October 22, 2025 • 45 mins
Dan Barreiro opens the show discussing the "Changing of the Guard" with the report that Mike Conley will come off the bench and Donte DiVencenzo will be the Wolves starting point guard. Glen Mason is back in-studio for a great hour of college football talk and stories in the latest edition of "Mase In Your Face!"
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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you're it's the changing of the guard Leader fan fan
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N dot com One minute and fifty five seconds past
the hour of three o'clock central daylight time, welcome back.
It is a midweek that means Wednesday edition of the
Bumper to Bumper program on a crisp, very crisp, very chilly,
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although now sunny at least partly weekday afternoon here in
the Twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul guards He
produces the show. I am the host of the program
form Ringstein Retch newspaper of the Twin Cities. My name
is Dan Barrero. We were delighted that you were along
for what is kind of a truncated ride. Today. We've
got Minnesota while to hockey to get to East coast.
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I think we're playing Joisey tonight, correct, yes, And we
also have some vikings programming to wedge in ahead of that,
so that means we're done at five point thirty. Once
upon a time, this was a two and a half
hour show. That's what I've heard. When the Chad Barrero
divorce took place. That's where it worked, right. Chad was
two to about four forty seven and I started about
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four fifty till seven o'clock. Well, that's the way it
went some of the time. But it's hard to get
everything in into and a half. You're going to find
that out time. May well find that out. Today I
might be begging for us to pre empt the Vikings
programming and maybe even the first period of a Minnesota
Wild hockey. We do have I think a very eclectic, controversial,
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and I hope entertaining program for you between now and
the aforementioned thirty This evening, Bratshawn Brian Cafe in text
Line is open at six four six, eight six. This
is of course opening night for your Minnesota Timberwolves, who
will take on the Portland Trailblazers in Portland, Oregon, where
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once upon a time the big redhead Bill Walton dominated long, long,
long time ago. Johnny Athletic just landed he will file
a live report from Portland scheduled I believe for is
it four to thirty tonight? You got it four thirty
this evening. Mace in your face in studio at the
bottom of this hour. We had to obviously move some
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schedules around, so Mace three point thirty and Johnny Athletic
at four thirty. Interesting news that Johnny has now confirmed
who is the original source? Chris Haynes. Chris Haynes noted
that his sources told him that Dante DiVincenzo will be
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starting as at point guard tonight, with Mike Conley still
expected to not only participate, but to have a key
row with this team coming off the bench. I had
not had any inkling that this was even being discussed.
There had been so much during training camp of Conley
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still an important part of this. We talked to Conley.
I don't think he may have known a lot already
then and not said I don't know. Hopefully we'll find
out from Johnny how long this has been percolating, what
this exactly means, and what we should make of this
particular news. I'll add this to it that I missed
on the project yesterday. Your guy Finchy was on with
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Paul Allen yesterday. Did you read this quote? I think
we will maybe expect him Anthony Edwards to play on
the ball a little bit more. Yeah, I think we'll
try to play him as the lead guard more and more,
and I will tell you I don't love it. I
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first of all, I don't know how much more lead
guard Anthony Edwards could play. I mean, he essentially a
lot of the time did have the ball in his hands.
And what's funny about it is what we'd been kind
of told to training camp was, well, some of this
is trying to get him to move better without the ball,
to cut better without the ball, knowing that he may
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initiate the offense the ball is going to be back
in his hands as well. All this tells me these
two moves and they may work out. We'll see. Even
though neither of these players is a point guard, as
far as I'm concerned, sorry that even in the new
and advanced NBA, I don't think either one of them
has natural inclination to make teammates better. I don't. In fact,
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I think you take away from what they do best.
But what it does this not tell us that they're
just not gonna throw Dialingham in the deep end, that
they have not seen enough through training camp to say
all right, yeah, from the start of the season, he's
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gonna be Conley's going to start and he's going to
be the backup guard and by the end of games,
he might end up playing at the end of games
more than Conley. This tells me that they don't trust
Dillingham yet. I'm not saying they should, but I'm saying
this is to me, these two that quote and this
can call it an announcement, but this reporting indicates to
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me there's just not much belief in him right now.
Now that can change. How can he change it? Play well?
Play well in the stretches that he gets. But Johnny
had mentioned in confirming the story that before the Vincenzo
was hurt, he played very well in this role. He
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might be right. I will still tell you my own
I mean, just watching and in my own shall we
say reporting, in talking to people I trust around the league,
I don't think that's the greatest natural fit for him.
I just don't. I think he's better off, maybe even
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more than Anthony Edwards bouncing around, playing off the ball,
taking shots, et cetera. Now the league, I understand the
purity at the point, you could say Mike Conley represented
the last of the pure point guards. It's a different
era today. We all understand now most of point the
point guards are scoring point guards. But I still think
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I'm just not convinced there's great there's a great sensibility
in either case. So we'll see how this goes. And
we may be getting too hung up on who starts
the game again. Yeah, but so if part of the
method to it is we are adamant about lowering the
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number of lessening the number of minutes that Conley plays,
this is part of the way and we're going to
stick to that because he is older and we do
want to get the best out of him, and it's
hard to keep the minutes as low, perhaps sometimes as
we want if he starts the game, especially if he's
going to finish the game too.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
This may be part of the reason they're going this route,
but it's an interesting move and an interesting decision. And
we've said all along that this year is about really
what a series of tweaks, little things that might make
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to help them take that last step. There's not going
to be anything sizable, because there's certainly nothing sizable. You know,
last year we had the big trade red before the deadline,
I should say, right before training camp. We had to
go beart trade a couple of years before that, major
personnel shifts that were either going to make them better
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or make them worse. This time around, it's really not
that much about the personnel. Nikkeel is a nice player,
but he's not on the same level as some of
these other players that have come and gone. So it's
more about shaping, editing, tweaking, perfecting around the edges. Is
it not to find out how this team can maintain
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and then even perhaps take that last step. We've also
heard during training camp that they really want to lean
into playing faster right. Yes, that's true, and Dante DiVincenzo
would represent that. What's interesting about this to me is
I feel like DiVincenzo is a better coming off the
bench spark plug six man than Mike Conley is. I
agree if you're looking for a change up or a
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mix up. So I'm curious to see how this looks.
I'm curios to see who comes off the bench first
in that spot. What are they going to do with Shannon?
What are they going to do with Clark? I know
they're not point guards, but they're gonna have the ball.
Shannon certainly will, so I'm Evincenzo's a scorer. I'm sorry,
and not always a great one. I mean, he was
up and down last year. For sure. I think he
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I think they got to have I felt all along
a better version of him, a more consistent version than
a year ago. And the assumption is well Randall eventually
kind of found his place right and maybe now with
the extra year the chance to relax been here since
the started training camp, get more out of him as well,
But that will be one of the open questions.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Maybe the plan is for Conley to come in with
a would be scorer. At the same time, I don't
know where he still can be what he is, but
I still I just viewed the Vincenzo and again I
will say he if I'm evaluating him over the course
of the entire season last year, he disappointed me a
little bit. I thought we would get more out of
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him than we did. In fact, if you're a call
to me, he was the key to the trade and
the word on the street was the Wolves weren't going
to do it until the Knicks were willing to include
the Evincenzo. And I thought we saw stretches of him
where I was pleased and other stretches were going uh
a little more because one of the raps I had
heard out of New York, even from people who liked
him there was he's, you know, he's a little up
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and down, very streaky shooting. He's very streaky, and he's
even just even his entire approach. So we'll see how
that goes. But little intrigue right to start the twenty
twenty five to twenty sixth season, because you know the
fact that this is being raised or reported the day
of their opener indicates to a certain extent that the
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Wolves were not all that interested in making much of
a production about it, right, any kind of major announcement
about it. But they obviously think there's a reason that
led them down this particular road. So we'll see how
out goes and where, you know, what other information we
can get from Johnny. And also how's Anthony Edwards back
because he was on the injury report asted is questionable
yesterday backspasm, backspasms? Is anything changed? I mean the report
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is the report. He was at shoot around today that
was open. I hope he doesn't call JJ McCarthy for
an opinion. He was open, should play the practice part
that was open to the media. He was shooting around
with Randalls. So he was out there this morning. It's
not like he had to lay in bed all morning. Yeah,
but he's not in traction. Doesn't seem like as far
as we know, doesn't seem like it is ready. Yeah,
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Is it too late, guardsy for us to implement the
triangle offense? You mean for the Timberwolves. It's the Timberwolves.
This's too late, you think for us to do that.
I mean the season starts tonight. Well, yeah, the most
complicated basketball offense ever created, right that it's it's it's
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Rubik's cube like, so I'm guessing it would take more
than a minute, yeah, or two to implement it. Yeah,
but I don't know. I just see what Johnny says.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
But I.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We've heard with Anthony the Jordan comparison. Not to say
he's on there his level or Kobe, but the idea was, well,
how can he learn from those two players about other
ways to score? Right, easier ways to score, so everything's
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not so complicated. And what I remember again is that
meant the ball not constantly being in their hands. Now, ultimately,
when the shot clocks at eight, they got it. They
got the ball. We get that same should apply to
Anthony Edwards, But there were other people who brought the
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ball up, other people who initiated the offense. And I
still think that's expecting too much of him. I do.
I think it's gonna make it harder for him. I
think to learn those other things. We'll see now that
may there may be some method of the madness. And again,
we all understand that Conley is long longer in the
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tooth and realistically that role was going to have to
be shared, probably more than ever because of his age
in terms of how many minutes he's played, et cetera.
But the problem is not necessarily I'm not trying to
just defend Conley. I'm trying to defend what Conley represents.
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And my point is, well, if not him, then a
maybe younger, perhaps a little bit more athletic version of
him that's still needed in this thing, I think, don't you.
I really do think that's part of the solution here.
And in a perfect world, that's what Dillingham represented right
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at the front end. That was the idea. Yeah, he's
the guy in waiting who is obviously more athletic, but
what you know, it was hard to know, well, how
good is he actually running something? And is he too little?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Is he too slight? I think there's still that feeling
that he's awfully slight and that hurts defensive defensive more
than offensively. I'm interested to see how it actually plays out. Yeah,
because I am a throwback point guard guy like you are,
we still play Ricky Rubio sound bites. There's a reason
why we do that. We'll still never know how good
the Wolves might have been if he'd stayed healthy twenty
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and twenty on that Friday. Nay, we'll always remember it.
It's one of the great What is I think Kobe
did it on purpose? Do you think he was afraid?
I do he probably? They just they just knocked knees correct, Yes, yeah, yeah,
don't forget nothing. Everything changed after that for Rubio. Everything
like Randall's a guy that can bring the ball up.
But they have guys. Yeah, they're going to be I
think more unconventional in terms of not having just the throwback,
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throwback point guard. So but all the analytics did they
not set it for key stretches we played on the floor?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Him, I should say the team was better when he
was on the floor. For whatever the reason. Their offensive
efficiency was way up. I think even their defense was better,
which people wouldn't necessarily think. I'm also curious about because
last year the bit with him was he always talked
about his first shift, and they would always say, you
got to go out there in your first six minute shift,
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because that's what they did, right, They ran him out
there for five or six minutes, and we need more
from you in that first shift. So now are they
reversing it? Because what are his shifts going to look like?
First of all, we don't even know that. But are
they saying, when you get out there, you do have
to be Well, you can't ease in. You ease in
while watching the first handful of minutes, however, you're out
and then when you get out there go and then
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when you're done, you're done, and we're putting you back
out here on ice. I don't know, it'll be interesting
to see because well, there's not like Dante off the
bench better so I always had because I think he's
better than most bench players and second teamers and all
of that. It was like having another starter level player
off your bench. That's I think part of what was
the appeal of the d Yes was and now Conley
has to be that exactly and and and now again
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there's no law you can you can you can throw
out some ideas, try some things. Uh, doesn't mean you're
going to lose him. Conley is not. He's an adult.
He's not going to react that way. So we'll see.
I mean, it's a given, is it not? The first
wing scorer off the bench. Well, I guess it's how
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he depends on how you classify if you classified Nasrit
as a wing scorer or a front court guy, it's
going to be Shannon. Correct, Shannon is going to have
probably major he's going to have He's the guy who's
going to benefit the most from a minute standpoint with
Nikiel being gone. Yeah, it has to be correct, I
believe so. Yeah, I would think so. He was the
guy that got run in the postseason last year when
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they started to tweak things a little bit, at least
in the Oklahoma City Series. You know what, I think.
I'm reminded we did try did Rambus not try the
triangle a little bit? A little bit? He did it.
He did it, and it didn't work for us, did it?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Which you know, the the open joke in basketball was, Yeah,
the triangle is great if you happen to have Michael
Jordan or Kobe Bryant to run it, but we have
Anthony Edwards. Now that's what they're supposed to be. Yeah,
I mean, he's watching film of those guys. He's trying
to be those guys. He's learning post tricks from MJ
who was brilliant last night at NBC. I've watched his
clips like fifty times. Well again, I was asking whether
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they're going to be able to reveal some of Mike
without overexposing him, and I thought they played it perfectly.
They It wasn't like they covered everything. No, And then
they mentioned, oh guess what next week we're gonna ask
Mike about load management. Oh yeah, that's the way to
do it. Just drips and just one or two items
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every once in a while is definitely the way to
do it. I thought that was very a very successful
opening salvo in you know, making Jordan part of the coverage.
You saw the Ryder Cup free throw things?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yes, do you believe it? Of course I do. I
mean Michael doesn't need to make anything else. I sold
it well. But even Michael probably has to know, well,
I got it. This is a dramatic moment. I got
to give him something big. It's hard to believe that
Michael Jordan would be nervous about anything, but especially because
let me ask you this, would we have heard the
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story if he had missed the free throw? I told
the story. He may have No, Actually, you're you're right,
he wouldn't. He wouldn't have brought it up. He would
have gone to some place selves And good job by Tarico,
because sometimes you can lose yourself. In Michael Jordan's eyes,
one hundred percent good job asking the obvious follow up,
did you make the freeze? Yes? Did you switch it?
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And Jordan absolutely yeah. It was hair stood up on
the back of my neck when I didn't make it
through the second game. But I did watch the first
game highly entertaining and went on too longeph double ot.
It was a double ote f Yes, it was, but
a nice game very night. I mean, that's a really
good way. You can't if you're NBC or any network,
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you can't. You can't, you know, hope and pray for
a better opener than that, right the Laker teams, Yeah,
going hammer and tong neck and neck down through two ots,
and the Lakers made it interesting at the end of
their game against Golden State, they didn't end up winning.
Luca was ridiculous. Here's my problem with Luca already, I
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think he's already gaining weight. I think I think City
Luca is already starting to put the pounds in bet Now,
I'm not saying he looked like he did a year ago,
but he didn't look like he did in all those
videos we saw interesting those were doctored. They could just
wondering they could have been. He had like forty a
million assists. Buckets and Curry were both very good. Well
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didn't they didn't Buckets go like fifteen for fifteen from
the free throw line like that? Yeah? Yeah. Did you
hear about what he said about his bet? No with
with Curry. No, the season and I don't know what
they what the winner gets, but the bet had to
do with which basically Bucket said, by the end of
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the season, I will finish with a higher free throw
percentage than you will. And I think Steph Curry is
one of the all time leaders in that. Yeah, he's
over his career. Yeah, yeah, interesting. So I don't know
what the bet is, but I thought that was kind
of interesting. Good luck to him. Hope you guys stay healthy.
A lot of other games. Tonight Nick's and Cavaliers tonight.
That's a nice, nice ballgame. No, did you hear about
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the new cat controversy. No, there's a new cat controversy
and it's pretty juicy. All right, let's do this, let's
stay on schedule. We've got Johnny with all kinds of
NBA speculation and his reaction to the apparent news that
Dante de Vincenzo will start at point guard in place
of Mike Conley tonight, not due to injury, but by
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coach's decision. So is this long term? Is this an experiment?
What does he make of it? What are the ramifications
regarding the bench, et cetera. All of that with Johnny
from Portland in about an hour. Mace in your face.
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Speaker 3 (22:12):
San, It's time for another edition of Mace in your
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Speaker 2 (22:29):
Here's Dan Burrero. Mace is in my face in studio
here for the second consecutive week. Welcome back, and you
better be nice because I'm gonna be here ready, are you?
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Next week too?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
You know what before?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Can I before you get going, huh, Mace in your face? Yes,
you guys? Well, I never get anything. I don't get
a glass of water from your guys. I got a
present for you today, do you seriously?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I'm telling you?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Well, look at this.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Check this out? Hot off the.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Press in your face. It's you. You got like a
little microphone deal.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Here. I don't know if I'm coaching up or whatever,
but anyway, I stopped in Loose Lime Brewery.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Ever been in there?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
No, My good friend Peter Lambert runs the place. It's
a great, great place up there in Plymouth. But anyway, uh, hey, you.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Get the headset gone. Guards, are you supposed to be
a coach?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Here?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
A broadcast whatever? He needs to be guardian. I'm gonna
have you look at the at the at the drawing.
Does this not look like ship Hartman? No, I think
it looks a like shit. I was gonna say it
looks like Jerry Kill and the Wikipedia.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
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And they did this junction because you know what base
they got that what do you cut trademark?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You don't have that copyrighted yet? You bet I do?
Did you get?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I did that so in conjunction with him. Yeah, they
did that.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And you know they're all Minnesota and one of us
as you would say all the time. But anyway, they
did those shirts and hot off the press and uh,
you know, walking in I was having the shirt the
guys stopping lies. What do you got there, coach?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I showed him.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He goes, I want that, I said, not for sale.
I got to give it to my buddies. I want
to buy it. Well, so that's how I told him.
I looked up and you know, you gotta what do
you get? You go to a soda stick dot com.
You can get it there, so.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You can set you can buy it there. Percentage do
you get none? I don't believe No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Believe you very cheribed.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I like you charitable zero fac can figure it out.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
So anyway, So.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
There's a Mason your faceline.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
How's that?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I love it. It's officially there, so if people go
to that site they can purchase the shirt.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's exactly right outstanding. Yeah, it's about time. It's for
a good clause. And they're in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Well, you know whatever. And the thing about it for
all you people out.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
There, you know, if you really want to take off
my good friend Danny.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Barrero, you don't have any glasses on either, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Get him in there and wear and wear him at
the fair next year. That would be good.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I wouldn't be offended by that at all. Yeah, so
your face this is this is quite a coordinated effort. Mace.
I gotta say, I'm gonna start calling you side deal.
Glenn Soda Stick is already tweeted about it. He's getting
something out of it. I just down get the official
Mace in your face shirt. There it is, it's right there.
I just retweeted it. I mean you you you were
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like to the last penny when you were here as
coach negotiating their nextra buck here an extra perk there.
You never stopped. You're getting something.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Out of this. I'm getting nothing.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
We need to get you the best by deal so
you can get that TV back. That's what that's next.
We need to get that TV is anyway, I I
wish we could.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You know. It really ticked me off about that whole
deal's brought up the sorry no no, what I got
shown the door?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes, I remember it. Maybe I told you go ahead.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I wanted to keep my cell phone number.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I tell you this, yeah you did, but go ahead.
I wanted to keep myself because you know, it was
a university phone.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
You can't do whatever, but you can take the number
and would you Well, initially they said yes, and then
one of the people, not not mister Maturia, but somebody
else came and said, we decided not to do it. Decided,
they made it clear they could have you laterally, they decided.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's not because they were concerned that if I kept
that number, that down the road, if I got something
involved in something illegal, it may come back to say
that I was using a university phone number. Have you
ever had your hand with Clem Haskins anything ridiculously you law?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
That's that's well, that's insulting.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
It was insulting.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, I don't blame you for me. It was insulting.
There's two things somewhere, you know, in the catacombs, the
University of Minnesota, somewhere I don't with Williams Arena, the stadium,
whatever that I'm looking for that I still want. I
want to see. I want to know where your TV went,
and I want to know where the final four going
to go for men's basketball banner is hidden. Those are
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two things probably in the same man. What if they're
in the same they might be in the same spot.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
When I started thinking, which I think we talked last
week about James Franklin yesspire, and I saw him he
was on.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I didn't see when he was on, but I saw
that Clay was in game day and he was.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Talking about they practice Sundays and they always have a
team meeting at one for five, and at one the
AD walked in and dismissed him and how And I
was thinking to myself, how terrible that is? And then
I started thinking, at least the guy did it to
his face. He didn't call him on the telephone and
let him go.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
When did that happen?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
You can figure it out.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Don't be what I'm saying is I mean at least
the face to face. You're saying face to face like
a man? Yeah, right there, ill eyebull. He came in
And what's the guy's name?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Here's the pas.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
What's the AD's name?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't have pat something.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Here's the graduate. You know his name?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I don't know his name. He's a he's are It
was tough to get through your guarded, your gated. That's
what I was going to say. If if Mother Materia
has shown up at your door, you wouldn't let him in.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You would have it?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Would you have?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Would you have ushered him into the Churchill room. Yeah,
or very.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Least he said, can you I mean I lived ten
minutes from there. He could have said can you come
down and need to talk. I could have gotten my
card down there.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Have you ever like raised that with him?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
No, I wasn't talking about me.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I was talking about I think it was unfair that
James Franklin was complaining that the guide.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
When you're saying it could be worse, it could be
worse and you and for you, it was that's what
you're saying a little bit. Well, this is nice that
it's a nice little dude.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
It is. I got one for guards. He too.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's perfect. So do we have Are we gonna link
it or is that illegal for us to link it
via cafe? I mean nobody's going there, so just retweet it.
I'll retweet it. Retweet it. That's the easiest that there
won't be a problem. You dontweeted it. We're here to help.
I'll help you with your side hustle.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I don't have a side hustle. I really do.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Once it, once it goes, I don't if anybody thinks
that that I'm trying to hawk something to make money
I am not write it down.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Are you sure?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I'm positive.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I'm pretty sure you got some free tacos from that
taco place in Fargo. Not yet?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Not yet.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Let me ask you something that's different, that's very, very different.
What give me the Glenn Mason if Glenn Mason published
online or wherever? A rules of storming the field? Oh yeah,
what would be the mace in your face? Rules are required?
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What well do you think should fans abide by? What
are there, you know, limits to how often and who
you beat in terms of the decision to storm the field?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Now, that's a simple question. To complicate it. First of all,
I for a long time, even when I was coach,
I used to bring up the commissioner.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Of Jim Delaney.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yes, why in college football we let fans storm the
field from a security standpoint at a different day and
age right danger? And it brought up I don't know
if you remember this or not, but Miami of Ohio
was playing Marshall. I think it was Marshall this years
and years ago, and Marshall was really good playing at
(30:43):
Marshall and Miami of Ohio, as I remember, won the game,
and maybe Marshall won the game Marshall won the game
and they went on the field whenever, and some things
were said, maybe I don't know if the person was
in toime to one of the players and maybe touch
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play and the player decked the guy and it became
a major issue. But all the problems that we have,
and all I can tell you is do you ever
see anybody in NFL games any place go on the field?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
No, you know, I to go on the field and
go to jail, and it's because of security. So I
really think in this day and age, there ought to
be a rule.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Now that you know the SEC they've put these rules in.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yes, if you storm the field a grand or you know,
whatever it may be.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
But I know where you're going this.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You want to say, because the Gopher faithful storm the
field last week when they beaten the Bread I think
it's great they beat Nebraska.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Do I think that warranted storm the field.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
No.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I don't think it was any big deal.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
And I would really think that where Pj's got this
program right now that the fans and everybody, you win
the game say well, okay we beat Nebraska, they ain't
any big deal.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Now if they don't have a rule against it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
If you beat the number one team in the country,
Oh okay, well that's different. If you win the Big
Tank Conference, boom, that's a different story.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
But to beat Nebraska, I mean, come on, and they
might have been running twenty fifth.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
If they're the twenty fifth best team in the country,
I'll eat your.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Hat if you got one.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That was well. The other thing, which Guardian I talked about,
and I think you brought up too off air, is
the points spread for that game too. Was you look
back on it? It was absurd and a half nine and.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
A half or seven. And if we talked about it
last week, you know, I don't know. I think the
fix was in. I don't know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Gonna tell you. We're not even getting there yet.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I think the points spread this week down against Iowa,
it's ridiculous, totally eight and a half points.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
And are you I mean you know now wait a minute, now.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I know Iowa had a big offensive production against Wisconsin.
Really a bad football but typically year and in year,
weekend and week out for a long time. Now, they're
good in the kicking game, they're good on defense, and man,
they leave a lot of desire and even when you
look now they don't throw the ball very well.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You know what I just thought of what it's guardsy.
Don't you think it's time? You know, Mace prides himself on,
certainly when he was a coach, doing what challenging his
players right, trying to get the best out of them.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Job.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
As good as you thought you played last week, you
got another level you can go to. I think it's
time we challenge you the same way historically we've challenged
Louis in that you mentioned Wisconsin, and every time you
mentioned Wisconsin, like like by association, the first thing that
(33:54):
comes in my head is Barry Alvarez. So what you
should be doing for this show, for this segment is
every once in a while, maybe once a month, maybe
maybe more. If you get into it, you help us
get a big name from college football like Barry Alvarez
(34:14):
to come on the show at the same time you're on.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
That's his job in there that Louis Louis got us
several legends Scotty's Bullman included, that's his Joe.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I can barely get Glenn here, but you're the but
you're the conduit. Barry Alvarez is not going to pay
you come to the phone if we call him, if
you want me up, you're a favor of you make
you look good.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
No it this is your show.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
This ain't my show. It makes you look great and generous.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
This is on your face, this is your well, you're
selling shirts.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You changed this show.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
To Bumper and Butter Barrell and Mason, then you might
I'll have a guy on every week.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Get Mace in your face. It's so Mace, isn't it. Honestly,
I think you need another shirt for the size your ego.
That would be the other one. Although I don't know
if this shirt's big enough. I don't THINKY make him
big enough at this point, so I'm taking that as
a no.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I think it'd be.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Here's what we're emitting. We don't have your reach. Yes,
So the idea is the way Louis selflessly said, it'd
be good radio to have Louis on together. Who is
the Kenny Dryden just passed away? We had Kenny Dryden.
It's a great conversation and you and Alvarez, could you
(35:28):
can go back and forth, just ripping the media right
in front of him.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Well, let me tell you it's real simple. You know
what I don't even want Berrero and Mason. I want
Mason and Brero bumper or bumper.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yes, yeah, if you're if you're first on the billing.
Is that what you're saying? All right, Guardsian, I don't think
this is going the way I hoped it would. I
thought he'd love that. Well, he said, maybe I'll just
book Bury myself and then we'll take a half hour
out of Mason's time next week and talk to him.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Good luck.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It's unbelievable. Uh, let's get also to Okay, you've you've
given us sort of the Mason manifesto as it pertains
to you know when to get on the field, when
to storman when not to. I agree with you totally
on that. But let's talk about the game itself.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I thought from a Gopher standpoint, it was as thorough
and complete a performance in terms of coaching and in
terms of execution as I've seen in a long time.
What did you make of it?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I thought it was one team that was very well prepared,
ready to play and played well, and I saw another
team that was not well prepared, didn't play well, totally
out coached.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
And I think it was a case like.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
A boxer going in the ring and he he's one
hundred percent confident he is going to destroy this guy.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
And in round one.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
He gets busted in the nose and he thought, oh,
I'm into a fight. You know what, It's too late then,
I mean, you have got to be prepared each and
every week. Now you see sometimes Dan that a team
that is really really talented, which Nebraska is not.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I think their quarterback grossly overrated.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I think whoever, I don't know how many stars he
had ninety two stars coming out of high school.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
No, I don't. I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Not just.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Left hand.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
No, it's great. You can't pass with his right when
he's right handed.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So but my point being, sometimes you have team is
really talented, they can get in that situation and they
still could overcome that that poor performance. Nebraska isn't one
of those teams. I would have the venture to say
that when you look at him and I don't know
(37:59):
this is this I'm not really qualified, I'd say probably
talent wise, you could argue that Nebraska and Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Are kind of equal. You know, this position a little
better there, the other position a little bit better here.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
One was twenty fifth in the country one's not ranked.
Boom one's ready to play. The endsn't ready to play.
The outcome is twenty four to six. Now, the reason
I say that could anybody see.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Because we talked about it last week.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
See the Gophers running rushing for one hundred and eighty
six yards, I mean, going into this game each and
every week, they've thrown the ball pretty daring if they
could pass protect, you know, boom, but they haven't been
able to run the football.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
And how many sacks do they have? Nine?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh? Was it at the half? Wasn't my five or
six at the half?
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:50):
They approach double?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Does that offensive line coach don't have a job.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's the quarterback's uncle, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Well, I mean yeah, they were a packaged deal, you know,
and it was a.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Bad enough of those packages I mentioned.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I'm now I'm probably bragging a little bit, but I
bet there's I bet there's some years we didn't have
nine sacks.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Of our season and nine Well, did you did you
hear what guards he told me yesterday that Matt rule,
said admitted during the week after the game, no Matt rule.
And he apparently said, I know this is crazy because
we haven't done anything but we were cocky. We we
(39:29):
went in complacent to that game. How is that possible
when you've accomplished as little as Nebraska has. I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
That's the problem right there.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
And I saw, I did see where the quarterback said,
we thought we were going to put on a show. Yeah,
you forgot you had to play a game, you know,
And that's right. I mean, I think for whatever reason,
I don't know, I don't know what they were looking at,
because when I've seen the bits and pieces I'm playing, I.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Haven't been impressed up and down.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
How about this? I was on uh Nebraska radio, were
you Oh?
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah? These opponents they.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
So they like cleaning up to the game.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, they called me, you know, like and you like
you want me to like they call me. They don't
get Pat Matt Ruhle to call me. They call me
because they deal up the relationship.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Like you guys should have had a relationship with Barry
al other coaches.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Okay, in fact, I should. He was the coach for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I don't even you've been doing with your long story
so anyway, but they want to having Barry Alberaz on
the show next week. We'll get it done.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Good. And so to make a long story, should they
were talking in this here.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I was trying to the opportune to say, hey, I
can show you how much power I have, and he
takes it the other way and tries to insult me.
But go ahead.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
But the radio guys they were saying, how improved the
biggest improvement their team? They weren't talking about the quarterack, Yeah,
were the offensive defensive lines.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
And to me that's that.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Was where they had really chance humiliated. Yeah, I yeah,
it was the whole the whole thing is for a
program that again, well this is a good example the Gophers.
Gophers are an Iowa this week. Again, I thought that
was as complete a game as the Gophers are played
a long time, terrific performance. But you know how this works,
(41:23):
You got to sustain it, and that I'd say that
Nebraska said to Minnesota the proof is can you can
you build on what that victory seemed to indicate that
maybe you're figuring some stuff out and you're getting better.
That's what separates the good teams from the teams that
are just up and down. Right, you have to follow
through and follow up on.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, And I think the way that you follow through
is that a game like that has to help your attitude?
It should you believe, you really buy in? You know,
you think the coaches really know what they're talking about.
You and I talk while fair about your alma mater, Indiana.
You know the greatest story about Indiana, let me tell you,
(42:02):
as great a year as Indianas have, and it's not
because they got better players than everybody.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Yeah, they got good players, and you might say, well,
who's better than that quarterback?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
But by and large they don't have the same players
that Ohio State has or Alabama or you know, some
of those other people. But what Signetti has done, he's
got them playing better as a team. And you've heard
me so many times before because I really believe that
that football is the greatest team game that has ever
(42:33):
been invented. And if you can get a group of
guys to play better together as a team, then the
other group of people that you're playing, even though they
have more talent, you can be successful. And I really
believe that's where they're at.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Can you help us get Signetti on next week too?
Speaker 4 (42:51):
I really don't know Kurtz. Signetta doesn't matter. I know
his dad, but he's not your name.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Your name is supposed to open doors.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
I'm lucky to open the door getting here.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Look at what we're doing. I mean, we're promoting your shirt.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
We're not I'm not getting anthing know with the shirt.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
But I'm not either real. But we're still doing it
on the goodness of our hearts. When I wrote for
a little generosity from you, when we.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Write my book, we can promote it.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Okay, that's fair. Listen to this. This is from trail
ref guy Iowa will win and cover the eight and
a half. Write that down. We'll see, Well, maybe they won't.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Hey, talk is cheap.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Talk is cheap?
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Is he putting a little cash on it?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Or I don't know?
Speaker 4 (43:32):
He's true.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I think he's from I'm pretty sure he's from He's
from keiakok Iowa. Just let me this.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
The psychology of sports though, okay, yes, is that when
you look at really the performance of both teams Okay
Iowa and Minison, as they get ready to play each other,
and they look at the most previous case, they're not
overlooking anything.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
No, that's true, you know what I mean. Give an example.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Let's say if the if the outcome would have been different,
Nebraska would have scored twenty four and Minnesota was scored six.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
They got sacked nine. To all that stuff. The Hawk
guys might be sitting down there saying, we got this one.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, well based on that last performance, I gain kirk Farns.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
He's got him in there.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
They're they're probably in there early every day watching film.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Guards you. I'm getting fired up bout this game. Can
you get Mason and I a couple of tickets? You
want to drive to Iowa City to see the game, so.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I could get the tickets.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I don't exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
I don't need it, that's the thing. But for me though,
not for you guys.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Very galous. All right, the top of our break. Let's
let's break here and then we'll catch up. We got
a lot a lot of text are kind of a
lot of bitterness.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
How's the food in the fresh box?
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Guardsy, Iowa City? Very solidary? I know it, very solid.
I think historically back in the day Memorial Stadium, Indiana
food was among the worst. Back I'm talking about when
I was writing, Yeah, back in the my newspaper, like hot.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Cold hot dogs. When I was Big ten network. Yeah, Okay,
my experience in the big ten. The worst run operations
in the Big ten bar none, not even close. Were
Indiana and Northwest. Really, I'm telling you they were terrible.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
You're saying not just food, You're just saying the whole
media operation, the whole deal.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
But you know how you stood Indiana? What's that you
have to outsmart him? What do you do anything? But
right out the TV box? Okay? Was the President's lounge
well stocked? Okay?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Did you just walk in there?
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
That's that's kind of and.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Jack and they thought I was somebody.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
They thought I was a trustee.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
All right, dropping the hour break more Mason, your hey.
So we returned
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
That is a nice package. I liked that package. Basis
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It is a midweek that means Wednesday edition of the
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the Twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul guards He
produces the show. I am the host of the program
form Ringstein Retch newspaper of the Twin Cities. My name
is Dan Barrero. We were delighted that you were along
for what is kind of a truncated ride. Today. We've
got Minnesota while to hockey to get to East coast.
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I think we're playing Joisey tonight, correct, yes, And we
also have some vikings programming to wedge in ahead of that,
so that means we're done at five point thirty. Once
upon a time, this was a two and a half
hour show. That's what I've heard. When the Chad Barrero
divorce took place. That's where it worked, right. Chad was
two to about four forty seven and I started about
(01:30):
four fifty till seven o'clock. Well, that's the way it
went some of the time. But it's hard to get
everything in into and a half. You're going to find
that out time. May well find that out. Today I
might be begging for us to pre empt the Vikings
programming and maybe even the first period of a Minnesota
Wild hockey. We do have I think a very eclectic, controversial,
(01:55):
and I hope entertaining program for you between now and
the aforementioned thirty This evening, Bratshawn Brian Cafe in text
Line is open at six four six, eight six. This
is of course opening night for your Minnesota Timberwolves, who
will take on the Portland Trailblazers in Portland, Oregon, where
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once upon a time the big redhead Bill Walton dominated long, long,
long time ago. Johnny Athletic just landed he will file
a live report from Portland scheduled I believe for is
it four to thirty tonight? You got it four thirty
this evening. Mace in your face in studio at the
bottom of this hour. We had to obviously move some
(02:39):
schedules around, so Mace three point thirty and Johnny Athletic
at four thirty. Interesting news that Johnny has now confirmed
who is the original source? Chris Haynes. Chris Haynes noted
that his sources told him that Dante DiVincenzo will be
(03:00):
starting as at point guard tonight, with Mike Conley still
expected to not only participate, but to have a key
row with this team coming off the bench. I had
not had any inkling that this was even being discussed.
There had been so much during training camp of Conley
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still an important part of this. We talked to Conley.
I don't think he may have known a lot already
then and not said I don't know. Hopefully we'll find
out from Johnny how long this has been percolating, what
this exactly means, and what we should make of this
particular news. I'll add this to it that I missed
on the project yesterday. Your guy Finchy was on with
(03:47):
Paul Allen yesterday. Did you read this quote? I think
we will maybe expect him Anthony Edwards to play on
the ball a little bit more. Yeah, I think we'll
try to play him as the lead guard more and more,
and I will tell you I don't love it. I
(04:11):
first of all, I don't know how much more lead
guard Anthony Edwards could play. I mean, he essentially a
lot of the time did have the ball in his hands.
And what's funny about it is what we'd been kind
of told to training camp was, well, some of this
is trying to get him to move better without the ball,
to cut better without the ball, knowing that he may
(04:34):
initiate the offense the ball is going to be back
in his hands as well. All this tells me these
two moves and they may work out. We'll see. Even
though neither of these players is a point guard, as
far as I'm concerned, sorry that even in the new
and advanced NBA, I don't think either one of them
has natural inclination to make teammates better. I don't. In fact,
(04:56):
I think you take away from what they do best.
But what it does this not tell us that they're
just not gonna throw Dialingham in the deep end, that
they have not seen enough through training camp to say
all right, yeah, from the start of the season, he's
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gonna be Conley's going to start and he's going to
be the backup guard and by the end of games,
he might end up playing at the end of games
more than Conley. This tells me that they don't trust
Dillingham yet. I'm not saying they should, but I'm saying
this is to me, these two that quote and this
can call it an announcement, but this reporting indicates to
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me there's just not much belief in him right now.
Now that can change. How can he change it? Play well?
Play well in the stretches that he gets. But Johnny
had mentioned in confirming the story that before the Vincenzo
was hurt, he played very well in this role. He
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might be right. I will still tell you my own
I mean, just watching and in my own shall we
say reporting, in talking to people I trust around the league,
I don't think that's the greatest natural fit for him.
I just don't. I think he's better off, maybe even
(06:28):
more than Anthony Edwards bouncing around, playing off the ball,
taking shots, et cetera. Now the league, I understand the
purity at the point, you could say Mike Conley represented
the last of the pure point guards. It's a different
era today. We all understand now most of point the
point guards are scoring point guards. But I still think
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I'm just not convinced there's great there's a great sensibility
in either case. So we'll see how this goes. And
we may be getting too hung up on who starts
the game again. Yeah, but so if part of the
method to it is we are adamant about lowering the
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number of lessening the number of minutes that Conley plays,
this is part of the way and we're going to
stick to that because he is older and we do
want to get the best out of him, and it's
hard to keep the minutes as low, perhaps sometimes as
we want if he starts the game, especially if he's
going to finish the game too.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
This may be part of the reason they're going this route,
but it's an interesting move and an interesting decision. And
we've said all along that this year is about really
what a series of tweaks, little things that might make
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to help them take that last step. There's not going
to be anything sizable, because there's certainly nothing sizable. You know,
last year we had the big trade red before the deadline,
I should say, right before training camp. We had to
go beart trade a couple of years before that, major
personnel shifts that were either going to make them better
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or make them worse. This time around, it's really not
that much about the personnel. Nikkeel is a nice player,
but he's not on the same level as some of
these other players that have come and gone. So it's
more about shaping, editing, tweaking, perfecting around the edges. Is
it not to find out how this team can maintain
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and then even perhaps take that last step. We've also
heard during training camp that they really want to lean
into playing faster right. Yes, that's true, and Dante DiVincenzo
would represent that. What's interesting about this to me is
I feel like DiVincenzo is a better coming off the
bench spark plug six man than Mike Conley is. I
agree if you're looking for a change up or a
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mix up. So I'm curious to see how this looks.
I'm curios to see who comes off the bench first
in that spot. What are they going to do with Shannon?
What are they going to do with Clark? I know
they're not point guards, but they're gonna have the ball.
Shannon certainly will, so I'm Evincenzo's a scorer. I'm sorry,
and not always a great one. I mean, he was
up and down last year. For sure. I think he
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I think they got to have I felt all along
a better version of him, a more consistent version than
a year ago. And the assumption is well Randall eventually
kind of found his place right and maybe now with
the extra year the chance to relax been here since
the started training camp, get more out of him as well,
But that will be one of the open questions.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Maybe the plan is for Conley to come in with
a would be scorer. At the same time, I don't
know where he still can be what he is, but
I still I just viewed the Vincenzo and again I
will say he if I'm evaluating him over the course
of the entire season last year, he disappointed me a
little bit. I thought we would get more out of
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him than we did. In fact, if you're a call
to me, he was the key to the trade and
the word on the street was the Wolves weren't going
to do it until the Knicks were willing to include
the Evincenzo. And I thought we saw stretches of him
where I was pleased and other stretches were going uh
a little more because one of the raps I had
heard out of New York, even from people who liked
him there was he's, you know, he's a little up
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and down, very streaky shooting. He's very streaky, and he's
even just even his entire approach. So we'll see how
that goes. But little intrigue right to start the twenty
twenty five to twenty sixth season, because you know the
fact that this is being raised or reported the day
of their opener indicates to a certain extent that the
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Wolves were not all that interested in making much of
a production about it, right, any kind of major announcement
about it. But they obviously think there's a reason that
led them down this particular road. So we'll see how
out goes and where, you know, what other information we
can get from Johnny. And also how's Anthony Edwards back
because he was on the injury report asted is questionable
yesterday backspasm, backspasms? Is anything changed? I mean the report
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is the report. He was at shoot around today that
was open. I hope he doesn't call JJ McCarthy for
an opinion. He was open, should play the practice part
that was open to the media. He was shooting around
with Randalls. So he was out there this morning. It's
not like he had to lay in bed all morning. Yeah,
but he's not in traction. Doesn't seem like as far
as we know, doesn't seem like it is ready. Yeah,
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Is it too late, guardsy for us to implement the
triangle offense? You mean for the Timberwolves. It's the Timberwolves.
This's too late, you think for us to do that.
I mean the season starts tonight. Well, yeah, the most
complicated basketball offense ever created, right that it's it's it's
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Rubik's cube like, so I'm guessing it would take more
than a minute, yeah, or two to implement it. Yeah,
but I don't know. I just see what Johnny says.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
But I.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We've heard with Anthony the Jordan comparison. Not to say
he's on there his level or Kobe, but the idea was, well,
how can he learn from those two players about other
ways to score? Right, easier ways to score, so everything's
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not so complicated. And what I remember again is that
meant the ball not constantly being in their hands. Now, ultimately,
when the shot clocks at eight, they got it. They
got the ball. We get that same should apply to
Anthony Edwards, But there were other people who brought the
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ball up, other people who initiated the offense. And I
still think that's expecting too much of him. I do.
I think it's gonna make it harder for him. I
think to learn those other things. We'll see now that
may there may be some method of the madness. And again,
we all understand that Conley is long longer in the
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tooth and realistically that role was going to have to
be shared, probably more than ever because of his age
in terms of how many minutes he's played, et cetera.
But the problem is not necessarily I'm not trying to
just defend Conley. I'm trying to defend what Conley represents.
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And my point is, well, if not him, then a
maybe younger, perhaps a little bit more athletic version of
him that's still needed in this thing, I think, don't you.
I really do think that's part of the solution here.
And in a perfect world, that's what Dillingham represented right
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at the front end. That was the idea. Yeah, he's
the guy in waiting who is obviously more athletic, but
what you know, it was hard to know, well, how
good is he actually running something? And is he too little?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Is he too slight? I think there's still that feeling
that he's awfully slight and that hurts defensive defensive more
than offensively. I'm interested to see how it actually plays out. Yeah,
because I am a throwback point guard guy like you are,
we still play Ricky Rubio sound bites. There's a reason
why we do that. We'll still never know how good
the Wolves might have been if he'd stayed healthy twenty
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and twenty on that Friday. Nay, we'll always remember it.
It's one of the great What is I think Kobe
did it on purpose? Do you think he was afraid?
I do he probably? They just they just knocked knees correct, Yes, yeah, yeah,
don't forget nothing. Everything changed after that for Rubio. Everything
like Randall's a guy that can bring the ball up.
But they have guys. Yeah, they're going to be I
think more unconventional in terms of not having just the throwback,
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throwback point guard. So but all the analytics did they
not set it for key stretches we played on the floor?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Him, I should say the team was better when he
was on the floor. For whatever the reason. Their offensive
efficiency was way up. I think even their defense was better,
which people wouldn't necessarily think. I'm also curious about because
last year the bit with him was he always talked
about his first shift, and they would always say, you
got to go out there in your first six minute shift,
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because that's what they did, right, They ran him out
there for five or six minutes, and we need more
from you in that first shift. So now are they
reversing it? Because what are his shifts going to look like?
First of all, we don't even know that. But are
they saying, when you get out there, you do have
to be Well, you can't ease in. You ease in
while watching the first handful of minutes, however, you're out
and then when you get out there go and then
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when you're done, you're done, and we're putting you back
out here on ice. I don't know, it'll be interesting
to see because well, there's not like Dante off the
bench better so I always had because I think he's
better than most bench players and second teamers and all
of that. It was like having another starter level player
off your bench. That's I think part of what was
the appeal of the d Yes was and now Conley
has to be that exactly and and and now again
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there's no law you can you can you can throw
out some ideas, try some things. Uh, doesn't mean you're
going to lose him. Conley is not. He's an adult.
He's not going to react that way. So we'll see.
I mean, it's a given, is it not? The first
wing scorer off the bench. Well, I guess it's how
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he depends on how you classify if you classified Nasrit
as a wing scorer or a front court guy, it's
going to be Shannon. Correct, Shannon is going to have
probably major he's going to have He's the guy who's
going to benefit the most from a minute standpoint with
Nikiel being gone. Yeah, it has to be correct, I
believe so. Yeah, I would think so. He was the
guy that got run in the postseason last year when
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they started to tweak things a little bit, at least
in the Oklahoma City Series. You know what, I think.
I'm reminded we did try did Rambus not try the
triangle a little bit? A little bit? He did it.
He did it, and it didn't work for us, did it?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Which you know, the the open joke in basketball was, Yeah,
the triangle is great if you happen to have Michael
Jordan or Kobe Bryant to run it, but we have
Anthony Edwards. Now that's what they're supposed to be. Yeah,
I mean, he's watching film of those guys. He's trying
to be those guys. He's learning post tricks from MJ
who was brilliant last night at NBC. I've watched his
clips like fifty times. Well again, I was asking whether
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they're going to be able to reveal some of Mike
without overexposing him, and I thought they played it perfectly.
They It wasn't like they covered everything. No, And then
they mentioned, oh guess what next week we're gonna ask
Mike about load management. Oh yeah, that's the way to
do it. Just drips and just one or two items
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every once in a while is definitely the way to
do it. I thought that was very a very successful
opening salvo in you know, making Jordan part of the coverage.
You saw the Ryder Cup free throw things?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yes, do you believe it? Of course I do. I
mean Michael doesn't need to make anything else. I sold
it well. But even Michael probably has to know, well,
I got it. This is a dramatic moment. I got
to give him something big. It's hard to believe that
Michael Jordan would be nervous about anything, but especially because
let me ask you this, would we have heard the
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story if he had missed the free throw? I told
the story. He may have No, Actually, you're you're right,
he wouldn't. He wouldn't have brought it up. He would
have gone to some place selves And good job by Tarico,
because sometimes you can lose yourself. In Michael Jordan's eyes,
one hundred percent good job asking the obvious follow up,
did you make the freeze? Yes? Did you switch it?
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And Jordan absolutely yeah. It was hair stood up on
the back of my neck when I didn't make it
through the second game. But I did watch the first
game highly entertaining and went on too longeph double ot.
It was a double ote f Yes, it was, but
a nice game very night. I mean, that's a really
good way. You can't if you're NBC or any network,
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you can't. You can't, you know, hope and pray for
a better opener than that, right the Laker teams, Yeah,
going hammer and tong neck and neck down through two ots,
and the Lakers made it interesting at the end of
their game against Golden State, they didn't end up winning.
Luca was ridiculous. Here's my problem with Luca already, I
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think he's already gaining weight. I think I think City
Luca is already starting to put the pounds in bet Now,
I'm not saying he looked like he did a year ago,
but he didn't look like he did in all those
videos we saw interesting those were doctored. They could just
wondering they could have been. He had like forty a
million assists. Buckets and Curry were both very good. Well
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didn't they didn't Buckets go like fifteen for fifteen from
the free throw line like that? Yeah? Yeah. Did you
hear about what he said about his bet? No with
with Curry. No, the season and I don't know what
they what the winner gets, but the bet had to
do with which basically Bucket said, by the end of
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the season, I will finish with a higher free throw
percentage than you will. And I think Steph Curry is
one of the all time leaders in that. Yeah, he's
over his career. Yeah, yeah, interesting. So I don't know
what the bet is, but I thought that was kind
of interesting. Good luck to him. Hope you guys stay healthy.
A lot of other games. Tonight Nick's and Cavaliers tonight.
That's a nice, nice ballgame. No, did you hear about
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the new cat controversy. No, there's a new cat controversy
and it's pretty juicy. All right, let's do this, let's
stay on schedule. We've got Johnny with all kinds of
NBA speculation and his reaction to the apparent news that
Dante de Vincenzo will start at point guard in place
of Mike Conley tonight, not due to injury, but by
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coach's decision. So is this long term? Is this an experiment?
What does he make of it? What are the ramifications
regarding the bench, et cetera. All of that with Johnny
from Portland in about an hour. Mace in your face.
You got college football questions, you got pro football questions,
whatever the case may be. Hit the Bradshawn Bryant caffe
and text line. That's six four six eight.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
San, It's time for another edition of Mace in your
face now along with college Football Immortality, Glenn Mason.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Here's Dan Burrero. Mace is in my face in studio
here for the second consecutive week. Welcome back, and you
better be nice because I'm gonna be here ready, are you?
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Next week too?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
You know what before?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Can I before you get going, huh, Mace in your face? Yes,
you guys? Well, I never get anything. I don't get
a glass of water from your guys. I got a
present for you today, do you seriously?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I'm telling you?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Well, look at this.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Check this out? Hot off the.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Press in your face. It's you. You got like a
little microphone deal.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Here. I don't know if I'm coaching up or whatever,
but anyway, I stopped in Loose Lime Brewery.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Ever been in there?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
No, My good friend Peter Lambert runs the place. It's
a great, great place up there in Plymouth. But anyway, uh, hey, you.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Get the headset gone. Guards, are you supposed to be
a coach?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Here?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
A broadcast whatever? He needs to be guardian. I'm gonna
have you look at the at the at the drawing.
Does this not look like ship Hartman? No, I think
it looks a like shit. I was gonna say it
looks like Jerry Kill and the Wikipedia.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, anyway, guards, it is your buddies, the soda stick guys.
And they did this junction because you know what base
they got that what do you cut trademark?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You don't have that copyrighted yet? You bet I do?
Did you get?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I did that so in conjunction with him. Yeah, they
did that.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And you know they're all Minnesota and one of us
as you would say all the time. But anyway, they
did those shirts and hot off the press and uh,
you know, walking in I was having the shirt the
guys stopping lies. What do you got there, coach?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I showed him.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He goes, I want that, I said, not for sale.
I got to give it to my buddies. I want
to buy it. Well, so that's how I told him.
I looked up and you know, you gotta what do
you get? You go to a soda stick dot com.
You can get it there, so.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You can set you can buy it there. Percentage do
you get none? I don't believe No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Believe you very cheribed.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I like you charitable zero fac can figure it out.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
So anyway, So.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
There's a Mason your faceline.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
How's that?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I love it. It's officially there, so if people go
to that site they can purchase the shirt.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
That's exactly right outstanding. Yeah, it's about time. It's for
a good clause. And they're in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Well, you know whatever. And the thing about it for
all you people out.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
There, you know, if you really want to take off
my good friend Danny.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Barrero, you don't have any glasses on either, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Get him in there and wear and wear him at
the fair next year. That would be good.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I wouldn't be offended by that at all. Yeah, so
your face this is this is quite a coordinated effort. Mace.
I gotta say, I'm gonna start calling you side deal.
Glenn Soda Stick is already tweeted about it. He's getting
something out of it. I just down get the official
Mace in your face shirt. There it is, it's right there.
I just retweeted it. I mean you you you were
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like to the last penny when you were here as
coach negotiating their nextra buck here an extra perk there.
You never stopped. You're getting something.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Out of this. I'm getting nothing.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
We need to get you the best by deal so
you can get that TV back. That's what that's next.
We need to get that TV is anyway, I I
wish we could.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You know. It really ticked me off about that whole
deal's brought up the sorry no no, what I got
shown the door?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes, I remember it. Maybe I told you go ahead.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I wanted to keep my cell phone number.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I tell you this, yeah you did, but go ahead.
I wanted to keep myself because you know, it was
a university phone.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
You can't do whatever, but you can take the number
and would you Well, initially they said yes, and then
one of the people, not not mister Maturia, but somebody
else came and said, we decided not to do it. Decided,
they made it clear they could have you laterally, they decided.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's not because they were concerned that if I kept
that number, that down the road, if I got something
involved in something illegal, it may come back to say
that I was using a university phone number. Have you
ever had your hand with Clem Haskins anything ridiculously you law?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
That's that's well, that's insulting.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
It was insulting.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, I don't blame you for me. It was insulting.
There's two things somewhere, you know, in the catacombs, the
University of Minnesota, somewhere I don't with Williams Arena, the stadium,
whatever that I'm looking for that I still want. I
want to see. I want to know where your TV went,
and I want to know where the final four going
to go for men's basketball banner is hidden. Those are
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two things probably in the same man. What if they're
in the same they might be in the same spot.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
When I started thinking, which I think we talked last
week about James Franklin yesspire, and I saw him he
was on.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I didn't see when he was on, but I saw
that Clay was in game day and he was.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Talking about they practice Sundays and they always have a
team meeting at one for five, and at one the
AD walked in and dismissed him and how And I
was thinking to myself, how terrible that is? And then
I started thinking, at least the guy did it to
his face. He didn't call him on the telephone and
let him go.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
When did that happen?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
You can figure it out.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Don't be what I'm saying is I mean at least
the face to face. You're saying face to face like
a man? Yeah, right there, ill eyebull. He came in
And what's the guy's name?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Here's the pas.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
What's the AD's name?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I don't have pat something.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Here's the graduate. You know his name?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I don't know his name. He's a he's are It
was tough to get through your guarded, your gated. That's
what I was going to say. If if Mother Materia
has shown up at your door, you wouldn't let him in.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You would have it?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Would you have?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Would you have ushered him into the Churchill room. Yeah,
or very.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Least he said, can you I mean I lived ten
minutes from there. He could have said can you come
down and need to talk. I could have gotten my
card down there.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Have you ever like raised that with him?
Speaker 4 (28:40):
No, I wasn't talking about me.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I was talking about I think it was unfair that
James Franklin was complaining that the guide.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
When you're saying it could be worse, it could be
worse and you and for you, it was that's what
you're saying a little bit. Well, this is nice that
it's a nice little dude.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
It is. I got one for guards. He too.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's perfect. So do we have Are we gonna link
it or is that illegal for us to link it
via cafe? I mean nobody's going there, so just retweet it.
I'll retweet it. Retweet it. That's the easiest that there
won't be a problem. You dontweeted it. We're here to help.
I'll help you with your side hustle.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I don't have a side hustle. I really do.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Once it, once it goes, I don't if anybody thinks
that that I'm trying to hawk something to make money
I am not write it down.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Are you sure?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I'm positive.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I'm pretty sure you got some free tacos from that
taco place in Fargo. Not yet?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Not yet.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Let me ask you something that's different, that's very, very different.
What give me the Glenn Mason if Glenn Mason published
online or wherever? A rules of storming the field? Oh yeah,
what would be the mace in your face? Rules are required?
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What well do you think should fans abide by? What
are there, you know, limits to how often and who
you beat in terms of the decision to storm the field?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Now, that's a simple question. To complicate it. First of all,
I for a long time, even when I was coach,
I used to bring up the commissioner.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Of Jim Delaney.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yes, why in college football we let fans storm the
field from a security standpoint at a different day and
age right danger? And it brought up I don't know
if you remember this or not, but Miami of Ohio
was playing Marshall. I think it was Marshall this years
and years ago, and Marshall was really good playing at
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Marshall and Miami of Ohio, as I remember, won the game,
and maybe Marshall won the game Marshall won the game
and they went on the field whenever, and some things
were said, maybe I don't know if the person was
in toime to one of the players and maybe touch
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play and the player decked the guy and it became
a major issue. But all the problems that we have,
and all I can tell you is do you ever
see anybody in NFL games any place go on the field?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
No, you know, I to go on the field and
go to jail, and it's because of security. So I
really think in this day and age, there ought to
be a rule.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Now that you know the SEC they've put these rules in.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yes, if you storm the field a grand or you know,
whatever it may be.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
But I know where you're going this.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You want to say, because the Gopher faithful storm the
field last week when they beaten the Bread I think
it's great they beat Nebraska.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Do I think that warranted storm the field.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
No.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I don't think it was any big deal.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
And I would really think that where Pj's got this
program right now that the fans and everybody, you win
the game say well, okay we beat Nebraska, they ain't
any big deal.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Now if they don't have a rule against it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
If you beat the number one team in the country,
Oh okay, well that's different. If you win the Big
Tank Conference, boom, that's a different story.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
But to beat Nebraska, I mean, come on, and they
might have been running twenty fifth.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
If they're the twenty fifth best team in the country,
I'll eat your.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Hat if you got one.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That was well. The other thing, which Guardian I talked about,
and I think you brought up too off air, is
the points spread for that game too. Was you look
back on it? It was absurd and a half nine and.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
A half or seven. And if we talked about it
last week, you know, I don't know. I think the
fix was in. I don't know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Gonna tell you. We're not even getting there yet.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I think the points spread this week down against Iowa,
it's ridiculous, totally eight and a half points.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
And are you I mean you know now wait a minute, now.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I know Iowa had a big offensive production against Wisconsin.
Really a bad football but typically year and in year,
weekend and week out for a long time. Now, they're
good in the kicking game, they're good on defense, and man,
they leave a lot of desire and even when you
look now they don't throw the ball very well.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You know what I just thought of what it's guardsy.
Don't you think it's time? You know, Mace prides himself on,
certainly when he was a coach, doing what challenging his
players right, trying to get the best out of them.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Job.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
As good as you thought you played last week, you
got another level you can go to. I think it's
time we challenge you the same way historically we've challenged
Louis in that you mentioned Wisconsin, and every time you
mentioned Wisconsin, like like by association, the first thing that
(33:54):
comes in my head is Barry Alvarez. So what you
should be doing for this show, for this segment is
every once in a while, maybe once a month, maybe
maybe more. If you get into it, you help us
get a big name from college football like Barry Alvarez
(34:14):
to come on the show at the same time you're on.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
That's his job in there that Louis Louis got us
several legends Scotty's Bullman included, that's his Joe.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I can barely get Glenn here, but you're the but
you're the conduit. Barry Alvarez is not going to pay
you come to the phone if we call him, if
you want me up, you're a favor of you make
you look good.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
No it this is your show.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
This ain't my show. It makes you look great and generous.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
This is on your face, this is your well, you're
selling shirts.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You changed this show.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
To Bumper and Butter Barrell and Mason, then you might
I'll have a guy on every week.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Get Mace in your face. It's so Mace, isn't it. Honestly,
I think you need another shirt for the size your ego.
That would be the other one. Although I don't know
if this shirt's big enough. I don't THINKY make him
big enough at this point, so I'm taking that as
a no.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I think it'd be.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Here's what we're emitting. We don't have your reach. Yes,
So the idea is the way Louis selflessly said, it'd
be good radio to have Louis on together. Who is
the Kenny Dryden just passed away? We had Kenny Dryden.
It's a great conversation and you and Alvarez, could you
(35:28):
can go back and forth, just ripping the media right
in front of him.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Well, let me tell you it's real simple. You know
what I don't even want Berrero and Mason. I want
Mason and Brero bumper or bumper.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yes, yeah, if you're if you're first on the billing.
Is that what you're saying? All right, Guardsian, I don't think
this is going the way I hoped it would. I
thought he'd love that. Well, he said, maybe I'll just
book Bury myself and then we'll take a half hour
out of Mason's time next week and talk to him.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Good luck.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It's unbelievable. Uh, let's get also to Okay, you've you've
given us sort of the Mason manifesto as it pertains
to you know when to get on the field, when
to storman when not to. I agree with you totally
on that. But let's talk about the game itself.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I thought from a Gopher standpoint, it was as thorough
and complete a performance in terms of coaching and in
terms of execution as I've seen in a long time.
What did you make of it?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I thought it was one team that was very well prepared,
ready to play and played well, and I saw another
team that was not well prepared, didn't play well, totally
out coached.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
And I think it was a case like.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
A boxer going in the ring and he he's one
hundred percent confident he is going to destroy this guy.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
And in round one.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
He gets busted in the nose and he thought, oh,
I'm into a fight. You know what, It's too late then,
I mean, you have got to be prepared each and
every week. Now you see sometimes Dan that a team
that is really really talented, which Nebraska is not.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I think their quarterback grossly overrated.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I think whoever, I don't know how many stars he
had ninety two stars coming out of high school.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
No, I don't. I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Not just.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Left hand.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
No, it's great. You can't pass with his right when
he's right handed.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So but my point being, sometimes you have team is
really talented, they can get in that situation and they
still could overcome that that poor performance. Nebraska isn't one
of those teams. I would have the venture to say
that when you look at him and I don't know
(37:59):
this is this I'm not really qualified, I'd say probably
talent wise, you could argue that Nebraska and Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Are kind of equal. You know, this position a little
better there, the other position a little bit better here.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
One was twenty fifth in the country one's not ranked.
Boom one's ready to play. The endsn't ready to play.
The outcome is twenty four to six. Now, the reason
I say that could anybody see.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Because we talked about it last week.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
See the Gophers running rushing for one hundred and eighty
six yards, I mean, going into this game each and
every week, they've thrown the ball pretty daring if they
could pass protect, you know, boom, but they haven't been
able to run the football.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
And how many sacks do they have? Nine?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh? Was it at the half? Wasn't my five or
six at the half?
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:50):
They approach double?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Does that offensive line coach don't have a job.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's the quarterback's uncle, you know.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Well, I mean yeah, they were a packaged deal, you know,
and it was a.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Bad enough of those packages I mentioned.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I'm now I'm probably bragging a little bit, but I
bet there's I bet there's some years we didn't have
nine sacks.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Of our season and nine Well, did you did you
hear what guards he told me yesterday that Matt rule,
said admitted during the week after the game, no Matt rule.
And he apparently said, I know this is crazy because
we haven't done anything but we were cocky. We we
(39:29):
went in complacent to that game. How is that possible
when you've accomplished as little as Nebraska has. I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
That's the problem right there.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
And I saw, I did see where the quarterback said,
we thought we were going to put on a show. Yeah,
you forgot you had to play a game, you know,
And that's right. I mean, I think for whatever reason,
I don't know, I don't know what they were looking at,
because when I've seen the bits and pieces I'm playing, I.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Haven't been impressed up and down.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
How about this? I was on uh Nebraska radio, were
you Oh?
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah? These opponents they.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
So they like cleaning up to the game.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, they called me, you know, like and you like
you want me to like they call me. They don't
get Pat Matt Ruhle to call me. They call me
because they deal up the relationship.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Like you guys should have had a relationship with Barry
al other coaches.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Okay, in fact, I should. He was the coach for
a long time.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
I don't even you've been doing with your long story
so anyway, but they want to having Barry Alberaz on
the show next week. We'll get it done.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Good. And so to make a long story, should they
were talking in this here.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I was trying to the opportune to say, hey, I
can show you how much power I have, and he
takes it the other way and tries to insult me.
But go ahead.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
But the radio guys they were saying, how improved the
biggest improvement their team? They weren't talking about the quarterack, Yeah,
were the offensive defensive lines.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
And to me that's that.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Was where they had really chance humiliated. Yeah, I yeah,
it was the whole the whole thing is for a
program that again, well this is a good example the Gophers.
Gophers are an Iowa this week. Again, I thought that
was as complete a game as the Gophers are played
a long time, terrific performance. But you know how this works,
(41:23):
You got to sustain it, and that I'd say that
Nebraska said to Minnesota the proof is can you can
you build on what that victory seemed to indicate that
maybe you're figuring some stuff out and you're getting better.
That's what separates the good teams from the teams that
are just up and down. Right, you have to follow
through and follow up on.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, And I think the way that you follow through
is that a game like that has to help your attitude?
It should you believe, you really buy in? You know,
you think the coaches really know what they're talking about.
You and I talk while fair about your alma mater, Indiana.
You know the greatest story about Indiana, let me tell you,
(42:02):
as great a year as Indianas have, and it's not
because they got better players than everybody.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Yeah, they got good players, and you might say, well,
who's better than that quarterback?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
But by and large they don't have the same players
that Ohio State has or Alabama or you know, some
of those other people. But what Signetti has done, he's
got them playing better as a team. And you've heard
me so many times before because I really believe that
that football is the greatest team game that has ever
(42:33):
been invented. And if you can get a group of
guys to play better together as a team, then the
other group of people that you're playing, even though they
have more talent, you can be successful. And I really
believe that's where they're at.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Can you help us get Signetti on next week too?
Speaker 4 (42:51):
I really don't know Kurtz. Signetta doesn't matter. I know
his dad, but he's not your name.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Your name is supposed to open doors.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
I'm lucky to open the door getting here.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Look at what we're doing. I mean, we're promoting your shirt.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
We're not I'm not getting anthing know with the shirt.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
But I'm not either real. But we're still doing it
on the goodness of our hearts. When I wrote for
a little generosity from you, when we.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Write my book, we can promote it.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Okay, that's fair. Listen to this. This is from trail
ref guy Iowa will win and cover the eight and
a half. Write that down. We'll see, Well, maybe they won't.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Hey, talk is cheap.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Talk is cheap?
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Is he putting a little cash on it?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Or I don't know?
Speaker 4 (43:32):
He's true.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I think he's from I'm pretty sure he's from He's
from keiakok Iowa. Just let me this.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
The psychology of sports though, okay, yes, is that when
you look at really the performance of both teams Okay
Iowa and Minison, as they get ready to play each other,
and they look at the most previous case, they're not
overlooking anything.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
No, that's true, you know what I mean. Give an example.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Let's say if the if the outcome would have been different,
Nebraska would have scored twenty four and Minnesota was scored six.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
They got sacked nine. To all that stuff. The Hawk
guys might be sitting down there saying, we got this one.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, well based on that last performance, I gain kirk Farns.
Speaker 4 (44:18):
He's got him in there.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
They're they're probably in there early every day watching film.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
Guards you. I'm getting fired up bout this game. Can
you get Mason and I a couple of tickets? You
want to drive to Iowa City to see the game, so.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I could get the tickets.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I don't exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
I don't need it, that's the thing. But for me though,
not for you guys.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Very galous. All right, the top of our break. Let's
let's break here and then we'll catch up. We got
a lot a lot of text are kind of a
lot of bitterness.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
How's the food in the fresh box?
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Guardsy, Iowa City? Very solidary? I know it, very solid.
I think historically back in the day Memorial Stadium, Indiana
food was among the worst. Back I'm talking about when
I was writing, Yeah, back in the my newspaper, like hot.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Cold hot dogs. When I was Big ten network. Yeah, Okay,
my experience in the big ten. The worst run operations
in the Big ten bar none, not even close. Were
Indiana and Northwest. Really, I'm telling you they were terrible.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
You're saying not just food, You're just saying the whole
media operation, the whole deal.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
But you know how you stood Indiana? What's that you
have to outsmart him? What do you do anything? But
right out the TV box? Okay? Was the President's lounge
well stocked? Okay?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Did you just walk in there?
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
That's that's kind of and.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Jack and they thought I was somebody.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
They thought I was a trustee.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
All right, dropping the hour break more Mason, your hey.
So we returned
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