November 24, 2025 • 42 mins
Jon expands his coverage of President Trump's decision to end TPS in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Power two Twin City's News Talk. Hey, I'm eleven thirty
one oh three five FM. Glad you're with the show
this morning, Both Friends and Foes from the sixty five
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Good morning, John Injustice is silf and Eating Praige?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You know you're so stupid?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
All right, hold on, let me stop here really quick.
I just like the fact that he almost forgot to
do the name dig so he actually had the course correct.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Good morning, John Injustice is silf and eating praige.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know you're so stupid.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Nobody said Trump issued any illegal orders as of now. Right,
we're said you don't have to follow any illegal orders
that he might issue. Right, open your ears, get the
cobwebs out, and you do. We have Tim Wals's arrangement syndrome,
and we should have start deporting some of you Europeans
for being stupid.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There is nobody on the right that is saying, at
least said I have heard and if people are, then
you shouldn't do that to arbitrarial lygo and just start
deporting people. We have certain policies in place that shouldn't
have lasted as long as they are, as long as
they have, and it's time for those policies to come
to an end. Specifically on the issue of Trump saying
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he's terminating the protected status for Minnesota Somalis, and I
never nothing. I need to defend myself to the foe
of the show. Like Phil, I never refuted. I never
said anything differently than what you laid out.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
That's not the question. The question is why did.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
A group of elected Democrats decide to try to go
and wedge themselves between the members of our military and
the commander in chief by asking them to not follow
illegal orders that haven't even occurred. It's completely irrelevant. There
is no example of President Donald Trump putting forward any
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illegal orders. Would you yourself would have to be a
fool and an ignorant one at that, and stupid, as
Phil defines it, to not recognize the problem of what
those congressional elected leaders did with that video. But as always, Phil,
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I appreciate you leaving a talk back here on Twin
City's News Talk.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
There's nothing I'd like more than getting up the work
a job I hate, in order to pay all these
freaking taxes, only to let the Somalis and other groups
fraudulently take the money I've given away by force. Yes,
I'm dying because I hate my job. Yeah, they get
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to live for free. It's great, it's fun. God blessed Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
From Alphinous courtesy of The Daily Caller.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
President Donald Trump announcing on Friday ending the program for
Samali nationals in Minnesota, which partially shields them from deportation.
Trump wrotes Minnesota under Governor Tim Walls, is a hub
of fraudulent money laundering activity. I am as President of
the United States here by terminating, effective immediately, the temporary
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protected status. Now Minnesota Smali community channeled untold millions of
taxpayer dollars to Al Shabab, a radical Islamic terrorist organization
affiliated with al Qaeda and based in the East African nation.
City Journal reported on the nineteenth citing anonymous former Minnesota
officials with law enforcement connections. Three different individuals completely independent
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of each other, all coroborating the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
They did not put this story out.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
There without doing the due diligence necessary to present the
case the taxpayer dollars is funding terrorist organizations like al Shabab. Now,
a jury convicted an Al Shabab member in twenty twenty
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four of conspiring to commit a Plan nine to eleven
style terror attack. Minnesota has an estimated population of seventy
nine thousand, the largest of any American state, according to
the twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three stats compiled by
Minnesota Compass Now. Of that group, fifty five point eight
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percent were foreign born, seventy eight point one percent living
in the twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul. Governor
Tim Walls responded to all of this, saying, it's not
surprising the president has chosen to broadly target an entire community.
This is what he does to change the subject, He
wrote on x shortly after Trump's post, Well, exactly what
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subject is Wall's referring to that Trump is changing the
topic away from.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Democrats.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Minnesota Representative Ilhan Omar responded to Trump's announcement, stating, she
and other Somali Americans are here to stay. I am
a citizen, and so are a majority of Somalis in America.
Good luck celebrating a policy change that doesn't have much
impact on the Somalis you love to hate. She took debate.
Walls took debate. What Donald Trump did here was he
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brought this conversation to the forefront. He put it out
in the open so that we can have an open
and honest dialogue about what has been transpiring here in
the state of Minnesota. Democrat Minnesota state Senator Omar Fat
a socialist who lost to his November fourth bid to
become the mayor of Minneapolis, he posted, the President does
not have the authority to terminate this program on his own,
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but I'm sure he's hoping that this will distract it.
Maybe this is what Walls was referring to from the
fifth teen hundred times he's mentioned in the Epstein files. Well,
he seems much less relevant now, doesn't he than he
did before.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Once granted TPS, an individual cannot be detained by DHS
Department of Homeland Security, in this case, on the basis
of his or her immigration status in the United States.
Somalia is one of a dozen countries with TPS designation.
According to the agency, the Secretary of Homeland Security may
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designate a foreign country for TPS due to the conditions
in the country that temporarily prevent the country's nationals from
returning safely or in certain circumstances where the country is
unable to handle the return of its nationals adequately. When
asked for additional comment, the White House referred to the
post by Trump on true Social Walls's office did not
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immediately respond to requests for additional comments. All right, let's
get back to I have more thoughts on this, including
the response so far, according to the Minnesota Star Tribune
panic in the Minnesota Somali community after Trump's pledge to
end deportation protections. But let's go here to the iHeartRadio
app and your talkbacks, brought to you by Lyndall Realty.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Good morning, John. I'm kind of glad that Trump did
the Somali thing.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
My question next.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Is how some governor involved isn't in jail yet and
can you explain exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
What the governor is supposed to do?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
I mean, we go from twelve billion dollars sir plus
to a eight almost eight billion dollars in trod it's
still over. I mean, what's the point of this job
you elaborate? And how did these bets sitting behind bars?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Okay, so let me get to that comment here in
just a moment. I want to address it.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I wish you would get a better phone.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
First off, let's go ahead and hear from Eric from
BRAINERD as well, because I want to address both of
these comments coming into the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
May get more than Eric from BRAINERD. Make it make sense.
I'm so confused. Our party did multiple events, videos and
gatherings with the Somali community Wednesday, Walter Hudson and even
did videos in a press conference with their business leaders.
So do we want their votes and we'll pander them
or are we cutting them out of our party?
Speaker 8 (08:20):
Now?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Thanks, I just you're completely missing the point in all
of this, and I'm glad that you left that comment
so I can help to clarify. First off, getting back
to the other comment, why isn't Walls in jail yet?
Because he hasn't been charged or convicted of anything. I'm
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not happy with the fraud that's taking place here in
the state. If you listen to the show for any
length of time, you know that I'm the one that
was out there last week saying that Walls needs to
go and resign. That went viral, by the way, right
up until the spyware app decided they didn't want to
share it anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So I made another one. Yeah, it's been grabbed by
a lot of different people.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I keep getting a smattering of messages from other different
from from listeners and friends of the show and friends
of mine throughout my radio career, listening to other commentators
who have grabbed my video and they're talking about it,
which is good, which means it's working. But when it
comes to Walls, he hasn't been He's not going to
be convicted or tried of anything regarding all of this
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if we didn't get so far, and I don't think
it's going to happen, if we didn't get the direct
connections to the upper echelons of Minnesota government, Democrat leaders
tied with feeding our future. I have no expectation whatsoever
that we're going to go and see Walls attached to
anything directly that would implicate him having broken.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
The law relating to the fraud.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
He should resign because he's the governor of the state
of Minnesota and he's been a failure in allowing this
to take place on his watch. That's what just what
a real leader does. Even if he wasn't specifically and
implicitly involved in any of it, or even aware that
it was taking place prior to the accusations and the indictments.
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He should resign because that's what a good leader does.
Now to Eric's comment about Walter Hudson doing videos with
business leaders in the Somali community, Yeah, because not everybody
in that community is guilty of fraud. You want to
handle the situation that we're dealing with, be open and honest,
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have a dialogue in a conversation, strip away your fear
of being called a racist, and just speak to the facts.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
The majority of.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The fraud committed in the state of Minnesota has been
perpetuated by the Somali community. It should go without saying,
but I'm gonna say it anyways. It doesn't mean that
everybody in the Somali community is involved in this fraud.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
If you come to the country and you immigrate here.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Legally and you abide by our laws, I don't care
what your background is. Fantastic, thank you for embracing the
American way. But if you're involved in crimes and fraud,
you need to be held accountable. And that's the problem.
Too many individuals were too afraid to speak up and
talk about a specific demographic involved in this while addressing
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the issue, and there's an argument to be made that
the government officials at the state level ignored what was
going on because they didn't want to make specific demographics
mad because those demographics typically go and vote for Democrats.
There are plenty of business leaders from all different backgrounds
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here in Minnesota, from all different walks of life, religions
and countries of origin, that just want to make a
life for themselves, provide services to the community, and follow
the law.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
This shouldn't be that difficult. So yeah, I understand.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Why Walter Hudson would do a press conference with business leaders.
If those individuals are following the law, why wouldn't you.
They haven't done anything wrong. We'll get back to more
of your thoughts coming up. We'll talk about the panic
President Donald Trump's plan is apparently sending through the communities,
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and we'll get back to more of your talkbacks coming
up here on Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty
and one oh three five FM.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Twin City's News Talk.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
AM eleven thirty one O three five FM. John Justice
Sam next door in the Master Control Booth as we
continue our Monday Thanksgiving week's show from the sixty five
to one carpet plus Next Day install studios looking at
the Minnesota Star Tribune's lengthy article regarding President Donald Trump's
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plan to end a temporary protected status for Somali's in Minnesota.
It has sparked alarm and even panic among many in Minnesota.
Somali community, the largest in the US. Well, it can't
be that alarming. They had a pot.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Look for crying out loud.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
We talked about that in the first hour of the show,
that there was a support for the community via a potluck.
Because nothing screams concern over potential deportations like string bean casserole.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And scalloped potatoes.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The move could return hundreds of refugees to Somalia, putting
them at risk of injury or death. This is according
to ab.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
D Kwani.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Jabaine, a local immigration attorney. That quote, by the way,
I want to point to you, I'm going to work
off through the start tribute article Bill Glahn at the
center of the American experiment. He also has this up
at power Line. He grabbed onto this article as well.
One point that he wanted to make in this was
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that quote there the move could return hundreds of refugees
to Somalia. Putting them at risk of injury or death
according to the local immigration attorney. So only a few hundreds,
which is what people have been pointing out, has now
turned into hundreds more quotes from the same attorneys Sending
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anyone back to Somalia today is unsafe because Al Shabab
remains active, terrorist attacks continue and the Somali government today
is unable to protect anyone.
Speaker 9 (14:48):
Hey, John, great show, as always about the TPS for
the Somalis. I know several Somalis that regularly go home
and visit family annually and come back. If a place
is that dangerous, you don't go home and visit. You
stay where you feel safe. Thank you.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
Can we call this what it is, it's the Somali mafia.
You have an Italian mafia, Jewish mafia, Irish mafia in Minneapolis.
We have a Somali mafia. No, it doesn't include every Somali.
In fact, it's a small percentage, exactly, Phil and All.
It is a mafia game these guys are playing. It's
a mafia structure. And yes, I do believe there are
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people at the state level and the county level who
are in on it.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
By the way, there were several individuals that left talkbacks
very upset at FO of the show.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Phil.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, well, Phil, you're a stupid, stupid, stupid head, stupid gosh, man,
get some vocabulary, buddy.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Phil is racist.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
I'm European and that take offense.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
To what he just said.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, I was waiting for that, by the way I was.
That's was I knew I could trust you guys to
bring it on that ridiculous statement. Although the majority of
Somalis in Minnesota, our US citizens, are lawful residents and
not directly affected by TPS, fear within the community is real.
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According to the Minnesota Star Tribune, many Somalis are in
a panic, and some are even talking about leaving Minnesota
for another state. Sending anyone back to Somalia today is unsafe.
As we mentioned a moment ago with the quote from
the Immigration attorney, Al Shabab is defined as a terrorist
group by the US State Department and controls parts of
the East African community. TPS is a legal status granted
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by the Department of Homeland Security allowing foreign nationals to
live in the United States if returning to their home
country puts them in harm's way. Somalia's status has been
in effect since nineteen ninety one, but is due to
expire in March. And so if you're one of the
handful of individuals who fall under this.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You knew that day was coming.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
There are steps that you can take prior to the
expiration date of the temporary protected status. And yeah, while
you may be assuming that it's just going to be renewed,
one has to at least be paying attention to what
is going on in the state of Minnesota and nationwide
and realize that the likelihood of that happening continues to diminish.
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There were about four hundred and thirty Somalis in the
state with TPS protections as of twenty twenty three. Now,
the Minnesota Chapter of Council on Islamic Relations said the decision,
fueled by harmful misinformation campaigns that we believe have external
political motives, will tear families apart and send individuals to
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a country that they have not known for over twenty years.
That's according to the group's executive director, Jelani Hussein, who
in a statement says this is not just a bureaucratic change,
it is a political attack on Somali and the Muslim community,
driven by islamophobia and hateful rhetoric.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Doesn't show your work on that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
They never nobody ever shows their work over commentary like that.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
What is.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
What can be pointed to and labeled specifically as being
islamophobic and what can specifically be hateful rhetoric? There's a
policy in place that ends up benefiting one particular demographic,
that's the policy. If the policy isn't renewed, it's not islamophobic.
In this case, it's not hateful. It's not being renewed
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because the temporary protected status doesn't apply anymore. And like
I said before, Trump should just call everybody's bluff.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
At this point in time and.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Say, okay, be gracious, I will not move to end
the temporary protected status. Now, I'll go ahead and wait
the one hundred and ten sum odd days between now
and March seventeenth when it was set to expire, and
I just simply won't go and renewed it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
You could just go that route.
Speaker 11 (19:04):
Everyone so up in arms about the Smalley rule by Trump, Well,
the only people worrying are those that have something to
worry about exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Oh, I wanted to share this one.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I'm a little bit behind, but we heard from Eric
and Brainerd earlier, and I appreciated this comment from the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 12 (19:24):
I'm pretty sure Eric from Baxter is the show's version
of Karl Gerbschnitt.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
If you know, you know, it's a good.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
One hundred percent, if you know you know. Congratulations to
those that got their reference. All right, coming up a
little bit more to share from the Minnesota Star Tribune article. Now,
an immigration lawyer says that Trump does lack the authority
to terminate the temporary protective status for Samalis in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's a piece out of Channel five and that headline.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Is holy misleading, and I will explain.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Why next on Twin Cities News Talk.
Speaker 13 (19:55):
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Speaker 1 (20:12):
Hey, John Hans here a representative of the German community
in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
If any of my fellow.
Speaker 12 (20:19):
Germans are committing crimes and are here on temporary protective
status or GPS, I support them being deported.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's criminals how we want to deport. Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Working off the Star Tribune article Panic in Minnesota Somali community.
After Trump's pledge to end deportation protections, I got an
email in justice at iHeartRadio dot com and Bill writes this,
So I would just like to say that I work
with many people from the Somali community on a daily basis,
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and those that I deal with, they're very good people,
and that they are just working hard to have immigrated
here legally, trying to collect a check, pay their bills,
and take care of their family like anybody else. I
think it's sad that there are those who would take
advantage of our system, regardless of which community, or race
or country they are from. As usual, the good people
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are not the ones that you will hear about in
the news. Unfortunately. I said some kind of words about
the show, thank you and thank you for that, Bill, And.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
These are not easy conversations to have because you're dealing
with the left who want to immediately use identity and
go and create false narratives relating to these issues that
what we're discussing is purely based off of identity and
therefore racist. There is a way to address both appropriately
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and still achieve your goal. You call out the fraud
and then you be open and honest about what is happening.
Fraud in Minnesota is happening, a majority of it in
these Amali community.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You be compassionate. That is the compassionate thing to do.
Call out the reality.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Adding that as Hans did, as Bill did, regardless of
who you are, if you follow the law American born
legal immigrant, you are not part of this conversation or controversy.
Democrats could still go and it would be ridiculous, but
they could still go and call out Trump for ending
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TPS if they want, but at least they would be
addressing the single biggest issue that the state is facing
right now.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
And unfortunately leaders in the community as well aren't doing
what needs to be done because they're not willing to
do it either, and that's part of the problem. I mean,
this brings me to the fact that the police chief,
Brian O'Hara had to apologize after going and being honest
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about who was committing the crime that's been taking place
in Minneapolis. I talked about this last week where Brian
o'haro hair I don't know how exactly you say it,
but the Minneapolis police chief, he came out and said
that it was kids from East Africa coming into the
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community and causing the problems relating to crime. Broken clock
is right twice a day. I applaud him for being
open and honest about what was actually going and taking place. Unfortunately,
when he did that, he ended up getting unnecessary criticism
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coming from the Somali community to the point where he
had to kind of go and apologize.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Here's how that whole exchange went down. We need to
have that Stagno Chief Obahani, I'm not gonna askubahan.
Speaker 14 (23:52):
Heip a channel coming to the Asher community or somebody
had Eo Da Dimkamala and Na monco Ki.
Speaker 15 (23:58):
The Somali community here in Minneapolis has been welcoming and
has shown love towards me, and I appreciate it. Over
the last three years, we have been working together to
try and address some of the real serious problems that
we have in our community. We have to be honest
at times with the problems that we're having in our community,
and we need our community to help us fix those
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problems together because it's real and it's serious.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
At the same time, if people.
Speaker 15 (24:25):
Have taken anything that I have said out of context
in a way that's caused harm. I apologize and I'm
sorry for that, because that's not my intention at all.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
He didn't need to apologize at all. It was completely unnecessary.
Any rational individual paying attention to what he said understood
what his comments were. When you get offended, that's a choice.
You're choosing to get offended. People had self imposed to
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silence over this issue because this is what they feared
in pointing to any specific demographic relating to a majority
of individuals going on and conducting crime, and therein lies
the power of false narratives.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
The police chief wasn't condemning blaming all of the Somali community.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
And quite honestly, if the leadership really cared, they would
acknowledge the reality in their community and then work to
address it. Knowing that he wasn't going and condemning an
entire group of individuals. You know, if my youngest was
going around the neighborhood and smacking mailboxes with a baseball bat,
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I don't know why suddenly now he's doing.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Things the kids used to do back in the fifties.
Beat it an may if he.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Was, and the police said that, well, there's an issue
with the talk show host's son who's going around and
causing vandalism to mailboxes in the nameghborhood. And then I
go and get all up in arms saying, well, you
know what if my other son he's not doing anything
and you can make him look bad, it would be ridiculous.
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As ridiculous as that example that I just tried to
share with you at the end of the piece from
the Star Tribune, and I want to share a bit
of what Bill Golah had noticed in this article. The
immigration attorney said he expects Home Land Security officials will
attempt to follow through with Trump's threats. It doesn't matter
that there's nothing connecting the people with deportation protections with
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suspected fraud. He said, the Somalis in Minnesota were to
lose TPS, people are afraid that ICE agents may start
rounding up Somali's. These are people who have lived and
worked in the community for more than twenty years. First off,
the only individuals affected would be the small amount a
few hundred that are under the temporary protected status. And
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what were those individuals going to do come March when
GPS was set to expire. Anyways, Now, Bill Glon an
American experiment, points this out. That same immigration attorney says
he believes that Trump is singling out Somali's in Minnesota
because of ongoing fraud accusations in which Somali businesses have
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been accused of stealing millions from the state Department of
Human Services. As Bill notes, and I agree you unpack
that sentence. No businesses have been accused, only individuals have
been accused. So far, we've seen more than sixty individuals
with Somali ancestry convicted of stealing several hundred millions of
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dollars three to four hundred million so far, involving both
the state departments of Human Services and Education and other
state and federal agencies that has already entered into the
realm of the proven All of these convictions have occurred
in just the past three years. Several of those convicted
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are already serving prison terms, some of the prison terms
handed down extended for decades. How many persons will eventually
be implicated? So far, there are well over one hundred
defendants formally charged across various frauds. Will the final number
be around one thousand? And what denominator do we apply
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to that numerator? It is a one hundred percent certainty,
writes Bill Klawn based on the facts already in public record,
that once we reach the end of the many state
and federal investigations and prosecutions of fraud against taxpayers, it
will be evident that Minnesota residents of Somali and East
African ethnicities were responsible for losses of more than one
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billion dollars. Those will be facts demonstrated in courts of law.
It is not support for a value judgment or a
moral conclusion. What we've seen in reaction to the City
Journal piece is a knee jerk response from many on
the left to denying the underlying facts of the frauds,
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lest it lead people to make a moral judgment. Representative
Tim Burshett, in the wake of the news that broke
last week talking about this very issue, he posted this online.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
Everybody, Tim Barchett back in Tennessee. Hey, I've been reading
a lot watching the news on these Somalis in Minnesota
and around the area that are ripping the system off,
fakeing autism. And I've got my dearest friends has autism
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and he just gets it every day, doesn't get any help,
goes to school, does his thing, has a job, takes
care of his nana and he's just a wonderful human being.
To think that somebody is using that situation to rip
off the system, to me is unbelievable. We need to
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get ahold of these people that are doing this. We
need to within the law, of course, but we need
to seize their assets. We need to mark them, no
not physically mark them, but know who they are so
that they will never ever be able to get back
in our country again, and deport their.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Asset as fast as possible.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Then we've got to my buddy's texted me right now,
buddy with authors oddly, and then what we need to
do then is to root out who in our government
allowed this to happen. That's the problem we have with
the conservative movement. We get a hold of these the
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person at the tip of the spear, and then we
don't go down to the base.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
And that's where the problem is the real problem.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
Because they've allowed this to happen, they've been paid off,
or they've got they're so deep in whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Department it is that they are.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
There's some guntar that they are able to just move
around to another another area and that needs to stop.
Needs to stop. We need to stop it now. That's
why a lot of people didn't like Elon Musk. He
rooted this stuff out and pointed it out to us.
And I'm afraid you're going to find out you dig
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deep enough in some of these scams that folks from
both parties are getting fat off of it and dad
gumming it needs to stop.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Thank y'all for seeing me here again.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Representative Tim Burchett.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I guess said his name inappropriately there or incorrectly a
moment ago, so I apologize. I know I don't typically
go and mispronounced things on the show. It's a rare occurrence.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
It needs to stay that way.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Bill Glohn wraps up his piece regarding the panic over
TPS ending and says we are way, way, way beyond.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
The stage of mere accusations.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
However, just given the numbers involved, it's unlikely that many
of any of the four hundred and thirty on TPS
are guilty of massive fraud. The Star Tribune notes that
given the late date and the intricacies of the bureaucratic
process involved, TPS will likely remain in place until it
would have expired anyways. Nationwide, on March seventeenth. The Star
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Tribune quotes the immigration attorney and says, our advice is
to stay calm, okay, but I think it's fair to
conclude that there is zero chance Trump will extend TPS
for those from Somalia status which is said to expire
in just one hundred and fourteen days nationwide. An earlier
Star Tribune report pegs the number of Somalis on TPS
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nation wide at over seven hundred. When would be a
good time to panic? And again, if I were Trump,
I would just we say, okay, We'll wait until March seventeenth.
And that was the whole point in the first place
with this, was to be able to have a conversation.
Not that ending temporary protected status was going to end
up solving anything, but it did go and blow this
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issue wide open and allow the opportunity to have that
dialogue that we're having right now and that is playing
out across the media. Channel five has a story, maybe
chuckle immigration lawyer, President Trump lacks the authority determine a
temporary protected status for Somali's in Minnesota right up until
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he has the authority to do so.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's such a missy leading headline.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Sorry, Long, an immigration attorney from Minnesota current partner at
the Colorado based Fagre Drinker, Biddle and Wreath, LLP, explain
the Trump administration has the authority to end the designation.
Early has been terminated or announced for at least seven
countries since January. However, contrary to the president's social media post,
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Long said TPS was not terminated effective immediately for Somali's
in Minnesota or anywhere in the US. So he does
have the authority to terminate it, just not immediately. I
just again, it was.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Such an incredibly misleading headline.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
US Homeland Security Secretary driving the point home of what
Trump did on Friday, she made a visit to the
Twin Cities on Sunday here to evaluate the TPS designation.
Here's a bit of the story from Fox nine as
they were conducting a Q and a with the Homeland
Security Secretary Secretary.
Speaker 14 (34:48):
Nome, do you plan to terminate that Temporary Protected Status
designation for Somalia?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
And on what basis we.
Speaker 16 (34:54):
Plan to follow the process that's in law to evaluate TPS.
It was always meant to be put in place after
an incident or an event on a temporary basis.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And that's what the evaluation will be.
Speaker 14 (35:05):
As Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noan points out, Somalia first
received Temporary Protected Status or TPS designation more than thirty
years ago in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Let me posit here by the way I misidentified the station.
This is actually from Channel five, most.
Speaker 14 (35:22):
Recently extended through March twenty twenty six, amid ongoing civil
war and political instability involving terrorist groups. Here's DFL lawyer
and former lobbyist Nancy Hilden on at issue Sunday morning.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Department of Homeland Security's own website says Somalia is a
Level four risk.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Level four means do not travel, it is not safe there.
Speaker 14 (35:45):
President Trump's social media post calling for TPS termination does
not mention those current conditions facing the roughly seven hundred
Somali nationals in the US with TPS. Instead, he points
to fraud in Minnesota. However, Sari Long, an immigration attorney
from Minnesota, says historically a change in a country's condition
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is included as justification, and she expects legal challenges to follow.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
There would need to be more. It can't simply be
that there is this ongoing focus on fraud. In Minnesota
to cancel TPS federally.
Speaker 14 (36:19):
Just to be clear on that TPS, is there a
changing condition that in the country that would give reason
for the termination of this designation.
Speaker 16 (36:29):
Well, that's not under the purview that I have the
latitude to weigh in on. That's an evaluation that's done
by the federal government and that's what they'll look at,
is to see if something from thirty years ago when
this designation was given, if it still holds true, and
if the individuals still qualify for a TPS program.
Speaker 14 (36:46):
But that will ultimately be your decision.
Speaker 16 (36:48):
It will be something that will go through the process
on and evaluate.
Speaker 14 (36:53):
And again, regardless of who is involved in this evaluation,
Secretary Nome is that final and only decision maker. I
should point out that the vast majority of Somali's in
Minnesota are now US citizens and have not been charged
or convicted of fraud. And what they did Secretary Nome
clarify whether this evaluation would be just for Somali's living
in Minnesota or would this decision have nationwide impact. Yeah,
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we've been asking about that, and she did confirm today
that this is a federal policy and therefore it has
to be applied nationwide.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Got a couple of comments that rolled in and again
that story there from Channel five over the Homeland Security
Secretary Christy Nome visiting the state yesterday. I did have
a couple of comments that came into the iHeartRadio app
your talkbacks brought to you by Lindau Realty regarding the
police chief in Minneapolis essentially apologizing if he offended anybody
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by saying that kids from East to Africa were the
ones that were primarily causing crime in downtown Minneapolis.
Speaker 12 (37:52):
The police chief should have said, if you get offended
by hearing the truth, then perhaps you should reevaluate your
position instead of apologizing.
Speaker 17 (38:04):
I don't think anyone other than left wing goofballs would
think that calling out the Somali crime is just labeling
everyone as a criminal. I'm Italian, and uh yeah, we
got the mafia thing going on, and we got the
extortion and the getting paid for not working and all
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the crime that they've committed, and bless their little hearts,
but you know, I'm not part of that group.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Real quick, John, What if these people who are doing
all of this scribe for a community of that size
that they were from Russia?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
What do you think would happen, then.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
To deal with the problem, all you need to do
is just focus on holding people accountable if they're conducting
illegal activity.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
It's that simple. I have this for Friday.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I want to go here now though new fraud unrelated
to what we're talking about, apart from putting it under
the larger umbrella of fraud. This comes from Cara Levin.
In an Eastside Saint Paul apartment, thirty nine year old
Rick Klemmer was found dead March seventh of twenty twenty five.
The death was ruled natural. The medical examiner cited in
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a large heart, but his mother, Mickey Klemmer, believes was
written on. The autopsy report tells only parts of the story.
Rick battled serious mental illness for most of his adult
wife struggled with addiction when off his court ordered medication.
His past included civil commitments, incarceration, living in supervised settings
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such as group homes. His family says he never lived
in his own home. Now that changed in the summer
of last year. He moved into his own apartment, support
by a Medicaid funded program called the Integrated Community Supports
or ICs. She said she'd visited weekly, usually spending whole
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days at his apartment. I can definitely confirm that those
days there were there was nobody there.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
There was nobody here. Now Rick was found dead the
Saint Paul.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
When Rick was found dead, the Saint Paul police questioned
an employee with Ultimate Home Health Services on the scene.
His answers sharply undercut the company's medicaid billing, So the
officer Rodriguez asks, when is the last time you know,
you guys know, when have you seen him or knew
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that he was alive. Abdul Ibraham with the Ultimate Home
Health Services said yesterday. Rodriguez went and said around what time?
Ibraham said it was yesterday morning. He's the most one
of the most independent, you know, residents here, so we
don't got to do that much checking on him. When
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asked if Rick was currently using drugs, the ICs worker responded,
I mean to be honest, I do my daily check ins.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I have no idea what he does.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
That once a day check in stands in stark contrast
to the twelve hours of one to one care that
Ultimate Home claimed to provide each day. You see Mickey,
his mother believes that if Ultimate Home Health Services had
actually been seeing her son on one to one for
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multiple hours every day as they claimed, they would have
called an ambulance in time to save him during the
medical emergency. I have more details about this new exposure
of fraud. Although we've talked about this integrated community services
before in the broader picture of talking about fraud, because
not the first time they've been in the news. So
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I'll provide with you for you more examples of this
coming up. Also, Covenor Tim Wallson his bid for a
third term puts some Democrats on edge. That's the lead
story that's been on the front of the Star Tribune
since yesterday afternoon through this morning when I was doing
my prep, and I will share with you the details
coming up an hour three here on Twin City's News
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Talk AM eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.
Power two Twin City's News Talk. Hey, I'm eleven thirty
one oh three five FM. Glad you're with the show
this morning, Both Friends and Foes from the sixty five
to one Carpet plus Next Day Install Studios.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Good morning, John Injustice is silf and Eating Praige?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You know you're so stupid?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
All right, hold on, let me stop here really quick.
I just like the fact that he almost forgot to
do the name dig so he actually had the course correct.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Good morning, John Injustice is silf and eating praige.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know you're so stupid.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Nobody said Trump issued any illegal orders as of now. Right,
we're said you don't have to follow any illegal orders
that he might issue. Right, open your ears, get the
cobwebs out, and you do. We have Tim Wals's arrangement syndrome,
and we should have start deporting some of you Europeans
for being stupid.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There is nobody on the right that is saying, at
least said I have heard and if people are, then
you shouldn't do that to arbitrarial lygo and just start
deporting people. We have certain policies in place that shouldn't
have lasted as long as they are, as long as
they have, and it's time for those policies to come
to an end. Specifically on the issue of Trump saying
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he's terminating the protected status for Minnesota Somalis, and I
never nothing. I need to defend myself to the foe
of the show. Like Phil, I never refuted. I never
said anything differently than what you laid out.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
That's not the question. The question is why did.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
A group of elected Democrats decide to try to go
and wedge themselves between the members of our military and
the commander in chief by asking them to not follow
illegal orders that haven't even occurred. It's completely irrelevant. There
is no example of President Donald Trump putting forward any
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illegal orders. Would you yourself would have to be a
fool and an ignorant one at that, and stupid, as
Phil defines it, to not recognize the problem of what
those congressional elected leaders did with that video. But as always, Phil,
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I appreciate you leaving a talk back here on Twin
City's News Talk.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
There's nothing I'd like more than getting up the work
a job I hate, in order to pay all these
freaking taxes, only to let the Somalis and other groups
fraudulently take the money I've given away by force. Yes,
I'm dying because I hate my job. Yeah, they get
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to live for free. It's great, it's fun. God blessed Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
From Alphinous courtesy of The Daily Caller.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
President Donald Trump announcing on Friday ending the program for
Samali nationals in Minnesota, which partially shields them from deportation.
Trump wrotes Minnesota under Governor Tim Walls, is a hub
of fraudulent money laundering activity. I am as President of
the United States here by terminating, effective immediately, the temporary
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protected status. Now Minnesota Smali community channeled untold millions of
taxpayer dollars to Al Shabab, a radical Islamic terrorist organization
affiliated with al Qaeda and based in the East African nation.
City Journal reported on the nineteenth citing anonymous former Minnesota
officials with law enforcement connections. Three different individuals completely independent
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of each other, all coroborating the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
They did not put this story out.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
There without doing the due diligence necessary to present the
case the taxpayer dollars is funding terrorist organizations like al Shabab. Now,
a jury convicted an Al Shabab member in twenty twenty
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four of conspiring to commit a Plan nine to eleven
style terror attack. Minnesota has an estimated population of seventy
nine thousand, the largest of any American state, according to
the twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three stats compiled by
Minnesota Compass Now. Of that group, fifty five point eight
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percent were foreign born, seventy eight point one percent living
in the twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul. Governor
Tim Walls responded to all of this, saying, it's not
surprising the president has chosen to broadly target an entire community.
This is what he does to change the subject, He
wrote on x shortly after Trump's post, Well, exactly what
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subject is Wall's referring to that Trump is changing the
topic away from.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Democrats.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Minnesota Representative Ilhan Omar responded to Trump's announcement, stating, she
and other Somali Americans are here to stay. I am
a citizen, and so are a majority of Somalis in America.
Good luck celebrating a policy change that doesn't have much
impact on the Somalis you love to hate. She took debate.
Walls took debate. What Donald Trump did here was he
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brought this conversation to the forefront. He put it out
in the open so that we can have an open
and honest dialogue about what has been transpiring here in
the state of Minnesota. Democrat Minnesota state Senator Omar Fat
a socialist who lost to his November fourth bid to
become the mayor of Minneapolis, he posted, the President does
not have the authority to terminate this program on his own,
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but I'm sure he's hoping that this will distract it.
Maybe this is what Walls was referring to from the
fifth teen hundred times he's mentioned in the Epstein files. Well,
he seems much less relevant now, doesn't he than he
did before.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Once granted TPS, an individual cannot be detained by DHS
Department of Homeland Security, in this case, on the basis
of his or her immigration status in the United States.
Somalia is one of a dozen countries with TPS designation.
According to the agency, the Secretary of Homeland Security may
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designate a foreign country for TPS due to the conditions
in the country that temporarily prevent the country's nationals from
returning safely or in certain circumstances where the country is
unable to handle the return of its nationals adequately. When
asked for additional comment, the White House referred to the
post by Trump on true Social Walls's office did not
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immediately respond to requests for additional comments. All right, let's
get back to I have more thoughts on this, including
the response so far, according to the Minnesota Star Tribune
panic in the Minnesota Somali community after Trump's pledge to
end deportation protections. But let's go here to the iHeartRadio
app and your talkbacks, brought to you by Lyndall Realty.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Good morning, John. I'm kind of glad that Trump did
the Somali thing.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
My question next.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Is how some governor involved isn't in jail yet and
can you explain exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
What the governor is supposed to do?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
I mean, we go from twelve billion dollars sir plus
to a eight almost eight billion dollars in trod it's
still over. I mean, what's the point of this job
you elaborate? And how did these bets sitting behind bars?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Okay, so let me get to that comment here in
just a moment. I want to address it.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I wish you would get a better phone.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
First off, let's go ahead and hear from Eric from
BRAINERD as well, because I want to address both of
these comments coming into the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
May get more than Eric from BRAINERD. Make it make sense.
I'm so confused. Our party did multiple events, videos and
gatherings with the Somali community Wednesday, Walter Hudson and even
did videos in a press conference with their business leaders.
So do we want their votes and we'll pander them
or are we cutting them out of our party?
Speaker 8 (08:20):
Now?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Thanks, I just you're completely missing the point in all
of this, and I'm glad that you left that comment
so I can help to clarify. First off, getting back
to the other comment, why isn't Walls in jail yet?
Because he hasn't been charged or convicted of anything. I'm
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not happy with the fraud that's taking place here in
the state. If you listen to the show for any
length of time, you know that I'm the one that
was out there last week saying that Walls needs to
go and resign. That went viral, by the way, right
up until the spyware app decided they didn't want to
share it anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So I made another one. Yeah, it's been grabbed by
a lot of different people.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I keep getting a smattering of messages from other different
from from listeners and friends of the show and friends
of mine throughout my radio career, listening to other commentators
who have grabbed my video and they're talking about it,
which is good, which means it's working. But when it
comes to Walls, he hasn't been He's not going to
be convicted or tried of anything regarding all of this
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if we didn't get so far, and I don't think
it's going to happen, if we didn't get the direct
connections to the upper echelons of Minnesota government, Democrat leaders
tied with feeding our future. I have no expectation whatsoever
that we're going to go and see Walls attached to
anything directly that would implicate him having broken.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
The law relating to the fraud.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
He should resign because he's the governor of the state
of Minnesota and he's been a failure in allowing this
to take place on his watch. That's what just what
a real leader does. Even if he wasn't specifically and
implicitly involved in any of it, or even aware that
it was taking place prior to the accusations and the indictments.
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He should resign because that's what a good leader does.
Now to Eric's comment about Walter Hudson doing videos with
business leaders in the Somali community, Yeah, because not everybody
in that community is guilty of fraud. You want to
handle the situation that we're dealing with, be open and honest,
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have a dialogue in a conversation, strip away your fear
of being called a racist, and just speak to the facts.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
The majority of.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The fraud committed in the state of Minnesota has been
perpetuated by the Somali community. It should go without saying,
but I'm gonna say it anyways. It doesn't mean that
everybody in the Somali community is involved in this fraud.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
If you come to the country and you immigrate here.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Legally and you abide by our laws, I don't care
what your background is. Fantastic, thank you for embracing the
American way. But if you're involved in crimes and fraud,
you need to be held accountable. And that's the problem.
Too many individuals were too afraid to speak up and
talk about a specific demographic involved in this while addressing
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the issue, and there's an argument to be made that
the government officials at the state level ignored what was
going on because they didn't want to make specific demographics
mad because those demographics typically go and vote for Democrats.
There are plenty of business leaders from all different backgrounds
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here in Minnesota, from all different walks of life, religions
and countries of origin, that just want to make a
life for themselves, provide services to the community, and follow
the law.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
This shouldn't be that difficult. So yeah, I understand.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Why Walter Hudson would do a press conference with business leaders.
If those individuals are following the law, why wouldn't you.
They haven't done anything wrong. We'll get back to more
of your thoughts coming up. We'll talk about the panic
President Donald Trump's plan is apparently sending through the communities,
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and we'll get back to more of your talkbacks coming
up here on Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty
and one oh three five FM.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Twin City's News Talk.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
AM eleven thirty one O three five FM. John Justice
Sam next door in the Master Control Booth as we
continue our Monday Thanksgiving week's show from the sixty five
to one carpet plus Next Day install studios looking at
the Minnesota Star Tribune's lengthy article regarding President Donald Trump's
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plan to end a temporary protected status for Somali's in Minnesota.
It has sparked alarm and even panic among many in Minnesota.
Somali community, the largest in the US. Well, it can't
be that alarming. They had a pot.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Look for crying out loud.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
We talked about that in the first hour of the show,
that there was a support for the community via a potluck.
Because nothing screams concern over potential deportations like string bean casserole.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And scalloped potatoes.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The move could return hundreds of refugees to Somalia, putting
them at risk of injury or death. This is according
to ab.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
D Kwani.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Jabaine, a local immigration attorney. That quote, by the way,
I want to point to you, I'm going to work
off through the start tribute article Bill Glahn at the
center of the American experiment. He also has this up
at power Line. He grabbed onto this article as well.
One point that he wanted to make in this was
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that quote there the move could return hundreds of refugees
to Somalia. Putting them at risk of injury or death
according to the local immigration attorney. So only a few hundreds,
which is what people have been pointing out, has now
turned into hundreds more quotes from the same attorneys Sending
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anyone back to Somalia today is unsafe because Al Shabab
remains active, terrorist attacks continue and the Somali government today
is unable to protect anyone.
Speaker 9 (14:48):
Hey, John, great show, as always about the TPS for
the Somalis. I know several Somalis that regularly go home
and visit family annually and come back. If a place
is that dangerous, you don't go home and visit. You
stay where you feel safe. Thank you.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
Can we call this what it is, it's the Somali mafia.
You have an Italian mafia, Jewish mafia, Irish mafia in Minneapolis.
We have a Somali mafia. No, it doesn't include every Somali.
In fact, it's a small percentage, exactly, Phil and All.
It is a mafia game these guys are playing. It's
a mafia structure. And yes, I do believe there are
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people at the state level and the county level who
are in on it.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
By the way, there were several individuals that left talkbacks
very upset at FO of the show.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Phil.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, well, Phil, you're a stupid, stupid, stupid head, stupid gosh, man,
get some vocabulary, buddy.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Phil is racist.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
I'm European and that take offense.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
To what he just said.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, I was waiting for that, by the way I was.
That's was I knew I could trust you guys to
bring it on that ridiculous statement. Although the majority of
Somalis in Minnesota, our US citizens, are lawful residents and
not directly affected by TPS, fear within the community is real.
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According to the Minnesota Star Tribune, many Somalis are in
a panic, and some are even talking about leaving Minnesota
for another state. Sending anyone back to Somalia today is unsafe.
As we mentioned a moment ago with the quote from
the Immigration attorney, Al Shabab is defined as a terrorist
group by the US State Department and controls parts of
the East African community. TPS is a legal status granted
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by the Department of Homeland Security allowing foreign nationals to
live in the United States if returning to their home
country puts them in harm's way. Somalia's status has been
in effect since nineteen ninety one, but is due to
expire in March. And so if you're one of the
handful of individuals who fall under this.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You knew that day was coming.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
There are steps that you can take prior to the
expiration date of the temporary protected status. And yeah, while
you may be assuming that it's just going to be renewed,
one has to at least be paying attention to what
is going on in the state of Minnesota and nationwide
and realize that the likelihood of that happening continues to diminish.
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There were about four hundred and thirty Somalis in the
state with TPS protections as of twenty twenty three. Now,
the Minnesota Chapter of Council on Islamic Relations said the decision,
fueled by harmful misinformation campaigns that we believe have external
political motives, will tear families apart and send individuals to
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a country that they have not known for over twenty years.
That's according to the group's executive director, Jelani Hussein, who
in a statement says this is not just a bureaucratic change,
it is a political attack on Somali and the Muslim community,
driven by islamophobia and hateful rhetoric.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Doesn't show your work on that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
They never nobody ever shows their work over commentary like that.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
What is.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
What can be pointed to and labeled specifically as being
islamophobic and what can specifically be hateful rhetoric? There's a
policy in place that ends up benefiting one particular demographic,
that's the policy. If the policy isn't renewed, it's not islamophobic.
In this case, it's not hateful. It's not being renewed
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because the temporary protected status doesn't apply anymore. And like
I said before, Trump should just call everybody's bluff.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
At this point in time and.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Say, okay, be gracious, I will not move to end
the temporary protected status. Now, I'll go ahead and wait
the one hundred and ten sum odd days between now
and March seventeenth when it was set to expire, and
I just simply won't go and renewed it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
You could just go that route.
Speaker 11 (19:04):
Everyone so up in arms about the Smalley rule by Trump, Well,
the only people worrying are those that have something to
worry about exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Oh, I wanted to share this one.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I'm a little bit behind, but we heard from Eric
and Brainerd earlier, and I appreciated this comment from the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 12 (19:24):
I'm pretty sure Eric from Baxter is the show's version
of Karl Gerbschnitt.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
If you know, you know, it's a good.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
One hundred percent, if you know you know. Congratulations to
those that got their reference. All right, coming up a
little bit more to share from the Minnesota Star Tribune article. Now,
an immigration lawyer says that Trump does lack the authority
to terminate the temporary protective status for Samalis in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's a piece out of Channel five and that headline.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Is holy misleading, and I will explain.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Why next on Twin Cities News Talk.
Speaker 13 (19:55):
One conference plus polm of the Next Day, Install studios
on Twayne City's news Talk Hey Yeah Me eleven thirty
FM one three point five, and on the free iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Hey, John Hans here a representative of the German community
in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
If any of my fellow.
Speaker 12 (20:19):
Germans are committing crimes and are here on temporary protective
status or GPS, I support them being deported.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It's criminals how we want to deport. Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Working off the Star Tribune article Panic in Minnesota Somali community.
After Trump's pledge to end deportation protections, I got an
email in justice at iHeartRadio dot com and Bill writes this,
So I would just like to say that I work
with many people from the Somali community on a daily basis,
(20:53):
and those that I deal with, they're very good people,
and that they are just working hard to have immigrated
here legally, trying to collect a check, pay their bills,
and take care of their family like anybody else. I
think it's sad that there are those who would take
advantage of our system, regardless of which community, or race
or country they are from. As usual, the good people
(21:14):
are not the ones that you will hear about in
the news. Unfortunately. I said some kind of words about
the show, thank you and thank you for that, Bill, And.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
These are not easy conversations to have because you're dealing
with the left who want to immediately use identity and
go and create false narratives relating to these issues that
what we're discussing is purely based off of identity and
therefore racist. There is a way to address both appropriately
(21:48):
and still achieve your goal. You call out the fraud
and then you be open and honest about what is happening.
Fraud in Minnesota is happening, a majority of it in
these Amali community.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You be compassionate. That is the compassionate thing to do.
Call out the reality.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Adding that as Hans did, as Bill did, regardless of
who you are, if you follow the law American born
legal immigrant, you are not part of this conversation or controversy.
Democrats could still go and it would be ridiculous, but
they could still go and call out Trump for ending
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TPS if they want, but at least they would be
addressing the single biggest issue that the state is facing
right now.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
And unfortunately leaders in the community as well aren't doing
what needs to be done because they're not willing to
do it either, and that's part of the problem. I mean,
this brings me to the fact that the police chief,
Brian O'Hara had to apologize after going and being honest
(22:56):
about who was committing the crime that's been taking place
in Minneapolis. I talked about this last week where Brian
o'haro hair I don't know how exactly you say it,
but the Minneapolis police chief, he came out and said
that it was kids from East Africa coming into the
(23:18):
community and causing the problems relating to crime. Broken clock
is right twice a day. I applaud him for being
open and honest about what was actually going and taking place. Unfortunately,
when he did that, he ended up getting unnecessary criticism
(23:40):
coming from the Somali community to the point where he
had to kind of go and apologize.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Here's how that whole exchange went down. We need to
have that Stagno Chief Obahani, I'm not gonna askubahan.
Speaker 14 (23:52):
Heip a channel coming to the Asher community or somebody
had Eo Da Dimkamala and Na monco Ki.
Speaker 15 (23:58):
The Somali community here in Minneapolis has been welcoming and
has shown love towards me, and I appreciate it. Over
the last three years, we have been working together to
try and address some of the real serious problems that
we have in our community. We have to be honest
at times with the problems that we're having in our community,
and we need our community to help us fix those
(24:19):
problems together because it's real and it's serious.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
At the same time, if people.
Speaker 15 (24:25):
Have taken anything that I have said out of context
in a way that's caused harm. I apologize and I'm
sorry for that, because that's not my intention at all.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
He didn't need to apologize at all. It was completely unnecessary.
Any rational individual paying attention to what he said understood
what his comments were. When you get offended, that's a choice.
You're choosing to get offended. People had self imposed to
(24:54):
silence over this issue because this is what they feared
in pointing to any specific demographic relating to a majority
of individuals going on and conducting crime, and therein lies
the power of false narratives.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
The police chief wasn't condemning blaming all of the Somali community.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
And quite honestly, if the leadership really cared, they would
acknowledge the reality in their community and then work to
address it. Knowing that he wasn't going and condemning an
entire group of individuals. You know, if my youngest was
going around the neighborhood and smacking mailboxes with a baseball bat,
(25:43):
I don't know why suddenly now he's doing.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Things the kids used to do back in the fifties.
Beat it an may if he.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Was, and the police said that, well, there's an issue
with the talk show host's son who's going around and
causing vandalism to mailboxes in the nameghborhood. And then I
go and get all up in arms saying, well, you
know what if my other son he's not doing anything
and you can make him look bad, it would be ridiculous.
(26:15):
As ridiculous as that example that I just tried to
share with you at the end of the piece from
the Star Tribune, and I want to share a bit
of what Bill Golah had noticed in this article. The
immigration attorney said he expects Home Land Security officials will
attempt to follow through with Trump's threats. It doesn't matter
that there's nothing connecting the people with deportation protections with
(26:37):
suspected fraud. He said, the Somalis in Minnesota were to
lose TPS, people are afraid that ICE agents may start
rounding up Somali's. These are people who have lived and
worked in the community for more than twenty years. First off,
the only individuals affected would be the small amount a
few hundred that are under the temporary protected status. And
(26:58):
what were those individuals going to do come March when
GPS was set to expire. Anyways, Now, Bill Glon an
American experiment, points this out. That same immigration attorney says
he believes that Trump is singling out Somali's in Minnesota
because of ongoing fraud accusations in which Somali businesses have
(27:22):
been accused of stealing millions from the state Department of
Human Services. As Bill notes, and I agree you unpack
that sentence. No businesses have been accused, only individuals have
been accused. So far, we've seen more than sixty individuals
with Somali ancestry convicted of stealing several hundred millions of
(27:45):
dollars three to four hundred million so far, involving both
the state departments of Human Services and Education and other
state and federal agencies that has already entered into the
realm of the proven All of these convictions have occurred
in just the past three years. Several of those convicted
(28:06):
are already serving prison terms, some of the prison terms
handed down extended for decades. How many persons will eventually
be implicated? So far, there are well over one hundred
defendants formally charged across various frauds. Will the final number
be around one thousand? And what denominator do we apply
(28:29):
to that numerator? It is a one hundred percent certainty,
writes Bill Klawn based on the facts already in public record,
that once we reach the end of the many state
and federal investigations and prosecutions of fraud against taxpayers, it
will be evident that Minnesota residents of Somali and East
African ethnicities were responsible for losses of more than one
(28:54):
billion dollars. Those will be facts demonstrated in courts of law.
It is not support for a value judgment or a
moral conclusion. What we've seen in reaction to the City
Journal piece is a knee jerk response from many on
the left to denying the underlying facts of the frauds,
(29:16):
lest it lead people to make a moral judgment. Representative
Tim Burshett, in the wake of the news that broke
last week talking about this very issue, he posted this online.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
Everybody, Tim Barchett back in Tennessee. Hey, I've been reading
a lot watching the news on these Somalis in Minnesota
and around the area that are ripping the system off,
fakeing autism. And I've got my dearest friends has autism
(29:53):
and he just gets it every day, doesn't get any help,
goes to school, does his thing, has a job, takes
care of his nana and he's just a wonderful human being.
To think that somebody is using that situation to rip
off the system, to me is unbelievable. We need to
(30:15):
get ahold of these people that are doing this. We
need to within the law, of course, but we need
to seize their assets. We need to mark them, no
not physically mark them, but know who they are so
that they will never ever be able to get back
in our country again, and deport their.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Asset as fast as possible.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Then we've got to my buddy's texted me right now,
buddy with authors oddly, and then what we need to
do then is to root out who in our government
allowed this to happen. That's the problem we have with
the conservative movement. We get a hold of these the
(30:57):
person at the tip of the spear, and then we
don't go down to the base.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
And that's where the problem is the real problem.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
Because they've allowed this to happen, they've been paid off,
or they've got they're so deep in whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Department it is that they are.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
There's some guntar that they are able to just move
around to another another area and that needs to stop.
Needs to stop. We need to stop it now. That's
why a lot of people didn't like Elon Musk. He
rooted this stuff out and pointed it out to us.
And I'm afraid you're going to find out you dig
(31:34):
deep enough in some of these scams that folks from
both parties are getting fat off of it and dad
gumming it needs to stop.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Thank y'all for seeing me here again.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Representative Tim Burchett.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I guess said his name inappropriately there or incorrectly a
moment ago, so I apologize. I know I don't typically
go and mispronounced things on the show. It's a rare occurrence.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
It needs to stay that way.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Bill Glohn wraps up his piece regarding the panic over
TPS ending and says we are way, way, way beyond.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
The stage of mere accusations.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
However, just given the numbers involved, it's unlikely that many
of any of the four hundred and thirty on TPS
are guilty of massive fraud. The Star Tribune notes that
given the late date and the intricacies of the bureaucratic
process involved, TPS will likely remain in place until it
would have expired anyways. Nationwide, on March seventeenth. The Star
(32:31):
Tribune quotes the immigration attorney and says, our advice is
to stay calm, okay, but I think it's fair to
conclude that there is zero chance Trump will extend TPS
for those from Somalia status which is said to expire
in just one hundred and fourteen days nationwide. An earlier
Star Tribune report pegs the number of Somalis on TPS
(32:54):
nation wide at over seven hundred. When would be a
good time to panic? And again, if I were Trump,
I would just we say, okay, We'll wait until March seventeenth.
And that was the whole point in the first place
with this, was to be able to have a conversation.
Not that ending temporary protected status was going to end
up solving anything, but it did go and blow this
(33:17):
issue wide open and allow the opportunity to have that
dialogue that we're having right now and that is playing
out across the media. Channel five has a story, maybe
chuckle immigration lawyer, President Trump lacks the authority determine a
temporary protected status for Somali's in Minnesota right up until
(33:40):
he has the authority to do so.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's such a missy leading headline.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Sorry, Long, an immigration attorney from Minnesota current partner at
the Colorado based Fagre Drinker, Biddle and Wreath, LLP, explain
the Trump administration has the authority to end the designation.
Early has been terminated or announced for at least seven
countries since January. However, contrary to the president's social media post,
(34:08):
Long said TPS was not terminated effective immediately for Somali's
in Minnesota or anywhere in the US. So he does
have the authority to terminate it, just not immediately. I
just again, it was.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Such an incredibly misleading headline.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
US Homeland Security Secretary driving the point home of what
Trump did on Friday, she made a visit to the
Twin Cities on Sunday here to evaluate the TPS designation.
Here's a bit of the story from Fox nine as
they were conducting a Q and a with the Homeland
Security Secretary Secretary.
Speaker 14 (34:48):
Nome, do you plan to terminate that Temporary Protected Status
designation for Somalia?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
And on what basis we.
Speaker 16 (34:54):
Plan to follow the process that's in law to evaluate TPS.
It was always meant to be put in place after
an incident or an event on a temporary basis.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And that's what the evaluation will be.
Speaker 14 (35:05):
As Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noan points out, Somalia first
received Temporary Protected Status or TPS designation more than thirty
years ago in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Let me posit here by the way I misidentified the station.
This is actually from Channel five, most.
Speaker 14 (35:22):
Recently extended through March twenty twenty six, amid ongoing civil
war and political instability involving terrorist groups. Here's DFL lawyer
and former lobbyist Nancy Hilden on at issue Sunday morning.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Department of Homeland Security's own website says Somalia is a
Level four risk.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Level four means do not travel, it is not safe there.
Speaker 14 (35:45):
President Trump's social media post calling for TPS termination does
not mention those current conditions facing the roughly seven hundred
Somali nationals in the US with TPS. Instead, he points
to fraud in Minnesota. However, Sari Long, an immigration attorney
from Minnesota, says historically a change in a country's condition
(36:06):
is included as justification, and she expects legal challenges to follow.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
There would need to be more. It can't simply be
that there is this ongoing focus on fraud. In Minnesota
to cancel TPS federally.
Speaker 14 (36:19):
Just to be clear on that TPS, is there a
changing condition that in the country that would give reason
for the termination of this designation.
Speaker 16 (36:29):
Well, that's not under the purview that I have the
latitude to weigh in on. That's an evaluation that's done
by the federal government and that's what they'll look at,
is to see if something from thirty years ago when
this designation was given, if it still holds true, and
if the individuals still qualify for a TPS program.
Speaker 14 (36:46):
But that will ultimately be your decision.
Speaker 16 (36:48):
It will be something that will go through the process
on and evaluate.
Speaker 14 (36:53):
And again, regardless of who is involved in this evaluation,
Secretary Nome is that final and only decision maker. I
should point out that the vast majority of Somali's in
Minnesota are now US citizens and have not been charged
or convicted of fraud. And what they did Secretary Nome
clarify whether this evaluation would be just for Somali's living
in Minnesota or would this decision have nationwide impact. Yeah,
(37:16):
we've been asking about that, and she did confirm today
that this is a federal policy and therefore it has
to be applied nationwide.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Got a couple of comments that rolled in and again
that story there from Channel five over the Homeland Security
Secretary Christy Nome visiting the state yesterday. I did have
a couple of comments that came into the iHeartRadio app
your talkbacks brought to you by Lindau Realty regarding the
police chief in Minneapolis essentially apologizing if he offended anybody
(37:45):
by saying that kids from East to Africa were the
ones that were primarily causing crime in downtown Minneapolis.
Speaker 12 (37:52):
The police chief should have said, if you get offended
by hearing the truth, then perhaps you should reevaluate your
position instead of apologizing.
Speaker 17 (38:04):
I don't think anyone other than left wing goofballs would
think that calling out the Somali crime is just labeling
everyone as a criminal. I'm Italian, and uh yeah, we
got the mafia thing going on, and we got the
extortion and the getting paid for not working and all
(38:24):
the crime that they've committed, and bless their little hearts,
but you know, I'm not part of that group.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Real quick, John, What if these people who are doing
all of this scribe for a community of that size
that they were from Russia?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Right?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
What do you think would happen, then.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
To deal with the problem, all you need to do
is just focus on holding people accountable if they're conducting
illegal activity.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
It's that simple. I have this for Friday.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I want to go here now though new fraud unrelated
to what we're talking about, apart from putting it under
the larger umbrella of fraud. This comes from Cara Levin.
In an Eastside Saint Paul apartment, thirty nine year old
Rick Klemmer was found dead March seventh of twenty twenty five.
The death was ruled natural. The medical examiner cited in
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a large heart, but his mother, Mickey Klemmer, believes was
written on. The autopsy report tells only parts of the story.
Rick battled serious mental illness for most of his adult
wife struggled with addiction when off his court ordered medication.
His past included civil commitments, incarceration, living in supervised settings
(39:50):
such as group homes. His family says he never lived
in his own home. Now that changed in the summer
of last year. He moved into his own apartment, support
by a Medicaid funded program called the Integrated Community Supports
or ICs. She said she'd visited weekly, usually spending whole
(40:11):
days at his apartment. I can definitely confirm that those
days there were there was nobody there.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
There was nobody here. Now Rick was found dead the
Saint Paul.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
When Rick was found dead, the Saint Paul police questioned
an employee with Ultimate Home Health Services on the scene.
His answers sharply undercut the company's medicaid billing, So the
officer Rodriguez asks, when is the last time you know,
you guys know, when have you seen him or knew
(40:46):
that he was alive. Abdul Ibraham with the Ultimate Home
Health Services said yesterday. Rodriguez went and said around what time?
Ibraham said it was yesterday morning. He's the most one
of the most independent, you know, residents here, so we
don't got to do that much checking on him. When
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asked if Rick was currently using drugs, the ICs worker responded,
I mean to be honest, I do my daily check ins.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I have no idea what he does.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
That once a day check in stands in stark contrast
to the twelve hours of one to one care that
Ultimate Home claimed to provide each day. You see Mickey,
his mother believes that if Ultimate Home Health Services had
actually been seeing her son on one to one for
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multiple hours every day as they claimed, they would have
called an ambulance in time to save him during the
medical emergency. I have more details about this new exposure
of fraud. Although we've talked about this integrated community services
before in the broader picture of talking about fraud, because
not the first time they've been in the news. So
(42:01):
I'll provide with you for you more examples of this
coming up. Also, Covenor Tim Wallson his bid for a
third term puts some Democrats on edge. That's the lead
story that's been on the front of the Star Tribune
since yesterday afternoon through this morning when I was doing
my prep, and I will share with you the details
coming up an hour three here on Twin City's News
(42:21):
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