November 24, 2025 • 41 mins
Jon covers a story of a new potential fraud case in MN. Sam distracts Jon with a certain movie playing on TV. Jon and Sam have opinions on potlucks. Jon looks at shaky DFL endorsements of Gov. Walz running for a third term.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Trent Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty one oh three
five FM from the sixty five to one Carpet plus
Next Day Install Studio. I haven't mentioned this this morning.
I being John Justice. Some people call me. It's just
my name in the master control booth, grinning at me
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next door as Sam. Apparently there is a peace deal
between Ukraine and Russia that's on the verge of actually
being successful, to the point where Drudge Report is even
running it as the headline right now, of it being
a real possibility. And if Drudge is saying it, considering
(00:54):
how much they hate Trump, now, can you imagine, Oh
I can, what is the left going to do if
Trump successfully pulls this off? Out of curiosity? All right,
before I get back to I was going through this
story of fraud, unintended death raises new fraud allegation. Well,
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let me actually let me wrap this up first. I
got a couple of talkbacks that rolled, and I'm going
to break my rule of playing more than one from
you listeners of the show. I don't say friends, because
this one's from a foe. There's a level of hypocrisy
that needs to be exposed to. Hey, you're coming up
in just a moments. Let me get back to this.
Caro Levin investigating unintended death raises new fraud allegations in
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Minnesota's Medicaid funded ICs program. And I just want to
add to this that not like you didn't need to
know this or didn't know this already, but all of
this talk, this bluster you hear coming from Democrats regarding
cuts to Medicaid the Obamacare subsidies, of which they're going
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to have to hammer out before the end of the year.
Tom Member will be on the show on Wednesday before
we take our Thanksgiving break for Thursday and Friday. But
all of the talk on Medicaid and the concerns of
Medicaid and people losing their coverage here in Minnesota, it's
only related to Trump and the debate that we see
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on the national stage. You don't hear anything coming from
Walls or any other Minnesota elected Democrats, regardless of it's
federal level or state level, regarding the fraud that's taking
place with Medicaid dollars. Here, you have an individual living,
thirty nine year old Rick Klemmer, living with assisted living
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Ultimate Home Health Services, has been dealing with addiction for
most of his adult life, and yet the claim from
this particular business was that he was being checked on
constantly once a day, but that once a day check
in stands start contrast to too, the twelve hours of
one to one care that Ultimate Home claimed to provide
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every single day, and there was no accountability taking place.
As the requests for funding from the state to these
businesses exploded expanded over the course of just a few years,
DHS under Governor Tim Walls just turned a complete blind eye,
and in this case, this individual may have still been
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alive if what they were billing for actually occurred. But
the mother says that if the Ultimate Health Home Health
Services had actually been seeing her son one to one
for multiple hours each day as they claimed, they could
have called an ambulance in time to save him during
a medical emergency. Now, Caro Levin offered up multiple interview
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requests but did not get a response them at Home
Health Services. Their bare bones website appears to still be
in development with just a placeholder text and images. The
contact us button doesn't work. Its address simply reads Main Street, Anytown, Minnesota. Oh,
(04:17):
It's one of my favorite destinations. As a matter of fact,
I went to Main Street Anytown, Minnesota. Today. They got
a great bed and breakfast there. It's fantastic. The business's
physical location is a small suite in the back of
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a Bloomington strip mall, locked and empty. When Caro Levin
visited during business hours, The listed manager, Authman Mohammad, who
has multiple health related businesses or registered in his name,
Mohammed's and LinkedIn, says he's also a registered nurse working
full time at hand of be in Healthcare. No one
from Ultimate A Home Health Services responded to the numerous
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interview requests to discuss the allegations of fraud. Federal Prosecutor
Joe Thompson recently cited concerns in the ICs program when
announcing the indictments tied to Cara Levin's earlier fraud expose
as of fly by night companies plundering the state's Medicaid system.
The level of fraud in these programs is staggering, said Thompson. Now,
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the agency is not confirmed if Ultimate Home Health Services
is one of the newly suspended providers. As we talked
about on the show. Governor Tim Walls in his concern
now that he has for fraud, it did stop payments
to some fourteen different providers. These were third party pre
payment billing audit audits for fourteen high risk Medicaid programs.
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ICs was among them. For Mickey Kramer, the mother of
those policy moves come too late. Rick's case, she believes,
is the human cost of alleged fraud in a system
designed to support the vulnerable, which left her son to
die alone. These vulnerable people need help, she said, you're
billing for them, they give them the help, and if
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you're not, that's fraud, which brings us back to the
story of the morning and how he got here. We're
gonna lay this back out again for those that are
just arriving on the show and missed the first two hours,
which you can get caught up on the podcast available
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and make Twin Cities News Talk number one on your
presets Alpha News. Lengthy piece massive fraud by Somali immigrants
in Minnesota hands the gop of political hammer against the
liberal programs, and we'll get into walls and his declining
support outside the Twin Cities is the point of concern
for dfllers. I'd say fifty to fifty right now, whether
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or not Governor Tim Willson ends up actually being the
nominee for governor heading into next year. Now, I'm gonna
break my rule. I want to play another comment here
from Eric. I don't know what title to give Eric,
I mean follow the show. I don't know. The guy's
all over the place, but this may be one of
the last times you hear from him in a while.
If you heard his comment earlier, he was questioning why
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individuals elected officials like Walter Hudson would still go and
essentially break bread for lack of a better way to
describe it, with leaders within the Somali community based off
of the controversy relating to fraud. And as we've talked
about on the show, listen, if you immigrated here legally,
you are here legally, and you were abiding by the law,
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then you are not a part of this conversation relating
to the broader issue of fraud here in Minnesota that
is being perpetuated mostly by the Somali community. So Eric
was asking, well, why why is Walter doing this? Why
is he still getting involved in talking with Samali leaders?
And then he goes and Lisa comment like this.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Hey's Zach for Brainerd again, John, Please play some voicemails
from Maga. I know you're getting some good ones, juicy ones,
people asking to deport all Somalians or even worse to
them from Maga who has never even probably seen a
Somalian person, much less talk to them or never goes
to the Twin Cities because their too is frightened. So yeah,
(08:20):
let's hear the real voicemails you're getting out these cherry picked,
little dumpling ones. Please.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I don't have any to share because nobody's said that.
The only individuals that have even alluded to anything like that,
Eric are you and FO of the show Phil when
he said that all Europeans should be deported, happy to
disappoint you. And I think that's probably going to be
the last time in a long time that you get
played on the station because I simply don't believe that
(08:48):
you actually are a real person in terms of the
commentary that you want to provide on the show. As
I've mentioned many times, I want to hear from those
that don't agree with me. It makes for a more
interesting conversation and show. But that being said, if you're
being disingenuous or hypocritical in your commentary, no, then I'm
not going to go and give you any attention. So
(09:11):
I just kind of wanted to lay that out for
those that are listening, while you may not be hearing
from him in a while. I kicked off of the
show this morning talking about the concern over the ending
of the temporary protected status here in Minnesota, sharing with
you a story about how there was a potluck over
this whole issue that took place over the weekend. So
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let's go here.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Something tells me Chief O'Hara was not invited to the
potlark Probably.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Not, But if he was, I mean that lot would
have been hinging on whatever dish he brought to that potluck.
So I'm a little been a huge fan of potlucks.
That's not really been I don't. I don't. I mean,
I love food, there's just always something weird about a potluck,
and people bring can get food of their own, I don't.
(10:01):
I don't know as opposed to it being catered. I'm
probably in the minority. Do you have any sort of
hard stance to say I'm on potlucks in general.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah, well, I guess, like you said, it depends on
the setting for me, like a workplace pot luck, even
that's a little questionable. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
do potlucks in general myself.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yes, I don't know. I just never. Yeah, I do
have one specific circumstance. When I was a kid going
to church, we had a pot luck, and I remember
that I got really really sick with food poisoning afterwards,
to the to the point where I could not tell you,
like anything else specific around like the year that that happened,
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But I remember getting sick off of that potluck. Absolutely.
All right, let's go here.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Good morning, John pastor Michael here or your fellow Italian.
We're not offenive because when we think of the Italian mafia,
we think of insane violence. Right, I don't take it personal.
These folks have got to get real. We need a
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Frank Reagan blue Bloods type of Please Commissioner, please achieve,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Have a great day. Thank you so much for the
Talkbackers are brought to you by Lindahl Real to you.
We'll get some more of those coming up. We'll also
dive into Walls and his declining support in the Twin Cities,
as are the fraud cases that have unfolded during his tenure.
A lengthy piece from the Star Tribune, It's all coming
up on Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and
(11:36):
one O three five FM.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Good morning, and I love your show kt LKAM Minneapolis
coverage you could count off from the sixty five one
carpas plus home of the Next Day Installs Studios, FM
one O three point five. I'm kt OLKAM eleven thirty Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I'm Saint Paul, Hey.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
John, love the show.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
My main rule with Potlucks is if I know you
have a cat, I ain't eaten anything you make because
I know that cat is all over your counter.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Never gonna happen. Have a great day, man, Okay, But
the question is, how do you know they have a cat?
Like are you dipping into the string being castro and
be like, hold on you who made this? You? You
got a cat? All right? You're good? Twin City's News
(12:33):
Talk from the sixty five to one carpet, Next Day
Install Studios. So Sam informed me a moment ago that
what channel are you watching?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
What channel is that there's I'm not watching actively, but
it's no.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I wasn't trying. I was trying to throw you out
of the bus. I know yet. So you have that
f X on in the Master Control booth and they're
showing a new hope for a Star Wars movie. So
I had moved over to uh, I moved over to watch.
I don't know if you watch, if you saw me,
but I was actually doing the dialogue out loud as
it was going on, because I note the movie that well.
(13:08):
But you mentioned that you were somewhat surprised. Maybe you
hadn't noticed before that Greedo was there at the Millennium
Falcon at moss Isley before they took off, when they
first leave in the in the in the falcon, before
the Stormtroopers arrive, and I was letting I was letting Sam, No,
there's actually multiple Greedo's there, which is actually kind offensive
because they do have different names, So to just call
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them all Greedo, we don't want to do that. We
don't want to cast dispersion on all the individuals that
happened to go and look like Greedo. But there are
multiple individuals that look like Greedo wearing the say the
Rhodidians wearing the same outfit as Greedo. This was after
he was shot.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
What's the you said, the d learn some new every
day job.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, may have gotten that wrong. I'm ninety nine percent sure.
I'm not going to look it up, right, Roddion, Yeah,
I don't know. Like I said, I rarely ever go
in mispronounced things on this show. I did have a
couple of comments that rolled in regarding Eric from up North,
Good morning John.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
It's funny when I've been talking to my liberal friends
or seeing their posts on Facebook, they attribute the most wild, erratic, hateful,
mentally disturbed views to conservatives, And that's not what we
think about at all or how we treat people. It's
one of those things is that's how their brain works,
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that's how they think about things, and they relate that
to conservatives. That's not how we operate though.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, and I've seen Listen, I've seen people online making
comments like Eric was assuming I was getting talkbacks on
the show online, but those are separate online. If they're
commenting on my stuff, I obviously don't agree with it.
I'm not going to go and amplify it. But he
was saying, hey, play those talkbacks from your listeners saying
that every single individual should be supported, and I have
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not received any of those via the talk back of
this morning.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
Good Morning John. One thing I haven't been hearing on
the news, the mainstream news, is that they keep reporting
that the temporary protective status has been.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Going to be revoked.
Speaker 10 (15:15):
But they say there's no reason given by the president,
and that's not true. There's a massive reason related to
this fraud. And I guess we're preaching to the choir,
but they really are are hiding that fact.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, they're conveniently ignoring that fact. It's been in place
since for like some thirty four years. I mean I
talked back previously, and I think they made a good point.
There are plenty of individuals who traveled to and from
Somalia all the time. Ilhan Omar talks about this all
the time. You could grab a montage ten minutes long,
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easy of ilhan Omar talking about her allegiance. Just am
all yet so fine's her opinion, but also you know,
wanting to one day go back there in traveling back
and forth. So yeah, the temporary protected status probably wasn't
going to be renewed to next year.
Speaker 11 (16:07):
Anyways, John, this guy, Eric and Phil, you know they're
they're kind of doing what they're accusing MAGA doing, generalizing
all Trump supporters as white nationalists or white supremacists or whatever.
But ninety nine point nine percent of MAGA is make
America great again. We're not.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
We don't care what race.
Speaker 11 (16:29):
Color, creed you are. If you're breaking the law and
stealing money from everybody and come in here illegally, you
got a goal. Whether you're from Sweden, Russia or small Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
No, absolutely, oh hell yeah, there you go. On Thursday,
the seventy seventh defendant in the food welfare program scheme
of Feeding Our Future was indicted, and his case gives
a sense of how systemic and organized the fraud schemes
have been. Federal prosecutors said that Osman Kamara, no relation
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to ak it's a c AKS with a K, forty
five years old, was indicted on nine charges alleging fraud
federal programs, bribery, and money laundering. Here's a bit of
the story from Fox nine to Grow.
Speaker 12 (17:19):
On Thursday, the Department of Justice filed a nine count
indictment again against Usman Kamara. The forty five year old
now charged with wire fraud, bribery, and money laundering. Federal
prosecutors say that he owned a small grocery store in
North Minneapolis and claimed to be feeding one thousand kids
a day, seven days a week during the pandemic. Kamara,
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who allegedly claimed more than a million dollars in reimbursements,
sent about one hundred thousand dollars overseas, and he is
just the latest to be charged. Earlier this year, Amy Bach,
the executive director and founder of Feeding Our Future, was
convicted of orchestrating the entire fraud scheme following a six
week trial, and only took jurors five hours to convict
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Bach and her co defendants Salim said they were guilty
on all counts, including conspiracy, wire fraud, and bribery. Said
was one of many meal site operators who collected millions
in federal assistance. He claimed have falsely claimed to be
serving meals to as many as sixty thousand kids each day.
Little perspective, that is twice the number of students enrolled
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in the entire Minneapolis public school district. Of the seventy
seven people now charged in connection with Feeding Our future.
Fifty six have pled guilty to their role in the scheme,
and seven others have been convicted in two separate trials.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Back to you, yeah, and again the story there from
Fox nine on this latest indictment, Kamara, I get claim
to have served more than three one hundred thousand meals
to children, So that's a lot of food. That's one
big pot. Look, and since amy Bach's name was invoked here,
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let me make this point. We'll get to your talk
back of the day coming up in just a moment
here on Twin City's News Talk. But if the left
doesn't like the calling out of specific demographics relating to
these issues in what is really a weekly expanding issue
relating to fraud, they only have themselves to blame. How
many times did the Star Tribune, as just one example
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of many, to the point where it became a parody
on the show. How many times did the Star Tribune
mention that feeding our future, feeding our fraud ring leader
Amy Bach was white? Like every time they wrote an
article amy Bach who is white? It wasn't relevant except
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for the fact that in doing so, the strip was
intentionally trying to shield other demographics from scrutiny. And therein
lies another issue in all of this, the question of
why did Governor Tim Walls and DHS ignore the dramatic
increases year over year in fronting requests to the state
in these mostly Democrat created programs. The answer seems pretty
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clear now they were too cowardly to speak up for
fear of the same kind of irrational criticism that Trump
is now facing. To that point, it's why many in
the DFL are questioning whether or not Governor Tim Walls
still has a shot to win next year. We'll dive
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into this lengthy piece from the Star Tribune. We'll get
back to more of your talkbacks and again your talk
back of the day coming up on Twin City's News
Talk AM eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.
And what's called a Trump derangement problem? Have you heard
about that problem?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Now?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
We have dueling talkbacks over the foes of the show
this morning on Twin City's News Talk from the sixty
five to one Carpet plus Next Day Install Studios.
Speaker 13 (20:58):
Hey John, I'm Sam this up North.
Speaker 14 (21:00):
John.
Speaker 13 (21:00):
Thanks so much for holding off on playing talkbacks from
Eric from BRAINERD. They're exhausting. He has no coach and argument.
It's the same old TDS statements on full display. And Eric,
I live forty miles away from BRAINERD and I tell
you what, you're probably one of those five people that
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protest on the weekends with the anti Ice and anti
Trump signs.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 15 (21:30):
I'm reaching out to ask you to reconsider your decision
to no longer play Eric the fakes talkbacks.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We need to hear what Eric the Fake has to say.
Speaker 15 (21:39):
That way we can point out what exists on the
left and how they try to paint MAGA in a
certain light, which you pointed out today when he claimed
there were loads of talkbacks when actually there weren't. Yeah,
please reconsider Eric the Fake.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well, I see, this is the struggle. This is the struggle.
I did not have any struggle figuring out what was
going to be the talk back of the day. It's
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Roodians as a greedo? Okay, in my defense, I didn't.
(22:15):
That was Sam He's the one that did that. In
his defense, he did it unknowingly. I don't think he
realized the culture of the Rhodians at the time, and
the fact that not all of them are. They're not
all named Gredo, even though they may dress like him.
So much about Star Wars, I thought I knew, John.
(22:37):
That is your talk back of the day for as
ridiculous as it is this morning here on twin City's
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dot com. Speaking of ridiculous, we actually did get a
few more talkbacks relating to potlucks if you missed it.
We kicked off the show this morning that there was
so much panic over President Donald Trump by ending the
temporary protected status. By the way many of you have
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pointed out, and I'll do it again here on twin
City's News Talk, it's in the name temporary. So much
concerned that they actually held a pot luck over the
weekend to address the issue.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Hey, John, so talking about community food. In my younger
married years, sister in law was going to bring in
pie and chips, and when she and her husband arrived,
it was an open bag of chips and a pie
with a slice missing. Nice. I just looked at him
and said, hey, thanks for the used food.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Gross By Now, when you say your younger married years,
does that mean you were married when you were younger
and you're not anymore, or just meant when you were
younger and you were married. I'm assuming when he was
married and he was younger, not like just curious. I
just kind of caught my attention morning John.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
My brother in law is a microbiologist, and he worked
primarily investigating food borne illnesses. He said, potlucks are notorious
for food poisoning.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, it hasn't been talked about a lot in the
UH in the grand scheme of everything that we've been
covering as of late, but I do believe the last
report that came out from COVID determined that it did
start with the potluck, specifically string Bean Castle. By the way,
can you can you tell that I'm not a big
fan of streaming cast role since I must have messaged
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it like three times I caught that.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I will say I did work for a company not
far from here that was a restaurant by work for
the parent company. Okay, and we had a potluck one
time and somebody had pizzas delivered from a competitor.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Obbs. Yeah, I can't make it a job. You don't
want to, you don't want to do that. Yeah, I
don't know exactly what the intent was from Bonzo in
this talkback, but I'm gonna go ahead and share it
with you anyways. From the iHeartRadio app brought to you
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by Lindall Realty.
Speaker 16 (25:07):
Oh, John Mauga is melting because of that.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Marjorie Taylor Green through a bucket of water on The
Witch Hunter done, oh no, no, no, Like I get
the context. Like I get it, and I do appreciate
the fact that he is trying to be topical considering
that Wicked for Good came out of the weekend. Did
not go and see it. By the way, I watched
the first one when it came out streaming. He was
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fine enough. I may watch the next one. I don't
know what's happened to all the actresses in that movie, though,
it is like ravage to all of them. Apparently, if
you want to lose weight, it's not the semi glue
tide injections. Make sure you're a part of the cast
of Wicked. That's like your best weight loss program. Ever.
They all just look emaciated. It's frightening, you know what.
(25:55):
You're fascinating to talk to. Thanks all right, let's go here,
say Senator Judy Seeberger may face a tough re election
next year after winning her previous race by a few
one hundred votes. But it's the top of the ticket
that she's worried about. Oh no, you know he's the
top of the ticket. Yeah, she says. She she's trying
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to have her cake at the potluck and eat it
too with these statements. Sieburger dfl out of Afton says,
I have some concerns and I'm not alone of Governor
Tim Walls and has run for a third term. A
lot of us have sort of talked about it are
hoping that it's the right decision. Even so, she called
Walls a phenomenal partner and said she is supporting his bid. Okay,
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Seburger isn't the only Democrat navigating this tension. Senator Bob
excuse me. Rob Kupek dfl out of Morehead praised Walls's
achievements while expressing concern about his decision to run again.
We're in a time in American history where voters are
just very, very fickle, Kupek said, noting that dynamic doesn't
always bode well for a candidate seeking a third term.
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The fact that the Star Tribune ran this story at
all and then tells you that Walls is in trouble.
Who would replace him is the question? Right now. I
have an interesting little theory on this I'll share with
you in a moment. Let's work through some more of
this piece. Though publicly and privately, a number of Democrats
are questioning whether Walls and his attempt to become the
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first Minnesota governor to win three consecutive four year terms
could endanger their own party's hold on the office, as
he faces declining support outside the metro and scrutiny for
fraud cases during his administration. Some even where it could
affect other down ballot races. All four state wide offices
senate control of the legislature of the state's eight seats
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in Congress are all on the ballot next fall. At
the same time, many other Democrats are rallying behind Walls,
saying he's the party's standard bearer and has proven his
doubters wrong before. State Senator Matt Klein DFL Mendota Heights,
who's running for Congress, said to get re elected after
you shut down restaurants, it's a pretty big accomplishment. So
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is that an admission by the way that Walls's COVID
policy stunk seems like it's the backhanded compliment. Democrats believe
the political wins could again favor them heading into the
first mid term election of Trump's second term, but in
Minnesota it's unclear if next year's election will be as
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much of a referendum on Trump as on Walls. The
governor's campaign is making the case that Walls is the
leader Democrats need to counter the President. The DFL governor's
support has eroded outside this twin cities, with a June
Minnesota Star Tribune polling showing at least six and ten
voters outside Ennepen and Ramsey counties disapproved of his performance.
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Senator Nick Frantz, campaign chair for the Minute So to
Sendate DFL Caucus, said we have voters in Greater Minnesota
asking about a Wall's third term. Again, that's a very
sort of you know, they're asking about it. They're curious,
is that really the guy that we want to that
we want to run and just I'm not sure. Kupek,
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who won his race by five percentage points in twenty
twenty two, had a more pointed critique of Walls. He
said he wishes Walls would have spent more time in
Greater Minnesota in recent years. He knows how to talk
to rural voters, does he, though. I mean, you know,
the whole rocks and cows thing, and I would tend to,
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you know, push back on that a bit red and blue,
and there's.
Speaker 14 (29:43):
All that red across there. Democrats go into depression over it.
It's mostly rocks and cows that are in that red area.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah. Another point of discomform for some Democrats centers on
the fraud cases that have unfolded during Walls' tenure. It
took halfway through this entire Star Tribute article to get
to the relevant info, the whole reason why they put
this up in the first place. Such a joke. Frosters
have stolen hundreds of millions of dollars state run programs
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in recent years. Walls and his administration have taken aggressive
steps recently to tamp down on fraud after several new indictments.
And again I'll just say, have they no, I mean really,
but Republicans and even some Democrats to think it's a
(30:32):
liability for the administration. I hope we have a DFL primary.
This is according to Minneapolis City Council member Jason Chavez
Democrats Socialists in a social media post, the Walls administration
being riddled with fraud doesn't give me confidence. It's a
top of the ticket liability. Like Chavez has any room
to talk, she'll we get into the violence, interrupters and
(30:52):
the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent without having to
show any sort of success or metrics. Just out of curiosity,
some dfllers are trying to address the issue of fraud directly,
even if doing so puts an unflattering spotlight on the
Walls administration. Senator Heather Gustinsen Vadnus Heights dfller has been
handing out camp campaign flyers with the blunt message while
(31:14):
some in power look the other way when fraud happens.
I don't oo. She should put shaggy on those flyers
and just be like what me, You're welcome. Melinda asked
about the line, Gustinsen said, I'm putting all of my
energy on my focus into my district, and sometimes that
(31:37):
means I need to put my districts before my party. Okay.
Despite some concerns with the rank and file Democrat lawmakers,
House DFL leader and socket wrenches. Zach Stevenson and Senate
Majority Leader Aaron Murphy remained publicly confident that having Walls
at the top of the ticket is a good thing.
House dfllers won the majority both times that Tim Walls
(31:58):
was our nominee for governor, and I have no doubt
we will do it again next fall. Stevenson said in
a statement, no talk about the fraud. We'll just ignore
all the negatives. Don't care about anything other than winning. Also,
Soca Rench DFL House a majority leader who's making another
run for state House. Ryan Winkler said, my neighbors here
(32:20):
in Golden Valley are perfectly happy with Tim Wallas's governor. Well, okay, Well,
if Winkler's neighbors are happy, then I guess it's just
just I should just stop talking about it. Winkler said
Democrats will always pay a price if government is not
running like it should. But Republicans, he said, we'll have
(32:41):
to answer next year for the chaos and corruption coming
out of Washington DC. And again, the only reason there's
any chaos is because the Democrats are causing it. And
exactly what corruption is he talking about? Demolishing the East
winging is not corruption en ding TPS is not correction.
(33:02):
There have been no illegal orders. So I go on.
Minnesota DFL A chair Richard Carlbaum, while this is like
the trifecta of soccert wrenches, is already hammering Republicans who
support Trump, including candidates for governor, who he says, enable
a lawless president to run roughshot over Minnesotan's what a
stupid statement. By the way, I'm gonna grab that from
Phil What has he done this lawless? I did go
(33:29):
and look, by the way, because Carlbaum likes to get
really brave on x, he hasn't posted anything for the
past few days. It's rather interesting, certainly not since everything
has erupted. It's been dominating the news headlines and commentary
on this show, Geo wonder what former state DFL chair
Michael Erlandson said. He thinks the concerns about the federal issues,
(33:50):
a sputtering economy, to tarrifs, and talk about restarting nuclear
testing will be on the top of mind for voters
next year more so than the worries about a walls. Okay, dude,
you you stick with that, you you just you just
roll with that. I'm ready to get beat erland Er
Erlinson said Walls needs to address the ongoing problem of
(34:12):
fraud in state programs in a way that satisfies Minnesotan's
If you know how you can satisfy Minnesotans with this,
you just you start holding people accountable. You make sure
you have individuals running dhs that actually go in question
when the amount of money being requested by these programs
(34:34):
explodes in demand without just going humph, I guess these
programs are really popular. We were spending like six million
this year, and like two years later it's like one
hundred million, point because people really just like this stuff.
Cut the checks. Erlinson said it's possible Walls could face
a challenge from within his own party at the state's
(34:56):
DFL convention. Whether it's a serious challenge or not, I
think will depend on how the administration handles all of
these ongoing fraud of challenges. He said, there's an interesting parallel,
by the way, to what happened with Joe Biden. Like
fraud to Walls is what cognitive decline was for Joe Biden.
(35:17):
Like the Left just ignored it, ignored it, ignored it
until they simply could not ignore it any any longer.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I think now is a good time as as any
to you know, maybe help walls out. I'm and hammering
and hammering him kind of hard this morning, and can
play his campaign ad. Although it's the remix.
Speaker 16 (35:37):
I've been to every corner of Minnesota and there's nothing
like it.
Speaker 14 (35:41):
See those red and blue and there's all that red
across there. Democrats go into depression over it. It's mostly
rocks and cows that are in that red area.
Speaker 16 (35:50):
I've seen how we help each other through the hard times.
But I've not been perfect, and I'm a knucklehead at times.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
But it's in these moments we have to come together.
Speaker 16 (35:58):
I called Donald Trump a one of dictator. You bully
the shout of him, and I'll never stop fighting to
protect us from the chaos, corruption and cruelty coming out
of Washington. Well, maybe it's time for us to be
a little meaner.
Speaker 17 (36:10):
May his fat ankles find something today.
Speaker 16 (36:13):
We do not have the luxury to fight amongst ourselves.
Why that thing sets in the White House. We can't lose, hope,
because I've seen what we can do when we work together.
Speaker 17 (36:24):
Think of how easy it would be to be a
damn Republican.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Oh what should I wear today?
Speaker 16 (36:28):
This stupid freaking red hat cutting taxes for the middle class.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
By the way, I never pointed this out before, but
there's a moment and I can't back it up, but
there's a moment where he does the Republicans figure you
hear this one female voice way in the background go yeah,
crats me up time.
Speaker 16 (36:46):
However, there are also taxes going up for most Minnesotans
while also making the largest investments in public safety.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
One of the few tweets we've had from any kind
of official source site, and in my opinion, that is inexcusable.
We have reached out to the governor. We are getting
no response tonight.
Speaker 16 (37:04):
We've raised graduation rates to the highest ever.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Most Minnesota students are frolling behind state standards in math,
and only about fifty percent of students are proficient in reading.
Speaker 16 (37:15):
Crack down on fraud and protect our tax dollars.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Bribes, falsified records, and taxpayers charged to help dead people
find housing.
Speaker 11 (37:22):
Thousands of dollars for work that's not being done, fake meetings,
they just build us for nothing.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Forged names, homeless veterans, dead people build phantom services.
Speaker 16 (37:33):
For that fourteen thousand you got what nothing. Now I'm
hitting the road to listen to you and talk about
our future.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
You get up in the morning and you doom scroll
through things.
Speaker 17 (37:43):
And although I will say this, the last few days
you woke up thinking there might be news, just saying
there will be news sometimes just so you know there
will be news.
Speaker 16 (37:53):
I'm ready to get beats, drenching heart or something.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Let's go here. Speaking of the economy, I've been holding
on to this for a bit, but i want to
share it with you. Treasury Secretary Scott Bescent set on
Sunday that the economy isn't headed for a large scale recession,
despite certain sectors showing recessions. Recess only cow recessionary signs.
(38:24):
That's a tough one. You got it this later in
the show recessionary sides rock band or racehorse neither neither
Because I can't pronounce it, he said, big picture. He
was asked, big picture, mister secretary, you said earlier this month,
(38:45):
and I'm gonna quote you. I think there are sectors
of the economy that are in recession. Like Kevin Hasset,
the Director of the National Economic Council, said we're starting
to see pockets of the economy they look like they
might be in recession, and Beset replied, well, clearly housing
has been struggling, so interest rate sensitive sectors have been
(39:05):
in recession. The Secretary then noted the Democrat led forty
three day government shutdown wasn't helpful either to the economy,
but he did say that he was very optimistic heading
into twenty twenty six. We've set the table for a strong,
non inflationary growth economy. As a matter of fact, I
have a clip here. This goes back to last weekend
(39:26):
on Fox News. I believe he was talking with Maria
barter Romo and he was discussing the Treasury secretary expectations
heading into next year. How long will that take.
Speaker 18 (39:35):
I think we are going to see a substantial acceleration
in the economy in the first second quarter. And I
think we are also we're already seeing on many prices,
as I said, bending that curved down and the increase
in real incomes. I think Americans are going to feel
(39:55):
it in the first quarter, second quarter. I think twenty
twenty six, thanks to President Trump's signature plans, is going
to be a great year for working Americans.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
For the markets.
Speaker 18 (40:07):
I call it parallel prosperity. Main Street and Wall Street
can both do great, But I think Main Street's going
to have a great year in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Six, and it would make it would make sense heading
into an election cycle and obviously be beneficial for Republicans
heading into the midterms if that were to take place.
All right, let's wrap up here with a couple of
year comments as we close out Monday shows, specifically regarding potlucks.
Speaker 8 (40:32):
Boring John Green bean castle is bad, but corre up
in Minnesota, green yellow with parrot shavings.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I'd actually try that.
Speaker 19 (40:41):
I like you, Jella, do do do Do Do Do
Do Do Do Do. This is Russ from CNN reporting
live from the Minneapolis Potlook, where police chef Bryan O'Hara
has brought macaroni salad with vegetables. We all know that
he will not be long for this position after that move.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Well played, Russ, Well well played. If you missed any
portion of today's show, you definitely want to check out
the podcast. It'll be available up on the iHeart Radio
app tomorrow. On the show, David Cartenstein Ross, We're gonna
get our artificial intelligence conversation on that'll happen at six
point thirty. The show gets underwag just after six o'clock.
(41:23):
Thanks Sam, thank you for listening, and I'll talk to
you guys tomorrow morning. Enjoy the rest of your Monday,
Bay
Trent Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty one oh three
five FM from the sixty five to one Carpet plus
Next Day Install Studio. I haven't mentioned this this morning.
I being John Justice. Some people call me. It's just
my name in the master control booth, grinning at me
(00:33):
next door as Sam. Apparently there is a peace deal
between Ukraine and Russia that's on the verge of actually
being successful, to the point where Drudge Report is even
running it as the headline right now, of it being
a real possibility. And if Drudge is saying it, considering
(00:54):
how much they hate Trump, now, can you imagine, Oh
I can, what is the left going to do if
Trump successfully pulls this off? Out of curiosity? All right,
before I get back to I was going through this
story of fraud, unintended death raises new fraud allegation. Well,
(01:17):
let me actually let me wrap this up first. I
got a couple of talkbacks that rolled, and I'm going
to break my rule of playing more than one from
you listeners of the show. I don't say friends, because
this one's from a foe. There's a level of hypocrisy
that needs to be exposed to. Hey, you're coming up
in just a moments. Let me get back to this.
Caro Levin investigating unintended death raises new fraud allegations in
(01:40):
Minnesota's Medicaid funded ICs program. And I just want to
add to this that not like you didn't need to
know this or didn't know this already, but all of
this talk, this bluster you hear coming from Democrats regarding
cuts to Medicaid the Obamacare subsidies, of which they're going
(02:01):
to have to hammer out before the end of the year.
Tom Member will be on the show on Wednesday before
we take our Thanksgiving break for Thursday and Friday. But
all of the talk on Medicaid and the concerns of
Medicaid and people losing their coverage here in Minnesota, it's
only related to Trump and the debate that we see
(02:22):
on the national stage. You don't hear anything coming from
Walls or any other Minnesota elected Democrats, regardless of it's
federal level or state level, regarding the fraud that's taking
place with Medicaid dollars. Here, you have an individual living,
thirty nine year old Rick Klemmer, living with assisted living
(02:43):
Ultimate Home Health Services, has been dealing with addiction for
most of his adult life, and yet the claim from
this particular business was that he was being checked on
constantly once a day, but that once a day check
in stands start contrast to too, the twelve hours of
one to one care that Ultimate Home claimed to provide
(03:07):
every single day, and there was no accountability taking place.
As the requests for funding from the state to these
businesses exploded expanded over the course of just a few years,
DHS under Governor Tim Walls just turned a complete blind eye,
and in this case, this individual may have still been
(03:29):
alive if what they were billing for actually occurred. But
the mother says that if the Ultimate Health Home Health
Services had actually been seeing her son one to one
for multiple hours each day as they claimed, they could
have called an ambulance in time to save him during
a medical emergency. Now, Caro Levin offered up multiple interview
(03:57):
requests but did not get a response them at Home
Health Services. Their bare bones website appears to still be
in development with just a placeholder text and images. The
contact us button doesn't work. Its address simply reads Main Street, Anytown, Minnesota. Oh,
(04:17):
It's one of my favorite destinations. As a matter of fact,
I went to Main Street Anytown, Minnesota. Today. They got
a great bed and breakfast there. It's fantastic. The business's
physical location is a small suite in the back of
(04:40):
a Bloomington strip mall, locked and empty. When Caro Levin
visited during business hours, The listed manager, Authman Mohammad, who
has multiple health related businesses or registered in his name,
Mohammed's and LinkedIn, says he's also a registered nurse working
full time at hand of be in Healthcare. No one
from Ultimate A Home Health Services responded to the numerous
(05:03):
interview requests to discuss the allegations of fraud. Federal Prosecutor
Joe Thompson recently cited concerns in the ICs program when
announcing the indictments tied to Cara Levin's earlier fraud expose
as of fly by night companies plundering the state's Medicaid system.
The level of fraud in these programs is staggering, said Thompson. Now,
(05:27):
the agency is not confirmed if Ultimate Home Health Services
is one of the newly suspended providers. As we talked
about on the show. Governor Tim Walls in his concern
now that he has for fraud, it did stop payments
to some fourteen different providers. These were third party pre
payment billing audit audits for fourteen high risk Medicaid programs.
(05:50):
ICs was among them. For Mickey Kramer, the mother of
those policy moves come too late. Rick's case, she believes,
is the human cost of alleged fraud in a system
designed to support the vulnerable, which left her son to
die alone. These vulnerable people need help, she said, you're
billing for them, they give them the help, and if
(06:11):
you're not, that's fraud, which brings us back to the
story of the morning and how he got here. We're
gonna lay this back out again for those that are
just arriving on the show and missed the first two hours,
which you can get caught up on the podcast available
on the iHeartRadio app, and be sure you update the
iHeartRadio app. Take advantage of all the latest of features
(06:32):
and make Twin Cities News Talk number one on your
presets Alpha News. Lengthy piece massive fraud by Somali immigrants
in Minnesota hands the gop of political hammer against the
liberal programs, and we'll get into walls and his declining
support outside the Twin Cities is the point of concern
for dfllers. I'd say fifty to fifty right now, whether
(06:53):
or not Governor Tim Willson ends up actually being the
nominee for governor heading into next year. Now, I'm gonna
break my rule. I want to play another comment here
from Eric. I don't know what title to give Eric,
I mean follow the show. I don't know. The guy's
all over the place, but this may be one of
the last times you hear from him in a while.
If you heard his comment earlier, he was questioning why
(07:15):
individuals elected officials like Walter Hudson would still go and
essentially break bread for lack of a better way to
describe it, with leaders within the Somali community based off
of the controversy relating to fraud. And as we've talked
about on the show, listen, if you immigrated here legally,
you are here legally, and you were abiding by the law,
(07:37):
then you are not a part of this conversation relating
to the broader issue of fraud here in Minnesota that
is being perpetuated mostly by the Somali community. So Eric
was asking, well, why why is Walter doing this? Why
is he still getting involved in talking with Samali leaders?
And then he goes and Lisa comment like this.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Hey's Zach for Brainerd again, John, Please play some voicemails
from Maga. I know you're getting some good ones, juicy ones,
people asking to deport all Somalians or even worse to
them from Maga who has never even probably seen a
Somalian person, much less talk to them or never goes
to the Twin Cities because their too is frightened. So yeah,
(08:20):
let's hear the real voicemails you're getting out these cherry picked,
little dumpling ones. Please.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I don't have any to share because nobody's said that.
The only individuals that have even alluded to anything like that,
Eric are you and FO of the show Phil when
he said that all Europeans should be deported, happy to
disappoint you. And I think that's probably going to be
the last time in a long time that you get
played on the station because I simply don't believe that
(08:48):
you actually are a real person in terms of the
commentary that you want to provide on the show. As
I've mentioned many times, I want to hear from those
that don't agree with me. It makes for a more
interesting conversation and show. But that being said, if you're
being disingenuous or hypocritical in your commentary, no, then I'm
not going to go and give you any attention. So
(09:11):
I just kind of wanted to lay that out for
those that are listening, while you may not be hearing
from him in a while. I kicked off of the
show this morning talking about the concern over the ending
of the temporary protected status here in Minnesota, sharing with
you a story about how there was a potluck over
this whole issue that took place over the weekend. So
(09:33):
let's go here.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Something tells me Chief O'Hara was not invited to the
potlark Probably.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Not, But if he was, I mean that lot would
have been hinging on whatever dish he brought to that potluck.
So I'm a little been a huge fan of potlucks.
That's not really been I don't. I don't. I mean,
I love food, there's just always something weird about a potluck,
and people bring can get food of their own, I don't.
(10:01):
I don't know as opposed to it being catered. I'm
probably in the minority. Do you have any sort of
hard stance to say I'm on potlucks in general.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah, well, I guess, like you said, it depends on
the setting for me, like a workplace pot luck, even
that's a little questionable. Yeah, I don't know. I don't
do potlucks in general myself.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yes, I don't know. I just never. Yeah, I do
have one specific circumstance. When I was a kid going
to church, we had a pot luck, and I remember
that I got really really sick with food poisoning afterwards,
to the to the point where I could not tell you,
like anything else specific around like the year that that happened,
(10:40):
But I remember getting sick off of that potluck. Absolutely.
All right, let's go here.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Good morning, John pastor Michael here or your fellow Italian.
We're not offenive because when we think of the Italian mafia,
we think of insane violence. Right, I don't take it personal.
These folks have got to get real. We need a
(11:08):
Frank Reagan blue Bloods type of Please Commissioner, please achieve,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Have a great day. Thank you so much for the
Talkbackers are brought to you by Lindahl Real to you.
We'll get some more of those coming up. We'll also
dive into Walls and his declining support in the Twin Cities,
as are the fraud cases that have unfolded during his tenure.
A lengthy piece from the Star Tribune, It's all coming
up on Twin Cities News Talk AM eleven thirty and
(11:36):
one O three five FM.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Good morning, and I love your show kt LKAM Minneapolis
coverage you could count off from the sixty five one
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one O three point five. I'm kt OLKAM eleven thirty Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I'm Saint Paul, Hey.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
John, love the show.
Speaker 8 (12:01):
My main rule with Potlucks is if I know you
have a cat, I ain't eaten anything you make because
I know that cat is all over your counter.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Never gonna happen. Have a great day, man, Okay, But
the question is, how do you know they have a cat?
Like are you dipping into the string being castro and
be like, hold on you who made this? You? You
got a cat? All right? You're good? Twin City's News
(12:33):
Talk from the sixty five to one carpet, Next Day
Install Studios. So Sam informed me a moment ago that
what channel are you watching?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
What channel is that there's I'm not watching actively, but
it's no.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I wasn't trying. I was trying to throw you out
of the bus. I know yet. So you have that
f X on in the Master Control booth and they're
showing a new hope for a Star Wars movie. So
I had moved over to uh, I moved over to watch.
I don't know if you watch, if you saw me,
but I was actually doing the dialogue out loud as
it was going on, because I note the movie that well.
(13:08):
But you mentioned that you were somewhat surprised. Maybe you
hadn't noticed before that Greedo was there at the Millennium
Falcon at moss Isley before they took off, when they
first leave in the in the in the falcon, before
the Stormtroopers arrive, and I was letting I was letting Sam, No,
there's actually multiple Greedo's there, which is actually kind offensive
because they do have different names, So to just call
(13:30):
them all Greedo, we don't want to do that. We
don't want to cast dispersion on all the individuals that
happened to go and look like Greedo. But there are
multiple individuals that look like Greedo wearing the say the
Rhodidians wearing the same outfit as Greedo. This was after
he was shot.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
What's the you said, the d learn some new every
day job.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, may have gotten that wrong. I'm ninety nine percent sure.
I'm not going to look it up, right, Roddion, Yeah,
I don't know. Like I said, I rarely ever go
in mispronounced things on this show. I did have a
couple of comments that rolled in regarding Eric from up North,
Good morning John.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
It's funny when I've been talking to my liberal friends
or seeing their posts on Facebook, they attribute the most wild, erratic, hateful,
mentally disturbed views to conservatives, And that's not what we
think about at all or how we treat people. It's
one of those things is that's how their brain works,
(14:29):
that's how they think about things, and they relate that
to conservatives. That's not how we operate though.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, and I've seen Listen, I've seen people online making
comments like Eric was assuming I was getting talkbacks on
the show online, but those are separate online. If they're
commenting on my stuff, I obviously don't agree with it.
I'm not going to go and amplify it. But he
was saying, hey, play those talkbacks from your listeners saying
that every single individual should be supported, and I have
(14:58):
not received any of those via the talk back of
this morning.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
Good Morning John. One thing I haven't been hearing on
the news, the mainstream news, is that they keep reporting
that the temporary protective status has been.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Going to be revoked.
Speaker 10 (15:15):
But they say there's no reason given by the president,
and that's not true. There's a massive reason related to
this fraud. And I guess we're preaching to the choir,
but they really are are hiding that fact.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, they're conveniently ignoring that fact. It's been in place
since for like some thirty four years. I mean I
talked back previously, and I think they made a good point.
There are plenty of individuals who traveled to and from
Somalia all the time. Ilhan Omar talks about this all
the time. You could grab a montage ten minutes long,
(15:50):
easy of ilhan Omar talking about her allegiance. Just am
all yet so fine's her opinion, but also you know,
wanting to one day go back there in traveling back
and forth. So yeah, the temporary protected status probably wasn't
going to be renewed to next year.
Speaker 11 (16:07):
Anyways, John, this guy, Eric and Phil, you know they're
they're kind of doing what they're accusing MAGA doing, generalizing
all Trump supporters as white nationalists or white supremacists or whatever.
But ninety nine point nine percent of MAGA is make
America great again. We're not.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
We don't care what race.
Speaker 11 (16:29):
Color, creed you are. If you're breaking the law and
stealing money from everybody and come in here illegally, you
got a goal. Whether you're from Sweden, Russia or small Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
No, absolutely, oh hell yeah, there you go. On Thursday,
the seventy seventh defendant in the food welfare program scheme
of Feeding Our Future was indicted, and his case gives
a sense of how systemic and organized the fraud schemes
have been. Federal prosecutors said that Osman Kamara, no relation
(17:04):
to ak it's a c AKS with a K, forty
five years old, was indicted on nine charges alleging fraud
federal programs, bribery, and money laundering. Here's a bit of
the story from Fox nine to Grow.
Speaker 12 (17:19):
On Thursday, the Department of Justice filed a nine count
indictment again against Usman Kamara. The forty five year old
now charged with wire fraud, bribery, and money laundering. Federal
prosecutors say that he owned a small grocery store in
North Minneapolis and claimed to be feeding one thousand kids
a day, seven days a week during the pandemic. Kamara,
(17:40):
who allegedly claimed more than a million dollars in reimbursements,
sent about one hundred thousand dollars overseas, and he is
just the latest to be charged. Earlier this year, Amy Bach,
the executive director and founder of Feeding Our Future, was
convicted of orchestrating the entire fraud scheme following a six
week trial, and only took jurors five hours to convict
(18:03):
Bach and her co defendants Salim said they were guilty
on all counts, including conspiracy, wire fraud, and bribery. Said
was one of many meal site operators who collected millions
in federal assistance. He claimed have falsely claimed to be
serving meals to as many as sixty thousand kids each day.
Little perspective, that is twice the number of students enrolled
(18:25):
in the entire Minneapolis public school district. Of the seventy
seven people now charged in connection with Feeding Our future.
Fifty six have pled guilty to their role in the scheme,
and seven others have been convicted in two separate trials.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Back to you, yeah, and again the story there from
Fox nine on this latest indictment, Kamara, I get claim
to have served more than three one hundred thousand meals
to children, So that's a lot of food. That's one
big pot. Look, and since amy Bach's name was invoked here,
(19:04):
let me make this point. We'll get to your talk
back of the day coming up in just a moment
here on Twin City's News Talk. But if the left
doesn't like the calling out of specific demographics relating to
these issues in what is really a weekly expanding issue
relating to fraud, they only have themselves to blame. How
many times did the Star Tribune, as just one example
(19:27):
of many, to the point where it became a parody
on the show. How many times did the Star Tribune
mention that feeding our future, feeding our fraud ring leader
Amy Bach was white? Like every time they wrote an
article amy Bach who is white? It wasn't relevant except
(19:48):
for the fact that in doing so, the strip was
intentionally trying to shield other demographics from scrutiny. And therein
lies another issue in all of this, the question of
why did Governor Tim Walls and DHS ignore the dramatic
increases year over year in fronting requests to the state
in these mostly Democrat created programs. The answer seems pretty
(20:11):
clear now they were too cowardly to speak up for
fear of the same kind of irrational criticism that Trump
is now facing. To that point, it's why many in
the DFL are questioning whether or not Governor Tim Walls
still has a shot to win next year. We'll dive
(20:31):
into this lengthy piece from the Star Tribune. We'll get
back to more of your talkbacks and again your talk
back of the day coming up on Twin City's News
Talk AM eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.
And what's called a Trump derangement problem? Have you heard
about that problem?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Now?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
We have dueling talkbacks over the foes of the show
this morning on Twin City's News Talk from the sixty
five to one Carpet plus Next Day Install Studios.
Speaker 13 (20:58):
Hey John, I'm Sam this up North.
Speaker 14 (21:00):
John.
Speaker 13 (21:00):
Thanks so much for holding off on playing talkbacks from
Eric from BRAINERD. They're exhausting. He has no coach and argument.
It's the same old TDS statements on full display. And Eric,
I live forty miles away from BRAINERD and I tell
you what, you're probably one of those five people that
(21:21):
protest on the weekends with the anti Ice and anti
Trump signs.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Good morning, John.
Speaker 15 (21:30):
I'm reaching out to ask you to reconsider your decision
to no longer play Eric the fakes talkbacks.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We need to hear what Eric the Fake has to say.
Speaker 15 (21:39):
That way we can point out what exists on the
left and how they try to paint MAGA in a
certain light, which you pointed out today when he claimed
there were loads of talkbacks when actually there weren't. Yeah,
please reconsider Eric the Fake.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well, I see, this is the struggle. This is the struggle.
I did not have any struggle figuring out what was
going to be the talk back of the day. It's
brought to you by Mini Leaf, M I N N
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Roodians as a greedo? Okay, in my defense, I didn't.
(22:15):
That was Sam He's the one that did that. In
his defense, he did it unknowingly. I don't think he
realized the culture of the Rhodians at the time, and
the fact that not all of them are. They're not
all named Gredo, even though they may dress like him.
So much about Star Wars, I thought I knew, John.
(22:37):
That is your talk back of the day for as
ridiculous as it is this morning here on twin City's
News Talk, brought to you by mini Leaf mini leaf
dot com. Speaking of ridiculous, we actually did get a
few more talkbacks relating to potlucks if you missed it.
We kicked off the show this morning that there was
so much panic over President Donald Trump by ending the
temporary protected status. By the way many of you have
(23:00):
pointed out, and I'll do it again here on twin
City's News Talk, it's in the name temporary. So much
concerned that they actually held a pot luck over the
weekend to address the issue.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Hey, John, so talking about community food. In my younger
married years, sister in law was going to bring in
pie and chips, and when she and her husband arrived,
it was an open bag of chips and a pie
with a slice missing. Nice. I just looked at him
and said, hey, thanks for the used food.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Gross By Now, when you say your younger married years,
does that mean you were married when you were younger
and you're not anymore, or just meant when you were
younger and you were married. I'm assuming when he was
married and he was younger, not like just curious. I
just kind of caught my attention morning John.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
My brother in law is a microbiologist, and he worked
primarily investigating food borne illnesses. He said, potlucks are notorious
for food poisoning.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, it hasn't been talked about a lot in the
UH in the grand scheme of everything that we've been
covering as of late, but I do believe the last
report that came out from COVID determined that it did
start with the potluck, specifically string Bean Castle. By the way,
can you can you tell that I'm not a big
fan of streaming cast role since I must have messaged
(24:27):
it like three times I caught that.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I will say I did work for a company not
far from here that was a restaurant by work for
the parent company. Okay, and we had a potluck one
time and somebody had pizzas delivered from a competitor.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Obbs. Yeah, I can't make it a job. You don't
want to, you don't want to do that. Yeah, I
don't know exactly what the intent was from Bonzo in
this talkback, but I'm gonna go ahead and share it
with you anyways. From the iHeartRadio app brought to you
(25:05):
by Lindall Realty.
Speaker 16 (25:07):
Oh, John Mauga is melting because of that.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Marjorie Taylor Green through a bucket of water on The
Witch Hunter done, oh no, no, no, Like I get
the context. Like I get it, and I do appreciate
the fact that he is trying to be topical considering
that Wicked for Good came out of the weekend. Did
not go and see it. By the way, I watched
the first one when it came out streaming. He was
(25:34):
fine enough. I may watch the next one. I don't
know what's happened to all the actresses in that movie, though,
it is like ravage to all of them. Apparently, if
you want to lose weight, it's not the semi glue
tide injections. Make sure you're a part of the cast
of Wicked. That's like your best weight loss program. Ever.
They all just look emaciated. It's frightening, you know what.
(25:55):
You're fascinating to talk to. Thanks all right, let's go here,
say Senator Judy Seeberger may face a tough re election
next year after winning her previous race by a few
one hundred votes. But it's the top of the ticket
that she's worried about. Oh no, you know he's the
top of the ticket. Yeah, she says. She she's trying
(26:18):
to have her cake at the potluck and eat it
too with these statements. Sieburger dfl out of Afton says,
I have some concerns and I'm not alone of Governor
Tim Walls and has run for a third term. A
lot of us have sort of talked about it are
hoping that it's the right decision. Even so, she called
Walls a phenomenal partner and said she is supporting his bid. Okay,
(26:44):
Seburger isn't the only Democrat navigating this tension. Senator Bob
excuse me. Rob Kupek dfl out of Morehead praised Walls's
achievements while expressing concern about his decision to run again.
We're in a time in American history where voters are
just very, very fickle, Kupek said, noting that dynamic doesn't
always bode well for a candidate seeking a third term.
(27:07):
The fact that the Star Tribune ran this story at
all and then tells you that Walls is in trouble.
Who would replace him is the question? Right now. I
have an interesting little theory on this I'll share with
you in a moment. Let's work through some more of
this piece. Though publicly and privately, a number of Democrats
are questioning whether Walls and his attempt to become the
(27:29):
first Minnesota governor to win three consecutive four year terms
could endanger their own party's hold on the office, as
he faces declining support outside the metro and scrutiny for
fraud cases during his administration. Some even where it could
affect other down ballot races. All four state wide offices
senate control of the legislature of the state's eight seats
(27:50):
in Congress are all on the ballot next fall. At
the same time, many other Democrats are rallying behind Walls,
saying he's the party's standard bearer and has proven his
doubters wrong before. State Senator Matt Klein DFL Mendota Heights,
who's running for Congress, said to get re elected after
you shut down restaurants, it's a pretty big accomplishment. So
(28:12):
is that an admission by the way that Walls's COVID
policy stunk seems like it's the backhanded compliment. Democrats believe
the political wins could again favor them heading into the
first mid term election of Trump's second term, but in
Minnesota it's unclear if next year's election will be as
(28:34):
much of a referendum on Trump as on Walls. The
governor's campaign is making the case that Walls is the
leader Democrats need to counter the President. The DFL governor's
support has eroded outside this twin cities, with a June
Minnesota Star Tribune polling showing at least six and ten
voters outside Ennepen and Ramsey counties disapproved of his performance.
(28:57):
Senator Nick Frantz, campaign chair for the Minute So to
Sendate DFL Caucus, said we have voters in Greater Minnesota
asking about a Wall's third term. Again, that's a very
sort of you know, they're asking about it. They're curious,
is that really the guy that we want to that
we want to run and just I'm not sure. Kupek,
(29:19):
who won his race by five percentage points in twenty
twenty two, had a more pointed critique of Walls. He
said he wishes Walls would have spent more time in
Greater Minnesota in recent years. He knows how to talk
to rural voters, does he, though. I mean, you know,
the whole rocks and cows thing, and I would tend to,
(29:40):
you know, push back on that a bit red and blue,
and there's.
Speaker 14 (29:43):
All that red across there. Democrats go into depression over it.
It's mostly rocks and cows that are in that red area.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah. Another point of discomform for some Democrats centers on
the fraud cases that have unfolded during Walls' tenure. It
took halfway through this entire Star Tribute article to get
to the relevant info, the whole reason why they put
this up in the first place. Such a joke. Frosters
have stolen hundreds of millions of dollars state run programs
(30:11):
in recent years. Walls and his administration have taken aggressive
steps recently to tamp down on fraud after several new indictments.
And again I'll just say, have they no, I mean really,
but Republicans and even some Democrats to think it's a
(30:32):
liability for the administration. I hope we have a DFL primary.
This is according to Minneapolis City Council member Jason Chavez
Democrats Socialists in a social media post, the Walls administration
being riddled with fraud doesn't give me confidence. It's a
top of the ticket liability. Like Chavez has any room
to talk, she'll we get into the violence, interrupters and
(30:52):
the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent without having to
show any sort of success or metrics. Just out of curiosity,
some dfllers are trying to address the issue of fraud directly,
even if doing so puts an unflattering spotlight on the
Walls administration. Senator Heather Gustinsen Vadnus Heights dfller has been
handing out camp campaign flyers with the blunt message while
(31:14):
some in power look the other way when fraud happens.
I don't oo. She should put shaggy on those flyers
and just be like what me, You're welcome. Melinda asked
about the line, Gustinsen said, I'm putting all of my
energy on my focus into my district, and sometimes that
(31:37):
means I need to put my districts before my party. Okay.
Despite some concerns with the rank and file Democrat lawmakers,
House DFL leader and socket wrenches. Zach Stevenson and Senate
Majority Leader Aaron Murphy remained publicly confident that having Walls
at the top of the ticket is a good thing.
House dfllers won the majority both times that Tim Walls
(31:58):
was our nominee for governor, and I have no doubt
we will do it again next fall. Stevenson said in
a statement, no talk about the fraud. We'll just ignore
all the negatives. Don't care about anything other than winning. Also,
Soca Rench DFL House a majority leader who's making another
run for state House. Ryan Winkler said, my neighbors here
(32:20):
in Golden Valley are perfectly happy with Tim Wallas's governor. Well, okay, Well,
if Winkler's neighbors are happy, then I guess it's just
just I should just stop talking about it. Winkler said
Democrats will always pay a price if government is not
running like it should. But Republicans, he said, we'll have
(32:41):
to answer next year for the chaos and corruption coming
out of Washington DC. And again, the only reason there's
any chaos is because the Democrats are causing it. And
exactly what corruption is he talking about? Demolishing the East
winging is not corruption en ding TPS is not correction.
(33:02):
There have been no illegal orders. So I go on.
Minnesota DFL A chair Richard Carlbaum, while this is like
the trifecta of soccert wrenches, is already hammering Republicans who
support Trump, including candidates for governor, who he says, enable
a lawless president to run roughshot over Minnesotan's what a
stupid statement. By the way, I'm gonna grab that from
Phil What has he done this lawless? I did go
(33:29):
and look, by the way, because Carlbaum likes to get
really brave on x, he hasn't posted anything for the
past few days. It's rather interesting, certainly not since everything
has erupted. It's been dominating the news headlines and commentary
on this show, Geo wonder what former state DFL chair
Michael Erlandson said. He thinks the concerns about the federal issues,
(33:50):
a sputtering economy, to tarrifs, and talk about restarting nuclear
testing will be on the top of mind for voters
next year more so than the worries about a walls. Okay, dude,
you you stick with that, you you just you just
roll with that. I'm ready to get beat erland Er
Erlinson said Walls needs to address the ongoing problem of
(34:12):
fraud in state programs in a way that satisfies Minnesotan's
If you know how you can satisfy Minnesotans with this,
you just you start holding people accountable. You make sure
you have individuals running dhs that actually go in question
when the amount of money being requested by these programs
(34:34):
explodes in demand without just going humph, I guess these
programs are really popular. We were spending like six million
this year, and like two years later it's like one
hundred million, point because people really just like this stuff.
Cut the checks. Erlinson said it's possible Walls could face
a challenge from within his own party at the state's
(34:56):
DFL convention. Whether it's a serious challenge or not, I
think will depend on how the administration handles all of
these ongoing fraud of challenges. He said, there's an interesting parallel,
by the way, to what happened with Joe Biden. Like
fraud to Walls is what cognitive decline was for Joe Biden.
(35:17):
Like the Left just ignored it, ignored it, ignored it
until they simply could not ignore it any any longer.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I think now is a good time as as any
to you know, maybe help walls out. I'm and hammering
and hammering him kind of hard this morning, and can
play his campaign ad. Although it's the remix.
Speaker 16 (35:37):
I've been to every corner of Minnesota and there's nothing
like it.
Speaker 14 (35:41):
See those red and blue and there's all that red
across there. Democrats go into depression over it. It's mostly
rocks and cows that are in that red area.
Speaker 16 (35:50):
I've seen how we help each other through the hard times.
But I've not been perfect, and I'm a knucklehead at times.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
But it's in these moments we have to come together.
Speaker 16 (35:58):
I called Donald Trump a one of dictator. You bully
the shout of him, and I'll never stop fighting to
protect us from the chaos, corruption and cruelty coming out
of Washington. Well, maybe it's time for us to be
a little meaner.
Speaker 17 (36:10):
May his fat ankles find something today.
Speaker 16 (36:13):
We do not have the luxury to fight amongst ourselves.
Why that thing sets in the White House. We can't lose, hope,
because I've seen what we can do when we work together.
Speaker 17 (36:24):
Think of how easy it would be to be a
damn Republican.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Oh what should I wear today?
Speaker 16 (36:28):
This stupid freaking red hat cutting taxes for the middle class.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
By the way, I never pointed this out before, but
there's a moment and I can't back it up, but
there's a moment where he does the Republicans figure you
hear this one female voice way in the background go yeah,
crats me up time.
Speaker 16 (36:46):
However, there are also taxes going up for most Minnesotans
while also making the largest investments in public safety.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
One of the few tweets we've had from any kind
of official source site, and in my opinion, that is inexcusable.
We have reached out to the governor. We are getting
no response tonight.
Speaker 16 (37:04):
We've raised graduation rates to the highest ever.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Most Minnesota students are frolling behind state standards in math,
and only about fifty percent of students are proficient in reading.
Speaker 16 (37:15):
Crack down on fraud and protect our tax dollars.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Bribes, falsified records, and taxpayers charged to help dead people
find housing.
Speaker 11 (37:22):
Thousands of dollars for work that's not being done, fake meetings,
they just build us for nothing.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Forged names, homeless veterans, dead people build phantom services.
Speaker 16 (37:33):
For that fourteen thousand you got what nothing. Now I'm
hitting the road to listen to you and talk about
our future.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
You get up in the morning and you doom scroll
through things.
Speaker 17 (37:43):
And although I will say this, the last few days
you woke up thinking there might be news, just saying
there will be news sometimes just so you know there
will be news.
Speaker 16 (37:53):
I'm ready to get beats, drenching heart or something.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Let's go here. Speaking of the economy, I've been holding
on to this for a bit, but i want to
share it with you. Treasury Secretary Scott Bescent set on
Sunday that the economy isn't headed for a large scale recession,
despite certain sectors showing recessions. Recess only cow recessionary signs.
(38:24):
That's a tough one. You got it this later in
the show recessionary sides rock band or racehorse neither neither
Because I can't pronounce it, he said, big picture. He
was asked, big picture, mister secretary, you said earlier this month,
(38:45):
and I'm gonna quote you. I think there are sectors
of the economy that are in recession. Like Kevin Hasset,
the Director of the National Economic Council, said we're starting
to see pockets of the economy they look like they
might be in recession, and Beset replied, well, clearly housing
has been struggling, so interest rate sensitive sectors have been
(39:05):
in recession. The Secretary then noted the Democrat led forty
three day government shutdown wasn't helpful either to the economy,
but he did say that he was very optimistic heading
into twenty twenty six. We've set the table for a strong,
non inflationary growth economy. As a matter of fact, I
have a clip here. This goes back to last weekend
(39:26):
on Fox News. I believe he was talking with Maria
barter Romo and he was discussing the Treasury secretary expectations
heading into next year. How long will that take.
Speaker 18 (39:35):
I think we are going to see a substantial acceleration
in the economy in the first second quarter. And I
think we are also we're already seeing on many prices,
as I said, bending that curved down and the increase
in real incomes. I think Americans are going to feel
(39:55):
it in the first quarter, second quarter. I think twenty
twenty six, thanks to President Trump's signature plans, is going
to be a great year for working Americans.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
For the markets.
Speaker 18 (40:07):
I call it parallel prosperity. Main Street and Wall Street
can both do great, But I think Main Street's going
to have a great year in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Six, and it would make it would make sense heading
into an election cycle and obviously be beneficial for Republicans
heading into the midterms if that were to take place.
All right, let's wrap up here with a couple of
year comments as we close out Monday shows, specifically regarding potlucks.
Speaker 8 (40:32):
Boring John Green bean castle is bad, but corre up
in Minnesota, green yellow with parrot shavings.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I'd actually try that.
Speaker 19 (40:41):
I like you, Jella, do do do Do Do Do
Do Do Do Do. This is Russ from CNN reporting
live from the Minneapolis Potlook, where police chef Bryan O'Hara
has brought macaroni salad with vegetables. We all know that
he will not be long for this position after that move.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Well played, Russ, Well well played. If you missed any
portion of today's show, you definitely want to check out
the podcast. It'll be available up on the iHeart Radio
app tomorrow. On the show, David Cartenstein Ross, We're gonna
get our artificial intelligence conversation on that'll happen at six
point thirty. The show gets underwag just after six o'clock.
(41:23):
Thanks Sam, thank you for listening, and I'll talk to
you guys tomorrow morning. Enjoy the rest of your Monday,
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