November 7, 2025 • 40 mins
Jon is joined in studio by Kathryn Johnson and Grace Keating where the group discusses the government shutdown and Gov. Walz's recent spending. Sam drops some Jeep EV knowledge. AK Kamara joins and is fired up about the filibuster.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Don't forget Democrats always accuse Republicans of what they do.
The Mask of the Red Death is about a prince
who throws a giant party inside the walls of his
palace while sickness rages outside the palace.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Doesn't that sound more like Gavin Newsom? Yeah, it really does.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
As a matter of fact, there were several people in
the midst of the controversy, and it was earlier this week,
and I completely missed it, and we'll revisit it here
in just a moment where Trump had thrown a Halloween
party and that was themed on The Great Gatsby, and
I was unaware that this had actually erupted into an
(00:47):
online controversy. It was only yesterday when I was doing
prep for the show, after we or after I found
the clip of Governor Tim Walls when he said this,
and i'll replay it here, just a moment that I
went back and realized, oh, the Democrats were trying to
make a big deal about this Great gats beat and party.
And then this morning I just shared with you this
(01:09):
piece from Cavang and the Minnesota Star Tribune here on
Twin City's News Talk on Freedom Friday from the six
to five to one Carpet Next Day Install Studios, Trump's
Great Gatsby moment, partying it up while Americans Go Hungry.
I have a clip from Speaker Johnson where he was
actually asked about this in a press conference earlier this
week and gave a great answer and one again.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We'll get to this as well in just a moment, but.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The first of the podcasting Dynamic Duo is in studio.
Grace Keating from American Experiment in the American Experiment podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
No, I know that you're a fan of literature. I
am you a great Gatsby fan?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yes, I do. I just reread that book this year.
I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
How did you feel about Leonardo DiCaprio film, Oh, I
really liked it.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I've seen two of the movie adaptations. I remember liking
different things about each of them. I mean, he's such
a good Gatsby, you can't argue that. And just the
pageantry of the whole movie.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I really enjoy it. And the famous meme now of
him with the champagne. Can't be that we got a
good meme out of the movie. What more do you want?
In Sydney Sweeney's meme.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
We'll talk about that again when Catherine joins us in studio.
Were you aware that the Democrats were making a big
deal about this Gatsby party earlier this week?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
No, I was a little focused on the shutdown personally, so.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
When I went online because Walls made this comment, let
me play for you the clip.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The clip again.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I think we have shown that in many categories we
rank at or near the very top in quality of life.
But I think the focus in all of those races
is is that we have to bring down the cost
of life for many people. And that means things like childcare,
It means things like housing, and it certainly means things
like food and the food insecurity issue that we saw.
(02:45):
And again I don't know for what it's worth. My
pro tip to the President of VI is, don't hold
great Gatsby parties on the night before. You're going to
punish people for being hungry. It is not a sin
to be poor.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh gosh, so it is so I roll inducing, which
is exactly what Gregs just did in studio. He has
a tell It was right in that moment where he
pauses before he teased it up to do his little
his little line about Gatsby, and he.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Had that locked and loaded. Yeah, oh yeah, he was
ready to go. But again that was yesterday.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That controversy was earlier this week, so he's even late
to the game. Regarding the less criticism, which they had
completely moved off of, I mean that whole Gatsby argument
has gone the same route as the East Wing ballroom expansion,
which I really forgot about until yesterday too, And they
couldn't just completely just let it go.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's all gone now, doesn't matter anymore. Good morning, Catherine,
Good morning. How are we doing this morning?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Pretty good? How are you well? How familiar are you
with a great Gatsby?
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
I was kind of on the spark note side of things,
but I think I remember it mostly.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
This editorial that I read just at the at the
end of last hour, and if you missed, to be
sure to check out the podcast. It is such another
just I'm going to repeat myself, but it's such a
great example of you know, when it comes to Democrats again,
this could have been a Scooby Doo themed party and
it wouldn't have mattered.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They would have complained about it. But if he is
so evil and awful and bad.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Why do you have to spend this much time focusing
on something like a Halloween party that was pre planned
long before Democrats went to and shut the government down.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, like that's the best you've got.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
The article is also just like dripping in the elitism
that this person is criticizing.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It's so funny.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
She's like, I think she's making these wonderful literary ties
that are really I'm like, last look, I Greg Gatsby.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I did I read it? I read it.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
I think middle school. I mean, this isn't the most
incredible critique of I've ever seen, but it's just the elitism.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Speaker Johnson was asked about this earlier in the week.
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
We talk us let's screen between between you know.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
The zebrasstating what Republicans are doing?
Speaker 9 (05:05):
What about the slis screen.
Speaker 10 (05:06):
Another fact that the Trump administration is administring only part
of the SNAP program while President Trump is having a
Yagan courty at Laurel Lando.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I reject the premise of the question. Let me talk
about SNAP.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Okay, By the way, the president had an annual Halloween
theme party every year at Mari Lago. That's what he
went back to his obligatory tradition and I just discount
what you're trying to do there. The SNAP benefit is
very important question. The White House has been over backwards,
as we've recounted here every morning, to make sure that
(05:38):
Americans pain is mitigated as much as possible. Were reduced
as much as possible, so we've got the troops paid.
They made creative solutions for that. The Wick funding for women, infants,
and children, and SNAP came to a legal crossroads because
the legal analysis said that you cannot use the contingency
fund if the underlying fund was not fluent. I explained,
I've explained that into detail here multiple times to courts disagree.
(06:00):
So what did the President do and good faith showing
again that he's willing to bend over backwards to help
the American people when Democrats are not. He went to
the court and said, fine, show me how to do it,
because we don't see the path. And so the courts
have ordered that they filed a brief yesterday or some
response yesterday in the court that they'll give as much
as is there. Remember, the contingency Fund only has a
(06:22):
roughly five billion and it costs roughly nine billion for
a month of snap benefits. So I think the arrangement
is they're going to give half at least half to everyone.
But here's the problem. It's very complex, is that it's
administered through the states, and you have to recalculate all
the allocations and how the checks go out. You can't
just flip a switch and do that. It's a lot
of work that goes into it. So I can tell
you that the President is dialed in on this. The
(06:44):
President is trying to protect and cover the American people,
as he always does. The President is trying to get
the government opened again, and the Republicans have voted fourteen
times to do it, and the Democrats have voted fourteen
times not to do it, to keep the government closed.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's the story. Speaker Mike Johnson does not get enough credit.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
I was just thinking that that was a perfect response.
I mean, that's the crucial point is that Trump has
done everything to mitigate the damage that the Democrats are
doing in Congress. But they just they can't blame anyone
except Trump. It's their one thing. But Mike Johnson, speaking
of taking the bait, he never takes the bait. It's
incredible more.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
People need to use that. I reject the premise line.
So many people get lost in the weeds just accepting
whatever weird question the Democrats and liberals and leftist media
have set up for them.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I really really appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
But I also love that you can hear in his
voice that like you can.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Just hear how tired he is.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
He's like, I've said this two of you guys like
ten times in the last week. I explained it in detail.
We have to go over this again. I just add
so much to it.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
There's an interesting there's an interesting side conversation that could
be had with all of this in through all of
these controversies that we talk about on the show on
a weekly basis, what you guys cover on the American
Experiment podcast, and we played these clips from Johnson, the
points that both of you guys made, Sidney Sweeney's interview
(08:07):
with GQ, and how she's so so eloquently and you know,
very quietly just handled that GQ interviewer. But it really
is helping individuals when it comes to facing these debates
on a daily basis, because for the longest time, prior
(08:28):
to social media, you know, not everybody got in positions
like this, you weren't online having to go and argue
your points, trying to go and make cogent responses to
ridiculous allegations. It's a difficult thing for people to deal
with that have never faced that type of political appusition
and debate, and now people are and what we're seeing
(08:51):
are these great examples of just how conservatives are handling
these these situations so well. You can learn from Johnson,
you can learn from Sidney Sweeney, of all people, I
assume she's a conservative, but honestly, I don't care. I
love the fact that she just stays a political.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And doesn't take the bait on this stuff, which is.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Something that a lot of people can absolutely go in
and learn from.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And that's exactly what I got from her interview, which
should have been the goal.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
She's she's saying, I'm staying out of it.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
If I have an issue I want to speak on,
then you'll hear about it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But this isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
That was the smartest thing for her to do. And
other actors and actresses should, you know, take a page
out of her book.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Yeah, I don't think she's a conservative. Johnny, You've probably
never seen youph you.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, well I've seen no, I've never seen that.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
You know, it doesn't give conservative, I would say, vibes
doesn't scream.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Conservative doesn't scream certainly not.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
In the clothing department from what I've heard, precisely Okay,
So however, I think she feels she feels the.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Waves turning and people are appreciating more and more when
people like her and people like my Johnson don't fall
for the traps that people in the media transept for them.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So this was rather a saren di. I was not
aware of this.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So I have a couple of talkbacks that I want
to play regarding Governor Tim Walls and his comments. But
in the middle of when these talkbacks were rolling in,
Liz Colin from Alpha News posted about this, and I
had not heard. Let's go to a Judy on the
iHeartRadio app talkback brought to you by Lyndall Realty.
Speaker 11 (10:18):
Governor Wallace is really going to be out there talking
about a great Gatsby Party. Oh my gosh, man, you're
out there making multiple charges on your state credit card
that is paid for by taxes that I actually had
to pay so you could sit and buy fifteen thousand
dollars worth of flowers. I mean, who takes this man?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Seriously?
Speaker 11 (10:37):
Look at all these people. The fraud is everywhere. Oh sorry,
that just set me off today.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I had not heard about this and I'm looking at Yeah,
people in Governor Jim Wallas's office spent fifteen thousand dollars
on flower and furniture using state credit cards and split
the purchases into two transactions to avoid the five thousand
dollars spending limit. And this cuts on top of a
piece that I've been holding up on from your guy,
from you guys from American Experiment, wherein I think it
(11:04):
was John feelin A highlighted what the four hundred and
thirty thousand dollars legal bill that came attached to his
congressional testimony.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
He he is the.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Height of hypocrisy here in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
He really is.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
He is the poster child for the pot killing Wait
is it the pot called black?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, he's that.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
And by the way, you can vote for Governor Wallace's
four hundred and thirty thousand dollars legal bills at Golden
Turkey and then dot com if you want that to
be our Golden Turkey of the Year.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well played, very good plug well played, nicely packed, nicely done.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
That's my coms training coming through.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It was better than my promotion of the radio show
on your podcast this week.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I gotta mention, Oh, week we covered it. Oh did
you okay? So we helped you out? Yeah, I completely.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It's like, do we ever even say where I was from?
I don't think that we just assume everybody knows who
I am.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Right that.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
It is crazy that all of the it's everything happening
in Governor Walls's office and Peggy Flannigans for that matter,
with the with the inability to run a.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well oiled machine.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
They have all of these these awful things going on
that they were called out in that report, and it's
just so indicative of what's happening in our state. They
can't run their own small office, and yet they're in
charge of the funding for our entire state.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Coming up, we're going to dive into the filibuster. I
have a clip here from our adopted senator from Wisconsin
and some clips from Trump yesterday, and on the show,
I had said that, you know, because I'm of the
opinion that Democrats want Trump to go and nuke the
filibuster for if and when they go and take control
so they can do whatever it is they want to
do and not be held responsible for doing it themselves.
(12:40):
Trump made some really good arguments yesterday as to why
Republicans need to do it now, and so does Ron Johnson.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
We'll play those coming up.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
We'll hear from our in studio guests on a Freedom
Friday again, Catherine Johnson and Grace Keating from the American
Experiment podcast, and we'll have ak Kamara, RNC Committeemen and
business owner joining us right after thirty plus more of
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Speaker 2 (13:40):
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accepted yours.
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I was Grace's first follow I know it's right. I'll
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I yeah, eight following one follower. I literally got flagged
for suspicious activity by Twitter yesterday when I logged in,
because like they considered that log in unusual.
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It I to you use it clearly because you just
called it. Twitter's there's that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's fair. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
It is a Freedom Friday. You're on an off topic
comments all morning long. This one's going to go to
uh SAM and the Master Control Booth.
Speaker 14 (14:34):
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For electric hybrid, A little motor.
Speaker 14 (14:49):
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five miles on electric lonely, that seems kind of worthless.
Anybody got any reviews on this?
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Well, first of this one, it seems as if you'veigured
out what for by e mens, this is a little
off the beaten path to do car talk.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But Sam, I know you drive around a jeep. Would
you can respond to him?
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Yeah?
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Uh, not wrong for this particular hybrid. For jeeps anyway,
they get about twenty five miles on a full charge,
which might seem kind of worthless. However, if you're doing
a lot of local driving, then it actually works out
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do a lot of highway driving, it's probably you're not
going to see much return on it.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Wow, it's the return again though, the more you know. Yeah,
right there, thanks Sam, I appreciate that.
Speaker 15 (15:38):
Let's go here, Donald Trump, Okay, I get it. You
can have a party. Can you think about optics? You
gave the communist cannon fodder? Why do you do that?
That's not very bright, that's pretty tone dead. I don't
care if you have a party, but this is not
(15:58):
the right to to do that. That's pretty dumb.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
There was a time, and it was a while ago,
where I used to feel that way. I just don't anymore.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what Trump does. There's
no other simple way to put another way to put it.
It just simply doesn't matter if he wants to have
a Gatsby party at the White House. Anybody who's rational
enough knows it's Halloween themed.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
They picked a theme, they went with it.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
They probably had no idea because that was an incredibly
elaborate party. As a matter of fact, I can guarantee
they had no idea they would be in the middle
of a shutdown and that moment, snap benefits would be
expiring because of Democrats keeping the government shut down for
as long as they did.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It doesn't matter what Trump does.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I was just talking to someone yesterday who has the
same issue wit you know, with Trump in general, and
I feel the same way. There was a time when
I cared about optics perception. It's part of the game.
But the second you start playing that today in twenty
twenty five, already lost to a certain extent, to liberals.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Sometimes it helps to like think of the other headline
it could have been, if he canceled the party, they'd
go track down a kid who was supposed to go
to this party and is now devastated, and that would
be the thing exactly so.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Or they would do the taco Oh Trump always chickens out.
Oh see, he knows how bad this is for the party.
He knows, he understands this is a bad. Look at
how devastating that this shutdown is for him, so much
so that he had to cancel this party.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Wow, look at the Democrats really got him on the ropes.
Speaker 17 (17:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I just read that I just wrote the headlines. That
was really good.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Thank you very much. You know, it's almost like they
paid me for a reason. I know, I'm surprised to
you sometimes though. This one's for Grayson Catherine Hey.
Speaker 18 (17:47):
John an American Experiment team. I just want to say
I've been listening to the American Experiment podcast. It's great stuff.
The only thing I wish is sometimes I could send
it in talkbacks like I do with John to the
team there. And also I wish there was more, you know,
I don't know if the if they could make more
but they did. I'd listened to it. Have a great
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day and a wonderful weekend.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
There you go, American Experiment Team.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Thanks man, Oh my gosh, thank you for listening.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
That was amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I do want I want a talkback system. I love
the talkbacks.
Speaker 10 (18:20):
I know.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
The only version we have of that is comments. We
you know, we get a lot of YouTube comments. We
read every single one. We love reading them. But I
don't have like a live version of that.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, well, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I mean the way technology is today, just give out
your phone numbers.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
People can leave you voicemails.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, you know, it's kind of unlimited, and you can
just plug in and just share the share the voicemails anyway.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
That's Grace would get a bunch of calls about her
eyebrows apparently.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah, that's my clem to fame Best in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's about time I had a Oh. I also want
to mention.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It that's too late now long too late for me,
right right? If I ever added the pet, I'm gonna
name him long pause. I decided that earlier this morning.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's like the funniest pandem ever. Seriously, if I hadn't
if we hadn't named Artemis. Artemis.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I think long Pause would have been the runner up.
But you know, oh see, I'll phrase it this way.
I'll make it this way. It's people will figure it out.
But I've already opened my mouth. There are some social
media platforms wherein you can call.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
From the social media platform. Did you guys know this to.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
The person, So like your phone is inside of the
platform and somebody can make a call through the particular one.
I had a listener that was like desperately trying to
get a hold of me earlier this week this week, well,
and they were very concerned about something and they weren't
getting answers and they were hoping that I could. So
my phone kept ringing and I'm like, why is my
why is that? Why is that platform calling me? And
(19:47):
then I and then I realized, like, oh there was
a you know, so we had a very nice exchange.
They were just having difficulty with an issue, and I
was like, yeah, I don't typically go and communicate with
listeners in that fashion through my personal phone. In the
middle of while I'm watching you know, Halloween, you know,
baking Challenge with Glimpse Behind the.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Curtains, which was fantastic this last season.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
By the way, I just need to tell you, all right,
here's a quick clip from Trump. We have ak Kamara
joining us in studio coming up here in just a moment.
I also want to get to this clip from our
adopted senator from Wisconsin talking about the filibuster. The Democrat
election wins have complicated the shutdown talks and also this
whole you know, this whole debate now with the filibuster,
(20:29):
I think is actually keeping the Democrats from reopening the
government because they're seeing how this plays out, and so
are conservatives. So let me play you just a quick
clip from Trump and we'll get to your thoughts and
the thoughts of our guests this morning as ak arrives,
and it was really this one and what Trump wanted
to do that started to push me further and further
(20:50):
towards nuking the filibuster.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
But can you imagine when they vote almost unanimously against
voter ID. All we want is voter IDE. You go
to a grocery store, you have to get ID. You
go to a gas station, you give ID. But for voting,
they want no voter ID. There's only for one reason,
because they cheat. We would pass that in fifteen minutes
on the.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
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Speaker 3 (21:17):
R and C Committeeman in Businessman ak Kamar making his
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Thank you, by the way for having me on your
one hundred episode this week. I had a really good
had a really good time.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 19 (21:44):
John.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
If anyone listening did.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Not see that show, you should go check it out
American Experiment Podcast on YouTube. You can see John wearing
these amazing glasses we got for him. Thet's say one hundred.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You should really not miss that.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I will say I was disappointing you didn't use I
gave you a really good screen grab with me with glasses.
I just want to say we can still that was
a little I was like, you know, that was a
really good thumbnail, but I know you guys should change
the thumbnails up as of late, so I didn't take
much offense to it. I mean just a little tics
a little well circulate it too. I know, I'm pretty
(22:15):
demanding talking about the filibuster. Let me play Donald Trump
again from yesterday. I'll show this one. This is this
is kind of a prequel to the clip here that
he or or should say the sequel to the clip.
But talking about voter ID and what he wants to
do in nuking the philibuster.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
Can you imagine when they vote almost unanimously against voter ID.
All we want is voter ID. You go to a
grocery store, you have to give ID. You go to
a gas station, you give ID. But for voting, they
want no voter ID. There's only for one reason, because
they cheat. We would pass that in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Now here's more of what Trump had to say on
explaining why he wants to terminate the filibuster.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
Member Republicans, regardless of the humor shutdown, the demo Democrats
will terminate the philibuster the first chance they get. They
will pack the Supreme Court of the United States, pick
up two states. That's a lot of states, and add
at least eight electoral votes. Their two objectors are gone.
Remember cinema and mansion they're gone. Don't be weak, don't
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be stupid. Republicans, fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Win, win win.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
We will immediately end the extortioner shutdown, get all of
our agenda pass, and make life so good for Americans
that these deranged Democrat politicians will never again have the
chance to destroy America. They try to destroy your country. Republicans,
you will rue the day that you didn't terminate the philibuster.
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Be tough, be smart, and win. This is much bigger
than the shutdown. This is the survival of our country.
Terminate the filibuster, and let's live the great life that
this country is capable of life.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
He makes an interesting point, is one that I hadn't
thought of until my wife actually brought it up. Melinda
brought it up yesterday, of Christian cinema and Joe Manchin
not being a part of the equation anymore. I do
want to play Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson here in just
a moment, but I want to get your thoughts. I know, Grace,
you had a visible reaction on this. Did you want
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to comment on what Trump had to say.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's not an intelligent reaction at all. I just I
get so distracted.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
He's making great points, and I get so distracted by
his speaking cadence and his Trump style.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
It's just such a gift.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I'm so happy this is the first year of his
presidency and we have so many more years to come
of speeches like that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It makes me so happy.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Yeah, I you know, you can't help but love him
and love what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
He's so fired up.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
But at the same time, I just question if it's
not going to be used so much more by Democrats
than Republicans in the future.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So this is where the gamble comes into play.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
And yesterday and I've gone back and forth because there's
not a real clear answer on this issue.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It really does come down to a gamble.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And when Trump talks about and we've had some talkbacks
that have rolled in and I'll get to these here
in just a moment, when Trump talks about going shoring
up voter integrity, cutting off mail and voting only in.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The ways that you should be.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
When it comes to those that are, you know, either
incapable of going out on election day or you know,
military serving overseas, I know there are other reasons.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I'm just laying out.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Laying laying out a few when you you know, make
it a requirement to show proof of ID. You take
away the ability as best as we possibly can to
bring about integrity. Trump makes a very very good point
that it would be increasingly difficult for Democrats to go
and win elections, in which case then you wouldn't have
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to worry about them going and using the lack of
a filibuster to go and undo a bunch of things
if they don't have power. We'll go into a bit
more of a deep dive on this because I have
an article here and it really sort of opened up
my eyes to how fluid the filibuster really is and
how you can go and sort of change it at
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your will, eliminated and bring it back, which underscores the
fact that this is being used for, you know, political
gamesmanship by both parties. Before we talk with ak Kamar
and get his thoughts on this, here is our adopted
senator from Wisconsin, and this was another one where I
really respect what Ron Johnson has to say. You know,
he is a very even keeled senator, in my opinion,
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incredibly pragmatic, and when he's making comments like this, my
ears tend to prick up.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Do you agree, what do you make of blowing up
the filibuster.
Speaker 19 (26:47):
I've always been a big supporter of the filibuster. It
has stopped America from going down to socialist path in decades.
But the President is right, and I told him at
this point in time, he's one hundred percent correct. The
Democrats purged the last two senators who held out and
support the filbuster, so we know they have no respect
for the filbuster. I don't think there will be a
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Democrat Senate candidate running for office that won't pledge to
again end the filibuster.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So we need to strike first now.
Speaker 19 (27:16):
When the Democrats eliminate the filibuster, it'll all be about
their maintenance of power. As a President laid out, there
will be more senators packing the Supreme Court. It will
all be about their acquisition and maintenance of power.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
If we're to do it, it will be for.
Speaker 19 (27:30):
The benefit of the American people. We'll further secure a border,
we'll secure our elections. You know, I would love I
would love to sit down with Democrats to repair the
damage done by a Bomacare and transition to a system
that actually works, rather than continue to throw hundreds of
billions of dollars at a completely failed system. We're having
a hearing today in my committee. I'm assessing the damage
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of Obamacare. If Democrats would actually acknowledge that, admit what
a miserable failure of Bamacare is, we could fix that
for them and public. So again, I hate, I hate
the fact that Democrats are going to blow up the filibuster,
but they will. We have to acknowledge that awful reality,
and I think we probably need to act first.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I would be totally on board.
Speaker 13 (28:14):
With getting rid of the filibuster using the nuclear option
if it were a guarantee that the Republicans in the
House and Senate would get a lot of the Trump
stuff passed, the Save Act, everything he's signed getting an
executive order for If that was guaranteed, then yes, absolutely
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nuke the filibuster.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Business owner R and C Committeeman Ak Kamara.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Good morning. What's that buddy? You know, it's a beautiful morning.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
I hate the fact that we, you know, had to
fall back, but we didn't have enough political capital to
not implement this terrible daylight savings time.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Please don't start talking about it again. I do that
just is just for cat drop.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
By the way, we still start talking about it again,
we need.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
We need that drop.
Speaker 16 (29:07):
I'm already on it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
While you're on that.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Real quick, Ak, before I get your thoughts, I want
to drop in one more talkback relating to the filibuster,
and then we'll get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 20 (29:17):
Good morning, John's covering Pomonamiah. I have one question about
the pillip buster. If they can nuke it, why don't
they nuke it take care of everything that they need
to pass, pass all the appointments that are waiting, getting
all work done, and then reinstated.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Is that possible.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
It is possible from from what I've read, I'm actually
quite surprised the filibuster has never been set in stone.
I have a list here of all of the different
times that we've we've tweaked it. I think there's a
matter of precedent that is concerning for individuals to just go, oh,
we're going to remove it, pass all our stuff, or
putting it back in again.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Because it's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
The Democrats could just go and do the same thing
when they go and get into power, So it doesn't
really change the dynamics all that much.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But Ak, Kamara, nuke.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
The filibuster, keep the filibuster. Move on to talk about
daylight savings time.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
What are your thoughts on Oh, yeah, we definitely need
to nuke the filibuster. I made a video about this.
You can follow me on Exit Real ak Kamara also
over on TikTok at ak Kamara and I broke it down, like, listen,
this idea that we live in a society where democrats
respect the rights of Senate rules and Congressional rules of
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decorum and not trampling all over the minority. That time
doesn't exist anymore, and that's the reality. We have to
understand what time it is. Democrats are in a position
where they will constantly lie on everything. If you go
on X, it can be a little bit black piled
right now because every senator is lying. I don't care
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if it's supposed to be someone that's more moderate. All
of them are lying about everything. So the moment that
they have the opportunity to kill the filibuster, they will
because they do not care about the korum, they do
not care about rules of order. That's not what time
it is. So I agree that President with President Trump,
Republicans in the Senate have lived in this time where
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they think that these things matter, and that precedent matters.
Wake up and realize where we're at in this country.
If we do not do if we don't neot the
filibuster President Trump's entire agenda that he codified, that he
passed through executive order that needs to be codified, that's
not going to happen. And so if he does not
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deliver for the American people right now, we are going
to lose power in twenty six and then the House
will be neutered, and then the American people will blame
Republicans as they did on Tuesday. That's what happened. Like
make no mistake, it's because Republicans haven't been able to
deliver on their promises.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
It's because of the Democrats.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
They're stopping and they're not even trying to negotiate in
good faith. But yeah, we need a nuke the filibuster,
pass and codify President Trump's executive orders to make America
great again. And at the end of all of this,
if Democrats learn their lesson, then we can maybe go
back to an era of decorum.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
What'll be interesting to see. I want to add a
new wrinkle to this.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, because if Democrats begin to believe that Trump is
going to or that the Republicans are going to go
and nuke the filibuster, and they believe that the GOP
will call a lessons past this stuff. How quickly will
Democrats then come to the table be like whoa, whoa, whoa,
let's get the government back open again to keep them
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to prevent them from nuking the philibuster. It's an angle
on this that I haven't heard talked about yet, but
I can absolutely see that happening if suddenly, now the
Republicans because here's a quick clip. This is uh, Tommy,
do we do Tubervilla Tubberville every single time I say
Tuberville Tuberville? Okay, do you guys can go Tubberville?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Okay, il a coin.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
To say you're the deciding vote. Grace, Now you just
threw a monkey ration.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Of the situation on COM's Professional All.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Right, Let's here is Senator Tommy Tuberville on his thoughts
on the filibuster.
Speaker 10 (33:12):
Okay, if we need to bust it, let's bust it.
Let's knock it down to fifty one and let the
Senate know that. Listen, the power needs to go to
the president and let him get something done. If we don't,
we're gonna lose our country. It's gonna be over with.
And so he's got three years. He's the last Trump
that will have in office. He's hard nos, he believed
in this country. Let's give him some support. If he
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wants to blow up the filibuster, I'm all for it.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Well, and again, I wonder if a part of the
play might be all this talk about getting rid of
the filibuster and having individuals like Senator you know, our
adopted senator from Wisconsin, Ron Johnson jump on board, might
be a play to try to get Democrats to come
to the table to open things back up, because I
can imagine that they would not want Trump to go
and do that because if they do pass the Save
Act and shore up our election integrity, Trump is right
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is going to make it incredibly difficult, or it should say,
at least more difficult for Democrats to go and win
elections heading in the next year.
Speaker 18 (34:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
Again, what I'll say is that if the idea that
we need to be able to keep this rule in place,
because that's all this is. This is a Senate rule,
this is not in the constitution. The idea is we
should be able to stop the majority from trampling on
the minority. And they even change it because before you
used to actually have to physically stand up and hold
actual space right, And then they say, okay, and then
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never mind, we'll just do that. You have to have
sixty votes. Now there is again this cat and mouse game.
Republicans because we care about order and because we actually
care about principles, like actual values that we can say
and loyalty, these things Democrats have none. The only value
that they actually care about is power, and that used
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to be just the far left, but that's become all Democrats.
And so this idea that again you change the rule
if it really matters, and you pass it all change
it back. But I promise you the moment that Democrats
have a fifty plus one percent majority in the Senate,
they will nuke the filibuster because they don't care.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I agree with all of that. Ak what I want
to see from Republicans is exactly what they're going to
do once they nuke the filibuster.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I could get on board with this, I still hesitant.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
I think it really helps Democrats in the long run
more than Republicans. They're the ones constantly trying to pass things, constantly,
trying to add entitlements, things like that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
That are hard to get rid of. But if the
Republicans say, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
We're gonna, you know, tackle election security, we're going to
work on immigration, we're going to do this, this, and
this immediately, then I could get on board. But I
don't totally trust them to use the moment effectively.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
The filibuster itself.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
I'm working off of essentially a cheat sheet here of
filibuster history. So between nineteen sixty nine and twenty fourteen,
there have been one hundred and sixty sixty one exceptions
two in supermajority requirement. Senate majorities from both parties have
approved carve outs other changes related to executive branch and
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judicial nominations, budget reconciliation measures.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Even the sixty vote.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Threshold I ak, which you mentioned a moment ago, has
not always been a defining feature of the filibuster. In
nineteen seventy five, the Senate voted to lower the threshold
from sixty seven votes to sixty as one response to
the demand for reforms in the aftermath of Watergate. So yeah,
I mean this whole this whole article gets into how
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the filibuster has always been subject to revision and even
if there's not support for its full elimination, now there's
ample president for further modifications that allow passage for other legislation.
And again, I think a lot of this comes down
to these political games that are being played right now
because of the narratives that are that are forming, and
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who can best, you know, angle taking advantage of either
removing it or keeping it in place for you know,
political expediency.
Speaker 8 (37:04):
I would just again, I would even ask everyone at
this table, do you believe that there's a world that
exists that if today, right now Democrats had fifty one
votes in the Senate, that they would not nuke the philibuster.
The answer to me is gonna be no, because they
tried to do it. And the only reason that they
weren't able to nuke the philibuster is because Christen Cinema
and Joe Manchin said no. But that part of the
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Democrat party's gone. The only one right now is John Fennerman.
But that's just one. And I'll be honest, I think
that if the pressure was on him to do all
of these things, because he's still he's still on the
left right, he's this progressive whatever, he's gonna fall with
them and say, no, this is gonna be too good.
We have to help America in whatever way, possible, shape
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or form that they want to do. And so that's
that's to me again, what time is it? What are
we holding on to do? We not really think that
if Democrats get back in power, they won't nuke the philibuster,
pack the Supreme Court, open up the borders, codify all
these horrible laws that they've been pushing for that the
philibuster is held back. I just don't think that they're
in that moment anymore that they're going to stop. That's
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where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Earlier this week, my answer would have been that earlier
this week, my opinion was that Democrats were too scared
to do it on their own, because in the past
they've been too scared to go and do it on
their own. I don't believe that anymore. I'm with you
now that I've spent more time with this and bringing
in the Mansion cinema aspect of it. I'm with you
on Fetterman as well. And we're just in completely uncharted
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territory in terms of the way that Democrats have just
dug their heels in on nothing but total opposition. If
they have the opportunity to nuke it, get rid of it,
and move forward on their own agenda just to try
to paint Trump as as a tyrant as they've been doing,
they absolutely will. And to that point, let me wrap
up this hour before we'll talk more about this. Coming up,
we are going to have a special guest joining us
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here in just a moment on Twin Cities News Talk.
But this is James Carville on a podcast talking about
this very issue when what Democrats will do if they
were to retain power in Congress.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I want to.
Speaker 17 (39:08):
Talk to just Chief Justice Roberts, just Toledo, just Bared,
Just Kavanaugh, just gorsh Arsage. I might be forgetting one.
I'm gonna tell you what's going to happen. A Democrat
is going to be elected in twenty twenty eight. You
know that, I know that he's gonna be a Democratic House,
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gonna be a Democratic Senator. The Democratic President is going
to announce eight Special Transition Advisory Committee on the reform
of the Supreme Court that we could have. Our third
branch of government has lost the faith and trusted American people,
and as president, I'm going to do anything along.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
He's going to.
Speaker 17 (39:51):
Point a blue ribbon maybe Judge Luti and the Dean
of the you know, just the usual suspect, all right,
and they're going I recommend that the number of Supreme
Court justices go from nine to thirteen.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
That's going to happen to people. That's going to happen
to you. They're going to win. They're going to do
some blue.
Speaker 17 (40:12):
Ribbon panel of distinguished jurists and they are going to
recommend thirteen, and a Democratic Senate and House going to
pass it, and the Democratic president is going to decide
it because they have to do an intervention so we
can have a Supreme Court that the American people trusting you.
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So just keep that in the bag of your mind.
And I would bet a lot of money if that's
what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Talking about it again, what are you doing? Democrats?
Speaker 9 (40:45):
They have what's called the Trump derangement problem.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Have you heard about that problem?
Don't forget Democrats always accuse Republicans of what they do.
The Mask of the Red Death is about a prince
who throws a giant party inside the walls of his
palace while sickness rages outside the palace.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Doesn't that sound more like Gavin Newsom? Yeah, it really does.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
As a matter of fact, there were several people in
the midst of the controversy, and it was earlier this week,
and I completely missed it, and we'll revisit it here
in just a moment where Trump had thrown a Halloween
party and that was themed on The Great Gatsby, and
I was unaware that this had actually erupted into an
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online controversy. It was only yesterday when I was doing
prep for the show, after we or after I found
the clip of Governor Tim Walls when he said this,
and i'll replay it here, just a moment that I
went back and realized, oh, the Democrats were trying to
make a big deal about this Great gats beat and party.
And then this morning I just shared with you this
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piece from Cavang and the Minnesota Star Tribune here on
Twin City's News Talk on Freedom Friday from the six
to five to one Carpet Next Day Install Studios, Trump's
Great Gatsby moment, partying it up while Americans Go Hungry.
I have a clip from Speaker Johnson where he was
actually asked about this in a press conference earlier this
week and gave a great answer and one again.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We'll get to this as well in just a moment, but.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The first of the podcasting Dynamic Duo is in studio.
Grace Keating from American Experiment in the American Experiment podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
No, I know that you're a fan of literature. I
am you a great Gatsby fan?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yes, I do. I just reread that book this year.
I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
How did you feel about Leonardo DiCaprio film, Oh, I
really liked it.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I've seen two of the movie adaptations. I remember liking
different things about each of them. I mean, he's such
a good Gatsby, you can't argue that. And just the
pageantry of the whole movie.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I really enjoy it. And the famous meme now of
him with the champagne. Can't be that we got a
good meme out of the movie. What more do you want?
In Sydney Sweeney's meme.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
We'll talk about that again when Catherine joins us in studio.
Were you aware that the Democrats were making a big
deal about this Gatsby party earlier this week?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
No, I was a little focused on the shutdown personally, so.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
When I went online because Walls made this comment, let
me play for you the clip.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The clip again.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I think we have shown that in many categories we
rank at or near the very top in quality of life.
But I think the focus in all of those races
is is that we have to bring down the cost
of life for many people. And that means things like childcare,
It means things like housing, and it certainly means things
like food and the food insecurity issue that we saw.
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And again I don't know for what it's worth. My
pro tip to the President of VI is, don't hold
great Gatsby parties on the night before. You're going to
punish people for being hungry. It is not a sin
to be poor.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh gosh, so it is so I roll inducing, which
is exactly what Gregs just did in studio. He has
a tell It was right in that moment where he
pauses before he teased it up to do his little
his little line about Gatsby, and he.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Had that locked and loaded. Yeah, oh yeah, he was
ready to go. But again that was yesterday.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That controversy was earlier this week, so he's even late
to the game. Regarding the less criticism, which they had
completely moved off of, I mean that whole Gatsby argument
has gone the same route as the East Wing ballroom expansion,
which I really forgot about until yesterday too, And they
couldn't just completely just let it go.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's all gone now, doesn't matter anymore. Good morning, Catherine,
Good morning. How are we doing this morning?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Pretty good? How are you well? How familiar are you
with a great Gatsby?
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
I was kind of on the spark note side of things,
but I think I remember it mostly.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
This editorial that I read just at the at the
end of last hour, and if you missed, to be
sure to check out the podcast. It is such another
just I'm going to repeat myself, but it's such a
great example of you know, when it comes to Democrats again,
this could have been a Scooby Doo themed party and
it wouldn't have mattered.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
They would have complained about it. But if he is
so evil and awful and bad.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Why do you have to spend this much time focusing
on something like a Halloween party that was pre planned
long before Democrats went to and shut the government down.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, like that's the best you've got.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
The article is also just like dripping in the elitism
that this person is criticizing.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It's so funny.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
She's like, I think she's making these wonderful literary ties
that are really I'm like, last look, I Greg Gatsby.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I did I read it? I read it.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
I think middle school. I mean, this isn't the most
incredible critique of I've ever seen, but it's just the elitism.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Speaker Johnson was asked about this earlier in the week.
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
We talk us let's screen between between you know.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
The zebrasstating what Republicans are doing?
Speaker 9 (05:05):
What about the slis screen.
Speaker 10 (05:06):
Another fact that the Trump administration is administring only part
of the SNAP program while President Trump is having a
Yagan courty at Laurel Lando.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I reject the premise of the question. Let me talk
about SNAP.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
Okay, By the way, the president had an annual Halloween
theme party every year at Mari Lago. That's what he
went back to his obligatory tradition and I just discount
what you're trying to do there. The SNAP benefit is
very important question. The White House has been over backwards,
as we've recounted here every morning, to make sure that
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Americans pain is mitigated as much as possible. Were reduced
as much as possible, so we've got the troops paid.
They made creative solutions for that. The Wick funding for women, infants,
and children, and SNAP came to a legal crossroads because
the legal analysis said that you cannot use the contingency
fund if the underlying fund was not fluent. I explained,
I've explained that into detail here multiple times to courts disagree.
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So what did the President do and good faith showing
again that he's willing to bend over backwards to help
the American people when Democrats are not. He went to
the court and said, fine, show me how to do it,
because we don't see the path. And so the courts
have ordered that they filed a brief yesterday or some
response yesterday in the court that they'll give as much
as is there. Remember, the contingency Fund only has a
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roughly five billion and it costs roughly nine billion for
a month of snap benefits. So I think the arrangement
is they're going to give half at least half to everyone.
But here's the problem. It's very complex, is that it's
administered through the states, and you have to recalculate all
the allocations and how the checks go out. You can't
just flip a switch and do that. It's a lot
of work that goes into it. So I can tell
you that the President is dialed in on this. The
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President is trying to protect and cover the American people,
as he always does. The President is trying to get
the government opened again, and the Republicans have voted fourteen
times to do it, and the Democrats have voted fourteen
times not to do it, to keep the government closed.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's the story. Speaker Mike Johnson does not get enough credit.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
I was just thinking that that was a perfect response.
I mean, that's the crucial point is that Trump has
done everything to mitigate the damage that the Democrats are
doing in Congress. But they just they can't blame anyone
except Trump. It's their one thing. But Mike Johnson, speaking
of taking the bait, he never takes the bait. It's
incredible more.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
People need to use that. I reject the premise line.
So many people get lost in the weeds just accepting
whatever weird question the Democrats and liberals and leftist media
have set up for them.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I really really appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
But I also love that you can hear in his
voice that like you can.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Just hear how tired he is.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
He's like, I've said this two of you guys like
ten times in the last week. I explained it in detail.
We have to go over this again. I just add
so much to it.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
There's an interesting there's an interesting side conversation that could
be had with all of this in through all of
these controversies that we talk about on the show on
a weekly basis, what you guys cover on the American
Experiment podcast, and we played these clips from Johnson, the
points that both of you guys made, Sidney Sweeney's interview
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with GQ, and how she's so so eloquently and you know,
very quietly just handled that GQ interviewer. But it really
is helping individuals when it comes to facing these debates
on a daily basis, because for the longest time, prior
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to social media, you know, not everybody got in positions
like this, you weren't online having to go and argue
your points, trying to go and make cogent responses to
ridiculous allegations. It's a difficult thing for people to deal
with that have never faced that type of political appusition
and debate, and now people are and what we're seeing
(08:51):
are these great examples of just how conservatives are handling
these these situations so well. You can learn from Johnson,
you can learn from Sidney Sweeney, of all people, I
assume she's a conservative, but honestly, I don't care. I
love the fact that she just stays a political.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And doesn't take the bait on this stuff, which is.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Something that a lot of people can absolutely go in
and learn from.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And that's exactly what I got from her interview, which
should have been the goal.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
She's she's saying, I'm staying out of it.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
If I have an issue I want to speak on,
then you'll hear about it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But this isn't it.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
That was the smartest thing for her to do. And
other actors and actresses should, you know, take a page
out of her book.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Yeah, I don't think she's a conservative. Johnny, You've probably
never seen youph you.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, well I've seen no, I've never seen that.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
You know, it doesn't give conservative, I would say, vibes
doesn't scream.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Conservative doesn't scream certainly not.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
In the clothing department from what I've heard, precisely Okay,
So however, I think she feels she feels the.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Waves turning and people are appreciating more and more when
people like her and people like my Johnson don't fall
for the traps that people in the media transept for them.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So this was rather a saren di. I was not
aware of this.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So I have a couple of talkbacks that I want
to play regarding Governor Tim Walls and his comments. But
in the middle of when these talkbacks were rolling in,
Liz Colin from Alpha News posted about this, and I
had not heard. Let's go to a Judy on the
iHeartRadio app talkback brought to you by Lyndall Realty.
Speaker 11 (10:18):
Governor Wallace is really going to be out there talking
about a great Gatsby Party. Oh my gosh, man, you're
out there making multiple charges on your state credit card
that is paid for by taxes that I actually had
to pay so you could sit and buy fifteen thousand
dollars worth of flowers. I mean, who takes this man?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Seriously?
Speaker 11 (10:37):
Look at all these people. The fraud is everywhere. Oh sorry,
that just set me off today.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I had not heard about this and I'm looking at Yeah,
people in Governor Jim Wallas's office spent fifteen thousand dollars
on flower and furniture using state credit cards and split
the purchases into two transactions to avoid the five thousand
dollars spending limit. And this cuts on top of a
piece that I've been holding up on from your guy,
from you guys from American Experiment, wherein I think it
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was John feelin A highlighted what the four hundred and
thirty thousand dollars legal bill that came attached to his
congressional testimony.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
He he is the.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Height of hypocrisy here in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
He really is.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
He is the poster child for the pot killing Wait
is it the pot called black?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, he's that.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
And by the way, you can vote for Governor Wallace's
four hundred and thirty thousand dollars legal bills at Golden
Turkey and then dot com if you want that to
be our Golden Turkey of the Year.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well played, very good plug well played, nicely packed, nicely done.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
That's my coms training coming through.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It was better than my promotion of the radio show
on your podcast this week.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I gotta mention, Oh, week we covered it. Oh did
you okay? So we helped you out? Yeah, I completely.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It's like, do we ever even say where I was from?
I don't think that we just assume everybody knows who
I am.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Right that.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
It is crazy that all of the it's everything happening
in Governor Walls's office and Peggy Flannigans for that matter,
with the with the inability to run a.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well oiled machine.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
They have all of these these awful things going on
that they were called out in that report, and it's
just so indicative of what's happening in our state. They
can't run their own small office, and yet they're in
charge of the funding for our entire state.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Coming up, we're going to dive into the filibuster. I
have a clip here from our adopted senator from Wisconsin
and some clips from Trump yesterday, and on the show,
I had said that, you know, because I'm of the
opinion that Democrats want Trump to go and nuke the
filibuster for if and when they go and take control
so they can do whatever it is they want to
do and not be held responsible for doing it themselves.
(12:40):
Trump made some really good arguments yesterday as to why
Republicans need to do it now, and so does Ron Johnson.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
We'll play those coming up.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
We'll hear from our in studio guests on a Freedom
Friday again, Catherine Johnson and Grace Keating from the American
Experiment podcast, and we'll have ak Kamara, RNC Committeemen and
business owner joining us right after thirty plus more of
your comments from the iHeartRadio app. Next on Twin City's
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I can't be the only one that immediately envisioned the
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Speaker 2 (13:40):
Johnson from American Experiment. Good morning, Grace Kidney from American Experiment.
Hello follow her on ext she needs followers. No, it's okay,
I don't post.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
She won't except my follow you I have.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Oh I haven't JET kept my fo I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I'm sorry you did you accept mine because I wouldn't
accepted yours.
Speaker 13 (13:58):
I was.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I was Grace's first follow I know it's right. I'll
treasure that forever. No, such an absolute honor.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I yeah, eight following one follower. I literally got flagged
for suspicious activity by Twitter yesterday when I logged in,
because like they considered that log in unusual.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It I to you use it clearly because you just
called it. Twitter's there's that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's fair. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
It is a Freedom Friday. You're on an off topic
comments all morning long. This one's going to go to
uh SAM and the Master Control Booth.
Speaker 14 (14:34):
So Freedom Friday question. I'm thinking about buying a g
Grand Cherokee four by E. Can somebody explain to me
how the four by E system works? I looked it
up a little bit, googled it, and it says that
the E part stands.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
For electric hybrid, A little motor.
Speaker 14 (14:49):
In the transmission. Apparently, I think you get like twenty
five miles on electric lonely, that seems kind of worthless.
Anybody got any reviews on this?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well, first of this one, it seems as if you'veigured
out what for by e mens, this is a little
off the beaten path to do car talk.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But Sam, I know you drive around a jeep. Would
you can respond to him?
Speaker 15 (15:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 16 (15:08):
Uh, not wrong for this particular hybrid. For jeeps anyway,
they get about twenty five miles on a full charge,
which might seem kind of worthless. However, if you're doing
a lot of local driving, then it actually works out
pretty well. I'll tell you. On highway driving, it's a
lot less. It's probably about I don't know sixty percent
of that. So just keep that in mind. If you
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do a lot of highway driving, it's probably you're not
going to see much return on it.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Wow, it's the return again though, the more you know. Yeah,
right there, thanks Sam, I appreciate that.
Speaker 15 (15:38):
Let's go here, Donald Trump, Okay, I get it. You
can have a party. Can you think about optics? You
gave the communist cannon fodder? Why do you do that?
That's not very bright, that's pretty tone dead. I don't
care if you have a party, but this is not
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the right to to do that. That's pretty dumb.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
There was a time, and it was a while ago,
where I used to feel that way. I just don't anymore.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what Trump does. There's
no other simple way to put another way to put it.
It just simply doesn't matter if he wants to have
a Gatsby party at the White House. Anybody who's rational
enough knows it's Halloween themed.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
They picked a theme, they went with it.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
They probably had no idea because that was an incredibly
elaborate party. As a matter of fact, I can guarantee
they had no idea they would be in the middle
of a shutdown and that moment, snap benefits would be
expiring because of Democrats keeping the government shut down for
as long as they did.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It doesn't matter what Trump does.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I was just talking to someone yesterday who has the
same issue wit you know, with Trump in general, and
I feel the same way. There was a time when
I cared about optics perception. It's part of the game.
But the second you start playing that today in twenty
twenty five, already lost to a certain extent, to liberals.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Sometimes it helps to like think of the other headline
it could have been, if he canceled the party, they'd
go track down a kid who was supposed to go
to this party and is now devastated, and that would
be the thing exactly so.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Or they would do the taco Oh Trump always chickens out.
Oh see, he knows how bad this is for the party.
He knows, he understands this is a bad. Look at
how devastating that this shutdown is for him, so much
so that he had to cancel this party.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Wow, look at the Democrats really got him on the ropes.
Speaker 17 (17:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I just read that I just wrote the headlines. That
was really good.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Thank you very much. You know, it's almost like they
paid me for a reason. I know, I'm surprised to
you sometimes though. This one's for Grayson Catherine Hey.
Speaker 18 (17:47):
John an American Experiment team. I just want to say
I've been listening to the American Experiment podcast. It's great stuff.
The only thing I wish is sometimes I could send
it in talkbacks like I do with John to the
team there. And also I wish there was more, you know,
I don't know if the if they could make more
but they did. I'd listened to it. Have a great
(18:09):
day and a wonderful weekend.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
There you go, American Experiment Team.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Thanks man, Oh my gosh, thank you for listening.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
That was amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I do want I want a talkback system. I love
the talkbacks.
Speaker 10 (18:20):
I know.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
The only version we have of that is comments. We
you know, we get a lot of YouTube comments. We
read every single one. We love reading them. But I
don't have like a live version of that.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, well, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I mean the way technology is today, just give out
your phone numbers.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
People can leave you voicemails.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, you know, it's kind of unlimited, and you can
just plug in and just share the share the voicemails anyway.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
That's Grace would get a bunch of calls about her
eyebrows apparently.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah, that's my clem to fame Best in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's about time I had a Oh. I also want
to mention.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
It that's too late now long too late for me,
right right? If I ever added the pet, I'm gonna
name him long pause. I decided that earlier this morning.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's like the funniest pandem ever. Seriously, if I hadn't
if we hadn't named Artemis. Artemis.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I think long Pause would have been the runner up.
But you know, oh see, I'll phrase it this way.
I'll make it this way. It's people will figure it out.
But I've already opened my mouth. There are some social
media platforms wherein you can call.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
From the social media platform. Did you guys know this to.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
The person, So like your phone is inside of the
platform and somebody can make a call through the particular one.
I had a listener that was like desperately trying to
get a hold of me earlier this week this week, well,
and they were very concerned about something and they weren't
getting answers and they were hoping that I could. So
my phone kept ringing and I'm like, why is my
why is that? Why is that platform calling me? And
(19:47):
then I and then I realized, like, oh there was
a you know, so we had a very nice exchange.
They were just having difficulty with an issue, and I
was like, yeah, I don't typically go and communicate with
listeners in that fashion through my personal phone. In the
middle of while I'm watching you know, Halloween, you know,
baking Challenge with Glimpse Behind the.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Curtains, which was fantastic this last season.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
By the way, I just need to tell you, all right,
here's a quick clip from Trump. We have ak Kamara
joining us in studio coming up here in just a moment.
I also want to get to this clip from our
adopted senator from Wisconsin talking about the filibuster. The Democrat
election wins have complicated the shutdown talks and also this
whole you know, this whole debate now with the filibuster,
(20:29):
I think is actually keeping the Democrats from reopening the
government because they're seeing how this plays out, and so
are conservatives. So let me play you just a quick
clip from Trump and we'll get to your thoughts and
the thoughts of our guests this morning as ak arrives,
and it was really this one and what Trump wanted
to do that started to push me further and further
(20:50):
towards nuking the filibuster.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
But can you imagine when they vote almost unanimously against
voter ID. All we want is voter IDE. You go
to a grocery store, you have to get ID. You
go to a gas station, you give ID. But for voting,
they want no voter ID. There's only for one reason,
because they cheat. We would pass that in fifteen minutes
on the.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Free iHeartRadio wip.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
R and C Committeeman in Businessman ak Kamar making his
way upstairs, will be joining us in studio shortly here
on Twin Cities News Talk from the sixty five to
one Carpet plus Next Day Install Studios John Justice and
the Master Control Booth is Sam and also in studio
from the American Experiment Podcast at Catherine Johnson and Grace Keating.
(21:38):
Thank you, by the way for having me on your
one hundred episode this week. I had a really good
had a really good time.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 19 (21:44):
John.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
If anyone listening did.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Not see that show, you should go check it out
American Experiment Podcast on YouTube. You can see John wearing
these amazing glasses we got for him. Thet's say one hundred.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You should really not miss that.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I will say I was disappointing you didn't use I
gave you a really good screen grab with me with glasses.
I just want to say we can still that was
a little I was like, you know, that was a
really good thumbnail, but I know you guys should change
the thumbnails up as of late, so I didn't take
much offense to it. I mean just a little tics
a little well circulate it too. I know, I'm pretty
(22:15):
demanding talking about the filibuster. Let me play Donald Trump
again from yesterday. I'll show this one. This is this
is kind of a prequel to the clip here that
he or or should say the sequel to the clip.
But talking about voter ID and what he wants to
do in nuking the philibuster.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
Can you imagine when they vote almost unanimously against voter ID.
All we want is voter ID. You go to a
grocery store, you have to give ID. You go to
a gas station, you give ID. But for voting, they
want no voter ID. There's only for one reason, because
they cheat. We would pass that in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Now here's more of what Trump had to say on
explaining why he wants to terminate the filibuster.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
Member Republicans, regardless of the humor shutdown, the demo Democrats
will terminate the philibuster the first chance they get. They
will pack the Supreme Court of the United States, pick
up two states. That's a lot of states, and add
at least eight electoral votes. Their two objectors are gone.
Remember cinema and mansion they're gone. Don't be weak, don't
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be stupid. Republicans, fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Win, win win.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
We will immediately end the extortioner shutdown, get all of
our agenda pass, and make life so good for Americans
that these deranged Democrat politicians will never again have the
chance to destroy America. They try to destroy your country. Republicans,
you will rue the day that you didn't terminate the philibuster.
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Be tough, be smart, and win. This is much bigger
than the shutdown. This is the survival of our country.
Terminate the filibuster, and let's live the great life that
this country is capable of life.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
He makes an interesting point, is one that I hadn't
thought of until my wife actually brought it up. Melinda
brought it up yesterday, of Christian cinema and Joe Manchin
not being a part of the equation anymore. I do
want to play Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson here in just
a moment, but I want to get your thoughts. I know, Grace,
you had a visible reaction on this. Did you want
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to comment on what Trump had to say.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's not an intelligent reaction at all. I just I
get so distracted.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
He's making great points, and I get so distracted by
his speaking cadence and his Trump style.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
It's just such a gift.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I'm so happy this is the first year of his
presidency and we have so many more years to come
of speeches like that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It makes me so happy.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Yeah, I you know, you can't help but love him
and love what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
He's so fired up.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
But at the same time, I just question if it's
not going to be used so much more by Democrats
than Republicans in the future.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So this is where the gamble comes into play.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
And yesterday and I've gone back and forth because there's
not a real clear answer on this issue.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It really does come down to a gamble.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And when Trump talks about and we've had some talkbacks
that have rolled in and I'll get to these here
in just a moment, when Trump talks about going shoring
up voter integrity, cutting off mail and voting only in.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
The ways that you should be.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
When it comes to those that are, you know, either
incapable of going out on election day or you know,
military serving overseas, I know there are other reasons.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I'm just laying out.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Laying laying out a few when you you know, make
it a requirement to show proof of ID. You take
away the ability as best as we possibly can to
bring about integrity. Trump makes a very very good point
that it would be increasingly difficult for Democrats to go
and win elections, in which case then you wouldn't have
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to worry about them going and using the lack of
a filibuster to go and undo a bunch of things
if they don't have power. We'll go into a bit
more of a deep dive on this because I have
an article here and it really sort of opened up
my eyes to how fluid the filibuster really is and
how you can go and sort of change it at
(26:15):
your will, eliminated and bring it back, which underscores the
fact that this is being used for, you know, political
gamesmanship by both parties. Before we talk with ak Kamar
and get his thoughts on this, here is our adopted
senator from Wisconsin, and this was another one where I
really respect what Ron Johnson has to say. You know,
he is a very even keeled senator, in my opinion,
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incredibly pragmatic, and when he's making comments like this, my
ears tend to prick up.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Do you agree, what do you make of blowing up
the filibuster.
Speaker 19 (26:47):
I've always been a big supporter of the filibuster. It
has stopped America from going down to socialist path in decades.
But the President is right, and I told him at
this point in time, he's one hundred percent correct. The
Democrats purged the last two senators who held out and
support the filbuster, so we know they have no respect
for the filbuster. I don't think there will be a
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Democrat Senate candidate running for office that won't pledge to
again end the filibuster.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So we need to strike first now.
Speaker 19 (27:16):
When the Democrats eliminate the filibuster, it'll all be about
their maintenance of power. As a President laid out, there
will be more senators packing the Supreme Court. It will
all be about their acquisition and maintenance of power.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
If we're to do it, it will be for.
Speaker 19 (27:30):
The benefit of the American people. We'll further secure a border,
we'll secure our elections. You know, I would love I
would love to sit down with Democrats to repair the
damage done by a Bomacare and transition to a system
that actually works, rather than continue to throw hundreds of
billions of dollars at a completely failed system. We're having
a hearing today in my committee. I'm assessing the damage
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of Obamacare. If Democrats would actually acknowledge that, admit what
a miserable failure of Bamacare is, we could fix that
for them and public. So again, I hate, I hate
the fact that Democrats are going to blow up the filibuster,
but they will. We have to acknowledge that awful reality,
and I think we probably need to act first.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I would be totally on board.
Speaker 13 (28:14):
With getting rid of the filibuster using the nuclear option
if it were a guarantee that the Republicans in the
House and Senate would get a lot of the Trump
stuff passed, the Save Act, everything he's signed getting an
executive order for If that was guaranteed, then yes, absolutely
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nuke the filibuster.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Business owner R and C Committeeman Ak Kamara.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Good morning. What's that buddy? You know, it's a beautiful morning.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
I hate the fact that we, you know, had to
fall back, but we didn't have enough political capital to
not implement this terrible daylight savings time.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Please don't start talking about it again. I do that
just is just for cat drop.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
By the way, we still start talking about it again,
we need.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
We need that drop.
Speaker 16 (29:07):
I'm already on it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
While you're on that.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Real quick, Ak, before I get your thoughts, I want
to drop in one more talkback relating to the filibuster,
and then we'll get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 20 (29:17):
Good morning, John's covering Pomonamiah. I have one question about
the pillip buster. If they can nuke it, why don't
they nuke it take care of everything that they need
to pass, pass all the appointments that are waiting, getting
all work done, and then reinstated.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Is that possible.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
It is possible from from what I've read, I'm actually
quite surprised the filibuster has never been set in stone.
I have a list here of all of the different
times that we've we've tweaked it. I think there's a
matter of precedent that is concerning for individuals to just go, oh,
we're going to remove it, pass all our stuff, or
putting it back in again.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Because it's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
The Democrats could just go and do the same thing
when they go and get into power, So it doesn't
really change the dynamics all that much.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But Ak, Kamara, nuke.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
The filibuster, keep the filibuster. Move on to talk about
daylight savings time.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
What are your thoughts on Oh, yeah, we definitely need
to nuke the filibuster. I made a video about this.
You can follow me on Exit Real ak Kamara also
over on TikTok at ak Kamara and I broke it down, like, listen,
this idea that we live in a society where democrats
respect the rights of Senate rules and Congressional rules of
(30:36):
decorum and not trampling all over the minority. That time
doesn't exist anymore, and that's the reality. We have to
understand what time it is. Democrats are in a position
where they will constantly lie on everything. If you go
on X, it can be a little bit black piled
right now because every senator is lying. I don't care
(30:57):
if it's supposed to be someone that's more moderate. All
of them are lying about everything. So the moment that
they have the opportunity to kill the filibuster, they will
because they do not care about the korum, they do
not care about rules of order. That's not what time
it is. So I agree that President with President Trump,
Republicans in the Senate have lived in this time where
(31:19):
they think that these things matter, and that precedent matters.
Wake up and realize where we're at in this country.
If we do not do if we don't neot the
filibuster President Trump's entire agenda that he codified, that he
passed through executive order that needs to be codified, that's
not going to happen. And so if he does not
(31:40):
deliver for the American people right now, we are going
to lose power in twenty six and then the House
will be neutered, and then the American people will blame
Republicans as they did on Tuesday. That's what happened. Like
make no mistake, it's because Republicans haven't been able to
deliver on their promises.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
It's because of the Democrats.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
They're stopping and they're not even trying to negotiate in
good faith. But yeah, we need a nuke the filibuster,
pass and codify President Trump's executive orders to make America
great again. And at the end of all of this,
if Democrats learn their lesson, then we can maybe go
back to an era of decorum.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
What'll be interesting to see. I want to add a
new wrinkle to this.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, because if Democrats begin to believe that Trump is
going to or that the Republicans are going to go
and nuke the filibuster, and they believe that the GOP
will call a lessons past this stuff. How quickly will
Democrats then come to the table be like whoa, whoa, whoa,
let's get the government back open again to keep them
(32:38):
to prevent them from nuking the philibuster. It's an angle
on this that I haven't heard talked about yet, but
I can absolutely see that happening if suddenly, now the
Republicans because here's a quick clip. This is uh, Tommy,
do we do Tubervilla Tubberville every single time I say
Tuberville Tuberville? Okay, do you guys can go Tubberville?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Okay, il a coin.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
To say you're the deciding vote. Grace, Now you just
threw a monkey ration.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Of the situation on COM's Professional All.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Right, Let's here is Senator Tommy Tuberville on his thoughts
on the filibuster.
Speaker 10 (33:12):
Okay, if we need to bust it, let's bust it.
Let's knock it down to fifty one and let the
Senate know that. Listen, the power needs to go to
the president and let him get something done. If we don't,
we're gonna lose our country. It's gonna be over with.
And so he's got three years. He's the last Trump
that will have in office. He's hard nos, he believed
in this country. Let's give him some support. If he
(33:35):
wants to blow up the filibuster, I'm all for it.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Well, and again, I wonder if a part of the
play might be all this talk about getting rid of
the filibuster and having individuals like Senator you know, our
adopted senator from Wisconsin, Ron Johnson jump on board, might
be a play to try to get Democrats to come
to the table to open things back up, because I
can imagine that they would not want Trump to go
and do that because if they do pass the Save
Act and shore up our election integrity, Trump is right
(34:01):
is going to make it incredibly difficult, or it should say,
at least more difficult for Democrats to go and win
elections heading in the next year.
Speaker 18 (34:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
Again, what I'll say is that if the idea that
we need to be able to keep this rule in place,
because that's all this is. This is a Senate rule,
this is not in the constitution. The idea is we
should be able to stop the majority from trampling on
the minority. And they even change it because before you
used to actually have to physically stand up and hold
actual space right, And then they say, okay, and then
(34:30):
never mind, we'll just do that. You have to have
sixty votes. Now there is again this cat and mouse game.
Republicans because we care about order and because we actually
care about principles, like actual values that we can say
and loyalty, these things Democrats have none. The only value
that they actually care about is power, and that used
(34:53):
to be just the far left, but that's become all Democrats.
And so this idea that again you change the rule
if it really matters, and you pass it all change
it back. But I promise you the moment that Democrats
have a fifty plus one percent majority in the Senate,
they will nuke the filibuster because they don't care.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I agree with all of that. Ak what I want
to see from Republicans is exactly what they're going to
do once they nuke the filibuster.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I could get on board with this, I still hesitant.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
I think it really helps Democrats in the long run
more than Republicans. They're the ones constantly trying to pass things, constantly,
trying to add entitlements, things like that.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
That are hard to get rid of. But if the
Republicans say, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
We're gonna, you know, tackle election security, we're going to
work on immigration, we're going to do this, this, and
this immediately, then I could get on board. But I
don't totally trust them to use the moment effectively.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
The filibuster itself.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
I'm working off of essentially a cheat sheet here of
filibuster history. So between nineteen sixty nine and twenty fourteen,
there have been one hundred and sixty sixty one exceptions
two in supermajority requirement. Senate majorities from both parties have
approved carve outs other changes related to executive branch and
(36:08):
judicial nominations, budget reconciliation measures.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Even the sixty vote.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Threshold I ak, which you mentioned a moment ago, has
not always been a defining feature of the filibuster. In
nineteen seventy five, the Senate voted to lower the threshold
from sixty seven votes to sixty as one response to
the demand for reforms in the aftermath of Watergate. So yeah,
I mean this whole this whole article gets into how
(36:35):
the filibuster has always been subject to revision and even
if there's not support for its full elimination, now there's
ample president for further modifications that allow passage for other legislation.
And again, I think a lot of this comes down
to these political games that are being played right now
because of the narratives that are that are forming, and
(36:56):
who can best, you know, angle taking advantage of either
removing it or keeping it in place for you know,
political expediency.
Speaker 8 (37:04):
I would just again, I would even ask everyone at
this table, do you believe that there's a world that
exists that if today, right now Democrats had fifty one
votes in the Senate, that they would not nuke the philibuster.
The answer to me is gonna be no, because they
tried to do it. And the only reason that they
weren't able to nuke the philibuster is because Christen Cinema
and Joe Manchin said no. But that part of the
(37:27):
Democrat party's gone. The only one right now is John Fennerman.
But that's just one. And I'll be honest, I think
that if the pressure was on him to do all
of these things, because he's still he's still on the
left right, he's this progressive whatever, he's gonna fall with
them and say, no, this is gonna be too good.
We have to help America in whatever way, possible, shape
(37:49):
or form that they want to do. And so that's
that's to me again, what time is it? What are
we holding on to do? We not really think that
if Democrats get back in power, they won't nuke the philibuster,
pack the Supreme Court, open up the borders, codify all
these horrible laws that they've been pushing for that the
philibuster is held back. I just don't think that they're
in that moment anymore that they're going to stop. That's
(38:10):
where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Earlier this week, my answer would have been that earlier
this week, my opinion was that Democrats were too scared
to do it on their own, because in the past
they've been too scared to go and do it on
their own. I don't believe that anymore. I'm with you
now that I've spent more time with this and bringing
in the Mansion cinema aspect of it. I'm with you
on Fetterman as well. And we're just in completely uncharted
(38:34):
territory in terms of the way that Democrats have just
dug their heels in on nothing but total opposition. If
they have the opportunity to nuke it, get rid of it,
and move forward on their own agenda just to try
to paint Trump as as a tyrant as they've been doing,
they absolutely will. And to that point, let me wrap
up this hour before we'll talk more about this. Coming up,
we are going to have a special guest joining us
(38:56):
here in just a moment on Twin Cities News Talk.
But this is James Carville on a podcast talking about
this very issue when what Democrats will do if they
were to retain power in Congress.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I want to.
Speaker 17 (39:08):
Talk to just Chief Justice Roberts, just Toledo, just Bared,
Just Kavanaugh, just gorsh Arsage. I might be forgetting one.
I'm gonna tell you what's going to happen. A Democrat
is going to be elected in twenty twenty eight. You
know that, I know that he's gonna be a Democratic House,
(39:30):
gonna be a Democratic Senator. The Democratic President is going
to announce eight Special Transition Advisory Committee on the reform
of the Supreme Court that we could have. Our third
branch of government has lost the faith and trusted American people,
and as president, I'm going to do anything along.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
He's going to.
Speaker 17 (39:51):
Point a blue ribbon maybe Judge Luti and the Dean
of the you know, just the usual suspect, all right,
and they're going I recommend that the number of Supreme
Court justices go from nine to thirteen.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
That's going to happen to people. That's going to happen
to you. They're going to win. They're going to do
some blue.
Speaker 17 (40:12):
Ribbon panel of distinguished jurists and they are going to
recommend thirteen, and a Democratic Senate and House going to
pass it, and the Democratic president is going to decide
it because they have to do an intervention so we
can have a Supreme Court that the American people trusting you.
(40:32):
So just keep that in the bag of your mind.
And I would bet a lot of money if that's
what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Talking about it again, what are you doing? Democrats?
Speaker 9 (40:45):
They have what's called the Trump derangement problem.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Have you heard about that problem?
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