December 1, 2025 • 40 mins
Jon expands his commentary on President Trump's comments directed at Gov. Walz. Jon looks at the fraud in Minnesota starting to get attention from national news outlets and takes issue with the "racism" label from people on the left.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I got a question, how could the federal government not
vet Tim Walls so thoroughly at the time he was
running for vice president to dig up all of this fraud.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, I think they.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Did, but because there was such a cover, there's content
there continued to be such a cover for what had
transpired regarding the fraud, which just simply cannot be ignored anymore.
It didn't matter. But this speaks back to you know,
this speaks to what I was talking about with Andrew
Langer a moment ago here on Twin City's News Talk
(00:47):
as we kick off hour two from the six y
five to one Carpet Next Day install Studios.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I think all of.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
This speaks more to just how nobody wanted to run
with Kamala Harris that they ended up going with Governor
Tim Walls despite all of his all of his baggage.
Then again, we have so much ground to cover. I
don't want to relitigate what has transpired and what was
although that will really when we look at when we
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look back at the entirety of Governor Tim Walls, depending
on whether or not he ends up still being the
nominee next year. Because I just think that every single
week that goes by, there is it's less likely that
Walls ends up being the nominee. There's just so much
baggage attached to him right now. I mean this is
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including within his own party. And we'll get into more
of this, more of this coming up, but in total,
if Walls does not end up being the nominee, and
for the time being, like his time as governor right
now would be coming to a close, him being tapped
as the VP for Kamala Harris will be sort of
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the beginning of the end in terms of the ark
and the storyline. More recently, Trump called the Minnesota governor
seriously retarded. This is working out the version here from newsmax,
a term widely regarded as derogatory towards people with intellectual disabilities, Which.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Makes me wonder whether or not Newsmax.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Was questioning Walls and his intellect based off of how
they worded that me that is it may Walls responded
by calling for the release of the President's MRI results
of drawing renewed attention to questions surrounding the seventy nine
year old commander in chiefs health. Really really, Newsmax, Oh,
(02:43):
I'm sorry, this is actually Newsweek.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
That's my bad.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Newsmax as a better job. This was Newsweek that makes
more sense.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So the post was on True Social wherein Trump called
walls retarded. I do have a clip that I want
to share with you. Traveling on Air Force one over
the weekend, I believe it was yesterday, President Donald Trump
was asked about whether or not he still stood by
that claim that Walls is retarded.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Walls and you called.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Him of what many Americans do find an offensive word, retarded.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Do you stand by that claim of calling the walls retarded?
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:21):
I think there's something wrong with him, absolutely sure.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You have a problem with you know what.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
I think there's something wrong with him. Anybody that would
do what he did. Anybody that would allow those people
into a state and pay billions of dollars out to Samalia.
We give billions of dollars to Samo. It's not even
a country because it doesn't function like a country. It's
got a name, but it doesn't function like a country. Yeah,
there's something wrong with wolves, mister president.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So in the post, Trump wrote that hundreds of thousands
of Somali refugees were taking over Minnesota and suggested some
all the gangs were roving the streets. So that second part,
by the way, was actually confirmed when you go back
and look at the Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara and
his comments a couple of weeks back, of which he
had to go and apologize for in case anybody within
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the community was upset that he was pointing to East
African kids that were coming into or kids from East
Africa that were coming into Minneapolis and causing disturbances. The
Newsweek article does go on to say that Samali's makeup
while roughly one point one percent of Minnesota's population about
sixty one three hundred according to the US Census data. Now,
(04:37):
and I'll talk more about this later on because I
have a Minnesota reformer peace that I want to share
with you, that number is closer to eighty thousand. So
Trump is off with his hundreds of thousands in terms
of Somali refugees here in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
According to the.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
US Census, and those are individuals that have claimed directly
to have come from Somalia, it's sixty one three hundred.
The closer estimates based off of available data is eighty thousand,
which does raise the question of how many of these
individuals are here actually legally versus illegally. And the reporting
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that we had a couple of weeks back, actually it's
probably more like a couple of months back of some
half of individuals who had immigrated to the country from
that area may have done so committing marriage fraud. This
was data that was released from the US Attorney. So
if Trump were to go and launch expansive immigration operations
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here in Minnesota, which I'm hearing reporting he is planning
on doing, that is one area in which immigrations and
customs enforcement and border patrol could go and target. The
newsweak article goes on to say crime rates in Minnesota
are influenced by many factors. There is no credible data
showing some all the gangs are responsible for the widespread violence.
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But again you had Minneamplis's own police chief stating such.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And listen, not all.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Somali's commit fraud, but of the total fraud, seventy five
percent of that total fraud has been committed by those
from the Somali community, and in large part that community's
leadership has been silent on the issue. There is an editorial,
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as I mentioned, from the Minnesota reformer that I'll share
with you later on. And this is one of the
first times that I've actually seen an individual from the
Somali community that's willing to step up and call out
the fraud or at least mention I shouldn't say call out,
because they don't really call it out, but.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
At least mention.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That the majority of the fraud that's been discovered here
in Minnesota has been committed by those from the Somali community.
Here's what's some Governor Chim Walls had to say on
NBC over the weekend Christian Welker regarding Trump and calling
him retarded.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Look, Donald Trump insulting me as a badge of honor
for me, but I think we all know as both
as a educator for a couple decades and as a parent,
using that term is just so damaging.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It's hurtful.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, because Walls has never gone and used any sort
of you know, hurtful terminology in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
I'm getting called out on this because I called Donald
Trump a wanna be dictator.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's because he is. It's because he is.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Oh, the governor's being mean, and the governor's speaking out
on that.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Well, maybe it's time for us to be a little meaner.
Maybe it's time for us to be a little more fierce.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
The last person that ever can take the high ground
over bullying tactics calling individuals' names not be a hypocrite
is Governor Tim Walls. They didn't keep Jennifer Brooks in
The Star Tribune from rushing to Walls's defense in the
wake of the President to calling him those.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Derogatory terms.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Brooks writes this, Tim Walls knows how bullies operates, how
bullies operate. Well, sure he does, because he's a bully himself.
That's not a point that she makes. That's the point
that I'm making, Jennifer Brooks says, Minnesota's governor responds to
the president who called him the R word. She writes,
Minnesota Governor Tim Walls Todd High school. He's the parent
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of a child with special needs. He's heard the R
word before. He's heard it from playground bullies, He's heard
it from online trolls. Does she really know that? Or
is she just making a lot of assumptions there? Does
she talk to Walls before this?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Did she questioned him as if that was the case
or not? A curiosity, just.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Just wondering now he's heard it for the president of
the United States, She writes. The President's insult comes as
Minnesota prepares to host the twenty twenty six Special Olympic
US Games in June, Okay, and nine nine percent of individuals,
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those with disabilities and those without understand. I'm not saying
that you should be going you should go around calling
people that term. I'm not saying that at all, But
most people understand that terminology is used exclusively in a
derogatory way toward an individual who is acting out of
character and doing something stupid, a person who is not
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dealing with any mental disabilities. If that doesn't include you,
then most people go, that doesn't include me. Walls said,
this is not both sides ism. This is clearly one
side Donald Trump, and that is clearly him trying to
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divide this country and thinks that it's beneficial to him politically. Really,
Governor Tim Wall said that, okay, here's a bit of
a before and after of Walls, by the way, but.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Look, this is what Donald Trump has done.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
He's normalized this type of hateful behavior and this type
of language.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Well, maybe it's time.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
For us to be a little meaner, and when it's
adult like Donald Trump, you bully the shit out of
him back.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
What we should demonize is people like Elon Musk. Although
I will say this, the last few days you woke
up thinking there might be news, just saying just saying
there will be news sometimes just so you know there
will be news.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Again, Walls has no leg to stand on whatsoever.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Jennifer Brooks goes on to say there's a pattern to
Trump's holiday greetings subject plus verb plus insult. She put
in his latest truth the Social Post, a very happy
Thanksgiving salutation to all of our great American citizens and
patriots who have been so nice in allowing our country
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to be divided, disrupted, carved up, murdered, beaten, mugged and
laughed at along with certain other foolish countries throughout the
world for being politically correct and just playing stupid when
it comes to immigration.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And he's not wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Jennifer Brooks doesn't like that, though, not that Jennifer Brooks
would like anything that that President Donald Trump had to say.
There was nothing in the lengthy message Walls noted about
Trump's family or the things he was grateful for in
his life. Why isn't he with his family lamented Governor
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Jim Walls. Why aren't they celebrating. Why aren't they playing yachtzie, that's.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What we're doing.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I don't get it, like Walls cares. She goes on
to talk about Gus Walls, saying that he also heard
the R word last year. Gus's proud father wishes America
would follow his younger son's lead, saying that he just
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blocked it out. Wallsman on to say, people who do
things like this you don't associate with. I really wish
America America would start to understand that this has nothing
to do with conservative policy, It has nothing to do
with climate change. It has everything to do with at
heart just being cruel. He added, the cruelties at the
center of his agenda. That's the end of the piece
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from Jennifer Brooks. And I would have look if she
were to have acknowledge the obvious comparison of what I've
done on the show, of the language that Walls uses.
And I played for you the audio the time when
he went on the podcast and say that he would
kick gops, but the doom scrolling, the red hats, the
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being entertained by falling Tesla's stock. The bad Ankle's comment,
I'd at least give her credit for being consistent in
her criticism, but.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
She doesn't want to mention.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
How Walls is the closest Democrat avnar of Trump as
it relates to his colorful language and therefore this is
just another hack Walls propaganda puff piece at a time
when he desperately needs it. Coming up, we have more
audio to share Sunday, during his appearance with Meet the
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Press and Kristin Welker, Walls did fire back at Trump
and the accusation of incompetence dodging responsibility. Though when it
comes for the fraud his comments, we're gonna break them
all down. If you haven't seen these yet, do not
go anywhere. We'll get to it next and your talkbacks
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Speaker 2 (14:04):
Okay, Walls apparently was saying why wasn't Trump with his family?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
They had a huge Thanksgiving celebration.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
At mar Lago.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It was everywhere online.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Tells me that he doesn't look and see what's going
on in the United States.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Walls is too busy.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Of pocketing money from all the griston Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh, he's just a liar. That's really what it comes
down to. Governor Tim Walls is just a straight up liar.
He has no interest in seeking the truth. He'll make
up whatever he needs to make up on the fly
to protect his own political standing.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Borney John and Crewe Paul here over in Bloomington, friend
of the.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Show, I am just baffled.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
If we remember Sarah Palin.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Had a special needs child and the vitrio that came
to that family was unbelievable. Now these saying people are
standing up and defending which one is it?
Speaker 10 (15:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Have a great day.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
There's no there's no level of consistency. There's nothing but
hypocrisy as far as the eye can see. Twin City's
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Speaker 1 (15:27):
Tim Walls did.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Take aim at Trump's criticism of the Somali community when
pressed on whether he took responsibility for failing to stop
the fraud in Minnesota, several within the community were charged
in connection with the frauds cheam.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That's an understatement.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So he was on Meet the Press with host Christian
Welker asked if he wanted to take responsibility for failing
to stop fraud in the state. This is what Governor
Tim Walls had to say.
Speaker 11 (15:53):
Dozens of people of East African descent have been charged, convicted,
and sentenced for stealing more than a billion taxpayer money
from government programs during COVID. As you know, Governor, that
is more than Minnesota spends each year to run its
Department of Correction. So I want to give you a
chance to respond to this. Do you take responsibility for
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failing to stop this fraud in your state?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Well, certainly, I take responsibility for putting people in jail.
Governors don't get to just talk. Theoretically, we have.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
To solve problems, and I will note it's not first off,
they'll take responsibility for putting people in jail. So he
still isn't going to take any sort of leadership responsibility
whatsoever for what's transpired. You can do that and still
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say phase. I mean, any good leader would do that.
Any good leader would say yes, of course, I am
the governor of the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
This has been happening on my watch.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
And then you add in the subsequent and I'm going
to do everything I need to do about it. All
you're pushback on Trump and everything else. The video on
the clip is really telling because Walls is clearly looking
for the words in how to respond to Christian Welker.
In the moment, you can see I know that look,
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I've had that look when you're doing these remote hits.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Just Somali's Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota's a prosperous days,
a well run state or triple A bond rated. But
that attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. We're
doing everything we can, but to demonize an entire community.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
On the actions of a few, it's lazy.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, what's lazy is what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And the clip it's interesting because he says, well, they're
you know, the Somali community aren't the only ones committing fraud.
So at least he's admitting that other individuals are committing fraud.
But when you look at the numbers, you're looking at
seventy one of the seventy five people charged with feeding
our future are of East African descent. Walls hasn't done
anything other than enable this to happen, and focusing on
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facts is not racism. This is where things get lazy
when people simply go and tout racism. Lazy is exactly
the way that you would describe somebody who was willfully
ignoring the explosion in state funding requests coming from the
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social service programs created mostly by the DFL. You have
many individuals again facts. You have many Somali families who
took cash bribes, as has been reported in multiple stories
regarding daycare fraud, autism fraud, housing a stableization services.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
You had some only families.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Taking cash bribes in one instance to have their non
autistic children enrolled in the fraudulent services program so that
the fraud could actually go and be committed.
Speaker 10 (19:18):
Good morning, John Sam. I want the first preface that
there are many good people of all ethnicities in the world. However,
when they're crime being committed, you have to drill down
into who is committing these crimes. And I know of
a woman who is a police officer at the Saint
Paul Minnapolis International Airport and she said it's the Somalian
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eighteen to thirty somethings that hijack the rental cars, smash
them up in the parking ramps and then flee.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
There you go again. The lazy thing is to just
call it racist.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
That's the lazy thing to do, to not give a
thorough examination of what is actually taking place here. The
majority of of individuals here who immigrated from Somalia are
not conducting the crimes. But of the crimes, especially the
fraud being perpetuated, the majority of those crimes are being
perpetuated by people who are from Somalia. These are all
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just facts. It has nothing to do with the skin
color of individuals. It has a lot to do with
the background that individuals were raised in in their country
of origin. That's the difficult, non lazy thing that's being
tackled right now, not only at the state level by
those that want to see something actually getting done about fraud,
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but also what President Donald Trump is now talking about
at the federal level. We'll get some more of your
comments coming up. We'll dive into the New York Times
article how fraud swamped Minnesota's social services system under Tim
Walls's watch, and then I'll share with you what the
Minnesota Underscore DHS at Minnesota under or DHS apparently apparently
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reportedly representing some four hundred and eighty members of the
Department of Human Services here in Minnesota, and they put
up a post late last week, Tim Walls is one
hundred percent responsible for massive fraud here in Minnesota. We'll
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John Justice along with Sam and the Master Control Booth. So,
I want to get into the New York Times and
what this account associated with the employees of the Minnesota
Department of Human Services had to say.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Before we do that, let me play this clip really.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Quick because it's kind of it's kind of it's kind
of funny, and it all relates to what we are
talking about this morning. But in response to President Donald
Trump in a true social post to saying that Governor
Tim Walls was retarded, this was the response from Walls
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on Meet the Press over the over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Well, here we got a guy on Thanksgiving where we
spent time with our families, We ate, we played yachtza,
we cheered for football or whatever. This guy is apparently
in a room ranting about everything else.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
This is not normal behavior. It is not healthy.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
And presidents throughout time have released a couple things. They've
released their tax returns, not Donald Trump. And they've released
their medical records, not Donald Trump. And look, the MRI
is one thing. But I think what's most concerning about
this is, as your viewers out there are listening, has
anyone in the history of the world ever have an
MRI assigned to them and have no idea.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
What it was for? As he says, So, look.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
It's clear the presence fading physically, I think the mental
capacity again ranting you.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Know, let me stop here. I'm just I won't subject
to you.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I have more walls clips to share, so I won't
subject you to more of that one than you have to.
With regard to the last thing he said, has anybody
ever had an MRI and they didn't know what they
were giving it?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Getting an MRI for.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I just saw an ad for a cyber deal for
a company that offers up services wherein you can get
an MRI done just to have your body looked at,
and then the MRI will go and expose whether or
not you are dealing with any particular issues. He was
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just it was only ten minutes ago, Cyber Monday, for
whatever the company's name was, get an MRI. I get
what every single year now for me, specifically, we're looking
at the issues relating to my heart, but there's other
things that have popped up before with those MRIs. Sometimes
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they're just routine, and it's really rich for Governor Tim
Walls to be using that line of attack when you
consider the other big news item that dropped last week
from the Minnesota Star Tribune. And I'll work off the
version here from Bill Glahn covering this at center the
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American Experiment. But the state withholds records on fraud cases
from the Star Tribune, Minnesota can release records on medicaid
providers accused of fraud.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
But it won't.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
So here you have the Star Tribune actually doing journalism,
which is somewhat shocking. But they wrote this just two
months after the jury delivered guilty verdict in the eye
popping feeding our future fraud Minnesota lawmakers voted to give
state agencies brought authority to stop payments to individuals and
companies suspected of defrauding the government, as they also allowed
the Minnesota Department of Human Services to disclose when it's
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withholding payments from a company over credible allegations of fraud.
But while DHS requested the ability to disclose that information,
often it won't.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So perhaps Governor.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Tim Walls, as others have noted online, should stop complaining
and release the MRI results as a tactic to try
to undermine Trump and maybe get more focused on having
DHS release the information regarding the records of the fraud cases.
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President Donald Trump was asked about the MRI line on
his travels on Air Force One. This is what he
had to say.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Will you tell us why it was, Governor Wolves, I
mean the incompetent governor.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
So if they want to release it, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
With me to release it. It's perfect.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's like my phone call where I got it peached.
It's absolutely perfect.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
So if you want to hear about it, or if
you want to.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Release it, do you want to have it released?
Speaker 7 (26:18):
News station failing failing, News station fail news nation is doing.
It allows you, by the way, but if you want
to have it released, I'll release its want releasing?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
No, no, no, What part of your body was the I.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Have no idea which is an run What part of
the body it wasn't the brain because I took a
tact that it fests DIASTI and I got a perfect mark,
which you would be incapable of doing anybody. Everybody you do.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It really is the best. Yeah, and there's nothing surprising
about that. It's like I just got an MRI I done.
That was all.
Speaker 10 (26:53):
I just.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Does a routine check up. People get them all the time,
as I mentioned.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
They actually you can get one on your own, just
go through particular services. So the timeline of how all
this played out everything got ramped up last week, dovetailing
off of the reporting from City Journal, The New York
Times got in on the action.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
How fraud swamped.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Minnesota social services system under Tim Walls's watch. Prosecutors say
members of the Somali despora, a group with growing political power,
were largely responsible. President Trump has drawn national attention to
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the scandal amid his crackdown on immigration. Federal prosecutors charged
dozens of people with felonies. I'm reading from the New
York Times piece now. The fraud scandal that rattled Minnesota
was staggering in its scale and brazenness. Visuals acused of
sealing hundreds of millions of dollars from a government program
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meant to keep children fed during the COVID nineteen pandemic.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
At first, many in.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
The States saw the case as a one off abuse
during a health emergency. But as new schemes at targeting
the state's generous safety net programs came to lights, state
and federal officials began to grapple with a jarring reality.
Over the last five years, law enforcement officials say fraud
it took root in pockets of Minnesota's Somali community as
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scores of individuals made small fortunes by setting up companies
that build state agencies for millions of dollars worth of
social services that were never provided. Fifty nine people convicted
in the scheme. So far, more than one billion in
taxpayer money was stolen in three plots that they are
currently investigating. That is more than Minnesota spends annually in
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its Department of Corrections. Minnesota fraud scandal even stood out
in this context of the rampant theft during the pandemic,
when Americans sole tens of billions through unemployment benefits, business loans,
and other.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Forms of aid.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Outrage has swelled among Minnesotans, and fraud has turned into
the political potent political issue in a competitive campaign season.
Governor Tim Watson fellow Democrats are being asked to explain
how so much money was stolen on their watch, providing
Republicans who hoped to take back the governor's office in
twenty twenty six with a powerful line of attack. In
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recent days, President Donald Trump weighed in calling Minnesota a
hub of fraudulent money laundering activity, saying that some ally
perpetrators should be sent back to where they came from.
So again, when you go down the timeline here you
have the City Journal reporting and I'm I'm not including
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what's been covered in the past by Alphinus, Liz Colin,
by those over it American experiment. I'm not covering. I'm
not referring to everything that's come beforehand. We've been talking
about a lot of these issues for a long time.
I'm just talking about the most recent timeline that brings
Minnesota to national attention. So you had the City Journal
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reporting going back two weeks, you had Trump move to
end the temporary protect the status.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Which was solely to.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Bring to raise the profile of everything that was taking place,
and specifically that City Journal reporting that happened. You had
the controversial, controversial ice raid in Saint Paul. I'll have
more on that next hour or two cover. We now
have the background on the individual that all the protesters
showed up to go and defend. Then of course we
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had the members of our National Guard that were shot
last week, along with the individual from Afghanistan who also
was setting up for an attack. Then we had the
New York Times report that I just mentioned, Trump calling
Walls the R word, and then the Walls interview that
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I've shared with you, which I have more audio coming up,
of which Walls did not do a good job at
all in explaining what exactly was taking place. A real
leader would have stepped down, A real Democrat leader would
have at least said, yes, I take responsibility for what
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has transpired, but I'm also going to do everything I
can to root it out. As I mentioned before, let
me just go ahead and just play that clip again
for those that may have missed it.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Where he addressed this specifically, dozens.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
Of people of East African descent have been charged, convicted,
and sentenced for stealing more than a billion dollars in
taxpayer money from government programs during COVID. As you know, Governor,
that is more than Minnesota spends each year to run
its Department of Correction. So I want to give you
a chance to respond to this. Do you take responsibility
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for failing to stop this fraud in your state?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Well, certainly I take responsibility for putting people in jail.
Governors don't get to.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
So he's not going to take responsibility for all of
this happening under his watch.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I mean, that's clear.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
He'll take responsibility for the good stuff in holding people
accountable according to him, which also he can't really go
and take credit for We just had a judge that
overturned the conviction of an individual who was committing fraud.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
There needs to be an investigation into that judge.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Absolutely talk theoretically, we have to solve problems, and I
will note it's not just Somali's. Minnesota is a generous state.
Minnesota is a prosperous days a well run state or
triple A bond rated but that attracts criminals.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Those people are going to Ja.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's unbelievable to me.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
You know, We're just we're run so well that all
the criminals they just flock here to Minnesota because I've
done such a good This is what he's essentially saying.
Governor Tim Walls is saying, listen, we got a triple
A bond rating. Yeah, it's good, and we're so successful here,
the criminals just want to come here and do crime.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
As a matter of fact, all of this fraud should
be looked.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
At and applauded because we wouldn't have all this fraud
if it wasn't for how successful our state is. He's
a liar. Need further proof. Let me share this with you,
and then we'll dive into what alleged members of the
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Department of Human Services had to say. But this is
a before and actually it's an it's a it's a
recent and then before we'll go that route. So the
first clipical here is Governor Tim Walls saying that more
accountability is needed in the programs found to be fraudulent.
And then the second clipicle here is Walls in twenty
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twenty two defending the.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Very pro that turned out to be fraudulent.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Do you think there was not enough skepticism for too
long in state agencies that were overseeing these programs. I
think it's an unfortunate situation, But yeah, I think you
need to be.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
More skeptical now in this world.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
I think the COVID pandemic and the releasing of some
of the rules, the relaxing of the rules fostered this
one or.
Speaker 12 (34:19):
Tim Walls today defended how the Education Department handled food
fraud allegations during the pandemic. Prosecutors say millions meant for
hungry kids went to buy luxury cars and homes instead.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Just how many different contradictions as Walls made, It's incredible.
So late this weekend, after receiving a lot of attention
Minnesota Department of Human Service employees through an account associated
with them at Minnesota Underscore DHS.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
They wrote, we are overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
By the interest the nation has shown in the fraud
occurring in Minnesota. Popular Wise, we are small, but health
and human services fraud in our state exceeds that of
much larger states like California and New York, Texas and others. Well,
Tim Walls makes all manner of incorrect statements about Minnesota
leading in one way or another. What we really lead
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is in failed governance. Tim Walls has turned Minnesota into
a failed state with deteriorating infrastructure, education, economic metrics. Worst
of all, we are failing our most vulnerable citizens by
letting crippled state services. For many years, we reached out
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to every available source to get attention to help stop
the fraud. We were lucky enough to get the Office
of Legislative Auditor of the Fraud Committee, certain news outlets,
and many find politicians to help shed light on the matter. Unfortunately,
only one in DFL members showed interest in fraud. John
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Hoffman Contrary to pop belief, we aren't a political group,
but we've been continually disappointed in the way the DFL
has responded or the way they haven't responded. We hope
for partnership with all political parties, but instead the DFL
discredited our reports and please, is protecting your political party
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or clinging onto power really worth destroying your state? Many
thanks for those who have supported us over the years.
It's been an uphill battle and that's been certain. It's isolating,
but one we aren't giving up on. We hope Minnesota
will be freed from fraud, good governance is restored, and
trust in government is rebuilt. The next step now is
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to bring in external auditors in new leadership. Tim Walls
has failed Minnesota. Now this was the again sort of
the end result of what they had initially posted over
the weekend that I want to share with you.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Because this also gained national attention.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Before we get to that, let's get to a few
of your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app. Your talkbacks are
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Speaker 12 (37:13):
What did Walls just say? What does the lightning of.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
The COVID restrictions have anything to do with people finding
out about the fraud?
Speaker 9 (37:25):
Hey, John Rolling from Farmington again say that's a joke
Wall saying that Minnesota is so successful as we're attracting
all these criminals. I mean, if we were successful, we
would have gone from a seventeen billion dollar budgets or
plus to an eight and a half billion dollar budget deficit,
all under his administration. That's not success, that's failure.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
That's hard.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
If the state was run well, there wouldn't be any
corruption in fraud. The biggest fraud there is is Tim
Walls there's always been a fraud his whole life.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
And we need to give this guy. And the thing
that really.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I find most frustrating about all of this is how
it was completely avoidable. When you look at the increase
in requests for funds from these programs, they just they
immediately exploded from one year to another. When you have
an uptick of ten to fifteen and then hundreds of
millions of dollars, you should have immediately started looking into it.
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At a ten million year over year uptick. Tory van
Out from Axios had pulled this quote from the New
York Times article from a defense attorney for several defendants
and state fraud cases, including a woman who prosecutors alleged
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stole fourteen million with business partners from Autism support group.
Mister Pekiga, who also has represented other defendants in fraud cases,
and again this is from the New York Times piece,
said that some involved and became convinced that state agencies were.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Tolerating, if not tacitly allowing the fraud. No one was
doing anything about the red flags. He said.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
It was like somebody was stealing money from the cookie
jar and they kept refilling it. So we'll dive into
this post from Minnesota DHS employees that garnered national attention
over the weekend. They pulled to one more quote that
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I'll share with you, and they will take a quick
break and we'll get to more of your talkbacks from
the iHeartRadio app coming up just after the top of
the hour for the New York Times quote on Tim
Walls and his failure to stop the fraud consuming Minnesota
and again no one was doing anything about the red
flags going back to the previous quote as well, just
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absolutely stunning as is or as the employees for DHS layout.
On top of that, we'll get to medicaid fraud crisis
that we did not get a chance to talk about
before we went on the Thanksgiving break. Matt Dean's got
a great piece of Governor Tim Walls has failed to oversight.
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And then we'll turn our attention overdue immigration. We had
the details on the individual that was arrested by Ice
in Saint Paul that caused so much controversy. Yeah, he
was a criminal illegal alien who had a long rap
sheet including abuse that the activists were all their protesting
and supporting at the time. Yeah, all that's coming up
(40:45):
on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty and one
oh three five FM
Good morning, John.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I got a question, how could the federal government not
vet Tim Walls so thoroughly at the time he was
running for vice president to dig up all of this fraud.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, I think they.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Did, but because there was such a cover, there's content
there continued to be such a cover for what had
transpired regarding the fraud, which just simply cannot be ignored anymore.
It didn't matter. But this speaks back to you know,
this speaks to what I was talking about with Andrew
Langer a moment ago here on Twin City's News Talk
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as we kick off hour two from the six y
five to one Carpet Next Day install Studios.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I think all of.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
This speaks more to just how nobody wanted to run
with Kamala Harris that they ended up going with Governor
Tim Walls despite all of his all of his baggage.
Then again, we have so much ground to cover. I
don't want to relitigate what has transpired and what was
although that will really when we look at when we
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look back at the entirety of Governor Tim Walls, depending
on whether or not he ends up still being the
nominee next year. Because I just think that every single
week that goes by, there is it's less likely that
Walls ends up being the nominee. There's just so much
baggage attached to him right now. I mean this is
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including within his own party. And we'll get into more
of this, more of this coming up, but in total,
if Walls does not end up being the nominee, and
for the time being, like his time as governor right
now would be coming to a close, him being tapped
as the VP for Kamala Harris will be sort of
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the beginning of the end in terms of the ark
and the storyline. More recently, Trump called the Minnesota governor
seriously retarded. This is working out the version here from newsmax,
a term widely regarded as derogatory towards people with intellectual disabilities, Which.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Makes me wonder whether or not Newsmax.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Was questioning Walls and his intellect based off of how
they worded that me that is it may Walls responded
by calling for the release of the President's MRI results
of drawing renewed attention to questions surrounding the seventy nine
year old commander in chiefs health. Really really, Newsmax, Oh,
(02:43):
I'm sorry, this is actually Newsweek.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
That's my bad.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Newsmax as a better job. This was Newsweek that makes
more sense.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So the post was on True Social wherein Trump called
walls retarded. I do have a clip that I want
to share with you. Traveling on Air Force one over
the weekend, I believe it was yesterday, President Donald Trump
was asked about whether or not he still stood by
that claim that Walls is retarded.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Walls and you called.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Him of what many Americans do find an offensive word, retarded.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Do you stand by that claim of calling the walls retarded?
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:21):
I think there's something wrong with him, absolutely sure.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You have a problem with you know what.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
I think there's something wrong with him. Anybody that would
do what he did. Anybody that would allow those people
into a state and pay billions of dollars out to Samalia.
We give billions of dollars to Samo. It's not even
a country because it doesn't function like a country. It's
got a name, but it doesn't function like a country. Yeah,
there's something wrong with wolves, mister president.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So in the post, Trump wrote that hundreds of thousands
of Somali refugees were taking over Minnesota and suggested some
all the gangs were roving the streets. So that second part,
by the way, was actually confirmed when you go back
and look at the Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara and
his comments a couple of weeks back, of which he
had to go and apologize for in case anybody within
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the community was upset that he was pointing to East
African kids that were coming into or kids from East
Africa that were coming into Minneapolis and causing disturbances. The
Newsweek article does go on to say that Samali's makeup
while roughly one point one percent of Minnesota's population about
sixty one three hundred according to the US Census data. Now,
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and I'll talk more about this later on because I
have a Minnesota reformer peace that I want to share
with you, that number is closer to eighty thousand. So
Trump is off with his hundreds of thousands in terms
of Somali refugees here in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
According to the.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
US Census, and those are individuals that have claimed directly
to have come from Somalia, it's sixty one three hundred.
The closer estimates based off of available data is eighty thousand,
which does raise the question of how many of these
individuals are here actually legally versus illegally. And the reporting
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that we had a couple of weeks back, actually it's
probably more like a couple of months back of some
half of individuals who had immigrated to the country from
that area may have done so committing marriage fraud. This
was data that was released from the US Attorney. So
if Trump were to go and launch expansive immigration operations
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here in Minnesota, which I'm hearing reporting he is planning
on doing, that is one area in which immigrations and
customs enforcement and border patrol could go and target. The
newsweak article goes on to say crime rates in Minnesota
are influenced by many factors. There is no credible data
showing some all the gangs are responsible for the widespread violence.
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But again you had Minneamplis's own police chief stating such.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And listen, not all.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Somali's commit fraud, but of the total fraud, seventy five
percent of that total fraud has been committed by those
from the Somali community, and in large part that community's
leadership has been silent on the issue. There is an editorial,
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as I mentioned, from the Minnesota reformer that I'll share
with you later on. And this is one of the
first times that I've actually seen an individual from the
Somali community that's willing to step up and call out
the fraud or at least mention I shouldn't say call out,
because they don't really call it out, but.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
At least mention.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That the majority of the fraud that's been discovered here
in Minnesota has been committed by those from the Somali community.
Here's what's some Governor Chim Walls had to say on
NBC over the weekend Christian Welker regarding Trump and calling
him retarded.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Look, Donald Trump insulting me as a badge of honor
for me, but I think we all know as both
as a educator for a couple decades and as a parent,
using that term is just so damaging.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It's hurtful.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, because Walls has never gone and used any sort
of you know, hurtful terminology in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
I'm getting called out on this because I called Donald
Trump a wanna be dictator.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's because he is. It's because he is.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Oh, the governor's being mean, and the governor's speaking out
on that.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Well, maybe it's time for us to be a little meaner.
Maybe it's time for us to be a little more fierce.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
The last person that ever can take the high ground
over bullying tactics calling individuals' names not be a hypocrite
is Governor Tim Walls. They didn't keep Jennifer Brooks in
The Star Tribune from rushing to Walls's defense in the
wake of the President to calling him those.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Derogatory terms.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Brooks writes this, Tim Walls knows how bullies operates, how
bullies operate. Well, sure he does, because he's a bully himself.
That's not a point that she makes. That's the point
that I'm making, Jennifer Brooks says, Minnesota's governor responds to
the president who called him the R word. She writes,
Minnesota Governor Tim Walls Todd High school. He's the parent
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of a child with special needs. He's heard the R
word before. He's heard it from playground bullies, He's heard
it from online trolls. Does she really know that? Or
is she just making a lot of assumptions there? Does
she talk to Walls before this?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Did she questioned him as if that was the case
or not? A curiosity, just.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Just wondering now he's heard it for the president of
the United States, She writes. The President's insult comes as
Minnesota prepares to host the twenty twenty six Special Olympic
US Games in June, Okay, and nine nine percent of individuals,
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those with disabilities and those without understand. I'm not saying
that you should be going you should go around calling
people that term. I'm not saying that at all, But
most people understand that terminology is used exclusively in a
derogatory way toward an individual who is acting out of
character and doing something stupid, a person who is not
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dealing with any mental disabilities. If that doesn't include you,
then most people go, that doesn't include me. Walls said,
this is not both sides ism. This is clearly one
side Donald Trump, and that is clearly him trying to
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divide this country and thinks that it's beneficial to him politically. Really,
Governor Tim Wall said that, okay, here's a bit of
a before and after of Walls, by the way, but.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Look, this is what Donald Trump has done.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
He's normalized this type of hateful behavior and this type
of language.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Well, maybe it's time.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
For us to be a little meaner, and when it's
adult like Donald Trump, you bully the shit out of
him back.
Speaker 8 (10:29):
What we should demonize is people like Elon Musk. Although
I will say this, the last few days you woke
up thinking there might be news, just saying just saying
there will be news sometimes just so you know there
will be news.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Again, Walls has no leg to stand on whatsoever.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Jennifer Brooks goes on to say there's a pattern to
Trump's holiday greetings subject plus verb plus insult. She put
in his latest truth the Social Post, a very happy
Thanksgiving salutation to all of our great American citizens and
patriots who have been so nice in allowing our country
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to be divided, disrupted, carved up, murdered, beaten, mugged and
laughed at along with certain other foolish countries throughout the
world for being politically correct and just playing stupid when
it comes to immigration.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And he's not wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Jennifer Brooks doesn't like that, though, not that Jennifer Brooks
would like anything that that President Donald Trump had to say.
There was nothing in the lengthy message Walls noted about
Trump's family or the things he was grateful for in
his life. Why isn't he with his family lamented Governor
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Jim Walls. Why aren't they celebrating. Why aren't they playing yachtzie, that's.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What we're doing.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I don't get it, like Walls cares. She goes on
to talk about Gus Walls, saying that he also heard
the R word last year. Gus's proud father wishes America
would follow his younger son's lead, saying that he just
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blocked it out. Wallsman on to say, people who do
things like this you don't associate with. I really wish
America America would start to understand that this has nothing
to do with conservative policy, It has nothing to do
with climate change. It has everything to do with at
heart just being cruel. He added, the cruelties at the
center of his agenda. That's the end of the piece
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from Jennifer Brooks. And I would have look if she
were to have acknowledge the obvious comparison of what I've
done on the show, of the language that Walls uses.
And I played for you the audio the time when
he went on the podcast and say that he would
kick gops, but the doom scrolling, the red hats, the
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being entertained by falling Tesla's stock. The bad Ankle's comment,
I'd at least give her credit for being consistent in
her criticism, but.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
She doesn't want to mention.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
How Walls is the closest Democrat avnar of Trump as
it relates to his colorful language and therefore this is
just another hack Walls propaganda puff piece at a time
when he desperately needs it. Coming up, we have more
audio to share Sunday, during his appearance with Meet the
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Press and Kristin Welker, Walls did fire back at Trump
and the accusation of incompetence dodging responsibility. Though when it
comes for the fraud his comments, we're gonna break them
all down. If you haven't seen these yet, do not
go anywhere. We'll get to it next and your talkbacks
as well from the iHeartRadio app brought to you by
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eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Okay, Walls apparently was saying why wasn't Trump with his family?
Speaker 4 (14:09):
They had a huge Thanksgiving celebration.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
At mar Lago.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It was everywhere online.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
Tells me that he doesn't look and see what's going
on in the United States.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Walls is too busy.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Of pocketing money from all the griston Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh, he's just a liar. That's really what it comes
down to. Governor Tim Walls is just a straight up liar.
He has no interest in seeking the truth. He'll make
up whatever he needs to make up on the fly
to protect his own political standing.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Borney John and Crewe Paul here over in Bloomington, friend
of the.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Show, I am just baffled.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
If we remember Sarah Palin.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Had a special needs child and the vitrio that came
to that family was unbelievable. Now these saying people are
standing up and defending which one is it?
Speaker 10 (15:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Have a great day.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
There's no there's no level of consistency. There's nothing but
hypocrisy as far as the eye can see. Twin City's
News Talk maym eleven, thirty one oh three five FM
John Justice broadcasting from the sixty five to one Carpet
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Speaker 1 (15:27):
Tim Walls did.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Take aim at Trump's criticism of the Somali community when
pressed on whether he took responsibility for failing to stop
the fraud in Minnesota, several within the community were charged
in connection with the frauds cheam.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That's an understatement.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So he was on Meet the Press with host Christian
Welker asked if he wanted to take responsibility for failing
to stop fraud in the state. This is what Governor
Tim Walls had to say.
Speaker 11 (15:53):
Dozens of people of East African descent have been charged, convicted,
and sentenced for stealing more than a billion taxpayer money
from government programs during COVID. As you know, Governor, that
is more than Minnesota spends each year to run its
Department of Correction. So I want to give you a
chance to respond to this. Do you take responsibility for
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failing to stop this fraud in your state?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Well, certainly, I take responsibility for putting people in jail.
Governors don't get to just talk. Theoretically, we have.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
To solve problems, and I will note it's not first off,
they'll take responsibility for putting people in jail. So he
still isn't going to take any sort of leadership responsibility
whatsoever for what's transpired. You can do that and still
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say phase. I mean, any good leader would do that.
Any good leader would say yes, of course, I am
the governor of the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
This has been happening on my watch.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
And then you add in the subsequent and I'm going
to do everything I need to do about it. All
you're pushback on Trump and everything else. The video on
the clip is really telling because Walls is clearly looking
for the words in how to respond to Christian Welker.
In the moment, you can see I know that look,
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I've had that look when you're doing these remote hits.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Just Somali's Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota's a prosperous days,
a well run state or triple A bond rated. But
that attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. We're
doing everything we can, but to demonize an entire community.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
On the actions of a few, it's lazy.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, what's lazy is what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And the clip it's interesting because he says, well, they're
you know, the Somali community aren't the only ones committing fraud.
So at least he's admitting that other individuals are committing fraud.
But when you look at the numbers, you're looking at
seventy one of the seventy five people charged with feeding
our future are of East African descent. Walls hasn't done
anything other than enable this to happen, and focusing on
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facts is not racism. This is where things get lazy
when people simply go and tout racism. Lazy is exactly
the way that you would describe somebody who was willfully
ignoring the explosion in state funding requests coming from the
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social service programs created mostly by the DFL. You have
many individuals again facts. You have many Somali families who
took cash bribes, as has been reported in multiple stories
regarding daycare fraud, autism fraud, housing a stableization services.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
You had some only families.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Taking cash bribes in one instance to have their non
autistic children enrolled in the fraudulent services program so that
the fraud could actually go and be committed.
Speaker 10 (19:18):
Good morning, John Sam. I want the first preface that
there are many good people of all ethnicities in the world. However,
when they're crime being committed, you have to drill down
into who is committing these crimes. And I know of
a woman who is a police officer at the Saint
Paul Minnapolis International Airport and she said it's the Somalian
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eighteen to thirty somethings that hijack the rental cars, smash
them up in the parking ramps and then flee.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
There you go again. The lazy thing is to just
call it racist.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
That's the lazy thing to do, to not give a
thorough examination of what is actually taking place here. The
majority of of individuals here who immigrated from Somalia are
not conducting the crimes. But of the crimes, especially the
fraud being perpetuated, the majority of those crimes are being
perpetuated by people who are from Somalia. These are all
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just facts. It has nothing to do with the skin
color of individuals. It has a lot to do with
the background that individuals were raised in in their country
of origin. That's the difficult, non lazy thing that's being
tackled right now, not only at the state level by
those that want to see something actually getting done about fraud,
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but also what President Donald Trump is now talking about
at the federal level. We'll get some more of your
comments coming up. We'll dive into the New York Times
article how fraud swamped Minnesota's social services system under Tim
Walls's watch, and then I'll share with you what the
Minnesota Underscore DHS at Minnesota under or DHS apparently apparently
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reportedly representing some four hundred and eighty members of the
Department of Human Services here in Minnesota, and they put
up a post late last week, Tim Walls is one
hundred percent responsible for massive fraud here in Minnesota. We'll
also get to more of your talkbacks as well from
the iHeartRadio app here on Twin City's News Talk Am
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eleven thirty and one oh three five FM Twin City's
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John Justice along with Sam and the Master Control Booth. So,
I want to get into the New York Times and
what this account associated with the employees of the Minnesota
Department of Human Services had to say.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Before we do that, let me play this clip really.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Quick because it's kind of it's kind of it's kind
of funny, and it all relates to what we are
talking about this morning. But in response to President Donald
Trump in a true social post to saying that Governor
Tim Walls was retarded, this was the response from Walls
(22:29):
on Meet the Press over the over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Well, here we got a guy on Thanksgiving where we
spent time with our families, We ate, we played yachtza,
we cheered for football or whatever. This guy is apparently
in a room ranting about everything else.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
This is not normal behavior. It is not healthy.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
And presidents throughout time have released a couple things. They've
released their tax returns, not Donald Trump. And they've released
their medical records, not Donald Trump. And look, the MRI
is one thing. But I think what's most concerning about
this is, as your viewers out there are listening, has
anyone in the history of the world ever have an
MRI assigned to them and have no idea.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
What it was for? As he says, So, look.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
It's clear the presence fading physically, I think the mental
capacity again ranting you.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Know, let me stop here. I'm just I won't subject
to you.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I have more walls clips to share, so I won't
subject you to more of that one than you have to.
With regard to the last thing he said, has anybody
ever had an MRI and they didn't know what they
were giving it?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Getting an MRI for.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I just saw an ad for a cyber deal for
a company that offers up services wherein you can get
an MRI done just to have your body looked at,
and then the MRI will go and expose whether or
not you are dealing with any particular issues. He was
(23:55):
just it was only ten minutes ago, Cyber Monday, for
whatever the company's name was, get an MRI. I get
what every single year now for me, specifically, we're looking
at the issues relating to my heart, but there's other
things that have popped up before with those MRIs. Sometimes
(24:15):
they're just routine, and it's really rich for Governor Tim
Walls to be using that line of attack when you
consider the other big news item that dropped last week
from the Minnesota Star Tribune. And I'll work off the
version here from Bill Glahn covering this at center the
(24:36):
American Experiment. But the state withholds records on fraud cases
from the Star Tribune, Minnesota can release records on medicaid
providers accused of fraud.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
But it won't.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
So here you have the Star Tribune actually doing journalism,
which is somewhat shocking. But they wrote this just two
months after the jury delivered guilty verdict in the eye
popping feeding our future fraud Minnesota lawmakers voted to give
state agencies brought authority to stop payments to individuals and
companies suspected of defrauding the government, as they also allowed
the Minnesota Department of Human Services to disclose when it's
(25:15):
withholding payments from a company over credible allegations of fraud.
But while DHS requested the ability to disclose that information,
often it won't.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So perhaps Governor.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Tim Walls, as others have noted online, should stop complaining
and release the MRI results as a tactic to try
to undermine Trump and maybe get more focused on having
DHS release the information regarding the records of the fraud cases.
(25:50):
President Donald Trump was asked about the MRI line on
his travels on Air Force One. This is what he
had to say.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Will you tell us why it was, Governor Wolves, I
mean the incompetent governor.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
So if they want to release it, it's okay.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
With me to release it. It's perfect.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's like my phone call where I got it peached.
It's absolutely perfect.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
So if you want to hear about it, or if
you want to.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Release it, do you want to have it released?
Speaker 7 (26:18):
News station failing failing, News station fail news nation is doing.
It allows you, by the way, but if you want
to have it released, I'll release its want releasing?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
No, no, no, What part of your body was the I.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Have no idea which is an run What part of
the body it wasn't the brain because I took a
tact that it fests DIASTI and I got a perfect mark,
which you would be incapable of doing anybody. Everybody you do.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
It really is the best. Yeah, and there's nothing surprising
about that. It's like I just got an MRI I done.
That was all.
Speaker 10 (26:53):
I just.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Does a routine check up. People get them all the time,
as I mentioned.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
They actually you can get one on your own, just
go through particular services. So the timeline of how all
this played out everything got ramped up last week, dovetailing
off of the reporting from City Journal, The New York
Times got in on the action.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
How fraud swamped.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Minnesota social services system under Tim Walls's watch. Prosecutors say
members of the Somali despora, a group with growing political power,
were largely responsible. President Trump has drawn national attention to
(27:41):
the scandal amid his crackdown on immigration. Federal prosecutors charged
dozens of people with felonies. I'm reading from the New
York Times piece now. The fraud scandal that rattled Minnesota
was staggering in its scale and brazenness. Visuals acused of
sealing hundreds of millions of dollars from a government program
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meant to keep children fed during the COVID nineteen pandemic.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
At first, many in.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
The States saw the case as a one off abuse
during a health emergency. But as new schemes at targeting
the state's generous safety net programs came to lights, state
and federal officials began to grapple with a jarring reality.
Over the last five years, law enforcement officials say fraud
it took root in pockets of Minnesota's Somali community as
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scores of individuals made small fortunes by setting up companies
that build state agencies for millions of dollars worth of
social services that were never provided. Fifty nine people convicted
in the scheme. So far, more than one billion in
taxpayer money was stolen in three plots that they are
currently investigating. That is more than Minnesota spends annually in
(28:50):
its Department of Corrections. Minnesota fraud scandal even stood out
in this context of the rampant theft during the pandemic,
when Americans sole tens of billions through unemployment benefits, business loans,
and other.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Forms of aid.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Outrage has swelled among Minnesotans, and fraud has turned into
the political potent political issue in a competitive campaign season.
Governor Tim Watson fellow Democrats are being asked to explain
how so much money was stolen on their watch, providing
Republicans who hoped to take back the governor's office in
twenty twenty six with a powerful line of attack. In
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recent days, President Donald Trump weighed in calling Minnesota a
hub of fraudulent money laundering activity, saying that some ally
perpetrators should be sent back to where they came from.
So again, when you go down the timeline here you
have the City Journal reporting and I'm I'm not including
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what's been covered in the past by Alphinus, Liz Colin,
by those over it American experiment. I'm not covering. I'm
not referring to everything that's come beforehand. We've been talking
about a lot of these issues for a long time.
I'm just talking about the most recent timeline that brings
Minnesota to national attention. So you had the City Journal
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reporting going back two weeks, you had Trump move to
end the temporary protect the status.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Which was solely to.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Bring to raise the profile of everything that was taking place,
and specifically that City Journal reporting that happened. You had
the controversial, controversial ice raid in Saint Paul. I'll have
more on that next hour or two cover. We now
have the background on the individual that all the protesters
showed up to go and defend. Then of course we
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had the members of our National Guard that were shot
last week, along with the individual from Afghanistan who also
was setting up for an attack. Then we had the
New York Times report that I just mentioned, Trump calling
Walls the R word, and then the Walls interview that
(31:03):
I've shared with you, which I have more audio coming up,
of which Walls did not do a good job at
all in explaining what exactly was taking place. A real
leader would have stepped down, A real Democrat leader would
have at least said, yes, I take responsibility for what
(31:28):
has transpired, but I'm also going to do everything I
can to root it out. As I mentioned before, let
me just go ahead and just play that clip again
for those that may have missed it.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Where he addressed this specifically, dozens.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
Of people of East African descent have been charged, convicted,
and sentenced for stealing more than a billion dollars in
taxpayer money from government programs during COVID. As you know, Governor,
that is more than Minnesota spends each year to run
its Department of Correction. So I want to give you
a chance to respond to this. Do you take responsibility
(32:01):
for failing to stop this fraud in your state?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Well, certainly I take responsibility for putting people in jail.
Governors don't get to.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
So he's not going to take responsibility for all of
this happening under his watch.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I mean, that's clear.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
He'll take responsibility for the good stuff in holding people
accountable according to him, which also he can't really go
and take credit for We just had a judge that
overturned the conviction of an individual who was committing fraud.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
There needs to be an investigation into that judge.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Absolutely talk theoretically, we have to solve problems, and I
will note it's not just Somali's. Minnesota is a generous state.
Minnesota is a prosperous days a well run state or
triple A bond rated but that attracts criminals.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Those people are going to Ja.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's unbelievable to me.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
You know, We're just we're run so well that all
the criminals they just flock here to Minnesota because I've
done such a good This is what he's essentially saying.
Governor Tim Walls is saying, listen, we got a triple
A bond rating. Yeah, it's good, and we're so successful here,
the criminals just want to come here and do crime.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
As a matter of fact, all of this fraud should
be looked.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
At and applauded because we wouldn't have all this fraud
if it wasn't for how successful our state is. He's
a liar. Need further proof. Let me share this with you,
and then we'll dive into what alleged members of the
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Department of Human Services had to say. But this is
a before and actually it's an it's a it's a
recent and then before we'll go that route. So the
first clipical here is Governor Tim Walls saying that more
accountability is needed in the programs found to be fraudulent.
And then the second clipicle here is Walls in twenty
(33:57):
twenty two defending the.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Very pro that turned out to be fraudulent.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Do you think there was not enough skepticism for too
long in state agencies that were overseeing these programs. I
think it's an unfortunate situation, But yeah, I think you
need to be.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
More skeptical now in this world.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
I think the COVID pandemic and the releasing of some
of the rules, the relaxing of the rules fostered this
one or.
Speaker 12 (34:19):
Tim Walls today defended how the Education Department handled food
fraud allegations during the pandemic. Prosecutors say millions meant for
hungry kids went to buy luxury cars and homes instead.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Just how many different contradictions as Walls made, It's incredible.
So late this weekend, after receiving a lot of attention
Minnesota Department of Human Service employees through an account associated
with them at Minnesota Underscore DHS.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
They wrote, we are overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
By the interest the nation has shown in the fraud
occurring in Minnesota. Popular Wise, we are small, but health
and human services fraud in our state exceeds that of
much larger states like California and New York, Texas and others. Well,
Tim Walls makes all manner of incorrect statements about Minnesota
leading in one way or another. What we really lead
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is in failed governance. Tim Walls has turned Minnesota into
a failed state with deteriorating infrastructure, education, economic metrics. Worst
of all, we are failing our most vulnerable citizens by
letting crippled state services. For many years, we reached out
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to every available source to get attention to help stop
the fraud. We were lucky enough to get the Office
of Legislative Auditor of the Fraud Committee, certain news outlets,
and many find politicians to help shed light on the matter. Unfortunately,
only one in DFL members showed interest in fraud. John
(35:58):
Hoffman Contrary to pop belief, we aren't a political group,
but we've been continually disappointed in the way the DFL
has responded or the way they haven't responded. We hope
for partnership with all political parties, but instead the DFL
discredited our reports and please, is protecting your political party
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or clinging onto power really worth destroying your state? Many
thanks for those who have supported us over the years.
It's been an uphill battle and that's been certain. It's isolating,
but one we aren't giving up on. We hope Minnesota
will be freed from fraud, good governance is restored, and
trust in government is rebuilt. The next step now is
(36:43):
to bring in external auditors in new leadership. Tim Walls
has failed Minnesota. Now this was the again sort of
the end result of what they had initially posted over
the weekend that I want to share with you.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Because this also gained national attention.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Before we get to that, let's get to a few
of your thoughts from the iHeartRadio app. Your talkbacks are
brought to you by Lyndall Realty.
Speaker 12 (37:13):
What did Walls just say? What does the lightning of.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
The COVID restrictions have anything to do with people finding
out about the fraud?
Speaker 9 (37:25):
Hey, John Rolling from Farmington again say that's a joke
Wall saying that Minnesota is so successful as we're attracting
all these criminals. I mean, if we were successful, we
would have gone from a seventeen billion dollar budgets or
plus to an eight and a half billion dollar budget deficit,
all under his administration. That's not success, that's failure.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
That's hard.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
If the state was run well, there wouldn't be any
corruption in fraud. The biggest fraud there is is Tim
Walls there's always been a fraud his whole life.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
And we need to give this guy. And the thing
that really.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I find most frustrating about all of this is how
it was completely avoidable. When you look at the increase
in requests for funds from these programs, they just they
immediately exploded from one year to another. When you have
an uptick of ten to fifteen and then hundreds of
millions of dollars, you should have immediately started looking into it.
(38:27):
At a ten million year over year uptick. Tory van
Out from Axios had pulled this quote from the New
York Times article from a defense attorney for several defendants
and state fraud cases, including a woman who prosecutors alleged
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stole fourteen million with business partners from Autism support group.
Mister Pekiga, who also has represented other defendants in fraud cases,
and again this is from the New York Times piece,
said that some involved and became convinced that state agencies were.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Tolerating, if not tacitly allowing the fraud. No one was
doing anything about the red flags. He said.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
It was like somebody was stealing money from the cookie
jar and they kept refilling it. So we'll dive into
this post from Minnesota DHS employees that garnered national attention
over the weekend. They pulled to one more quote that
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I'll share with you, and they will take a quick
break and we'll get to more of your talkbacks from
the iHeartRadio app coming up just after the top of
the hour for the New York Times quote on Tim
Walls and his failure to stop the fraud consuming Minnesota
and again no one was doing anything about the red
flags going back to the previous quote as well, just
(40:02):
absolutely stunning as is or as the employees for DHS layout.
On top of that, we'll get to medicaid fraud crisis
that we did not get a chance to talk about
before we went on the Thanksgiving break. Matt Dean's got
a great piece of Governor Tim Walls has failed to oversight.
(40:22):
And then we'll turn our attention overdue immigration. We had
the details on the individual that was arrested by Ice
in Saint Paul that caused so much controversy. Yeah, he
was a criminal illegal alien who had a long rap
sheet including abuse that the activists were all their protesting
and supporting at the time. Yeah, all that's coming up
(40:45):
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