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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hour two on Twin City's News Talk, series of incidents
and evolving ice agents draw complaints from in Twin Cities
from activists. We'll give you further details on what I
had predicted yesterday with these two stories becoming a bigger
issue because of the activists. The last hour, we were

(00:26):
talking about Jasmine Crockett here on Twin City's News Talk
from the sixty five one carpet next day installed studios
and what a hack a grifter she is. We ended
up getting on movies because that's what happens here on
the show.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
On occasion I.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Was talking about we were talking about Christopher Nolan films. Oh,
it was individuals who have degrees, but you don't end
up doing anything with those degrees, and how just because
you have degrees, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're an
intelligent person, and that would apply to Jasmine Crockett. And
I gave the example of Christopher Nolan, the movie director,
and how he never had any formal movie training, and

(00:58):
then we were talking about how Christian for Nolan does
that thing where he makes a mainstream movie and then
makes one of his own sort of pet project movies
and then makes a mainstream movie and how that's been
going on in Hollywood for a long time, which brings
me to a comment from Hans.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Hey John, I would say, James Cameron does that a
bit too. I would actually say that's what the Avatar
movies are. I actually don't like them, so every sequel
is just another Hey, give me some more money so
I can do some more deep sea exploration or space
exploration by James Cammon, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
That's a perfect example of how this stuff is so
subjective because I completely disagree with that. It doesn't follow
along with my analogy at all. Love you, Hans, but
it doesn't follow my analogy at all. I know it
does with your logic because you don't like the Avatar movies.
But you look at James Cameron's movie credentials. He actually
hasn't made a lot, so true lies. That was mainstream
Terminator two, Judgment Day, the Abyss. I mean, all of

(01:50):
these are made to be big blockbusters aliens. Of course
you have the Terminator that's in there. I'm going in
reverse order here, Let's see aage and then Avatar the
Way of Water in the n Avatar Fire and Ash
and I love and I love the Avatar films. They're spectacles.
That's what James Cameron does. He just he makes these.
He's not trying to make any larger point beyond just

(02:12):
pushing the boundaries of movie making in and of itself,
and he just You go to a James Cameron movie,
you know that you are going to be transported to
someplace you'd never been before.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
You may or may not like where you're visiting, but
that's what's happening. I'm excited about Fire and Ash. Can
you tell I know? I know, I know it's gonna
make a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
They have no cultural relevance whatsoever, no lasting power within
pop culture at all. You do not see individuals dressing
themselves up in blue paint when it comes to different
you know, conventions taking place to look like NAVVI.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
But they make a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Agents drawing guns at Augsburg University. Ice agents are accused
of pointing guns to students and staff at the university
campus in Minneapolis on Saturday afternoon. According to the University
of the agents were targeting an undergraduate who ultimately was
detained when they aimed weapons at witnesses during the confrontation
outside the residence Hall. I'm wondering exactly what was going

(03:16):
on in that moment and if it really is as
egregious as people are saying. These tactics Augsburg University wrote
with the implicit threat of violence are unacceptable, dangerous, profoundly disturbing.
Now you know what's unacceptable, dangerous, and profoundly disturbing. It's
comments like this from city council members, this one Robin Wansley,

(03:41):
talking about the issue of ice in our city. This
is a self proclaimed democrat socialist. She is a true
believer in the cause, and she makes that well known
every time she goes online and posts a video like
this one.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Hey, y'all is council member Robin Wansley. And I'm coming
to you because I know all of us are grappling
here Minneapolis with Trump's announcement of him having ICE agents
target not only just immigrant residents, specifically are Somali residents
here in Minneapolis and across the Twin Cities. So just
want to.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Share a couple of things.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I know several abductions by ICE agents have been prevented
by quick actions from our residents, So please continue to
show up.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
She's just making stuff up.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
What are the circumstances specifically to what she's talking about.
Are those just assumptions being made by the activists on
the ground. Do you really mean to tell me that
ICE officials had legitimate warrants for arrest and the citizens
prevented ICE from going and executing those warrants.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
You have similar comments and I'll play the audio later
on from Minneapolis man Baby may Or Mom Jean's Jacob
Frye perpetuating this idea that ICE is just randomly snatching
people off the streets with no cause whatsoever in doing so,
just because they happen to be profiled and look a
certain way.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
And report those sightings that you're witnessing in the community. Also,
please take down this number four a rapid response hotline
from MANACA that is doing phenomenal work to support our
immigrant neighbors here. It's sixty one two four four one
two eight eight one against sixty one two four four
one two eight eight one. Please take that down, Text

(05:31):
it to your friends, make sure people have that number.
That also said the City of Minneapolis is taking up
a separation ordinance this Tuesday, December ninth, at one thirty
pm at City Hall. Essentially, the changes that council is
making is to make sure that it's known if there
are any city staff who are collaborating with ICE, you

(05:52):
do not have a place to work here at the
City of Minneapolis. So please come out December ninth.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
If you are collaborating with lawful law enforcement, you don't
have a place here.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Who are they defending, by the way, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
In the Augsburg University situation, they were attempting to block
the arrest of an illegal alien sex offender. Crime Watch
Minneapolis had posted this regarding the incident that took place.
ICE officers in December sixth arrested Hejesus sase Do Portillo,
an illegal alien criminal, although again according to Jasmine Crockett,

(06:33):
it really depends on what that crime was.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Just because he committed a crime doesn't make him a criminal.
According to Crockett, they arrested him while he was getting
into his vehicle. He's a registered sex offender, had a
previous arrest for driving while intoxicated. The university administrator in
campus security attempted to obstruct the arrest. They're defending sex
offending criminals, our officers told the school administrator in campus

(06:58):
security that I had a warrant for the illegal aliens arrest.
The school administrator told Ice officers that they were violating
university policies. Our officers informed them the federal law supersedes
any university policy and that if campus security would not
stop blocking the law enforcement vehicle from exiting, they would
be obstructing justice. The school administrator continued her efforts to
block the vehicle from leaving and order campus security to

(07:20):
stand in front of the vehicle. Our officers follow their
training to use a minimum amount of force necessary to
clear the area and successfully arrest this criminal alien. And
as I also mentioned yesterday, the other story of the
scanning attention the four people detained as more than a
dozen ICE agents raided the Burnsville home on Saturday, including

(07:40):
parents of a seven year old boy and a father
of three. Okay, I feel sorry for those kids. It's
a bummer that they have parents that broke the law.
It happens, the landlord said, through a translator. Okay, they
just kept paying on the door until.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
They broke in. Well, maybe you should answer it next time.
Perhaps that's on you.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
The landlord's brother told a local TV station that agents
pointed their guns at family members who are US citizens
and took their phones. The agents allegedly entered the home
without sharing a warrant, showing a warrant allegedly. The incident
has sparked criticism from a second district representative, Angie Craig
and the Democrat politicians. They don't even wait to get

(08:26):
the further information. They don't care, they don't get follow up,
they don't get pushed back when it turns out that
the individuals they were actually going and defending in their
so brave ex posts has turned out to be criminals,
in this case, sex defenders for crying out loud, and
this story gets repeated over and over and over again.

(08:47):
Here's Minneapolis man Baby may Or Mom Jean's Jacob Frye
talking with Asmi Murphy on CBS correct.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Our police officers will not coordinate with ICE or any
federal agency around immigration law enforcement work. Now, we do
work with federal agents around important criminal activity, narcotics, gun violence.
We arrest perpetrators of violent crime. But we will not

(09:14):
work with federal agents around immigration law enforcement. Why because
we've seen the unconstitutionality of it. We've seen the chaotic
nature that it creates. We know that it breaks apart
families that make Minneapolis better, and we want nothing to
do with it.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Hey, Jacob Fry, if I'm asmy Murphy and I'm actually
good at my job in doing my job, I follow
that up with what has been done that's unconstitutional? What
is the chaos you're referring to? Because the only chaos
that I see is coming from the community, the activists
and the individuals that don't respect law enforcement because they've

(09:50):
been told not to by their elected officials. Of course,
there's no follow up regarding any of that. So how
do we get to the billion dollar fraud estimate? I'm
going to share this with you coming up in just
a moment. Lou Ragoose from Caro Levin has another post

(10:12):
breaking down the numbers and pushing back on what the
strip The Star Tribune reported over the weekend. Bill Glon
has a follow up in an American Experiment as well. Bill
Glann also posted this over the weekend. Former Star Tribune
editor Patricia Lopez wrote on Bloomberg on November twenty sixth
under this headline, we can stop fraud in Minnesota without

(10:35):
attacking somalis. As Bill writes in a perfect world, Lopez
is absolutely correct. She writes in that post, it is
true that Minnesota has seen an extraordinarily rash of fraud
in taxpayer funded programs. Recently, more than seventy people have
been charged, including several Somalis.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Several. Wall Street Journal columnist.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Matthew Kennetti writes this, of the eighty six people charge
so far, all but eight are of Somali descent. Seventy
eight of eighty six works out to more than ninety percent.
That's more than just as several. So how do you
prosecute industrial scale fraud when the demographics are so skewed?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
And this is what Lopez says.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
The way to handle Minnesota's real struggles with fraud is
to find and bring justice to the actual perpetrators.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Listen, she's not wrong, but to ignore.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
The individuals involved in the fraud and the rationale and
reason why is only going to contribute potentially to further
fraud down the line. David Schultz, the political advisor to Minnesota.
He seems to be the go to guy from Hamlin
University over and over again. There's a piece that will
cover in the eight o'clock hour. He says the same thing.

(11:55):
He basically says that the problem that we have with
fraud is not a Somali problem, it's a DFI problem. Now,
he's not wrong in this being a DFL corruption problem,
in these programs being susceptible to fraud. However, he's wrong
and that two things can both be the same. It
can be both, and it is both. Now the way
that you handle it and deal with it is through
the letter of the law. You don't hold people accountable

(12:17):
because of their race, religion, identity background. You hold them
accountable for the crime in which they are perpetuating. But
to ignore the ninety percent problem in Minnesota's fraud coming
from one community is to go and essentially provide a
massive excuse to individuals that may go and want to
commit this fraud in the future. And I just want

(12:41):
to mention one more thing on the left, if you
mention Somali in any way, you're a racist under their rationale.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's the game that's being played right now.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
But the problem is Democrats have made identities central to politics,
so too bad, so sad if they don't like factual
base to commentary that focuses on a specific demographics the
liberals do not get exclusivity or rights to focus on
someone's background when making a judgment call. And that's exactly

(13:19):
what they've been attempting to do in casting anybody that
would bring up the Somali communities involvement in the fraud
in Minnesota as being just a racist in order to
try to attempt to dismiss it. All right, I'll get
to those comments from both Bill Clawn and Lubri Goose
coming up, and we'll talk with our adopt that Senator
from Wisconsin, Ron Johnson just after seven point thirty. What's

(13:40):
the latest regarding the Obamacare subsidy fight heading into the
end of the year. There's a hearing that took place
and Senator Johnson will get us up to speed on
that here on Twin City's News Talk AM eleven thirty
and one oh three five FM Princy's.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
News Talk.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
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(14:28):
your yearly recap, and what I like about it too
is that there are on the recap on the iHeartRadio app,
it actually tells you how many talkbacks you left. So
we have Friend of the Show Raquel. I think her
number was one hundred and twenty eight. Yeah, I know
it's a lot. I have my guess over who the
top contenders would be a friend of their show. Scott

(14:51):
would absolutely be there. Tom would be there, but I
don't know where Tom went. We haven't heard from Friend
of the Show Tom, and you know, wellness check on Tom. Yeah, seriously,
it's been a couple of weeks. Now, I'm a little
bit concerned. What did I do to make Tom matt.
I'm trying to think if I gave him a hard
time for something that maybe wanted him to pitch off.
I have one guy that keeps emailing me. He's very
upset whenever I talk about Hollywood. Not because he doesn't

(15:12):
like the movie talk while he doesn't, but he's convinced
that I'm just supporting criminals bye bye.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
By watching Watching.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
At the Angle, I thought he was gonna go, Yeah, No.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
It's just I'm supporting pedophiles and criminals by watching by
watching any movies whatsoever. To that, I say, he who
live in glasshouses should not throw stones. I'd be curious
while all of your dollars are spent. One quick sidebar
before we get into back to fraud. I want to
play this clip from lou Or Goose really quick. I
had somebody just post on X a friend of the show, Scott.

(15:44):
I've talked about this before, but I'll bring it up
again because he brought it up. Please look into the
absentee Ballot Forever application being pushed out by Minnesota lawmakers.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Were doomed.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's not being pushed out by Minnesota lawmakers. What I
have been told is that the absent team ball mailers
that you have been receiving is actually coming from a
conservative Trump supporting group out of Colorado. The reason behind
this is that Democrats have typically owned the absentee ballot game.
And while a majority of us, myself included, want to

(16:16):
see a limit on absentee ballot voting, and when it
comes to voting outside of election day and mail in voting,
we're not there yet. So what this effort is is
try is an attempt to try to play the same
game that Democrats are playing by targeting low propensity GOP
voters and getting them on the absentee ballot list in

(16:38):
order to make sure that next year, heading into the midterms,
they go and vote. Because Democrats have already done a
good job at attempting to do this. So don't dismiss
it out right. You don't have to sign up for
but understand that's the motivation what I've been told behind
those absentee ballot mailers.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's not coming from Democrats, It's coming from Republicans. So
how do we.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Get to the billion dollar fraud estimate? So Bill Glonh
at Center of the American Experiment breaks it down in
a piece on American Experiment dot org. But Lumer Goose
from Cara Levin put up another video. Here's what he
had to say, countering the Star Tribunes reporting from over
the weekend how.

Speaker 7 (17:16):
Much money has been stolen from government programs in Minnesota.
Here's what Minnesota's Acting US Attorney Joe Thompson, the lead
prosecutor on the majority of these fraud cases, told me
in an interview a few months ago.

Speaker 8 (17:27):
I said, we we have one billion where the cases
will probably charge.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
I think the total amount of fraud is significantly larger
than one billion.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Dollars, larger than one billion dollars total. That's right, multiple billion, yes, So.

Speaker 6 (17:39):
How does it add up?

Speaker 7 (17:41):
The Feeding our Future meal fraud has reached more than
three hundred million dollars. A jury found Amy Bach, the
executive director of Feeding Our Future, who was guilty under
the prosecution's theory that she facilitated the theft of two
hundred and forty million dollars of taxpayer money as seen
on this trial exhibit. In the first trial, the defendants
were found guilty of stealing forty nine million dollars of

(18:02):
meal program money. And here's what most people don't understand.
There's another nonprofit just like Feeding our Future called Partners
in Nutrition. Forty seven million dollars of the stolen money
from that first trial was funneled through Partners and Nutrition,
not Feeding our Future. Another guy who pleaded guilty named
Hadji Salad admitted scamming nineteen million dollars through Partners in Nutrition.

(18:23):
So right there in public court records that anyone reporter
or not can review, I've shown you three hundred and
nine million dollars in stolen.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Child nutrition funds.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
What's the total amount going to be We don't know
yet because not nearly as many suspects stemming from Partners
in Nutrition have been charged yet. But those two nonprofits
doled out a grand total of four hundred and fifty
three million dollars of taxpayer money during the pandemic.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
It's a matter of what percentage of that was fraudulent.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
The Minnesota Attorney General's Office has charged about sixty million
dollars in medicaid fraud over the last five years. But
what pushes the total of fraud in Minnesota well over
a billion dollars are the schemes currently being investigated in
programs like housing stabilization, autism services, addiction, and integrated community supports.
On these graphs, you can see how these programs exploded

(19:13):
into hundreds of millions of dollars of payments. The fraud
in Housing Stabilization was so bad that it paid out
two hundred and forty million dollars despite only being budgeted
originally for two point six million per year, and Governor Walls.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
Had to completely shut it down.

Speaker 7 (19:28):
Coming to a final fraud dollar total will be a
matter of figuring out what percentage of those program reimbursements
were fraudulent.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
But back to former acting US Attorney Joe Thompson.

Speaker 7 (19:37):
When he put the total over a billion and then
interview with me, he said that the autism scam could
end up being even bigger than feeding our future.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
I'm louver Goose follow for more news.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Again that comes from Carol Levin. Listen. It's good reporting,
it's necessary reporting, but.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's also designed by the Star Star Tribune Kim's buddies
over there to muddle the issue and distract from the
failures of Walls and Ellison.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
That's why they're doing this. It doesn't mean you don't
counter it.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Billglon is right to go and do so with the
scandal tracker on American Experiment dot orglu ver Goose's reporting
is great. Hat tip to the media in this case
for doing the right thing. But this is designed to
be a distraction to take heat away in any way.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Shape or form from Walls.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
And again it demonstrates, just like I said yesterday, just
how big of trouble that Walls is in right now,
that this is really their only tactic to distract from
the national coverage that fraud continues to get. I'm doing
a podcast today for like an hour at eleven o'clock
talking about this very this very issue. An individual I've

(20:47):
never heard of before, but they certainly get a lot
of views online. So I'm like, all right, I'll talk
Minnesota fraud with you guys. So I'll give you an
update on that on tomorrow's show. Senator Ron Johnson hearing
taking place healthcare costs Senate Democrats pushing Obamacare subsidy vote
designed to fail as Republicans call the plan un serious.

(21:08):
We'll get up to date with this with our adopted
senator from Wisconsin next right here on Twin City's News
Talk Am eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.

Speaker 9 (21:16):
Hey John, I on the absentee ballot initiative. My sister
had asked me about this the other day because she
got one, and I looked into it. I also that
was what my understanding was, that it is a conservative
group and that they are just trying to get people
to not saying they have to do it. But that
is who's coming from.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Good Morning, and I love your show. So we've been
so focused as the entire nation has been on the
fraud here in Minnesota, that there's other items that are
going on, especially at the congressional level, and I'm very
pleased to be speaking to our adopted senator out of Wisconsin,

(21:57):
Ron Johnson, to get us up to speed of what
is happening in Congress currently.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Good morning, a senator. How are we doing this morning, boy.

Speaker 8 (22:04):
John Yeah, Minnesota, you've been making the news when it
comes to a welfare fraud. Does bad job are you?

Speaker 9 (22:11):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
You're feeling left out in Wisconsin and we're happy to
give away some of our fraud if you guys would
like some of it over in your great state.

Speaker 8 (22:20):
No, listen, I think what we're seeing in Mineapolis is
just the tip of the iceberg. I mean, let's face it,
the Somali's they're amateurs at this. We've got groups that
have been probably to find the feral government for decades.
They know how to do it and kind of escape detection,
primarily because as you're seeing with Governor Waltz, you've got
Democrat elect officials who aren't worried about detection, completely ignoring it.

(22:43):
So out of Washington you've seen we just had the
GAO report on fraud within the Obamacare exchanges. And what's
interesting about this? So they attempted to sign up I
think twenty four fraudulent individuals or fraudulent accounts. They for
twenty three of them eighteen were still on the exchanges

(23:04):
getting substies in September twenty twenty five. You know, for
all I know, they're still on there, but just a
repeat of a investigation they did right after the start
of the Obamacare and hasn't changed the exact thing they
happened in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. So Parragon, a group
of you know experts to estimated it is probably about

(23:25):
the twenty four million supposedly on the Obamacare exchanges, six
million are phantom accounts, people that unscrupulous agents have signed up.
They collected the commissions got both system insurance companies because
the insurance companies got the the payment directly to them
and there are no claim policies left about forty percent.

(23:45):
So you know, obviously these people they're they're not real people,
but all the money's pointed brokers and in insurance companies,
which is why for example and United helped their stock
price is up and seventy seven percent just the implementation
wibombacair go figure.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well, I'm glad you brought that up again talking with
Senator Ron Johnson. You know, we've obviously been spending a
lot of time talking about this on the on the show,
but you do raise an interesting point, and that is
the larger systemic problem that really began. It's its exposure
after Trump's inauguration. You look at what DOJ was doing
and rooting out what was taking place within USAID. I mean,

(24:25):
this is more than a this is more of a
feature than a bug of the of the Democrat Party.
And while we've been focused here in Minnesota and will
continue to be on what's taking place with the billions
and taxpayer dollars having gone up and smoke, it is
very indicative of a much larger issue plaguing the Democrat
Party as a whole, as you demonstrated with these Obamacare,
you know, subsidies in this debate, Where is this debate

(24:48):
currently as we head towards the towards the end of
the year, and what's the expectation in the Senate of
what's going to happen with these subsidies.

Speaker 8 (24:56):
Demcrats just won an issue. So the shutdown really wasn't
about the extending enhanced subseason. That was just the excuse.
The whole purpose of shutdowns was to make sure that
President Trump Republicans had no success, that the economy is
in as bad a shape as it possibly can be.
In November twenty twenty six, that the premiums have skyrocketed again.
With their allies in the media, they've done pretty successful

(25:19):
job but trying to blame Republicans for the skyrocketing premiums,
even though it's Obamacare that's causing health care costs not
to be fordable. Remember Obama promised you keep your doctorate
health care plan that was twenty thirteen live a year
for in polit a fact, and then they said that
for a family, you're going to see your premiums declined
by about twenty five hundred dollars per family. I mean,

(25:40):
premiums are up by one measurement one hundred sixty nine percent.
So it started Obambcare in places up thirty nine cents,
So that's four point three times very of inflation on
a state by state basis. I mean, Obamcare has been
a complete disaster, and the only reason most people don't
know about it is again there's only there's somewhere around
i'd say eighteen real people on the exchanges. Most people

(26:02):
get health care from Medicare, Medicaid or employee sponsored plan,
and they're hiding they're masking the massive increase in premiums
with all these subsidies, so that the people on a
bombcare in some cases now paying no premiums or sero,
which is led to the fraud or pages or fraction.
About ninety percent of the premiums on the exchange they're

(26:22):
paid for by the tax payer.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I know the Senator Chuck Shu where I put together
a plan. I believe it's kind of den on arrival.
Have Senate Republicans landed on any sort of solution to
what you're speaking to right now. I know there's a
possibility of subsidies going directly to Americans in the form
of health savings accounts, but where are the Senate GOP
right now in terms of, you know what the plan

(26:45):
is moving forward?

Speaker 8 (26:47):
Well? Because Democrats will not admit they have a problem,
and again they're not interested in working with any of us.
I've been talking to people about it, and you know, hey,
let's cover the the about one point six million people
who got into retirement early during COVID because there were
subseas in hands subsieds for people overforms in the popy line.
It's about one point six million people, some of them

(27:07):
because they're nearing retirement, they don't qualify for Medicare, they
make too much money to qualify for Medicaid. They're lily
facing premiums and extras a thirty thousand dollars years because
of Obamacare. So I think government caused their problem. I mean,
we can help up, but that's only one point sixty
million people. I've got to score on that. It costs
way less, you know, at most five billion dollars per

(27:29):
year to take care of that one, which we can
easily pay for by simply requiring people to prove citizenship
when they sign up for Obamacare. So again, there's common
sense ways of doing it. But Democrats are not interested
in solving the problem. They want an issue. And you know,
again the legacy media, the corporate media, playing right along
with them, which makes it pretty tough for us to
get the truth out there.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Shifting gears a bit.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
President Donald Trump has been talking about in his you know,
in his words, the success of the tariffs. There's potent
of tariffs going and funding concerns that farmer has farmers
have over the loss of trade that they've been dealing with. Also,
some talk about sending money back to the taxpayer of
the former two thousand dollars checks, although I don't believe

(28:13):
he's moved very much beyond that. The current talk has
been about this funding for farmers. I'm curious your your
thoughts on these potential moves by President Donald Trump.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
Well, we're thirty eight trillion dollars in debt, we'll probably
have a depicit to somewhere on two trillion dollars this year.
The average deaths or the last five years one point nine,
so you know, we are to focus on that. That's
that's one of the reasons things are unaffordable is we
continue to devalue our dollar. A value held nineteen ninety
is worth fifty one cents, a value held in twenty
fourteen's worth seventy four per cents, and the value held

(28:44):
in twenty nineteen worth eighty cents. That's why you can't
afford things. Okay, So that's caused by pretty two many dollars,
tasing too few goods. Now, one of solutions is increase
more goods, so you incentivize more production. More production of
goods here and Trump that's what he trying to do
with the trade wars is he's trying to get the
more manufacturing back here, produce more goods in America. Again,

(29:06):
I've been concerned about the trade wars. I want stability.
I haven't been particularly critical because I think a lot
of people realize that we've been treated and fairly by
our trading partners. But the farmers that they want trade,
not aid. I mean, I guess it's good that President
Trump recognizes that this has been pretty devastating for farmers,
so he's trying to help him out. But that help

(29:26):
would be very imperfect. I mean, not everybody harm by
trade is going to be able to again because it's
a government run program. Are they going to efficiently reimburse
people for the harm cause by the trade wars? I
doubt it. So Again, as soon as we can bring
some certainty stability back to our economy in terms of
figuring out where we are trade with people, again, I

(29:49):
agree with President Trump. We've got it. We have to
be treated more fairly by our trading partners. But it's
been going on now coming on to a year, and
there has been a lot of harm done to Wisconsin manufacturers,
Wisconsin farmers the same thing. I'm sure in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
We have a talkback that came into the iHeartRadio app
a quick question for talking with our adopted senator from Wisconsin,
Ron Johnson.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Hey, can you ask Ron with the statuses of President
Trump's appointments in the Senate?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Thanks?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Well, they just did.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
What is the status of potential Trump appointments in the Senate?

Speaker 8 (30:21):
Senator, We're going to confirm something like eighty to ninety
this week. Again, the Democrats are so obnoxious, so obstructionist.
We had to change the rules of the Senate was
just a majority vote because President Trump was wasn't even
on schedule to get five hundred of his nominees confirmed.
Generally in the first Congress president gets about a thousand,

(30:42):
So that's how noxious Democrats were. So we have changed
the rules. So now we're doing these nominations in block
and now we're head of schedule, so he'll get to
more than most presents because we have changed the rules.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
So lastly, if there's anything else you'd like to mention
regarding the debate over the Obamacare subsidies, I just have
one question. Do you anticipate that kind of sounds like
it that this debate is going to roll into in
the next year. What's your expectation and is there anything
else you like the listener to know.

Speaker 8 (31:09):
Senator Well, yeah, I don't think this is going to
be solved this month. But understanding anybody who wants to
extend these substies, I know your two senators do. They're
willing to perpetuate until somewhere around twenty seven to thirty
billion dollars worth of annual fraud with these no premium
policies brought about by this is hands substy So again,
I just we're thirty eight billion dollars in debt. We

(31:30):
can't afford that kind of massive fraud layered on top
of what we're uncovering in Minnesota, which I truly believe
is just the tip of the iceberg. You've got Democrat governors,
Democrat jurisdicians that look the other way. They sign up
ineligible people for all these benefits. The non government organizations
are set up to funnel the benefits. They take a
nice cut off of this, and it's just corruption across

(31:52):
the board, which is what government produces.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Heading towards the Christmas break, a Senator Ron Johnson. If
I don't get a chance to speak with you between
now and next Thursday, I just want to say thank
you for the time that you've given to the show
throughout the year, and I hope you have a fantastic
Christmas in New Year's and I look forward to speaking
with you again early next year, provided that we don't
talk between now and then.

Speaker 8 (32:15):
Well, Americ Christmas Junior listeners as well. God bless you, Thank.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
You, Thank you, Senator. Always great to speak with you.
New piece in the Star Tribune we were talking earlier.
We played the audio from Lou Ragose and comments from
Bill glah centered the American Experiment breaking down the Star
Tribune pointing out that according to what they've seen officially,
there's only one hundred and fifty two million in fraud,
not billions.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's focus. You and I both know that it's a distraction.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
It's a distraction to take away from the failures of
both Governor Tim Walls and Keith Ellison.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
So is this article here interesting?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Though Trump looms large over Minnesota GOP race for governor,
average that the President's sway among Republicans who are seeking
Minnesota's highest office was fully apparent during a gubernatorial candidate
forum in southwestern Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
All right, so let me share with you some details
from this.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Inside the crowded room Minnesota State University Southwest, nine Republicans
who are running for governor were asked to name a
policy of President Donald Trump's that they disagreed with.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I think we're at.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Eleven, if not twelve candidates at this point, unless Brett,
you've announced and I haven't and I missed the announcement.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Are you running for governor? I have not announced? Okay, yeah,
can you? I know you're from the neighboring state.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
I don't know. Am I even allowed?

Speaker 8 (33:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
No, native born?

Speaker 6 (33:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I don't think you have to be native born to run.
I've never checked your idea. Are you a legal citizen?
These all very personal questions. I apologize I should ask
you this off the air.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Of the Republicans who are running for governor, they were
asked to name a policy of President Donald Trumps that
they did agreed with, aside from passing mentions of tariffs
in the national debt. Most of the prominent candidates in
the race use the opportunity to praise Trump. Yeah, this
should not come as a shock to anybody. I'm not
saying that they are, but just again, the whole purpose
of this piece, in the way that its frame makes
me makes me laugh. It's the Jasmine Crockett way. It's

(34:17):
all anti Trump, all the time. Nearly every candidate clearly
stated that they were seeking Trump's endorsement in the governor's race.
As businessman Kendall Qualls put it, we are seeking it,
and if he does, then game over match.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Just Kendall.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Trump's sway among the Republicans who are seeking Minnesota's highest
office was fully apparent to d during the gubernatorial candidate
forum on Monday night, even as the president's approval numbers
have fallen and the GOP faced broad electoral defeats a
month ago.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Bias so blatant.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yes, in the proper context of that, of course, is
that those weres staunchly blue races. They're not going to
point to the Tennessee race, right because it had just
as much relevance when it comes to Republicans as it
did for Democrats.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I'll be whatever, it's this ar Tribune. My expectations are
low in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
The GOP candidate's risk of backlash from the party's base
if they go against the president, or they just won
support of the president because they're happy with what he's doing.
There's that option as well, Ryan Faircloth. The comments are
likely to provide ammunition for Governor Tim Walls as he

(35:34):
seeks a historic third consecutive four year term. Walls is
trying to make next year's election a referendum on Trump,
while Republicans are zeroing in on fraud cases that have
occurred during the governor's administration.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Okay, they're not wrong on that, there's some truth in it.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
So you've got former gubernatorial nominee Scott Jensen, Minneapolis attorney
Chris Maddele, food company executive Patrick Knight, retired mixed martial
artist arts fighter Brad Kohler, former US Naval intelligence officer
Philip Parrish, former Saint Cloud City council member Jeff Johnson,

(36:11):
along with Lisa Damoth, Kristen Robbins.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I think around eleven. Actually they do mention my governor.
I mean my governor like my Pillow.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
I don't mean my governor, I just mean he needs
to run that campaign, my governor campaign. Talking about Michael Lindell.
He's also announced he's running two. So the farm drew
about one hundred people as Minnesota came as Minnesota is
in the national spotlight. This is hysterical, by the way,
So the way that the Star Tribune frames this, it's
totally Republicans pounce. So the farm which drew one hundred

(36:44):
people came as Minnesota is in the national spotlight following
Trump's Trump's attacks against the Somali community and the federal
investigations into fraud in the state's welfare program.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
No, the fraud came first. Brian Faircloth at.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
The Start treviewing this is this is not national attention.
There is some truth to that, but the fraud is
what brought it here, not just Trump and Republicans pointing
it out.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
But Republicans pounce on many issues.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
The GOP candidates were in alignment, not a huge surprise there.
They said they wanted to reduce fraud, improved the state's
education system, and lower taxes, among other things. All of
the candidates said they would sign bills barring transgender athletes
from competing in girl sports and disallowing sanctuary cities and

(37:40):
counties in Minnesota. Most of the candidates said they would
support term limits for governor and the legislature, as well
as repealing the moratorium on nuclear energy. Mattel and Jensen
both jabbed at GOP lawmakers in the race. Chris Maddel
said all of the state government, Republican and Democrats have

(38:00):
nothing with respect to fraud. They've literally done nothing except
write letters. Mattel, who then cited his own fraud fighting credentials,
was it. Mattel is certainly taking a very interesting approach.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
To this race. I guess this's the only way that
I can describe it.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I'm kind of not sure why he's not running as
an independent at this point in time. But if you
want to align yourselves with conservatives here in Minnesota, I'm
not sure that criticizing the Republicans, especially those in the legislature,
that have done everything within their power to do to

(38:43):
deal with the fraud but have been shot down every
single step of the way. And yeah, I'm defending them
a little bit, I'm not sure that saying that Republicans
and Democrats have done nothing with respect to fraud is
the right approach. Also, from what I've heard, dismissing the

(39:03):
very appropriate concerns over his past donation record, donating multiple
times to the Secretary of State Steve Simon donating money
to Governor Tim Walls, especially post COVID.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Now supposed to have Mattel.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
I'm working on having him on the show next week
before I head off on vacation. So these are all
things that I'll be talking about with him, and he's
not shied away from addressing any of these issues whatsoever.
It just seems to be a rather interesting approach as all.
I'm not sure that it's a winning one, but then again,
right now, none of these candidates are really igniting a large.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Group of people on fire. And I'll get to that
in just a moment.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
Now.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
While he praised Trump at times, Jensen was the only
candidate who said he wasn't seeking Trump's endorsement, though he
added that he certainly would accept it if he got it. Okay,
The battle for the GOP nomination, the article goes on
to say, could stretch into August. The Minnesota Republican Party
we'll hold their endorsing convention next spring to pick a
candidate to take on Walls. If Walls is still the candidate.

(40:07):
Half the candidates in Monday's forum said they would take
their campaigns to the August primary election if they do
not win the endorsement. Kendall Qualls express concerns on Monday
Night about a divisive intra party fight in the months ahead.
If we go to the primary divided, we're going to
give Tim Walls a third term. Qualls said, we have

(40:28):
to solidify behind the candidate before that primary, and we
have to solidify behind the candidate after the primary. It's
kind of why I take a bit of an issue
with what Mattel is doing because I agree with what
Qualls is saying here. I mean, Chris Maddle is entitled
to his opinion and he can approach his campaign however
he wants. But that being said to be costic towards

(40:48):
our own party right now is only going to seek
to end up dividing us. If that's the approach you
want to take, go for it. But if we do
want to beat Walls or whoever the nominee is next year,
providing that Walls goes survives this fraud of scandal that's
currently plaguing him, I don't want to see Republicans go
and eat our own to the point where whoever the

(41:10):
nominee is ends up coming out of that primary so
damaged that they've lost a majority of the support from
Republicans who don't want to go and vote for them. Now,
that would be disastrous for everybody. So now again, none
of these candidates really getting any significant level of combined enthusiasm.
That is more of a reflection on Walls than it

(41:31):
is the candidate. Walls is a disaster, and people are
searching for a slam duck slam dunk candidate against him,
and that's just not realistic.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
It really isn't support whoever you want to support. Don't
keep saying this.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
During this process heading to the primary, and then get
behind whoever that candidate is, even if that individual isn't
the person that you supported, and even if the people
around you aren't supporting the same candidate as you, don't
bloody and beat them up along the way, because that's
not going to do anybody any good.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
All right, we'll get some more of.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Your comments from the iHeartRadio app coming up in just
a moment. Those are brought to you by Lyndall Realty,
also Minneapolis Times.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Why is Tim Walls running?

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I was really impressed with this piece questioning why Governor
Walls was still running for re election and then I
got to the end and they did something that so
many local dfllers do. After laying out all the reasons
why in this case Walls shouldn't be the nominee and
should not continue to be governor, they end up defaulting

(42:36):
to Orange man Bad and we're gonna support Walls anyways.
I'll give you details on this. Also have some fantastic
emails that rolled in regarding paid family leave that I
want to want to share some real world experiences that
people are dealing with, so I'll share those with you
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