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November 21, 2025 36 mins
Freedom Friday rolls on as Jon is joined in studio by MN Rep Max Rymer, Grace Keating, and AK Kamara. The group offers their expanded opinions on a bombshell story of fraud in MN.

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
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She hadn't as far as I've known.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
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follow her on Facebook and that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
I am shocked.

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Speaker 5 (00:39):
Yeah?

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I say, hey, let me know when when she goes
into labor. Welcome to our three here on Twin Cities
News Talk. We do have representative Max Rimmer in the morning,
Grace Keating from American Experiment. Good morning again, give to
the Give to the Max.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yesterday, not give to Max.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Day went very That's a separate holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
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Na's getting lots of compliments today. Yes, it went very
well for us an American Experiment.

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That record setting goal. I had. I gotta, I have to,
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Speaker 2 (02:00):
I had somebody that ended up trying to go and
explain why they asked you if you had breakfast earlier.
But now I've lost it, so I know I've wasted
too much time. We'll never know, well, we'll never know,
you know. I'm not sure what's going to happen. First,
Sam having her baby or ak Kamara joining us in
the studio.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Poor Ak, I know he's been stuck in traffic.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
My heart is with you.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
He should be here shortly.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
He'll be here for just a random comment at eight
forty five and get on out of here.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
If you've missed it.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I kicked off the show this morning calling for Governor
Tim Walls to resign. Enough's enough to have an expectation
that that is going to happen. No, I don't it should.
An irrational saying world where you have elected officials that
actually respect the job that they do enough to where
they will step down if wrongdoing under their watch has occurred.

(02:51):
Walls would have resigned a long time ago. But with
this recent story from The City Journal, largest funder of
Al Shabab is the Minnesota taxpayer fraud taking care in
the autism centers, that money funneling out of Minnesota to
the terrorist organization. On top of what we've seen with
the fraud across the board. His lies that he's consistently told,

(03:14):
including the most recent one that we talked about on
the show. I know that you and you guys over
at the center of the American experiment with Catherine and Grace,
you guys talked about the universal pre k earlier this
week on the podcast is as well, on top of
the fact that he's failed his own party and not
ever calling a special session on gun control. I hope

(03:34):
enough people will join me in calling for Governor Tim
Walls to resign in hopes that it will get enough
attention to where Walls has to go and answer for
these things has to go and address what the rest
of the media is in covering, like the City Journal
story that we're about to get into. Look, I'm an
agreement everyone should go out on whatever social platform they're
on and call for.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
The resignation at Tim Walls.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
But what happens when we just give banned from the platforms?

Speaker 8 (04:03):
Currently I'm banned from Reddit and.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Blue skuy, not that I've read to pare that much,
but deep end me territory. So we should look into
section two thirty. So I listen.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I can't speak to whatever it is you're saying that
getting you banned on platforms.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I will say that I say stuff all.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
The time on social media here, on on Facebook, on
on x on Instagram, on TikTok, and I have yet
to be a band from anything, So you can go
and call for these things to happen without getting banned.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Good for him for trying Blue Sky and getting banned
from it. That's uh, You've made be proud.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I have a Thread's account too, but I never go
on there and yeah never, never, never go on there
and use it.

Speaker 8 (04:43):
Smark from new Brighton. No, we don't want Walls to resign.
We want him to twist in the wind in disgrace
for as long as possible. If he resigns, he's off
the hook.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Let me stop here because I can't play the rest
of his talk back. It's not about him resigning. It's
about people calling for him to resign and him having
to go and answer for it.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Let's get into this, by the way.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
So the story from the City Journal Minnesota is drowning
and fraud. In many cases, the fraud has allegedly been
perpetuated by members of the Minnesota sizable Somali community. Federal
counter terrorism sources confirmed that millions of dollars in stolen
funds have been sent back to Somalia. A certain terrorist

(05:26):
expert whom I'm close friends with is completely unsurprised by this,
while he still says it's shocking He's not surprised this
is been taking place. He says, wherein they ultimately landed
in the hands of a terror group al Shabab, as
one that confidential source put it, the largest funder of
al Shabab is the Minnesota taxpay Just what an incredible

(05:50):
statement that in and of itself is. And I mentioned
this earlier, I'll mention it again. Now you just break
it down. We had a what was the surplus? I
always get the number sixteen. Oh, it was about seventeen billion,
seventeen million dollars. Seventeen billion dollars surplus. That's money over
what the state was supposed to take from all of us.
Then we had the trifecta. Well, and with that surplus,

(06:11):
we only got what two hundred and fifty two hundred
and sixty bucks back?

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Right?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Isn't that what the rebate was on?

Speaker 7 (06:16):
That?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Was it less than that?

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I did I did you guys get a check? I
didn't get a check.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Do we get money back on that?

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Do we never get money back? I remember?

Speaker 9 (06:23):
Really?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I think the proposal was two hundred and sixty bucks.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, I want to say that we get let's just
assume that we did. I don't even remember now with
soul Paltry, so they don't give us the majority of
the money back, which should have happened. Walls.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
It said that we were going to get thousands of
dollars back and he completely reneged on.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
That, so that money instead goes to help fund these
different various programs that have now all been found fraudulent
created by Democrats during the time of the trifecta, which
means that that money, now that they went asking for
your tax dollars has specifically gone to fund terror operations,
you know, by one of the worst terror groups on

(06:59):
the LED in al Shababa. I mean, this should be
headline news across the board and the majority of the
media outlets, apart from say you're off the news or
your American experiment. Nobody's at least the time when I
was doing my prep this morning, we're not running with this.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
We're not running with this story.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
And the real tragedy of it when you look at
what the role of blocking and tackling in government is is.
I've said it before on this show and I'll say
it again. I have been on the bonding committee in
the Minnesota House and you see all of these water
systems that are failing. I have an issue in my
own district in the city of Wyoming where there is
a sewer line that's a faulty. And these are things

(07:37):
that the State of Minnesota should have money for, and
instead what we did was we had all these well
to do programs administered by nonprofits with no accountability. So
the real tragedy in all of this beyond our money
going to terrorist groups, which I can't believe we're even
debating whether or not that is that's kosher. But the

(08:01):
real tragedy is that real things are happening in Minnesota
that would require funding and fixing, and those things are
not being paid attention to because we're too busy giving
two plus billion dollars away in fraud.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
So here's what we're going to do. I want to
give you a little bit more of the story. We're
going to continue to work through it. I want to
make sure we stay on time today and I don't
get completely behind. I will say good morning to A. K. Kamara,
who finally made it in I'm here traffic. I think
it's a conspiracy theory. I think the other cars were
listening to the show. I think they were all foes.
I think they saw you, they knew who you were,
and they all slowed down in front of you to
keep you from arriving here.

Speaker 10 (08:34):
That's exactly what happened, because they knew that I'm with
on Time and they wanted to make me off time.
City Jersey had somebody who made that Oh I know,
I heard and shout out. I don't own on Time.
I know that the way the precarious State portrayed it.
I'm actually an independent courier contractor with on Time. If
I owned on Time, I would still come into the show,

(08:57):
but I would always bring gift baskets because I'd be
making a.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Ton of cash. I am not. I'm working class.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
From the City Journal, they say, our investigation shows what
happens when a tribal mindset meets a bleeding heart bureaucracy,
When imported clan loyalties collide with political class too timid
to offend, and when accusations of racism are cynically deployed

(09:25):
to shield criminal behavior, the predictable result is graft, with
taxpayers left to foot the bill.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
We're going to talk more about this coming up.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
We'll get to your talkbacks from the iHeartRadio app brought
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Speaker 10 (09:56):
Yeah, Kurt from Stowater, we earned AK pizza delivery service.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
All right, not your fault. Ak, I'm glad you made
it here.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
I'm glad I made it here to you, brother.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Businessman, RNC committee man, Ak Kamar. We have Grace Keating.
You can listen to Grace and Catherine Johnson the American
Experiment podcast every single Tuesday. Thank you for coming in
this morning, Grace, thanks for having me. John Representative Max Rymer.
Good to see you almost didn't recognize him. It's been
so long.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Oh, glad to be.

Speaker 10 (10:30):
Can I just say a real quick shout out to
both both Grace and Catherine. You guys have made it
because Wall Street Apes, which is an X account that
is notorious for ripping off content and not attributing ripped
off the content.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
So congratulations, you've made it. On Next you did it.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Actually watched that clip this morning and I was like,
oh hey.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Look at that, look at that the whole side thing.

Speaker 10 (10:53):
Yeah, just tag me man, I don't care if you
rip my content, just tag me.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
The largest funder of Al Shabab is the Minnesota taxpayer.
A City journal piece and again these allegations, this is
not just one source talking about These are second and
third party, independent sources of each other, all confirming the
same thing. They go on in this piece to say,
if you were to design a welfare program to facilitate fraud,

(11:20):
it would probably look a lot like Minnesota's Medicate House
Stabilization Services Program. The HSS program, the first of miss
kind of the country, was launched with a noble goal
helped seniors, addicts, and disabled mentally ill secure housing. It
was designed with low barriers to entry minimal requirements for reimbursement. Nonetheless,

(11:40):
before the program went live in twenty twenty, officials pegged
at the annual estimated price tag at two point six million.
Then the costs spiraled out of control in twenty twenty one,
twenty one million in claims. The following years, the annual
costs has shot up forty two million, seventy four million,
one hundred and four million. During the first six months
of twenty twenty five, the payouts hold sixty one million.

(12:02):
They then get into feeding our future, and we'll talk
a little bit about this before they end up diving
back into and we'll get into the story here what
they've learned, and that is that money, through the fraud
taking place in the autism centers, is being funneled out
of the country. That's your tax payer dollars to terrorist organizations,
specifically Al Shabab. Let's go to the talkbacks before we

(12:24):
get to more comments from our guests this morning on
a Freedom Friday here on Twin Cities News Talk.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Morning, John.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
I'm just wondering, given all this money that's going to
terrorist groups that from my taxes, if I could at
least have an option to pick or even ranked twice
which terrorist organizations I want first, second, and third?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Do you think we should we should add it to
we should add it to the state taxes. Yeah, so
we can list off various terrorist organizations. So we have
Al Shabab on the list, right, so we can do
get at Hamas Okay, okay, al Qaida yep isis anybody
got any other ones? When I add to the list

(13:03):
along with al Shabab, let's.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Throw on Antifa since they were recent.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Okay, Antifa on there anybody in the other terrorist organizations
we want to we want to add I think you
mentioned one during the break, Okay, we can hold that one.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Oh I got one.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
I got one bike riders.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I think that would be stretching it a little, a
little tiny bit, although I'm sure there are some talkbackers
that would absolutely agree with you.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I think that might be stretching it a little bit.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
So you have all of these different terrorist organizations, and
then you can rank choice which ones you want your
tax Okay, do you want to do? You want to
reverse it where the rank choice is. I definitely don't
want my money going to ISIS, but if it ends
up going to cyclists, okay, I'd be okay with that. Yeah,
I want to reverse reverse, reverse rank choice.

Speaker 10 (13:53):
Because we're talking about, like, you know, having to eat
the poop sandwich anyways, So yeah, I mean, let's eat
the least discussing poop sandwich.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
So I think if we're gonna rank choice where which
terrorist organization gets your tax dollars, it needs to be
least popular.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
First, Yeah, first, and also goes rather not go here.

Speaker 10 (14:14):
I'd also go step further and like there is a
silver lining with the money going to al Shabab is
that most of the terrorism is committed over in Sudan
and Kenya, and most of the people that they kill
are the indigenous people there. There's only been like, from
from my understanding of like American troops, there's only been
like twelve or so, so they haven't killed that many Americans.

(14:38):
They're mostly just killing their own people, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, Okay, So should I not be calling for Walls
to resign?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Should we wait until more.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Americans are killed?

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (14:48):
Yeah, well there's that too, right, I mean, yeah, no,
walls should resign.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
I think that it's absurd.

Speaker 10 (14:55):
And what's crazy is that as we've had these conversations
like over the last what year.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Next, our conversations are crazy. They are initially this one
right here? Nice pull there though, Grace. By the way,
I'm going to give a littleredit where credit is to
that was good.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I've been proud to be a minisouta today.

Speaker 10 (15:08):
I've been talking about how this this fraud is intentional, right,
and this story actually goes through and by having it
all broken down. One shout out to Chris Ruffo for
putting this together and giving it a national spotlight.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
But this is how absurd.

Speaker 10 (15:24):
This has been We literally talk about this fraud for
the last two years, like it's part of almost every
single Freedom Friday. There is another aspect to the fraud.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I had another one this morning I haven't even covered.
That's a brand new one from the ICs, from ICs
Medicaid fund at ICs, and.

Speaker 10 (15:40):
So yeah, I mean this level of incompetence to me,
it's criminal. Like I think, again, as I said before,
I think this was by design. Do I think that
they wanted it to go to terrace? No, But that's
the unintended consequences of these massive redistribution of wealth schemes
that I think that Democrats have built into the system.

Speaker 7 (15:59):
All almost feels it almost feels like testing the waters
of Like, Okay, Minnesotans will put up with you know,
two billion dollars of their tax dollars, you know, going
a way to fraud. Can we get them to put
up with that money going to terrorist organizations?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Are they are they going to put up with that?

Speaker 11 (16:15):
Like?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
How far can we push this? How how much are
they going to put up with?

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Well?

Speaker 10 (16:20):
And wasn't it Max just this week that the Fraud
Committee met and basically talking and you guys covered on
your podcast as well, when you talk about the paid
family medical leave, how much of that would go to
fraud and basically justifying like, yeah, we know some of
it's going to go to fraud. So it almost is that, like,
what is the appetite for the level of fraud while
you're quote unquote helping people that you will be tolerant

(16:44):
of and I think you know, two billion I wish
according to some of these whistleblowers from the DHS that
X account, which is awesome, a good follow they're saying
it's close to eight billion dollars.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Which should be our entire deficit.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
And then some.

Speaker 9 (17:00):
Come on, guys, you can't add Antifa to the list.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
They don't exist.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I forgot. I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
All right, We're gonna get into more of this piece
here in uh in just a moment, we have your
talk back of the day on the way. I do
just want to give you this quick uh paragraph from
the story from the City Journal. Our investigation reveals for
the first time that some of this money and we'll
lay out the money that we were talking about, but
specifically was coming from the fraud and the autism centers,
some of this money has been directed to an even

(17:28):
more troubling destination because they lay out the money that
has gone to UH individuals just in some allia, the
fraud that is taking place, the homes of vacations and
things like that. It says an even more troubling destination.
The al Qaeda linked to Islamic terror group al Shabab.
So maybe we need to keep those two together since
al kaye, since they're kind of in the same million.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Years they fly their flags.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I'll ask a David Gartenstein Ross if we should just franchise.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
And as a franchise, they've paid their dues.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
So, according to multiple law enforcement sources Minnesota, some All
they Can Unity has sent untold millions through a network
of what they call a network.

Speaker 12 (18:06):
Of hawalaswala no s on there, justjwala okay, informal clan
based money traders that have wound up in the coffers
of al Shabab.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
We'll get to more of this coming up.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
You talk back of the Day and more with our
guests on a Freedom Friday here on Twin City's News
Talk Am eleven thirty and one on three five FM.

Speaker 13 (18:32):
Good morning you all, Happy Freedom Friday. One of the
things I would like any Democrat voters that are listening
to the show, because there are some you need to
remember that when this money leaves the country as is,
when illegal aliens send money out of the country, that
hurts our economy. That is money that does not stay here.
So it's hurting our economy. So then they wonder why

(18:55):
the Minnesota economy is in the tank right now?

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wow, this is part of reason now. It's a fantastic point.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
And thank you so much for the talkback brought to
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on a Freedom Friday, and in studio with us, we
have Grace Keating from American Experiment to businessmen and RNC

(19:22):
Committeeman Ak Kamara, Representative Max Rymer as well.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Ar Nazi's getting lots of compliments today.

Speaker 10 (19:29):
I know you mentioned Klan a couple of times in
that story, and I was going to say, and I'm
going to say right now, is that max is familiar
with how clans work.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Oh oh go guys, all right, well I think with
that and it's only appropriate.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Hey, with that, let's dive into a rank choice voting terrorists.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
Okay, back to something reasonable.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
We did decide that we can't put because since al
Qaeda and al Shabab are link, they need to be one.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
So you're really looking at ranking al Qaeda, Isis, boka Hera,
anti fun and cyclists.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Is that which?

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Yeah, that's terrorists?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, okay, and you rank it from you know, the
the terrorist organization you want the least amount of your
money going to.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I think i'd probably go with ices. They're pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, so I'd rather have the least amount of my
tax dollar is probably going to ISIS.

Speaker 10 (20:19):
See here's the thing, though, is that really President Trump
decimated ISIS. Al kata Is still around. They've tried to
like normalize themselves. I mean they're basically, you know, helping
the Taliban, you know, run things in Afghanistan.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
My understanding. Yeah, yeah, Hamas they're pretty they're pretty bad.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
And then they're cyclists. What about those guys?

Speaker 10 (20:39):
I mean, listen, if we're talking about direct impacts on
our everyday lives. Cyclists are at the top with their
terrorism of not only do they ride in the street,
and because they do the Philly roll or whatever, they're
not stop at stop signs anymore. And they completely don't care.
Like they'll drive in the lane, driving slower than the
speed limit and.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
They don't care.

Speaker 10 (21:01):
I feel like sometimes they intentionally look behind them see
that there's a car and they drive slow.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I don't agree with I cycle all the time.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
I don't agree with that, but I just want to.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Put that out there briefly. So we forgot one.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Group, the Democrat Socialists of America. I want my money
going to that terrorist organization.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Either have they been labeled terrorist organization? They have by
me in my heart, they have the get in your heart,
in my heart yes.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
And this is your rank choice voting us exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
And I'm the one calling for Governor Jim Walls to resign.
So I just want to know. I hope everybody will
go and join me.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
All right.

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Good with money here.

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to the City Journal article. I want to share this part.
Kaisha Megan, Somali American who'd worked as a fraud investigator
at the Minnesota Attorney General's Office, identified the problem last
year and we're well into the piece. They've gone through

(22:47):
the fraud that we've covered on the show. They've talked
about the former a state Attorney General Thompson, laying out
the fraud that had taken place that we've covered before,
so we're kind of we're getting into now the money
being sent to terrorist groups overseas, wherein she says that
they identified the problem last year, saying we must grapple
with something that is uncomfortable and true. Nearly all the

(23:12):
defendants in the cases that I've listed are from my community,
the Somali community, because prior to this, in the article
they talked about feeding our future and the fraud that
took place there. So again this is a Somali American
fraud investigator saying, like as we've said, the defendants in
these cases are from my community, the Samali community. Perhaps
the most surprising aspect of the Somalia fraud story is

(23:35):
the scale, with total costs running into the billions of
taxpayer dollars, it raises the question what happened to all
that money? The Somali fraud rings have sent huge sums
of remittances or money transfers from Minnesota to Somalia. According
to reports, an estimated forty percent of households in Somalia

(23:56):
get remittances from abroad. In twenty twenty three alone, the
Somalia dysporia sent one point seven billion back, more than
the Somali government's budget for that year. And this is
when they get into the portion of that I shared
a moment ago. The investigation reveals for the first time,

(24:16):
some of the money has been directed to even more
troubling destinations, the al Qaeda linked Islamic terror group Al
Shabad al Shabab. According to Glenn Kerns, a retired Seattle
Police Department detective who spent fourteen years on the Federal
Joint Terrorism Task Force the JTTF, the Somalis ran a
sophisticated money network spanning from Seattle to Minneapolis, and we're

(24:37):
routing significant amounts of cash on commercial flights from Seattle
Airport to the Huala networks and Somalia.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
One of these networks, Kerns discovered.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Sent twenty million abroad in a single year, adding the
amount of money was staggering. Kern's investigation eventually expanded to Minnesota,
where he realized the same thing was. He said, yeah,
I worked on it for five years. We had sources
going to the Houalas to send money. I went down
to Minnesota, I pulled all the records and well blank

(25:11):
words I can't.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Say on the radio.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Oh, oh my gosh, all these Somalis sending money, sending
out money are on DHS benefits.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
How does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
We had good sources tell us this is welfare fraud.
Kerrents determined primarily through human sources, that significant funds were
being sent from America to Al Schabab networks in Somalia.
Whether the money was intended for Al Shabab or not,
kerrent said they were getting a cut. A second former
official who worked on the Minneapolis JTTF confirms the story's

(25:46):
general structure. This former official, who requested to remain anonymous,
worked on two terrorism cases that intersected with Minnesota Somali
community and has studied the flow of funds from Minnesota
to Somalia. A third source, who spoke on a condition
of anonymity, described the close ties between Somali American community
in Minnesota and Islamic terror groups abroad. Ten years ago,

(26:09):
the source was recruited as an independent contractor for a
three letter agency investigation into the Minnesota men who had
joined or attempted to join ISIS.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Which is why I.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Want that I know when I'm going to my money
to go to them as fine as That's why I
mentioned that year a Homeland Security Task Force report found
that Minnesota led the nation. I'm going to back up
on that Homeland Security task Force expert found that Minnesota
led the nation in the number of Americans who had
joined or attempted to join ISIS. Of the fifty eight

(26:40):
Americans who had done so, nearly half.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Came from Minnesota. One more part of this and.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Then we can talk a little bit more about it
and get to your talk back. Scott Johnson, who has
covered these and related stories for years for End of
the Show, attended several of those men's trials reporting on
them for City Journal. He noted that the Minnesota men
gave the outward appearance of American assimilation, including being sophisticated
users of social welfare benefits. The relationship is ongoing in

(27:07):
this third rail conversation. The largest funder of Al Shabab
is the Minnesota taxpayer. The third source set there is
an issue here that is real, and if there is
ever an event that is traceable back to these funds
or to people from this area, then this situation will.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Take on a whole new set of optics. This is
why believable.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
This is why I started off this morning saying that
Governor Tim Wallas needs to resign. Do I have any
expectation that he's going to No, I don't, but I
want a chorus of individuals calling for him to resign
so that he has to go and address an answer
for this happening under his watch. And I'll just wrap
up with how they wrap the piece up. The first
step in solving the problem is acknowledging it by extension.

(27:52):
That means recognizing the problem's true source. So far, Minnesota's
government class and its media establishment.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Had failed to take that basic step.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Minnesotan's will have to confront the uncomfortable but unavoidable reality
members of the Somali community have played a central role
in the massive fraud that is now engulfing the North
Star State. And again, this is the piece coming out
of the City Journal, which is available on their website.
The largest funder of Al Shabab is the Minnesota taxpayer.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yeah, I think so. I actually have a video that
is all cut up.

Speaker 10 (28:22):
I just have to go through and add in the
kind of like the source that I do when I
make my videos. And so I kind of did the
same thing when I broke this down, but then I
also tried to explain that, like, once we acknowledge all
this fraud has occurred, which I think the Minnesota you know,
legacy media has been doing a pretty good job at acknowledging.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
That the fraud are the fraud itself.

Speaker 10 (28:41):
Yeah, sure, but they're just never attaching it to the
Walls administration and to current elected officials that are Democrats.
And that's what you're attempting to do, John, and I
agree that, like this has to be held accountable two
people that are currently in power that set up these systems,
that are responsible for these systems, and there's just no

(29:02):
infens or butts about it. Like based off of just
the story, which we already knew, every single one of
these programs needs to be frozen right now, Yeah, because
we have to stop the flow of this money now.
In the story, obviously they don't necessarily mention the specifics
of the HHS program shutting down and the autism program
shutting down, but it's like all of these programs, every

(29:22):
single program that allows for a private LLC to spring
up and then take government dollars, those programs need to
be put on pause and then they can go back
through and they can vet and say, like what are
you doing and do just a very light proof of
work that you're actually providing services, and it should immediately

(29:43):
stop right now. But I agree Tim Wallas needs to resign.
So does every Minnesota taxpayer get to claim a Ghati
terrorist as a dependent?

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Now?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I should be able to That is a question, just
like a rank choice voting exercise. Let's pick our favorite
Gehati terrorists and figure out who we would claim as
a dependent.

Speaker 10 (30:05):
For ten cents a day, you can sponsor thisty terrorists.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Look at his poor coach man.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
We're gonna end up with commercials where Sarah McLachlan, she'sn't
end up doing commercials.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Oh that's a.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Good idea, but they got to put you know what,
this is what we can do.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Sorry, sorry that stop, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
This is what I'm just.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
This is what we Good morning, John, this is what
I was doing so good this morning.

Speaker 10 (30:32):
This is what we can use Sora for, right we
can or so sorry soon o. And we can create
a Sarah McLachlan. But that has like a like a
Middle Eastern vibe to it.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I got a I got an afternoon project for John Justice.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
This back to something reasonable.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Actually, I think this is probably the most appropriate thing
we could play right now.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Please don't start talking about it again.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
All right, let's go to the iHeartRadio app show. Was
always see woke up this morning?

Speaker 5 (31:02):
I turned on your show. I almost feller who shocked.

Speaker 11 (31:05):
Finally someone is calling out the fraud in the smaller
community that's been going on for months years, And as
I've indicated in the past, I don't believe Tim Walls
was ignorant to it.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
I think he was complicit with it.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Something's got to be done. This is ridiculous. Have a
great day, guys, Yeah, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
And again I hope everybody will join me in calling
for Governor Tim Walls to resign. The expectation isn't that
he will resign. The expectation and hope is that if
enough people begin to say Walls needs to resign why
because of what we're talking about, because of what we're covering,
then he'll have to answer for it. Because right now
the media is going to give him all the cover
in the world over this, over this issue, and we

(31:44):
just kind of cannot let it happen.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
And this is about next year's election.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
I still believe there's a fifty to fifty chance that
he will not be the Democrat nominee. I just don't
know how much baggage he is going to be able
to handle at this point in time.

Speaker 10 (31:56):
Now, maybe I'm going crazy, but have you guys noticed
that Walls has been like weirdly quiet. So obviously that
he was well, but the Ice ray that happened right
in Saint Paul the next day, if you watch, I
just wanted to see, like which crazy lefties came out
in support and you had your normal usual suspects, representatives

(32:20):
that came from Keith Ellison's office, the governor's office.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Had no one there to make any comments.

Speaker 10 (32:24):
Walls hasn't made any comments or about the Northfield man
illegal alien that Ice was able to snatch up.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
So it's weird how quiet he's been.

Speaker 10 (32:34):
He yesterday perked up out of nowhere to be like
see Donald Trump was calling for violence, but then he
again ducked back down. And I think that that's what
a strategy like. He's not going to jump into the
fray with these issues that could be perceived by independent
voters as like too radical, and it's it's to the
point that I'm starting to see DSA and dflers that

(32:56):
are saying, like Tim Walls needs to actually resign because
he's not jumping into the fray anymore.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
And it's very fascinating.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
All right, let's go here, got a couple of items
as we wrap up a Freedom Friday on a lighter note.
Starting Thursday, so yesterday, wamo's fleet of self driving vehicles
will hit the streets of Minneapolis, aiming to gain experience
in the area. Oh, this is going to end badly.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
They're using us as a training ground.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Yes, why not?

Speaker 4 (33:25):
God help us?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
This? For the San Francis, San Francisco based company has
kept its anonymous taxis to warmer climates Atlanta, Austin, La Phoenix,
San Francis, and San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Where did you get in one?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Max in Phoenix, Arizona, O Phoenix, Phoenix and Atlanta. And
I will just say I recorded a video myself doing
it and it was my first time in these self
driving cars and doing a selfie video. And the steering
wheel is turning in real time. Like I know that
seems obvious, but you can't believe that a robot is
driving you somewhere.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Aside from Minneapolis, WAMO has announced plans to expand to
snow your region's regions like Detroit, to and Denver. It
could be a long time before the rides are available
to the general republic in Minneapolis, as Waymo navigate state
and local regulations to bring its fleet online.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
How long until these things are destroyed? Those cars are
getting stolen? Yeah, give it a week.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
We're sure, just the amount of equipment there, I mean,
they're basically just going to be driving around with the
siren on top based off of how they look saying,
just mess with me, just mess with me. I mean,
it's sport for the youth in Minneapolis to go and
steal cars right now. Do you think that a robot
car driving around is not just going to get trashed,

(34:39):
absolutely going to get trashed.

Speaker 10 (34:41):
Well, if you guys, remember, we'll call it like the
illegal alien riots that are happening in Los Angeles. What
they did is they ordered a bunch of way Mos
and then they stood in front and then they all
kind of stacked up, and then they lit them on fire.
Because they're not going to run you out actually so yeah.
I mean people are going to be doing some pretty
wild things, joy riding, breaking in the windows, like that's

(35:03):
the thing is like, uh yeah, test it and you're
right reading out of the story.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
How is this going to work in the winter time? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (35:10):
When they like when they get stuck, do they just
like too bad, you're in You're stuck here with us?

Speaker 5 (35:15):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
But I want to see how those robots handle that frustration, yeah, dude,
Or when you randomly get cut off in Minneapolis, I
want to see how does the way more like does
the way moll have like a magic middle finger it
sticks up in the window.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Can they honk if you go and carjack Owaimo? Is
it still carjacking or is it robot jacket? Is it
waymou jack kidnapping? Robot kid robo jack?

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Grace Skating?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
American Experiment American Experiment Podcast.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
You got a moment?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Anything? You want to plug me on the podcast?

Speaker 7 (35:45):
Just to tune in next Tuesday, two pm.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Every week.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
American Experiment Podcast on YouTube and any major podcasting platform.

Speaker 10 (35:53):
RNC Committee in ak Kamara does follow me everywhere Real
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Speaker 2 (35:57):
Kamara representative match Rhymer. Thanks for having me, Thanks for
coming in man, it was fun this morning. If you
missed any portion of today's show, you can check out
the podcast. It's available on the iHeartRadio. Thank you to
Sam and the Master Control Booth. I hope everybody has
themselves a fantastic weekend and we of course are back
at it on Monday morning.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I'll talk to you then and again, have a great weekend.
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