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November 25, 2025 • 45 mins
Jon and Sam disagree on whether or not they like the shorter days, and had similar experiences driving to work this morning. Jon looks at the ramifications of the video made by Dem politicians and a questionable political move by a local City Council. Jon does a deep dive into an overturned fraud conviction and reactions from several parties involved.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hour two for a Tuesday's Stumbling this morning. Well, I
didn't get as much sleep last night because I went
on Fox News and Laura Ingram, which you can check
out if you're on x at TC News, talker at
John j O n j O Injustice, And because of that,
I usually don't get enough night's sleep. And then my

(00:32):
youngest who's working now, but he works late, so he
gets home and then he likes to stay up and
play video games.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
It was up like at two o'clock in the morning,
and I had woken up, and I was like, oh,
I got to use the restroom. I know it's his TMI,
but and I.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Go, I lie back down in bed, and then I
can hear like footsteps, and I'm going, man, what is
going on? I go, I said, the dog would be
freaking out if it was anybody else, right, right, so
you know, And so finally I got to the point
where I'm like, what is what is happening? So I
went upstairs and there he is.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
We're just talking to my buddy. I'm getting ready to
go to bed. I'm like, dude, you can't stay up.
You can't stay up this late.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Although it was funny, I hear on Twin City's News
Talk from the six five to one carpet Next Day
Install Studios. It had been it's been a couple of
months since I've done Laura Ingram's show, and I was
on pretty consistently, and then we just get with all
the news that was breaking. Every time they had me scheduled,
something else came up. So this was the first time

(01:27):
in a long time that I'm gone and I'm watching
TV with Melinda and I'm just watching the clock because
you know, I got to leave ahead of time to
drive downtown, and suddenly I notice.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Oh, it's dark outside already.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Because typically when I go to do Laura, it's still
really right out. And that's when I got nervous going
going downtown. But I see, I love it this time
of year. It stays it's you know, gets darker earlier
and it stays dark later.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm the opposite John, I'll be host you. I don't
like this still dark outside. It's driving me crazy. By
the way, did you have to deal with fog this morning?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Coming in?

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah? I uh where I So?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I live in southern Ean kind of or by the zoo,
and there was fog it was so dense. And then
what really made it weird for me was when I
got out to the main roadue Cliff Row, where I live,
there was no cars and usually there's some traffic there,
and all I could think to myself is like, did
I sleep through the rapture or something like what is
going on? I didn't see a single car until I
got on to seventy seven.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah. I had a.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Similar experience this morning when I pulled out and this
was the first time that I'd driven in fog in
the Bat.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's what I'm calling it currently, I'm calling it. I'm
calling it the Bat. I've been trying to like it.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, I know, I've been trying to come up with
a name. I mean, it's like a gun metal gray
color and none of the other names for sticking. So
right now it's the Bat. But I got in the
Bat this morning and I was driving out and I
was like, what is going on? Because it was just,
you know, it's just that moment where it's like, what
is there a house on fire? And go, oh, it's
just fog. And then it was cool because the fog
was so thick that the headlamps on the car were

(02:57):
just cutting this really just inked, you know, edge of light.
It was like so as I moved, it was just
like I had this calm, this beat, these beams of
light that were sticking out from the front of my
from the front of my car.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yes, that I was keeeking out on the drive in.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Let's say, you're living a tron Yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
You can't you can't see you can't see me, but
Sam will tell you that it is. Actually I was
doing it and shifting like my arms of the lights
and I'm shifting myself in my in my chair.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's right. They pay me to do this. You're fascinating
to talk to and they have for a really long time.
I'm always glad when you're happy, John. That makes me.
That makes the day so much easier. Well, I got
this show when I got tomorrow, and then I got
a couple of days off, so that would explain why
I'm happy.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
War Secretary Pete Hegseth called out those members of Congress
involved in making the now viral video that openly encouraged
the United States military to undermine the orders of their
commander in chief, President Donald Trump. Hegseth labeled the six
lawmakers the Seditious Six in a post on x in
which he shared plans for the War Department to investigate

(04:03):
one of them under the Uniform Military Justice uc MJ.
The video made by the Seditious Six was despicable, reckless,
and false, Excepth wrote, encouraging our warriors to ignore orders
of their commanders and undermines every aspect of good order
and discipline. Their foolish screen sow's doubt and confusion, which

(04:27):
only puts our warriors in danger. I love me some
pete hegseth language. In an earlier statement, the Department of
War announced that it planned to review allegations against Mark Kelly,
who was still subject to the uc MJ because he
is a retired naval officer.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
The statement explains the.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Department of War reminds all individuals that military retirees remain
the subject of UCMJ four applicable offenses and federal laws
prohibit actions intended to interfere with the loyalty, row or
good order and discipline of the armed forces. Any violations
will be addressed through appropriate legal channels. Mark Kelly has

(05:09):
been making the rounds. I'm sparing you from the audio.
He's going on all of the left wing outlets, talking
all tough, acting like he's a bad a and all
of this. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt was asked about this yesterday.
Here is what she had to say outside of the
White House.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
The White House is supportive of the Department of Wars
investigation into Senator Mark Kelly, and I think what Senator
Mark Kelly was actually trying to do was intimidate the
one point three million active duty service members who are
currently serving in our United States Armed Forces with that
video that he and his Democratic colleagues put out.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Senator Mark Kelly well knows.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
The rules of the military and the respect that one
must have for the chain of command, and that all lawful,
all orders, lawful orders are presumed to be legal by
our service members. You can't have a fund military if
there is disorder in chaos within the ranks. And that's
what these Democrat members were encouraging. It's very clear, and
not a single one of them, since they've been pressed

(06:10):
by the media, and I'll give you guys credit for that,
can point to a single illegal order that this administration
has given down because it does not exist. They knew
what they were doing in this video and Senator Mark
Kelly and all of them should be held accountable for.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
That, which is absolutely correct. It's pure propaganda what they're doing.
They knew exactly what they were doing. This was all scripted,
this was all planned because they knew what their response
was going to be.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
And that's fine. I don't have issue with that. I
have issue with what they said.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
They need to accept the consequences of their actions, but
I have no problem with their tactic because they knew
that Trump was going to go and respond. They knew
exactly what they were doing, and they were hoping that
this was going to happen. But it doesn't mean you
don't take action against them, the whole them accountable.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
They're pushing the limits.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
They're pushing the boundaries, so trying to see just how
far that they can go in their potentially seditious actions.
And we all get to find out, and Mark Kelly
gets to find out whether or not he will be
held accountable for the fact that he still falls under

(07:23):
these applicable offenses relating to the UCMJ. And as I
get to some of your comments from the iHeartRadio app.
Your talkback's brought to you by Lindahl realty. Let me
just play a portion of this again, because you have
Representative Reuben Diego out of Arizona. He goes online, says
blank off to Pete Hegseth in a post, and then

(07:44):
in his car posts this video and puts it up online.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
This is being insane. We shall point out how insane
this is.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Hey, this is Reben Diego.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
I'm traveling through Arizona right now and I just see
them use that Department Defense is starting investigation against my
seat mate, Mark Kelly. This is being insane. We shall
point out how insane this.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Is is that there's no argument here. It's blanking insane.
He does no kings, he does fascists, but not once
does he bother to try to explain his position or
to get into what he believes is the nu once
in the language that Mark Kelly and the other five
members of Congress were using in their video.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, it's just an expletive.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Leyden rant that has no substance whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
This is just a word salad with no substance.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
What's really bleeping insane is that they didn't bother reading
the Uniform Code of Military Justice or any of the
associated laws about they shouldn't be doing the stuff that
they did, especially if you're a retired military you're still
subject to UCMJ.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
But maybe they did. I mean, this is the part
of it too. Who's to say they didn't.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Who's to say that they aren't fully aware of what
could possibly happen to them. But we also live in
a world now with activist judges, and we have many
examples of that. You had an activist judge yesterday that
dismissed the indictments against Letitia James and let To James

(09:16):
and James Comy yesterday. Now Pam Bondi has come out
and said, don't worry, We're still going to go and
rectify it. And Caroline Levitt said the same thing. We
have an activist judge here in Hennepin County that has
tossed out a jury's guilty verdict in a healthcare fraud
case to the tune of seven point two million dollars.
So if you're Slot Ken, if you are Mark Kelly,

(09:39):
perhaps you're just of the opinion that, yeah, they might try,
they may.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Try to go after me legally.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
But we've got plenty of activist judges in our back
pocket that we can go and use to overturn anything
that they go and throw at us.

Speaker 8 (09:52):
Good morning, Don This is chuck from green Isle. Every soldier, airman,
Marie Coastcard are all told and trained multiple times that
they are to refuse illegal orders and there will be
no repercussions. Kelly didn't need to do this, None of
them needed to do this. They were out to cause

(10:16):
division and derision, and they should be held responsible. Goodbye,
Good morning John, pastor Michael.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
In regards to these congress people senators sewing division, that
is their intent. And I recall Lincoln saying, you know,
a country divided cannot stand in the same Jesus comments
a house divided cannot, cannot, will crumble. And that's what
they're attempting to do to turn people against Trump at

(10:48):
a deeper level. They won't stop.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Thank you for the talkbacks from the iHeart Radio app
much appreciated. All right, so let's go here. Coming up
local news, the Adyna City Council unveiled the new city
ordinance that attempts to ban the possession of binary triggers,
ghost guns, certain gun magazines, and many firearms within the
city limits.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Oh but they're stopping.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Shard of taking action on it because they know that
they're probably going to get sued. But what they have
revealed is this is all a big setup. I want
to explain to you what I believe the Democrats are
teeing up heading into next year's legislative session. Will get
to the judge tossing out the guilty verdict in the
fraud case, and then we'll return to the big topic

(11:32):
of the week and the continued fallout relating to Trump
wanting to end the Temporary Protected status for Somali immigrants.
It's all coming up on Twin Cities News Talk Am
eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.

Speaker 10 (11:45):
Hey, good morning, guys. The video that those congressmen and
senator put out is not a PSA for the militaire.
That is meant for the average American citizen who does
it pay a time to the news. They see this
commercial on TV. They hate Donald Trump. They're just looking
for more justification as to why he's evil, and they

(12:08):
got it from these people. So now if they do
something stupid, they go, well, it's verified, I can because
they said so, yep, no.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
You hit the nail on the head, Adam. Thank you
so much. Good morning, John and Sam.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
John, you are correct.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's the judges.

Speaker 11 (12:23):
It's not these clowns spotting off their mouth. It's the judges.
And until we come to a place in our country
where judges are punished for their activism by being stripped
of their right to sit on the bench, this will
never end and it will only intensify. So we need

(12:43):
to put these judges in their place.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well, I think what needs to happen is they do.
They need to be replaced when we have the opportunity,
and we need to be focused more on making sure
that we're putting the proper judges in place, because unfortunately,
and I understand your sentiment, Scott here on Twin Cities
News Talk as we continued the show for a tunesday
during your Thanksgiving week from the six y five to
one Carpet plus Next Day install studios. The problem is

(13:08):
that a lot of these judges, they are performing activism
in their decisions, but they're not technically doing anything wrong.
There's a system in place. I mean, in the case
of this story that we'll talk about here, the Hennepen
County judge tossing out the jury's guilty verdict.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
It does say.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
The Attorney General's office filed an appeal on Monday. Now
I don't know which Attorney general we're talking about. The
story from Cara Levin didn't go and specify. But there's
a process in place here, and the removal of these
judges is an incredibly difficult thing to do if they
are not really over the top and egregiously abusing their

(13:44):
power as opposed to just using their power and abusing it.
But it simply gets overturned by somebody else. We need
to make sure that we're paying attention during elections and
specifically to those judges though those ones that can be
elected at the local level, but also make sure that

(14:04):
we continue to elect Republicans to put the right judges
in place when the time comes.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
All right, let's go here.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
No action was taken on a new ordinance by the
Dyna City Council during the council's Tuesday night meeting. Instead,
the council will explore alternative ordinances relating to the ban
of possession of binary triggers, ghostguns, certain gun magazines, many
firearms within city limits.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
The dnah's decision.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
To unveil their proposed to ordinance is the latest development
in the ongoing saga unfolding around municipal firearm regulations. So
under state law, as you know, local jurisdictions are preempted
from passing their own gun regulations. In fact, all ordinances
from local governments that attempted to regulate firearms are void.

(14:57):
Working off an article here from ALF News, the law
exists to ensure that Minnesota has uniform gun laws throughout
the state. Given the closely divided nature of the Minnesota legislature,
additional gun control laws or a repeal of the firearm
preemption law are almost certainly going nowhere. Despite all of this,

(15:21):
he Dinah pursued its own firearms ordinance last month. The
city attorney with the DNA was asked to draft an
ordinance that regulates firearms, despite his own memo which that
an ordinance would be invalidated by state law and cost
taxpayer dollars to defend in court. So the city attorney
instead recommended that the Dynasty Council pass a resolution that

(15:42):
calls on the legislature to change.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
The state law.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
While the city council supported the resolution idea, the city
attorney was still directed to draft an ordinance.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
On Tuesday, the firearms ordinance was unveiled to during the
colouncil meeting. The draft ordinance would ban possession and manufacturing,
or sale or transfer of an assault weapon, large capacity magazine,
binary trigger, or ghost gun within the city. Additionally, the
ordinance contains a firearms storage mandate. Now like the Saint
Paul ordinance, he Dina's proposal ordinance uses the state law

(16:20):
definition of assault weapon, which includes a wide variety of firearms,
among them as the AR fifteen. He Dina's ordinance defines
large capacity magazine as any ammunition feeding device, whether an
accessory to a firearm or a firearm component that has
capacity of more than twenty rounds, or is design, marketing, created,

(16:43):
or assembled to have a capacity of more than twenty rounds.
The Minnesota Gun Owner's Caucus alreadysuing Saint pauliver its ordinance,
had previously warned HEDNA that enactment of the firearms ordinance
would result in a lawsuit and we're talking about that earlier,
which means the tax dollars would have to go to
defend that. When the DNA's draft ordinance was discussed during

(17:05):
the meeting, the city manager said he could not support
the ordinance because of the state preemption law and because
of the unforcable nature of the ordinance.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Meanwhile, the city attorney.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Explained the ordinance would be effective only upon a city
declaration that the state preemption was lifted. So this is
where all this is heading. In my opinion, I feel
like it's all one big setup. We know the gun
reform is going to be something widely discussed during next
year's legislative session. The DFL lunatics have made that abundantly clear.

(17:44):
What I think is happening here is Democrats are teeing
up an attempt to reverse the state preemption under the
guise that the cities should decide for themselves what they
want their gun laws to be. Take away the ability
of the nature to go and be in the state
to be the ones to make decisions relating to firearms. Now,

(18:05):
I'll have to defer to the experts Rob Dor and
others on whether or not that's even a possibility to
remove preemption, But that's what it sounds like. That's what
they're teeing up for to try to get that removed,
which would end up creating a hodgepodge of firearm regulations
that would basically change your Second Amendment rights on the
fly as you travel in and out of various cities.

(18:29):
It would become an absolute disaster. I think it's clever
what he Dinah did and going this route instead. But again,
this seems like it's one big tea up to the
legislative fight that we know will ensue next year. Now
I'll get to your comments on this from the iHeartRadio app.
If you want to chime in on this particular issue.

(18:51):
And while we wait for those two roll in, Let's
go ahead and move over to our next story. Hennepin
County judge tosses out jury's guilty verdict and seven point
two million dollar home healthcare fraud case. So At the
August trial for Abdi Fatah Yusef, the jury heard evidence

(19:14):
that he ran his home a healthcare company promised health
out of a mailbox on a central Avenue address where
multiple other healthcare companies were supposedly located.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
He and his wife were charged with stealing.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Seven point two million dollars of taxpayer money threw the
Medicaid over billing in a personal care assistant scam. The
jury swiftly convicted this individual. However, Judges Sarah West last
week decided the jury got it wrong, overturned the verdict

(19:49):
and issued a judgment of acquittal.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I'll bring you details of this story.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
We'll get to your comments as well from the iHeartRadio
app next here on Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven
thirty and one o three five FM.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Twin Cities News Talk.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
AM eleven thirty one oh three five FM. There's a
reason for the tone in my voice right now. I'll
share it with you in just a moment. Broadcasting from
the sixty five to one carpet. Next Day Install Studios
got a couple of comments that rolled in on the
previous story that I want to get to. The Dinah

(20:38):
unveils proposed city ordinance that would ban many firearms and
certain gun magazines. They have no power to do this.
They drafted the ordinance, but right now, the way that
it's framed is that the ordinance would only be effective
upon a city declaration that the state preemption was lifted.

(21:01):
So we're all looking at the state preemption law now,
which makes these orders by these various cities. Understate law,
local jurisdictions are preempting from are preempted from passing their
own gun regulations. In fact, all ordinances from local governments
that attempt to regulate firearms or avoid This law exists
to ensure Minnesota has a uniform gun law throughout the state.

(21:26):
And while there continues to be debate on whether or
not I should play certain foes of the show talkbacks,
sometimes when they roll in, they need to be played
because they're just that inane.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
A moor zeric from Brainerd.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
I'm so confused right now again, Maga Republicans tried to
make a patchwork series of laws for the weed laws
and wanted different cities to be able to ban it
and throw you in jail or whatever. But he died
as the same thing with guns and now runs up
in arms. To be honest, you don't need a gun

(22:01):
to go to a cake eatery Dyna.

Speaker 8 (22:03):
Bye.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
You probably need we because those lifts they are unsufferable.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Are you are you high now?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm I'm not surprised that you started off saying you
were confused, because your comments don't make any sense. The
relationship between regulating of recreational marijuana is wholly different than
the regulation of the possession of firearms that is preempted

(22:34):
at the state level because of the preemption law. It's
a big difference between the availability of getting marijuana in
stores in various cities and going and purchasing it and
that which you can go and carry on your person
to defend yourself, and how the laws would basically change

(22:55):
and immediately make you illegal in one area and then
you cross over and are now illegal again.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Oh no, I'm illegal again again. It's one of those
circumstances where I go, Do I bother playing those anymore?

Speaker 12 (23:15):
Ano?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
There are many of you that enjoy listening to the
inane comments. All right, let's get some more rational ones.

Speaker 13 (23:24):
My hands can hold more than twenty bullets at a time,
because I mean I have to cut them off my
hands are illegal. Now I can load them pretty fast.
Seems not well written.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I have a good day you too, see ridiculous, but
not in a.

Speaker 14 (23:41):
Changing the gun laws from city to city is a
very same thing as changing the AI from the federal
government that states the federal government should have that and
the state government should have that.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's the way it looks to me.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Thank you for the talkback on the iHeartRadio Apples are
brought to you by Lindahl Realty. Get back to the
Hennepin County judge story tossing out the jury's guilty verdict
and a seven point two million dollar home health care
fraud case. You had this abde Fatah Yusef and his
wife al Ahmed charged with sealing seven point two million

(24:20):
in taxpayer money through medicaid overbilling in a Personal care
Assistant PCA scam. The couple allegedly spent tens of thousands
of dollars of the fraud money on luxury items for
theirselves for themselves. It was not a difficult decision whatsoever.
The deliberation took probably four hours at most based off

(24:40):
of the state's evidence that was presented. It was beyond
a reasonable doubt according to a jury four person talking
with Care eleven, But despite that jury's swift ruling convicting Yusef,
Judge Sarah West last week decided the jury got it wrong,
overturned the verdict, and issued a judgment of acquittal. Here's

(25:04):
a little bit more of the story from Care eleven.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's reversing or overturning a jury's verdict.

Speaker 15 (25:10):
Defense attorney Joe Tamborino, who's not affiliated with this case,
reviewed the decision and analyzed it for Care eleven News.
He says Judge West ruled that the state's case relied
heavily on circumstantial evidence and that she believed the state
did not rule.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Out other reasonable inferences.

Speaker 16 (25:26):
That in fact, there could have been other reasonable theories
other than guilt in this case.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
That's what it comes down to.

Speaker 15 (25:33):
Despite the ruling, even Judge Wes wrote that she is
troubled by the manner in which fraud was able to
be perpetuated at Promise Health.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I was stunned.

Speaker 15 (25:40):
State Representative Kristin Robbins, chair of the House Fraud Prevention
and State Oversight Committee, says she's now reviewing if any
state laws need to be tightened.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
We want to strengthen state law so that we can
get prosecutions out of these cases because clearly a jury
thought he was guilty.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Jurors in the case can't believe the decision.

Speaker 17 (25:59):
I am shocked. The shock based off of all of
the evidence that was presented to us and the obvious
guilt that we saw based off of the set evidence.
It was not a difficult decision whatsoever. The deliberation took
probably four hours at most based off of the state's evidence.
That was presented, I was beyond a reasonable doubt.

Speaker 16 (26:21):
The attorney for mister yusseff Ian Burrell, sent me a
statement today that says, in part, Judge West's ruling affirms
what we have maintained from the beginning that our client,
mister Yusuff, was wrongfully accused and did not commit fraud
or racketeering. The Attorney General's Office filed an appeal this afternoon,
so the Minnesota Court of Appeals will take a second
look at this decision. Julie so Lu did mister Tambarino was,

(26:44):
Did he have any kind of emotional reaction?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
And this is pretty stunning. This does not happen.

Speaker 16 (26:49):
Yeah, he leaned towards the idea that this was kind
of a one off and that it would have a
good chance at appeal. But the worry is that there's
so many other cases just like it, where somebody's in
the exact same position as mister Yusuf, but is charged
with fraud. And if the judge can determine that maybe
they didn't know that the fraud was going on underneath

(27:11):
them in the case, then other judges could throw it
out just like this one.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
All right, do you know how quickly the Court of
Appeals would take this up and probably months. All right,
thank you, this is insane. Just call for what it is.
It's insane. I mean, this looks we had attempts. Let me,
let me, let me put it this way. We had attempts.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
For witnesses and Feeding our Future to be bribed, and
they were caught suitcases, you know, duffel bags filled with
cash for individuals that were testifying to not testify against
the fraudsters in the Feeding our Future case. Like, the

(27:56):
story seems like it's the plot of a crime noir
batman story. What's going on with this judge? And I
assume this is the state attorney general? So I find
it interesting that the state attorney general is attempting to
appeal this ruling. I feel like there's a lot more

(28:18):
going on here than what we see just on the
surface level, because none of this, I mean, even from
an activist judge standpoint, doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I mean, even the judge said, the judge herself.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Had made a comment regarding how you know, despite the ruling,
Judge West wrote that she is troubled by the manner
in which the fraud was able to be perpetuated at
Promise Health, and I was thinking maybe there was like
a technicality in the story that was missed and that's
why this judge decided to go with this. But that
doesn't appear to be the case.

Speaker 18 (28:56):
Good morning, John. The Feds need to come into this
CNUP account case immediately. This cannot be allowed to happen.
Federalize all these prosecutions, get this corrupt head up and
county out of our hair. Get the Feds in here asap.
That's the only way.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I'm right there with you, and you're actually keying in
on some commentary that I'm going to share over another
fraud related story under Governor Tim Walls that we'll get
to before the top of the hour. But I absolutely
agree we need some major investigations, if they are not
already happening into the state of Minnesota.

Speaker 19 (29:33):
Good morning, John Paul from Brooklyn Park. So the judges
dismissing the seven point two million dollar fraud case. I
see that the Attorney General is going to be appealing
this decision. Boyd You know, Keith, he's so good on fraud,
you know, so good on charging people, especially ones who've
already been charged and tried by a jury. But this

(29:54):
seems like a campaign move. Absolutely, That's that's my belief anyway.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Interesting, there's got to be more here. I mean, this
is beyond the usual activist lunacy that we that we see.

Speaker 20 (30:11):
Yeah, that judgment. What that sounds like to me is
that somebody got a good payoffer, is gonna get one,
and or was threatened. But it also sounds like the
vetgin to come in because obviously the local judiciary is complicit.

Speaker 21 (30:28):
And hopefully the judge that overturned the guilty verdict of
fraud is being investigated for fraud themselves searching their bank accounts.

Speaker 10 (30:43):
You don't just overturn or ruling like that or.

Speaker 21 (30:45):
A judgment like that without receiving some sort of benefit themselves.
I've got.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Just two points on this case that mist the fraud.

Speaker 17 (30:56):
Point.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
One to judge that I'm gonna stop it here just
because the quality of the talkback isn't isn't arable. But
let me go ahead and read the transcript, he says.
One the judge said, is too much circumstantial evidence. Don't judges,
when evidence is presented, if it is circumstantial, strike it
down then so the jury knows it's circumstantial and number two,

(31:17):
we've seen the past fraud cases like this millions of
dollars to access and then it got cut off there.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
So, but he makes a good point.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I was also under the impression that typically this gets
taken care of in terms of circumstantial evidence during the
actual trial.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
Hey, good morning.

Speaker 12 (31:35):
Maybe we need to make a video with some of
us in the criminal justice system that we can defy
unlawful judges orders such as the one that you're just highlighting.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
It's not a bad idea, all right, Before we move
on to some other topics here, we're going to keep
with the theme of fraud. I do want to get
to a few of your thoughts from Eric in a
Brainerd's comments from earlier trying to make a correlation between
the recreational marijuana laws based off the cities and the
DYNA Saint Paul wanting to craft their own city based

(32:12):
gun control ordinances, which flies directly in the face of
the state prehemption, which means they basically cannot do this.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Let's get to some of your thoughts.

Speaker 20 (32:23):
Hey, genius up there and Brainerd, Eric, what amendment on
the Constitution is the weed amendment?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I forgot could you let us know. Please, Hi, this
is chuck from Greenile again.

Speaker 22 (32:35):
The right to keep the bear arms is preempted by
the constitution in the state. Shouldn't even make any laws
about it. But that's a fight for another day. These
guys are way off base thinking they can do this
to scare people. So yeah, we got a fight. Take
care about that. Have a great day, and thank you.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Many of you pointed out the issue as it relates
to the Second Amendment that protects right your right to
keeping bear arms, that thing called the Constitution. Here's one more,
all right, here's my opinion on playing Phil and Eric.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Okay, keep playing on. It makes me feel so much smarter.
All right, there you go. Tim has spoken.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Republicans that represent Minnesota, both federally and within the state
legislature are calling on US Attorneying Daniel Rosen to investigate
what they are calling fraud that is winding up in
the hands of overseas terrorist organizations. Representative Tom Emer was
one of the co signers, along with Michelle Fischbach, Representative
Brad Finstad, Pete Stauber, urging the US Attorney Rosen to

(33:48):
conduct an open investigation into reports that Minnesota taxpayer dollars
are ending up in the hands of the al Shabab
terrorist network in some all. Yet more specifically, the letters
says that it is alleged that Minnesota Samali community has
been sending millions back to somll you through an informal
money trafficking scheme. The letter cites a report from the

(34:10):
right leaning think tank Manhattan Institute. Locally, members echoed the
same sentiment and a statement co signed by Minnesota House
of Representative Speaker Lisa Damuth and the House Republican floor
leader Harry Nisk along with the group of House Republicans,
I call for a similar investigation. So you're please, and

(34:30):
I echo those for a federal investigation into what's taking
place here in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
They're not going unheard. Now.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
How much power this has remains to be seen. By
the way, I need to make a point of clarification.
I was talking about Reuben Diego earlier. I called him
a representative. He's actually a senator. Typically I feel really
bad when I go and make a mistake like that,
but in Diego's case, not so much. But he is
a senator. Just so we're clear now, when it comes

(35:01):
to the Democrats' view of the controversy relating to not
only taxpayer dollars being sent overseas to fun terrorist organizations,
but also Trump's desire to remove the Temporary Protected Status.
They don't want to talk about any of the fraud
as a matter of fact. Minnesota attorney Keith Ellison suggested
Monday that his office may be prepared to file a

(35:24):
lawsuit if President Donald Trump moves forward with the promise
to remove some all of you from the list of
countries covered by Temporary Protected Status program. What a huge
waste of time. I mean, even if Ellison were to
go and do that, the TPS is expiring in one

(35:44):
hundred and thirteen days. It's up on March seventeenth, So
by the time they even got anywhere on this, Trump's
just gonna let it expire anyhow. But that being said,
Ellison will probably just go and file another lawsuit over
Trump allowing TPS to go and expire. I mean, right now,
he's got it down to a t what Ellison has

(36:06):
tried to sue Trump some what thirty two times or
something like this already. I mean, they probably just have
a one, you know, one specific forum where they just
swap out whatever the issue is, make it really easy.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
They have what's called a Trump derangement problem. Have you
heard about that problem?

Speaker 23 (36:22):
Now?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
The State Democrats pushing back on these efforts to turn
General Keith Ellison says it's racism and morally wrong. Still
has absolutely nothing to say regarding the fraud that's attached
to all of this ensuing controversy.

Speaker 24 (36:35):
In same as ever, he wants us pointing figures at
each other while he and his cronies run a scam
on America, swindling your tax dollars, accepting four hundred million
dollar planes, denying the Epstein files, anything to stop from
focusing on.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
The matters at hand.

Speaker 24 (36:53):
So my office is looking at every option on the
table to push back against this threat. And because this
isn't this first time Trump has tried a tactic like this,
there are some good examples we can follow. Multiple efforts
to cancel TPS holders, and the first Trump term, we're
successfully litigated. Those lawsuits continue to defend TPS holders this

(37:16):
time around. Recently, a lawsuit to protect Syrian refugees from
a very similar executive order is making good progress through
the courts right now, and we're keeping a close eye
on that. Most importantly, we're not going to turn our
backs on our neighbors. But because of course, Somali immigrants
are good for Minnesota, just like mung immigrants are good

(37:38):
for Minnesota. Mexican immigrants are good for Minnesota. German, Italian,
Irish Norwegian immigrants are good for Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
And Innitionabe and.

Speaker 24 (37:47):
To go To people are good for Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
They are together. What makes us us.

Speaker 24 (37:54):
Weaponizing negative stereotypes and racism against our neighbors is morally raw.
It has no place in our state, no place in
our law, and no place in public discourse around protecting
people from the most dangerous conditions on the planet.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I posted this video up on ex sat TAC news
talker at John Justice, and it's kind of funny. He
needs to get a smaller podium next time. He could
barely see over it. I do agree with him on
some points on here. When he listed off all of
the various people that are good for Minnesota, he's not wrong.
There's actually a lot of some other people that are

(38:31):
good for Minnesota as well. But it doesn't mean that
suddenly you're off the hook when it comes to one
committing acts of fraud. And that's for every single different
demographic that he laid out in his little spiel there.

(38:52):
And when it comes to temporary protected status, it's temporary
for a reason. It was set to expire in again
one hundred and thirty days from now and probably wasn't
going to be renewed because there's no reason for it
any more. The individuals, even though it's only a couple hundred,
if they are still under that category and haven't done
what's necessary to get out from under that category, that

(39:14):
is on those individuals. But this prevailing attitude that though
this is an attack on some only community, No, it's
pointing to the specifics relating to the ramp and fraud
that is taking place here in the state of Minnesota
and ways that we go and need to go and
address it. You know, when it comes to Attorney General

(39:37):
Keith Ellison, I'm not surprised at all by what he
had to say. He's not concerned about fraud. He's more
concerned about the individuals who are swept up in the fraud,
and he's made that known in his own statements regarding
that very issue. Ilhan Omar also chimed up regarding the

(39:58):
TPS here's a bit of what she had to say.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
It's short, don't worry.

Speaker 23 (40:02):
So we are sick and tired of the president waking
up one day and deciding to put forth falsehoods and
demonize whole communities, while the ignorant people that support him then.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Take the lies that he's spreading and use it as
a fact.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
There's a really interesting parallel to what is taking place
right now with this issue relating to the fraud being
conducted by the most part in one particular community. It's
a fraction of that community. Many people have gone and
pointed that out, and they're correct. You handle the problem
of fraud by simply holding people accountable for breaking the law,

(40:51):
regardless what their background is.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
But it doesn't diminish the fact that there is.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
A majority of one particular demographic that is involved in this.
And we could get the problem if leadership within those
communities would speak up to address that particular fact while
calling out the fraud. But instead this gets used for
political purposes without addressing any of the fraud on the left,

(41:16):
and it's very similar to what's taking place with this
seditious six. The video of these six elected officials telling
military to go and ignore illegal orders that don't exist.
Other individuals will then go and say when military action
takes place like in Venezuela, those are illegal orders, in

(41:36):
which case suddenly now it begins to make sense why
those individuals went and made that video, those elected Democrat
members of Congress. The reason I put these two together
is because how do you go and approach it? As
I mentioned earlier in the show, Trump could just ignore
that video and not make a big deal. So could
Pete Eggs at the Secretary of War. And it may

(41:58):
not make any difference and not give it more attention.
And our military will still do the right thing because
they are trained to do the right thing. But that's
not the right thing to do. And yeah, they're baiting
the Trump administration by making a video like that, And
this is what's happening here with the issue of what's
taking place.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
You're not going to hear Democrats like Ellison ilhan Omar
and I don't even think Governor Tim Walls has chimed
to end on this at all as of late. And
you know that they're not going to do that because
this is how they want to continue to win elections.
The only economic metric in which the state of Minnesota

(42:39):
had a net positive gain between twenty nineteen and twenty
twenty four was when it came.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
To population growth.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
That population growth was in the plus category for one
reason and one reason alone. We have more individuals leaving
the state than ever, but we also have more individuals
that are immigrating to the state more than ever. And
the number of individuals who have immigrated to the to

(43:08):
the state of to the country, and specifically into Minnesota
from other countries was some ninety four percent of that
population growth. People come here for various reasons, some good,
some bad, much in the same way that people would
come into the country illegally for.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Some good reasons and some bad reasons.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
We need to make sure, though, that we're holding the
individuals that come here to the state for bad reasons
accountable when they go and conduct their illegal criminal behavior.
But things have gotten so bad here in Minnesota that
even when we do that, when a couple commits seven
point two million dollars in fraud through home care services

(43:51):
and Medicaid dollars and spends that money on lavish vacations, jewelry,
and automobiles, convicted swiftly by a jury you have an
activist judge that throws it out. That's how bad things
have gotten here in Minnesota. As far as as if
when you drive across the border coming in from another state,

(44:12):
you know, most states would have a mentality, a tourism
mantra of open for business in our state when you
come here into Minnesota. Instead that sign says welcome to Minnesota,
open for fraud. It's gotta be the worst in the country.
It has to be at this point in time. So

(44:33):
let's no wonder that Governor Tim Wallas has been silent
on all of this since it broke. That's why I
continue to say he needs to resign. I know he's
not going to, but he should. A good leader would.
I said as much last night on Laura Ingram that
any CEO running a corporation that had a fraction of
the baggage and corruption and fraud take place for their

(44:54):
company under the watch of that ceo, they would have.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Been out a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Speaking of the governor, Gubernatorial candidate Philip Parrish will join
me next here on Twin City's News Talk Am eleven
thirty and one on three five FM.
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