Andy Luger/Wolves/Vikings - Bumper to Bumper 10/21/25 Hour Three

Andy Luger stays for the first 30 minutes of the final hour before Dan returns to the toy department with Wolves season preview discussion and Vikings quarterback talk.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right, Andy Lueger is indeed back with us. Starting
point today was an op ed column that appeared in
the start to Mune. I don't know what day it dropped.
It doesn't even matter anymore in an online world. I guess, Andy,
that's the world we live in. But it was. I
saw it over the weekend, and we're starting there about what.

(00:40):
I guess, what's the term again? Mvees Again, this is
a broad term that doesn't always fit perfectly. Nihilistic, violent
extremists that might not be all that interested in ideology
at all. You know, you raised the question about that
we need to be interested in this group, and I

(01:01):
wonder if we're going to be because we're in a
world right now where we seemingly are only interested if
we can identify the bad guys as lefty guy or
righty guys? So do we have the bandwidth to mix
this in if at the end of this discussion we
don't have the identified these are the bad guys in
this case or this is the the these are the

(01:24):
bad uh, the representing the side of the political aisle.
We're not interested in sharks and jets is what I
call them.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, we have to u So I don't think we
have a choice because they're out there. And as you know, unfortunately,
as these incidents occur and as we have shootings, you
can read the manifestos, and the manifestos don't lead you
normally to right or left. They just lead you to violence.

(01:51):
And we have to acknowledge that there are people out
there who want to kill, just to kill, and we
have to do something about that. And I said in
the piece sometimes even on these sites, they make fun
of us for pointing fingers, like, you know, those folks
don't get it, the left and the right pointing fingers

(02:11):
don't get it. We're just out here killing people and
promote we're amused by it. Yeah, yeah, And so I
haven't been. I'm going to go on these sites soon
because I need a dedicated computer that's not connected to
any kind of server, and I'm going to do that,
but the people who are on the sites tell me,
like literally, they're they're coughing at us.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
And in otherwise is seven sixty four.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Seven sixty four was sort of the first and the
seven sixty four was the three first three digits of
the zip code of the person who founded it in Texas.
And they're really dedicated to posting videos of mass shootings
and murders and self harm and promoting doing that and
sort of teaching people how to get a vulnerable young

(02:58):
boy or girl to kill them online, you know, being filmed,
and then they post that and that becomes the next
sort of trophy. So, you know, it's you cannot overstate
how horrific this is. But more importantly, just knowing about
it and being able to have some sort of a
civic conversation about it is something I think we need

(03:21):
to do. We're also we need a combination of public policy,
public health others to get involved in the discussion of
how to solve it.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Is this different than the subject the last time we talked,
I think may have been by falling on that occasion.
I don't remember the sextortion cases.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, it is and it isn't. So seven sixty four
is a network of in part sextortionists. So what we
talked about the last time the ESPN article was a case,
and what I prosecuted, or what we prosecuted when I
was a US attorney were sextortion cases, individual cases. Now

(03:58):
those folks can get to get they're online or are
getting together online in their own subculture and promoting each
other and egging each other on, and that takes it
from sort of five to ten on a scale of dangerousness.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Where does law enforcement fit in here? I mean these
I assume these sites can't be eliminated as much as
I'm assuming a lot of people would vote for them
to be. We've got laws in place. We allegedly appreciate
our freedom, at least we appreciate it when we're the
ones free. So where does law enforcement fit in? What

(04:36):
are some of the options that law enforcement can at
least consider.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So the FBI now tells us that they have investigations
in every state of the nation into seven sixty four activities.
So if somebody's on the seven sixty four site trying
to convince a twelve year old to kill themselves. That's
a crime, and FBI is now following that. Only imagine

(05:00):
how many people it takes to do it, and do
we have the resources? But the FBI has adopted the
n VE you know name, and they're tracking en VE
cases and they're actually when charges are filed by US
attorney's offices, they're starting to identify the defendant as a
member of the n VE subculture. In terms of ind

(05:23):
none of this existed when I was a US attorney.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I mean it did, but at very that long ago.
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
It just burst onto the scene.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
So since the story hit the online, and what kind
of reaction have you received?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Just kind of overwhelming with two things. One people just
saying I didn't know anything about this, which of course
you didn't, none of us did. And then some people
who have either been victims of or no victims of
mass violence who have said I want to learn more
and can can we start a dialogue.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Let me get to a couple of texts that have
come in here. This question is going to come across
more crass and it's attended. How does mister Luger study this
subject and keep his sanity or his hope in the
future of humanity.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
So I've look if you're a prosecutor, federal or state prosecutor,
as long as I have been, you've seen everything under
the sun. I mean, I had a mob and foreman
in nineteen eighty nine who showed up in the trunk
of a car in front of the courthouse dead. So
I'm a somewhat insensitive, but I'm also sensitive. I've talked

(06:40):
about the Weddlink case and how hard emotionally it was
for me to be part of that case in solving
that case and bringing to light what happened. So you're
both emotionally involved because you care, but you're also you
go into solutions mode, Let's solve this. So I am
That's where I am right now. I'm interested in working

(07:03):
with these analysts and experts around the country who have
known for years, who are tracking this and bringing people
together to come up with some practical ways that we
can talk about it.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
This is from seven to sixty three guy, to the
extent that they are independent envees. Is it an online
bot thing? Foreign actors using AI or other manipulative avenues
to also sow discord? Was the smartphone in social media?
The death knell of civilized civilization.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Well, there's a happy guy, Dan, I don't think so.
I'm not going to say categories me not. I'll ask
that question to the you know, i'll phrase it slim differently,
but I'll ask that question to the people that I'm
talking to. I think these are real people who are
not bots, and real people who want to create mayhem,

(07:55):
who in their mind have become addicted to the idea
of violence.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's another texture. This is from five to one. Oh,
I don't know where five to one oha is. Guards
you recognize five to one zero, he asks, regarding the
sharks versus the Jets. When it comes to blaming the
other side for the latest atrocity, it's not that they
don't get it. The left and right use it to
blame each other, whether it's true or not. We could

(08:21):
probably spend a half hour on that, and we have
in some ways talked about that before. I think there's
some truth to that. And that's why I do wonder
sometimes whether it's going to be a challenge for you
to get traction on this, because there isn't, at least
explicitly a political component to this thing. It is that
some people just want to see the world burn.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, the fact that it's going to be tough to
get attraction doesn't mean you don't try. So that's where
I'm at. I can't guarantee results, and I'm right in
the middle between the left and the right on these things,
and I just want to see real life solutions and progress,
and so that's what I'm working on.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Let me ask you about a quote from the man
who succeeded you now, former Acting US Attorney Joe Thompson.
This was a start Tribune piece in which I think
he was there kind of trying to lay out who
is he? Get to know him? And then secondly, given
all these fraud cases, you know, what is he make

(09:21):
of the unfortunate run the state of Minnesota seems to
be in. And I want to get your reaction to
a specific observation he made. He said, as a prosecutor,
I'm expected to say the defendants are responsible for their crimes.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
And they are.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
But if we pretend that's the whole story, we are
lying to ourselves. This fraud crisis did not come out
of nowhere. It's the result of widespread failure across nearly
every level of leadership in Minnesota, politicians who turned a
blind eye, agencies that failed to act, prosecutors and law
enforcement who didn't push hard enough, reporters who ignored the story,

(09:57):
community leaders who stayed silent, and a public that wanted
to believe it couldn't happen here in Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
What do you make of that? Good for Joe, I've
known Joe a long time. I actually hired him. He's
a fantastic prosecutor and a great lawyer and a good
friend of mine. I would put it differently, and I have. Look.
I think I think we've got a segment of the
Somali community that has decided to take advantage wherever they

(10:28):
can of loosely guarded government programs, and that all kind
of exploded with feeding our future. I credit Joe with
being tenacious in going after that. That got started before
I became us attorney. I started day one. We looked
at each other and said this is what we're going
to do, and we built a team and we took

(10:49):
it on. And then obviously other things like the autism
and housing rehabilitation. There's a lot out there. Do I
blame reporters and politicisms? Joe's got his own insights, in
his own thoughts, and I value them and we trade
our ideas. We have been doing that for years. But
the way I look at is we've had lacks oversight

(11:12):
of programs. I'm fairly convinced that that's coming to an end,
that people are taking it seriously, both in the legislature
and at the governor's office. And while we're going to
see a lot more cases going forward because there's just
so much to prosecute, i'd like to believe that the
pipeline has shut or is shutting.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
What does the lack of foresight and vigilance tell you?
What's that about? Is that leadership can that fairly be
placed at the foot of the governor's office, the governor
of the state. I think it makes him vulnerable, but
I don't know the Republicans will be able to do
anything about it. But how do we go about figuring

(11:54):
all that out? Because a couple of things he said,
and again you may not agree with him, because I'm
not sure you agree with him on every thing, is
that he's saying there are a couple of these programs
that literally we're begging to be abused, Which tells me
again that we we, with all these good intentions that
we have in this state, that we didn't come close
for a long period of time to threading this needle

(12:17):
and to paying close enough attention to see that the
money we wanted to get to all these good needed
places had any chance to actually get there.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
We skipped the step, We skipped the oversight step, we
skipped the intense auditing step, and we did that. You know,
you just said it good intentions and we wanted to
do the right thing. Joe said in that long quote,
you know it can't happen here kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
This is.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Think about it. We've always been a very clean government state.
We have clean government on both sides. Whether you're a
Tim Blenty governor or a Tim Walls governor, we've had
clean government. You don't see a lot of people in
government getting prosecuted for corruption. This erupted and now it's
being dealt with, and I think it's being taken quite

(13:09):
seriously by everybody. I also, you know, I do think
that there has been a concerted effort by government officials
from all sorts, from all stripes to support and help
build up the Somali community that's here. And I think
some of that led some people in the Smalley community

(13:32):
to see an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
In terms of so when you say you you are,
you are observing greater vigilance and now in understanding that
the that we need much greater safeguards in place to
be sure this money is going to the right place.
How does that mean? What? What are what is involved
in that process? Beyond the declarations? Because that always sounds good,
but what what are the this what's the system that

(13:56):
has to be in place?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Sure, So compare what happened in Feeding our Future with
happening with the housing stabilization services Feeding our Future. When
people saw pretty early on, you know, the vestiges of fraud,
they tried to shut it down, and they got sued
by people representing Feeding our Future. And there was a whole,

(14:17):
you know, sort of side argument that you're only looking
at us because you're racist. Right, so everybody gets accused
of being racist. And one of the things that I
said in one of our press conferences was we got
to get over that the whole you're a racist if
you look at me, stop that and stop paying attention
to that. Assuming you're not a racist, that you're actually
doing your job, and that's what happened here. I think

(14:39):
we've gotten past that because in the housing stabilization thing,
they just shut it down. And I think that kind of,
you know, jumped the shark of the argument of racism
after feeding our future?

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Is this, strictly speaking, going back to your op ed
piece and the whole issue of what do we call them,
as you say, envees nihilistic violent extremists? Is this strictly
an American problem or a global problem?

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Mike?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
For me, Dinah asks, it's global. Good question, Mike, it's global,
and it's very focused here. But there there are people
who venerate the Christ Church murderer. You know, there's this
is not just an American problem, but we're seeing a
lot of it here.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Would mister Luger write a book? Have you ever written
a book?

Speaker 3 (15:28):
I started to. I've thought about it. I started to.
I don't you know? This is who's going to read?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
We have more time on your hands.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
You're not running for office anymore, right, you've made that
semi official.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm not running for all.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
You can't be talked out of that. You don't think
now you're past that? That ship is saled.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yes, Okay, yes, yes, the ship has sailed. I didn't
get on it.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Why Why?

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Because not? What? Two reasons. One, It's not what I
want to do with my life right now. I want
to plug in where I can be useful and not
be you know, Saturday afternoon in Ealy in a parade.
I did that twenty years ago. It was great thirty parades.
So I have that.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I have to smile a lot, too, don't you. That's
part a lot you have to.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
And you told me early on. I gotta be a
happy guy, happy guy. So that's number one. But more importantly,
I'm sixty six and I really believe in grooming a
new generation of leaders. So I'm working with candidates who
are younger than me and represent you know, new generations.
And I really believe, you know, people say that all

(16:29):
the time, we gotta get new blood. I'm actually, I
actually believe.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
That what percentage of people on these sites are truly
psychopaths without regard for suffering? I'm afraid to know the number.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, I don't. I think a lot. I mean, I
hope to learn more about that, but I think there
may be people who are on the sites who are
just watching and interested but never will do anything. But
that's bad enough, isn't.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
It, Dan, Yeah, it should be. But then but you can't.
We don't have time to investigate those individuals, right, We
have no time because we have to try to find
a way to distinguish them from the folks who might
be capable of taking that next step, but even being
capable of not committing a crime. Right, that's what makes
this so problematic.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
No, So, one woman posted on watch People Die a
girl woman, I don't know every single known video of
a murder. She put into one post. She has three
hundred thousand people go to that, So that says to you,
this is something real, because we can't even imagine wanting

(17:37):
to do that. And yet three hundred thousand people instantly
went to watch her videos where she said, I've got
every single murder that's known online.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
In our final minutes here, do we have a minute
or two maybe to get your legal expertise on a
couple of stories, one in particular, do you believe we've
got these we're going after? Allegedly the administration is going
after drug runners. I guess you could say in South America,

(18:10):
and we're saying we're we know what we're doing. We're
taking them out. This is a scourge, is this is
a danger to the to the United States of America,
And we're I guess, you know, blowing them out of
the water and then asking questions later. So I don't think.
I don't get any sense of administration, has any hesitation.

(18:30):
Is there a chance that somewhere down the road this
is going to become a much bigger legal issue. What
do you make of this whole thing? And are you
comfortable with any of it?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
No. I was raised to believe you build your cases
and then you prosecute people through the system. Are there occasions,
you know, with ISIS or whatever that you kind of
go in with some military force. So this is way
beyond anything that I was taught to do. So I
believe in our system of justice. I believe in following

(19:00):
through you know, investigations, prosecutions, courts, juries. That's that's the
justice that I believe in.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
And that's very different than what we're seeing here, which
is fire first. And as far as we know to
this point correct.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
As far as I can tell, I'm not on the inside.
I haven't talked to the people. Maybe they're doing great things,
but it's not what I'm used to.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
So for people who have maybe read your op ed piece,
and for people who are are maybe even stunned by
what they didn't know, because I certainly did not know
all of this at all. And if that was your point,
you're trying to sort of you're trying to sort of
set the tone early and then go from here in
terms of what might be done, because that's the hard part. Obviously,

(19:42):
where else can people go? What should they be paying
attention to, what should they be concerned with?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well, I think if they want to learn more, they
can go to some of the sources without going to
the site. Yes, nobody should do that, but they can
go to some of the sources that are writing about
this and explaining it. And all you got to do
is is google NVE, violence, violent extremism, nihilism, and you'll
get the sources. And those are the people I'm actually

(20:08):
talking to, the people who write those expos's and research reports.
They're they're at academic institutions, they're at independent NGOs. That's
who tracks this, and it's basically the same people who
tracked ISIS terrorism and you know, sort of the rise
of white supremacy.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
So these sites, like most if you have your you
have your your Internet through cable or you know what, comcat,
whatever the case may be, these sites are not available
in those places. They are, Yeah, they are available. I
just there's no blocking. There's no legal standard by which
we could convincingly, you know, stand the test in a

(20:50):
court case of blocking these sites? Is that correct? Not?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
What I not? Based on what I know now. Part
of what we're going to do when we bring people
together is bring together experts on social media and the
law and talk about what can be done. But that's
not a likely path for ending this censorship isn't gonna work. Basically,

(21:14):
it's never too late. Andy one texture sets regarding jumping
back into the deep end of the pool when it
comes to politics, Yeah, I'm in a lot of deep
ends of a lot of pools right now. So that's
thank you, And I appreciate people saying that, and I do,
but it's just not where I am right now.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Then. I don't think, in the sense I get from you,
because I've brought this up a few times, I don't sense,
no matter how many compliments you get via the text line,
that that's going to be enough that flattery will not
get anybody anywhere in this case. It's not going to
turn your head at this point.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
No, I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
You don't mind it?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, No, I mean, look, you go through your life,
you get some compliments, you get some slams. I'll take that,
but that's not going to change my mind. I've had
a lot of people talk to me about it. This
is where I am in my life. This is what
I believe I should be doing. Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Does luter sand sound a little like Tanner Hoops?

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Who's Tanner Hoops?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Tanner Hoops the voice to go for women's volleyball. No,
I don't think so. He doesn't. I don't believe so.
I don't think there's a similarity there. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Do we like I used to look like Franco?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Is that true?

Speaker 4 (22:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
It could be Franco Harris for Halloween.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
That makes sense. I literally people stop me on the
street and say, are you Franco? That was a long time.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
It's a long time ago, in a different set ahead
of hair Immaculate. We're both old enough to remember the
immaculate reception, right those you didn't mind exactly? Yeah, there's
a couple more coming in we'll leave it, leave it
at that. I really appreciate the Please keep us posted
if there's updates and other things that we can get

(23:04):
into as you try to, because I know that's what
you try to do. You try to sort of plant
the flag and then you flesh it out. You understand
that platitudes and just words aren't going to be enough.
So and again it who knows if it's winnable, But
I know in the Andy lugar world, you have to try, correct,
you have to try to get someplace.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
That's where we are.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, exactly, good to see you. Thanks again, Andy Luger
kind of have to join us. I don't think our
Texters are going to talk him into running for state office,
including governor, even though the current governor should be as
vulnerable as any governor in a while. But that's another
story for another day. Well break here. We got a
full half hour to go guards, is that correct? We're
going the distance? Full hour? Yeah, full hour. I should say.

(23:46):
We got a lot more Vikings quarterback stuff to get into,
and who knows what else state did. Speaking of Thursday,
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(24:18):
cafe an Gal.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Literally all of your guests contributors are such great listens
from Luger to fine Baum. Do you think she means Rosenbaum?
Have we ever had Paul Finebauma? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
No, mostly because his show is on at the same
time your show.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yes to Kessler, to Posnor to Big Knocker, just great,
great radio, Cafangal. We appreciate the kind words, that's for sure.
And yeah, well Andy's a terrific guest no matter what
the subject is the only thing we haven't mind that
we might do next time is his own football career. Yeah,
Amherst because there's a couple of interesting stories there, and

(24:57):
I'm not sure have we gotten any Rosenbaum and or
Friedberg story. I think we've got in one or two.
There might be a couple more out there as as well.
The fact that I have one or two stories from
those two. I'm guessing mister Luger has he might over
the years. For sure. Quick callback to the start of

(25:17):
the show the fact that apparently your guy investigative sports
investigative reporter extraordinaire Pablo Tory finds out he found out, yep,
that Glenn Taylor created what they describe as a seventy
seven item Mean Girls Style Burn Book in an effort
to kill the franchise sale to A Rod and Mark Lori.

(25:38):
And the problem with at least a number of the
items were they had nothing to do with the legalities
of the actual sale transaction.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
And I suggested, well, we know a couple of the
items in the Mean Girls of Burn the Style burn Book,
but there's a bunch that we don't know. And if
you have some ideas via the branch on Brian Kfean
text line, please pass them along to us. Here's another
good one from much earlier in the program. It to
number eleven A Rod and Laurie were prepared to sign

(26:10):
Nasre to an extension without looking him in the eye first,
another good reason for Glen Taota say yeah, they don't
deserve to have the team, they're not up. It was
that Wiggins. Yes, he's still starting with the Miami Heat.
That's right. He was part of that trade. He was
part of the buckets trade, wasn't he? And he had

(26:31):
I think that's right? Yeah, from Golden State or very
very true day. That was still one of my favorite.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills periods when everybody
because as a Wolves fan, you know, you've got to
be built different, right, You've got to be built pretty tough. Yes,
we've got thick leather skin. Why wouldn't we. For most
of the thirty six years, it's been pretty much a disaster.
When people were mocking the Wolves for trading Andrew Wiggins
to the Warriors. For what he became with the Warriors.

(27:01):
That will still always bother me because he was, you know,
the fifth guy on that team or the fourth guy
on that team.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
That's great. He played great in the finals. There's no
dispute he did that that that cannot be taken away
from him. But but the.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Line was framed of can you believe Minnesota gave up
on this guy? It's all they asked him to do
is rebound him, play hard.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Uh, there are a couple of people who think that
Andy Luger does sound like Tanner Hoops Tanner Hoopsie. Another individual, Chris,
believes he sounds like Andrew Zimmern, and somebody else thinks
Andy Lueger sounds like Aaron Gleaman. I think a little
bit more than all of them, Gleaman with the inflection.

(27:39):
Maybe the cadence Man, it's the cadence maybe a little bit. Yeah,
I don't, I don't know, but it's that in itself
is very interesting. There's there's a lot of Lasagna jokes
coming in, as I might expect. We we kind of
may have exhausted that earlier in the uh in the broadcast,

(28:00):
the hits sometimes very true. Now what will be interesting,
as I said, is now whether Taylor's side leaked some
stuff that might also be a you know, make the
winning side look a little small. You know, there is
that possibility fairness and savagery. I'll listen to all of

(28:20):
those things. But as I said much earlier, it's uh,
he did not want to sell the team, and I
don't know given the prices, the price he sold them
at and the fact that the team then was just
emerging to become a force in the league that I
necessarily blame him for that, but he did it. Yeah,

(28:45):
and so in the end, his effort to try to
get out of it I thought was shaky. I thought
it was extremely thin. And put this way, if you're
going to try to convince the arbitrators, offering up is
one of the seventies seven items. Do you remember the
time A Rod looked into the camera with Katie Couric

(29:05):
in sixty minutes and said he never took any performance
hancing drugs. That's that certainly speaks to the character. Yeah,
sure a Rod, there's no question about that. That happened.
But the arbitrators, I'm sure were saying, not gonna work.
That's got nothing to do with the league out. You

(29:27):
gotta give me stuff from the deal, abrogated the deal.
Whether you know A Rod took performance enhancing drugs and
lied about it, that's not for us to detork. We're
not in the morality business. We're in the legality business, right,
and so that does smack of great, unfortunately great desperation.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Given that Pablo does have a few of the legitimate
items in the burn book, he's got to have all
of them, right, I would I think I would buy
the burn book. I think if it was that Barnes God,
I would I would have you pick it up.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh hell yeah, I'm your daily track. Then I mean
maybe there it can be a reality show. Here's what
I want to know. Who helped g Taylor a mass
to seventy seven items?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
He said?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
A couple of Wolves executives? Is that what he said?
That's what Pablo said? Yeah, two Wolves executives. Does that
explain why we have new leadership at the top of
the food chain? Might be part of it. I mean
that probably didn't help. Yeah, it might be part of it.
I would assume Wow, I think, yeah, if you're gonna
do that thoughts wowow, whoa you kind of Yeah, you
have to do that yourself or you have to realize

(30:35):
that you might be throwing some other people under the
bus if you lose, right. Yeah, I mean it's almost like,
does that mean those individuals took sides and maybe it
wouldn't have mattered. Yeah, maybe a Rod and Laurie had
their plans. I think everybody had to take sides. That
was the problem.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
That's probably I think at some point you had to
take a side on that thing. Yeah, Yeah, it had
to be really uncomfortable. And we also know Aaron Lourie
have already made a bunch of changes to the business
side of things as well. Right, lot of people got
let go. A couple of months ago we talked about that.
I think he almost had to pick sides. It would
be a terrible thing to have to do.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
No, and that's why it couldn't have been fun during
that whole No, I have a lot of empathy for
the people that had to actually work there. John the
mail carrier. Yeah. Now back to the nonsense of whether
or not street Clothes will ever play? Does he mean
jj McCarthy that street clothes man? Is that what he's
talking about? It has to be right, Well, how long
will McCarthy milk? It now controversial that he ain't gonna

(31:31):
play Thursday. In fact, I didn't mention this earlier. This
may be stayed in the obvious. He will be the
emergency quarterback again. So your guy, the dream is still alive.
Your guy plays. If if something you know, you know Harriball,
he loved cheap shots. He might like to see somebody
cheap shot. Uh, you might have a defense, maybe a
bounty situation. Who knows, he's a man of integrity and honor.

(31:54):
I thought I forgot. You're right, he's a Michigan. I
don't know what I mean by Michigan men never lie
and ever cheat, never steal. But the point is then,
whether the head coach wants to play Brozman or not,
he'd have to play them, right, that's the delicious part.
I'm not wishing injury on Carson Wentz or further injury
in any way, shape or form. This is a tricky game.

(32:18):
Here's the tough position. I think the Vikings are now
in too on this one. I'm assuming we're underdogs. The
game is in LA. I haven't even looked. I'll look
it up what the current spread is on Vikings Chargers.
But because the Chargers have been limping, they've lost three
of their last four, and their only victory was against

(32:41):
the Miami Dolphins by two. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
So, and every time I see the Dolphins on ESPN's
they're head coach at a podium, yeah, looking completely disheveled.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Does he does not look good right now? No, he
does not look good. I think somebody's got to put
him out of his misery. Chargers are three point favorites.
Three point favorites, so not much. So that's not much really,
but it's going to be viewed because the way that
they've played, if you don't knock them up. And by
the way, I'm hoping we don't get a week on
the fan of well, won't be a week just two
days of charters are terrible because we heard that all

(33:11):
week Eagles week, most peatable team in football. What's what's
a big deal? This is a game we can easily win. Well,
we didn't win it, So maybe we need to have
a greater track record of of accomplishment ourselves this season
before we go down the road of should be easy
to take care of them, because we were told all

(33:32):
week it's gonna be easy to take care of the Eagles,
and I fell for it. I picked the vikings to
I think I was owing three again. I was owing
three again because I took I could have sworn you
had Lions Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay at Tampa Bay, and
that's how I read it, and that's why I took
Tampa to cover. I don't know that I would have

(33:53):
if I'd known it was in Detroit. I want to
blame you for that, even if you don't deserve it,
but you might not be you might not be accurate.
I don't even remember because the Lions did break. They
they they covered, did they not? Wasn't a twenty one nine?
Yeah something like that. Wasn't close. Yeah, I'll look because
you send it to me. Oh that's right, so I
can look the the evidence is somewhere. Did you email

(34:15):
it or did you text it? I emailed it. There's
a digital trail. Let's see if I can find the
guardsy email on that. I'll say, what, let's break, I'll
pull it too. We'll stay on schedule because we went
along understandably with Andy Lueger. I will get back to
some more Viking stuff I want to do. Get I
do want to get into the You're gonna be mad
at yourseling am I really?

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I feel even dummer. NBA opens tonight, right, is it?
Is it? Two games?

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Double header nbr NB on the taboo. Have you seen
the two and a half minute? Is it emotional? Is
it good? Is it well done?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
I'll send it to you. You can decide. I think
we could probably play it, but yeah I did. I
had goosebumps for sure.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Is MJ going to be.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Somebody said he's going to be a part of it
tonight too. Is that true?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
He's basically like a special assistant. I have an MJ theory.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I want to run by you as well, because I
know Falness is waiting for this particular angle to be covered.
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Speaker 2 (35:27):
I wonder if cousins will be traded before it's when's
the deadline? Two weeks? I think, so I'll look wonder
if he will be dealt trying to figure out who
would be likely to I assume it's complicated with his contract,
et cetera. Some team he's got a huge contract. And

(35:47):
then you're back to what is he at this point? Oh,
we don't know. We haven't seen him play this year,
have we?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
No?

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I mean, he's allegedly healthier again because he's got more
time since the last injury.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
But that next day to day though, Yeah, it might
be a showcase for him this weekend. It is two
weeks from today, two weeks from today, three o'clock Central time.
You sent to me the I think it's a good
two and a half minute, like the.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Reintroduction of the NBC brand to the National Basketball Association
video right. So it's gonna lose a little via audio
because some of it is just facial expressions, the silences,
the reactions. But I think it'll still play pretty well.
I know I had goosebumps. I think you did too

(36:34):
as a child of the nineties. Absolutely, but let's listen.
This is just sort of this is the official I
think the Peacock brand is back for National Basketball Association action.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Right, Rut.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
When I say the NBA on NBC, what memories come
to mind? I have none?

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, nineteen nineties s GA. I need a memory from there.
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
I wasn't old enough, Brunton, I wasn't a lot of
chat women, Yama. You're joking, right, Anthony, Michael Jordan Boom boom,
he nailed it enough said he nailed it. Here's m Jay.
You really want to know that?

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Eight?

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh, Mike, you hear it that I played?

Speaker 4 (37:31):
You got a picture painted of authenticity, just genuine love
for the game. Yeah fast, super super nostalgia. So it
was just super dope and lebron from.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Me class the Flats did this. Fondest memory of the
nineties is down the rivalries they playing that the heyday
the NBA. I want to see m k D Magnetic
straight from I.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Knew Maggie Johnson's Reggie got you.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
You could feel the content, you can feel the competitive.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
And so of the basketball court a man by.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
People always ask me which eraror do I you in?
That's what you did decide about?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Okay, Ronna Bastball truly is a global for Reggie in
the game we all love.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Oh yeah, it's back magic. The music is the NBA NBC.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Do you know the story about the voiceover that Cashaman, No,
the guy that just said this is the NBA on NBC. No,
that's I'll have to look up his name. That's the
original guy. But he's since passed away since the NBA,
since the NBA left NBC. So they asked his family
if they could basically do ai generation of his voice

(39:36):
to do the teams because there's some there's probably some
teams that aren't even around, so to do the team's intro,
you know, Houston Rockets versus Golden State Warriors, and the
family said, yeah, which is I think pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
It's interesting. I've not heard that. I just don't even
know about Sunday afternoon, so they don't in part because
then again, like you say, it was, there weren't as
many games on so it was more special everything, Like
once upon a time there was a Major League Baseball
Game of the Week on a Saturday, and that was
it unless you were lucky enough to have a you know,

(40:09):
a superstation in your town. And so it was very different,
and so it felt bigger. The Jordan question, and I
love the Jordan drops in there of him almost allah
the Netflix, the Last Dandy. Here's my concern. This is
where it's a really tricky thing. I'm intrigued by what

(40:34):
Jordan's contributions are going to be, but I'm almost hesitant
because part of to me, what the Jordan brand has
become is a little Greta Garbo like. It's a little
bit of mystery. It's, you know, because there have been

(40:55):
a million issues in the last five years in the NBA.
We got I won to what Michael thinks, right and
we don't know, because he rarely makes it a point
to say anything other than for that documentary. So I
hope they're they're they're you know, we've had a lot
of talk in this show about balancing acts. I hope
they master the balancing act of enough Michael to tease

(41:20):
us and make it interesting because he's he is so
authentic and what he represents in that throwback to the
game without overexposing him. I don't want to know what
Michael thinks about everything, sure, I really don't, because then
I think it's like, oh, I'm big dal It's just
another guy, just another talking head talking now again for
a while. Maybe it wouldn't matter because we haven't heard

(41:42):
from him and be like, yeah, more, Michael, give me more.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Michael.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I think you leave him? What's that old you know,
leave them wanting more? So I want I think less
is more in the case of Michael Jordan, you know,
little tastes here and there, But don't overexpose him because
there's a mystery to the name, there's a solemnity to
what he represents, to the era that he hearkens back to,

(42:09):
where it's almost like I don't want him to have
to come down off his high horse, right and and
mess with the rest of us us peasants.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Even in terms of the game, I don't want too much.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, I'm curious how they are going to use him,
And it does sound like it's going to be pretty specialized.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
You know, he's not going to be one of the
main analysts.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
So I don't know if he's just gonna do random sitdowns,
if he's going to do right, that's the question. That's
just being very I mean, somebody interviewed for a podcast.
I don't remember who it was, Chris Collinsworth, interestingly enough,
and Collinsworth said basically, you know, I'm not supposed none
of us.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Were all sworn. I mean, it's we all took a
blood oath, yeah, to not say anything about what Michael's
contributions are going to be. But he said, I'm going
to say something anyway, it's going to be like nothing
you could possibly imagine. Now that does raise the bar.
What do you mean by that? Wow? But Collinsworth did
not underplay it at all. He made it sound like

(43:07):
they got some stuff up their sleeve with him. That's
going to be it's going to get a lot of
attention and that people are definitely going to enjoy. So
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
He's right, Well, no, because I think you have to
account for Collinsworth inflation. He's the guy that told us
Sean Mannion was ready for his moment on Sunday Nights for.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Two series two, well maybe one.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
This guy he is and he's not afraid of this
all unbelievable Sean Mannyon. He's ready to sling it around
lambeau Field. That's what I'm worried about collins Worth inflation
because he thinks everything's great and things that we've never
seen before.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, well might be right about that. We'll see So
I don't know. Isn't it funny though? Just having that
theme song back though? Is such a big deal to people?
What happened to the TV?

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Just?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah mine too? Uh? Didn't we pay the bill again?
So is tonight NBC or tonighty PN? I don't even
know NBC and I think the pregames are going on
right now, so it's uh so tonight. The early game
is Durant, It's Houston and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City right yep.
The defending World champions are they getting their rings tonight?

(44:16):
Is it in ok I don't know. That's a good question.
I think I'm not sure. And then the second game
is in La. I think it's Golden State at La
it is and Lebron is not playing for the Lakers. Sciatica, Yeah,
that's what it was. That where we're hearing exactly it.
So and then we start tomorrow night in Portland. A

(44:38):
couple of people on the text lint already calling it
loser proof. That's what gets us in trouble. And as
I mentioned at the top of the show, if you've
not read it, Johnny Athletic is predicted officially, it's in
writing that your Minnesota Timberwolves will win the NBA title.
That is a nice package this year. Now we'll talk

(44:58):
more extensively about the Wolves tomor it is. There's a
part of me that has said.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I mean, we didn't we couldn't make any big moves
this year. We're still not convinced that Dillingham's ready to
make a big jump. Got a couple other kids who
might make decent jumps. But we've kind of put the
band back together. But I guess it is worth remembering

(45:25):
the Wolves finished the regular season twenty and four. Nice run.
That's an awfully good record. When Ran Randall came back,
they did figure some stuff out. Schedule was easier, schedule
was easier, but they still went twenty and four and
then made it well, I don't say easily, but they
dominated the Lakers right correct, knocked off now, they got

(45:46):
a break in the Warriors series obviously, and then it
all fell apart. But Oklahoma City was clearly the best
team in basketball right I don't even know. I'm actually
still more bothered by the way we didn't compete with
the Mavericks than the way we didn't compete with Oklahoma City.
Because I think Olama City was the best team by
far in the NBA last year. I think there's any
question about it. But we do have to remember they

(46:09):
seem to figure out a lot down the stretch last season.
The fashionable pick i've seen nationally if you don't pick
Oklahoma City, the fashionable pick is Denver. The Nuggets are
getting some love, and I understand that because they did
make some I think helpful changes to their team. I

(46:29):
think this is a much better This team is more
equipped to compete for an NBA title than it was
a year ago. I don't hear many people talking about
the Wolves, and that may serve a purpose. It's the
best place to be often nationally is riding a little
you know, just flying a little bit under the radar

(46:51):
where people are not talking about you all that much,
because it doesn't mean you can't win just because they're
not talking about you. It might mean that you're in
a better position where you know, you don't, at least nationally,
have the same expectation that might exist locally. Let's make
this the top of the hour pause. We've got a
half hour yet to go. Well, look at some texts
and some good ones coming in, not only NBA but

(47:13):
related to a couple of other subjects we've explored today,
including the big big Vikings quarterback announcement, state, some Anoka

(47:50):
guy rights. I just saw snippets. Oh, I bet it's
just snippets of MJ playing ping pong and air hockey
with various star player and MJ takes it way too
seriously the whole time.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
That's possible, although I'd find that interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I think is Johnny Athletic saying the Wolves will win
the title more less likely than the Wild making the play. Wow,
we'll ask him tomorrow at four thirty he'll answer to
I don't think he'll mind answering that question, Willie, I
think you have any problem he's going to be with
the club.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
You said he will be in Portland. He leaves tomorrow. Yeah,
I assume follow them to La. Then I think that's
what he said.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
For the second game, that's Friday night, correct, Yes, and
then we have the home opener. I think it's a
six o'clock start. Will that game beyond the fan might
be Oh, I don't know what what Wild hockey on
that same Sunday?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yeah, that game is not on the fan, is not?
The first two are on the fan that is not
there's a Wild game.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
The third one will be on the Timberwolves channel via
the iHeartRadio app sting.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
That's a pre set now Timberwolves channel be easy of
radio app. It's very easy to find it. I am
there's just sometimes I look up. It's ESPN's doing their
crudential playoff projection using the Associated Press poll. And again,
even though this doesn't mean it's going to happen, but
right now they have you know, with a bye.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
The Indiana Hoosiers. Yeah, right, as the number two seed.
Do you realize how absurd that is? Yes, It's just
that's the word for it. It's absurd to even see that,
even though all it is now is a projection that
could change in the basis of them lang An Egg
at Maryland at Langon Egg at Penn State. Somehow Ucla

(49:36):
shocking the world and beating them this Saturday. Your game's
two thirty, by the way, ten. Yeah, has the spread changed?
We talked about this yesterday. I thought the Iowa margin
of I guess favorite they were favored yesterday by like
eight and a half points, was ridiculous. But maybe I

(49:57):
got too excited about the way the Gophers played Nebraska.
I mean, it's always about consistency, it really is. I mean,
that did not look like the same team that took
on Purdue nine and a half nine and a half.
It just feels like way too many I feel it does. Definitely.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I thought seven was too many for Nebraska. They're seven
and a half point favorites over Northwestern. I think that's
too many. That's strange too. Yeah, it's a wacky world.
Maybe they're just trying to get get money going that
might be the answer. So the head coach makes it
official today no surprise, that JJ McCarthy will not start,
and he will again not even be the backup. He

(50:34):
will be the emergency quarterback in Los Angeles when the
Vikings take on the Chargers on Thursday night, all the
action beginning right here in the fan at five. The
starter will be, much to the chagrin of many people
in our texting audience, will be Carson Wentz and he'll
be backed up by your guy Max Brosmer as well.

(50:54):
And that's sort of where we're at here. You established earlier,
the Chargers are three point despite the fact they've lost
three out of four. They are three point favorites at home,
so that's not a huge amount, but they are favored.
So you know, everybody's trying to decide what to make
of the koc comment that if this were a full week,

(51:19):
in other words, if the Vikings were playing that game
on a Sunday, that it might be a different story
by Friday is basically what the coach said. So the
intimation seemed to be we haven't forgotten about JJ, and
if we had a full week, I might even be
making a different declaration.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
By the end of the week. I'm trying to figure
out if he means that or he feels obligated to
say it. You know, I don't know what the answer
is to that question. Maybe it's his way of saying
he is getting closer yep, or he's making a decent
amount of progress. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
He might also be thinking and you guys, saw did
you see the game? You saw a Carson?

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Right?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I mean he might be seeing that, yeah, right, he
might finally, yes, have convinced himself. All right, the Carson
thing was cute. We got to go back. Well, now
we got to go back even though we've got nothing
to shoot. Well, I guess we have a good one
good quarter show for his first two games. But we've
always said that this was going to be fairly easy
to follow. If Wentz dominated, you keep playing, and I

(52:22):
stand by that. If he starts to struggle, the door
has been opened. Although I'm a little bit more sympathetic
to his cause, and I think a lot of people
out there based on all of the other I guess
surrounding circumstances regarding this offense. You know, a couple of
the passes he threw were inexplicable. They're inexcusable. I'll grant

(52:43):
you that point. But I also thought, over the course
of a game, he rallies enough where I can't say
he's awful. I can just say he's inconsistent, and I
can say part of that inconsistency has to do with coaching.
Part of that inconsistency has to do with what he's
dealing with a couple of spots of the offense line
and even penalties that he had nothing to do with
that in one case negated a touchdown pass and a

(53:06):
you know, a pretty close call with Hockinson that nullified
another touchdown. But the door has certainly been opened enough
to where you can see your way back to McCarthy.
You just got to go over your eyes open because
there's no guarantee he's going to come to the rescue
immediately and be the star that you want him to be,

(53:28):
just because you want him to be that We just
I think what we have in front of us is
the Wentz mistakes more recent than the JJ McCarthy mistakes.
Now I get the difference. The difference is a belief
that Wentz, if he's making these mistakes at this point
in his career. It's further proof that he is what

(53:49):
he is. And in the case of Mcarthury, you can
say the mistakes might lead somewhere because of the talent
that you thought you saw in him when you drafted
him that and moved up to get him. That is
a fair observation as well. Let's do this, let's break
wrap up, remind you what you missed on a very
busy show and what we have coming up tomorrow on
a truncated program. Are we truncated tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (54:10):
We are, Yeah, because of some Vikings programming and I
believe Wild hockey into Timberwolves basketball.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
It's a busy night, very very busy.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
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Speaker 1 (54:41):
So current players can really join this week because they're
in the very busy They got a big game on
this week.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
It is I mean, we're we lose this game. We're
below five hundred. As it is, we're still we're already
in last place. I don't even know who the Bears
play this week. They've been playing some very beatable well
I should you should give them at more credit for that.
They did be Washington and Washington, but they hosted the Saints,
which is kind of a gimme. They did take advantage

(55:06):
of it. They're playing good defense, their offense is still
not great. They've got the Ravens on the road, and
the Ravens still I don't believe have their starter back.
And Lamar Jacks right, you know he'll be back. First
game back will be against us, of course, sall he's
a bad luck. Yeah, what do we have after Biden's Country?
Do we know? Dan Patrick? Dan Patrick Show tonight, Yes,
Dan Patrick. Tomorrow will be Glenn Mason in studio here

(55:32):
thirty Johnny Athletic tracking the Wolves. He will be Dateline, Portland,
Oregon as we preview the Wolves twenty twenty five twenty
six season review, perhaps what happens tonight in the NBA
openers as well. I want to thank an outstanding cavalcade
of guests today, very eclectic set of guests. Kevin Seaffert

(55:55):
joined at three point fifteen Luigi tracking the Wild. He's
on the road trip, still in the Greater New York
tri state area. He'll wrap up the road trip, I
think when they take on Joisey tomorrow night on the Fan.
And then four point thirty we had a good hour
visit with Andy Lueger in studio about his op ed

(56:17):
piece that's raising some eyebrows. It appeared in the start
to being over the weekend. We did cover a number
of other subjects, including his own interest in the concert community.
He was very busy basically seeing two concerts and the
Vikings the last four nights. He said, Elvis Costello last night,

(56:37):
Paul McCartney was that Friday night it was, and then
Vikings hosting the Eagles on Sunday. So if you missed it,
please podcast that as as well and you might well
enjoy it. I would think it was a tough subject.
I mean a lot of it was ended up being
pretty serious but important stuff that we covered indeed with him,

(57:02):
and we'll continue to track we can get to the
bottom of all seventy seven items on the Mean Girl
Style burn book that apparently Glenn Taylor put together to
try to convince the arbitrators to not let the purchase
go through to a Rod and Mark Laurie. We had
a number of good suggestions today. I hope and when,

(57:27):
if the whole list ever comes out, that there will
be some that are a little more legitimate, because in
all serious it's the ones that are getting the attention
via Pablo Tory because he broke this story. They're embarrassing
because they have nothing to do with the story. They
just it sounds like the rantings of a very desperate man,
is what it sounds like. It's just and a good businessman.

(57:51):
It comes off like, oh god, you want to they're
cringe worthy. What they attempted to do out of I
guess are he attempted to do apparently out of desperation,
and we recall he did not win the vote longer. Yeah,
although he's got four tickets forever. I think it's ten years.
Ten years. Yeah, that's a little less than for us. Yeah,

(58:12):
it's a good run. It's a very good run. You're
kidding me. I see they did you get in it?
Is it the same seats they're in there? I think
it's the same seats. Yeah, So I think A Louri
still sit they go. Yeah, I'm wondering if they will
switch where they want to be. You think they like
the spots they're in. I think they do.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
They can see the bench, Yeah, they're on that side.
I think they like their seats next to Charlie Swanson Lexus.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
We want to be closer to center court them, you
could be. Yeah, I'm just saying they pay for those tickets. Yeah,
that's true, and that's money out of their pocket.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yes, I think it's more money if you get closer
to They turn around tomorrow and tried to sell the team,
they would make what another two million?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Do they turn around immediately make another two million dollars
least they basically double there and maybe more. Yeah, Yeah,
I mean I don't think that's I don't think the
league would go along with that. But that's the they
walk in. They start from day one knowing that they's
an incredible deal. It's a hell of a deal. And
maybe Glenn was too nice. I don't know, But I mean,
it's not their fault.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
Is it.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
No, I don't think they they made the sale. Yeah,
very very strange. Is the weather ever gonna get better?
By the way, it's chili and rainy. It's supposed to be.
That's the Hawkeye weather supposed to be. Like, you haven't
even lost for Saturday, because a mutter field would probably
be good for them, right, because they don't they that's
the kind of game they like, they tend to like

(59:35):
to play. I know we ran better finally, Yeah, But nevertheless,
I think that that plays to their advantage, does it?
Because we can throw? Yes?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Their quarterback has zero passing touchdowns in Big Ten Play zero.
You have seven rushing touchdowns so far this season. He's
a really effective runner.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds like Iowa. Thanks for watching today,
Thank you indeed for listening, and we look forward to
visit you with you tomorrow. Beginning it through a

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Lot of things that are easily correctable.