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
He did interviews in it. You know, like, and people
were like you, that's a curious thing. No, he's wearing
a black KKK outfit like and doing interviews like yeah,
and also the Jews are bad. It's like, what the
fuck are we doing right now? Take me seriously, No,
I won't look my My attitude is I I have

(14:39):
my my thoughts, like politically, and then I have my
thoughts as a fan of music. I haven't heard ship
from Kanye West that I thought was worth a fuck
to me personally in ten years. I don't give a
shit about whatever your next album is. I don't like
all that like overly like gospel ship that he does.
I'm not a fan of it all right, Like I'm out,

(15:02):
I don't care as it Like politically, you must think
I'm a fucking moron, like to back this ship, like
absolutely not. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
You want to run over there and do your your ship.
You want to be in the White House dapping Trump
up wearing a hat and how the hat gave you

(15:25):
power and all this other stupid ship. You're like Superman, Hey,
bro go ahead, stay over there. You got all these douchebags.
Uh Andrew Tate and his brother and sneak o and
curvicular or whatever clavicle or whatever the fuck. That kid's
name is the kid who was like low dose Yeah,

(15:46):
Aiden Russ, all these dumb talking about, Yeah, there's a
there's a new one of these these douchebags. He does
he takes meth. He does low dose meths so he
can have like like sunken cheeks or whatever. He's like
these one of these looks Max and guys. I saw
him getting a fucking ass kicked in a jiu jitsu thing.
It was great because they can't find none. So all

(16:09):
of these guys were fresh and or fit one of
those fucking losers. They're all in a limo recently singing
Kyle Hitler or the Kanye West song. This is what
this is what you you brought like, this is what
you created. And now these fucking somehow rainbow coalition of

(16:29):
white supremacs make that makes sense. This is music that
they vibe to, music that you made that is hate,
hateful music towards the people that look like you because
you thought in your manic state, or maybe you just thought,
I'm just gonna do this shit. I think it's a
little bit of both. To be honest, I agree with Terrence.

(16:51):
I don't think that people that are manic are like
I'm gonna be a Nazi now, not really how that works. Right.
You may think you're right about a lot of shit
and and you know, delusions of grand or stuff like that,
but nobody's like, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm
gonna get a diamond crust a swastika and I'm gonna
sell shirts that swastikas on it.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
It's not It's not.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
A common thing in the bipolar community. Okay, So I'm
not I'm not using that. I'm not gonna let anybody
use that as an excuse you want to say, like, hey,
you're erratic behavior like coming on stage and interrupting Taylor
Swift or whatever. I can believe any of that shit
is is you know, bipolar shit. I can believe that,
And I'm okay with forgiving somebody about that, but not

(17:32):
all this other shit that you did. Like you're allowed
to be conservative, it's nothing wrong with that. I don't
have to agree with you, but I don't have to
forgive you. Right, this is this is like fair enough,
like this is this is a very batman begin ship like,
I don't I'm not gonna kill you, but I don't
have to save you either, so I'm not I don't
accept your apology, especially off the back of knowing you
have an album coming out, so that really to me,

(17:55):
what it says is what he thinks of his audience.
That that's what and and to very specifically be like
black people, y'all held me down, and you know, you know,
I know, you know, you guys are the backbone of
my career and all this other stuff. That's because you
think we're fucking idiots that you can just play in
our face, as the young kids like to say, and

(18:17):
then say all this dirty shit and then go, you know,
I still you know, I love us for real and
then we just go, okay, we're back on board. Nwh
fuck that fuck that you want to run over there
to them, Oh is it not working out for you
because now they don't want anything to do with you
now that you're super fucking crazy. And also, shit, stay
over there, stay over there, don't let us get in

(18:38):
your way. And the same thing for Nicki Minaj, because
guess what's we heard all this manga shit is gonna
bloat right in your fucking face. I know you're trying
to stop yourself from getting deported and losing your house.
Let's get real, because that's the real fucking reason. But
that's your fucking problem. When all this shit blows up
in your face and your next album goes fucking plastic,
don't come call into us. You You fucking over the

(18:58):
gay and black community. That's your whole fucking audience. That's
your whole audience. Who do you think gonna buy your albums?
Erica Kirk? Gon buy your albums? You think Christians are
gonna these white, white supremacist Christians, Christian nationalists are gonna
buy the next fucking Nicki Minaj album, you can believe?

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Kirk said her music was fucking trash exactly.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
She was a terrible role model for black girl.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
He said, And is she up here? Like, well, your
wife show is great.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
I love Donald Trump. I don't know, like what's up?
Like she's I don't know what the going on? You said,
she don't want she doesn't want to get deported. Uh
and she doesn't want.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
To, but like she got that, she got that. What
is he gonna do for that? Good? Yayo?

Speaker 4 (19:44):
What's going What is what is what does she think
that Trump regime is going to do?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
For Trump?

Speaker 5 (19:51):
He gave he gave her a gold card that that
that gold set.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Five million dollar card. Does she pay five million dollars?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
She got that kind of money anymore? Probably?

Speaker 5 (20:03):
I mean, ain't giving that shit away.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
He's like, I want something in return? What are you
giving this nigga in return? Yeah, because like, your endorsement
don't mean.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Shit, fix flat cheeks.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
What the fuck? At this point, her endorsement doesn't mean
anything because like again she's fucked over. The black black
folks that like her. They are still like much like Maga,
there are still fucking barbs that just the lunatics. Like
I said, they just do what they love anything that
she does, and it's fucking bizarre and it just be
like the LGBT committing I'm like, what's wrong with y'all?

(20:38):
Or then maybe just buy accounts out. At this point,
I don't know who what's real and what's fake anymore.
I don't know what planet we live on anymore. I
don't I don't get anything. This whole world is like
the upside down bizarro fucking world. But yeah, she's but
she's always been a fucking asshole like she's been. She's
been a bitch for like the last fifteen years. Yeah,
that's what because like.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
And she doesn't like she doesn't like that any female
artist is getting any shine, Like instead of collaborativebor.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
She did a collaboration with fucking megde Stallion and then
all of a sudden, like a year and a half later,
Fuck that bitch. I'm like, what's going on? She fucking
came at Little Kim and Little Kim ether at her,
remy my ether at her, and this has been going
on for like fifteen years, fifteen twenty years. Yeah, and

(21:26):
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
And Coke binge and starts tweeting like.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
A crier, and she starts wilding out. She's like, fucking
rock Nation is trying to destroy me. I'm like, they
probably don't give a fuck about you, Like what does care?
Make some music? Yo? Make some music? And at this point,
I don't know if you're gonna be able to do that.
He's gonna buy it, Like them niggas that you're talking to,
that you talked to this morning are not gonna buy
your shit. They don't even probably know any of your records.

(21:51):
So this whole weird ass thing where you just don't
want to get deported. I don't know if you have
something where you want your fucking husband to get his
thing e sponged, which you can't because that's a fucking
state case. Her brother, I don't know if he's even
in this country, is also a state case. He's a pedophile.
Her brother, her husband's a sex offender, registered sex offender,
and her brother's a pedophile. Oops, both state cases. So

(22:15):
like Trump can't do it about any of those. Well,
you know, Trump is also a pedophile, like like, boy,
you really do like metaphiles keep hanging out around like
pedophile circles. It's got a while. What's up? What's up
with you? You need some some therapy? She might need therapy.
Maybe something happened to when she was younger. I'm not
if it. If it did, that's not funny. It's terrible.

(22:35):
But something's wrong, you know, And this don't make no
fucking sense all of a sudden. She's a Christian that
cares about people in Africa, bitch, like, I've never heard
you talk about them ever, here's.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
You don't you don't give a fuck? I know, we
know she you don't give a fuck.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
About these people, but just wants to belong at this point.
And I don't know why choosing the wrong fucking people. Man,
I don't like this shit. They're like the worst people
on the planet right now, and I.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Don't I don't understand not being able to see the
force for the trees. You don't see this shit coming,
You don't you don't see the tide fucking turning right,
Like I understand being dumb enough, like in maybe like
in the run up to the end of the election,
like oh shit, he gonna win, or like right after
he won, like you jump on board. Nigga, We're a

(23:28):
year in and shit is not going well. You have
like there's a whole thing that's happening on Instagram. I've
noticed of all these people who are like non political,
all of a sudden, like like especially in the fitness space,
all these people like all coming out like fuck Ice
and all this sudden shit fuck Donald Trump. And you're like, hey,
I don't really know me talk about policy. All these

(23:50):
people are all of sudden to come out. The wave
is shifting. How are you so stupid? You don't fucking
see this ship? Nigga, just open your phone, like people
are mass always on.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
It, but like she has her fucking fanatics. All she
does is look at pay attention to her fanatics and
people she's in beef with. If you look at your
fanatics all day, everything is fine, everything's perfect, you can't
do anything wrong. But if you actually look around and
see what the fuck is going on, you're like, oh,
these people hate my fucking gusts, Like what am I doing?
What am I doing? And if you do see that

(24:21):
and you still decide to go with that side, then
I don't know who you are as a person, Like
I look at you as less than I see it
as less than I see all of these people that
support that bullshit as less than I'm better than them
as a human being. We're a I don't just because

(24:43):
they're fucking terrible. Like, there's no fucking way you can
see any of this shit and be like this is cool.
There's no way that you can be a good human being.
We were talking before we got on. We were talking
about what was his name, Alex Preddy. The guy had
a shot. He was a nurse. If you're a nurse,
there's something inherently in you that wants to help people, right,
I couldn't do it. I like helping people, but I
couldn't be no fucking nurse himself. All kind of crazy.

(25:08):
If you become a nurse, you know, you got you
have to have something inside you that wants to help.
And he was a nurse. They got shot ten times,
and people are trying to spin this like, oh, he
was a fucking terrorist. You're a You're a terrible human being,
and for you to be a part of that, you
have to have no humanity, you have no empathy. I

(25:32):
I can't. I can't wrap my head around that. I
can't wrap my head around anybody just being cool with
any of this ship. It's just it's insane to me.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
So so like I I don't agree with it, but
I I can understand, like your average dipshit maga voter
at this point still supporting it because it's a sunken
cost fallacy, right, Like like, nigga, you don't get off

(26:01):
the ship's on fire, They're like, I know, but like
it might make it the shore. Nigga, you're in the
middle of the ocean, like best of luck. So like
I can understand like the dumb mentality of like that
sunken cost fallacy. I do not understand it from people
who have all of these means, and you absolutely are

(26:21):
not required to sign on to any of this shit, right,
Like again, it's a year into this shit and Nicki
Minaj's like, hey, I have a thought, guys, and people
are like, oh, what's Minaja to say? I think Donald
Trump's great? And it's like, bitch, are you not watching
what the fuck has happened the last nine and a
half months?

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Where are you?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
And you know? And her stupid ass is just like, yeah, no,
I agree with this, you know what? Cool. I'm actually
happy because I like when people tell you exactly who
they are, so there is no like I wonder if
she You don't have to wonder anymore. She on stage
with Erica Kirk. She's on stage with Donald Trump holding
his grizzled old dead hand today, right, like good, good,

(27:01):
hang out with each other, like good, tie yourself as
tightly to that ship as you can, because when your
fucking next album comes out, I don't want to hear
his ship about. You know, I heard it was pretty good,
but I don't give a fuck. Even Joe Budden was like,
I'm off that ship. I don't want to hear anything
from Nicki Minaj.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
That's what he said.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Like he didn't even like, well, you know, like no,
he was like, no, I don't really give a fuck,
like not interested at all in anything she does from
now on. Good stick to that.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
And he's not the best person in the world. No,
but that's you got Joe Budden talking about something like, nah,
I don't fuck with that bitch no more. You you'd
have fucked all the way.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
All the way up right, So hey, man, like that's
on you. You want to ride. You want to ride
that fucking shit, right it You're like, go ahead, see
how it works out for you. But don't come to
black people asking for forgiveness. Don't write your excuse me,
don't get your PR team to write. Write some fucking
thing in the wall the Wall Street Journal trying to

(27:59):
popologize to black people so you can try to have
snowball us to sell albums. Now fuck you. Fuck you
call those people. That's who you ran to call those
people like.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
You don't want to see black independent media when she
when she eventually gets burned by these motherfuckers. I don't
want to see black independent media platform in her I
don't want to see it.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Oh, I made a mistake.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
No, I'm good now, fucking you know exactly what you did.
Fuck ad it. I hate that shit, man, I hate it.
Like we're going to have such and such on there's like, Nah,
they fucked all the way up, like you don't you
don't know, stay over there, like you said, stay over there.
I don't want to hear that shit. No Moore, Yeah,
we're too fucking nice. We're way too nice.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Way too nice.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, I mean, because like you know, the second all
the shit blows up or she has a new album out,
they'll be you know, Hot ninety seven or all these
other radio stations, breakfast clubs. Oh we interview with Nick
you're not now, I don't do that. Don't do that,
like she shipped all over the black community for siding
with these people. She shipped all over all these black
and brown communities all over the country and LGBT communities

(29:05):
and everything else. They'll let us stay over there. Who
is going to help you? Nobody sell your next album?
And by the way, if you another black artist, what
the fuck are you working with her?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Why?

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Why?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh you want to do my you want to do
a song with me, I don't want to do shit
with you.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Go fuck yourself.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Isolate these people and teach them a lesson. You never
teach them a lesson if you get mad at them
and then go buy their product. They don't learn anything.
Kanye learned because he put out a fucking album and
it would sold like nine nine copies, and he was like,
oh shit.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Number one.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Last I thought it did really bad. Oh really, Oh okay.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
You wouldn't number one for two fucking weeks.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
This is the that's insane. That's insane. I thought I
thought his last one did bad. So yeah, if you
want these people to stop doing this shit, hit them
where it hurts their wallet. That's the only thing they understand.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
Yeah, I mean, you know, at this point, like I
don't know why people were from celebrity they do. I
you know, I don't get it, but I don't know.
I've never been a Nicki Minaj fan, you know, I

(30:20):
don't know music like that.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
But you know, her.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Voice always seemed annoying to me, so I really didn't
gravitate to her. But I'm not surprised that you know,
a rich foreigner is conservative. But but you don't have
to be a you don't have to be a kunted
about it.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
She was a kid.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
That's the other part that doesn't really make a lot
of sense. Like she's been here since she was a child.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
I mean, but like again, like I mean, but like
you know that she's probably raised that way, you know
what I mean, Like, I'm not I'm not surprised. I'm
not again, I'm not surprised that this this rich, you know,
black person who was not born here and you know,
is conservative. I am surprised that she's kind of wacko conservative,

(31:21):
and I'm disappointed that she's an asshole about it, like
just being like, I know, that's another one who is
probably going to play the mental illness card when when,
when the time comes, and because it's an easy card
to play, remember what we did blink twice and and

(31:42):
Channing Tatum was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Mental illness is the new I'm sorry, right, because again,
we are very nice and we don't want to make
fun of people with neurological difference, is right, But the

(32:03):
wrong people are going to abuse that and and she's
going to be one of them. And I believe it
for Kanye West because he's always seemed off. I don't
believe it for her because he's always seems like a bitch.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Look, I don't.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
That apology.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Here's the thing I don't. I don't necessarily think it's
I don't think it's I don't think it's appropriate to
call her a bitch. I think they're way meaner thing.
I don't mean.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
I do mean to call her aunt though, get the.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Understand nuance thinking. I don't think that's a wrong I
heard that this weekend.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
You can't understand.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
This goes right under the right.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
It's very good that I should be able to say it.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I should be able to say People in Australia say
it all the time.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
So I mean he's the right way. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
It's just it's just about just correct usage. It's not wrong.
So no, but I look, I think she's a piece
of shit. I honestly do. I think I've always thought
she came off as kind of an asshole. I really did.
I still stand by I don't think she's had any
songs that have been better than her part on Monster.
I still stand by that. I know people get mad

(33:31):
when I say that. I don't care. Look, I just
to me. I cannot imagine being a person of color
and seeing all this shit like Terrence said, and just
being like, yeah, no, this is all fun. You're talking
like her entire argument is she's now on board because
she's a Christian. Yo. They're literally killing people in the streets.

(33:55):
They're literally ripping families apart. And you're like, yeah, but
this fictional problem about Christians in Nigeria, bitch, there's Christians
in America.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Like, what are you talking?

Speaker 4 (34:07):
You want to know what interesting thing? Yeah you're not
Nigerian and you're coming Trinidad or whatever. But they want
the most interesting thing about all of this, like, you're Christian?
You know what nation? Do you know what religion? Most
Hispanic people are, right, they're Catholic. They're all Christians. They're Catholics.
They go to church on Sunday, they do all that

(34:29):
ship and they're really really do and they're real Christians.
They will help you. They like niggas, They will help you.
They will give you to show off their back if
they can, yep. And all they want to do those
they just want to work and just live their life. Man,
that's it.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
They sold Christian. They see Jesus in knots of wood
like it like and and fucking uh toast they see
Christ like.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
They name their kids Jesus for God's sake, right there, They're.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Way more Christian. You white nationalists, motherfuckers. I don't know
what the fuck y'all got going on. Y'all are just
the devil. Y'a niggas are evil, but yeah, like they
are better than they're better than you also, but like
they're not white, right, you know what you want to
get rid of them. They work harder than you. They're
not taking the jobs you want, but they work harder

(35:23):
than you. They're just better people. And you know, white
people to the devil. Yeah, that's it, the devil they are.
I'm sorry. Look, your white folks that listen to y'all
are cool. But the rest of y'all, motherfucker the devils. Yeah,
a lot of your people fucking up like y'all put
us in this situation. Your your uncles and your aunts

(35:43):
and your cousins and your brothers, y'all. They put us
in this fucking situation, and you should shun them for it,
because good God man.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, bring back shining. I agree shunning, But look I
feel like Rihanna.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Everybody be like Rihanna. She's a billion ashy minds her
own fucking business, and she grieves clothing that's very comfortable
for people of color and like larger people, and she's
just she's just a nice person that'll cut you out. Yeah,
she will cut your social media, which is great. And
I got some stuff, some Fenty underwear. It's nice, bro.

(36:25):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
They don't have Fenty down here, so I don't have anything.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Sorry, you can order it, gol s got a website.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I can't order things. Here's fifteen years to get it.
I mean, it literally takes like a month to get
a letter from the United States here, which is nuts.
So yeah, it's I don't know, man, I hope that
we stick to this ship. I mean I did look up,
uh to your point that his last album, like It

(36:57):
almost was his highest selling album of all time. I
mean most of it was streaming, but still that's nuts
to me, Like in in the wake of all of
the dirty shit he said. And by the way, that's
not like, that's not us listening to that. Right, we
all know that, right, white people are the reason that
most rap artists are are very much very popular. That

(37:19):
says a lot about the white community as he's saying
all this horrendous shit, and they're just like, I'll listen
to it.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
That's fucked up.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
So yeah, look, I we cannot We cannot affect what
white people do. I wish that we could. So they're
gonna do what they're gonna do. But we do not
have to forgive these people. Let these people go into
the dust bin of fucking history. As far as I'm concerned,
they're both pieces of shit, and they're both trying to
profit off of our ability to forgive people over and

(37:49):
over and over again. And you know what, I'm tired
of that shit. Nah fuck that make make black people
forgiving you make that ship a little bit more difficult,
and for these two make it impossible. Oh he's got
to really makes me mad.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
That ship really makes me mad. I did not know
he had a fucking.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
No. It's like super offensive, Like it's really like when
you think about it, it's really it's really like.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
Fuck you bro, what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (38:20):
All right?

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Man?

Speaker 4 (38:21):
All right? Yeah, so pr man, he didn't like, he
didn't write that ship. Second of all, like we're not
dumb like some of us are. Dumb some of people.
Some people are gonna buy it, and that's you know,
that's on them. You still want to support this nigga
if you believe him. Again, I do believe he's got
some kind of issue he's got. He's probably his bipolar.
I believe that. But I think that don't make you

(38:42):
a fucking nazi. That's a bunch of bullshit. I don't
want to I don't want to hear that. So we'll see,
we'll see how the album does considering you know, the
state of the world we're in now. It's supposed to
be positivity and people don't want positivity.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Nah, I keep your own this shit. Yeah, do all
your positivity shit over there. I don't go a fuck
fuck you. I'm super negative right now. How about that?
And look, I'll just give you a little bit of
a little statistic here of how things are going, uh
in the country. There was an election. There was a
special election in Minnesota, I think yesterday or the day

(39:22):
before yesterday. You know how it's like, oh, whatever percentage
of the vote is in, right, like, so this person's leading,
there's like sixty percent of the vote in or what
have you? I thought I was reading a headline incorrectly,
I thought it was saying that so and so Democrat
beat a Republican with ninety five percent of the vote.
In I was like, okay, who cares like they won?

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Great?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Did you get another five percent later and it'll probably
shake out the same. No, the Democrat won ninety five
percent of the vote. That's how things are going. That's
how they're going.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Of them.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
That Nigga's won, like, that's not what she always be
it should need to be, but that's how That's how
pissed people are. That's how pissed people are. And you
decided you're gonna jump on to that boat, all right,
best of luck.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I think the independent won like one percent and then
the Republican one like four percent.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
So yeah, that's how keep that.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, I agree, keep it all right. That is it
for us for this previous episode. We will see you
guys next week for She's All That again. Can watch
it on Netflix. She's gotta have it. I'm sorry, isn't
that your favorite movie? Terrence from the fucking nineties?

Speaker 4 (40:39):
That can't.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Try to deflect?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Sorry, I'm sorry that I sorry I deflected the wrong
white teenage movie. My bad. Yes, that's crazy. Uh, she's
got to have it. The nineteen eighty six film again.
It's on Netflix. We will see us next week there.
But yeah, yeah yeah, come

Speaker 3 (41:09):
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