December 9, 2025 • 34 mins
Jon wraps the show talking about Trump's relation to the GOP MN Governor race, and the new tax hikes on the way.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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John Justice, all of which just makes me feel better
about me. Let's get to a couple of your comments though.
This comes back to the conversation we were having about
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the governor's race. Oh, this candidate forum that I was
covering Ryan Fairclough. Ryan Fairclough and his incredibly biased piece
from the Star Tribune Trump looms large over Minnesota's GOP
race for governor. The forum, he says, was drew about
one hundred people. I actually got a text from an
individual who was there in the room and counted there
was two hundred people.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
They have what's called a Trump derangement problem. Have you
heard about that problem? Come on, Ryan, get it right.
You know how to count, don't.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You can't give too much credit, right, Let's get too
a few of your comments.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Good morning, Just a regular guy from Greater Minnesota here.
I'm a firm believer in competition breeds excellent. So you know,
in theory, more candidates competing, you're going to get the
absolute best of the best, cream of the crop.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's never seems to be how it works. The It
just I think we're just gonna dilute the vote, and
that's very problematic.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I don't have a good day.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well I hope we don't. I'm with you. I'm not
all that please with what I'm hearing so far.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But everybody's entitled to run their campaigns how they want
to go and run them. But I am very afraid
that because of this desire for a slam dunk against
Governor Tim Walls again, assuming he's the candidate, the expectations
are really really high. All of these are good candidates,
that's guess. That's my larger point. All of them are.
None of them are going to be perfect. They're never
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going to fit into an exact box. Portrayal of the
ultimate candidate. So choose your fighters, support them, but don't
drag down your friends or other candidates in the process.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Well, I agree with you, John Well. One thing I
hate most about Minnesota Republicans is that they force you
into a situation where you're just voting for the lesson
of regal. They never give us anything positive to go for,
and I'm fick and tired of it. I'm going to
vote for Chrisha Fold. I don't scare where the chips fall.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I disagree with your premise, and we can agree to disagree,
voting for the lesser of two evils. This is also
sort of a subjective mentality. That is your viewpoint that
you're taking your personal opinion. It's cool that you have it,
but I don't agree with it because it's just not
true in my opinion that Republicans never give us anything
positive to vote for. As I mentioned, I would be
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more than happy for the most part. I wear my
slippers every day, I put my head on my pillow.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Not sure I need him is my governor.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
That being said, I would be more than happy for
the most part in any of these candidates.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I would still take Mike Lindell over Walls.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Don't mist understand this is what Let's be clear, that
would be more of a not even a lesser of
two evils. Okay, I'm just saying I just don't think
Mike can win.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
That's all that is. Mike's a good guy, don't get
me wrong, But.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I just don't agree that Republicans never give us anything
positive to vote for. Again, I think that's more of
a subjective than an objective attitude.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But you're certainly.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Entitled to it, and you're a longtime friend of the show,
and I know that typically is where you fall. So
where does the Minneapolis Times fall? Relating to Governor Tim
Walls rather interesting and a piece available at Minneapolistimes dot com.
Worry among dfllers over Governor Chimwall's candidacy for an unprecedented
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third consecutive term has gone from whispers to persistent chatter.
I share this with you because this is what I've
been looking to find out from the left. What is
the left's current perspective of their governor. The level of
anks hasn't yet reached the intensity provoked by Biden's candidacy.
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After his dismissal from the twenty twenty four debate with
Donald Trump, but they say concern is growing. DFL anxiety
ratcheted up several notches in recent days when the fraud
scandals in Minnesota became national news, including up substantiated allegations
that some of the stolen public funds have gone to
finance the terrorist organization Al Shabad.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Stop right there. Okay, they're not wrong with.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Upsubstantiated allegations, but come on already to even include that.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You can say allegations.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Has fraud from excuse me, has money made from fraud
in Minnesota gone to Somalia?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yes, we do know that. And if you know.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Any of the history of what's going on in Somalia
right now, when it comes to the terrorist organizations there,
they kind of rule the roosts.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
There is no.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Formal government over there, so it's a good bet that
money landed in the hands of terrorists, intentional or not. Anyway,
the scope of the fraud under Walls's watch is serious,
having reached several hundreds of millions of dollars in stolen
taxpayer funds, says The Minneapolis Times. Adding to public outrage
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is this year audacity of the perpetrators and what seems
to be willful blindness by government managers to what was
happening in plain sight. A housing program, for example, launched
in twenty twenty an annual projected cost of two point
six million. Within four years, the annual cost has soared
to one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
How is that one.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Program growing forty times initial its cost estimates? Before anyone
questions the competency of those making the original budget projected
projections or raisist suspicions of fraud, yes you are true.
Just wait, the big butt orange man bad is coming
in this piece. Through all of this, Walls has often
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seemed and disengaged, sometimes even dismissive of the fraud. Walls
told The New York Times the programs were set up
to improve people's lives, and in many cases the criminals
just find the loopholes, almost suggesting that rampant theft is
just a fact of life in government programs. It's the
same excuse that Ilhan Omar offered up when she was
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talking with Meet the Press.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
As a matter of fact, I think I actually have
that clip.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
All the eighty seven people charged, all but eight are
of Somali descent, and that has added to the spotlight
being put specifically on your community. Why do you think
this fraud was allowed to get so widespread?
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Well, I want to say, you know, this also has
an impact on Somali's because we are also taxpayers in Minnesota.
We also could have benefited from the program and the
money that was stolen, and so it's been really frustrating
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for people to not acknowledge the fact that we're you know,
we're also as a Minnesota as the taxpayers, really upset
and angry about the fraud that has occurred.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, so that clip was the one where she was
saying that it's the Somali's perpetuating fraud that are actually
hurting other Samali.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
She's not wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It's true they are taxpayers as well, and that doesn't
account for the individuals involved within that community that are
not running those programs. But also we're more than happy
to go and take payoffs to have say their children
enrolled in the autism program, so the fraud could be
perpetuated or just.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Simply turned a blind eye.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But in that same interview with Margaret with Margaret Brennan
on ABC, she offered the same excuse that Walls did
saying when asked about why the fraud takes place, well,
it's like, well, you know, sometimes the programs are you know,
just open to this type of fraud.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So we will and I will share with you the turn.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
To this piece does because they spent the first half
of it talking about all the reasons why Walls is
a failure before they end up providing all of these
things that they would like to see Walls go and
do in their hopes that he would win a second term.
It make it make sense, It doesn't. It's the left
gas lighting once again. And I'll give you the example
coming up on Twin City's News Talking. We'll get to
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your comments from the iHeartRadio app next. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You know, the.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Democrats, the lefts, they constantly gas light that the GOP
will always bend the knee for Trump. That Star Tribune
article that I shared with you where they got the
number of individuals so petty by the way, about one
hundred people there.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Now there were more than that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But this Trump looms large over the Minnesota GOP race
for for governor. And listen, they made the point are
accurate that the majority of the candidates that are running
right they're running to get Trump's endorsement. Some of them aren't,
like Scott Jensen. Not a huge surprise there. But it's
the left that's constantly complaining that the GOP just caves
to the whim of every single thing that Trump does.
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And yet time and time again, various commentators editorial writers
display what actual acquiescing to politicians looks like. In this
piece here at the Minneapolis Times, why is Tim Walls Running?
They spend the first half of it talking about the fraud,
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how it's been dismissed, while almost suggesting the rampant theft
it's just a fact of life and government programs.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I mean, even.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Governor Tim Walls, you know, talking about how well the
fraud's taking place because we're just such a successful state,
which really is a bad sign, meaning that I guess,
if you're a really successful state, you just have to
accept billions of dollars in fraud being perpetuated.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
And then they end up turning a corner.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's just to say, it's exactly the same thing that
j Patrick Hooligan did in the Minnesota Reformer calling out
Walls's failures, only to close on But despite all that,
guys Orange man is still really bad. The Minneapolis Times
piece goes on to say Walls remains a formidable candidate
with advantages of incumbency and its significant campaign resources. He's
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a likable, decent person and those qualities go a long
way with voters. First off, those are questionable qualities. And
even if you're on the left and that's what you believe,
that he's a likable decent person, those are quickly evaporating.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Do people on let really think that, I guess they do.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Even so, if the election turns only on fraud, Walls's
third term is in jeopardy. Okay, Simply put, Walls needs
to answer the most fundamental question asked of all the candidates,
why are you running right now?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Walls seems mostly to want a third.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Term to keep a national perch from which you can
criticize Trump. So you're still thinking, wow, they're really still
going after Walls on this.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Then they get to this.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
The greatest out migration challenge in Minnesota faces isn't the
retired wealthy moving to Florida. It's a departure of young,
talented people. Minnesota is now a net exporter of college students,
one of only sixteen states In this predicament, the soon
to be educated people.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Leave and many never return.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Keeping these young people in Minnesota maybe the single greatest
challenge the state faces, and the status quo won't do it.
Trump will continue to promote abysmal policies and make out
rageous offensive statements. This is where it ends up taking
that all too familiar term, I'm.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
An optimistic person, I'm not hysterical.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Wall leave it to others, including the state's congressional delegation,
to hold the president accountable. Minnesota needs a governor invested
in making a state stronger, not in making Trump and
his administration weaker. Independence Forward Party gubernatorial candidate Mike Newcom
is a fresh voice challenging the status quo, but has
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to gain the belief of voters that he can win
an uphill battle of all third party candidates, so they
spend the entire piece talking about all the ways that
Walls is bad, only to land on the winner of
next year's gubernatorial race needs to begin a new term
with a clear mandate for action that goes beyond ending
fraud and calling out Trump's assault on our country.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Otherwise the next.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Four years will be nothing but running in place at best,
a downward spiral at worst, and if that is the future,
by the time twenty thirties gubernatorial election rolls around, Trump
will be gone, but so will many Minnesota taxpayers who
have funded the programs fraudsters have found so attractive. And
what would make these individuals believe that a third term
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of Walls would be any different than his first and
second terms? Or is this just a byproduct of not
a good challenger has emerged? So again, this is really
the lesser of two evils for those that are on
the left right now. But it's just so typical. They're
right there, They're right there. You're not even gonna look.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
At any of the GOP candidates, Listen.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I don't have any expectation that they that they would,
but given everything that they've laid out of Walls's failures,
you'd think that that would possibly.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Be on the menu. Maybe just maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
All right, coming up, we're gonna hop into the wayback
machine on a couple of different fraud related issues. Nolan
West put out a really interesting piece regarding the woman
who won the Outstanding Refugee of the Year a war
only to be indicted in Feeding our Future. Also, we're
gonna go back in time to win us Attyranney, Andy
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Luger was in charge, and he was talking specifically about
the bribes that were taking place during the Feeding our
Future trial. Straight out of a Mob movie. Also details
Rochester Schools spent two hundred and fifty thousand dollars on
a training program tied to the superintendent's wife, and is
the City of Minneapolis really gonna spend one hundred and
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fifty thousand dollars for a city paid prints sing along party?
Details coming up on Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven
thirty and one O three five FM.
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Certainly creative. Yeah, that was that came in early this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We were talking about the We were talking about the
weather and the snow and the storm it's on its way.
I don't quite get the carrier pigeon turkey thing there,
like I've missed something.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
But well, it's so cold and miserable that I can't
leave together.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Okay, all right, I mean I have to eat the
carrier pitch.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Okay, Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's kind of where my head was at. But maybe
I was thinking too deep. You know, I'm overly analytical.
It's what I do on the show. So sometimes I
overthink and I don't just go with the obvious. There,
and that was the obvious. So glad that you're here, Brett,
much appreciated. All right, a couple of emails I wanted
to share. We were talking paid family medical leave. We'll
be talking a bunch about this heading into next year,
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in the pending looming disaster that it will be. Emails
that rolled in to Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. First
one came from Rob. I'm a real estate agent and
I'm self employed. I set up a corporation and made
myself an employee to save taxes. I'm the only employee,
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yet I have to pay for a program I will
never use. How is that fair for a person like me?
One thing I would like to know? And next time
I have maybe h when Max is in on Friday,
assuming he's an on Friday for Freedom Friday, last Freedom
Friday of the year, by the way, this Friday, because
I'm off next Friday.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So that's the only reason why. But I was there.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Let me get to the point. Was there an opt out?
Even suggested I am assuming not. I think the whole
program for paid family medical leave is contingent on getting
as many people on board to go and cover it.
But there really should be an opt out. I'm not
going to be taking this. I can't take this. I
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already have a means to take the time off even
if I get sick. And yet, if you make one
hundred thousand dollars a year, and you can do the
math up or down on this, right, So, if you
make one hundred thousand dollars a year, it's going to
cost you about eight hundred dollars a year, whether you
take the time off or not. So you can just
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start doing the math and breaking it down. If you
make sixty thousand, you're gonna be looking at, you know,
somewhere around probably like five hundred, five hundred and fifty
dollars a year just taken from you, whether or.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Not you take all that time off or not.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And to that point, Lynn writes in my seventeen year
old high schooler came home from his part time job
last week with a big smile on his face, proudly
showing me the notice from his employer about paid family leave.
We spent an hour discussing the pros and cons of
this policy and how under our roof there was no
reason for him to use it. I can only imagine
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so many other young people who are not having this
conversation and instead being further indoctrinated into this sick socialism
at best.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
No, Lynn is absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I had an email from a friend of the show
who said that he would be having to he will
have to take advantage of this next year. He's dealing
with some issues and that in order to take the
other time off, and I think the other time off
that he typically would have isn't even available anymore. And
he was conflicted. He was like, am I doing something wrong?
It's like, no, two things can be the same. You know,
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two things can be true, and in this case, you
can be opposed to the program. But also if you're
in a certain situation and you have to take advantage
of it, yeah, you should take advantage of it. You're
paying into it already. Why wouldn't you? I mean, and
therein lies how nefarious this paid family medical leave is.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
But it is gross.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And as I said late last week and I'll repeat
it now, pay family medical leave heading into next year
is going to be the next biggest story in the
negative category for Minnesota, just below the fraud that we've
just to hit the tip of the iceberg on. Because
pay family medical leave is going to impact every single
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working taxpayer from the employer all the way down to
every single employee, and you have no choice, and you're
going to be losing hundreds of dollars a year in
this program. You know, I give the media a hard
time and they deserve it. Don't mist understand they have
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done reporting on these things. I just I want to
stress that. I mean, most recently, louverra goosover at Cara
Levin the reporting that he's done in calling out specifically
over the weekend, how Mayor Melvin Carter out of Saint
Paul was straight up lying about these issues that we've
been talking about relating to fraud and who discovered the
fraud first. Governor Tim Wallas did the same thing. There
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has been investigative reports into these items of fraud before.
So it is a mistake to say that the media
never covered this stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And I've mentioned as much on the show.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know, the problem is we don't have leadership that
goes and calls it out and addresses it and wants
to take care of it.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
That's a part of the problem.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
The media aspect of it is more about the lack
of follow up and specifically ignoring elected officials voices that
could raise awareness of the issues.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
They'll touch upon the fraud, but then.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
When you have any Republicans speaking out against it, they'll
just simply go and ignore them. Therein lies where the
media aspect issue of this comes into play. But then
you have from the leadership aspect, you don't have Democrats
that are calling it out. Democrats would go and get attention.
Governor Tim Walls should have stepped up a long time
ago relating to the fraud and called it out, but
he went and ignored it over and over again. And
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the same thing rings true right now when it comes
to this paid family medical leave.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It got covered when.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
They were debating it, but none of the complaints, the
criticism and concerns of Republicans were ever brought to the
forefront on this issue before the Democrats went and rammed
it through. And even when you had some Democrats protesting
this last year saying can we at least put a
pause on this, those voices got ignored by those that
are in the tank for the Democrats that were making
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sure that they were towing the party line by even
ignoring a handful of those Democrats that were in opposition
just wanting a delay because the businesses were saying, we
cannot afford this.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
John chuck Up and Blaine, it is very obvious this
government family leave is really going to be set up
for government workers. There is going to be no debate,
no fight, no chance of layoffs. And I really think
it's going to be abused. Imagine that another abused Pearl
program under Tim wolves By.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
No, absolutely absolutely it's going to be abused. There's no
doubt about that. Just wait, just gonna take a long
enough timeline.
Speaker 10 (23:44):
My husband and I built a house in Wisconsin last
year and are living in Wisconsin but working in Minnesota.
And I at this point am looking for a job
in Wisconsin so that I do not have to participate
in these crazy things that are happening in Minnesota that
are caught us hundreds and hundreds of dollars that we
are never going to be able to recoup from. It's
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just insane.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Let me provide for you another example of just how
things end up flying under the radar. If the details
that Nolan West shares in this video, which was posted
on social media, if you'd flipped the script and this
was somebody aligned with conservatives or Republicans in any way,
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it would have been a major story.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
This is the.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Outstanding Refuge of the Year award winner. Photographs taken with
Governor Tim Walls of this individual who ended up going
to trial and I believe admitting guilty for fraud relating
defeating our Future.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Me Ion abu Kar.
Speaker 11 (24:52):
In twenty twenty one, she won the Outstanding Refugee Entrepreneurship
Award from the Minnesota Department of Human Services. Just a
few years her nonprofits generated over five point seven million
in revenue.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
How amazing.
Speaker 11 (25:07):
Today she's a convicted felon who helps steal millions meant
to feed hungry children, and her story perfectly illustrates Minnesota's
fraud epidemic. So sit back and enjoy the unbelievable story
of Ayan Abukar. When COVID hit and government money started
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flowing from a fire hose, Ion saw an opportunity. She
signed up her nonprofit for Feeding Our Future, which we
all now know for their quarter of a billion dollar
fraud scheme. And from October twenty twenty to early twenty
twenty two, she claimed that her sights in Bloomington, Minneapolis,
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Savage Saint Paul were feeding five thousand or more kids daily.
In reality, no sites actually existed and the kids didn't
exist either. Prosecutors say that she alone pocketed five point
seven million dollars. Quite the entrepreneur, I would say, what
did she do with the money? Well, she bought a
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thirty seven acre commercial property in Lakeville. She purchased a
jet in Nairobi, Kenya, and she sent hundreds of thousands
of dollars back overseas to who knows who.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
She bought a jet. There's your our three podcast title.
She bought a jet.
Speaker 11 (26:34):
And to keep all this scam running smoothly, she gave
three hundred and thirty thousand dollars to a Feeding Our
Future employee to make sure that her invoices sailed through.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But it gets worse.
Speaker 11 (26:46):
Her fraudulent company, Dimespeak Enterprise, shared the same address as
a childcare center run by her daughter and one that
recently had its license revoked for you guessed it fraud.
In January twenty twenty five, ion Abu Kar stood in
federal court and pled guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud.
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Sentencing is still pending, but thankfully she faces years in prison.
But this is not just one bad apple. Many of
the defendants and Feeding our Future have connections to fraudulent
autism centers, just another fraud thing. In Minnesota. We have
seen massive fraud across our state in childcare assistance, food
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for children, autism centers, and homelessness programs. Even it's systemic
and frankly, it's embarrassing. And if this makes you angry,
I mean it makes me laugh sometimes, but man, it
makes me angry. Well it should share this video because
we need people to know so we can get real answers.
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We need to make it impossible to block real reform
as has been done repeatedly in the past.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
It's representative Nolan West, you know. And to the I
have another clip that I want to play. I think
I can sneak it in before. Are these occurrent out
times the correct ones here?
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Okay? Great little on air production meeting.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So Ben Shapiro had a lengthy piece in The Daily
Wire earlier this week what did il Han Omar know
and when did she know it? And he points out
that in the New York Post reporting and also the
New York Times, the fraud that was perpetuated, especially Underfeeding
our Future, This happened inside of Ilhan Omar's district, and
her defense has been everybody who mentioned this stuff is
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just racist.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
We're talking about this earlier.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
It's important to note, though, just how brazen these individuals
have become.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
If il haan.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Omar you flipped the script again on any of this,
and these are concerns of anybody aligned with the right
and fraud in districts of Republicans, You and I both
know what the commentary would be. I mean the the
ties that il Han Omar had to the numerous individuals
that have been caught up in fraud. But of course
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she knew nothing. Now I want to hop into the
wayback machine one more time. Jake Can seventy two had
grabbed this online. I saw it as I was prepping
for the show this morning. You go back to June
of twenty twenty four, and this was during the two
hundred and fifty million dollar Feeding our Fraud trial Feeding
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Our Future. The defendants didn't just try to steal money,
they tried to buy the jury. This is how brazen
things got. This is only over a handful of individuals
regarding Feeding our Future, not everybody. And yet here is
the former US attorney here in Minnesota, Andy Luger laying
out how this was straight out of a mob movie.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
What took place, ibury is a serious federal crime. An
unknown woman showed up at the home of.
Speaker 12 (29:52):
A jur That unknown woman, US attorney Andy Luger says
is thirty one year old Laddin Ali, and this is
reporting from care eleven. Ali and four men are now
charged with a rare crime. Corruptly influencing a.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Juror corruption of a jury through intimidation or bribery is
a serious federal crime that carries a significant prison sentence.
Speaker 12 (30:14):
In Lucer's press conference Wednesday, he highlighted how Ali flew
to Minnesota from Seattle, where she also has ties.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Dur fifty two, leaving a parking ramp.
Speaker 12 (30:22):
Luger says Ali surveiled the youngest in only juror of color.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Following her home from the courthouse.
Speaker 12 (30:29):
Over three days, Ali allegedly drove by Juror fifty two's
Spring Lake Park home nineteen times. This heat map created
by the FBI shows the amount of time Ali spent
near the juror's home according to her rental car's GPS data.
Directed by four men, including three standing trial for stealing
more than forty million dollars from the federal child nutrition
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program during the pandemic. The defendants are accused of a
sophisticated plot to get to Juror fifty two with money,
then detailed instructions on how to convince the rest of
the jury to vote not guilty, primarily by accusing the
government of being racist against the Somali immigrants. After being
driven back to Juror number fifty two's house by this man,
Abdul Karim Fara Ali is accused of bringing one hundred
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and twenty thousand dollars cash to the door and promising
Juror fifty two's family member that more money would come
after than not guilty verdict. A scene right out of
a mob movie.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
This is more than just a mob movie. This is
a chilling attack on our system of justice.
Speaker 12 (31:31):
Luger stressed how rare the attempted bribe of a juror
is nationwide.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
But it just doesn't happen in Minnesota.
Speaker 12 (31:38):
In fact, Caro Levin News was only able to find
one other documented case in our state in nineteen sixty one,
during an actual mob trial taking place in Minneapolis involving
the kid can liquor syndicate.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I'm gonna stop this here just because of time. It
does make me wonder like what.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Like I understand why okay, but also why, I mean,
why was this so important to protect these particular individuals?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
What is it that made them again?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Zero in on one juror, the youngest on the panel,
believed to be the only person of color on the panel,
pulled their address, did a complete background check online footprint,
then stalked the individual for days, flew in a courier
from Seattle to drop the Hallmark gift bag stuffed with
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one hundred and twenty thousand dollars cash on the relative's doorstep.
Vote not guilty on every count. There's more money coming again,
and the claim would be the prosecution was racist to
go to the juror and flip the other jurors one
by one. Thankfully that juror didn't flinch. All five conspirators
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folded and pleaded guilty.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
As of this.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Month, the courier Ladon Ali, who delivered the bribe, still
walks free out on release waiting for sentencing. And yet
you still have individuals out there that just want to
say no, no, no, no no, we just have to
ignore anything but the corruption taking place, we cannot point
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to the individuals involved in perpetuating that corruption. Nope, all right,
Tomorrow on the show, we'll talk a lot about Hennepin County.
One hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a city paid
prints sing Along, three point five million in planning for
the future of George Floyd Square without anything being done,
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and a proposal of forty million dollars on disparity elimination
within the Hennepin County budget. So if you miss any
portion of today's show, check out the podcast available up
on the iHeart Radio app. Have yourself a fantastic Tuesday.
Be wary of the storm, but do not fret. We
will be back live tomorrow starting at six to six.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Have a great day. Thanks for hanging out this morning.
I appreciate it. Bye.
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about me. Let's get to a couple of your comments though.
This comes back to the conversation we were having about
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the governor's race. Oh, this candidate forum that I was
covering Ryan Fairclough. Ryan Fairclough and his incredibly biased piece
from the Star Tribune Trump looms large over Minnesota's GOP
race for governor. The forum, he says, was drew about
one hundred people. I actually got a text from an
individual who was there in the room and counted there
was two hundred people.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
They have what's called a Trump derangement problem. Have you
heard about that problem? Come on, Ryan, get it right.
You know how to count, don't.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You can't give too much credit, right, Let's get too
a few of your comments.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Good morning, Just a regular guy from Greater Minnesota here.
I'm a firm believer in competition breeds excellent. So you know,
in theory, more candidates competing, you're going to get the
absolute best of the best, cream of the crop.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's never seems to be how it works. The It
just I think we're just gonna dilute the vote, and
that's very problematic.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I don't have a good day.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well I hope we don't. I'm with you. I'm not
all that please with what I'm hearing so far.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But everybody's entitled to run their campaigns how they want
to go and run them. But I am very afraid
that because of this desire for a slam dunk against
Governor Tim Walls again, assuming he's the candidate, the expectations
are really really high. All of these are good candidates,
that's guess. That's my larger point. All of them are.
None of them are going to be perfect. They're never
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going to fit into an exact box. Portrayal of the
ultimate candidate. So choose your fighters, support them, but don't
drag down your friends or other candidates in the process.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Well, I agree with you, John Well. One thing I
hate most about Minnesota Republicans is that they force you
into a situation where you're just voting for the lesson
of regal. They never give us anything positive to go for,
and I'm fick and tired of it. I'm going to
vote for Chrisha Fold. I don't scare where the chips fall.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I disagree with your premise, and we can agree to disagree,
voting for the lesser of two evils. This is also
sort of a subjective mentality. That is your viewpoint that
you're taking your personal opinion. It's cool that you have it,
but I don't agree with it because it's just not
true in my opinion that Republicans never give us anything
positive to vote for. As I mentioned, I would be
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more than happy for the most part. I wear my
slippers every day, I put my head on my pillow.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Not sure I need him is my governor.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
That being said, I would be more than happy for
the most part in any of these candidates.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I would still take Mike Lindell over Walls.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Don't mist understand this is what Let's be clear, that
would be more of a not even a lesser of
two evils. Okay, I'm just saying I just don't think
Mike can win.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
That's all that is. Mike's a good guy, don't get
me wrong, But.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I just don't agree that Republicans never give us anything
positive to vote for. Again, I think that's more of
a subjective than an objective attitude.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But you're certainly.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Entitled to it, and you're a longtime friend of the show,
and I know that typically is where you fall. So
where does the Minneapolis Times fall? Relating to Governor Tim
Walls rather interesting and a piece available at Minneapolistimes dot com.
Worry among dfllers over Governor Chimwall's candidacy for an unprecedented
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third consecutive term has gone from whispers to persistent chatter.
I share this with you because this is what I've
been looking to find out from the left. What is
the left's current perspective of their governor. The level of
anks hasn't yet reached the intensity provoked by Biden's candidacy.
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After his dismissal from the twenty twenty four debate with
Donald Trump, but they say concern is growing. DFL anxiety
ratcheted up several notches in recent days when the fraud
scandals in Minnesota became national news, including up substantiated allegations
that some of the stolen public funds have gone to
finance the terrorist organization Al Shabad.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Stop right there. Okay, they're not wrong with.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Upsubstantiated allegations, but come on already to even include that.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You can say allegations.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Has fraud from excuse me, has money made from fraud
in Minnesota gone to Somalia?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yes, we do know that. And if you know.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Any of the history of what's going on in Somalia
right now, when it comes to the terrorist organizations there,
they kind of rule the roosts.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
There is no.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Formal government over there, so it's a good bet that
money landed in the hands of terrorists, intentional or not. Anyway,
the scope of the fraud under Walls's watch is serious,
having reached several hundreds of millions of dollars in stolen
taxpayer funds, says The Minneapolis Times. Adding to public outrage
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is this year audacity of the perpetrators and what seems
to be willful blindness by government managers to what was
happening in plain sight. A housing program, for example, launched
in twenty twenty an annual projected cost of two point
six million. Within four years, the annual cost has soared
to one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
How is that one.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Program growing forty times initial its cost estimates? Before anyone
questions the competency of those making the original budget projected
projections or raisist suspicions of fraud, yes you are true.
Just wait, the big butt orange man bad is coming
in this piece. Through all of this, Walls has often
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seemed and disengaged, sometimes even dismissive of the fraud. Walls
told The New York Times the programs were set up
to improve people's lives, and in many cases the criminals
just find the loopholes, almost suggesting that rampant theft is
just a fact of life in government programs. It's the
same excuse that Ilhan Omar offered up when she was
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talking with Meet the Press.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
As a matter of fact, I think I actually have
that clip.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
All the eighty seven people charged, all but eight are
of Somali descent, and that has added to the spotlight
being put specifically on your community. Why do you think
this fraud was allowed to get so widespread?
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Well, I want to say, you know, this also has
an impact on Somali's because we are also taxpayers in Minnesota.
We also could have benefited from the program and the
money that was stolen, and so it's been really frustrating
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for people to not acknowledge the fact that we're you know,
we're also as a Minnesota as the taxpayers, really upset
and angry about the fraud that has occurred.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, so that clip was the one where she was
saying that it's the Somali's perpetuating fraud that are actually
hurting other Samali.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
She's not wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It's true they are taxpayers as well, and that doesn't
account for the individuals involved within that community that are
not running those programs. But also we're more than happy
to go and take payoffs to have say their children
enrolled in the autism program, so the fraud could be
perpetuated or just.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Simply turned a blind eye.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But in that same interview with Margaret with Margaret Brennan
on ABC, she offered the same excuse that Walls did
saying when asked about why the fraud takes place, well,
it's like, well, you know, sometimes the programs are you know,
just open to this type of fraud.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So we will and I will share with you the turn.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
To this piece does because they spent the first half
of it talking about all the reasons why Walls is
a failure before they end up providing all of these
things that they would like to see Walls go and
do in their hopes that he would win a second term.
It make it make sense, It doesn't. It's the left
gas lighting once again. And I'll give you the example
coming up on Twin City's News Talking. We'll get to
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your comments from the iHeartRadio app next. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You know, the.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Democrats, the lefts, they constantly gas light that the GOP
will always bend the knee for Trump. That Star Tribune
article that I shared with you where they got the
number of individuals so petty by the way, about one
hundred people there.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Now there were more than that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
But this Trump looms large over the Minnesota GOP race
for for governor. And listen, they made the point are
accurate that the majority of the candidates that are running
right they're running to get Trump's endorsement. Some of them aren't,
like Scott Jensen. Not a huge surprise there. But it's
the left that's constantly complaining that the GOP just caves
to the whim of every single thing that Trump does.
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And yet time and time again, various commentators editorial writers
display what actual acquiescing to politicians looks like. In this
piece here at the Minneapolis Times, why is Tim Walls Running?
They spend the first half of it talking about the fraud,
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how it's been dismissed, while almost suggesting the rampant theft
it's just a fact of life and government programs.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I mean, even.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Governor Tim Walls, you know, talking about how well the
fraud's taking place because we're just such a successful state,
which really is a bad sign, meaning that I guess,
if you're a really successful state, you just have to
accept billions of dollars in fraud being perpetuated.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
And then they end up turning a corner.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's just to say, it's exactly the same thing that
j Patrick Hooligan did in the Minnesota Reformer calling out
Walls's failures, only to close on But despite all that,
guys Orange man is still really bad. The Minneapolis Times
piece goes on to say Walls remains a formidable candidate
with advantages of incumbency and its significant campaign resources. He's
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a likable, decent person and those qualities go a long
way with voters. First off, those are questionable qualities. And
even if you're on the left and that's what you believe,
that he's a likable decent person, those are quickly evaporating.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Do people on let really think that, I guess they do.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Even so, if the election turns only on fraud, Walls's
third term is in jeopardy. Okay, Simply put, Walls needs
to answer the most fundamental question asked of all the candidates,
why are you running right now?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Walls seems mostly to want a third.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Term to keep a national perch from which you can
criticize Trump. So you're still thinking, wow, they're really still
going after Walls on this.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Then they get to this.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
The greatest out migration challenge in Minnesota faces isn't the
retired wealthy moving to Florida. It's a departure of young,
talented people. Minnesota is now a net exporter of college students,
one of only sixteen states In this predicament, the soon
to be educated people.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Leave and many never return.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Keeping these young people in Minnesota maybe the single greatest
challenge the state faces, and the status quo won't do it.
Trump will continue to promote abysmal policies and make out
rageous offensive statements. This is where it ends up taking
that all too familiar term, I'm.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
An optimistic person, I'm not hysterical.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Wall leave it to others, including the state's congressional delegation,
to hold the president accountable. Minnesota needs a governor invested
in making a state stronger, not in making Trump and
his administration weaker. Independence Forward Party gubernatorial candidate Mike Newcom
is a fresh voice challenging the status quo, but has
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to gain the belief of voters that he can win
an uphill battle of all third party candidates, so they
spend the entire piece talking about all the ways that
Walls is bad, only to land on the winner of
next year's gubernatorial race needs to begin a new term
with a clear mandate for action that goes beyond ending
fraud and calling out Trump's assault on our country.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Otherwise the next.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Four years will be nothing but running in place at best,
a downward spiral at worst, and if that is the future,
by the time twenty thirties gubernatorial election rolls around, Trump
will be gone, but so will many Minnesota taxpayers who
have funded the programs fraudsters have found so attractive. And
what would make these individuals believe that a third term
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of Walls would be any different than his first and
second terms? Or is this just a byproduct of not
a good challenger has emerged? So again, this is really
the lesser of two evils for those that are on
the left right now. But it's just so typical. They're
right there, They're right there. You're not even gonna look.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
At any of the GOP candidates, Listen.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I don't have any expectation that they that they would,
but given everything that they've laid out of Walls's failures,
you'd think that that would possibly.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Be on the menu. Maybe just maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
All right, coming up, we're gonna hop into the wayback
machine on a couple of different fraud related issues. Nolan
West put out a really interesting piece regarding the woman
who won the Outstanding Refugee of the Year a war
only to be indicted in Feeding our Future. Also, we're
gonna go back in time to win us Attyranney, Andy
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Luger was in charge, and he was talking specifically about
the bribes that were taking place during the Feeding our
Future trial. Straight out of a Mob movie. Also details
Rochester Schools spent two hundred and fifty thousand dollars on
a training program tied to the superintendent's wife, and is
the City of Minneapolis really gonna spend one hundred and
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fifty thousand dollars for a city paid prints sing along party?
Details coming up on Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven
thirty and one O three five FM.
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Speaker 1 (16:47):
Certainly creative. Yeah, that was that came in early this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We were talking about the We were talking about the
weather and the snow and the storm it's on its way.
I don't quite get the carrier pigeon turkey thing there,
like I've missed something.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
But well, it's so cold and miserable that I can't
leave together.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Okay, all right, I mean I have to eat the
carrier pitch.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Okay, Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That's kind of where my head was at. But maybe
I was thinking too deep. You know, I'm overly analytical.
It's what I do on the show. So sometimes I
overthink and I don't just go with the obvious. There,
and that was the obvious. So glad that you're here, Brett,
much appreciated. All right, a couple of emails I wanted
to share. We were talking paid family medical leave. We'll
be talking a bunch about this heading into next year,
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in the pending looming disaster that it will be. Emails
that rolled in to Justice at iHeartRadio dot com. First
one came from Rob. I'm a real estate agent and
I'm self employed. I set up a corporation and made
myself an employee to save taxes. I'm the only employee,
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yet I have to pay for a program I will
never use. How is that fair for a person like me?
One thing I would like to know? And next time
I have maybe h when Max is in on Friday,
assuming he's an on Friday for Freedom Friday, last Freedom
Friday of the year, by the way, this Friday, because
I'm off next Friday.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So that's the only reason why. But I was there.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Let me get to the point. Was there an opt out?
Even suggested I am assuming not. I think the whole
program for paid family medical leave is contingent on getting
as many people on board to go and cover it.
But there really should be an opt out. I'm not
going to be taking this. I can't take this. I
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already have a means to take the time off even
if I get sick. And yet, if you make one
hundred thousand dollars a year, and you can do the
math up or down on this, right, So, if you
make one hundred thousand dollars a year, it's going to
cost you about eight hundred dollars a year, whether you
take the time off or not. So you can just
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start doing the math and breaking it down. If you
make sixty thousand, you're gonna be looking at, you know,
somewhere around probably like five hundred, five hundred and fifty
dollars a year just taken from you, whether or.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Not you take all that time off or not.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And to that point, Lynn writes in my seventeen year
old high schooler came home from his part time job
last week with a big smile on his face, proudly
showing me the notice from his employer about paid family leave.
We spent an hour discussing the pros and cons of
this policy and how under our roof there was no
reason for him to use it. I can only imagine
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so many other young people who are not having this
conversation and instead being further indoctrinated into this sick socialism
at best.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
No, Lynn is absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I had an email from a friend of the show
who said that he would be having to he will
have to take advantage of this next year. He's dealing
with some issues and that in order to take the
other time off, and I think the other time off
that he typically would have isn't even available anymore. And
he was conflicted. He was like, am I doing something wrong?
It's like, no, two things can be the same. You know,
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two things can be true, and in this case, you
can be opposed to the program. But also if you're
in a certain situation and you have to take advantage
of it, yeah, you should take advantage of it. You're
paying into it already. Why wouldn't you? I mean, and
therein lies how nefarious this paid family medical leave is.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
But it is gross.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And as I said late last week and I'll repeat
it now, pay family medical leave heading into next year
is going to be the next biggest story in the
negative category for Minnesota, just below the fraud that we've
just to hit the tip of the iceberg on. Because
pay family medical leave is going to impact every single
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working taxpayer from the employer all the way down to
every single employee, and you have no choice, and you're
going to be losing hundreds of dollars a year in
this program. You know, I give the media a hard
time and they deserve it. Don't mist understand they have
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done reporting on these things. I just I want to
stress that. I mean, most recently, louverra goosover at Cara
Levin the reporting that he's done in calling out specifically
over the weekend, how Mayor Melvin Carter out of Saint
Paul was straight up lying about these issues that we've
been talking about relating to fraud and who discovered the
fraud first. Governor Tim Wallas did the same thing. There
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has been investigative reports into these items of fraud before.
So it is a mistake to say that the media
never covered this stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And I've mentioned as much on the show.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know, the problem is we don't have leadership that
goes and calls it out and addresses it and wants
to take care of it.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
That's a part of the problem.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
The media aspect of it is more about the lack
of follow up and specifically ignoring elected officials voices that
could raise awareness of the issues.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
They'll touch upon the fraud, but then.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
When you have any Republicans speaking out against it, they'll
just simply go and ignore them. Therein lies where the
media aspect issue of this comes into play. But then
you have from the leadership aspect, you don't have Democrats
that are calling it out. Democrats would go and get attention.
Governor Tim Walls should have stepped up a long time
ago relating to the fraud and called it out, but
he went and ignored it over and over again. And
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the same thing rings true right now when it comes
to this paid family medical leave.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
It got covered when.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
They were debating it, but none of the complaints, the
criticism and concerns of Republicans were ever brought to the
forefront on this issue before the Democrats went and rammed
it through. And even when you had some Democrats protesting
this last year saying can we at least put a
pause on this, those voices got ignored by those that
are in the tank for the Democrats that were making
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sure that they were towing the party line by even
ignoring a handful of those Democrats that were in opposition
just wanting a delay because the businesses were saying, we
cannot afford this.
Speaker 9 (23:14):
John chuck Up and Blaine, it is very obvious this
government family leave is really going to be set up
for government workers. There is going to be no debate,
no fight, no chance of layoffs. And I really think
it's going to be abused. Imagine that another abused Pearl
program under Tim wolves By.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
No, absolutely absolutely it's going to be abused. There's no
doubt about that. Just wait, just gonna take a long
enough timeline.
Speaker 10 (23:44):
My husband and I built a house in Wisconsin last
year and are living in Wisconsin but working in Minnesota.
And I at this point am looking for a job
in Wisconsin so that I do not have to participate
in these crazy things that are happening in Minnesota that
are caught us hundreds and hundreds of dollars that we
are never going to be able to recoup from. It's
(24:06):
just insane.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Let me provide for you another example of just how
things end up flying under the radar. If the details
that Nolan West shares in this video, which was posted
on social media, if you'd flipped the script and this
was somebody aligned with conservatives or Republicans in any way,
(24:28):
it would have been a major story.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
This is the.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Outstanding Refuge of the Year award winner. Photographs taken with
Governor Tim Walls of this individual who ended up going
to trial and I believe admitting guilty for fraud relating
defeating our Future.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Me Ion abu Kar.
Speaker 11 (24:52):
In twenty twenty one, she won the Outstanding Refugee Entrepreneurship
Award from the Minnesota Department of Human Services. Just a
few years her nonprofits generated over five point seven million
in revenue.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
How amazing.
Speaker 11 (25:07):
Today she's a convicted felon who helps steal millions meant
to feed hungry children, and her story perfectly illustrates Minnesota's
fraud epidemic. So sit back and enjoy the unbelievable story
of Ayan Abukar. When COVID hit and government money started
(25:28):
flowing from a fire hose, Ion saw an opportunity. She
signed up her nonprofit for Feeding Our Future, which we
all now know for their quarter of a billion dollar
fraud scheme. And from October twenty twenty to early twenty
twenty two, she claimed that her sights in Bloomington, Minneapolis,
(25:48):
Savage Saint Paul were feeding five thousand or more kids daily.
In reality, no sites actually existed and the kids didn't
exist either. Prosecutors say that she alone pocketed five point
seven million dollars. Quite the entrepreneur, I would say, what
did she do with the money? Well, she bought a
(26:11):
thirty seven acre commercial property in Lakeville. She purchased a
jet in Nairobi, Kenya, and she sent hundreds of thousands
of dollars back overseas to who knows who.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
She bought a jet. There's your our three podcast title.
She bought a jet.
Speaker 11 (26:34):
And to keep all this scam running smoothly, she gave
three hundred and thirty thousand dollars to a Feeding Our
Future employee to make sure that her invoices sailed through.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But it gets worse.
Speaker 11 (26:46):
Her fraudulent company, Dimespeak Enterprise, shared the same address as
a childcare center run by her daughter and one that
recently had its license revoked for you guessed it fraud.
In January twenty twenty five, ion Abu Kar stood in
federal court and pled guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud.
(27:08):
Sentencing is still pending, but thankfully she faces years in prison.
But this is not just one bad apple. Many of
the defendants and Feeding our Future have connections to fraudulent
autism centers, just another fraud thing. In Minnesota. We have
seen massive fraud across our state in childcare assistance, food
(27:29):
for children, autism centers, and homelessness programs. Even it's systemic
and frankly, it's embarrassing. And if this makes you angry,
I mean it makes me laugh sometimes, but man, it
makes me angry. Well it should share this video because
we need people to know so we can get real answers.
(27:49):
We need to make it impossible to block real reform
as has been done repeatedly in the past.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
It's representative Nolan West, you know. And to the I
have another clip that I want to play. I think
I can sneak it in before. Are these occurrent out
times the correct ones here?
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Okay? Great little on air production meeting.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So Ben Shapiro had a lengthy piece in The Daily
Wire earlier this week what did il Han Omar know
and when did she know it? And he points out
that in the New York Post reporting and also the
New York Times, the fraud that was perpetuated, especially Underfeeding
our Future, This happened inside of Ilhan Omar's district, and
her defense has been everybody who mentioned this stuff is
(28:30):
just racist.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
We're talking about this earlier.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
It's important to note, though, just how brazen these individuals
have become.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
If il haan.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Omar you flipped the script again on any of this,
and these are concerns of anybody aligned with the right
and fraud in districts of Republicans, You and I both
know what the commentary would be. I mean the the
ties that il Han Omar had to the numerous individuals
that have been caught up in fraud. But of course
(29:03):
she knew nothing. Now I want to hop into the
wayback machine one more time. Jake Can seventy two had
grabbed this online. I saw it as I was prepping
for the show this morning. You go back to June
of twenty twenty four, and this was during the two
hundred and fifty million dollar Feeding our Fraud trial Feeding
(29:23):
Our Future. The defendants didn't just try to steal money,
they tried to buy the jury. This is how brazen
things got. This is only over a handful of individuals
regarding Feeding our Future, not everybody. And yet here is
the former US attorney here in Minnesota, Andy Luger laying
out how this was straight out of a mob movie.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
What took place, ibury is a serious federal crime. An
unknown woman showed up at the home of.
Speaker 12 (29:52):
A jur That unknown woman, US attorney Andy Luger says
is thirty one year old Laddin Ali, and this is
reporting from care eleven. Ali and four men are now
charged with a rare crime. Corruptly influencing a.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Juror corruption of a jury through intimidation or bribery is
a serious federal crime that carries a significant prison sentence.
Speaker 12 (30:14):
In Lucer's press conference Wednesday, he highlighted how Ali flew
to Minnesota from Seattle, where she also has ties.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Dur fifty two, leaving a parking ramp.
Speaker 12 (30:22):
Luger says Ali surveiled the youngest in only juror of color.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Following her home from the courthouse.
Speaker 12 (30:29):
Over three days, Ali allegedly drove by Juror fifty two's
Spring Lake Park home nineteen times. This heat map created
by the FBI shows the amount of time Ali spent
near the juror's home according to her rental car's GPS data.
Directed by four men, including three standing trial for stealing
more than forty million dollars from the federal child nutrition
(30:49):
program during the pandemic. The defendants are accused of a
sophisticated plot to get to Juror fifty two with money,
then detailed instructions on how to convince the rest of
the jury to vote not guilty, primarily by accusing the
government of being racist against the Somali immigrants. After being
driven back to Juror number fifty two's house by this man,
Abdul Karim Fara Ali is accused of bringing one hundred
(31:13):
and twenty thousand dollars cash to the door and promising
Juror fifty two's family member that more money would come
after than not guilty verdict. A scene right out of
a mob movie.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
This is more than just a mob movie. This is
a chilling attack on our system of justice.
Speaker 12 (31:31):
Luger stressed how rare the attempted bribe of a juror
is nationwide.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
But it just doesn't happen in Minnesota.
Speaker 12 (31:38):
In fact, Caro Levin News was only able to find
one other documented case in our state in nineteen sixty one,
during an actual mob trial taking place in Minneapolis involving
the kid can liquor syndicate.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I'm gonna stop this here just because of time. It
does make me wonder like what.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Like I understand why okay, but also why, I mean,
why was this so important to protect these particular individuals?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
What is it that made them again?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Zero in on one juror, the youngest on the panel,
believed to be the only person of color on the panel,
pulled their address, did a complete background check online footprint,
then stalked the individual for days, flew in a courier
from Seattle to drop the Hallmark gift bag stuffed with
(32:32):
one hundred and twenty thousand dollars cash on the relative's doorstep.
Vote not guilty on every count. There's more money coming again,
and the claim would be the prosecution was racist to
go to the juror and flip the other jurors one
by one. Thankfully that juror didn't flinch. All five conspirators
(32:56):
folded and pleaded guilty.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
As of this.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Month, the courier Ladon Ali, who delivered the bribe, still
walks free out on release waiting for sentencing. And yet
you still have individuals out there that just want to
say no, no, no, no no, we just have to
ignore anything but the corruption taking place, we cannot point
(33:21):
to the individuals involved in perpetuating that corruption. Nope, all right,
Tomorrow on the show, we'll talk a lot about Hennepin County.
One hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a city paid
prints sing Along, three point five million in planning for
the future of George Floyd Square without anything being done,
(33:42):
and a proposal of forty million dollars on disparity elimination
within the Hennepin County budget. So if you miss any
portion of today's show, check out the podcast available up
on the iHeart Radio app. Have yourself a fantastic Tuesday.
Be wary of the storm, but do not fret. We
will be back live tomorrow starting at six to six.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Have a great day. Thanks for hanging out this morning.
I appreciate it. Bye.
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