December 11, 2025 • 35 mins
In Hour 1 of the show, Jon is joined by Daveed Gartenstein-Ross to talk about how AI can be used in the medical field, entertainment, and even our government.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I get off. How dare we speak Merry Christmas? How
dare we.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let me begin by wishing each and every one of
you are very merry Christmas, Happy New Year, all of
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
The Trump administration buys a fleet of deportation jets. I'll
give you the number of ICE arrests so far in
the Twin Cities coming up in just a moment, as we.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Embark on our Tuesday adventure.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thursday Adventure, No idea why Tuesday landed in my head?
Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty one oh three
five FM from the sixty five to one Carpet plus
Next Day Install Studios. Governor Tim Walls big mad at Trump,
saying that Trump just wants a show with all these
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arrests that are being made regarding illegal immigration, which is
really quite comical. I posted this on X before I
started the show this morning. Walls is saying that Trump
just wants a show. Considering that Walls is a walking
blank show. I think it's apropos. It's really oh, I
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don't even know what the word is. I'll say just stupid.
The Democrats are very very good. We've talked about this before,
and we did last week as well.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But the Democrats are.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Really really good at suddenly acting as if this thing
that's happening it's the first time that it's happened, like
this is unprecedented, something that is relatively normal and benign
in the grand scheme of things, in this case, arresting
of US citizens.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
That happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
US citizens get arrested every single day, those that go
and break the law.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But the way you have.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Governor Tim Walls, our Democrat elected officials, the idiots that
are running the city of Minneapolis, suddenly now a citizen
was arrested. Well, yeah, they were obstructing law enforcement. We
have another one this morning. Yesterday we focused on the
white liberal activists Siue Tinsure and her bravery. Today we
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have another individual who was arrested. Now had a press conference,
had the police chief, Brian O'Hara, the Minneapolis Man Baby
mayor Mom Jeans, Jacob Frye all out talking about how
concerned they are. You got the DFL and Governor Tim
Walls posting their petty little comments online there were arresting citizens.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, that happens. It happens every damn day, But.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They act like this is some unprecedented thing. No FAFO,
It's quite that simple. We'll talk about that in detail
coming up in the eight o'clock hour. We got a
lot of ground to cover today, So Representative Elliott Engen
will be joining the in studio coming up at seven
thirty this morning. Apparently he has brand new fraud to
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share with us on the show, something we haven't heard
about as of yet, so I'm looking forward to that again.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That'll happen at seven thirty.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
How are the investigations on the federal level into Minnesota's fraud?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
How are those progressing?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You had Doctor Oz, doctor mement Oz, the CMS administrator,
last week saying that his office has never seen the
people working in his office that have been there longer
than he has have never seen anything like what we're
currently dealing with here in Minnesota. And they're providing weekly updates. Well,
doctor Oz is going to be joining us at seven
o'clock this morning to share with us the latest as
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it relates to those updates. What kind of help coordination
have they been receiving compliance with Governor Tim Walls his
administration government officials here in Minnesota. We'll find out at
seven o'clock this morning, here on Twin City's News Talk
and David garten Stein Ross, you're AI analyst and expert.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
He'll be joining us coming up at six point thirty
this morning.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Secretary of War Pete Hegseth has picked its AI platform
as a fighting force. Will let you know which platform
they're going with, concerns in Medicare's new AI experiment regarding
authorization for medical procedures, and also why almost half of
gen Z wants the AI to run the government in
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how that is absolutely terrifying. So those are a few
items that we'll talk about with David garten Stein Ross,
and of course he'll answer any AI related questions that
you have via the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
App this morning.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, be sure to
leave us a talkback. We'll get to those coming up
in just a few minutes here on Twin City's News Talk.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Those are brought to you by Lyndahl Realty.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Also give you details a little bit more details regarding
the Department of Homeland Security signing a contract of nearly
one hundred and forty million dollars to purchase six Bowing
seven thirty seven planes for deportations and that number of
individuals that have already been arrested here in the Twin
Cities since December first. So i'll give you the details
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of that as we navigate all of their relevant stories
relating to Minnesota and how we continue to dominate the
national media headlines, although a lot of the liberal networks
are completely ignoring everything that's going on, and that's not
of any surprise. Be that as it may, we continue
to be the number one story as it relates to
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fraud here in Minnesota. And it really is interesting to
see just how people are so shocked.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And they should be.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
We just become so used to it, so I find
that highly entertaining. I also find you highly entertaining. So
we'll get to those comments coming up from the iHeartRadio app.
Your emails Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. Glad you're with
the show this morning. Don't go anywhere. You're listening to
Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty and one oh
three five FM.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
The what's called the Trump derangement problem? Have you heard
about that problem?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I saw a social post yesterday of a woman in
Ohio making the claim that what's happening in Minnesota is
happening there, almost identically, involving the same community members. There's
zero coverage of this going on in the legacy media.
There are no coincidences when it comes to corruption in government.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, I sat down for that podcast conversation with Sarah
Westall earlier this week, and she was talking about other
states or they're dealing with similar issues Colorado to be specifically,
wherein you had individuals Venezuelans there taking over apartment complexes,
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wreaking havoc and similar arguments in that community in Colorado.
We're hearing here regarding the Somali community, and we'll be
dealing with this and talking about it in much more
detail a little bit later on in the show. It
is Twin Cities News Talk from the sixty five to
one Carpet plus Next Day Install Studios David Gartenstein Ross
coming up in a few minutes. We'll talk a little ai.
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The Department of Homeland Security is going to shift from
relying solely on charter services to operating its own aircraft.
After Congress approved a major funding increase for Trump's border
and immigration agenda. They authorized one hundred and seventy billion
for immigration and border operations over the next four years
as part of the GOP tax bill, and the plane
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funding is coming from that package. Two sources familiar with
the contract and records were reviewed by The Washington Post
said that ICE may have broader plans for the aircraft
borders are Tom Holmes said the administration has made an
overall nationwide about five hundred and seventy nine thousand removals.
DHS data shows that nearly sixty six immigrants are currently
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in federal detention now. Locally, since December one, ICE has
arrested more than four hundred people here in the Twin Cities.
And again, these are individuals that were here illegally already,
but also committed other crimes domestic abuse, assaults, sex offenders
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of minors, no less, these are the individuals, these four hundred,
These are the individuals and the charges that they have
that I mentioned that these performative activist theater actors are
out there defending that our leadership ignores while they try
to frame this whole issue as citizens are being arrested,
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citizens are being detained. Yeah, it's not as I mean,
it's a thing, but it's not a thing if you're
legally here, if you break the law and then you
get arrested.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You're a citizen that got arrested. I'm sorry, I'm being
really sarcastic.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
It just.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
People act so willfully ignorant over these situations.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The people that post online, they get all up in
arms in this.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
They're not they're not using any level of just not
even critical thinking, just thinking. The story that we have
that will cover starting at eight o'clock today. I would
get to it earlier, but like I said, we have
a lot of guests coming up and things already planned,
so we'll have plenty of time to talk about this
coming up at eight o'clock. But Somali man says he's
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an American citizen and speaks out after ICE detainment. The
Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara expresses his frustration with ICE agents,
who says, he who said they detained a US citizen.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And what's hysterical about.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
This is that they interchange American and Somali throughout the
core of talking about this in whichever way is most
beneficial to go and perpetuate their narratives. So in some circumstances, oh,
he's an American citizen being detained, and other circumstances when
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it's more beneficial for Democrats to go and focus on
him being Somali. They say, the way, he's a Somali
man taken into custody, but he's here legally, and people they.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Just they just they lap it up.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
They don't bother giving a shred of critical thinking, going well, well, yeah,
I mean he got in the way of law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
You can see the video.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
There's video of this individual getting in the way of
law enforcement. It's like that any yesterday's U Tensure. Well,
you know, I was just standing there and suddenly they
tackled and arrested me.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
No, they told you to get back. You didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You weren't listening to what law enforcement had to say.
They don't know what kind of danger you're going to pose.
They haven't padded you down. They don't know if you
have if you have any weapons on you, or what
you're capable of for crying out loud, you've out in
the dead of night to act like some citizen superhero.
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The Ice agents know who they're arresting. The individual was
a criminal. I'll have the story later on this morning
from Fox News. They lay out the details of the
background of the individual that was being arrested that this
woman was there to go and defend.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So they know.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
The background of the individual being arrested, and so you
have people that are there defending that individual. Well what
are the people they're defending that individual capable of.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So yeah, if you get in their way, they're going
to detain you. And that's what happened with this dude,
this move.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Bashir says, he showed identification multiple times.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Great, thanks for letting law enforcement know who you were.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It doesn't change the fact that if you watch the
video you can clearly see he was not cooperating. Why
because he wanted to get arrested. He wanted to get
detained so he can do exactly what they're doing now,
so he can be used upon in the liberal scheme
to create this narrative to perpetuate the idea of what
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Governor Tim Walls has said, this is the Gestapo. It's
I think it's all just performative theater. I'm gonna hold
off on Tom Homan. The comment that I have from
him talking on Fox News is him looking into investigating
Ilhan Omar. So I'm gonna stick a pin in that
and we'll get back to it a little bit later
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on David Gartenstein Ross is gonna be joining us here
in just a moment on Twin Cities News Talk. If
you have any AI related questions as we deviate just
a bit, you can get those in on the iHeartRadio app.
The Department of War has selected Google's Gemini to serve
as the Department's first enterprise AI deployed across its international platform.
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And how worried should we be that almost half of
gen z wants AI to run the government. Although right now,
between artificial intelligence and Governor Tim Wall's running Minnesota, I'm
probably gonna default to artificial intelligence because it is.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Clearly smarter than Governor Tim Walls is good morning, and
I love your show.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
In an oddball away, the Minnesota government is being run
by artificial intelligence because it certainly is a normal intelligence.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'll put that in the running for talk Back of
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My name is John just is very pleased to welcome
back to the show. My AI analyst and expert CEO
AT Expert Theerry David Gartenstein Ross, Good morning, my friend.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
How are we doing this morning?
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Good morning, John, doing great and it's always great to
join you.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
We have this We're going to talk about it later
on in the show. We've been discussing it a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
It's going to be a big issue next year, this
new paid family medical leave program, and I won't get
into the details of it now it relates to AI.
I wanted to ask you something as we start off
our conversation, but with pay family medical leave, it's basically
going to impact every single taxpayer here and working taxpayer
here in Minnesota, from you know, the employer down to
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the employee, even people that aren't working. It's interesting to
me because we talk about AI, and whenever I prep
for our conversation, I'm reminded that AI really is also
touching every single facet of our of our lives, and
I still don't think a lot of people have really.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Caught up to that fact yet.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
The question I wanted to ask you is we dive
into a couple of these stories though, is do you
think it'll largely go unnoticed for people like other technological advancements,
or do you think that people will begin to realize
at some point just how much AI is impacting all
different facets of our society.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm just curious if you feel like it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Absorbed with the current technology, or if you think it
will be like to the forefront of the conversation moving forward.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
That's a wonderful question. I think there will be a
shift in how people view it. That it starts with
skepticism over whether AI will fundamentally touch all aspects of
our lives, and you and I have talked through some
of those skeptical reactions, and then suddenly there's a shift
and everybody will say, oh, yeah, of course, it is
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as though this was to be expected all along. That's
typically how I see people process things that are this
fundamentally transformative.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I'm really curious one of the things that I'm most
interested in seeing. And this is just more of a
statement than it is a question, But feel free to respond,
you know, I'm really curious to see what people's reaction
will be to those areas where it's clear that AI
has made an impact. And I'll speak to pop culture
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for just a moment. That's what's kind of on my mind.
And I continue to watch these new videos that are
that are made on an almost weekly basis, and every
single week it seems like there's some new advancement being
made wherein what we're watching is a little bit longer,
it's a little bit more detailed, it's more intricate, it's
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harder to tell whether or not it's real or not.
And it really is getting to this, to this point
where I'm very interested to see whether or not people
end up rejecting, you know, AI in our in our
entertainment space, or whether or not they end up embracing it.
And I guess that plays into a lot of what
we talk about already, But that's what I'm most interested in,
sort of the the unanswerable questions right now that only
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time will give us the answer to.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
De v Yeah, I agree with that, and I think
there's there's a lot of unknownes. I mean, we can
we have analogies, right An analogy would be computer generated
imagery CGI. You are old enough to remember what Terminator
Too came out, yep, and you know that movie was
mind blowing to people at the time.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Right People talk about.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
How the evil Terminator melted through a windshield and you
couldn't even tell where the special effects were because it
was CGI. And after that, throughout the nineteen nineties there's
discussion of you know, where CGI was particularly good. CGI
was something we noticed today. You know, we watch a
movie and we have no idea if the beautiful landscape
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we're looking at is something that was actually filmed or
if it's something that was simply entirely a creation of
a computer. Now, the big difference with the AI video,
as you're talking about is, for the first time, humans
are basically entirely taken out of the loop of the
creative process, except in small.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Ways, and that's huge.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Now, last week, what of your listeners her husband and
I actually moved my email her at some point, but
her husband is an artist for comics cartoons, and I
was worried about, like, what the impact is there. You know,
for humans, we have to really shift our conception of
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what our role is in the economic process and the
process of creation. And I don't say this is though,
that's you know, a good thing that you know, we
should embrace our new AI overlords. It's simply, you know,
the way things inevitably are at this point. Sure, AI
has gotten out of the box and moved forward so
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quickly that I just don't see anybody being able to
slow it down.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well, speaking of the terminator to vide gartan Stein Ross,
that kind of leads into the first story I want
to talk about with you. The Department of War has
selected Google's Gemini to serve as the Department's first enterprise
AI deployment across its internal platform. Gemini for Government is
the embodiment of American AI excellence, according to the Department
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of War and their public statement, placing unmatched analytical and
creative power directly into the hands of the world's most
dominating a fighting force. So tongue firmly plannet in chic
or maybe not divide. Is this the first step towards
Skynet becoming self aware, taking over our military systems like
Whopper in wargames, and wiping out humanity to make way
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for our AI robot overlords.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I feel like the first step was taken long ago,
so no, it's not the first step. Just to be
clear about this, what Cheveni is going to be used
for is unclassified work, not for classified work, so it's
not going to be at least here a part of
the kil chain or directly involved in combat operations.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Instead.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
The kind of tasks that it will tackle include summarizing
policy handbooks, compliance checklists, the kind of asked that AI
is very good at. This is something which will make
the Department of War more efficient, which is overall a
good thing. Concerns obviously about AI becoming self aware, becoming
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humanities overlord and killing us all.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Also, do you remain.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Let's go here Medicare's new AI experiment. I have this
piece out of the Minnesota Reformer, sparking alarm among doctors
and lawmakers. In January, the Federal Centers from Medicine and
Medicaid Services, and as a matter of fact, the CMS administrator,
doctor memment Oz, is going to be joining me at
seven o'clock this morning to talk about the investigations into
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fraud here in Minnesota. But in January, CMS said they're
going to be launching the Wasteful and Inappropriate Services Reduction
Model to test AI powered prior authorizations to certain health
services for Medicare patients in six states. The administration rolled
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out this new WISER program, as the acronym goes, that
will require prior authorizations only for certain services and prescriptions
for the centers of Medicare and Medicaid services that they
have identified as particularly vulnerable to fraud.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Waste, abuse, and inappropriate use.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
This seems to be something along the lines of what
we've talked about quite a bit before, of this embracing
of the AI technology, but also the need to have
the human element still involved in the decision making process.
Needless to say, there are some concerns among doctors and
lawmakers over whether or not AI can be trusted to
determine whether or not these different medical services are needed
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or not.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
What are your.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Thoughts based off of what you've seen in AI relating
to this particular program or just in general assisting with
doctors in providing older individual services like this.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
I was speaking the other day with the higher up
in a nonprofit that does work on try to combat
political polarization. Will assemble focus groups in different states to
talk about a variety of hot button issues, and what
she was telling me is that one of the issues
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that one of the issues where you cannot tell people's
political perspective is health insurance because of how personal it is,
right Like, you can't tell if someone is you know,
is you know, uh ultra maga or woke or you know,
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middle of the road or whatnot. Because everybody has their
own experiences with health insurance. This combines a couple of
things that people don't like. It combines prior authorization with
a decision maker who won't necessarily be responsive, and so
it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. One
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can think of all of the problems, but generally speaking,
we do know people will be upset at then fairly
or not, and so it'll be interesting to see how
it goes. But to me, the point that people's views
of healthcare health insurance don't track with their political views
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is an interesting one that I think we'll see it
play here.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
One aspect of this, I'm curious about AI sort of
assisting in and I'll use a personal, you know, experience
that I just went through. So this was a I
don't know, a month and a half ago, maybe two
months ago now, I had tripped going up the stairs
into my kitchen and I was holding a bowl at
the time.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I was wearing some slippers.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
They just slipped and I ended up nailing my right
knee right at the top edge of the stair and
I had this pteller bursts. I had this massive, massive,
you know, swelling in my knee.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Was awful.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
It was absolutely awful. I ended up over at the
orthopedics er and so they tried to drain it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
They couldn't drain it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And the doctor said, well, you've got two different, you know,
choices here. You can you know, we can do surgery.
It's relatively minor. We got to put you out and
we can do that soon. We'll go in, we'll take
all the gunk out and we'll see you up and
you'll be on your way, you know, or you can
wait and see, you know, you can wait and see
if it goes down. And I asked the doctor, I'm like, well,
you know, what do you what do you think is
going to happen? What do you recommend? He's like, I
don't think it's going to the swelling's going to go down.
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I think it's going to stay in there. I would
recommend doing surgery.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I have to wait. And as I said, here right
now and talk to you, it's gone.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
It's not it's not there anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I am so happy to hear that. That's a get
end to the story.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Well, yeah, and It was interesting because you know, I'm like,
that would have cost me a lot of money, would
have done more harm to my body, you know, And
it was based off a guesswork. And I was reading
the story about you know, AI looking into authorizations and
certain medical procedures and things of that nature, and I'm wondering,
you know, at what point will AI be able to
interject and maybe provide me a better answer than what
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the doctor was able to do able to do again,
or more of a more of a general just.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
You know statement than it is a question. But you know,
if you want to comment on it.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, even before the current revolution, at AI has long
been better at making diagnoses than doctors. Like this has
been true for decades that because it's basic pattern recognition
and humans get fatigued as a day goes on. You know,
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It's not like a straight there's no straight answer that
we want AI making diagnoses rather than doctors or the like,
but it certainly is a part of doctors' processes. And
that's I would say, on the whole a good thing
because AI is comparatively skilled at doing this exact kind
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of work. So yeah, there, if you kind of look
at the sub total of what we've talked about today.
Things are a little bit all over the map. Right,
AI is scary, AI is competent. Parts of what AI
do will be politically unpopular. Maybe that's not a bad thing.
There's areas where the AI are going to is going
to touch where decisions are so personal that how we
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feel about what AI is doing, like in the healthcare space,
won't necessarily track with our politics. And at some point,
you know, we're just going to take as a given
that AI is doing all this stuff that today is
kind of fantastical, that it's starting to touch.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's how you put it together.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
There some total of what we've talked about, and in
part if you look at what we've talked about, some
of its contradictory. Right, there are some things that AI
is clearly get at and maybe it's an area that's
very intimate, but we're not bothered by the fact that
it's touching it. And all of that comes to one thing,
which I know we'll talk about but probably not today, John,
which is what is AI's worldview?
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Right?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
You shold me an article on this, and that's this
fundamental question which is so important to the AI powered
world that we're moving into where it touches our healthcare,
our governance, and every aspect of our lives.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I have this story, and let me go about it
this way, because you know I'm looking I was looking
at it again today. I've had it in the stack
now for a week or so from the blaze about
almost half of gen Z wants AI to run government.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You should be terrified.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
This is worthy of a much length you know, a
much lengthier conversation to dive into.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
So I'm going to put a pin in this particular story.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I do want to ask you, though, sort of dove
tailing off of this as we lead back into the
other stories we're covering on the show, and certainly all
of the fraud investigations that are happening right now here
in Minnesota as this is blown wide open and grabbed
national attention. We have Elliott Ingen representative and running for
state auditor and studio at seven thirty. Apparently he has
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a new fraud revelation to share with us.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
The question that I want to ask.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You, though, is relating to AI helping to speed the
investigative process.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I haven't seen this yet. I don't know if you
have seen it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
But I imagine that with AI, we now would have the
ability one to speed up the investigative process just being
able to comb through you know, reams of documents, but
also when it comes to how we conduct you know,
crafting laws within the legislature locally or nationally. When you
get these big, massive omnibus bills that are thousands of pages,
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I would think that AI now could be able to
comb through that rapidly to find specific aspects that people
would be concerned about things that we're implemented in, rather
than humans going and having to read through all of this.
So what are your thoughts relating to AI government investigations
and how we can utilize that.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, my thought is that this is not hypothetical. This
is certainly being done. This is the way Elon Musk
and the team at DOGE used AI to try to
find waste, fraud and abuse in government systems. It's already
a part of investigations looking for different patterns that seem anomalous,
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and you know, it's already used to draft legislation as
well as understanding legislation. Is not just like, yeah, it
could be used this way. I would say it's definitely
being used this way, even if people aren't being very
loud about it.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Dev de Gartenstein Ross as always, thank you so much
for the time this morning. Let's try to do it
one more time next week if we can. If we're
not able to thank you so much for the time
you've given us this year, and a Merry Christmas to you.
I'm heading on vacation after next week, but if you're available,
we can do it again one more time next week.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Well, very Christmas, John and I will talk to you
next week. Sounds great, Thanks buddy. All Right, we do
have again on doctor Oz demanding that Walls take action
to stop medicaid fraud. We're going to get an update
on whether or not the CMS administrator, doctor mement Oz
has heard from Governor Tim Walls, and whether or not
he's been receiving any sort of cooperation coming from the
Walls administration into the fraud investigations at the federal level.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I want to go to a.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Story that I touched upon briefly yesterday but didn't get
a chance to get into the details. The Minnesota Department
of Corrections inmate who was among the first to be
released early from her sentence under the Minnesota Rehabilitation and
Reinvestment Act is now a wanted fugitive.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Beance Marie Nin, twenty.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Three years old. I may have said her first name wrong,
vain Ants, I don't know whatever. Marine Nin was released
from the Shakapee Women's Prison in September after only serving
sixteen months of her forty eight month sentence for a
conviction for second degree drug sales. Marine Nin's really classy.
She's got a big marijuana tattoo right next to her
(30:33):
left eye. Really brings out the color in her eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I gotta say that.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
According to the Department of Corrections website, Nin absconded from
supervision last week and is now listed as a one fugitive.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
What could go wrong with the program like this region.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
The MRR was legislation passed on a party line vote
and signed by Governor Tim Jong Walls during the twenty
twenty three Minnesota DFL trifecta that has just turned out
to be absolutely disastrous here for Minnesota. It gave the
Department of Corrections authority to decide if and when inmates
could become eligible for early release from prison under Minnesota law.
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Prior to the legislation, inmates were already only required to
serve two thirds of their sentence incarcerated before becoming eligible
for release, so we already had less stringent rules in place. However,
allows for prisoners to be released as early as fifty
percent at the mark of their time serving, as long
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as they follow individualized rehabilitation plans. According to the Walls
appointed Commissioner of Corrections Paul Schanell during a legislative hearing
in February of twenty twenty three, Then was convicted in
twenty twenty four May under the terms of a plea
deal of an amended account of second degree drug sales
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after initially being charged with first degree drug sales, third
and fifty degree drug possession an unlawful possession of prescription
medican medications. The original charging document states that Nin was
arrested during a traffic stop after law enforcement received a
tip that she.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Was wanted on a warrant.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
At the time of her arrest, Nin was found with
over twenty grams of methamphetamine, sixty two grams of marijuana,
several pill bottles containing dozens of pills of prescription medications
that were in another person's name, a scale of backpack
containing a notebook with dates and inventory notations and several
clear zipper lock plastic baggies. At conviction, Nin was credited
(32:38):
with three hundred and sixteen days spent in jail prior
to her conviction. Where were all of the claims that
this was a citizen being arrested?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Is a citizen being arrested? Everybody? Yeah? Oh yeah, Because.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It wasn't politically advantageous for Democrats to go and give
that ridiculous complaint that they're now using, the Department of
Corrections set in a statement that INN isition a warrant
for Nin on December fifth, after she failed to report
for her supervision Agents office is directed. Miss Nin is
now listed as a one and fugitive. The issuance of
the warrant for violating supervised release conditions is standard protocol.
(33:15):
Remember last week when Governor Tim Walls held that press
conference and he's so forcefully acting like he's a leader,
said that he was very upset that people say that
Minnesotans commit fraud.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
All Minnesotans commit fraud. I trust Minnesotans.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, these are the kind of people that Tim Walls trusts.
It reminds me quite a bit of what we do
when individuals are caught coming into the country illegally and
we say, all right, you can stay, but you got
to go show up to that court date so the
judge can side can decide whether or not you're gonna
stay here, and then they just don't bother to show up.
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The Department did confirm that earned that nin earned the
early release under the MRR initial Pilot program. The agency
said that it remains committed to public safety and to
supporting individuals in their efforts to successfully reintegrate into the community. Clearly,
this individual has no desire to go and integrate back
into the community as a law abiding citizen. You give
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them a break, and in this case, she went and
just decided now, but I'm going to go.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Back to my law breaking ways. Yeah. Bang up job, DFL,
bang up job.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
The Centers for Medicine and Medicaid Services demanding Walls take
a more aggressive approach and confronting fraud or risk losing
federal Medicaid funding. Doctor Oz is asking Minnesota to provide
weekly updates on its audit activities related to the fourteen
high risk services. These are the ones that tim Walls
ended up cutting the funding off of Freeze enrollment of
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high risk providers, confirm all providers in place are legitimate
or remove them, and submit a corrective action plan on
how it will prevent future So, how are those weekly
updates going. We'll find out from doctor Oz next here
on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty and one
oh three five FM
I get off. How dare we speak Merry Christmas? How
dare we.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let me begin by wishing each and every one of
you are very merry Christmas, Happy New Year, all of
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
The Trump administration buys a fleet of deportation jets. I'll
give you the number of ICE arrests so far in
the Twin Cities coming up in just a moment, as we.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Embark on our Tuesday adventure.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thursday Adventure, No idea why Tuesday landed in my head?
Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty one oh three
five FM from the sixty five to one Carpet plus
Next Day Install Studios. Governor Tim Walls big mad at Trump,
saying that Trump just wants a show with all these
(01:00):
arrests that are being made regarding illegal immigration, which is
really quite comical. I posted this on X before I
started the show this morning. Walls is saying that Trump
just wants a show. Considering that Walls is a walking
blank show. I think it's apropos. It's really oh, I
(01:24):
don't even know what the word is. I'll say just stupid.
The Democrats are very very good. We've talked about this before,
and we did last week as well.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But the Democrats are.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Really really good at suddenly acting as if this thing
that's happening it's the first time that it's happened, like
this is unprecedented, something that is relatively normal and benign
in the grand scheme of things, in this case, arresting
of US citizens.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
That happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
US citizens get arrested every single day, those that go
and break the law.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But the way you have.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Governor Tim Walls, our Democrat elected officials, the idiots that
are running the city of Minneapolis, suddenly now a citizen
was arrested. Well, yeah, they were obstructing law enforcement. We
have another one this morning. Yesterday we focused on the
white liberal activists Siue Tinsure and her bravery. Today we
(02:26):
have another individual who was arrested. Now had a press conference,
had the police chief, Brian O'Hara, the Minneapolis Man Baby
mayor Mom Jeans, Jacob Frye all out talking about how
concerned they are. You got the DFL and Governor Tim
Walls posting their petty little comments online there were arresting citizens.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, that happens. It happens every damn day, But.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They act like this is some unprecedented thing. No FAFO,
It's quite that simple. We'll talk about that in detail
coming up in the eight o'clock hour. We got a
lot of ground to cover today, So Representative Elliott Engen
will be joining the in studio coming up at seven
thirty this morning. Apparently he has brand new fraud to
(03:15):
share with us on the show, something we haven't heard
about as of yet, so I'm looking forward to that again.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
That'll happen at seven thirty.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
How are the investigations on the federal level into Minnesota's fraud?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
How are those progressing?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You had Doctor Oz, doctor mement Oz, the CMS administrator,
last week saying that his office has never seen the
people working in his office that have been there longer
than he has have never seen anything like what we're
currently dealing with here in Minnesota. And they're providing weekly updates. Well,
doctor Oz is going to be joining us at seven
o'clock this morning to share with us the latest as
(03:54):
it relates to those updates. What kind of help coordination
have they been receiving compliance with Governor Tim Walls his
administration government officials here in Minnesota. We'll find out at
seven o'clock this morning, here on Twin City's News Talk
and David garten Stein Ross, you're AI analyst and expert.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
He'll be joining us coming up at six point thirty
this morning.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Secretary of War Pete Hegseth has picked its AI platform
as a fighting force. Will let you know which platform
they're going with, concerns in Medicare's new AI experiment regarding
authorization for medical procedures, and also why almost half of
gen Z wants the AI to run the government in
(04:38):
how that is absolutely terrifying. So those are a few
items that we'll talk about with David garten Stein Ross,
and of course he'll answer any AI related questions that
you have via the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
App this morning.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, be sure to
leave us a talkback. We'll get to those coming up
in just a few minutes here on Twin City's News Talk.
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Those are brought to you by Lyndahl Realty.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Also give you details a little bit more details regarding
the Department of Homeland Security signing a contract of nearly
one hundred and forty million dollars to purchase six Bowing
seven thirty seven planes for deportations and that number of
individuals that have already been arrested here in the Twin
Cities since December first. So i'll give you the details
(05:20):
of that as we navigate all of their relevant stories
relating to Minnesota and how we continue to dominate the
national media headlines, although a lot of the liberal networks
are completely ignoring everything that's going on, and that's not
of any surprise. Be that as it may, we continue
to be the number one story as it relates to
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fraud here in Minnesota. And it really is interesting to
see just how people are so shocked.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And they should be.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
We just become so used to it, so I find
that highly entertaining. I also find you highly entertaining. So
we'll get to those comments coming up from the iHeartRadio app.
Your emails Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. Glad you're with
the show this morning. Don't go anywhere. You're listening to
Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty and one oh
three five FM.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
The what's called the Trump derangement problem? Have you heard
about that problem?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I saw a social post yesterday of a woman in
Ohio making the claim that what's happening in Minnesota is
happening there, almost identically, involving the same community members. There's
zero coverage of this going on in the legacy media.
There are no coincidences when it comes to corruption in government.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Well, I sat down for that podcast conversation with Sarah
Westall earlier this week, and she was talking about other
states or they're dealing with similar issues Colorado to be specifically,
wherein you had individuals Venezuelans there taking over apartment complexes,
(06:54):
wreaking havoc and similar arguments in that community in Colorado.
We're hearing here regarding the Somali community, and we'll be
dealing with this and talking about it in much more
detail a little bit later on in the show. It
is Twin Cities News Talk from the sixty five to
one Carpet plus Next Day Install Studios David Gartenstein Ross
coming up in a few minutes. We'll talk a little ai.
(07:15):
The Department of Homeland Security is going to shift from
relying solely on charter services to operating its own aircraft.
After Congress approved a major funding increase for Trump's border
and immigration agenda. They authorized one hundred and seventy billion
for immigration and border operations over the next four years
as part of the GOP tax bill, and the plane
(07:38):
funding is coming from that package. Two sources familiar with
the contract and records were reviewed by The Washington Post
said that ICE may have broader plans for the aircraft
borders are Tom Holmes said the administration has made an
overall nationwide about five hundred and seventy nine thousand removals.
DHS data shows that nearly sixty six immigrants are currently
(08:02):
in federal detention now. Locally, since December one, ICE has
arrested more than four hundred people here in the Twin Cities.
And again, these are individuals that were here illegally already,
but also committed other crimes domestic abuse, assaults, sex offenders
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of minors, no less, these are the individuals, these four hundred,
These are the individuals and the charges that they have
that I mentioned that these performative activist theater actors are
out there defending that our leadership ignores while they try
to frame this whole issue as citizens are being arrested,
(08:51):
citizens are being detained. Yeah, it's not as I mean,
it's a thing, but it's not a thing if you're
legally here, if you break the law and then you
get arrested.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You're a citizen that got arrested. I'm sorry, I'm being
really sarcastic.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
It just.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
People act so willfully ignorant over these situations.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The people that post online, they get all up in
arms in this.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
They're not they're not using any level of just not
even critical thinking, just thinking. The story that we have
that will cover starting at eight o'clock today. I would
get to it earlier, but like I said, we have
a lot of guests coming up and things already planned,
so we'll have plenty of time to talk about this
coming up at eight o'clock. But Somali man says he's
(09:39):
an American citizen and speaks out after ICE detainment. The
Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara expresses his frustration with ICE agents,
who says, he who said they detained a US citizen.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And what's hysterical about.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
This is that they interchange American and Somali throughout the
core of talking about this in whichever way is most
beneficial to go and perpetuate their narratives. So in some circumstances, oh,
he's an American citizen being detained, and other circumstances when
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it's more beneficial for Democrats to go and focus on
him being Somali. They say, the way, he's a Somali
man taken into custody, but he's here legally, and people they.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Just they just they lap it up.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
They don't bother giving a shred of critical thinking, going well, well, yeah,
I mean he got in the way of law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
You can see the video.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
There's video of this individual getting in the way of
law enforcement. It's like that any yesterday's U Tensure. Well,
you know, I was just standing there and suddenly they
tackled and arrested me.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
No, they told you to get back. You didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You weren't listening to what law enforcement had to say.
They don't know what kind of danger you're going to pose.
They haven't padded you down. They don't know if you
have if you have any weapons on you, or what
you're capable of for crying out loud, you've out in
the dead of night to act like some citizen superhero.
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The Ice agents know who they're arresting. The individual was
a criminal. I'll have the story later on this morning
from Fox News. They lay out the details of the
background of the individual that was being arrested that this
woman was there to go and defend.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So they know.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
The background of the individual being arrested, and so you
have people that are there defending that individual. Well what
are the people they're defending that individual capable of.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So yeah, if you get in their way, they're going
to detain you. And that's what happened with this dude,
this move.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Bashir says, he showed identification multiple times.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Great, thanks for letting law enforcement know who you were.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
It doesn't change the fact that if you watch the
video you can clearly see he was not cooperating. Why
because he wanted to get arrested. He wanted to get
detained so he can do exactly what they're doing now,
so he can be used upon in the liberal scheme
to create this narrative to perpetuate the idea of what
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Governor Tim Walls has said, this is the Gestapo. It's
I think it's all just performative theater. I'm gonna hold
off on Tom Homan. The comment that I have from
him talking on Fox News is him looking into investigating
Ilhan Omar. So I'm gonna stick a pin in that
and we'll get back to it a little bit later
(12:28):
on David Gartenstein Ross is gonna be joining us here
in just a moment on Twin Cities News Talk. If
you have any AI related questions as we deviate just
a bit, you can get those in on the iHeartRadio app.
The Department of War has selected Google's Gemini to serve
as the Department's first enterprise AI deployed across its international platform.
(12:48):
And how worried should we be that almost half of
gen z wants AI to run the government. Although right now,
between artificial intelligence and Governor Tim Wall's running Minnesota, I'm
probably gonna default to artificial intelligence because it is.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Clearly smarter than Governor Tim Walls is good morning, and
I love your show.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
In an oddball away, the Minnesota government is being run
by artificial intelligence because it certainly is a normal intelligence.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I'll put that in the running for talk Back of
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News Talk Am eleven thirty one oh three five FM
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My name is John just is very pleased to welcome
back to the show. My AI analyst and expert CEO
AT Expert Theerry David Gartenstein Ross, Good morning, my friend.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
How are we doing this morning?
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Good morning, John, doing great and it's always great to
join you.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
We have this We're going to talk about it later
on in the show. We've been discussing it a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
It's going to be a big issue next year, this
new paid family medical leave program, and I won't get
into the details of it now it relates to AI.
I wanted to ask you something as we start off
our conversation, but with pay family medical leave, it's basically
going to impact every single taxpayer here and working taxpayer
here in Minnesota, from you know, the employer down to
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the employee, even people that aren't working. It's interesting to
me because we talk about AI, and whenever I prep
for our conversation, I'm reminded that AI really is also
touching every single facet of our of our lives, and
I still don't think a lot of people have really.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Caught up to that fact yet.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
The question I wanted to ask you is we dive
into a couple of these stories though, is do you
think it'll largely go unnoticed for people like other technological advancements,
or do you think that people will begin to realize
at some point just how much AI is impacting all
different facets of our society.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I'm just curious if you feel like it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Absorbed with the current technology, or if you think it
will be like to the forefront of the conversation moving forward.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
That's a wonderful question. I think there will be a
shift in how people view it. That it starts with
skepticism over whether AI will fundamentally touch all aspects of
our lives, and you and I have talked through some
of those skeptical reactions, and then suddenly there's a shift
and everybody will say, oh, yeah, of course, it is
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as though this was to be expected all along. That's
typically how I see people process things that are this
fundamentally transformative.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I'm really curious one of the things that I'm most
interested in seeing. And this is just more of a
statement than it is a question, But feel free to respond,
you know, I'm really curious to see what people's reaction
will be to those areas where it's clear that AI
has made an impact. And I'll speak to pop culture
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for just a moment. That's what's kind of on my mind.
And I continue to watch these new videos that are
that are made on an almost weekly basis, and every
single week it seems like there's some new advancement being
made wherein what we're watching is a little bit longer,
it's a little bit more detailed, it's more intricate, it's
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harder to tell whether or not it's real or not.
And it really is getting to this, to this point
where I'm very interested to see whether or not people
end up rejecting, you know, AI in our in our
entertainment space, or whether or not they end up embracing it.
And I guess that plays into a lot of what
we talk about already, But that's what I'm most interested in,
sort of the the unanswerable questions right now that only
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time will give us the answer to.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
De v Yeah, I agree with that, and I think
there's there's a lot of unknownes. I mean, we can
we have analogies, right An analogy would be computer generated
imagery CGI. You are old enough to remember what Terminator
Too came out, yep, and you know that movie was
mind blowing to people at the time.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Right People talk about.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
How the evil Terminator melted through a windshield and you
couldn't even tell where the special effects were because it
was CGI. And after that, throughout the nineteen nineties there's
discussion of you know, where CGI was particularly good. CGI
was something we noticed today. You know, we watch a
movie and we have no idea if the beautiful landscape
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we're looking at is something that was actually filmed or
if it's something that was simply entirely a creation of
a computer. Now, the big difference with the AI video,
as you're talking about is, for the first time, humans
are basically entirely taken out of the loop of the
creative process, except in small.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Ways, and that's huge.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Now, last week, what of your listeners her husband and
I actually moved my email her at some point, but
her husband is an artist for comics cartoons, and I
was worried about, like, what the impact is there. You know,
for humans, we have to really shift our conception of
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what our role is in the economic process and the
process of creation. And I don't say this is though,
that's you know, a good thing that you know, we
should embrace our new AI overlords. It's simply, you know,
the way things inevitably are at this point. Sure, AI
has gotten out of the box and moved forward so
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quickly that I just don't see anybody being able to
slow it down.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well, speaking of the terminator to vide gartan Stein Ross,
that kind of leads into the first story I want
to talk about with you. The Department of War has
selected Google's Gemini to serve as the Department's first enterprise
AI deployment across its internal platform. Gemini for Government is
the embodiment of American AI excellence, according to the Department
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of War and their public statement, placing unmatched analytical and
creative power directly into the hands of the world's most
dominating a fighting force. So tongue firmly plannet in chic
or maybe not divide. Is this the first step towards
Skynet becoming self aware, taking over our military systems like
Whopper in wargames, and wiping out humanity to make way
(19:24):
for our AI robot overlords.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I feel like the first step was taken long ago,
so no, it's not the first step. Just to be
clear about this, what Cheveni is going to be used
for is unclassified work, not for classified work, so it's
not going to be at least here a part of
the kil chain or directly involved in combat operations.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Instead.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
The kind of tasks that it will tackle include summarizing
policy handbooks, compliance checklists, the kind of asked that AI
is very good at. This is something which will make
the Department of War more efficient, which is overall a
good thing. Concerns obviously about AI becoming self aware, becoming
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humanities overlord and killing us all.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Also, do you remain.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Let's go here Medicare's new AI experiment. I have this
piece out of the Minnesota Reformer, sparking alarm among doctors
and lawmakers. In January, the Federal Centers from Medicine and
Medicaid Services, and as a matter of fact, the CMS administrator,
doctor memment Oz, is going to be joining me at
seven o'clock this morning to talk about the investigations into
(20:38):
fraud here in Minnesota. But in January, CMS said they're
going to be launching the Wasteful and Inappropriate Services Reduction
Model to test AI powered prior authorizations to certain health
services for Medicare patients in six states. The administration rolled
(20:58):
out this new WISER program, as the acronym goes, that
will require prior authorizations only for certain services and prescriptions
for the centers of Medicare and Medicaid services that they
have identified as particularly vulnerable to fraud.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Waste, abuse, and inappropriate use.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
This seems to be something along the lines of what
we've talked about quite a bit before, of this embracing
of the AI technology, but also the need to have
the human element still involved in the decision making process.
Needless to say, there are some concerns among doctors and
lawmakers over whether or not AI can be trusted to
determine whether or not these different medical services are needed
(21:37):
or not.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
What are your.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Thoughts based off of what you've seen in AI relating
to this particular program or just in general assisting with
doctors in providing older individual services like this.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
I was speaking the other day with the higher up
in a nonprofit that does work on try to combat
political polarization. Will assemble focus groups in different states to
talk about a variety of hot button issues, and what
she was telling me is that one of the issues
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that one of the issues where you cannot tell people's
political perspective is health insurance because of how personal it is,
right Like, you can't tell if someone is you know,
is you know, uh ultra maga or woke or you know,
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middle of the road or whatnot. Because everybody has their
own experiences with health insurance. This combines a couple of
things that people don't like. It combines prior authorization with
a decision maker who won't necessarily be responsive, and so
it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. One
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can think of all of the problems, but generally speaking,
we do know people will be upset at then fairly
or not, and so it'll be interesting to see how
it goes. But to me, the point that people's views
of healthcare health insurance don't track with their political views
(23:14):
is an interesting one that I think we'll see it
play here.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
One aspect of this, I'm curious about AI sort of
assisting in and I'll use a personal, you know, experience
that I just went through. So this was a I
don't know, a month and a half ago, maybe two
months ago now, I had tripped going up the stairs
into my kitchen and I was holding a bowl at
the time.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I was wearing some slippers.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
They just slipped and I ended up nailing my right
knee right at the top edge of the stair and
I had this pteller bursts. I had this massive, massive,
you know, swelling in my knee.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Was awful.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
It was absolutely awful. I ended up over at the
orthopedics er and so they tried to drain it.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
They couldn't drain it.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And the doctor said, well, you've got two different, you know,
choices here. You can you know, we can do surgery.
It's relatively minor. We got to put you out and
we can do that soon. We'll go in, we'll take
all the gunk out and we'll see you up and
you'll be on your way, you know, or you can
wait and see, you know, you can wait and see
if it goes down. And I asked the doctor, I'm like, well,
you know, what do you what do you think is
going to happen? What do you recommend? He's like, I
don't think it's going to the swelling's going to go down.
(24:13):
I think it's going to stay in there. I would
recommend doing surgery.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I have to wait. And as I said, here right
now and talk to you, it's gone.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
It's not it's not there anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I am so happy to hear that. That's a get
end to the story.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Well, yeah, and It was interesting because you know, I'm like,
that would have cost me a lot of money, would
have done more harm to my body, you know, And
it was based off a guesswork. And I was reading
the story about you know, AI looking into authorizations and
certain medical procedures and things of that nature, and I'm wondering,
you know, at what point will AI be able to
interject and maybe provide me a better answer than what
(24:49):
the doctor was able to do able to do again,
or more of a more of a general just.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
You know statement than it is a question. But you know,
if you want to comment on it.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, even before the current revolution, at AI has long
been better at making diagnoses than doctors. Like this has
been true for decades that because it's basic pattern recognition
and humans get fatigued as a day goes on. You know,
(25:17):
It's not like a straight there's no straight answer that
we want AI making diagnoses rather than doctors or the like,
but it certainly is a part of doctors' processes. And
that's I would say, on the whole a good thing
because AI is comparatively skilled at doing this exact kind
(25:41):
of work. So yeah, there, if you kind of look
at the sub total of what we've talked about today.
Things are a little bit all over the map. Right,
AI is scary, AI is competent. Parts of what AI
do will be politically unpopular. Maybe that's not a bad thing.
There's areas where the AI are going to is going
to touch where decisions are so personal that how we
(26:02):
feel about what AI is doing, like in the healthcare space,
won't necessarily track with our politics. And at some point,
you know, we're just going to take as a given
that AI is doing all this stuff that today is
kind of fantastical, that it's starting to touch.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's how you put it together.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
There some total of what we've talked about, and in
part if you look at what we've talked about, some
of its contradictory. Right, there are some things that AI
is clearly get at and maybe it's an area that's
very intimate, but we're not bothered by the fact that
it's touching it. And all of that comes to one thing,
which I know we'll talk about but probably not today, John,
which is what is AI's worldview?
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Right?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
You shold me an article on this, and that's this
fundamental question which is so important to the AI powered
world that we're moving into where it touches our healthcare,
our governance, and every aspect of our lives.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I have this story, and let me go about it
this way, because you know I'm looking I was looking
at it again today. I've had it in the stack
now for a week or so from the blaze about
almost half of gen Z wants AI to run government.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You should be terrified.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
This is worthy of a much length you know, a
much lengthier conversation to dive into.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
So I'm going to put a pin in this particular story.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I do want to ask you, though, sort of dove
tailing off of this as we lead back into the
other stories we're covering on the show, and certainly all
of the fraud investigations that are happening right now here
in Minnesota as this is blown wide open and grabbed
national attention. We have Elliott Ingen representative and running for
state auditor and studio at seven thirty. Apparently he has
(27:37):
a new fraud revelation to share with us.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
The question that I want to ask.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
You, though, is relating to AI helping to speed the
investigative process.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I haven't seen this yet. I don't know if you
have seen it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
But I imagine that with AI, we now would have the
ability one to speed up the investigative process just being
able to comb through you know, reams of documents, but
also when it comes to how we conduct you know,
crafting laws within the legislature locally or nationally. When you
get these big, massive omnibus bills that are thousands of pages,
(28:15):
I would think that AI now could be able to
comb through that rapidly to find specific aspects that people
would be concerned about things that we're implemented in, rather
than humans going and having to read through all of this.
So what are your thoughts relating to AI government investigations
and how we can utilize that.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, my thought is that this is not hypothetical. This
is certainly being done. This is the way Elon Musk
and the team at DOGE used AI to try to
find waste, fraud and abuse in government systems. It's already
a part of investigations looking for different patterns that seem anomalous,
(28:54):
and you know, it's already used to draft legislation as
well as understanding legislation. Is not just like, yeah, it
could be used this way. I would say it's definitely
being used this way, even if people aren't being very
loud about it.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Dev de Gartenstein Ross as always, thank you so much
for the time this morning. Let's try to do it
one more time next week if we can. If we're
not able to thank you so much for the time
you've given us this year, and a Merry Christmas to you.
I'm heading on vacation after next week, but if you're available,
we can do it again one more time next week.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Well, very Christmas, John and I will talk to you
next week. Sounds great, Thanks buddy. All Right, we do
have again on doctor Oz demanding that Walls take action
to stop medicaid fraud. We're going to get an update
on whether or not the CMS administrator, doctor mement Oz
has heard from Governor Tim Walls, and whether or not
he's been receiving any sort of cooperation coming from the
Walls administration into the fraud investigations at the federal level.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I want to go to a.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Story that I touched upon briefly yesterday but didn't get
a chance to get into the details. The Minnesota Department
of Corrections inmate who was among the first to be
released early from her sentence under the Minnesota Rehabilitation and
Reinvestment Act is now a wanted fugitive.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Beance Marie Nin, twenty.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Three years old. I may have said her first name wrong,
vain Ants, I don't know whatever. Marine Nin was released
from the Shakapee Women's Prison in September after only serving
sixteen months of her forty eight month sentence for a
conviction for second degree drug sales. Marine Nin's really classy.
She's got a big marijuana tattoo right next to her
(30:33):
left eye. Really brings out the color in her eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I gotta say that.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
According to the Department of Corrections website, Nin absconded from
supervision last week and is now listed as a one fugitive.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
What could go wrong with the program like this region.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
The MRR was legislation passed on a party line vote
and signed by Governor Tim Jong Walls during the twenty
twenty three Minnesota DFL trifecta that has just turned out
to be absolutely disastrous here for Minnesota. It gave the
Department of Corrections authority to decide if and when inmates
could become eligible for early release from prison under Minnesota law.
(31:14):
Prior to the legislation, inmates were already only required to
serve two thirds of their sentence incarcerated before becoming eligible
for release, so we already had less stringent rules in place. However,
allows for prisoners to be released as early as fifty
percent at the mark of their time serving, as long
(31:37):
as they follow individualized rehabilitation plans. According to the Walls
appointed Commissioner of Corrections Paul Schanell during a legislative hearing
in February of twenty twenty three, Then was convicted in
twenty twenty four May under the terms of a plea
deal of an amended account of second degree drug sales
(31:57):
after initially being charged with first degree drug sales, third
and fifty degree drug possession an unlawful possession of prescription
medican medications. The original charging document states that Nin was
arrested during a traffic stop after law enforcement received a
tip that she.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Was wanted on a warrant.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
At the time of her arrest, Nin was found with
over twenty grams of methamphetamine, sixty two grams of marijuana,
several pill bottles containing dozens of pills of prescription medications
that were in another person's name, a scale of backpack
containing a notebook with dates and inventory notations and several
clear zipper lock plastic baggies. At conviction, Nin was credited
(32:38):
with three hundred and sixteen days spent in jail prior
to her conviction. Where were all of the claims that
this was a citizen being arrested?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Is a citizen being arrested? Everybody? Yeah? Oh yeah, Because.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It wasn't politically advantageous for Democrats to go and give
that ridiculous complaint that they're now using, the Department of
Corrections set in a statement that INN isition a warrant
for Nin on December fifth, after she failed to report
for her supervision Agents office is directed. Miss Nin is
now listed as a one and fugitive. The issuance of
the warrant for violating supervised release conditions is standard protocol.
(33:15):
Remember last week when Governor Tim Walls held that press
conference and he's so forcefully acting like he's a leader,
said that he was very upset that people say that
Minnesotans commit fraud.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
All Minnesotans commit fraud. I trust Minnesotans.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, these are the kind of people that Tim Walls trusts.
It reminds me quite a bit of what we do
when individuals are caught coming into the country illegally and
we say, all right, you can stay, but you got
to go show up to that court date so the
judge can side can decide whether or not you're gonna
stay here, and then they just don't bother to show up.
(33:54):
The Department did confirm that earned that nin earned the
early release under the MRR initial Pilot program. The agency
said that it remains committed to public safety and to
supporting individuals in their efforts to successfully reintegrate into the community. Clearly,
this individual has no desire to go and integrate back
into the community as a law abiding citizen. You give
(34:17):
them a break, and in this case, she went and
just decided now, but I'm going to go.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Back to my law breaking ways. Yeah. Bang up job, DFL,
bang up job.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
The Centers for Medicine and Medicaid Services demanding Walls take
a more aggressive approach and confronting fraud or risk losing
federal Medicaid funding. Doctor Oz is asking Minnesota to provide
weekly updates on its audit activities related to the fourteen
high risk services. These are the ones that tim Walls
ended up cutting the funding off of Freeze enrollment of
(34:50):
high risk providers, confirm all providers in place are legitimate
or remove them, and submit a corrective action plan on
how it will prevent future So, how are those weekly
updates going. We'll find out from doctor Oz next here
on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty and one
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