November 26, 2025 • 45 mins
For Hour 2 of the show Jon talks about the University of Minnesota saying that there is a Whiteness Pandemic.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
We cause it that there is a whiteness pandemic behind
the racism pandemic, and that this begins in the family system,
where young children are socialized into the culture of whiteness
within white families.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's so bad.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Far left programming University of Minnesota labels whiteness a pandemic
that you just That audio you just heard was from
the lab director. Doctor Gail Ferguson won an award for
her abstract for the paper from the Society of General Psychology,
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Reading Family socialization into the centuries old The culture of
whiteness involving color blindness, passivity, and fragility perpetuates and perpetuates
US racism, reflecting an insidious whiteness pandemic. The study concluded
that parents' attitudes toward race correlated with their level of
racial identity developments, suggesting that silence on racial events like
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George Floyd's death reflected lower progress in anti racism.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
John have Jim from Oktale, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. If
we're going to get rid of the whiteness culture, does
that mean I won't be picked last for my pickup
basketball game?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Just thinking I actually think you would be picked last
for you for your pickup basketball game.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
I don't know this culture of whiteness does it? Does
it involve being polite to your neighbors, respecting their boundaries,
not screaming and yelling at the drop of a hat
because your fiefees got hurt, Or maybe it's respectful rule
of law.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's whatever they want on the left, and it's inherently
anti Christian while you're at it, judging people based only
on their skin color they want to play. This game
of witeness refers to a culture, not biology. You don't
get to do that. You don't get to have white
in the title and then say, oh, but it's not
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about color of her skin. No, that's exactly what you're
talking about. And ultimately, what are we talking about. We're
talking about sin that's in everybody. But because if you
want to attain money, power and influence, it's harder when
you're exercising personal responsibility and being rational when you actually
have to work for it. What we're seeing here from
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doctor Gail Ferguson, and what I'll.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Get into.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Is that this is the lazy approach coming from the
left because there's a major grift involved in all of this.
Critics argue that the framing is both unscientific and overtly
accusatory because it is the study surveyed a highly specific demographic,
predominantly liberal educated, upper middle class white mothers in Minnesota,
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raising serious questions about the generalization of ability of the conclusions.
By defining an entire racist culture is inherently problematic, and
the framing of all white people's contributors to systemic racism
the university needs effectively assigning collective guilt based on skin color.
Let's look at this another way. If you went and
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switched out whiteness for any other demographic, do you have
any idea the outrage and.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Chaos that would ensue.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
I do.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Let's take, for example, the current issue relating to.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
The fraud here in Minnesota perpetuated by specific demographics of individuals.
If you were to go and offer up skin color
in the commentary, talk about this being a pandemic that
you need to go through and buy all these courses
and watch all these videos to undo this pandemic relating
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to a specific culture, when we're talking about the systemic
problem actually speaking of fraud. If I were to go
and proceed with commentary like that on the show, I mean,
I've be yanked off the air before I even had
a chance to close the segment, before I had a
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chance to turn off my mic. It'd be turned off
for me for crying out loud. And yet individuals on
the left, you know, are receiving awards for this garbage.
I mean, think about the Langstys. Country has gone to
to make sure that everybody here in America has an
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equal shot promote equal rights anti discrimination laws that we have,
and yet these radicals pedal this discriminatory garbage. So I
went through I have all of the curriculum here. I
have to share some of these points with you. It's
it's it's as it's as it's as comical, as it
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is racist, as it is ridiculous, and as it is dangerous.
It is all of those things. So the whiteness pandemic
you have, m let's run through some of this. We found,
according to the research right doctor Ferguson explaining Whiteness Pandemic
paper the public significant statement of the paper itself, we
found that most white Minneapolis mothers again displayed apathy or
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were overwhelmed or fearful and avoided discussing George Floyd's murder
or systemic racism with their children. On the other hand,
mothers with more advanced white racial identity development. Only seventeen
percent of individuals who embraced multiculturalism more fully and felt
less of a need to protect their own ethnic racial
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group displayed grief, concern, and hope, and discussed to Floyd's
murder and black lives matter with their children using color
and power conscious parenting. So you mean to tell me
that parents had different views and opinions on how they
wanted to raise their children, because.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's all this is.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But you see, according to the peddlers of the white
pandemic narrative in mythology, only one view in opinion is appropriate.
Otherwise you are a bacteria or the virus contributing to
the whiteness pandemic. How do we halt and reverse the
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whiteness pandemic? According to the curriculum, if you were born
or raised in the United States, you have grown up
in the whiteness pandemic and you can play a role
in halting and reversing this pandemic, especially if you are white,
because of the power and privilege you hold in this
racialized society. But isn't that interesting that they focus specifically
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on white with the capital W in that wherein in
the previous part of the curriculum it says whiteness refers
to culture and not biology.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And yet right there.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Especially if you're white, because the power and privilege you
hold in this racialized society. So again, as I mentioned,
this is all about skin color. If you were socialized
into the culture also of whiteness during childhood, it's not
your fault.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh, it's not your fault, guys.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But as an adult now, it's your responsibility to self
reflector re educate yourself and to act. If you are
a white adult, anti racist action involves the ongoing process
of self reflection in order to develop a healthy, positive
white identity while engaging in courageous anti racist parenting and caregiving.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Did you catch that? You see, you're unhealthy in your.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
White identity if you don't adopt or in other terms,
by all of the various books and curriculum and University
of Minnesota courses and videos to make you an anti racist.
So you are unhealthy unless you do all the things.
But if you buy all that stuff and you bend
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venan to the wokeness on the left, then maybe just
maybe you can be healthy. And if you're healthy, then
you're not, you know, contributing to the pandemic.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This whole whiteness pandemic thing is just nuts.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
If it is, as she says, a cultural thing, who
are we to say which culture is better than another culture?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
We're not, Yeah, we're not. We're not.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Practical resources for self reflection to develop a healthy white
to racial identity. As the next section in this piece,
talking to children about race, racism and anti racism is
only beneficial if you as a white parent. Again, I
thought this was supposed to be about not about biology culture,
But again they're pointing to the white parent, are personally
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committed to growth in your own anti racism journey. Many
white parents are already on this journey by self reflecting
on and pursuing growth in their own white racial identity,
which actively listening to and amplifying the voices of black
individuals and other individuals of color. Here are some suggestions
for ways to further develop your own white racial identity.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Now, before we do that, though, I just have a question.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
What if I just say, hey, I don't care what
your skin color is.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Can I be excused. Can I go play dodgeball? Maybe
not today, the weather's pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Here's some of the suggestions though to deal with here
your unhealthy white racial identity. Showing up for Racial Justice
a national network with local chapters working to undermine white
supremacy and advance racial justice.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So become an activist essentially.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh, support Black Lives Matter, the global organization working to
eradicate white supers. Listen to talk seriously and follow the
stories and recommendations of Black Lives Matter. Okay, so again,
be an activist. Or you can read the Me and
White Supremacy Workbook. The workbook is centered on self reflection
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as the necessary personal work required for aligning values. Or
you could take advantage of the guide to Being a
White Person or Understanding the White Person in your Life
titled a Race is a Nice Thing to have. The
short book, they say, is extremely accessible and packed with
practical exercises at the end of many of the chapters,
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as well as space to journal at the end of
the book. Oh, that's where you can go and write
about how horrible a person you are. You can also
read the handout on racial healing called what does it
Mean to Be an Anti racist. That offers a concise
outline of what it means to become anti racist as
a white person. Oh, and then also what it means
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to become anti racist as a person of color.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Do I get a badge with all of these? Is
it like the boy Scouts?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Do I get a vest and I can proudly show
off all of my anti racism achievements? Probably not, because
then I'm looking towards merit and there's nothing. There's nothing
merit based about what we're talking about about here. You're
not allowed to go and feel good about yourself if
you've been contributing to the white to the whiteness pandemic.
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All right, there is a little bit more that we
need to get to regarding this, and we'll do that
coming up after we talk with Representative Tom emmer w
he'll give us his thoughts on the City journal Christopher
rufo bombshell story last week saying that the Minnesota taxpayer
is the largest funder of the Al Shabab terrorist network.
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Researchers at the University of Minnesota's Institute of Child Development
facing criticism after launching a website claiming that America is
suffering from a whiteness pandemic. I was encouraged to see
I believe the first So the first time I saw
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this was I'm ninety percent sure that it was leftists
of MN is either a Leftist of MN on x
or it was libs of TikTok. That's the why I
first saw this yesterday. Immediately went and posted a video
up on TikTok and the social media talking about it.
Within matter of a couple hours, while I was doing prep,
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this story was everywhere everybody had it. I was working
off the version here. The website, created by the Institute's
Culture and Family Lab, titled Whiteness Pandemic Resources for Parents, Educators,
and other caregivers, states that racism is an epidemic that
can also be considered a pandemic given its large cross
national proportion and spread. I was encouraged to see that
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this was now being talked about on almost all of
the various websites.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Not the local news.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Websites, mind you, but just my other conservative outlets and
other prominent commentators. We're all talking about this because it
really is just that ridiculous. This talkback makes an excellent point,
one that I hadn't gotten to, but I had planned to.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'll let them go ahead and make the point for me,
so honestly, if they want racist, this is how they
make racists. It's just so stupid.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
The whole anti racism grift is racist. I would love
to have just a quick conversation with doctor Gail Ferguson.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
This was the audio we have been sharing this morning, Todd.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
This is from the course Practical Resources of Self Reflection
to Develop a Healthy White racial Identity. And it's also hypocritical,
as we've been talking about at the very beginning, it
says that this is not about biology, whiteness is a culture,
and yet throughout all of the curriculum it talks about
white parents, white children. And if you think that still
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is referring to a culture, not biology. In the same
sentences it talks about persons of color, so they are
absolutely separating the two out. They toss that, oh, it's
not about biology, it's about culture, because it's almost an
acknowledgment from them of how divisive and racist the curriculum
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in and of itself is.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
We pause it that there is a whiteness pandemic behind
the racism pandemic, and that this begins in the family system,
where young children are socialized into the culture of whiteness
within white families. Our first recommendation is to remember that
the whiteness pandemic is a pandemic.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
If you're further in this piece, by the way, and
I haven't gotten to it yet, but it says race
matters in the United States because racism still exists and
it's going to exist long after this curriculum is deployed.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And to the other talkbackers point, if.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
A lot of people actually buy in to this mythology
that's been created on the left, there will be much
more racism here in America than there would have been
without it. And that's what I would love to go
and talk to. Doctor Gail Ferguson about first off, is.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
She without sin? Does she have no bias at all?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You worked through what she's written in this and she's
doing exactly the thing that she wrote the paper about
the whiteness pandemic, all of the criticism that she is
putting on one demographic of individuals, she's perpetuating the same
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belief in mentality. Critical race theory in and of itself
is racist. And Ibram x Kendy, who's one of the
architects of critical race theory, the Marxist ideology that this
mythology was born from, has said straight up, this is
countering racism with racism.
Speaker 9 (16:42):
John listening to all this professor with doing that thing
with my finger is just trying to break down the
nuclear family and destroy what's going on right now.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, because again this is a lot more lucrative getting power,
money and gain influence. This is the lazy way to
do it, and it's a heck of a lot more
lucrative to do it this way than it is to
have it be merit based.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh my god, just listening to this, Martin Luther King
would be rolling in his grave.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
More than everybody. It's Chad from Delano so, hey, white people,
you're racist if you don't teach your kids to hate
yourselves and you don't buy all our stuff and you
don't follow the narrative. It's kind of a fun little
thing that started up when Obama became president. He ran
on that kind of stuff, and then everyone voted for
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him because they could say, hey, I voted for him,
See I'm not racist. Anyways, have a great da.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
John.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
The most maddening part of all this is that we've
got to pay for that crap.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
My apologies. By the way, I got my mixed up
on Representative Tom Memory. He's going to be joining us
at eight o'clock this morning. That was one hundred percent
on me. Let's get back to more of this. So
this works out, though, because I want to wrap up
this material. I spent the time going through it so
you didn't have to Acknowledging race and racism with your
children will not make them racist, says the Practical Resource
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and Courageous Parenting, teaching and Caregiving portion of the Whiteness
Pandemic Curriculum. In fact, they say, having explicit conversations with
your children about race and racism is essentially is essential
to making them anti racist, I E able to detect
and confront racial bias in themselves and around them. They
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want to They want to destroy the ability of children
just to be children. They want to speed up the
innocence lost portion of our young people. They want them radicalized.
The Marxists do. I don't care what your skin color is.
The Marxists do. People have all demographics pedal this garbage,
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but this is what they want, the nuclear family being destroyed.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
If you have the nuclear family destroyed, it's a heck
of a lot easier to go and influence people so
that you can gain power, money and influence. But it's
incredibly nefarious. And this is not just about this when
it comes to our people, but just the way in
which the leftists want to go and utilize our most
vulnerable in this country are children minors, to make them
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dutiful democrat voting activists in the future.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's incredibly nefarious.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
If you are new to conversations around race, it goes
on to say racism and white privilege or anti racism,
it may help to plan ahead on how to start
a brief conversation.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
With your children. Let's just stop there.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Why would you talk to your children, those that are
under the age of eighteen. Maybe a should get closer
to eighteen. But they're talking about young kids here. They're
not developed enough to go and deal with us. But
we're talking about a party that already doesn't respect actual biology,
doesn't respect actual science relating to our children. When here
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in Minnesota, of under Governor Tim Walls, and signed by
Governor Tim Walls, a child can go and make a
decision that will alter their body forever, permanently, permanently, forever
over their parents. The adults wishes at an age when
their brains aren't fully developed, so they don't care. I mean,
this is almost incredibly less harmful than the other ways
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in which Walls has gone and taken advantage of our
young people. It goes on to write, like other parenting discussions,
one single long speech may not be the most beneficial
to your child's understanding. Rather, short, frequent conversations, especially at
key nature teachable moments are best. What to read, watch
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to prepare to talk with children about race, racism and
white privilege and anti racism for white parents, caregivers, parents caregivers,
and white children. It's a list of fifteen different items
and this is all just things that you're supposed to go.
Places you're supposed to go, money you're supposed to spend.
How to explain white privilege in terms simple enough for
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a child. How white parents can use social media to
raise anti racist kids. Anti racist Parenting podcast, How to
talk to your toddler about race, Keeping with It.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
They have What to Read and watch.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
With children as part of a discussion about race, racism,
white privilege. A book about whiteness called not My Idea,
Anti Racist Baby and good Night Racism from Ebram Xe Kendy.
You get towards the end of the curriculum, and it
says we do suggest that you reader watch these resources
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on your own first, as an opportunity to self reflect
and process your own reactions before introducing the ideas to
your own children. Talking to your children about race. There's
a PBS special you want They want your kids to
watch the Power of We Sesame Street and PBS Kids
Special two. Doctor Ferguson says that she watched this with
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her seven year old and her two year old, followed
by a brief discussion afterwards.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
After watching the PBS special.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Talking to young children about race and racism Ferguson says
that she watched this also with her seven and two
year old, had a brief discussion and they gave this
six thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Six thumbs up. It's a lot of films.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Doctor Ferguson strongly vouches for the Sesame Street and PBS
especials because they focus on the simple but powerful anti
racist action children can use to be upstandards who stand
up to racism. They use dialogue songs and catching jingles too.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Oh which side are you on?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Which side are you on?
Speaker 9 (23:19):
Me?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Which side are you on? Which side are you on?
Speaker 11 (23:26):
Hey, good morning guys. Being smart enough to be a
university professor and then publicly stating that there's a whiteness
pandemic is the stupidest. Saying there's a green eye pandemic.
This thing called genetics that we have absolutely no control
over whatsoever, does not make a pandemic. There's an attitude pandemic,
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for sure. Hers is trash. And if you're a parent
out they're paying your kids tuition at U of M,
you should stop immediately.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
If whiteness is a pandemic, chick to social distancing.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
But I'm not asking them, Oh no, I walk outside
this morning. Get all I saw was white. It's a pandemic. Wait,
oh it's no, that's right, Okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Don't forget.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
There's a lot of ice out there too, A lot
of ice coming up. More mythology coming from the left.
Saint Paul Mayor police chief defend officers after protesters clash
with ice agents during raid. Witnesses reported seeing a handful
of arrests. Protesters were sprayed with chemical irritants and rubber bullets.
You know there's a way to avoid doing that. Just
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don't get in the way of law enforcement. Thank you
for being with the show this morning and for joining
us every morning here on Twin Cities News Talk or
listening to the podcast if you're.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Doing that, as you hear my voice.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Tune talkbacks from the iHeartRadio, brought to you by Lyndall Realty,
I want to play as we wrap up the conversation
regarding this University of Minnesota whiteness is a pandemic development
course for children that's available right now.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Let's go here.
Speaker 12 (25:16):
Hey John say, seeing pictures, looks like breeder got eight
inches of whiteness last That's a lot, Hey John, great
wing Plumber here. So the problem in this country is
supply and demand. There is more demand for racism than
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there is supply of it. Yep, they have to make
it up so they can still be a victim.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Great Joe, thanks, and again it's all storytelling. It's all mythology.
It's the stuff of fantasy novels. It's a lot more
dangerous than that, obviously, in the attempts of what programs
like this want to do. The propaganda that gets pushed,
racism that gets spread, it's way more nefarious. But it's
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simple as forms. It is just storytelling, just made up garbage.
You could take this whole whiteness as a pandemic, and
you could apply this to all kinds of different facets
of light within pop culture.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
People that don't like a particular.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Movie or a franchise, and somebody that decides that because
you don't, therefore you're a problem and you need to
work that out, and I'm going to help you work
it out. I mean, it's just all buffoonery, made up,
irrational with all the different elements necessary to continue to
perpetuate it. None of it is rooted in any sort
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of rational common sense. The whole idea that They kicked
the program off with a this is not about biology,
this is about culture, while spending the rest of the
time going through and talking specifically about the color of
individual skin. This talk back here makes a really good
point as well.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
So I'm mixed. I'm French, French, Canadian, Dutch, Swedish, finn
nor age, and my mom's white and my dad's black.
So fifty seven years old, we've been dealing with this
stupid race BS for over forty some years. These are
just stupid people that can't get over themselves with the
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race card and don't have anything else better to do.
Have a good Thanksgiving and talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
In the curriculum, doctor Gail Ferguson, the lead author of
all this garbage, was talking about her children and giving
six of thumbs up to the PBS anti racism program
that she indoctrinated her children into.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
The kids gave it six thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I gave my niece and that's.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Youw ice cream and skittles for dinner the other day and.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I got four thumbs up. So I mean the ice
cream and skills great for dinner.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Speaking of storytelling, Saint Paul may or police chief defend
officers after protesters clash with ICE agents during a raid.
Keeping with the theme, this is also to storytelling. Democrats
leftists have gone and created this mythology that ICE is
the Gestapo. This continues to be mentality and labeling perpetuated
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by leftists.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
You had Governor Tim Wall saying it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
You had representatively thinking he recently reiterated this. They've convinced
these activists who also power, money and influence, this is
why they're.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
In the game.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
They've convinced them that ICE is akin to modern day Nazis,
and therefore, whenever ICE shows up to conduct their job
enforcing the law, you have protesters that show up to
perpetuate the storytelling.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
They're costplaying. It's performed.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
When they go and take these actions, and then when
they get held accountable, they cry the victim and say,
oh listen and substantiates our claims that ICE is like
the modern day Nazis.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
They are the Gestapo. You even have.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Elected representatives. Dustin Gregie pointed this out. I grabbed the
audio from Fox nine Representative Athena Hollins spotted interfering with
the federal ICE raid, yelling blank you pigs shame. Of course,
she's proudly endorsed by the Democrat Socialists of America. Here's
a reporter from Fox nine talking about their first hand
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experience of what they were witnessing during this raid in
Saint Paul yesterday.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
And I can tell you though, there were two state
representatives aug here, representative of Fina Hollins and Les Kaslowski,
who both got pepper sprayed. They say that was Saint
Paul police doing crowd control and that somebody like stepped
over a line just slightly and instead of asking them
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to back up, they just tear gassed a number of people.
So it's fairly chaotic out here, but things are starting
to kind of clear out. But yeah, that's that's essentially
what we understand right now. I'm looking at a representative
Atina Hollins right here. He was one of the state
representatives who was pepper spray.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
All I know is this story is going to make
Thanksgiving so much fun for me, considering my entire family
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
A federal rate at a Saint Paul Holmes said, awful
volatile standoff between the protesters and law enforcement, drawing sharper
criticism goes to the Star Tribune version from state and
local leaders, even as the city's mayor and police chief
defendant officers stressed that they were not carrying out immigration enforcement.
Federal agents took one person into custody during the operation. Again,
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a part of the storytelling is that they're going out
of their way to mention. Hey, guys, I know Saint
Paul police was there, but we have an ordinance that
says they cannot enforce anything immigration related, and that's not
what they were doing. So don't don't you hurl your
rocks and sticks at us. Don't you sing your songs
in our direction?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So we shall not be moved. Sound we sound?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Don't say to us no, no or no. The concern
evolved in this. We're just protecting the peace. No, no,
don't pro no, no protest songs over here, standing up. No,
there's an ordinance. They can't get involved in immigration rates.
The song doesn't apply to us. No, it's it's the
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Gestapo over there, those massive guys with ice go.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Say go take that way. They're over there.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
They Can'tiotic scene erupted as a crowd rushed to the
operation at the home and the six hundred block of
Rose Avenue. This will now be forever known as the
Rose Avenue incident. I'm sure where law enforcements prayed the
protesters with chemical irritants and targeted them with smoke canisters
and less lethal ammunitions, as if the only reason why
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the ICE agents showed up was to do that. That's
the way this article is written. That's the way all
of these articles that I've seen this morning are written.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
They're all written from the standpoint of man.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
ICE just showed up and they just started pepper spray
and shooting rubber bullets at people.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
This is crazy as chaos. They showed up and chaos
just broke out, as.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
If a group of ICE agents could get in a vehicle,
drive to a specific location, hop out, and then mayhem
and chaos would just ensue immediately. Police Chief Axel Henry
said his department had reports of rocks and sticks being
thrown at agents. At least one protester was seen hurling
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a rock into the smoke filled air. At a Tuesday
evening news conference, Mayor Melvin Carter confirmed that Homeland Security
Investigations and ICE contacted Saint Paul police for assistance because
they had attempted to execute a warrant against an individual
who they were targeting and seeking to detain, and that
person fled from them and somehow ended up at the
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address on Rose Avenue. A grassroots to immigrant to rights
organizations said that it got the word out about Tuesday's raid,
an alert that it said led to roughly two hundred
people showing up at the scene. Again, storytelling, all of
what I'm mentioning to you right now is one hundred
percent avoidable. I'm going to play you the audio from
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Mayor Melvin Carter here in a moment because he continues
with the mythology and the storytelling surrounding the events that
played out. You have law enforcement officers all the time
go and conduct searches, execute search warrants. You don't even
know about it, nobody. There's no chilling effect in the neighborhood.
There's no traumas they want to go and label it.
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It's just law enforcement going and doing what law enforcement
does in this instance and example, catching bad guys. This
person here had a search warrant. We don't even know
what this person did. They could be a.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Child rapist for all that we know.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
But it doesn't matter to the activists to the Saint
Ball based Immigration Defense Network in a statement, said federal
authorities ultimately took one individual into custody, and the Immigration
Defense Network partners are now working closely with the family
to support them through the trauma. Putting this in pop
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culture terms, in the mythology, you could relabel like the
Immigration Defense and Network as the Rebel Alliance in this case.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
This is how they view themselves.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
So it would be, you know, the Rebel Alliance said
in a statement Tuesday afternoon that the Empire's storm trueroopers
ultimately took an individual into custody. We rebels are now
working closely with the family to support them through their
trauma perpetuated by Emperor Palpatine and his stormtroopers. A video
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statement released by Saint Paul Police a few hours after
the raid, the police chief said the Department of Homeland
Security reported the incident during an attempted arrest when at
least one vehicle, possibly occupied by an agent, was truck.
Henry said they went to the scene, adding that there
are also reports people were starting to arm themselves with
rocks and sticks. The chief maintained the department did not
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violate the city Separation Ordinance just unbelievable, which says police
may cooperate with federal authorities but cannot enforce immigration laws,
can't ignore those illegal orders.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Henry said he understands our public is greatly frustrated these issues,
but let's be clear, Saint Paul police officers are not
doing immigration enforcement, but we do have a responsibility to
make sure that laws aren't broken in our city. By
the way, the public is greatly frustrated what these handful
of activists has showed up. Did you take a poll
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of everybody in Saint Paul to find out how they
all feel? Do they all feel this way? Or are
you just simply catering to the leftist rebel alliance in
this case. Carter also acknowledged concerns about the officer's actions,
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while emphasizing that he stood by the police department. I
want to get to audio of him in just a moment.
Governor Tim Walls posted online we are monitoring the situation
in Saint Paul and working to understand what folded. We
received no heads up from federal authorities on this operation.
While we are always willing to work together on public safety,
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that is clearly not what this chaotic situation was about.
The situation would have never been chaotic if nobody had
showed up. ICE would have been able to go and
conduct their business lawfully, which they still did, and there
wouldn't have been any of this chaos.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And Governor Tim Walls, how stupid do you think we are?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
You've separated cities, have separated ordinances, have been passed, your
own sanctuary state esque policies say you don't want local
law enforcement working with federal officials. So why on God's
green Earth would they give you a heads up when
they are coming in to conduct their lawful warrants. So
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let's work through some of this audio. This is Mayor
Melvin Carter being interviewed by Fox nine. I want to
do a start and stop on what he had to
say here and again, this is all just fictional storytelling.
This is it's completely unnecessary. It's all to create chaos, discord,
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and the false narrative of ICE being this authoritarian military
arm of President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We're trying to figure.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Out, what are you know, the ICE agents showed up
with Saint Paul the way they have before otheries and
things like that, and you know, we're we're we're trying
to get onsreut kind of what ended up happening after.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
That, right, what about the community reaction if you got
any handle on that.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
Community members are frustrated, and you know, this is what
we see ICE agents doing all over the country is
showing up, creating how to creating chaos and leaving and
leaving us with, you know, leaving local communities trying to
figure out how to kind of navigate the trauma.
Speaker 10 (38:50):
That they create.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
And that's the storytelling right there. This is what ICE does.
You know, They just they show up in the community,
chaos ensues, they do their business, and then they leave
and we have to deal with all this trauma. You know, Melvin,
there wouldn't be any trauma if the activists didn't get
involved and didn't get in the way of law enforcement,
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if they didn't impede law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Walter Hudson commented on this.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Very video, and he was spot on, blocking vehicles in
the street is not protest. You deserve to be tear
gassed if that's what you're doing. The First Amendment isn't
a license to commit crimes. But this is a mere
extension of that First Amendment issue that we have in
this country. Where individuals want to cry First Amendment, but
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they do not want to be held accountable for any
of their actions whatsoever. There was a time in this
country when we had a better crop of activists.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I may not have believed.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
In what they were standing for, but I could at
least respect the fact that when they showed up to
protest and got in the way a law enforcement, they
were more than willing to go to jail for it.
But now we're in this world of just lazy propaganda
narratives perpetuated by the leftists, whether it's this idea of
a whiteness pandemic, or whether it's in this case, when
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the activists show up getting law enforcement's way impeded in
law enforcement efforts, is they conduct their lawful.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Search warrants.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
And then they go and cry foul when they get
pepper spray, when they get hitler rubber bullets.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
And that's part of the troubling crowd, because that they're
that they're creating.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I will say that we just.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
Saw uh, chemical munitions and things like that that we're used,
and I you know, one of the things I share
with the crowd is I have questions same as everybody
else does. About what precipitated that and why I'm not
going to try to, you know, explain every single thing
or I'm not going to try to justify every single thing.
That's why we have investigative processes, That's why we have
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bodycam footage, That's why we have the use of course
policies that we put in place.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
And you know, I.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
Believe that our police department is good at holding ourselves
accountable for actions, making sure that our actions kind of
pull within kind of our our use of course policies.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
It's just a word slid nonsense. There is no substance
to what Melvin is sharing here.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
He's just running over.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah, people got injured, and we'll have to look into that.
And you know, we have to look and reflect on
ourselves and law enforcements efforts and.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Because none of this is rational.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Unless you're an activist and you're again power, money and influence.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
I'm not suggesting that they don't, but I'm suggesting that
what's important to me, what I've said from the beginning,
is transparency and so that we can fully understand what
happens and why.
Speaker 8 (41:46):
We may have already covered this, but to stay reps
at the Hollands and least because last week told me
that Saint Paul police are the ones who pepper sprayed them.
So does that raise your level of concern?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Here?
Speaker 7 (42:00):
My level of concern started out a ten, So I
don't know that my level concern could be raised.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Let me stop this here again, the storytelling, the mythology
that's being laid out. They passed an ordinance that says
local law enforcement can't impede in do or can't enforce
anything immigration related.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
According to their ordinance.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Basically keeping law enforcements from doing their job of enforcing
the law. If it's related to immigration, they're not allowed
doing nothing with my fingers.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
So then you have these two members of the.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Legislatures show up, They impede in law enforcement efforts, law
enforcement steps in to hold them accountable, and now they
cry foul because they were under the impression that local
law enforcement could not get involved in any of this.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I mean, what's the alternative here? By the way, if.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Athena Hollins or the other representative you know, grabs rocks
and sticks, is Saint Paul police just supposed to stand
there and just take the beating. I'm all right, I'll
just cuff myself just you know, hit away because I
just throw your rocks. There's an ordinance. I can't do
anything about it. Oh oh it hurts, but hit me again.
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I'm helpless because I can't. You know, I might be
subjected to claims that I'm enforcing immigration law.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Can have that.
Speaker 7 (43:20):
It certainly gives us some action items to follow up on,
to understand what exactly precipitated that, and to understand exactly
why and how that happened. And like I said, I
don't have the ability to speak on that one way
or the other.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Melvin, it happened because you had individuals I don't care
who they are, that were impeding in law enforcement efforts,
and law enforcement felt threatened and had to go and
defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
That's a mayor for crying out loud. People voted for
that guy.
Speaker 7 (43:48):
I imagine our police department will be We'll be sharing
something about kind of what precipitated that. But that's one
of the questions that will happen.
Speaker 8 (43:55):
If you guys weren't coordinating with the federal agents to
begin with where you were or work St.
Speaker 7 (44:00):
Paul Police, they don't, they don't, they don't coordinate with us.
They don't give us information in advance. Uh, they sort
of what they do nationwide right now is sort of
just pop up on a scene and create chaos that
local community and then and then leave. And look.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Again, I know I'm being redundant, but just needs to
be pointed out. He's decrying that ICE isn't informing them.
They're the ones that passed an ordinance saying they're not
going to enforce immigration laws.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Why would ICE reach out to you? And ICE also knows.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
That if they do, they're gonna have even more protesters
showing up. Representative Betty McCollum posted this on X Today,
Masked federal agents were involved as she perpetuates the mythology
in another enforcement activity in Saint Paul, this time at
a residential address in the pain of fallen neighborhood. And
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again we don't know what the actions, what the warrant
was for this individual. My office continues to seek answers
about the circumstances surrounding these actions. Let me be abundantly clear,
I strongly oppose the Trump administration's actions to stoke conflict
and division in our community. Well, that's good that you
oppose that, but that's not even happening. People have a
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right to express their First Amendment freedoms, including protesting actions
by their government, but they have a solemn obligation to
do it peacefully.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
But they're not doing it peacefully.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
And again what Walter Hudson said, blocking the street, throwing
rocks and swing and sticks, it's not a protest. First
Amendment isn't a license to commit these crimes. Your comments
coming up from the iHeartRadio app. Those talkbacks are brought
to you by Lyndahl Realty. As we get into hour
three here on Twinsday's News Talk
We cause it that there is a whiteness pandemic behind
the racism pandemic, and that this begins in the family system,
where young children are socialized into the culture of whiteness
within white families.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's so bad.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Far left programming University of Minnesota labels whiteness a pandemic
that you just That audio you just heard was from
the lab director. Doctor Gail Ferguson won an award for
her abstract for the paper from the Society of General Psychology,
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Reading Family socialization into the centuries old The culture of
whiteness involving color blindness, passivity, and fragility perpetuates and perpetuates
US racism, reflecting an insidious whiteness pandemic. The study concluded
that parents' attitudes toward race correlated with their level of
racial identity developments, suggesting that silence on racial events like
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George Floyd's death reflected lower progress in anti racism.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
John have Jim from Oktale, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. If
we're going to get rid of the whiteness culture, does
that mean I won't be picked last for my pickup
basketball game?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Just thinking I actually think you would be picked last
for you for your pickup basketball game.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
I don't know this culture of whiteness does it? Does
it involve being polite to your neighbors, respecting their boundaries,
not screaming and yelling at the drop of a hat
because your fiefees got hurt, Or maybe it's respectful rule
of law.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's whatever they want on the left, and it's inherently
anti Christian while you're at it, judging people based only
on their skin color they want to play. This game
of witeness refers to a culture, not biology. You don't
get to do that. You don't get to have white
in the title and then say, oh, but it's not
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about color of her skin. No, that's exactly what you're
talking about. And ultimately, what are we talking about. We're
talking about sin that's in everybody. But because if you
want to attain money, power and influence, it's harder when
you're exercising personal responsibility and being rational when you actually
have to work for it. What we're seeing here from
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doctor Gail Ferguson, and what I'll.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Get into.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Is that this is the lazy approach coming from the
left because there's a major grift involved in all of this.
Critics argue that the framing is both unscientific and overtly
accusatory because it is the study surveyed a highly specific demographic,
predominantly liberal educated, upper middle class white mothers in Minnesota,
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raising serious questions about the generalization of ability of the conclusions.
By defining an entire racist culture is inherently problematic, and
the framing of all white people's contributors to systemic racism
the university needs effectively assigning collective guilt based on skin color.
Let's look at this another way. If you went and
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switched out whiteness for any other demographic, do you have
any idea the outrage and.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Chaos that would ensue.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
I do.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Let's take, for example, the current issue relating to.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
The fraud here in Minnesota perpetuated by specific demographics of individuals.
If you were to go and offer up skin color
in the commentary, talk about this being a pandemic that
you need to go through and buy all these courses
and watch all these videos to undo this pandemic relating
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to a specific culture, when we're talking about the systemic
problem actually speaking of fraud. If I were to go
and proceed with commentary like that on the show, I mean,
I've be yanked off the air before I even had
a chance to close the segment, before I had a
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chance to turn off my mic. It'd be turned off
for me for crying out loud. And yet individuals on
the left, you know, are receiving awards for this garbage.
I mean, think about the Langstys. Country has gone to
to make sure that everybody here in America has an
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equal shot promote equal rights anti discrimination laws that we have,
and yet these radicals pedal this discriminatory garbage. So I
went through I have all of the curriculum here. I
have to share some of these points with you. It's
it's it's as it's as it's as comical, as it
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is racist, as it is ridiculous, and as it is dangerous.
It is all of those things. So the whiteness pandemic
you have, m let's run through some of this. We found,
according to the research right doctor Ferguson explaining Whiteness Pandemic
paper the public significant statement of the paper itself, we
found that most white Minneapolis mothers again displayed apathy or
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were overwhelmed or fearful and avoided discussing George Floyd's murder
or systemic racism with their children. On the other hand,
mothers with more advanced white racial identity development. Only seventeen
percent of individuals who embraced multiculturalism more fully and felt
less of a need to protect their own ethnic racial
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group displayed grief, concern, and hope, and discussed to Floyd's
murder and black lives matter with their children using color
and power conscious parenting. So you mean to tell me
that parents had different views and opinions on how they
wanted to raise their children, because.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's all this is.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But you see, according to the peddlers of the white
pandemic narrative in mythology, only one view in opinion is appropriate.
Otherwise you are a bacteria or the virus contributing to
the whiteness pandemic. How do we halt and reverse the
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whiteness pandemic? According to the curriculum, if you were born
or raised in the United States, you have grown up
in the whiteness pandemic and you can play a role
in halting and reversing this pandemic, especially if you are white,
because of the power and privilege you hold in this
racialized society. But isn't that interesting that they focus specifically
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on white with the capital W in that wherein in
the previous part of the curriculum it says whiteness refers
to culture and not biology.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And yet right there.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Especially if you're white, because the power and privilege you
hold in this racialized society. So again, as I mentioned,
this is all about skin color. If you were socialized
into the culture also of whiteness during childhood, it's not
your fault.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh, it's not your fault, guys.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But as an adult now, it's your responsibility to self
reflector re educate yourself and to act. If you are
a white adult, anti racist action involves the ongoing process
of self reflection in order to develop a healthy, positive
white identity while engaging in courageous anti racist parenting and caregiving.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Did you catch that? You see, you're unhealthy in your.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
White identity if you don't adopt or in other terms,
by all of the various books and curriculum and University
of Minnesota courses and videos to make you an anti racist.
So you are unhealthy unless you do all the things.
But if you buy all that stuff and you bend
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venan to the wokeness on the left, then maybe just
maybe you can be healthy. And if you're healthy, then
you're not, you know, contributing to the pandemic.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This whole whiteness pandemic thing is just nuts.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
If it is, as she says, a cultural thing, who
are we to say which culture is better than another culture?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
We're not, Yeah, we're not. We're not.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Practical resources for self reflection to develop a healthy white
to racial identity. As the next section in this piece,
talking to children about race, racism and anti racism is
only beneficial if you as a white parent. Again, I
thought this was supposed to be about not about biology culture,
But again they're pointing to the white parent, are personally
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committed to growth in your own anti racism journey. Many
white parents are already on this journey by self reflecting
on and pursuing growth in their own white racial identity,
which actively listening to and amplifying the voices of black
individuals and other individuals of color. Here are some suggestions
for ways to further develop your own white racial identity.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Now, before we do that, though, I just have a question.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
What if I just say, hey, I don't care what
your skin color is.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Can I be excused. Can I go play dodgeball? Maybe
not today, the weather's pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Here's some of the suggestions though to deal with here
your unhealthy white racial identity. Showing up for Racial Justice
a national network with local chapters working to undermine white
supremacy and advance racial justice.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So become an activist essentially.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh, support Black Lives Matter, the global organization working to
eradicate white supers. Listen to talk seriously and follow the
stories and recommendations of Black Lives Matter. Okay, so again,
be an activist. Or you can read the Me and
White Supremacy Workbook. The workbook is centered on self reflection
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as the necessary personal work required for aligning values. Or
you could take advantage of the guide to Being a
White Person or Understanding the White Person in your Life
titled a Race is a Nice Thing to have. The
short book, they say, is extremely accessible and packed with
practical exercises at the end of many of the chapters,
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as well as space to journal at the end of
the book. Oh, that's where you can go and write
about how horrible a person you are. You can also
read the handout on racial healing called what does it
Mean to Be an Anti racist. That offers a concise
outline of what it means to become anti racist as
a white person. Oh, and then also what it means
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to become anti racist as a person of color.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Do I get a badge with all of these? Is
it like the boy Scouts?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Do I get a vest and I can proudly show
off all of my anti racism achievements? Probably not, because
then I'm looking towards merit and there's nothing. There's nothing
merit based about what we're talking about about here. You're
not allowed to go and feel good about yourself if
you've been contributing to the white to the whiteness pandemic.
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All right, there is a little bit more that we
need to get to regarding this, and we'll do that
coming up after we talk with Representative Tom emmer w
he'll give us his thoughts on the City journal Christopher
rufo bombshell story last week saying that the Minnesota taxpayer
is the largest funder of the Al Shabab terrorist network.
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as well from the iHeartRadio app. Those are brought to
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Researchers at the University of Minnesota's Institute of Child Development
facing criticism after launching a website claiming that America is
suffering from a whiteness pandemic. I was encouraged to see
I believe the first So the first time I saw
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this was I'm ninety percent sure that it was leftists
of MN is either a Leftist of MN on x
or it was libs of TikTok. That's the why I
first saw this yesterday. Immediately went and posted a video
up on TikTok and the social media talking about it.
Within matter of a couple hours, while I was doing prep,
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this story was everywhere everybody had it. I was working
off the version here. The website, created by the Institute's
Culture and Family Lab, titled Whiteness Pandemic Resources for Parents, Educators,
and other caregivers, states that racism is an epidemic that
can also be considered a pandemic given its large cross
national proportion and spread. I was encouraged to see that
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this was now being talked about on almost all of
the various websites.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Not the local news.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Websites, mind you, but just my other conservative outlets and
other prominent commentators. We're all talking about this because it
really is just that ridiculous. This talkback makes an excellent point,
one that I hadn't gotten to, but I had planned to.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'll let them go ahead and make the point for me,
so honestly, if they want racist, this is how they
make racists. It's just so stupid.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
The whole anti racism grift is racist. I would love
to have just a quick conversation with doctor Gail Ferguson.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
This was the audio we have been sharing this morning, Todd.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
This is from the course Practical Resources of Self Reflection
to Develop a Healthy White racial Identity. And it's also hypocritical,
as we've been talking about at the very beginning, it
says that this is not about biology, whiteness is a culture,
and yet throughout all of the curriculum it talks about
white parents, white children. And if you think that still
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is referring to a culture, not biology. In the same
sentences it talks about persons of color, so they are
absolutely separating the two out. They toss that, oh, it's
not about biology, it's about culture, because it's almost an
acknowledgment from them of how divisive and racist the curriculum
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in and of itself is.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
We pause it that there is a whiteness pandemic behind
the racism pandemic, and that this begins in the family system,
where young children are socialized into the culture of whiteness
within white families. Our first recommendation is to remember that
the whiteness pandemic is a pandemic.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
If you're further in this piece, by the way, and
I haven't gotten to it yet, but it says race
matters in the United States because racism still exists and
it's going to exist long after this curriculum is deployed.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And to the other talkbackers point, if.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
A lot of people actually buy in to this mythology
that's been created on the left, there will be much
more racism here in America than there would have been
without it. And that's what I would love to go
and talk to. Doctor Gail Ferguson about first off, is.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
She without sin? Does she have no bias at all?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You worked through what she's written in this and she's
doing exactly the thing that she wrote the paper about
the whiteness pandemic, all of the criticism that she is
putting on one demographic of individuals, she's perpetuating the same
(16:20):
belief in mentality. Critical race theory in and of itself
is racist. And Ibram x Kendy, who's one of the
architects of critical race theory, the Marxist ideology that this
mythology was born from, has said straight up, this is
countering racism with racism.
Speaker 9 (16:42):
John listening to all this professor with doing that thing
with my finger is just trying to break down the
nuclear family and destroy what's going on right now.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, because again this is a lot more lucrative getting power,
money and gain influence. This is the lazy way to
do it, and it's a heck of a lot more
lucrative to do it this way than it is to
have it be merit based.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh my god, just listening to this, Martin Luther King
would be rolling in his grave.
Speaker 10 (17:17):
More than everybody. It's Chad from Delano so, hey, white people,
you're racist if you don't teach your kids to hate
yourselves and you don't buy all our stuff and you
don't follow the narrative. It's kind of a fun little
thing that started up when Obama became president. He ran
on that kind of stuff, and then everyone voted for
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him because they could say, hey, I voted for him,
See I'm not racist. Anyways, have a great da.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
John.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
The most maddening part of all this is that we've
got to pay for that crap.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
My apologies. By the way, I got my mixed up
on Representative Tom Memory. He's going to be joining us
at eight o'clock this morning. That was one hundred percent
on me. Let's get back to more of this. So
this works out, though, because I want to wrap up
this material. I spent the time going through it so
you didn't have to Acknowledging race and racism with your
children will not make them racist, says the Practical Resource
(18:18):
and Courageous Parenting, teaching and Caregiving portion of the Whiteness
Pandemic Curriculum. In fact, they say, having explicit conversations with
your children about race and racism is essentially is essential
to making them anti racist, I E able to detect
and confront racial bias in themselves and around them. They
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want to They want to destroy the ability of children
just to be children. They want to speed up the
innocence lost portion of our young people. They want them radicalized.
The Marxists do. I don't care what your skin color is.
The Marxists do. People have all demographics pedal this garbage,
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but this is what they want, the nuclear family being destroyed.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
If you have the nuclear family destroyed, it's a heck
of a lot easier to go and influence people so
that you can gain power, money and influence. But it's
incredibly nefarious. And this is not just about this when
it comes to our people, but just the way in
which the leftists want to go and utilize our most
vulnerable in this country are children minors, to make them
(19:39):
dutiful democrat voting activists in the future.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
It's incredibly nefarious.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
If you are new to conversations around race, it goes
on to say racism and white privilege or anti racism,
it may help to plan ahead on how to start
a brief conversation.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
With your children. Let's just stop there.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Why would you talk to your children, those that are
under the age of eighteen. Maybe a should get closer
to eighteen. But they're talking about young kids here. They're
not developed enough to go and deal with us. But
we're talking about a party that already doesn't respect actual biology,
doesn't respect actual science relating to our children. When here
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in Minnesota, of under Governor Tim Walls, and signed by
Governor Tim Walls, a child can go and make a
decision that will alter their body forever, permanently, permanently, forever
over their parents. The adults wishes at an age when
their brains aren't fully developed, so they don't care. I mean,
this is almost incredibly less harmful than the other ways
(20:44):
in which Walls has gone and taken advantage of our
young people. It goes on to write, like other parenting discussions,
one single long speech may not be the most beneficial
to your child's understanding. Rather, short, frequent conversations, especially at
key nature teachable moments are best. What to read, watch
(21:10):
to prepare to talk with children about race, racism and
white privilege and anti racism for white parents, caregivers, parents caregivers,
and white children. It's a list of fifteen different items
and this is all just things that you're supposed to go.
Places you're supposed to go, money you're supposed to spend.
How to explain white privilege in terms simple enough for
(21:30):
a child. How white parents can use social media to
raise anti racist kids. Anti racist Parenting podcast, How to
talk to your toddler about race, Keeping with It.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
They have What to Read and watch.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
With children as part of a discussion about race, racism,
white privilege. A book about whiteness called not My Idea,
Anti Racist Baby and good Night Racism from Ebram Xe Kendy.
You get towards the end of the curriculum, and it
says we do suggest that you reader watch these resources
(22:08):
on your own first, as an opportunity to self reflect
and process your own reactions before introducing the ideas to
your own children. Talking to your children about race. There's
a PBS special you want They want your kids to
watch the Power of We Sesame Street and PBS Kids
Special two. Doctor Ferguson says that she watched this with
(22:30):
her seven year old and her two year old, followed
by a brief discussion afterwards.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
After watching the PBS special.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Talking to young children about race and racism Ferguson says
that she watched this also with her seven and two
year old, had a brief discussion and they gave this
six thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Six thumbs up. It's a lot of films.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Doctor Ferguson strongly vouches for the Sesame Street and PBS
especials because they focus on the simple but powerful anti
racist action children can use to be upstandards who stand
up to racism. They use dialogue songs and catching jingles too.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Oh which side are you on?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Which side are you on?
Speaker 9 (23:19):
Me?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Which side are you on? Which side are you on?
Speaker 11 (23:26):
Hey, good morning guys. Being smart enough to be a
university professor and then publicly stating that there's a whiteness
pandemic is the stupidest. Saying there's a green eye pandemic.
This thing called genetics that we have absolutely no control
over whatsoever, does not make a pandemic. There's an attitude pandemic,
(23:47):
for sure. Hers is trash. And if you're a parent
out they're paying your kids tuition at U of M,
you should stop immediately.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
If whiteness is a pandemic, chick to social distancing.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
But I'm not asking them, Oh no, I walk outside
this morning. Get all I saw was white. It's a pandemic. Wait,
oh it's no, that's right, Okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Don't forget.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
There's a lot of ice out there too, A lot
of ice coming up. More mythology coming from the left.
Saint Paul Mayor police chief defend officers after protesters clash
with ice agents during raid. Witnesses reported seeing a handful
of arrests. Protesters were sprayed with chemical irritants and rubber bullets.
You know there's a way to avoid doing that. Just
(24:35):
don't get in the way of law enforcement. Thank you
for being with the show this morning and for joining
us every morning here on Twin Cities News Talk or
listening to the podcast if you're.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Doing that, as you hear my voice.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Tune talkbacks from the iHeartRadio, brought to you by Lyndall Realty,
I want to play as we wrap up the conversation
regarding this University of Minnesota whiteness is a pandemic development
course for children that's available right now.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Let's go here.
Speaker 12 (25:16):
Hey John say, seeing pictures, looks like breeder got eight
inches of whiteness last That's a lot, Hey John, great
wing Plumber here. So the problem in this country is
supply and demand. There is more demand for racism than
(25:37):
there is supply of it. Yep, they have to make
it up so they can still be a victim.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Great Joe, thanks, and again it's all storytelling. It's all mythology.
It's the stuff of fantasy novels. It's a lot more
dangerous than that, obviously, in the attempts of what programs
like this want to do. The propaganda that gets pushed,
racism that gets spread, it's way more nefarious. But it's
(26:04):
simple as forms. It is just storytelling, just made up garbage.
You could take this whole whiteness as a pandemic, and
you could apply this to all kinds of different facets
of light within pop culture.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
People that don't like a particular.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Movie or a franchise, and somebody that decides that because
you don't, therefore you're a problem and you need to
work that out, and I'm going to help you work
it out. I mean, it's just all buffoonery, made up,
irrational with all the different elements necessary to continue to
perpetuate it. None of it is rooted in any sort
(26:43):
of rational common sense. The whole idea that They kicked
the program off with a this is not about biology,
this is about culture, while spending the rest of the
time going through and talking specifically about the color of
individual skin. This talk back here makes a really good
point as well.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
So I'm mixed. I'm French, French, Canadian, Dutch, Swedish, finn
nor age, and my mom's white and my dad's black.
So fifty seven years old, we've been dealing with this
stupid race BS for over forty some years. These are
just stupid people that can't get over themselves with the
(27:27):
race card and don't have anything else better to do.
Have a good Thanksgiving and talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
In the curriculum, doctor Gail Ferguson, the lead author of
all this garbage, was talking about her children and giving
six of thumbs up to the PBS anti racism program
that she indoctrinated her children into.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
The kids gave it six thumbs up.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I gave my niece and that's.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Youw ice cream and skittles for dinner the other day and.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I got four thumbs up. So I mean the ice
cream and skills great for dinner.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Speaking of storytelling, Saint Paul may or police chief defend
officers after protesters clash with ICE agents during a raid.
Keeping with the theme, this is also to storytelling. Democrats
leftists have gone and created this mythology that ICE is
the Gestapo. This continues to be mentality and labeling perpetuated
(28:26):
by leftists.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
You had Governor Tim Wall saying it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
You had representatively thinking he recently reiterated this. They've convinced
these activists who also power, money and influence, this is
why they're.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
In the game.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
They've convinced them that ICE is akin to modern day Nazis,
and therefore, whenever ICE shows up to conduct their job
enforcing the law, you have protesters that show up to
perpetuate the storytelling.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
They're costplaying. It's performed.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
When they go and take these actions, and then when
they get held accountable, they cry the victim and say,
oh listen and substantiates our claims that ICE is like
the modern day Nazis.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
They are the Gestapo. You even have.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Elected representatives. Dustin Gregie pointed this out. I grabbed the
audio from Fox nine Representative Athena Hollins spotted interfering with
the federal ICE raid, yelling blank you pigs shame. Of course,
she's proudly endorsed by the Democrat Socialists of America. Here's
a reporter from Fox nine talking about their first hand
(29:41):
experience of what they were witnessing during this raid in
Saint Paul yesterday.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
And I can tell you though, there were two state
representatives aug here, representative of Fina Hollins and Les Kaslowski,
who both got pepper sprayed. They say that was Saint
Paul police doing crowd control and that somebody like stepped
over a line just slightly and instead of asking them
(30:05):
to back up, they just tear gassed a number of people.
So it's fairly chaotic out here, but things are starting
to kind of clear out. But yeah, that's that's essentially
what we understand right now. I'm looking at a representative
Atina Hollins right here. He was one of the state
representatives who was pepper spray.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
All I know is this story is going to make
Thanksgiving so much fun for me, considering my entire family
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
A federal rate at a Saint Paul Holmes said, awful
volatile standoff between the protesters and law enforcement, drawing sharper
criticism goes to the Star Tribune version from state and
local leaders, even as the city's mayor and police chief
defendant officers stressed that they were not carrying out immigration enforcement.
Federal agents took one person into custody during the operation. Again,
(30:58):
a part of the storytelling is that they're going out
of their way to mention. Hey, guys, I know Saint
Paul police was there, but we have an ordinance that
says they cannot enforce anything immigration related, and that's not
what they were doing. So don't don't you hurl your
rocks and sticks at us. Don't you sing your songs
in our direction?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So we shall not be moved. Sound we sound?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Don't say to us no, no or no. The concern
evolved in this. We're just protecting the peace. No, no,
don't pro no, no protest songs over here, standing up. No,
there's an ordinance. They can't get involved in immigration rates.
The song doesn't apply to us. No, it's it's the
(31:48):
Gestapo over there, those massive guys with ice go.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Say go take that way. They're over there.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
They Can'tiotic scene erupted as a crowd rushed to the
operation at the home and the six hundred block of
Rose Avenue. This will now be forever known as the
Rose Avenue incident. I'm sure where law enforcements prayed the
protesters with chemical irritants and targeted them with smoke canisters
and less lethal ammunitions, as if the only reason why
(32:19):
the ICE agents showed up was to do that. That's
the way this article is written. That's the way all
of these articles that I've seen this morning are written.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
They're all written from the standpoint of man.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
ICE just showed up and they just started pepper spray
and shooting rubber bullets at people.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
This is crazy as chaos. They showed up and chaos
just broke out, as.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
If a group of ICE agents could get in a vehicle,
drive to a specific location, hop out, and then mayhem
and chaos would just ensue immediately. Police Chief Axel Henry
said his department had reports of rocks and sticks being
thrown at agents. At least one protester was seen hurling
(33:00):
a rock into the smoke filled air. At a Tuesday
evening news conference, Mayor Melvin Carter confirmed that Homeland Security
Investigations and ICE contacted Saint Paul police for assistance because
they had attempted to execute a warrant against an individual
who they were targeting and seeking to detain, and that
person fled from them and somehow ended up at the
(33:22):
address on Rose Avenue. A grassroots to immigrant to rights
organizations said that it got the word out about Tuesday's raid,
an alert that it said led to roughly two hundred
people showing up at the scene. Again, storytelling, all of
what I'm mentioning to you right now is one hundred
percent avoidable. I'm going to play you the audio from
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Mayor Melvin Carter here in a moment because he continues
with the mythology and the storytelling surrounding the events that
played out. You have law enforcement officers all the time
go and conduct searches, execute search warrants. You don't even
know about it, nobody. There's no chilling effect in the neighborhood.
There's no traumas they want to go and label it.
(34:06):
It's just law enforcement going and doing what law enforcement
does in this instance and example, catching bad guys. This
person here had a search warrant. We don't even know
what this person did. They could be a.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Child rapist for all that we know.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
But it doesn't matter to the activists to the Saint
Ball based Immigration Defense Network in a statement, said federal
authorities ultimately took one individual into custody, and the Immigration
Defense Network partners are now working closely with the family
to support them through the trauma. Putting this in pop
(34:42):
culture terms, in the mythology, you could relabel like the
Immigration Defense and Network as the Rebel Alliance in this case.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
This is how they view themselves.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
So it would be, you know, the Rebel Alliance said
in a statement Tuesday afternoon that the Empire's storm trueroopers
ultimately took an individual into custody. We rebels are now
working closely with the family to support them through their
trauma perpetuated by Emperor Palpatine and his stormtroopers. A video
(35:18):
statement released by Saint Paul Police a few hours after
the raid, the police chief said the Department of Homeland
Security reported the incident during an attempted arrest when at
least one vehicle, possibly occupied by an agent, was truck.
Henry said they went to the scene, adding that there
are also reports people were starting to arm themselves with
rocks and sticks. The chief maintained the department did not
(35:40):
violate the city Separation Ordinance just unbelievable, which says police
may cooperate with federal authorities but cannot enforce immigration laws,
can't ignore those illegal orders.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Henry said he understands our public is greatly frustrated these issues,
but let's be clear, Saint Paul police officers are not
doing immigration enforcement, but we do have a responsibility to
make sure that laws aren't broken in our city. By
the way, the public is greatly frustrated what these handful
of activists has showed up. Did you take a poll
(36:18):
of everybody in Saint Paul to find out how they
all feel? Do they all feel this way? Or are
you just simply catering to the leftist rebel alliance in
this case. Carter also acknowledged concerns about the officer's actions,
(36:39):
while emphasizing that he stood by the police department. I
want to get to audio of him in just a moment.
Governor Tim Walls posted online we are monitoring the situation
in Saint Paul and working to understand what folded. We
received no heads up from federal authorities on this operation.
While we are always willing to work together on public safety,
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that is clearly not what this chaotic situation was about.
The situation would have never been chaotic if nobody had
showed up. ICE would have been able to go and
conduct their business lawfully, which they still did, and there
wouldn't have been any of this chaos.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And Governor Tim Walls, how stupid do you think we are?
Speaker 3 (37:21):
You've separated cities, have separated ordinances, have been passed, your
own sanctuary state esque policies say you don't want local
law enforcement working with federal officials. So why on God's
green Earth would they give you a heads up when
they are coming in to conduct their lawful warrants. So
(37:46):
let's work through some of this audio. This is Mayor
Melvin Carter being interviewed by Fox nine. I want to
do a start and stop on what he had to
say here and again, this is all just fictional storytelling.
This is it's completely unnecessary. It's all to create chaos, discord,
(38:08):
and the false narrative of ICE being this authoritarian military
arm of President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We're trying to figure.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Out, what are you know, the ICE agents showed up
with Saint Paul the way they have before otheries and
things like that, and you know, we're we're we're trying
to get onsreut kind of what ended up happening after.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
That, right, what about the community reaction if you got
any handle on that.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
Community members are frustrated, and you know, this is what
we see ICE agents doing all over the country is
showing up, creating how to creating chaos and leaving and
leaving us with, you know, leaving local communities trying to
figure out how to kind of navigate the trauma.
Speaker 10 (38:50):
That they create.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
And that's the storytelling right there. This is what ICE does.
You know, They just they show up in the community,
chaos ensues, they do their business, and then they leave
and we have to deal with all this trauma. You know, Melvin,
there wouldn't be any trauma if the activists didn't get
involved and didn't get in the way of law enforcement,
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if they didn't impede law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Walter Hudson commented on this.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Very video, and he was spot on, blocking vehicles in
the street is not protest. You deserve to be tear
gassed if that's what you're doing. The First Amendment isn't
a license to commit crimes. But this is a mere
extension of that First Amendment issue that we have in
this country. Where individuals want to cry First Amendment, but
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they do not want to be held accountable for any
of their actions whatsoever. There was a time in this
country when we had a better crop of activists.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I may not have believed.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
In what they were standing for, but I could at
least respect the fact that when they showed up to
protest and got in the way a law enforcement, they
were more than willing to go to jail for it.
But now we're in this world of just lazy propaganda
narratives perpetuated by the leftists, whether it's this idea of
a whiteness pandemic, or whether it's in this case, when
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the activists show up getting law enforcement's way impeded in
law enforcement efforts, is they conduct their lawful.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Search warrants.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
And then they go and cry foul when they get
pepper spray, when they get hitler rubber bullets.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
And that's part of the troubling crowd, because that they're
that they're creating.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I will say that we just.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
Saw uh, chemical munitions and things like that that we're used,
and I you know, one of the things I share
with the crowd is I have questions same as everybody
else does. About what precipitated that and why I'm not
going to try to, you know, explain every single thing
or I'm not going to try to justify every single thing.
That's why we have investigative processes, That's why we have
(40:54):
bodycam footage, That's why we have the use of course
policies that we put in place.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
And you know, I.
Speaker 7 (41:02):
Believe that our police department is good at holding ourselves
accountable for actions, making sure that our actions kind of
pull within kind of our our use of course policies.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
It's just a word slid nonsense. There is no substance
to what Melvin is sharing here.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
He's just running over.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Yeah, people got injured, and we'll have to look into that.
And you know, we have to look and reflect on
ourselves and law enforcements efforts and.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Because none of this is rational.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Unless you're an activist and you're again power, money and influence.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
I'm not suggesting that they don't, but I'm suggesting that
what's important to me, what I've said from the beginning,
is transparency and so that we can fully understand what
happens and why.
Speaker 8 (41:46):
We may have already covered this, but to stay reps
at the Hollands and least because last week told me
that Saint Paul police are the ones who pepper sprayed them.
So does that raise your level of concern?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Here?
Speaker 7 (42:00):
My level of concern started out a ten, So I
don't know that my level concern could be raised.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Let me stop this here again, the storytelling, the mythology
that's being laid out. They passed an ordinance that says
local law enforcement can't impede in do or can't enforce
anything immigration related.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
According to their ordinance.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Basically keeping law enforcements from doing their job of enforcing
the law. If it's related to immigration, they're not allowed
doing nothing with my fingers.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
So then you have these two members of the.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Legislatures show up, They impede in law enforcement efforts, law
enforcement steps in to hold them accountable, and now they
cry foul because they were under the impression that local
law enforcement could not get involved in any of this.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I mean, what's the alternative here? By the way, if.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Athena Hollins or the other representative you know, grabs rocks
and sticks, is Saint Paul police just supposed to stand
there and just take the beating. I'm all right, I'll
just cuff myself just you know, hit away because I
just throw your rocks. There's an ordinance. I can't do
anything about it. Oh oh it hurts, but hit me again.
(43:12):
I'm helpless because I can't. You know, I might be
subjected to claims that I'm enforcing immigration law.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Can have that.
Speaker 7 (43:20):
It certainly gives us some action items to follow up on,
to understand what exactly precipitated that, and to understand exactly
why and how that happened. And like I said, I
don't have the ability to speak on that one way
or the other.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Melvin, it happened because you had individuals I don't care
who they are, that were impeding in law enforcement efforts,
and law enforcement felt threatened and had to go and
defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
That's a mayor for crying out loud. People voted for
that guy.
Speaker 7 (43:48):
I imagine our police department will be We'll be sharing
something about kind of what precipitated that. But that's one
of the questions that will happen.
Speaker 8 (43:55):
If you guys weren't coordinating with the federal agents to
begin with where you were or work St.
Speaker 7 (44:00):
Paul Police, they don't, they don't, they don't coordinate with us.
They don't give us information in advance. Uh, they sort
of what they do nationwide right now is sort of
just pop up on a scene and create chaos that
local community and then and then leave. And look.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Again, I know I'm being redundant, but just needs to
be pointed out. He's decrying that ICE isn't informing them.
They're the ones that passed an ordinance saying they're not
going to enforce immigration laws.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Why would ICE reach out to you? And ICE also knows.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
That if they do, they're gonna have even more protesters
showing up. Representative Betty McCollum posted this on X Today,
Masked federal agents were involved as she perpetuates the mythology
in another enforcement activity in Saint Paul, this time at
a residential address in the pain of fallen neighborhood. And
(44:58):
again we don't know what the actions, what the warrant
was for this individual. My office continues to seek answers
about the circumstances surrounding these actions. Let me be abundantly clear,
I strongly oppose the Trump administration's actions to stoke conflict
and division in our community. Well, that's good that you
oppose that, but that's not even happening. People have a
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right to express their First Amendment freedoms, including protesting actions
by their government, but they have a solemn obligation to
do it peacefully.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
But they're not doing it peacefully.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
And again what Walter Hudson said, blocking the street, throwing
rocks and swing and sticks, it's not a protest. First
Amendment isn't a license to commit these crimes. Your comments
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