December 15, 2025 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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go here, hey, John.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
What you just said was incredibly profound. Where the criminals
are realizing that the politicians that represent half of the
country are on their side. And my question is, at
what point, and this is why so many people call
for the purp walks. At what point does those election
certificates stop being a shield because these people are promoting
criminal behavior, They are complicit, They are themselves criminals, whether
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they want to admit it or not. And this is
why people are sick.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Of I get it, I hear you, but it also takes.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Legal maneuvers to go and make those things happen, and
a lot of times those are difficult to come to,
difficult to find if they're not there. When it comes
to elected officials, they are very clever and how they
associate themselves with particular groups, those that may be committing wrongdoing,
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turning a blind eye to issues like fraud like what
has happened here in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I see the comments all the time from people that
say they'd love to see Governor Tim Walls arrested. But
unless you have the actual criminal wrongdoing in front of
you to go the charging, you know, the things to
charge an individual with, just being the governor of Minnesota
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in the wake of all this fraud isn't enough. Now,
we'll see what these investigations will bring. Over the weekend,
you had House Chairman the House Oversight and Accountability Committee
Chairman James Comer said he was willing to subpoena Walls
over the fraud scheme here in Minnesota if anyone has
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received correspondence from US thus far requesting information, if they
don't turn it over that information, they will get a subpoena.
And we are serious about this. We're not going to
back down. Comer warned in an interview with Just the
News of wanting to get documents from Minnesota to look
into a further investigation into what has transpired under the
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leadership of Governor Tim Walls, or lack thereof.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Comber noted.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
To Just the News that Walls and other Minnesota officials
like Attorney General Keith Ellison have hid as the investigation proceeds.
You know, Walls gets due process, but the way he's
handling this and the way that Ellison in the Attorney
General has kind of hit it right now makes me
pretty confident that there's a massive amount of waste of
fraud and abuse that's to be detected here. I'm going
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to predict that Walls's political career is closer to an
end than somewhere in the middle, which is why he
may be announcement Friday after the show was over that
he would be launching his new fraud prevention program.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Again.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
This would be like.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Launching a program to shore up luxury ocean going liners
after the Titanic has already sunk, rearranging the deck chairs
on the Titanic, but the Titanic has already sunk to
the bottom of the ocean and you're rearranging those deck chairs. Now,
it's kind of pointless to get out ahead of the fraud.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Dude. It's a little late for that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But on Friday, working off the version of the story
from alphin News, Walston announced a new statewide fraud prevention
program and the appointment of Minnesota's first fraud czar. As
a national media coverage intensifies over repeated fraud schemes tied
to the state public programs, many of which involved members
of the Somali community. Walls has named Tim O'Malley, the
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interim Chief and Judge of the Minnesota Court of Administrative Hearings,
former Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension superintendent and FBI agent,
to oversee the effort. Bill Klawn rites of the new
anti fraud czar and says this at American Experiment dot org,
writing as a former energy zar for the state of Minnesota.
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I do love a good bizar appointment, says Bill. Conspicuents
by the absence today at the press conference was the
state's top legal officer, Attorney General Keith Elison, Lieutenant Governor
Peggy Flanagan. I don't think flan again and Wallzer on
very good speaking terms. Today's announcement, by the way, this
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would be Friday, included a partnership with a third party
private vendor, because what is a new program without being
able to go and spend more taxpayer dollars on said
new program. So in the middle of tackling waste, fraud
and abuse, we're gonna go and waste more money because
this program is completely unnecessary. We have all the means
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already in place here in Minnesota via our Minnesota government
to go and tackle this particular issue.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
There is no need for a fraud per program.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
There is no need for a frauds are This is
all just political theater to make it act like Walls
is suddenly going to do something about this, as he says,
I just fix things. The private vendor is Waypoint Ink
of Minnesota based professional service, former law enforcement and federal
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business risk mitigation, healthcare compliance and investigations, and tax litigation support.
Bill goes on to say today's announcement appears to be
at least the third attempt by Walls to get ahead
of the multi billion dollar multi fraud scandal. He had
previously issued an anti fraud executive order in January and September,
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both of which had little effect, and this is also
going to have little effect. Now here's the first clip
of Governor Tim Walls, and we'll get into more of
these coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
On whinsaid his news talk.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
But he was asked if he takes responsibility for the
fraud and then gives a rather all these answers are bizarre.
Walls is a master at the nonsensical word salad. He
just says enough words, puts them in order where they
kind of make sense. But if you actually go and
try to break down what it was he actually said,
it's next to nothing.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yes, yes, I take responsibility for everything. I take responsibility
for COVID, I take responsibility for George Floyd. I take
responsibility for balancing the budgets. And I do take responsibility.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Let me stop here really quick. He's totally annoyed by
the question. That was pure sarcasm. I take responsibility for that.
I take responsibility for George Floyd. See he throws that
in there because he wants to diminish the value of
what he has to say. He wants to diminish the
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value of the question being posed by the member of
the Press by throwing George Floyd in there, because this
is not a part of the discussion that we're talking
about fraud that happened under his watch as governor, where
you had DHS officials turning a blind eye to the
dramatic increase in funding requests for these various programs.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
We're making this shape one of the best in the
country for children to live, so the outcomes. I also
note to folks that the one airport that has remained
on time is Minneapolis Saint Paul. I take responsibility for that.
I appoint everybody to the MAC Council and I am
fully responsible for it. So I'm not sure Minnesota's know
that part I'll take.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
He hates all of this.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
He does not handle scrutiny because up until now he
really hasn't had any. I mean even the time when
he was spent running his VP. This all should have
been front and center, and it wasn't. Thankfully, the country
rejected him. We were way too close to having that
individual in a further place misition.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Of power in the White House.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So thank the Good Lord Almighty for small miracles, but
he does not handle the scrutiny. And that's evident in
the other audio that I'll share with you coming up
here on Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty and
one oh three five FM, including your comments from the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
John tim and Chicago City good morning. Are you sure
he didn't mean he was appointing a fraudulent czar and
not a fraud csar? Just looking for clarification.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Hell a good day, eleven thirty one three point five
and on the iHeartRadio app, you know it very wise
beyond his years. Commentator had mentioned that Wall's naming this
Tim O'Malley as the interim Chief Judge of the Minnesota
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Court of Administrative Hearings and former Minnesota Bureau of Criminal
Apprehension superintendent and FBI agent as the new czar of
Minnesota's fraud prevention program.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Perhaps you install.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
The czar only too later on fire the czar in
order to give off the perception that you're doing something
about it. Well, if more fraud is discovered now goes
to the czar.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
See look, I'm doing something about it. I wouldn't put
it pass Walls.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
O'Malley previously served as BCA superintendent under former Governor Tim Polenti.
Later worked as the with the Archidiocese of Saint Paula Minneapolis.
In addressing the clergy abuse scandal, said the assignment is
not political. Come on and emphasize his emphasize his independence
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from the governor. I do want to offer two thoughts
at o'mealey. One is an observation and one is a
point of clarity. The observation is the obvious one. No
one has any tolerance for fraud at erodes trust and
must be addressed. Minnesotans deserve to know that their tax
dollars are being put to good use. We have our
work cut out for to rebuild that trust. He added
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a point of clarification, know that I'm not here to
serve walls. I'm not here to serve any individual. I'm
not here to serve a political party. I'm here to
serve Minnesotans and listen all with whole judgment and trust
that that's the case until I see something Differently, to
say I'm skeptical would be an understatement and based off
of this comment alone from O'Malley, no one has any
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tolerance for fraud. The Walls administration certainly did for far
too long, which is why we're in the situation that
we're in. It's the only reason why this fraud prevention
program exists in the first place is that Walls tolerated
the fraud. Ellison tolerated the fraud, the Democrats, the DFL
tolerated the fraud, or just simply said there wasn't any fraud,
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O'Malley said. Walls reassured him that all of us have
the freedom and autonomy to act, to do whatever is
necessary to solve this. And you believe him, I certainly wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Hey warn't. John Bruce is shackby.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
In that little blurb of Walls, he said that he
appointed the people at the Met Council. I mean all
those people that waste all that money to make the
planes run on time at MSP. But guess what, the
met pone Airporce Commission runs MSP totally independent, and I
don't think the Met Council has a thing.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
To do with it.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
That guy just lies every time his lips are moving.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Day Walls framed Friday's announcement is part of a larger
effort to address fraud while conceding shortcomings and how his
administration was handling the public messaging. So Bill clawn Center
of The American Experiment his coverage on this says today's
announcement appears to be again at least a third attempt
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for Walls to get something done about this multi fraud scandal.
It's not clear how the duties assigned to the anti
frauds are differ from those that would have gone to
the proposed statewide Office of Inspector General. Exactly what I
was talking about. There's no need for this program. We
already have infrastructure and money in place to go and
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tackle this. The OIG proposal, by the way, was shot
down by a single vote from Democrats in the state
legislature last session. Now, as per usual during this one
hour press event, answers provided by Walls, he operates in
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a reality that no one else is familiar with.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
A telling question was posed.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
About forty minutes in to the announcement of the fraud
prevention program, where Walls was asked whether he would like
to see more condemnation of fraud from leaders in the
Somali community, and this is how he responded.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
For a small community to say we are we need
to look at ourselves. We need to hold our home
games accouble because a little bit of damage that.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
This is doc form cut.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
What do you want to hear more of it stead
of just saying don't wig us? So you want to
see more ownership and oversight from getting.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Look, it's not law abiding citizens. If that were the case,
there's a lot of white men should be holding a
lot of white men accountable for the crimes that they
have committed. I think for the community to maybe educate
their population because I think what you're seeing here is
their secondary.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Let me stop here really quick, because he me anders here
for another thirty seconds, and I want to set the
stage on this first off. He's clever in his nonsensical
word salads only because it tells you how stupid he
thinks you are. It tells you how stupid Governor Tim
Walls thinks that the.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Press corps is that the voters are.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
He reframes the argument away from what the reporter was
asking and he brings in this, well, if we're going
to go in point to one community, then we might
as well be you know, appointed a white guys, and
white guys better be apologizing because of all the crime
that white guys go and perpetuate, which goes and reframes
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the issue at hand, diminishes the importance of the question
the reporter was asking of whether or not because ninety
percent of this fraud is being perpetuated by the Somali community,
if you would like to see more in that community
address the situation. And then he attempts to go and
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actually answer the question by providing nothing of substance. At
one point when he's talking, he looks over to his
right at one of the other officials that's standing with
him during the press conference in order to get a
head nod acknowledgment to a nonsensical statement that he makes
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to try to bring validity to what it is that
he is saying. In the middle of saying nothing, it's
all like a magician's trick, and it's on full display
for everybody to see.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Victims in this that there's providers inside the community that
are then victimizing the cretia himself by signing them up.
Because when we're going to some of these people, they're like,
I had no idea I was in this program, so
I think it's it's ask.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And that was the moment, he's talking about some other
aspect of how there are individuals who are impacted by
this who had no idea because in the programs people
were signed up for, they had no idea that they
were signed up for. It is a true aspect of
the fraud taking place, but is completely irrelevant to what
the reporter.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Was actually asking.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's just a fact that he threw in there so
he could form and string together some sort of sentence
to make it sound like he's actually going and addressing
the curiosity from the local media.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
King us. Then, you know, for every crime, which of
course the majority being committed by white men, asking us
to do more about that, I think it's crime in general,
and I think the biggest thing on this is is
just making sure that we're educating the population. And again,
this is eighty people or so that have been convicted
in this. Maybe some more in that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
What is he talking about that had nothing to do
with the question that was posed. She does this almost
every single time, Bill Walsh an American experiment giving credit
where credit is due. It's Wall's shorthand speak.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And I hope that the media has.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Been doing a better job holding Walls accountable they're willing
to go and ask the questions in the wake of
all of this, and I'm very appreciative of that. I
think we all are. We need to taking a step further.
We need to follow up nonsensical word salad answers like
that with what are you talking about? You didn't answer
my question. I don't know what it is that you
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just said. It would have been completely legitimate for that
reporter to go just.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Really quick, Governor.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I can't make sense of what it is that you
just mentioned because you did not make any sense. You
sound like Gary Pusey right now for crying out loud.
All right, we have more audio of walls coming up
in just a moment.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
There's a fair warning.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I have a really interesting before and after from DFL
Representative Zach Stevenson. How two weeks ago he was very
worried about what Trump was doing regarding immigration and our
Somali community and not bringing attention to it, and then
suddenly now he's talking about it as if they're going
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to go and solve the problem in a completely hypocritical stance,
versus what he said just two weeks ago. I have
the audio evdence to share with you. And we'll get
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Speaker 8 (19:58):
Warning and I love your show all right.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Before we get back to.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Governor Tim Walls and his fraud prevention program press conference
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That's essentially what he was saying.
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The Department of Justice has filed a racial discrimination lawsuit
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Speaker 4 (22:21):
The Republicans need to start their own fraud prevention campaign
and it's running against Walls and Ellison, so that should
be a new campaign slogan. This is my fraud prevention
fire Ellison Firewalls.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I actually like that.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's the GOP fraud prevention program. Elect Republicans, thank you
that you are the recipient to gusts of the talkback
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leaders at the Capitol criticized Walls at his announcement, arguing
that the new fraud Prevention Office adds bureaucracy without addressing
accountability for past failures. Lisa Damouth, House speaker and gubernatorial candidate.
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After burying his head into sand about fraud for nearly
two full terms, the governor has suddenly decided someone should
do something about it. The move is too little, too late.
He failed to root out fraud and his agencies. He
failed to hold anyone accountable, he failed to take responsibility
for what he allowed to happen, and now he wants
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to sweep all his failures under the rug. The time
for the program integrity was years ago. Now it's time
for accountability. House Republican floor leader Harry Niske tied the
announcement to political pressure. Facing the governor for nearly a decade,
Walls lost billions of taxpayer dollars to fraud and has
done nothing to stop it. Niska said, Now, with an
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election fast approaching and fraud his most serious political vulnerability,
the governor is scrambling to paper over his epic failures.
Minnesotan's understand the timing and see this for what it is,
a loitical calculation meant to save face. He did not
do a very good job on Friday. That's an understatement.
Let's get some more of his clips. His press conference
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started out with Walls going and criticizing the president.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Not a huge surprise here, And look.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
I have to assess this too. I understand when I
speak up it brings Donald Trump's petty vindictiveness to Minnesota,
and this is all about coming and attacking us.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
He didn't know anything about this.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
He doesn't know how Medicaid program works. The only thing
he knows about is going to double the cost over
the next week. But he doesn't know how these programs
work or anything about it. So he heard and somebody
told him the Somalis are stealing money and they're not
doing anything about throw it up there. That's not how
the US Attorney's office works.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's the beginning part of his statement here makes me laugh.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
And look, I have to assess this too. I understand
when I speak up it brings Donald Trump's petty vindictiveness
to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And this is all he said a simil comment when
he was speaking to the group in Seattle because he'd
run away out of stage to a couple of events
in the middle of the heightened scrutiny that was taking place,
but basically said that the fact that he says this
is being Walls like over the top outrageous things. It
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was the President's fault because it brings out the worst
in him. He can't even take responsibility for what he
has to say with his commentary.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Tim Walls is not a bright man.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
He constantly speaks on that on this in that he
doesn't know how to speak.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
And I think it's.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Partly to do because every time he's speaking, he's lying
and trying to make everything up as he goes along.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
He has to go people.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
But I want to address at the top here two
of our fellow Minnesotans, two of our fellow American citizens,
two of our fellow Minnesota American citizens who were minding
their own business and living their lives were detained by
and arrested by Ice.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
They were not minding their own business, they were not
just going about living their lives. They were getting in
the way of federal law enforcement.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
These chaotic operations are doing nothing to make us safer.
These chaotic operations are not done in any coordination with
law enforcement in the middle of a blizzard.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And these are all such platent lies. They're only chaotic
because of the activists. That's the only reason why they're chaotic.
If it wasn't for activist observers as they like to
call themselves, showing up and getting in the way of
law enforcement, none of these situations would even be talked
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about beyond the criminal being arrested.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And then two this lie that they're not even working
with local law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You're preventing that from happening. The various city leaders of
your party are preventing that from happening.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
The absolute recklessness of doing some of this, and the
targeting of a specific community unconscionable, does nothing to either
address immigration. It certainly does nothing to address fraud.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
By the way, why is this targeting of a specific
community only go one direction ninety of the fraud being
perpetuated by one particular group.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Is that not a targeting of.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Taxpayer dollars tax paying citizens. I mean it could be
framed that way if you wanted to. I'm not saying
that it should, but given Governor Tim Wall's assessment of
the targeting of one community, you could take that, spin
it back around and be like, well, why is it
ninety percent of one community is targeting fraud wasting the
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taxpayer dollars of everybody else in programs?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
It is very specifically aimed and very racially motivated towards
a Somali community that matters greatly here. I know there
was a hearing yesterday to get some answers on this.
The DHS secretary left no reason, stood up and left
that hearing. I have not received a response to my
letters asking about explanations on what's happening. I would note
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that I was in that hearing and I stayed for
the eight and a half hours and answered all the questions.
I think the expectation would be in a moment like this,
where American citizens constitutional rights are being violated and put at.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Risk nobody which constitutional rights are being violid? Has anybody
been charged with violating somebody else's constitutional rights? Or is
he just making stuff up again. Here's more of what
Walls had to say from the press conference on Friday.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah, this is eighty people or so that have been
convicted in this, maybe some more in that out of
a broader ring. Medicaid broad Wall stretch across all racial demographics,
all ethnic groups. So I think it's really important for
us to note each each community's got this in their
own Mitch. But to blame them and say that they
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should have been responsible for stopping it, I think that's
a pretty hard reach. I think we continue to educate
folks about why.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
How was that a hard reach?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You had individuals that were being bought off so that
their children could be included and counted as being autistic
even though they weren't autistic.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
They were being silenced.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Using the fraudulent taxpayer money that was brought in from
these criminals. No, it's not a stretch to ask why
individuals in the community didn't speak out more. But we
know how Walls feels about whistleblowers, how frustrated he got
over the four hundred and some odd DHS whistleblowers pointing
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out what a failure he has been as governor of Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
They shouldn't commit crimes.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
You would hope that it's being taught both at home
and at schools and in our society. But no, I
think this idea that the Somali community is to blame
for this because they didn't do more. I think that's
how we got into this, and that's you know again,
don't I know, We're not going to lose the whole
plot here, all this work that's being done. Donald Trump
brought this to the attention like this is something brand new.
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This is not brand new, and it's been being worked on,
but he made it white hot and very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We know it's not brand new.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You've had individuals out there, You've had different outlets, American Experiment,
Alpha News, this Show that have been pointing to this fraud.
I've been talking about this. You didn't care, Governor Tim Walls.
You didn't care until it became a political liability for you.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Nobody is saying it's new.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
We've all been pointing out how interesting it's been watching
the rest of the country catch up to what we've
known about here for years.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Good morning, John, I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
Great show is always I've been over the course of
the last several years on the camp of Walls.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Just isn't that bright.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I've changed my tune with a lot.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Of what I've seen.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
I think he's probably bright enough.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I just think the problem is he's evil. I think
he's got evil tendencies.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
I think he's corrupt in every sense of the work
and knows it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Just my opinion, Yeah, Alison, And this was shared yesterday
during the event that I attended. How when Walls arrived
on the scene, he had presented himself as this Democrat, moderate,
law abiding, well not law abiding, but a gun owner,
pro Second Amendment rights. But then once he became governor,
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he flipped the switch because it was more politically advantageous
for him to become a radical. And he slowly has
moved that way because that's who he truly is. Oh.
He also continues to push lies apart from fraud. He
had this to say about the Trump administration reporting a
deported military veteran to South Korea. He's pushing this Lae.
(32:36):
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Obviously, they took American citizens. They deported a US combat
veteran who served this nation in uniform and deported him
to South Korea country he has not been in since
he was eight years old.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
So I want to address yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
And Governor Jim Wlls, why did they deport him?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Say, June Park was deported because he had prior criminal
convictions and he's self deported. Just add it to the
list of lies. The governor goes and perpetuates. All right,
let's go here with this because this cracks me up.
(33:17):
So I'm online and I'm doing my show prep and
Representative Zach Stevenson, he had this post regarding fraud just
a day or two ago that really stuck out to
me because it was like this too little, too late,
sudden outrage, burst of concern relating to fraud. So I
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did a little bit more digging, and I want to
set the stage here. So this was December third, about
two and a half weeks ago, Okay, where you had
Zach Stevenson saying, what's happening in Minnesota right now is
the worst of what Donald Trump does best. He's trying
to distract us from his own failures by shifting the
blame here's his comments.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
The worst of what Donald try T does best. It's
his go to move when he finds himself in trouble
on the political ropes. He distracts, divides, and demagogues. It's disgusting,
using real people as pawns as he desperately tries to
change the subject. Minnesotans know that their costs are rising
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because of his tariffs and his terrible big bill. Healthcare
costs in particular are soaring, and the President is desperate
to change the subject. But scapegoating the Somali community won't
decrease the cost of healthcare. The Somali community is part
of the fabric of Minnesota, and the House, DFL and
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all of Minnesota will always stand with the Somali community
when the President targets them for his own political benefit.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
So this was in the wake of Trump wanting to
end the temporary protected status that brought all of this
to the national attention, and thank you Trump for doing that.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
So, at the time, Representative Zach Stevens is like, can't
talk about the fraud, can't talk about illegal immigration, that's
political opportunism. But now that the fraud is front and Center,
he's all about calling out the fraud, and where in
his initial comments there on December third, taking issue with
anybody that would bring in the Somali elemented to fraud
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because it's factual, right, can't do that. That's horrible, that's racist.
And yet without naming that community specifically that's responsible for
ninety percent of that fraud, he's now drawing attention to
the crime being perpetuated that by that community and the
very thing the President spoke out against that Zach was
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so upset about less than two weeks ago. He posted
this online over the weekend. Every dollar of fraud is
unacceptable and I'm outraged by it. Every dollar of fraud
is one that should be going to help people. The
programs targeted by fraudsters serve homeless people, people with disabilities,
and kids with autism. What kind of person steals from
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kids with autism?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I laughed out loud when I saw this post.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Kay, where you been?
Speaker 7 (36:19):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
You're just now outraged because we've known about this for months,
if not longer.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Where was your outrage overfeeding our future?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I certainly couldn't find any comments from Zack Stevenson regarding that.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I mean he may have, but I couldn't find him
and I went looking.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
He goes on to right, we will continue to take
on the greedy scammers who cheap Minnesotans out of public
resources and steal from Minnesota taxpayers. Anyone who steals money
from the most vulnerable Minnesotans belongs in jail. Yeah, they're
all talking tough now, they're all talking like, hey, we're
going to tackle this.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
We care about it.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
They didn't give a rip until this became an issue
that could actually impact the impact them at the ballot box.
They couldn't have cared less if they tried, And now suddenly,
how jare a person steal from kids with autism? He's
not wrong, it's just the fact that only now he
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seems to actually care about it. Thanks for hanging out
on the show this morning. If you missed any portion,
check out the podcast. Thank you for listening to the podcast,
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Speaker 2 (37:30):
At it tomorrow six oh six.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
On tomorrow show, Devid carthin Stein Ross will make his
final appearance of twenty twenty five, and we'll continue to
cover the news of the day. You got more fraud
to dive into as well. Have yourself a fantastic Monday.
I'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Stay warm, bah, Well.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
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Speaker 3 (01:58):
What you just said was incredibly profound. Where the criminals
are realizing that the politicians that represent half of the
country are on their side. And my question is, at
what point, and this is why so many people call
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Of I get it, I hear you, but it also takes.
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Legal maneuvers to go and make those things happen, and
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turning a blind eye to issues like fraud like what
has happened here in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I see the comments all the time from people that
say they'd love to see Governor Tim Walls arrested. But
unless you have the actual criminal wrongdoing in front of
you to go the charging, you know, the things to
charge an individual with, just being the governor of Minnesota
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in the wake of all this fraud isn't enough. Now,
we'll see what these investigations will bring. Over the weekend,
you had House Chairman the House Oversight and Accountability Committee
Chairman James Comer said he was willing to subpoena Walls
over the fraud scheme here in Minnesota if anyone has
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received correspondence from US thus far requesting information, if they
don't turn it over that information, they will get a subpoena.
And we are serious about this. We're not going to
back down. Comer warned in an interview with Just the
News of wanting to get documents from Minnesota to look
into a further investigation into what has transpired under the
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leadership of Governor Tim Walls, or lack thereof.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Comber noted.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
To Just the News that Walls and other Minnesota officials
like Attorney General Keith Ellison have hid as the investigation proceeds.
You know, Walls gets due process, but the way he's
handling this and the way that Ellison in the Attorney
General has kind of hit it right now makes me
pretty confident that there's a massive amount of waste of
fraud and abuse that's to be detected here. I'm going
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to predict that Walls's political career is closer to an
end than somewhere in the middle, which is why he
may be announcement Friday after the show was over that
he would be launching his new fraud prevention program.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Again.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
This would be like.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Launching a program to shore up luxury ocean going liners
after the Titanic has already sunk, rearranging the deck chairs
on the Titanic, but the Titanic has already sunk to
the bottom of the ocean and you're rearranging those deck chairs. Now,
it's kind of pointless to get out ahead of the fraud.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Dude. It's a little late for that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But on Friday, working off the version of the story
from alphin News, Walston announced a new statewide fraud prevention
program and the appointment of Minnesota's first fraud czar. As
a national media coverage intensifies over repeated fraud schemes tied
to the state public programs, many of which involved members
of the Somali community. Walls has named Tim O'Malley, the
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interim Chief and Judge of the Minnesota Court of Administrative Hearings,
former Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension superintendent and FBI agent,
to oversee the effort. Bill Klawn rites of the new
anti fraud czar and says this at American Experiment dot org,
writing as a former energy zar for the state of Minnesota.
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I do love a good bizar appointment, says Bill. Conspicuents
by the absence today at the press conference was the
state's top legal officer, Attorney General Keith Elison, Lieutenant Governor
Peggy Flanagan. I don't think flan again and Wallzer on
very good speaking terms. Today's announcement, by the way, this
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would be Friday, included a partnership with a third party
private vendor, because what is a new program without being
able to go and spend more taxpayer dollars on said
new program. So in the middle of tackling waste, fraud
and abuse, we're gonna go and waste more money because
this program is completely unnecessary. We have all the means
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already in place here in Minnesota via our Minnesota government
to go and tackle this particular issue.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
There is no need for a fraud per program.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
There is no need for a frauds are This is
all just political theater to make it act like Walls
is suddenly going to do something about this, as he says,
I just fix things. The private vendor is Waypoint Ink
of Minnesota based professional service, former law enforcement and federal
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business risk mitigation, healthcare compliance and investigations, and tax litigation support.
Bill goes on to say today's announcement appears to be
at least the third attempt by Walls to get ahead
of the multi billion dollar multi fraud scandal. He had
previously issued an anti fraud executive order in January and September,
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both of which had little effect, and this is also
going to have little effect. Now here's the first clip
of Governor Tim Walls, and we'll get into more of
these coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
On whinsaid his news talk.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
But he was asked if he takes responsibility for the
fraud and then gives a rather all these answers are bizarre.
Walls is a master at the nonsensical word salad. He
just says enough words, puts them in order where they
kind of make sense. But if you actually go and
try to break down what it was he actually said,
it's next to nothing.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Yes, yes, I take responsibility for everything. I take responsibility
for COVID, I take responsibility for George Floyd. I take
responsibility for balancing the budgets. And I do take responsibility.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Let me stop here really quick. He's totally annoyed by
the question. That was pure sarcasm. I take responsibility for that.
I take responsibility for George Floyd. See he throws that
in there because he wants to diminish the value of
what he has to say. He wants to diminish the
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value of the question being posed by the member of
the Press by throwing George Floyd in there, because this
is not a part of the discussion that we're talking
about fraud that happened under his watch as governor, where
you had DHS officials turning a blind eye to the
dramatic increase in funding requests for these various programs.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
We're making this shape one of the best in the
country for children to live, so the outcomes. I also
note to folks that the one airport that has remained
on time is Minneapolis Saint Paul. I take responsibility for that.
I appoint everybody to the MAC Council and I am
fully responsible for it. So I'm not sure Minnesota's know
that part I'll take.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
He hates all of this.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
He does not handle scrutiny because up until now he
really hasn't had any. I mean even the time when
he was spent running his VP. This all should have
been front and center, and it wasn't. Thankfully, the country
rejected him. We were way too close to having that
individual in a further place misition.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Of power in the White House.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So thank the Good Lord Almighty for small miracles, but
he does not handle the scrutiny. And that's evident in
the other audio that I'll share with you coming up
here on Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty and
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Speaker 6 (10:20):
John tim and Chicago City good morning. Are you sure
he didn't mean he was appointing a fraudulent czar and
not a fraud csar? Just looking for clarification.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Hell a good day, eleven thirty one three point five
and on the iHeartRadio app, you know it very wise
beyond his years. Commentator had mentioned that Wall's naming this
Tim O'Malley as the interim Chief Judge of the Minnesota
(10:53):
Court of Administrative Hearings and former Minnesota Bureau of Criminal
Apprehension superintendent and FBI agent as the new czar of
Minnesota's fraud prevention program.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Perhaps you install.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
The czar only too later on fire the czar in
order to give off the perception that you're doing something
about it. Well, if more fraud is discovered now goes
to the czar.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
See look, I'm doing something about it. I wouldn't put
it pass Walls.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
O'Malley previously served as BCA superintendent under former Governor Tim Polenti.
Later worked as the with the Archidiocese of Saint Paula Minneapolis.
In addressing the clergy abuse scandal, said the assignment is
not political. Come on and emphasize his emphasize his independence
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from the governor. I do want to offer two thoughts
at o'mealey. One is an observation and one is a
point of clarity. The observation is the obvious one. No
one has any tolerance for fraud at erodes trust and
must be addressed. Minnesotans deserve to know that their tax
dollars are being put to good use. We have our
work cut out for to rebuild that trust. He added
(12:02):
a point of clarification, know that I'm not here to
serve walls. I'm not here to serve any individual. I'm
not here to serve a political party. I'm here to
serve Minnesotans and listen all with whole judgment and trust
that that's the case until I see something Differently, to
say I'm skeptical would be an understatement and based off
of this comment alone from O'Malley, no one has any
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tolerance for fraud. The Walls administration certainly did for far
too long, which is why we're in the situation that
we're in. It's the only reason why this fraud prevention
program exists in the first place is that Walls tolerated
the fraud. Ellison tolerated the fraud, the Democrats, the DFL
tolerated the fraud, or just simply said there wasn't any fraud,
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O'Malley said. Walls reassured him that all of us have
the freedom and autonomy to act, to do whatever is
necessary to solve this. And you believe him, I certainly wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Hey warn't. John Bruce is shackby.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
In that little blurb of Walls, he said that he
appointed the people at the Met Council. I mean all
those people that waste all that money to make the
planes run on time at MSP. But guess what, the
met pone Airporce Commission runs MSP totally independent, and I
don't think the Met Council has a thing.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
To do with it.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
That guy just lies every time his lips are moving.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Day Walls framed Friday's announcement is part of a larger
effort to address fraud while conceding shortcomings and how his
administration was handling the public messaging. So Bill clawn Center
of The American Experiment his coverage on this says today's
announcement appears to be again at least a third attempt
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for Walls to get something done about this multi fraud scandal.
It's not clear how the duties assigned to the anti
frauds are differ from those that would have gone to
the proposed statewide Office of Inspector General. Exactly what I
was talking about. There's no need for this program. We
already have infrastructure and money in place to go and
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tackle this. The OIG proposal, by the way, was shot
down by a single vote from Democrats in the state
legislature last session. Now, as per usual during this one
hour press event, answers provided by Walls, he operates in
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a reality that no one else is familiar with.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
A telling question was posed.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
About forty minutes in to the announcement of the fraud
prevention program, where Walls was asked whether he would like
to see more condemnation of fraud from leaders in the
Somali community, and this is how he responded.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
For a small community to say we are we need
to look at ourselves. We need to hold our home
games accouble because a little bit of damage that.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
This is doc form cut.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
What do you want to hear more of it stead
of just saying don't wig us? So you want to
see more ownership and oversight from getting.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Look, it's not law abiding citizens. If that were the case,
there's a lot of white men should be holding a
lot of white men accountable for the crimes that they
have committed. I think for the community to maybe educate
their population because I think what you're seeing here is
their secondary.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Let me stop here really quick, because he me anders here
for another thirty seconds, and I want to set the
stage on this first off. He's clever in his nonsensical
word salads only because it tells you how stupid he
thinks you are. It tells you how stupid Governor Tim
Walls thinks that the.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Press corps is that the voters are.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
He reframes the argument away from what the reporter was
asking and he brings in this, well, if we're going
to go in point to one community, then we might
as well be you know, appointed a white guys, and
white guys better be apologizing because of all the crime
that white guys go and perpetuate, which goes and reframes
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the issue at hand, diminishes the importance of the question
the reporter was asking of whether or not because ninety
percent of this fraud is being perpetuated by the Somali community,
if you would like to see more in that community
address the situation. And then he attempts to go and
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actually answer the question by providing nothing of substance. At
one point when he's talking, he looks over to his
right at one of the other officials that's standing with
him during the press conference in order to get a
head nod acknowledgment to a nonsensical statement that he makes
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to try to bring validity to what it is that
he is saying. In the middle of saying nothing, it's
all like a magician's trick, and it's on full display
for everybody to see.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Victims in this that there's providers inside the community that
are then victimizing the cretia himself by signing them up.
Because when we're going to some of these people, they're like,
I had no idea I was in this program, so
I think it's it's ask.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And that was the moment, he's talking about some other
aspect of how there are individuals who are impacted by
this who had no idea because in the programs people
were signed up for, they had no idea that they
were signed up for. It is a true aspect of
the fraud taking place, but is completely irrelevant to what
the reporter.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Was actually asking.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's just a fact that he threw in there so
he could form and string together some sort of sentence
to make it sound like he's actually going and addressing
the curiosity from the local media.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
King us. Then, you know, for every crime, which of
course the majority being committed by white men, asking us
to do more about that, I think it's crime in general,
and I think the biggest thing on this is is
just making sure that we're educating the population. And again,
this is eighty people or so that have been convicted
in this. Maybe some more in that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
What is he talking about that had nothing to do
with the question that was posed. She does this almost
every single time, Bill Walsh an American experiment giving credit
where credit is due. It's Wall's shorthand speak.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And I hope that the media has.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Been doing a better job holding Walls accountable they're willing
to go and ask the questions in the wake of
all of this, and I'm very appreciative of that. I
think we all are. We need to taking a step further.
We need to follow up nonsensical word salad answers like
that with what are you talking about? You didn't answer
my question. I don't know what it is that you
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just said. It would have been completely legitimate for that
reporter to go just.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Really quick, Governor.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I can't make sense of what it is that you
just mentioned because you did not make any sense. You
sound like Gary Pusey right now for crying out loud.
All right, we have more audio of walls coming up
in just a moment.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
There's a fair warning.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I have a really interesting before and after from DFL
Representative Zach Stevenson. How two weeks ago he was very
worried about what Trump was doing regarding immigration and our
Somali community and not bringing attention to it, and then
suddenly now he's talking about it as if they're going
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to go and solve the problem in a completely hypocritical stance,
versus what he said just two weeks ago. I have
the audio evdence to share with you. And we'll get
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Speaker 8 (19:58):
Warning and I love your show all right.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Before we get back to.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Governor Tim Walls and his fraud prevention program press conference
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students if they happened to take a pro ice stance.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That's essentially what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
The Department of Justice has filed a racial discrimination lawsuit
against Minneapolis Public Schools. Maybe their lawyers should gear up
for a free speech lawsuit against the Dinah. The lawsuit
says MSP has given preferential treatment to black teachers, teachers
of color, and underrepresented teachers in violation of federal law,
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and according to the federal lawsuit, MPs and the collective
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belief underrepresented populations like by POC individuals otherwise known as black, Indigenous,
or people of color, discrimination is unacceptable and in all forms,
especially when it comes to hiring decisions. Attorney General Pambondi
said in the statement, our public education system in Minnesota
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Speaker 4 (22:21):
The Republicans need to start their own fraud prevention campaign
and it's running against Walls and Ellison, so that should
be a new campaign slogan. This is my fraud prevention
fire Ellison Firewalls.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I actually like that.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's the GOP fraud prevention program. Elect Republicans, thank you
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leaders at the Capitol criticized Walls at his announcement, arguing
that the new fraud Prevention Office adds bureaucracy without addressing
accountability for past failures. Lisa Damouth, House speaker and gubernatorial candidate.
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After burying his head into sand about fraud for nearly
two full terms, the governor has suddenly decided someone should
do something about it. The move is too little, too late.
He failed to root out fraud and his agencies. He
failed to hold anyone accountable, he failed to take responsibility
for what he allowed to happen, and now he wants
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to sweep all his failures under the rug. The time
for the program integrity was years ago. Now it's time
for accountability. House Republican floor leader Harry Niske tied the
announcement to political pressure. Facing the governor for nearly a decade,
Walls lost billions of taxpayer dollars to fraud and has
done nothing to stop it. Niska said, Now, with an
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election fast approaching and fraud his most serious political vulnerability,
the governor is scrambling to paper over his epic failures.
Minnesotan's understand the timing and see this for what it is,
a loitical calculation meant to save face. He did not
do a very good job on Friday. That's an understatement.
Let's get some more of his clips. His press conference
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started out with Walls going and criticizing the president.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Not a huge surprise here, And look.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
I have to assess this too. I understand when I
speak up it brings Donald Trump's petty vindictiveness to Minnesota,
and this is all about coming and attacking us.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
He didn't know anything about this.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
He doesn't know how Medicaid program works. The only thing
he knows about is going to double the cost over
the next week. But he doesn't know how these programs
work or anything about it. So he heard and somebody
told him the Somalis are stealing money and they're not
doing anything about throw it up there. That's not how
the US Attorney's office works.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's the beginning part of his statement here makes me laugh.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
And look, I have to assess this too. I understand
when I speak up it brings Donald Trump's petty vindictiveness
to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And this is all he said a simil comment when
he was speaking to the group in Seattle because he'd
run away out of stage to a couple of events
in the middle of the heightened scrutiny that was taking place,
but basically said that the fact that he says this
is being Walls like over the top outrageous things. It
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was the President's fault because it brings out the worst
in him. He can't even take responsibility for what he
has to say with his commentary.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Tim Walls is not a bright man.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
He constantly speaks on that on this in that he
doesn't know how to speak.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
And I think it's.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
Partly to do because every time he's speaking, he's lying
and trying to make everything up as he goes along.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
He has to go people.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
But I want to address at the top here two
of our fellow Minnesotans, two of our fellow American citizens,
two of our fellow Minnesota American citizens who were minding
their own business and living their lives were detained by
and arrested by Ice.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
They were not minding their own business, they were not
just going about living their lives. They were getting in
the way of federal law enforcement.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
These chaotic operations are doing nothing to make us safer.
These chaotic operations are not done in any coordination with
law enforcement in the middle of a blizzard.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And these are all such platent lies. They're only chaotic
because of the activists. That's the only reason why they're chaotic.
If it wasn't for activist observers as they like to
call themselves, showing up and getting in the way of
law enforcement, none of these situations would even be talked
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about beyond the criminal being arrested.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And then two this lie that they're not even working
with local law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You're preventing that from happening. The various city leaders of
your party are preventing that from happening.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
The absolute recklessness of doing some of this, and the
targeting of a specific community unconscionable, does nothing to either
address immigration. It certainly does nothing to address fraud.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
By the way, why is this targeting of a specific
community only go one direction ninety of the fraud being
perpetuated by one particular group.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Is that not a targeting of.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Taxpayer dollars tax paying citizens. I mean it could be
framed that way if you wanted to. I'm not saying
that it should, but given Governor Tim Wall's assessment of
the targeting of one community, you could take that, spin
it back around and be like, well, why is it
ninety percent of one community is targeting fraud wasting the
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taxpayer dollars of everybody else in programs?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
It is very specifically aimed and very racially motivated towards
a Somali community that matters greatly here. I know there
was a hearing yesterday to get some answers on this.
The DHS secretary left no reason, stood up and left
that hearing. I have not received a response to my
letters asking about explanations on what's happening. I would note
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that I was in that hearing and I stayed for
the eight and a half hours and answered all the questions.
I think the expectation would be in a moment like this,
where American citizens constitutional rights are being violated and put at.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Risk nobody which constitutional rights are being violid? Has anybody
been charged with violating somebody else's constitutional rights? Or is
he just making stuff up again. Here's more of what
Walls had to say from the press conference on Friday.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah, this is eighty people or so that have been
convicted in this, maybe some more in that out of
a broader ring. Medicaid broad Wall stretch across all racial demographics,
all ethnic groups. So I think it's really important for
us to note each each community's got this in their
own Mitch. But to blame them and say that they
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should have been responsible for stopping it, I think that's
a pretty hard reach. I think we continue to educate
folks about why.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
How was that a hard reach?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You had individuals that were being bought off so that
their children could be included and counted as being autistic
even though they weren't autistic.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
They were being silenced.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Using the fraudulent taxpayer money that was brought in from
these criminals. No, it's not a stretch to ask why
individuals in the community didn't speak out more. But we
know how Walls feels about whistleblowers, how frustrated he got
over the four hundred and some odd DHS whistleblowers pointing
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out what a failure he has been as governor of Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
They shouldn't commit crimes.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
You would hope that it's being taught both at home
and at schools and in our society. But no, I
think this idea that the Somali community is to blame
for this because they didn't do more. I think that's
how we got into this, and that's you know again,
don't I know, We're not going to lose the whole
plot here, all this work that's being done. Donald Trump
brought this to the attention like this is something brand new.
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This is not brand new, and it's been being worked on,
but he made it white hot and very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We know it's not brand new.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You've had individuals out there, You've had different outlets, American Experiment,
Alpha News, this Show that have been pointing to this fraud.
I've been talking about this. You didn't care, Governor Tim Walls.
You didn't care until it became a political liability for you.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Nobody is saying it's new.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
We've all been pointing out how interesting it's been watching
the rest of the country catch up to what we've
known about here for years.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Good morning, John, I hope you're doing well.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
Great show is always I've been over the course of
the last several years on the camp of Walls.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Just isn't that bright.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I've changed my tune with a lot.
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Of what I've seen.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
I think he's probably bright enough.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I just think the problem is he's evil. I think
he's got evil tendencies.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
I think he's corrupt in every sense of the work
and knows it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Just my opinion, Yeah, Alison, And this was shared yesterday
during the event that I attended. How when Walls arrived
on the scene, he had presented himself as this Democrat, moderate,
law abiding, well not law abiding, but a gun owner,
pro Second Amendment rights. But then once he became governor,
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he flipped the switch because it was more politically advantageous
for him to become a radical. And he slowly has
moved that way because that's who he truly is. Oh.
He also continues to push lies apart from fraud. He
had this to say about the Trump administration reporting a
deported military veteran to South Korea. He's pushing this Lae.
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Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Obviously, they took American citizens. They deported a US combat
veteran who served this nation in uniform and deported him
to South Korea country he has not been in since
he was eight years old.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
So I want to address yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
And Governor Jim Wlls, why did they deport him?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Say, June Park was deported because he had prior criminal
convictions and he's self deported. Just add it to the
list of lies. The governor goes and perpetuates. All right,
let's go here with this because this cracks me up.
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So I'm online and I'm doing my show prep and
Representative Zach Stevenson, he had this post regarding fraud just
a day or two ago that really stuck out to
me because it was like this too little, too late,
sudden outrage, burst of concern relating to fraud. So I
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did a little bit more digging, and I want to
set the stage here. So this was December third, about
two and a half weeks ago, Okay, where you had
Zach Stevenson saying, what's happening in Minnesota right now is
the worst of what Donald Trump does best. He's trying
to distract us from his own failures by shifting the
blame here's his comments.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
The worst of what Donald try T does best. It's
his go to move when he finds himself in trouble
on the political ropes. He distracts, divides, and demagogues. It's disgusting,
using real people as pawns as he desperately tries to
change the subject. Minnesotans know that their costs are rising
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because of his tariffs and his terrible big bill. Healthcare
costs in particular are soaring, and the President is desperate
to change the subject. But scapegoating the Somali community won't
decrease the cost of healthcare. The Somali community is part
of the fabric of Minnesota, and the House, DFL and
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all of Minnesota will always stand with the Somali community
when the President targets them for his own political benefit.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
So this was in the wake of Trump wanting to
end the temporary protected status that brought all of this
to the national attention, and thank you Trump for doing that.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
So, at the time, Representative Zach Stevens is like, can't
talk about the fraud, can't talk about illegal immigration, that's
political opportunism. But now that the fraud is front and Center,
he's all about calling out the fraud, and where in
his initial comments there on December third, taking issue with
anybody that would bring in the Somali elemented to fraud
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because it's factual, right, can't do that. That's horrible, that's racist.
And yet without naming that community specifically that's responsible for
ninety percent of that fraud, he's now drawing attention to
the crime being perpetuated that by that community and the
very thing the President spoke out against that Zach was
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so upset about less than two weeks ago. He posted
this online over the weekend. Every dollar of fraud is
unacceptable and I'm outraged by it. Every dollar of fraud
is one that should be going to help people. The
programs targeted by fraudsters serve homeless people, people with disabilities,
and kids with autism. What kind of person steals from
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kids with autism?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I laughed out loud when I saw this post.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Kay, where you been?
Speaker 7 (36:19):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
You're just now outraged because we've known about this for months,
if not longer.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Where was your outrage overfeeding our future?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I certainly couldn't find any comments from Zack Stevenson regarding that.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I mean he may have, but I couldn't find him
and I went looking.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
He goes on to right, we will continue to take
on the greedy scammers who cheap Minnesotans out of public
resources and steal from Minnesota taxpayers. Anyone who steals money
from the most vulnerable Minnesotans belongs in jail. Yeah, they're
all talking tough now, they're all talking like, hey, we're
going to tackle this.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
We care about it.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
They didn't give a rip until this became an issue
that could actually impact the impact them at the ballot box.
They couldn't have cared less if they tried, And now suddenly,
how jare a person steal from kids with autism? He's
not wrong, it's just the fact that only now he
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seems to actually care about it. Thanks for hanging out
on the show this morning. If you missed any portion,
check out the podcast. Thank you for listening to the podcast,
available on the iHeartRadio app Back.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
At it tomorrow six oh six.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
On tomorrow show, Devid carthin Stein Ross will make his
final appearance of twenty twenty five, and we'll continue to
cover the news of the day. You got more fraud
to dive into as well. Have yourself a fantastic Monday.
I'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Stay warm, bah, Well.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
What's going to trump? Derangement problem? Have you heard about
that problem?
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