December 3, 2025 • 39 mins
For Hour 2 of the show Tom Emmer joins the show to talk about the fraud that has taken place in Minnesota. Then Jon transitions to talking about the paid family leave program.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Our two for a Wednesday Twins Cities News talk. Hey,
I'm eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. Glad
you're with the show this morning. Representative Tom Emmer coming
up in about twenty minutes from now. Got a lot
of ground to cover between now and then, so let's
dive into it. We'll get to your talkbacks coming up
here in just a moment. First off, the Trump administration
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has moved to freeze all immigration applications from nineteen countries,
including the President's expanded travel ban order, halting green card
the process for obtaining a green card, naturalization ceremonies, and
other immigration benefits for tens of thousands of foreign nationals,
according to multiple reports, I would question, I'm not opposed
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to the ban at all. In the wake of everything
that has transpired, not just what's been going on here
in Minnesota, which we'll dive into, but also of course
the attack on our national guard, I would question and
why the need to halt it now? Meaning were we
not doing proper vetting up until this point in time,
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or again, is this just a means to bring attention
to the issue right now? Re examine the criteria for
those that we were allowing into countries that are of
concern Iran, Somalia, Sudan, Eritrea, Haiti, and others. The halt
does apply to every immigration form type processed by the
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US Citizenship and Immigration Services, not only green car petitions,
but also naturalization requests, asylum related filing's, work permits, and
travel restrictions. According to a statement provided to CBS News
working off an article from Newsmax, the Department of Homeland
Security did not dispute the freeze. Officials said the administration
is committed to the highest standards of screening. So that's
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my only question on this is if we're not screening
individuals appropriately or haven't been up until this point, what
changes are we going to be making now with this
pause or is this just a means to continue to
keep the story at the forefront within the news cycle,
which is a possibility as well. Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry
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says President Trump has promised to deploy National Guard troops
to New Orleans to provide security in the French Quarter.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Ahead of the holidays.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I only bring this up because I have an expectation
of what may play out here in Minnesota. As I
mentioned at the start of the week, I've been hearing
reports that we would see a ramping up of efforts
relating to cracking down on immigration here in the state,
and of course this was a topic yesterday that was
dominating local media headlines. We have the audio to share.
It really is stunning to hear the Minneapolis Police chief
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siding with individuals who are breaking the law, Minneapolis mambybe
may or Mom Jeans Jacob Frye siding with individuals who
are breaking the law because that is who they are
appeal to when they push back on the efforts of
federal law enforcement coming into the state to uphold the law.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
If you're here legally, I.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Don't care where you're from. I don't care who you are.
I don't care what your religion is. I don't care
what your identity is. I don't care what you watched
last night. I don't care what you ate for breakfast
this morning. If you are here legally, you don't have
anything to worry about if you're not committing a crime.
If you're here illegally, yeah you should probably worry, and
that's on you. My expectation is if the Twin City
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activist raise enough of a RUCKUS relating to ICE moving
forward with their efforts here in Minnesota. It could force
Trump to go and deploy the National Guard here, in
which case we would continue to be in the national spotlight.
And it's all a good thing in my opinion, because
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I know we've been talking about the fraud and what's
been happening here for a long time, and I think
it's become commonplace for people to kind of roll their eyes, Oh,
it's just fraud here in Minnesota because of the programs,
and it should never be that way, and it kind
of was getting to that place up until now as
the rest of the country.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Finds out and it really is.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I don't know what the word I want to use is.
But I went on Will Kine yesterday. Will Kine's show
yesterday after noon. He ended up replaying some of the
clips on Fox News yesterday, which was really quite funny
because my wife was on the phone with her mom
and in the middle of that conversation, I had no
idea I hear it, Hey.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
John, you're on Fox News right now.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
My mom just told me she's watching you in Arizona.
But it was really interesting to see Will Kine and
his eyes just go wide as I begin to explain
the extent of which the fraud has been occurring here
in Minnesota. And again, we've been dealing with these things
for a long long time. And yet too the outside,
you know, outside of our state's borders, that you know,
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our people who aren't from here left here because of
the fraud taking place, comes as a stunning shock to
hear there could be some six billion dollars worth of
fraud perpetuated under Governor Tim Walls's watch. All right, let's
keep with the theme here for just a moment, because
I'm happy to see that we're getting this attention. Walls
is in big, big trouble. We're gonna get into that.
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We have a story to share a little bit later on,
because he's siding with these investigations into fraud here in Minnesota.
But make no mistake, he does not want to be
doing that. Governor Tim Walls is not happy right now.
The Trump administration has put him in a really tough
spot because Walls is not in a position to say, no,
I don't want anybody's help in investigating our fraud when
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he's been very vocal saying I'll take all the help
we can get because one of the excuses that Walls
has been presenting is that we don't have enough manpower
here to go and deal with all of it, which
is nothing but.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Words.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I can't say on the radio, bogus. We'll go with bogus.
We'll go with that.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Be word, we'll go with We'll go with bogus.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
During that cabinet meeting yesterday, Trump did not hold back
on his thoughts of the current situation relating to immigration
and fraud here in Minnesota, at one point saying this.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
AMI's ripped off that state for.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Billions of dollars billions every year, billions of dollars. And
they contribute nothing. The welfare is like eighty eight percent.
They contribute nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I don't want them in our country.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I'll be honest with you, Okay, So we would say, oh,
that's not politically correct.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I don't want them in our country. Their country is
no good for a reason. Their country stakes, and we
don't want them in our country. I can say that
about other countries too. I can say that about other
countries too.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
We don't want them to help.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
We got to we have to rebuild our country. You know,
our country is at a tipping point. We could go bad.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
We're at a tipping point. I don't know if people.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Mind me saying that, but I'm saying that we could
go one way or the other, and we're going to
go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage
into our country. Elan Omar is garbage. She's garbage, Her
friends are garbage.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
These are people that work.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
These aren't people that say, let's go, come on, let's
make this place great. These are people that do nothing
but complain. They complain, and from where they came from
they got nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You know, they came.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
From paradise, and they said, this isn't paradise. But when
they come from hell and they complain and do nothing,
but bitch, we don't want them in our country. Let
them go back to where they came from and fix it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
The level of honesty that President Donald Trump spoke, regardless
of whether or not you agree or disagree, I expect
that those comments are more than likely and going to
become a point of contention heading into the day. Those
were said yesterday, and you got to give Democrats time
to send out their orders of how they want to
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frame their arguments against Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Be that is in May. Whether you agree or disagree, that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Level of honesty coming from the President is elevating the
conversation of what we're faced with here in Minnesota. It's
giving many individuals the confidence to speak out frankly and
factually about these issues in the face of racist accusations.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It is not easy. A lot of people forget this.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's not easy when people go and label you horrible things.
Certainly not easy for an average individual just online or
talking amongst friends. It's not really even easy for say,
your average representative orb senator here in the state that
hasn't weighed in to these particular issues and been called
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these things before. If you're not accustomed to it, it
can be something's difficult to go and deal with, and
it can force you into a position where you hold
back of speaking authentically and honestly about an issue and
in no way, shape or form racist, but just the
fear that you have of being labeled that. And when
Trump goes and speaks frankly like that, it provides the
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opportunity for other individuals to step up and do the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And for that, I'm appreciative of his comments.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
I'm curious why you're at all surprised about Old Haara yesterday,
being that it wasn't very long ago that he did
a hosted video saying that he couldn't have been referring
to East Affort and Dass criminals.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, let's back up here. First off, it wasn't a
hostage video. I understand what your point was, but let's
get into what he actually did. So the police chief,
Brian O'Hara, came out a couple weeks back, and he
specifically said, frankly and factually that the crime that was
being perpetuated in certain parts of Minneapolis was being done
by kids from East Africa coming in on there in
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their parents high end automobiles and causing all of what
was taking place, basically pointing out that this wasn't happening
within individuals from individuals living in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
He was being very specific. Now, the video that you're.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Referring to, he stopped short of an apology, apart from
saying that I'm sorry if you got offended by what
I said. So, yeah, it was an apology. I framed
it as such on the show, But it wasn't like
he pulled back. He didn't take back what he said
in that moment. He didn't say I was wrong. It
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is not kids from East Africa doing this. He basically
just said I'm sorry if you got offended over this.
What's really funny about that, though, before I make a
larger point, what's really funny about this is that now
you see all these individuals who are calling out the
fraud being majority of some all who are perpetuating it,
who are being called racist, and yet you had the
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police chief that was doing the same thing a couple
of weeks ago. To your initial point, why are you
at all surprised? It's not a matter of being surprised.
I'm not surprised doing that thing with my fingers over it,
But I'm not going to ignore it either, because it's
not right.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It's wrong, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So doesn't surprise me that the police chief comes out
and sides with individuals here who are breaking the law.
He's a Democrat. But just because you expect it doesn't
mean you don't call it out. It doesn't mean you
don't go and point to how ridiculous it is.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
So it's not a lack of being surprised, Like, why
are you surprised? I get that all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I just want to clarify it would be to our
detriment to not give off the vibe that we're surprised
to sit back go well, you know, that's what gets
us in trouble in the first place. That's just how
people are. That's just how Walls is. That's how Walls
wants you to think. I'm just a knucklehead. Sometimes I
say stupid things. We should not sit back and go
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I'm not surprised at all by this and not make
a big deal. No, you should make a big deal
about it, because just because it might be commonplace for
a person to act this way doesn't mean you don't
draw attention to how ridiculous it is.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Kind of what I get paid to do.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So all right, coming up, Representative Tom Emmer will be
joining us after we talk to Tom. Governor Tim Walls
welcomes the federal probe into the fraud allegations. You commit fraud,
you're going to prison. Acting like a tough guy. He
doesn't want to, but this is the position that Trump
has forced him into, and we'll get into it after
we talk with Tom Emmer next here on Twin City's
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News Talk Am eleven thirty and one O three five FM.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
They have what's called a Trump derangement problem.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Have you heard about that problem?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Twesday's News Talk AM eleven thirty one oh three five
FM from the six y five to one Carpet plus
Next Day Install Studios. My name is John Justice. I
don't want to waste a moment, Representative Tom Emmer. I
suppose Tom, we can really just do a choose your
own Minnesota adventure topic as we invite you on the
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show this morning, is there any particular thing that you
would like to start off because we have so many
items to choose from as Minnesota dominates the national headlines
right now.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Good morning, Yeah, it dominates it for the wrong reason. Yep,
Good morning, John. Look, I am so grateful for President
Donald J. Trump. I thank you, by the way, anybody
listening in for you, John, I did not encourage him
to go at this fraud. I don't know where it
came from, but when he did it, I let him
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know one thank you from all of Minnesota. We've been
trying to sound the alarm on this fraud for three years, John,
three years we could not get anyone in Minnesota like
focus on the fraud that's been rampant under Tim Walls,
A confident what phony administration. It wasn't until President Trump
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a couple of weeks ago decided he was going to
tweet out or truth out on a Friday night. You're
being they're stealing you blind in Minnesota, and since then,
man as it picked up. I mean, think about it.
Joe Thompson, former acting US attorney, said that the fraud
under the under the Walls administration takes your breath away.
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It's over a billion dollars and it's they're still counting. John.
It's not just excuse me, it's not just the the
feeding our future, the largest pandemic fraud case in the
country two hundred and fifty million bucks. It's the housing fraud.
It's the autism fraud. It's the medicaid fraud, it's the
daycare fraud. I mean, it just keeps going on and on. Now.
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The Secretary of Transportation is looking into it because they've
issued all of these, like in the thousands licenses to illegals.
A small business administrator, Kelly Loeffler is looking in the Minnesota,
and the biggest one was Treasury Secretary a couple of
days ago Scott bessen said, he is going to be
investigating his office is going to be investigating the allegations
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that this money, a lot of the fraudulent money that
was literally we're not attacking the Somali community, as you know, John,
it's not racist to call out criminal activity. And darn
near all of these people who have been charged come
from the Somali community, and they were shipping money back
to Somalia. By the way, Al Chabab controls Somalia, a
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known terrorist group. Scott bessons, the Treasury Secretary is going
to investigate how much of this money and we know
it's already millions, but how much actually went into the
hands of Al Shabab. This is taxpayer money from the
state of Minnesota, and Tim Walls and Keith Ellison have
not only ignored it, allegedly, according to whistleblowers, allegedly, they
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not only ignored it, they retaliated against Minnesota employees who
tried to warn them about it. So there's a lot
more to come on this, John, and it's the wrong guy.
It's the wrong story for Minnesota. But this is why
Tim Walls his career at politics should be over.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Well, the LID on the jar is off. I mean
there's worms. There's worms everywhere right now.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean everything is out, is out in the open,
and even the media can't escape it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
To your point of Walls, I know a lot of
people a couple of weeks back, in the wake of
that City.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Journal article and taxpayer dollars going to fund terrorism, when
I called for Walls to resign, you know, we're like, Oh,
he's never going to resign, that's crazy, and he'll still
be the nominee. I'm not so I listen. I wasn't
so sure then. I'm certainly not so sure. Now do
you see Walls continuing to survive this, I mean I
don't see.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I think it's greater.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Than fifty to fifty right now that he is not
the nominee for Democrats for governor next year.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I agree with you. I don't think you ever should
have run in the first place. I don't think his
party likes him. I mean, he was an embarrassment to
not just Minnesota. On the national stage, he was an
embarrassment to the Democrat Party. He and Kamala Harris were pathetic.
And you know, when you get caught on national TV
John lying about something as dumb as when you were
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at Tienaman Square, Right. He gets caught a national TV
in a flat out lie, and his response is, well,
you know, I grew up in a small town and
sometimes I'm a bit of a knucklehead. It was over
right there right now. Now we've got a bigger issue
going on. I'm not so worried about whether he'll be
the candidate in Minnesota as I am about the fact
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that this guy literally may have, may have, may may
be involved in criminal activity. He may be complicit in
criminal activity. If what these Minnesota employees who are claiming
they they warned Tim Walls about the fraud they told
him about the fraud that was going out of his administration.
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If that's true, John, and if it's also true that
then he not only refused to accept their their advice,
but he retaliated against him. John, That side almost rises
to the level of a criminal act. And we're gonna
We're gonna have to see where this goes. But Kim
Walls should not be running for aug as Kim Walls
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should not be running anything. I mean, I don't know
that I trust him to drive my kids bus.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
One last question for you talking with Representative Tom Emmer
so last week you along with a Congresswoman Fishbock, we
had Finstad and we had Stobber. I know that you
all sent a letter to US Attorney David Rosen to
open an investigation into what you mentioned of taxpayer dollars
going to potentially fund terrorism. We did have the announcement
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from Scott Descent earlier this week from the Treasury Department
saying they were looking into it. Are you still looking
to have Rosen open an investigation as well? Or is
what the Treasury Secretary said enough already in terms of
investigating those taxpayer dollars going out of the country.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah. No, Minnesota and the US Attorney in Minnesota, Dan Rosen,
absolutely should be investigating this. My understanding is he is okay.
I'm sure that he's sharing his information with the with
the Treasury Secretary Scott Besson in his office. But John,
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it's not just Dan Rosen. Scott Besson and the Treasury
are investigating this. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy and his team
are investigating Minnesota. I said it earlier. Small Business Administrator
Kelly Loeffler is investigating Minnesota. Look Pam Bondi, the attorney general.
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She's trying to get information about voting records in Minnesota
that they won't provide. How deep does this corruption go? John,
How deep does it go? And how high is the responsibility?
Does it go all the way to the governor's office?
I'm telling you, if it does, he should not only
be gone, he should be prosecuting. That's literally where we're at.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Tell I'm going to go a little bit long here.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Let me add one more, let me ask one more thing,
because it it just came to mind. You've obviously been
involved in Minnesota politics for a long long time.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And you know, in the now going on my tenth
year here.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
When I first started, you know, we had some conversations
around the daycare fraud that was going on. Obviously, it's
nowhere near what we're dealing with with now.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'm just curious to get your perspective of.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Where the state is now currently as opposed to earlier
in your you know, time in politics here in Minnesota.
I'm just you know, I'm curious to get your instinctive
reaction to a you know, then versus versus now of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Minnesota, California, and New York are great examples. And by
the way, it's not just there. You can go to Portland,
you can go to Seattle, you can you can find
in Denver. Places that are run by these Democrats for
the last decade are pathetic. John, Minnesota is like a
Petri dish that shows you what happens with one party
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rule when they control all the different facets of government,
whether it's the Secretary of State controlling all the voting stuff,
whether it's the governor controlling the state patrol, the min
dot all the I mean, it shows you when you
put incompetent people in charge, and by the way, not
only incompetent, but self centered and self directed people that
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are purely political, the result is frankly tragic in places
like Minnesota. What I've seen over the last decade. And
you know, I really appreciate John. You reminded me that
I've gotten a lot older, and we all have that.
But I mean, I remember when I first got elected
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to the Minnesota Legislature with someone named Melissa Hortman. We
completely disagreed right on policy issues, but we actually could
debate it. Melissa was a decent human being that despite
our differences, we could still, you know, be kind to
each other in the hallway, and you know she was
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kind to my daughter. It just we have lost that, John.
That's the biggest change is now these people are not
happy with anything we try to. You know, we've been
trying to talk to the governor's office, We've been trying
to talk to others in Minnesota about the problems that
have been occurring. This should not be a Republican Democrats.
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This should be common sense tells us this is wrong.
We need to fix it. Regardless of our politics, we
need to fix it. And that's the biggest thing that's changed.
Every single time you raise an issue that needs to
get resolved that defies common sense that it's happening, it
turns into what us and them arguing. And that's the
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thing that's changed more than anything else. And quite frankly,
I look forward to the day when we start to
come back together and realize, at the end of the day,
we're all Americans. We're fortunate to live in the greatest
free country on the face of the planet. We can
have our disagreements, but we need to be able to
live together peacefully and happily. And that's the thing that's missing.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, one thing that hasn't change, and I'm not I'm
not going to side with the global warming alarmist.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
The one thing that hasn't changed is in Minnesota weather.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
We have em or weather coming up later on this week,
currently dealing with a bit of that right now.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
So I'm sure you're pleased.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
But Representative Tom emmeras always, thank you for the time
this morning. I look forward to talking with you again
next week.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Thank John. Thanks thanks all.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Right, got a lot of talk backs rolling in, including
this one.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
We'll get some more of them coming up in just
a moment.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Good morning, John. This is Frank, first time caller, Frank Say.
I was wondering if you have heard about the new
Minnesota program, the Paid Family Leave Act or whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yes, I have.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
That's coming in January one, Yes it is, which is
going to hope Well, I hope it doesn't drive all
the businesses out, but it has that potential, Yes, it does.
Just curious if you're familiar with it.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Maybe yes I am.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And as a matter of fact, we're going to talk
about this a bit coming up in just a moment.
Governor Tim Walls in the middle of changing the subject
from fraud did give an update on the Minnesota paid
leave program. He wants to make sure everybody knows it's
gonna be fine. Guys, everything's gonna be fine. Don't believe
a word that he is saying. I'll share with you
the audio. We'll get back to more of your talkbacks
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Next on Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty and
one oh three five FM. I'm gonna dive into paid
family leave here in just a moment. A lot of
comments have rolled in on the iHeart Radio app that
I want to get to.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
We have multiple.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Audio clips to share of Governor Tim Walls not just
talking about paid family leave, but also his desire welcoming
a federal probe into fraud allegations. I know he doesn't
want to do that, so we're going to get into that. Okay,
don't don't worry. I don't want to get there though,
because I know there's gonna be a lot more comments.
I want to I want to tackle a talk back
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the iHeartRadio app. Talkbacks are brought to you by Lyndahl
Realty here on Twin Cities News Talk as we continue
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Speaker 8 (26:12):
Yeah, good morning, good show as always. Yeah, listening to
emmor talk about it should should, should this? This, this,
nothing's going to change, nothing's going to happen, and every
judge in Minnesota is just laughing at him.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Nothing's going to happen. I hate to tell you it's
all on purpose.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Okay, So I refuse to adopt that attitude. I don't
want to push too hard back against the talkbacker. They're
a friend of the show that they have comments all
the time, and I appreciate it. I would ask. I
would ask the question though, like did you vote in
the last election. If you did, then why are you
adopting that mentality? Like if you're of the opinion that
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individuals or this is nothing's going to change, then why bother?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I would also ask why do you listen to the show?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I mean, I suppose it's still entertaining even if you
don't think the things are going to change. But if
you're still getting involved in politics and yet that's the
attitude that you have, if you were my friend, let's
consider ourselves friends.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I would say, well, maybe drop that attitude because you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
You know, you're going to discourage other individuals from going
and getting involved. So again, I just refuse to adopt
that attitude. Things haven't changed a lot of things. A
lot of times things do stay the same. But we
should never give up the fight or just resign ourselves
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to oh, it's never going to change, so not going
to do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Just just curious.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
If you voted in the election, then why do you
still have that attitude.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Let's go here.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Morning, John, Alex Pauline com members right have lost our
ability to talk to each other. I just wish we
would call out why we have lost our ability to
talk to each other. It hasn't been Conservatives and Republicans.
We have been shut down because the Liberals, the Democrats,
whatever you want to call them, you don't want to
have the conversation. And that should be pointed out. We
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haven't lost it. They don't want to talk to us,
that's exact.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I reiterated this when I was on Will Kain's show yesterday.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Humble Bragg, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So there's no point in debating with Democrats right now,
right now, especially here in Minnesota, is the time to
take some victory lapse from the perspective that what those
congressional or excuse me, what those Republicans in our legislature
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said during the time of the Trifecta was absolutely correct
on almost every single front relating to the programs that
were being put forward without debate, when the calls of
concern were ignored that have all exploded in terms of
initial costs that are now filled with fraud. This is
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where you need to point out We've been saying this
all along. I'm not debating with Walls, I'm not debating
with Democrat, with dflers in the legislature, we told you
you were wrong. We're being proven right that you were wrong.
And this is why they need to be voted out
of office heading into next year, because the opportunity right
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now is as.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Big as it's ever been.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
We've never had this level of scrutiny on what we
have been faced with here in Minnesota for years than
we do right now at this very moment at seven
forty seven am on Wednesday, December third, and this needs
to carry over into next year and there's going to more.
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This is just the tip of the iceberg. It is
not going to be getting any better. It is only
going to get worse for Democrats.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
The reason this the tip of the iceberg is for
one thing, the state of Minnesota still has refused to
the Walls administration has refused to provide the SNAP numbers,
you know, with privacy concerns and all other kind of
b yes reasons, but you know, if there's this level
of fraud in other programs Medicaid and Feed the Future
and all these other things, you know, the SNAP is
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way out of control in this state.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
So just wait till that comes out.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Another thing, Yeah, well, and as well paid family leave,
let's go there from Channel five. Beginning today, any Minnesota
parent who welcome the child in this year can apply
for leave to be used in twenty twenty six. DEED
hopes that also reduces demand on January first, Why are
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they hoping it reduces demand? I thought this was all
going to be fine. Why would DEED be worried about
demand on this program if everything's going to be hunky dory.
And this is why Walls is currently out to doing
a tour trying to explain to everybody, Hey, guys, it's
all going to be great now.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
This also, of.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Course, means that additional payroll tax to help pay for
the program zero point eighty eight percent each pay period,
although at least half must be played by paid for
by employers. Here's what Walls had to say briefly, as
he continues to try to reassure individuals that listen, pay
family leave is going to be fine.
Speaker 11 (31:38):
And one of the things is that has been missing
in America is what happens if you have a child,
how do you take time away and how do you
bond with that child? Which we know all the research
shows how big a difference that makes, or what happens
if you've got a family member that's sick.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
We stop here really quick. Could we not have women
take time off? I'm pretty sure there's this thing called
maternity leave. Would you work that you can go and
take time off. It's not like suddenly paid family medical
leave is now opening up the door and women were
forced to give birth to an immediately go back to
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work again within a matter of days.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
It's such a false argument.
Speaker 11 (32:20):
My family's going through that right now with a mother
in law, or what happens if you yourself have an
illness and have to be either through treatments or hospitalized.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
The choice in the past was.
Speaker 11 (32:33):
Lose your job or go broke, or care for yourself
or as we were just saying, if you're lucky enough
to have family support and people who do that, it's
not the way things should be done. And I continue
to say this. The United States is about one of
three or four countries it doesn't have some type of
program like this. Now we join the states that are
going to implement a paid family medical leap PA.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It's also bogus. When I went out in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Right before my dear friend Drew's passing, was recovering in
the hospital when that happened. But that was completely unexpected,
not Drew, but both things were my having to go
through a third open heart surgery, and of course Withdrew
passing and passing away, completely unexpected.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
And you know what, I was able to take time off.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's a long recovery from open heart Surgery's almost a month.
We didn't have paid family leave. I really didn't have
anything special relating to extra abilion to take time off. No,
I was able to take time off. I was still
able to get paid through what already existed within the
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framework of my job and my health care benefits. Now, granted,
I wouldn't have been able to take twenty weeks off,
but nobody should be taking twenty weeks off.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Wall says, though, you can rest assured the state's been
running beta tests for more than a month and tried
to learn from the issues of the old troubled Minnesota
Licensing and a Registration system MINLARS. The program has been built,
says Walls, by some of the best folks in the
country to do this. The governor assured media members, well,
who built MINLARS.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I mean, if the.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
New program is being built by some of the best
folks in the country, then who the heck did you
hire originally for mind lars. I'm gonna guess that if
I were to go back and look, you could probably
find quotes from Walls prior to MINLARS being implemented, saying
this is being built by the best, brightest coders in
the country.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 12 (34:56):
I own a small, very small cabinet shopper Cities. It's
just me, but I've been seriously considering adding some employees
because of my workload. But I got to tell you,
I'm reconsidering that with this paid medical family leave thing
that's coming to effect here the first of the year,
because I just don't see how I can afford it.
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Margins just aren't there.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Thanks Well's went on in this piece from Channel five
railing against Republicans for not supporting the program and claiming
it'll be dal litle with fraud. How disrespectful to people
to assume all Minnesotans are scamming. Nobody is doing that,
and that's not what the criticism is. The criticism is
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what I just shared with you. The criticism is for
individuals like me that aren't going to take twenty weeks off,
that don't really necessarily have a job that's really conducive
to taking lots of time off. That is completely counter
to what I do in this position job that I chose.
But guess what, I'm going to be forced to lose
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money to pay for other individuals to go and take
more time off than they need.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's infuriating.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
There is no disrespect in assuming because people aren't assuming
that all Minnesotas are scamming.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
But what a ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Notion by our knucklehead hack governor to sit back and say, oh,
it's just disrespectful to talk about Minnesota scamming when we're
sitting on billions of dollars worth of fraud that has
been perpetuated under his watch that he didn't give a
rip about until it ended up landing in the headlines
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here in Minnesota yesterday. During that interview that I mentioned,
I was asked, how in the world did all of
this happen? I mean, this has been going on for
as long as you say it's been going on. How
did this not erupt into some major scandal? The point
being made by will Caine was typically you would see
individuals resign for less than this, and I go, you're right,
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but Minnesota isn't typical because our media here sucks. They
may cover the fraud briefly and then they let it go.
They ignore all the cries from individuals that are concerned,
saying that Walls needs to resign because he is the
individual at the top. The buck is supposed to stop
with him. He said as much, but the media gave
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him a free pass, so there was never enough controversy
to erupt to demand an outcry of individuals that would
go and essentially impact him electorally to get him to respond.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
That is changing right now.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
With the amount of coverage that we see of the
lists that I started the show off with this morning
of the new I mean, the investigations into Minnesota right
now at the federal level.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Like, there's too many to mention. Let's get back to
some of your thoughts.
Speaker 13 (37:57):
Oh, that paid family leave, that thing is going to
be nasty because they've already got FMLA that people get
on it for the let's just say, weakest and runniest
of reasons, and they abuse the living snot out of it.
You throw this in there, there are so many people
going to abuse the crap out of that. It's going
to bankrupt companies.
Speaker 14 (38:20):
John, This family paid leave is going to be great.
The wife and I retired, we're thinking about going back
to work so we can get about a month or
two off. This is going to be great. Employees are
going to be just banging at the doors of business
to get their free time off us be tired. People
are going to be hitting back to the workforce. No
businesses will go broke. There is that, But this is going.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
To be great, all right, I have a shocking number
of talkbacks that have rolled into the iHeartRadio apples are
brought to you by Lyndall Realty. So I'm gonna spend
a few minutes here working through your comments to share
on the show. Governor Tim Walls welcomes to federal probe
and defraud allegations while the Twin Cities embraces for ICE
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agents to descend as soon as this week. The freak
out has begun and the headlines being written over this
Twin Cities on alert after threat of ICE enforcement against
Somali community. That's the headline from the Star Tribune. There's
another way to do that headline that's actually more accurate.
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It should be more like Twin Cities on ice watch
as federal law enforcement plans to crack down on immigration lawbreakers.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Like that's an accurate headline.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
What the Star Tribune just said, Twin Cities on alert
after a threat of ICE enforcement against Somali community.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
That's propaganda.
Our two for a Wednesday Twins Cities News talk. Hey,
I'm eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. Glad
you're with the show this morning. Representative Tom Emmer coming
up in about twenty minutes from now. Got a lot
of ground to cover between now and then, so let's
dive into it. We'll get to your talkbacks coming up
here in just a moment. First off, the Trump administration
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has moved to freeze all immigration applications from nineteen countries,
including the President's expanded travel ban order, halting green card
the process for obtaining a green card, naturalization ceremonies, and
other immigration benefits for tens of thousands of foreign nationals,
according to multiple reports, I would question, I'm not opposed
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to the ban at all. In the wake of everything
that has transpired, not just what's been going on here
in Minnesota, which we'll dive into, but also of course
the attack on our national guard, I would question and
why the need to halt it now? Meaning were we
not doing proper vetting up until this point in time,
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or again, is this just a means to bring attention
to the issue right now? Re examine the criteria for
those that we were allowing into countries that are of
concern Iran, Somalia, Sudan, Eritrea, Haiti, and others. The halt
does apply to every immigration form type processed by the
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US Citizenship and Immigration Services, not only green car petitions,
but also naturalization requests, asylum related filing's, work permits, and
travel restrictions. According to a statement provided to CBS News
working off an article from Newsmax, the Department of Homeland
Security did not dispute the freeze. Officials said the administration
is committed to the highest standards of screening. So that's
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my only question on this is if we're not screening
individuals appropriately or haven't been up until this point, what
changes are we going to be making now with this
pause or is this just a means to continue to
keep the story at the forefront within the news cycle,
which is a possibility as well. Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry
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says President Trump has promised to deploy National Guard troops
to New Orleans to provide security in the French Quarter.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Ahead of the holidays.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I only bring this up because I have an expectation
of what may play out here in Minnesota. As I
mentioned at the start of the week, I've been hearing
reports that we would see a ramping up of efforts
relating to cracking down on immigration here in the state,
and of course this was a topic yesterday that was
dominating local media headlines. We have the audio to share.
It really is stunning to hear the Minneapolis Police chief
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siding with individuals who are breaking the law, Minneapolis mambybe
may or Mom Jeans Jacob Frye siding with individuals who
are breaking the law because that is who they are
appeal to when they push back on the efforts of
federal law enforcement coming into the state to uphold the law.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
If you're here legally, I.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Don't care where you're from. I don't care who you are.
I don't care what your religion is. I don't care
what your identity is. I don't care what you watched
last night. I don't care what you ate for breakfast
this morning. If you are here legally, you don't have
anything to worry about if you're not committing a crime.
If you're here illegally, yeah you should probably worry, and
that's on you. My expectation is if the Twin City
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activist raise enough of a RUCKUS relating to ICE moving
forward with their efforts here in Minnesota. It could force
Trump to go and deploy the National Guard here, in
which case we would continue to be in the national spotlight.
And it's all a good thing in my opinion, because
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I know we've been talking about the fraud and what's
been happening here for a long time, and I think
it's become commonplace for people to kind of roll their eyes, Oh,
it's just fraud here in Minnesota because of the programs,
and it should never be that way, and it kind
of was getting to that place up until now as
the rest of the country.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Finds out and it really is.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I don't know what the word I want to use is.
But I went on Will Kine yesterday. Will Kine's show
yesterday after noon. He ended up replaying some of the
clips on Fox News yesterday, which was really quite funny
because my wife was on the phone with her mom
and in the middle of that conversation, I had no
idea I hear it, Hey.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
John, you're on Fox News right now.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
My mom just told me she's watching you in Arizona.
But it was really interesting to see Will Kine and
his eyes just go wide as I begin to explain
the extent of which the fraud has been occurring here
in Minnesota. And again, we've been dealing with these things
for a long long time. And yet too the outside,
you know, outside of our state's borders, that you know,
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our people who aren't from here left here because of
the fraud taking place, comes as a stunning shock to
hear there could be some six billion dollars worth of
fraud perpetuated under Governor Tim Walls's watch. All right, let's
keep with the theme here for just a moment, because
I'm happy to see that we're getting this attention. Walls
is in big, big trouble. We're gonna get into that.
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We have a story to share a little bit later on,
because he's siding with these investigations into fraud here in Minnesota.
But make no mistake, he does not want to be
doing that. Governor Tim Walls is not happy right now.
The Trump administration has put him in a really tough
spot because Walls is not in a position to say, no,
I don't want anybody's help in investigating our fraud when
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he's been very vocal saying I'll take all the help
we can get because one of the excuses that Walls
has been presenting is that we don't have enough manpower
here to go and deal with all of it, which
is nothing but.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Words.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I can't say on the radio, bogus. We'll go with bogus.
We'll go with that.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Be word, we'll go with We'll go with bogus.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
During that cabinet meeting yesterday, Trump did not hold back
on his thoughts of the current situation relating to immigration
and fraud here in Minnesota, at one point saying this.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
AMI's ripped off that state for.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Billions of dollars billions every year, billions of dollars. And
they contribute nothing. The welfare is like eighty eight percent.
They contribute nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I don't want them in our country.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I'll be honest with you, Okay, So we would say, oh,
that's not politically correct.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I don't want them in our country. Their country is
no good for a reason. Their country stakes, and we
don't want them in our country. I can say that
about other countries too. I can say that about other
countries too.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
We don't want them to help.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
We got to we have to rebuild our country. You know,
our country is at a tipping point. We could go bad.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
We're at a tipping point. I don't know if people.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Mind me saying that, but I'm saying that we could
go one way or the other, and we're going to
go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage
into our country. Elan Omar is garbage. She's garbage, Her
friends are garbage.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
These are people that work.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
These aren't people that say, let's go, come on, let's
make this place great. These are people that do nothing
but complain. They complain, and from where they came from
they got nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You know, they came.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
From paradise, and they said, this isn't paradise. But when
they come from hell and they complain and do nothing,
but bitch, we don't want them in our country. Let
them go back to where they came from and fix it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
The level of honesty that President Donald Trump spoke, regardless
of whether or not you agree or disagree, I expect
that those comments are more than likely and going to
become a point of contention heading into the day. Those
were said yesterday, and you got to give Democrats time
to send out their orders of how they want to
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frame their arguments against Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Be that is in May. Whether you agree or disagree, that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Level of honesty coming from the President is elevating the
conversation of what we're faced with here in Minnesota. It's
giving many individuals the confidence to speak out frankly and
factually about these issues in the face of racist accusations.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It is not easy. A lot of people forget this.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's not easy when people go and label you horrible things.
Certainly not easy for an average individual just online or
talking amongst friends. It's not really even easy for say,
your average representative orb senator here in the state that
hasn't weighed in to these particular issues and been called
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these things before. If you're not accustomed to it, it
can be something's difficult to go and deal with, and
it can force you into a position where you hold
back of speaking authentically and honestly about an issue and
in no way, shape or form racist, but just the
fear that you have of being labeled that. And when
Trump goes and speaks frankly like that, it provides the
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opportunity for other individuals to step up and do the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And for that, I'm appreciative of his comments.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
I'm curious why you're at all surprised about Old Haara yesterday,
being that it wasn't very long ago that he did
a hosted video saying that he couldn't have been referring
to East Affort and Dass criminals.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, let's back up here. First off, it wasn't a
hostage video. I understand what your point was, but let's
get into what he actually did. So the police chief,
Brian O'Hara, came out a couple weeks back, and he
specifically said, frankly and factually that the crime that was
being perpetuated in certain parts of Minneapolis was being done
by kids from East Africa coming in on there in
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their parents high end automobiles and causing all of what
was taking place, basically pointing out that this wasn't happening
within individuals from individuals living in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
He was being very specific. Now, the video that you're.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Referring to, he stopped short of an apology, apart from
saying that I'm sorry if you got offended by what
I said. So, yeah, it was an apology. I framed
it as such on the show, But it wasn't like
he pulled back. He didn't take back what he said
in that moment. He didn't say I was wrong. It
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is not kids from East Africa doing this. He basically
just said I'm sorry if you got offended over this.
What's really funny about that, though, before I make a
larger point, what's really funny about this is that now
you see all these individuals who are calling out the
fraud being majority of some all who are perpetuating it,
who are being called racist, and yet you had the
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police chief that was doing the same thing a couple
of weeks ago. To your initial point, why are you
at all surprised? It's not a matter of being surprised.
I'm not surprised doing that thing with my fingers over it,
But I'm not going to ignore it either, because it's
not right.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It's wrong, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So doesn't surprise me that the police chief comes out
and sides with individuals here who are breaking the law.
He's a Democrat. But just because you expect it doesn't
mean you don't call it out. It doesn't mean you
don't go and point to how ridiculous it is.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
So it's not a lack of being surprised, Like, why
are you surprised? I get that all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I just want to clarify it would be to our
detriment to not give off the vibe that we're surprised
to sit back go well, you know, that's what gets
us in trouble in the first place. That's just how
people are. That's just how Walls is. That's how Walls
wants you to think. I'm just a knucklehead. Sometimes I
say stupid things. We should not sit back and go
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I'm not surprised at all by this and not make
a big deal. No, you should make a big deal
about it, because just because it might be commonplace for
a person to act this way doesn't mean you don't
draw attention to how ridiculous it is.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Kind of what I get paid to do.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
So all right, coming up, Representative Tom Emmer will be
joining us after we talk to Tom. Governor Tim Walls
welcomes the federal probe into the fraud allegations. You commit fraud,
you're going to prison. Acting like a tough guy. He
doesn't want to, but this is the position that Trump
has forced him into, and we'll get into it after
we talk with Tom Emmer next here on Twin City's
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News Talk Am eleven thirty and one O three five FM.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
They have what's called a Trump derangement problem.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Have you heard about that problem?
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Twesday's News Talk AM eleven thirty one oh three five
FM from the six y five to one Carpet plus
Next Day Install Studios. My name is John Justice. I
don't want to waste a moment, Representative Tom Emmer. I
suppose Tom, we can really just do a choose your
own Minnesota adventure topic as we invite you on the
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show this morning, is there any particular thing that you
would like to start off because we have so many
items to choose from as Minnesota dominates the national headlines
right now.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Good morning, Yeah, it dominates it for the wrong reason. Yep,
Good morning, John. Look, I am so grateful for President
Donald J. Trump. I thank you, by the way, anybody
listening in for you, John, I did not encourage him
to go at this fraud. I don't know where it
came from, but when he did it, I let him
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know one thank you from all of Minnesota. We've been
trying to sound the alarm on this fraud for three years, John,
three years we could not get anyone in Minnesota like
focus on the fraud that's been rampant under Tim Walls,
A confident what phony administration. It wasn't until President Trump
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a couple of weeks ago decided he was going to
tweet out or truth out on a Friday night. You're
being they're stealing you blind in Minnesota, and since then,
man as it picked up. I mean, think about it.
Joe Thompson, former acting US attorney, said that the fraud
under the under the Walls administration takes your breath away.
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It's over a billion dollars and it's they're still counting. John.
It's not just excuse me, it's not just the the
feeding our future, the largest pandemic fraud case in the
country two hundred and fifty million bucks. It's the housing fraud.
It's the autism fraud. It's the medicaid fraud, it's the
daycare fraud. I mean, it just keeps going on and on. Now.
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The Secretary of Transportation is looking into it because they've
issued all of these, like in the thousands licenses to illegals.
A small business administrator, Kelly Loeffler is looking in the Minnesota,
and the biggest one was Treasury Secretary a couple of
days ago Scott bessen said, he is going to be
investigating his office is going to be investigating the allegations
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that this money, a lot of the fraudulent money that
was literally we're not attacking the Somali community, as you know, John,
it's not racist to call out criminal activity. And darn
near all of these people who have been charged come
from the Somali community, and they were shipping money back
to Somalia. By the way, Al Chabab controls Somalia, a
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known terrorist group. Scott bessons, the Treasury Secretary is going
to investigate how much of this money and we know
it's already millions, but how much actually went into the
hands of Al Shabab. This is taxpayer money from the
state of Minnesota, and Tim Walls and Keith Ellison have
not only ignored it, allegedly, according to whistleblowers, allegedly, they
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not only ignored it, they retaliated against Minnesota employees who
tried to warn them about it. So there's a lot
more to come on this, John, and it's the wrong guy.
It's the wrong story for Minnesota. But this is why
Tim Walls his career at politics should be over.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Well, the LID on the jar is off. I mean
there's worms. There's worms everywhere right now.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean everything is out, is out in the open,
and even the media can't escape it.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
To your point of Walls, I know a lot of
people a couple of weeks back, in the wake of
that City.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Journal article and taxpayer dollars going to fund terrorism, when
I called for Walls to resign, you know, we're like, Oh,
he's never going to resign, that's crazy, and he'll still
be the nominee. I'm not so I listen. I wasn't
so sure then. I'm certainly not so sure. Now do
you see Walls continuing to survive this, I mean I
don't see.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I think it's greater.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Than fifty to fifty right now that he is not
the nominee for Democrats for governor next year.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I agree with you. I don't think you ever should
have run in the first place. I don't think his
party likes him. I mean, he was an embarrassment to
not just Minnesota. On the national stage, he was an
embarrassment to the Democrat Party. He and Kamala Harris were pathetic.
And you know, when you get caught on national TV
John lying about something as dumb as when you were
(17:46):
at Tienaman Square, Right. He gets caught a national TV
in a flat out lie, and his response is, well,
you know, I grew up in a small town and
sometimes I'm a bit of a knucklehead. It was over
right there right now. Now we've got a bigger issue
going on. I'm not so worried about whether he'll be
the candidate in Minnesota as I am about the fact
(18:07):
that this guy literally may have, may have, may may
be involved in criminal activity. He may be complicit in
criminal activity. If what these Minnesota employees who are claiming
they they warned Tim Walls about the fraud they told
him about the fraud that was going out of his administration.
(18:29):
If that's true, John, and if it's also true that
then he not only refused to accept their their advice,
but he retaliated against him. John, That side almost rises
to the level of a criminal act. And we're gonna
We're gonna have to see where this goes. But Kim
Walls should not be running for aug as Kim Walls
(18:51):
should not be running anything. I mean, I don't know
that I trust him to drive my kids bus.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
One last question for you talking with Representative Tom Emmer
so last week you along with a Congresswoman Fishbock, we
had Finstad and we had Stobber. I know that you
all sent a letter to US Attorney David Rosen to
open an investigation into what you mentioned of taxpayer dollars
going to potentially fund terrorism. We did have the announcement
(19:20):
from Scott Descent earlier this week from the Treasury Department
saying they were looking into it. Are you still looking
to have Rosen open an investigation as well? Or is
what the Treasury Secretary said enough already in terms of
investigating those taxpayer dollars going out of the country.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah. No, Minnesota and the US Attorney in Minnesota, Dan Rosen,
absolutely should be investigating this. My understanding is he is okay.
I'm sure that he's sharing his information with the with
the Treasury Secretary Scott Besson in his office. But John,
(19:59):
it's not just Dan Rosen. Scott Besson and the Treasury
are investigating this. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy and his team
are investigating Minnesota. I said it earlier. Small Business Administrator
Kelly Loeffler is investigating Minnesota. Look Pam Bondi, the attorney general.
(20:20):
She's trying to get information about voting records in Minnesota
that they won't provide. How deep does this corruption go? John,
How deep does it go? And how high is the responsibility?
Does it go all the way to the governor's office?
I'm telling you, if it does, he should not only
be gone, he should be prosecuting. That's literally where we're at.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Tell I'm going to go a little bit long here.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Let me add one more, let me ask one more thing,
because it it just came to mind. You've obviously been
involved in Minnesota politics for a long long time.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And you know, in the now going on my tenth
year here.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
When I first started, you know, we had some conversations
around the daycare fraud that was going on. Obviously, it's
nowhere near what we're dealing with with now.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'm just curious to get your perspective of.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Where the state is now currently as opposed to earlier
in your you know, time in politics here in Minnesota.
I'm just you know, I'm curious to get your instinctive
reaction to a you know, then versus versus now of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Minnesota, California, and New York are great examples. And by
the way, it's not just there. You can go to Portland,
you can go to Seattle, you can you can find
in Denver. Places that are run by these Democrats for
the last decade are pathetic. John, Minnesota is like a
Petri dish that shows you what happens with one party
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rule when they control all the different facets of government,
whether it's the Secretary of State controlling all the voting stuff,
whether it's the governor controlling the state patrol, the min
dot all the I mean, it shows you when you
put incompetent people in charge, and by the way, not
only incompetent, but self centered and self directed people that
(22:08):
are purely political, the result is frankly tragic in places
like Minnesota. What I've seen over the last decade. And
you know, I really appreciate John. You reminded me that
I've gotten a lot older, and we all have that.
But I mean, I remember when I first got elected
(22:28):
to the Minnesota Legislature with someone named Melissa Hortman. We
completely disagreed right on policy issues, but we actually could
debate it. Melissa was a decent human being that despite
our differences, we could still, you know, be kind to
each other in the hallway, and you know she was
(22:49):
kind to my daughter. It just we have lost that, John.
That's the biggest change is now these people are not
happy with anything we try to. You know, we've been
trying to talk to the governor's office, We've been trying
to talk to others in Minnesota about the problems that
have been occurring. This should not be a Republican Democrats.
(23:13):
This should be common sense tells us this is wrong.
We need to fix it. Regardless of our politics, we
need to fix it. And that's the biggest thing that's changed.
Every single time you raise an issue that needs to
get resolved that defies common sense that it's happening, it
turns into what us and them arguing. And that's the
(23:34):
thing that's changed more than anything else. And quite frankly,
I look forward to the day when we start to
come back together and realize, at the end of the day,
we're all Americans. We're fortunate to live in the greatest
free country on the face of the planet. We can
have our disagreements, but we need to be able to
live together peacefully and happily. And that's the thing that's missing.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, one thing that hasn't change, and I'm not I'm
not going to side with the global warming alarmist.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
The one thing that hasn't changed is in Minnesota weather.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
We have em or weather coming up later on this week,
currently dealing with a bit of that right now.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
So I'm sure you're pleased.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
But Representative Tom emmeras always, thank you for the time
this morning. I look forward to talking with you again
next week.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Thank John. Thanks thanks all.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Right, got a lot of talk backs rolling in, including
this one.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
We'll get some more of them coming up in just
a moment.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Good morning, John. This is Frank, first time caller, Frank Say.
I was wondering if you have heard about the new
Minnesota program, the Paid Family Leave Act or whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yes, I have.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
That's coming in January one, Yes it is, which is
going to hope Well, I hope it doesn't drive all
the businesses out, but it has that potential, Yes, it does.
Just curious if you're familiar with it.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Maybe yes I am.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And as a matter of fact, we're going to talk
about this a bit coming up in just a moment.
Governor Tim Walls in the middle of changing the subject
from fraud did give an update on the Minnesota paid
leave program. He wants to make sure everybody knows it's
gonna be fine. Guys, everything's gonna be fine. Don't believe
a word that he is saying. I'll share with you
the audio. We'll get back to more of your talkbacks
from the iHeartRadio app. Brought to you by Lyndahl Realty.
(25:18):
Next on Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty and
one oh three five FM. I'm gonna dive into paid
family leave here in just a moment. A lot of
comments have rolled in on the iHeart Radio app that
I want to get to.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
We have multiple.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Audio clips to share of Governor Tim Walls not just
talking about paid family leave, but also his desire welcoming
a federal probe into fraud allegations. I know he doesn't
want to do that, so we're going to get into that. Okay,
don't don't worry. I don't want to get there though,
because I know there's gonna be a lot more comments.
I want to I want to tackle a talk back
(26:00):
that role. Then, just really quick, let's go here to
the iHeartRadio app. Talkbacks are brought to you by Lyndahl
Realty here on Twin Cities News Talk as we continue
our show from the sixty five to one carpet plus
next day install studios.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Yeah, good morning, good show as always. Yeah, listening to
emmor talk about it should should, should this? This, this,
nothing's going to change, nothing's going to happen, and every
judge in Minnesota is just laughing at him.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Nothing's going to happen. I hate to tell you it's
all on purpose.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Okay, So I refuse to adopt that attitude. I don't
want to push too hard back against the talkbacker. They're
a friend of the show that they have comments all
the time, and I appreciate it. I would ask. I
would ask the question though, like did you vote in
the last election. If you did, then why are you
adopting that mentality? Like if you're of the opinion that
(26:54):
individuals or this is nothing's going to change, then why bother?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I would also ask why do you listen to the show?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I mean, I suppose it's still entertaining even if you
don't think the things are going to change. But if
you're still getting involved in politics and yet that's the
attitude that you have, if you were my friend, let's
consider ourselves friends.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I would say, well, maybe drop that attitude because you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
You know, you're going to discourage other individuals from going
and getting involved. So again, I just refuse to adopt
that attitude. Things haven't changed a lot of things. A
lot of times things do stay the same. But we
should never give up the fight or just resign ourselves
(27:40):
to oh, it's never going to change, so not going
to do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Just just curious.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
If you voted in the election, then why do you
still have that attitude.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Let's go here.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
Morning, John, Alex Pauline com members right have lost our
ability to talk to each other. I just wish we
would call out why we have lost our ability to
talk to each other. It hasn't been Conservatives and Republicans.
We have been shut down because the Liberals, the Democrats,
whatever you want to call them, you don't want to
have the conversation. And that should be pointed out. We
(28:17):
haven't lost it. They don't want to talk to us,
that's exact.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I reiterated this when I was on Will Kain's show yesterday.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Humble Bragg, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So there's no point in debating with Democrats right now,
right now, especially here in Minnesota, is the time to
take some victory lapse from the perspective that what those
congressional or excuse me, what those Republicans in our legislature
(28:51):
said during the time of the Trifecta was absolutely correct
on almost every single front relating to the programs that
were being put forward without debate, when the calls of
concern were ignored that have all exploded in terms of
initial costs that are now filled with fraud. This is
(29:14):
where you need to point out We've been saying this
all along. I'm not debating with Walls, I'm not debating
with Democrat, with dflers in the legislature, we told you
you were wrong. We're being proven right that you were wrong.
And this is why they need to be voted out
of office heading into next year, because the opportunity right
(29:35):
now is as.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Big as it's ever been.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
We've never had this level of scrutiny on what we
have been faced with here in Minnesota for years than
we do right now at this very moment at seven
forty seven am on Wednesday, December third, and this needs
to carry over into next year and there's going to more.
(30:02):
This is just the tip of the iceberg. It is
not going to be getting any better. It is only
going to get worse for Democrats.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
The reason this the tip of the iceberg is for
one thing, the state of Minnesota still has refused to
the Walls administration has refused to provide the SNAP numbers,
you know, with privacy concerns and all other kind of
b yes reasons, but you know, if there's this level
of fraud in other programs Medicaid and Feed the Future
and all these other things, you know, the SNAP is
(30:37):
way out of control in this state.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
So just wait till that comes out.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Another thing, Yeah, well, and as well paid family leave,
let's go there from Channel five. Beginning today, any Minnesota
parent who welcome the child in this year can apply
for leave to be used in twenty twenty six. DEED
hopes that also reduces demand on January first, Why are
(31:03):
they hoping it reduces demand? I thought this was all
going to be fine. Why would DEED be worried about
demand on this program if everything's going to be hunky dory.
And this is why Walls is currently out to doing
a tour trying to explain to everybody, Hey, guys, it's
all going to be great now.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
This also, of.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Course, means that additional payroll tax to help pay for
the program zero point eighty eight percent each pay period,
although at least half must be played by paid for
by employers. Here's what Walls had to say briefly, as
he continues to try to reassure individuals that listen, pay
family leave is going to be fine.
Speaker 11 (31:38):
And one of the things is that has been missing
in America is what happens if you have a child,
how do you take time away and how do you
bond with that child? Which we know all the research
shows how big a difference that makes, or what happens
if you've got a family member that's sick.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
We stop here really quick. Could we not have women
take time off? I'm pretty sure there's this thing called
maternity leave. Would you work that you can go and
take time off. It's not like suddenly paid family medical
leave is now opening up the door and women were
forced to give birth to an immediately go back to
(32:14):
work again within a matter of days.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
It's such a false argument.
Speaker 11 (32:20):
My family's going through that right now with a mother
in law, or what happens if you yourself have an
illness and have to be either through treatments or hospitalized.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
The choice in the past was.
Speaker 11 (32:33):
Lose your job or go broke, or care for yourself
or as we were just saying, if you're lucky enough
to have family support and people who do that, it's
not the way things should be done. And I continue
to say this. The United States is about one of
three or four countries it doesn't have some type of
program like this. Now we join the states that are
going to implement a paid family medical leap PA.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
It's also bogus. When I went out in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Right before my dear friend Drew's passing, was recovering in
the hospital when that happened. But that was completely unexpected,
not Drew, but both things were my having to go
through a third open heart surgery, and of course Withdrew
passing and passing away, completely unexpected.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
And you know what, I was able to take time off.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's a long recovery from open heart Surgery's almost a month.
We didn't have paid family leave. I really didn't have
anything special relating to extra abilion to take time off. No,
I was able to take time off. I was still
able to get paid through what already existed within the
(33:48):
framework of my job and my health care benefits. Now, granted,
I wouldn't have been able to take twenty weeks off,
but nobody should be taking twenty weeks off.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Wall says, though, you can rest assured the state's been
running beta tests for more than a month and tried
to learn from the issues of the old troubled Minnesota
Licensing and a Registration system MINLARS. The program has been built,
says Walls, by some of the best folks in the
country to do this. The governor assured media members, well,
who built MINLARS.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I mean, if the.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
New program is being built by some of the best
folks in the country, then who the heck did you
hire originally for mind lars. I'm gonna guess that if
I were to go back and look, you could probably
find quotes from Walls prior to MINLARS being implemented, saying
this is being built by the best, brightest coders in
the country.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 12 (34:56):
I own a small, very small cabinet shopper Cities. It's
just me, but I've been seriously considering adding some employees
because of my workload. But I got to tell you,
I'm reconsidering that with this paid medical family leave thing
that's coming to effect here the first of the year,
because I just don't see how I can afford it.
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Margins just aren't there.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Thanks Well's went on in this piece from Channel five
railing against Republicans for not supporting the program and claiming
it'll be dal litle with fraud. How disrespectful to people
to assume all Minnesotans are scamming. Nobody is doing that,
and that's not what the criticism is. The criticism is
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what I just shared with you. The criticism is for
individuals like me that aren't going to take twenty weeks off,
that don't really necessarily have a job that's really conducive
to taking lots of time off. That is completely counter
to what I do in this position job that I chose.
But guess what, I'm going to be forced to lose
(36:04):
money to pay for other individuals to go and take
more time off than they need.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's infuriating.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
There is no disrespect in assuming because people aren't assuming
that all Minnesotas are scamming.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
But what a ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Notion by our knucklehead hack governor to sit back and say, oh,
it's just disrespectful to talk about Minnesota scamming when we're
sitting on billions of dollars worth of fraud that has
been perpetuated under his watch that he didn't give a
rip about until it ended up landing in the headlines
(36:39):
here in Minnesota yesterday. During that interview that I mentioned,
I was asked, how in the world did all of
this happen? I mean, this has been going on for
as long as you say it's been going on. How
did this not erupt into some major scandal? The point
being made by will Caine was typically you would see
individuals resign for less than this, and I go, you're right,
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but Minnesota isn't typical because our media here sucks. They
may cover the fraud briefly and then they let it go.
They ignore all the cries from individuals that are concerned,
saying that Walls needs to resign because he is the
individual at the top. The buck is supposed to stop
with him. He said as much, but the media gave
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him a free pass, so there was never enough controversy
to erupt to demand an outcry of individuals that would
go and essentially impact him electorally to get him to respond.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
That is changing right now.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
With the amount of coverage that we see of the
lists that I started the show off with this morning
of the new I mean, the investigations into Minnesota right
now at the federal level.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Like, there's too many to mention. Let's get back to
some of your thoughts.
Speaker 13 (37:57):
Oh, that paid family leave, that thing is going to
be nasty because they've already got FMLA that people get
on it for the let's just say, weakest and runniest
of reasons, and they abuse the living snot out of it.
You throw this in there, there are so many people
going to abuse the crap out of that. It's going
to bankrupt companies.
Speaker 14 (38:20):
John, This family paid leave is going to be great.
The wife and I retired, we're thinking about going back
to work so we can get about a month or
two off. This is going to be great. Employees are
going to be just banging at the doors of business
to get their free time off us be tired. People
are going to be hitting back to the workforce. No
businesses will go broke. There is that, But this is going.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
To be great, all right, I have a shocking number
of talkbacks that have rolled into the iHeartRadio apples are
brought to you by Lyndall Realty. So I'm gonna spend
a few minutes here working through your comments to share
on the show. Governor Tim Walls welcomes to federal probe
and defraud allegations while the Twin Cities embraces for ICE
(39:03):
agents to descend as soon as this week. The freak
out has begun and the headlines being written over this
Twin Cities on alert after threat of ICE enforcement against
Somali community. That's the headline from the Star Tribune. There's
another way to do that headline that's actually more accurate.
(39:23):
It should be more like Twin Cities on ice watch
as federal law enforcement plans to crack down on immigration lawbreakers.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Like that's an accurate headline.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
What the Star Tribune just said, Twin Cities on alert
after a threat of ICE enforcement against Somali community.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
That's propaganda.
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