October 10, 2025 • 47 mins
Dan Barreiro opens the show wondering if October 10, 2003 was the day that could have changed everything: The day the Gopher Football team blew a huge lead to Michigan in the Metrodome. Dan also vents about a chicken wing incident at a local grocery store.
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Can I get a before we get started or did
you lose that one too? Before we get started, let's
all say happy birthday to Elvis Presley today, still one
of the greats. This is your Is this the day
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Program on an absolutely gorgeous Fall weekday afternoon here in
the Twin Cities of a Minneapolis and Saint Paul. I
am the host of the program. My name is Dan Barrero.
Guardie is the producer of the show, and it'll be
a very eclectic program today given that the Minneapolis Vikings
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are off this week. As most of you know, we
are in bye week now. After watching the Eagles last
night in New York, dare I say over confidence is
our only enemy when the Eagles come to town for
a high noon encounter, right, something's got to get the
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head the sure as hell not going to flex it now.
We're three and two and they've just lost two in
a row. For Mike Yo. Anyway, we're delighted that you
are along for today's ride. We're going the full distance.
That's the plan. That means till six point thirty this
very evening. And to those fans of the prediction segment,
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bit of a change today, Gerby will not be available
allegedly until four thirty Gerbschmidt not four, not three thirty,
but four to thirty today. That'll be followed up at
five by Ben Gesling, a different time for him. He's
apparently accommodating enough to move off his four thirty slot
to make it work on the predictions, and then the
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usual Lavelle with his phone adventures scheduled for five thirty
this evening. I think that's all the guests that we
have at least set up for right now. Bradshawn Brian
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If you would like to get in on the some
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of the fun, we would be delighted to hear from you.
We already are hearing from you, as is often the case,
especially as we get towards the end of the week,
get closer to a football Saturday and a football Sunday
as well. I'll ask you this question because your job
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is to pay extra close attention to college football and
to the Golden Gophers. And I'm not here to tell
you that post this momentous, calamitous occasion, that the Gophers
have been in the abyss that they have not had
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any good moments. And I may have even asked you
this question before, but I'll ask it to you again,
and I'll ask the audience again, did everything change on
the basis of what took place on this date? What
is the date? By the way, Yeah, I know where
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you're going in the year two thousand and three regarding
Golden Gopher football. Now, for the faint of heart, I
never suggest or advise people to change. Then, I prefer
you stay here. If we had a trigger warning, we
probably would issue it or play it right now. But
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we get in trouble if it's a warning sign sound
So I can just voice that and pass it along
to you. On this date in the year two thousand
and three, remember well, game that got moved to a
Friday night, as I recall, it sure did because of
baseball playoffs. Correct it sure did. Yeah, a Friday night.
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The Golden Gophers, who until that night that game had
knocked off Tulsa forty nine to ten, Mighty Troy State
forty eight to seven. Who did Alabama play that year? Ohio?
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Or is Glenn Mason would say? Ohio, Ohio forty two
to twenty. There went to Athens and got it done.
Anna Lafayette here my goodness, forty eight to fourteen at
Penn State, ranked twenty fourth at the time, beat them
twenty to fourteen at Northwestern. Actually, I don't think Penn
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State was ranked. I think the Gophers were ranked twenty
fourth at that point. At Northwestern ryan Field, we destroy
the Cats forty two to seventeen, and that sets up
one of the most highly anticipated college football games in
Golden Gopher history. We're going to host number twenty Michigan.
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We're actually ranked higher going into that game. We're ranked seventeen,
they're ranked twenty, and we go through the first half
through three quarters, go through their defense like Butter I
was covering. I want to say it was a Minnesota
wild opener, or at least a wild hockey game. I'm
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in the wild press box making my usual trips to
get popcorn during breaks, and every time I look up
on the t at the TV, University of Minnesota is
driving again, I think by through three quarters they might
have had three hundred yards rushing. They just absolutely look
like Michigan looked like the impostor. Michigan looked like us historically.
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We looked like not only the better team, but the
dominant team. And if we win that game, we go
to six and oh one, two, three, four or five
no seven and oh for Mike yo and the world
seems to be our oyster because all we have left
the rest of the year. Michigan State, although they were
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ranked Illinois, a terrible Indiana team, Wisconsin iolow is ranked twenty,
and you started thinking, like, this is different than anything
we've seen in Golden Gopher football, obviously since the national
championship days. They go back to the early sixties and
then the Bernie beermann Here this was different. We're frolicking,
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and then the fourth quarter happened. We gave up in
one quarter thirty one points. Ultimately we lose on a
late field goal thirty eight to thirty five. Now, you
can't say the team that year never that they collapsed,
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although the next week they did lose yep to Michigan
State in front of like half the crowd at the
Metro Dome. That's true, forty four to thirty eight. But
then they beat Illinois, they crushed Indiana, they beat Wisconsin
yep reslide field goal thirty seven to thirty four. We
did get pummeled at Iowa, but then we ended up
in the Sun Bowl that year. I was there for
that one too, and we finish the entire postseason ranked
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twenty fourth in the country, which again for University Missios.
But I to this day wonder whether that was the
day where everything changed that I often I guess project
how much life might have been different for Mason, for
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University of Minnesota football if they completed that destruction of
the University of Michigan on that fateful Friday night. You
were there, weren't you? I absolutely was there. I was
there and I just started working here. How crushed were you?
I was crushed because of everything that you just said.
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It felt like this was the moment. Yes, And for
somebody who grew up going to games at the Metro Dome,
I remember that as the first time for two things.
Number One, where Washington Avenue, before all the condos and
stuff were built, those used to be tailgate lots for
Vikings games. Nobody ever used those for Gopher games, very rarely, right,
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And I remember Washington Avenue being just a sea of
maroon and gold on a Friday night in downtown Minneapolis.
And then you went to the game, and it was
the first time I remember to sell out that was
all Gopher fans. That wasn't people from Wisconsin helping out
or people from Iowa helping out. It was the first
time I ever remembered a full sold out crowd with
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ninety percent Minnesota fans crowd. You're right, And as I
said flippantly, the next week, the crowd was half that
because the moment was there, and the moment passed and
the balloon got deflated. And I remember almost everything from
that week. I remember how we covered it on the fan.
I was an intern. I remember all kinds of stuff
that we were doing in terms of coverage, the Friday
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night aspect of it, and then to have them tease
you like that and basically dominate the game. They ended
with four hundred plus rushing its right. Masa always tells
a story about Lloyd Carr calling him on Monday and saying,
I don't know how we won that game. You kicked
our ass which is convenient, and but it's true they were.
They were dominant for forty five of the sixty minutes
sixty two thousand, three hundred and seventy four at the
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Dome for that game, and sixty thousand of them were Minnesota.
The next week, Michigan State here thirty eight, seven hundred
and seventy eight. It was like, that's it. Yeah, we
thought we had it. Now we don't. We're bored, We're done.
We get it the same old team. Now do you
remember what happened specifically in that court in the fateful
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fourth quarter? I remember a lot of screen passes. It began.
Michigan starts the quarter with the ball. They drive resolutely,
ten plays, touchdowns, now twenty eight to fourteen. Next drive.
Problem for the Golphers was that was the pick six drive. Aside,
Abdual Kalik yep throws a pick six, So now it's
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a touchdown. That quickly it's gone from you're in control
to it's a touchdown game. However, we did respond at
that point too quickly. Abdua Khalik fifty two yard touchdown
run right up the middle. On the next drive. You
remember it well, I do. I was in the end zone,
and I remember the Sea's partying in him just going
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straight down the other way. Do you remember what happened
sixty seconds later? I don't. Fifty two yard touchdown pass
to Braylen Edwards. Oh yeah, he's pretty good. Michigan then
gets a rushing touchdown from your guy Chris Perry, a
field goal from Garrett Revas, and now we're down three.
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It's thirty eight to thirty five. We have the ball,
and I don't remember how many yards this one was.
Somebody will tell us Dan what a soda might Abdul
Khalik had a big run on what it would have been,
at least either a game tying field goal driver, game
winning touchdown drive. But guess what happened. In fact, I
think I would have put Minnesota at the fifty or
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near there, clipping play allegedly, Well that's it, there you go.
And I believe he threw a desperation pass. Not long
after that his second interception, and at least this one
wasn't also a pick six and we lose. I couldn't
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believe it. In fact, I had a hard time. I'm
not sure I watched any hockey that night much to
the chagrin of Kevin Folomas, because it was you really
felt like, well, this is something historic here. We haven't
because I had suffered through covering a lot of bad
Gopher football for sure. Man the Whacker years, Oh my god,
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it was bad. It was really bad. And ultimately, like
I said, the Gophers won their bowl game that year,
I believe. Didn't they win that game? I think they did.
I think they lost to ninety nine, but I think
they won that year. Yeah, they won thirty one thirty.
That's the that's yeah, in two thousand. We're talk about
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two thousand and three, correct, Yeah, yeah, So I wasn't
at that game, right, I was at the Millennium Bowl,
right against Oregon. Against Oregon, that's shit. But we win
this one thirty one thirty, and so again we finished
ranked number twenty four in the country. I don't know how, Look,
it's an easy game of projection that they wouldn't have
lost to Michigan State the next week if they'd beat
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Michigan whoever, I mean, you don't know. Might they have
been so buoyed by being undefeated that they might have
run the table or had a better chance to beat
Iowa because I don't even I don't think they were
particularly competitive in that game off. I don't remember the
final score was like eighteen. I think that we lost
by But I always have felt even though no matter
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how many years go by, and no matter again, what
was our big year under Fleck nineteen? Yeah, you know,
twenty nineteen was obviously a good year. It could have
been better, but it was a good year for sure.
So it wasn't like they've never recovered. But I just
felt like that was the spot. It's Michigan. Yeah. Again,
it wasn't the Michigan of well recent Harbor vintage or
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Bochem Beckler vintage, but still Michigan. They won the Big
Ten that year and went to the Rose Bowl. There
you go, that Michigan team two. You can't you can't
get when you're this kind of program, you you you've
got to do it when you have the opportunity to
do it, because so rarely do you have the opportunity
to do it. Exactly right, That's how I felt. I
was thinking about that week in a way because Missouri
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has Alabama tomorrow in Columbia, and Missouri has been, you know,
a good program. They've had moments they're in the SEC now,
but they've been building for a year like this in
a game like this, and Alabama's not Alabama of Nick Saban,
but they're still pretty damn good, right, and so they're
kind of in that mode tomorrow, like this is the game,
this is what you've been waiting for. It. You have
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your opportunity now to announce that you're on the big
stage and ready for the big stage. And let's see
what they do with it. Because the three quarter, like
you said, people were, they were good people, just beam
They were a really good team because it none of
it felt. It wasn't like Tricker ration. Nope, it wasn't
fluky balls, tipped off hands. It was Barbara and moreles.
They barbecued him at the line of scrimmage. They were
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that easily the better team until they weren't, and then
they lost, and then they lost the next week too,
the double WHAMMYE a lot of texts coming in. That
was my first Gopher game I ever went to. Yeah,
was right beneath the scoreboard in the in the nosebleeds.
Because the nose bleeds, you needed those seats. It was full, unbreakable,
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is what he says. I remember watching the game in
my basement in Pine City with my father and recalling
him saying, the game's not over. I was busy celebrating. Wow,
he indeed was right. Why didn't you ask Mace about
the anniversary, Dan, Well, if you want me to be honest,
because I have a heart, no one believes me. Mace
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won't believe it. We have talked to him about that.
You've talked to him about in many, many times over
the years. The game he gets asked about more than
any game in his career. No question, no question, any
victory probably no question. You asked guards if they won,
but you already had that score pulled up. Fraud What
is he talking about? What does that mean? You have
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to explain exactly where where where the fraudulents is regarding
were talking about the Michigan game or a different game? Oh,
I just had the wrong Sun Bowl year because I
actually was thinking that was the one I attended. It
wasn't mine. Was the millennium. That's anohing to do with.
I hadn't No, I didn't have it called up. We
went to multiple sun so many critics, Dan. I also
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remember the game while I was bartending while going to College.
Then we had a sign that said profanity will not
be tolerated in the bar. I remember after the long
pass that I took a post it note and covered
up the not.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Suddenly profanity was indeed not only tolerated, it was probably encouraged.
That was a complete meltdown for the ages. And the
bad luck too. There's so many bad luck things, but
that the Gopher's final touchdown that you mentioned too soon.
It was just too quick, yeah, like, because they had
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clearly solved something with the Gopher defense that they were
exploiting in the fourth court. And once you get you know,
the pick six, and once you hit a when you're
down that big, you throw caution too. The wind right,
you basically can just do whatever you want because the
game is essentially lost in your mind, what do we
have to lose? But I remember thinking at the time,
I feel like he scored too fast. The Gopher's advantage
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would be hold the ball, run the ball like you
and milk the clock and let's get the hell out
of here. But you can't tell a guy not to score,
especially from midfield. No, I mean, yeah, you can't say
take a knee or like drop get to the five
yard line and then fall down and then we'll try
to run like six more or trying to do five
tush pushes from the file. There was still plenty of
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time left in the game, but it was just they
scored so fast. It got Michigan the ball back exactly right.
A lot of good techts coming in, uh regarding that,
and you know that's what that's twenty two years ago. Yeah,
I mean that's a while, but it's not so long
ago that there. You know, it's impossible that a lot
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of people in our audience can remember it, and a
lot of people wouldn't necessarily, I mean, people like we said,
might have even been available. What I can't find this
is sad I looked via ESPN dot com and they've
got the box score on it, or I should say
they have team stats. No, that says unavailable too, so
they this must have been one of those deals where
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it's for whatever reason, there's statute of limitations has run
out of the game room. Maybe Mason demanded that you
you try to, you know, take away much of the
record of it, because I what I want to remember
is what our running backs had. Of our running backs,
if you can find that let me know, maybe via
a gopher website or someplace else ESPN. The box score
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won't come up. Oh yeah, I'll be able to find it.
Book five. But it was over four hundred yards rushing.
I remember. Do you remember that too? Yeah? You had
Lawrence Maroni and Mary and Barbara the Third. Yeah, they
were clinical, they were ridiculous. All the nostalgia is a
swift kick straight to the grief bone. That's a good term,
the grief bone. I haven't heard that one before. Which
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bone would be the grief bond? Well, you pick, you choose,
you pick? Umm. Can you ask Whalen the next time
that she's on if the story of her saying what
the bleep is he doing regarding abdul Callique's pick six
is that if that's an accurate story, that's not one?
I know, it sounds possible. Whalen would say it. Yeah,
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in the moment. I mean she's a competitor. Yeah, there's
no question. Mary and Barbara the Third that night against Michigan, Okay,
twenty one carries one one and ninety seven yards. He
averaged nine point four yards of carry almost two hundred
yards him alone. I start will do a Calliague nine
carries one hundred and six yards, including the fifty two
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yard touchdown. Lawrence Morony Lomo nine carries eighty one yards.
You can't make that out. The starting running backs averaged
nine yards of carry or more against Michigan. Now, I'm
gonna suggest that somewhere there's there's a researcher who is
gonna be able to tell us that there has never
been another college football game ever played in which a
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team with two running backs who each each averaged nine
yards of carry and had as many carries as each
of them had ever lost that game. I can't imagine
another team, any other team losing. Both your ball carriers
averaged nine yards a carry and you lost the game.
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It's crazy to think about. And it happened on this
date in the year two thousand and three, not that
far off. What's the I'm sorry, why are we bringing
up the rest of the show. I mean we're going
to tackle ninety eight three. I know, No, this isn't
the date and anniversary date for me. I mean as
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a missed in two years. That gets Why does that
game get played so much on NFL network. That's a classic.
It was a colleague eight of nineteen for seventy one
yards and two picks. Yeah, that's that's how you lose. Yeah,
there you go, that's it. That's part of how you
four hundred yes, four hundred and twenty four yards rushing. Well,
will we a better passing team than that? Much of
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that year was I don't recall. I know we were
built on the ground. Yeah, but I'm wondering if we
were a little better. Right, Yeah, I'm sure we were
a little bit better. Because that's not good. That's not
very good. That's really bad. Who is their top runner?
Chris Perry? That's right, Chris Perry. And now what did
he do? Twenty carries eighty nine yards, that's four point three.
That's not John Navarre was their QB thirty three of
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forty seven for three point fifty three and two. But
they had to throw it they were down. Yeah, you're right,
Chris Perry caught eleven balls out of the backfield. Those
are the screen passes that I keep thinking about. Okay,
I just remember that over and over again. Just chunk
plays Brayln Edwards ninety three yards on seven catches, Jason Levant,
Steve Preston. They had some good dudes. They must have
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caught us on a throwback pass because John Navar caught
a pass for thirty six yards. I think that was
coming down to the end zone. I was sitting in okay,
I do remember that. And Navarre wasn't that good and
that was a touchdown? No, he was just a guy, yeah,
kind of ordinary. But we made him. Who was our
best defend Who is our best defensive player on that team?
Do you remember? Let me pull it up here, see
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what we have. So just just for the sake of
again making it a little bit more relatable, I mean
Darryl Reid was a good linebacker that played some in
the NFL. I mean Tremaine Banks, Uki Dozer, Eli Ward,
he let us and tackles with eleven Lawyer Tom says.
That was when college football stopped the clock after a
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first down until the ball was marked and ready for play.
Michigan was going down the field with ten to fifteen
yard passes. They have two or three drives of seven
to ten plays that took less than two minutes off
the clock. I was screaming at the TV for a
full half hour. The rules different now regarding first I
thought it still the clock still stopped that. Well, they
stopped doing that a couple of years ago. Maybe last
year was the first year where they keep the clock running.
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I think, do you have any idea why college football
is stubborn about adhering to the rule that if an
offensive player is untouched but hits the ground, the play
is dead. I don't know. Safety. It must be. I
don't know why they do it. Well, I sorry, if
you sign up for football, you might get hurt. I
have to deal with it, okay, Dave Portnoy, Well, I'm
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just thinking, like the play Jags quarterback guy had, Yeah,
that plays dead in college football falls down. That's true twice.
I don't like I think that. I'm amazed there hasn't
been much more of a movement unless it's, as I said,
maybe it is the safety thing. So it wasn't Chad
Hanny that year? It was Navarre right, Yes, yeah, right,
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somebody thought it was Hanny. I think Navar is right.
He was kind of he was a big strapping yes, lad,
wasn't he he was? Yeah, that's how all the Michigan
quarterbacks were. That's true. Yeah. And the next was it
the next day that the twins were eliminated by the Yankees.
It could have been. I know they were playing a
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playoff game, That's why they had to move it to Friday,
So it could have been. But I'm not sure. We'll
double check that. I think that was definitely one of
those years for sure. By the way, for those wondering
about football picks, they are coming. But Gerby apparently had
some sort of wiz dot meeting that he could not
get out of, at least he claims Friday meeting. I
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don't know if I believe him. There might be more
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lot of outstanding texts kind of laying out the history
people's individual and personal connections to that rather calamitous game
twenty two years ago on this date, Gophers blow a
twenty eighty seven to fourth quarter lead at home against
Michigan as the higher ranked team the Gophers were and
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end up losing in regulation. Being a student at the
U two thousand and one to five, I was present
for the Michigan meltdown in three. One interesting aspect going
into that game was the preparation on campus for another
potential riot after the two and three men's hockey riots.
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Do we still have the SoundBite somewhere we do? Everything
was looking good for another unruly celebration on campus, and
then the fourth quarter happened. It is that was from
like the twenty thirteen riots. Oh is that far? They'll
go that far back? Yeah? That much further, I guess further. Actually,
by the way, this guy Jonathan Choe, Yeah, I was
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informed he was part of the ANTIFA panel that presented
to President Trump earlier this week. That right, we might
have to do some dude digging, so maybe the rioters
put him out. He never recovered. He never recovered, but anyway,
he did a masterful job that night. He was great,
very adverse. But yes, we had the championship riots of
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the two three years when we won the national championship.
Those are the days, man, Those were indeed the days Dan.
If you recall a critical situation, the game was a
fourth in inches near midfield, with the Gophers clinging to
a thirty five to thirty one lead, Mace conservatively opted
to punt. What if without punishing the ground game was
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without punishing the crown game was? The punt was actually controversial.
I don't remember that play. I'll take him at his word.
I will say that in two thousand and three, that's
what most coaches would have done, I think, don't you,
because the change, Yeah, at both levels. I think it's
about ten years old, isn't it. I don't think it's
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much older than that. Maybe fifteen years, but we'll never know.
But it's certainly a fair point. I do not remember
that particular sequence, but I will take him at his word. Well,
there was one more I want. Oh, Chris Perry was
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Mischig's leading receiver eleven receptions. Yes, running back by the way.
Yeah it look and I guess I'm not totally surprised
that the whining has already begun from the Kevin Faulness
fueled hockey community. Wild just smoked them five to nothing.
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We're talking about this stuff. I love you, Paul. I
love that you listen. I appreciate it. I'm sure you're
tickled pink about the way the Wild started the season.
It's a nice start. Took care of business, scored well.
When the Blues try to kind of dominate, our newly
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compensated goaltender handled it beautifully in Period two. Special teams
weaknesses a year ago. We're not in this game. But
I'm just gonna tell I'm gonna warn Paul now, and
I'm gonna warn members of the hockey community, and they
may not like it. I actually think they should love it,
but they may not like it because it's their sensitive lot.
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We're upping the standards and the expectations and the demands
on this show. I can't speak for other programs, but
I can speak for this one. It's time, man, It's time.
So the unfortunate dilemma the team is is they can't
fast forward to the playoffs. I get that, but we
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are going to hold back on at least I on
on any major enthusiasm about this team until I see
a payoff to get out of at least round one. Sorry,
it's time and if you want to enable them, Oh,
cho club, Hey, great, great opener. We had a great
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opener last year, I think, and didn't we didn't we
we started the season great last year. But we're at
a point now where we got to up the handy
a little bit. We got to up the heat. We're
out of the salary. Cap Hell. Allegedly, we got young
people that we want to play if they'll show they're
worthy of it. They've been highly tutored. They now they
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got to prove it. Caprice office got his money, the
goaltender has gotten his money. So I'm not demanding Stanley
Cup title or bust. But I'm saying, no, we're a
cute little start to the season is uh, We're not
going to play that game anymore. If we ever did,
we certainly haven't played a lot of it the last
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few years. But this year, for me especially, I ain't
playing that game anymore. I just I can't do it.
I would think if you're I mean, is this the
state of hockey? Instead of being defensive about that, I
would think you'd agree with that and say, yeah, yeah,
it is time I get it. Grant on a tougher
curve it's okay. We encourage it because we're the state
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of hockey. Haven't we graded on a curve long enough
for various reasons at the pro level at least, So
smoke him if you got them. But I I you know,
go ahead and raise the commemorative print to a dominant opener.
Five was a five nil? Is that the final score
against a very average Saint Louis? Now see that's not
gonna help him. He's going to be a bitter, but
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it's undeniable. So I I, yeah, I come on that.
It could be Paul's a falest burner account. I could
be that would not even surprise Paul fallness. Yeah, Vikings
have done whatever. I can't stand the hypocrisy. Well, there's
two problems with that, actually three? Can I name them
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in order? Let's start with the most obvious. If what's
the name? There no name on this one? Three two
oh gay. I don't know how long three to two
oh guy has listened to the show. But if he
thinks the Vikings have gotten a pass on this program
(32:10):
for its postseason no shows lately, he's listening to the
wrong show or he's on another frequency. Now, football is
always different because there are only now seventeen games, so
each game can feel like it's something more. Also, the
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built in broad level interest in the Vikings is on
another level undeniable. But how often do I bring up
on this show? We love koc, We love a lot
of what he stands for, We love what he has
to say. Blah blah blah. Sooner or later, you got
to make our move. You got. Similarly, they have not
even won a single playoff game? Have we not said
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that on this show? Over and over come on man,
the calendar of calamity is not spared to Minnesota Vikings.
Unfortunately for me, we've discussed a lot of the NFC
Championship game meltdowns, including nineteen ninety eight and I share
my memories and even more recent every time. Of course,
the playoff debacle against the Rams. Weren't we favored to
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win that game? I think we were. We weren't even
competitive in that game. So there's a hockey fan bitter
with your suggesting Saint Louis's average. They made the playoffs
last year. Can't you make the playoffs and be average?
I mean, how many teams make the playoffs? It's sixteen? Still, right?
It is you can be pretty average and make the playoffs, right,
I think Russol called them like the Central Division, like
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wild card team. Correct, they're kind of a wild card.
We'll see, you know. They might be sneaky, they might
be plucky. But I also remember listing I think to
the it was to the Wild broadcast last year or
the year before, and they were talking about their big
rebuild and how it was going to take some time.
So yeah, they're just okay. Yeah, they're certainly not considered
upper echelon at this point. Maybe they will emerge. They
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were a few years back. When they go out of
the playoffs on the first round. Well, everybody's done that
though pretty much anything but way you'r led towel tomorrow night, everybody,
if the playoffs started today, the Wild would be in,
like Flynn, Yeah, well that cannot be controversial. Although you
reminded me we don't go to eighty four games until
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next season. Is that correct? According to Fawdness, who immediately
corrected me last night on it, I thought we were
on top of everything. We were pretty close. I'm just
impressed we knew they were expanding to eighty four. No,
I'm glad you reminded me because I did. I did
remember it, but I couldn't. I couldn't even recall which
year it was going to be. But you think it's
going to be next year. That's what Kevin told me,
and I trust him. You'll report when the quarterback gets
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a hangnail though.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yes, yes we will, yes, yes, I don't know what
to tell you. We will, too, old guy, you can't
be you can't be this naive, can you.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You can call it unfair, but I'll ask you again.
I mean, when is the let let's try to put
an end to this nonsense. Can you name me the
last time the Minnesota Vikings made it to the NFC
title game? That would be the Minneapolis Miracle year with
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case Keenum, How seventeen a while ago? Yep, but seventeen.
Can you name me the last year the only year
in which the Minnesota Wild made it to the conference finals,
the same year we're talking about with go for football
right now? Two thousand and three. Then come on, So
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even if you want to measure on that standard, it
doesn't hold up. But it's again, it's the hockey community.
They're oh, they they're all excited, you know, they they
want to believe badly, and I've nothing good. Looks God,
you see that looks good in the box score. Nobody
has more points than we do right now. You can't can't,
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don't believe. Uh, Peter Popsicle needs to let Dan know
that no team in NHL history has started the season
ller to four. So where we are very much in
the race, you're hanging banners for making the conference finals. No, No,
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I'm suggesting that if the Hockey Zealots point was what
are the go what are the Vikings done? They have
at least made it to the Final four a couple
of times more recently than the only time that the
Minnesota While did. And if you want to go back
far enough, even though they lost them all, they made
it to four super Bowls. It's been a while. That's
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the point. No, we don't grade on. We don't. We
don't put up commemorative banners for conference finals appearances. Maybe
for a win to get to the championship round super Bowl,
and or probably would right now the Vikings get to
the super Bowl. All you said it a couple of times,
you'd take it. I would the Minnesota Wild get to
the Stanley Cup Finals and lose in four most people
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are still gonna take it. I think we're all of
that in that place. Let's do this. Let's pause right now,
get caught up, don't forget top of the No. Yeah,
four o'clock now, four thirty is the Gerby prediction segment?
Is that correct? That is correct? I can't wait? Uh
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six one two? Guy rightes. Oops. No team in NHL
history has started oh and four and won the Cup
in the history of hockey. That surprises me a little bit,
given how long the season is. I think oh and
four wouldn't necessarily mean I bet you there have been
some Stanley Cup finalists that have gotten there. Probably now again,
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what's interesting. I'm getting a little pushback on the other
side from some members of the hockey community. Said Blues
goalie was terrible, lucky win. We were completely dominated in
terms of play on the ice for much of the
second period. That's not very positive. I don't know. I
don't know what I'm not saying. It's a loss by
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any stretch of the imagination. I think we just have
to just have to. I think hold uphold a little
high standard. I have a speaking of higher standards, I
have a well wings question for you, as in, you know,
wings and drummis that those kinds of wings. And I
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don't want to go into what's your favorite flavor? You know,
what's your favorite marinate, what's your favorite sauce, whatever, That
doesn't really interest me that much. But I happen to
be in one of the outstanding Kowalski stores. This was
about a week and change ago, and hold on to
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this and I can't. I don't want to hold on
it any longer because the bile is building up. And
at most Kowalski's they have a very diversified wings section.
They have some boneless wings that don't do much for
me but are popular, and then they usually have what
they call their grilled wings, roasted wings, and then they
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have what they call Minnesota rub which are also you know, grilled,
but just a slightly different marinate or flavor, whatever you
want to say. And on this particular occasion, in fact,
it was a Friday, might have been like one or
two enough, SAIDs Ago. We tape you know, nuonish the program,
and in this case, I think it was the Eden
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Prairie Kowalski's because that's not that far from where we
tape and there was a guy in front of me
waiting for It looked like they the wing, the main
grilled wings was the pot was just about empty. Okay,
so it looked like he was patiently waiting for you know,
maybe he even had asked, you got more wings coming next,
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and they said, big matches coming, stay tuned. So I
do get a couple other things done, and I come
back and there's a there's like an enormous vat of
wings that have now been slapped down in this particular
you know, bowl, a pot, whatever you want to say,
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and this guy, it's not I'm not offended that the
guy who had been waiting filled up two large containers
of wings, because again, you got something big going. What
do you know, you're there, it's you know, all's fair
in love and war. But what did offend me was
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he literally took every single drummy section of the wing. Everyone. Yeah,
we need it's time, We need wings monitors who have
the good sense to make the tough decisions and to say,
I get it. Most people like the drummy more than
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the what do they call the other part? There's a
name for it. Yeah, I don't know about I'd just
say the wing part. Most people love the drumming part better,
and I we all do, including me, most of the time.
I think I like the wing part better. Well, okay,
you might be right. I don't love the drum all
the time. So well, actually, if it's too chunky, I
don't either. But regardless, we need You're gonna need to
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establish some drumming monitors who have the good sense to say,
all right, I'll accept seventy five twenty five because that's
what most people do. I'm not gonna accept ninety eight
to two. That's that's we are rejecting that percentage. Put
some of the damn drummers back, or I'm gonna watch
and say that's it. The drummers limit eight drummis. Shouldn't
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there be enough self censorship going on that you say, well,
good conscience. I can't leave with where the remaining wings.
There is literally not a single drummy left, or if
it was I did find one, it was like Buried.
The only reason he didn't take it. It was like Buried
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didn't find it. No under three or four of the others.
That was kind of scrawny looking. That was it. There
should be I mean, in all honesty. We know there's
not enough people working to have wing monitors, and most
of them won't have the guts, especially in Minnesota, to
say hold on, that's enough. Yeah, this needs to be
This needs to be a determination made by people just
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being fair to the rest of the community. Oh, you
honest is self police, That's what I'm asking You're not
going to do that? Impossible. No, we're not going to
do that. That will never happen. Does there need to
be a sign though, like there is for like the
self checkout lane that says ten items or less or
fifteen items or less. Do they need to have a
sign that says, please limit yourself to eight drummies or less.
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That's not a bad idea. I do six drummies. Well,
does that need to be at least a step in
the right direction, because I don't think they're going to
have you know, retired police officers can monitoring the drummies
in you know, a high time director's chair. To be honest,
they need to be packing heat too, because I think
you gotta make sure, Yeah, you gotta make sure that
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there that people feel a little bit of concerned and Okay,
I gotta follow the rules here. How many drummers you
got there, sir? You might yeah, you're probably right about that,
And I don't know what the number is. I honestly don't.
And again he's there, no one else is around here.
You say, well, I got a big crowd. I'm going
to whatever the case may be. But have some self respect,
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just a little bit, just a modicum of restraint where
you go. Yeah, that's kind of not fair. I gotta
I gotta keep a few. I gotta lead allow several
of the other drummers. By the way, the other part is
called the flat. The flat, Okay, the flat can confirm
a number of people saying they like flat like flats better.
I think I do, And that might be true. But
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there seems to be a reason that most wings bars
I go to there are more flats available than there
are drummis. That seems to indicate more people tend to
prefer the drumming part. So this concept that you're talking about,
I run into this, and it's too bad maces and
on this show today at all, because as we could
talk Michigan. But his other favorite topic is me and
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the food line right as many times and it always
happens where you know, and you know how the media
buffets work their buffets usually, right, they're just vats of stuff.
And speaking of lack of restraint, exactly, sports writers and
media jackals and broadcasts are the most gluttonous people earth,
and I'm trying to change that. So I'm in the
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middle of the line at Ohia at a higha stadium. Yes,
and I've noticed that I don't even remember what it was,
the chicken, masta choli or whatever we were eating in
Columbus is getting a little low. And I got fifty
two people behind me, right, So do I want to
be the guy that just means out the tray? I
don't know when the Red Coats are bringing the next one.
So what do I do? You just take a modest amount,
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take a couple a couple of shelves, and responsible if
I have to come back if I'm still hungry, which
I probably will, but I'm not just going to bury it. Well,
I got thirty people behind me because of what you
just said, we existed a society, yeah right, there need
to be some kind of norms. So yeah, I left
a few shelves in there. Did you get rewarded? I mean,
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anybody noticed and say thank you for leaving some behind. No,
but you don't do it for the thanks now, you
just do it because you want to be a good person.
But I am so I can think I'm thinking about
being that guy. At Kowalski's. I probably would have thought, hey,
do you want drummis? What have you been You've been
waiting here for twenty five minutes like me? Do you
want a couple of drummers too? Or do you want
the flats? I might have checked in on you, by
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the way, Zach writes Dan, that was me. All I
have to say is your or you should have gotten
there sooner. That's a doggy dog guy right there. That's like,
bleep you, it's your problem. Yeah, at Kowalski's they can
afford armed drummy cards. They probably could. A good point,
good point, that's probably true. Flats are far and away,
more are far and away superior. Shame on you. Well
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that's just taste though, And again I do not dislike
the flats. If the drummy this is where's it sounds?
If it's two lump, got too much meat on it,
I actually don't like it as much. I'm not sure
that I enjoy the flavor quite as much, so I
end up going to a decent number of flats. I
just want the option, Yes, you'd like to choose. Yeah,
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I'd like to be able to have the chance. Rather
than this Jamoke who basically had two massive, you know
containers just and every every bleeping one of them was
a drummy. It's like, God, man, it's okay. You know,
we're not there's no storm coming. It's not like you're
gonna have another chance at it. He might have had
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eaton Prairie football tailgate. He had to get to
Can I get a before we get started or did
you lose that one too? Before we get started, let's
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Guardie is the producer of the show, and it'll be
a very eclectic program today given that the Minneapolis Vikings
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are off this week. As most of you know, we
are in bye week now. After watching the Eagles last
night in New York, dare I say over confidence is
our only enemy when the Eagles come to town for
a high noon encounter, right, something's got to get the
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head the sure as hell not going to flex it now.
We're three and two and they've just lost two in
a row. For Mike Yo. Anyway, we're delighted that you
are along for today's ride. We're going the full distance.
That's the plan. That means till six point thirty this
very evening. And to those fans of the prediction segment,
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bit of a change today, Gerby will not be available
allegedly until four thirty Gerbschmidt not four, not three thirty,
but four to thirty today. That'll be followed up at
five by Ben Gesling, a different time for him. He's
apparently accommodating enough to move off his four thirty slot
to make it work on the predictions, and then the
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usual Lavelle with his phone adventures scheduled for five thirty
this evening. I think that's all the guests that we
have at least set up for right now. Bradshawn Brian
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If you would like to get in on the some
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of the fun, we would be delighted to hear from you.
We already are hearing from you, as is often the case,
especially as we get towards the end of the week,
get closer to a football Saturday and a football Sunday
as well. I'll ask you this question because your job
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is to pay extra close attention to college football and
to the Golden Gophers. And I'm not here to tell
you that post this momentous, calamitous occasion, that the Gophers
have been in the abyss that they have not had
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any good moments. And I may have even asked you
this question before, but I'll ask it to you again,
and I'll ask the audience again, did everything change on
the basis of what took place on this date? What
is the date? By the way, Yeah, I know where
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you're going in the year two thousand and three regarding
Golden Gopher football. Now, for the faint of heart, I
never suggest or advise people to change. Then, I prefer
you stay here. If we had a trigger warning, we
probably would issue it or play it right now. But
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we get in trouble if it's a warning sign sound
So I can just voice that and pass it along
to you. On this date in the year two thousand
and three, remember well, game that got moved to a
Friday night, as I recall, it sure did because of
baseball playoffs. Correct it sure did. Yeah, a Friday night.
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The Golden Gophers, who until that night that game had
knocked off Tulsa forty nine to ten, Mighty Troy State
forty eight to seven. Who did Alabama play that year? Ohio?
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Or is Glenn Mason would say? Ohio, Ohio forty two
to twenty. There went to Athens and got it done.
Anna Lafayette here my goodness, forty eight to fourteen at
Penn State, ranked twenty fourth at the time, beat them
twenty to fourteen at Northwestern. Actually, I don't think Penn
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State was ranked. I think the Gophers were ranked twenty
fourth at that point. At Northwestern ryan Field, we destroy
the Cats forty two to seventeen, and that sets up
one of the most highly anticipated college football games in
Golden Gopher history. We're going to host number twenty Michigan.
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We're actually ranked higher going into that game. We're ranked seventeen,
they're ranked twenty, and we go through the first half
through three quarters, go through their defense like Butter I
was covering. I want to say it was a Minnesota
wild opener, or at least a wild hockey game. I'm
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in the wild press box making my usual trips to
get popcorn during breaks, and every time I look up
on the t at the TV, University of Minnesota is
driving again, I think by through three quarters they might
have had three hundred yards rushing. They just absolutely look
like Michigan looked like the impostor. Michigan looked like us historically.
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We looked like not only the better team, but the
dominant team. And if we win that game, we go
to six and oh one, two, three, four or five
no seven and oh for Mike yo and the world
seems to be our oyster because all we have left
the rest of the year. Michigan State, although they were
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ranked Illinois, a terrible Indiana team, Wisconsin iolow is ranked twenty,
and you started thinking, like, this is different than anything
we've seen in Golden Gopher football, obviously since the national
championship days. They go back to the early sixties and
then the Bernie beermann Here this was different. We're frolicking,
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and then the fourth quarter happened. We gave up in
one quarter thirty one points. Ultimately we lose on a
late field goal thirty eight to thirty five. Now, you
can't say the team that year never that they collapsed,
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although the next week they did lose yep to Michigan
State in front of like half the crowd at the
Metro Dome. That's true, forty four to thirty eight. But
then they beat Illinois, they crushed Indiana, they beat Wisconsin
yep reslide field goal thirty seven to thirty four. We
did get pummeled at Iowa, but then we ended up
in the Sun Bowl that year. I was there for
that one too, and we finish the entire postseason ranked
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twenty fourth in the country, which again for University Missios.
But I to this day wonder whether that was the
day where everything changed that I often I guess project
how much life might have been different for Mason, for
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University of Minnesota football if they completed that destruction of
the University of Michigan on that fateful Friday night. You
were there, weren't you? I absolutely was there. I was
there and I just started working here. How crushed were you?
I was crushed because of everything that you just said.
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It felt like this was the moment. Yes, And for
somebody who grew up going to games at the Metro Dome,
I remember that as the first time for two things.
Number One, where Washington Avenue, before all the condos and
stuff were built, those used to be tailgate lots for
Vikings games. Nobody ever used those for Gopher games, very rarely, right,
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And I remember Washington Avenue being just a sea of
maroon and gold on a Friday night in downtown Minneapolis.
And then you went to the game, and it was
the first time I remember to sell out that was
all Gopher fans. That wasn't people from Wisconsin helping out
or people from Iowa helping out. It was the first
time I ever remembered a full sold out crowd with
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ninety percent Minnesota fans crowd. You're right, And as I
said flippantly, the next week, the crowd was half that
because the moment was there, and the moment passed and
the balloon got deflated. And I remember almost everything from
that week. I remember how we covered it on the fan.
I was an intern. I remember all kinds of stuff
that we were doing in terms of coverage, the Friday
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night aspect of it, and then to have them tease
you like that and basically dominate the game. They ended
with four hundred plus rushing its right. Masa always tells
a story about Lloyd Carr calling him on Monday and saying,
I don't know how we won that game. You kicked
our ass which is convenient, and but it's true they were.
They were dominant for forty five of the sixty minutes
sixty two thousand, three hundred and seventy four at the
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Dome for that game, and sixty thousand of them were Minnesota.
The next week, Michigan State here thirty eight, seven hundred
and seventy eight. It was like, that's it. Yeah, we
thought we had it. Now we don't. We're bored, We're done.
We get it the same old team. Now do you
remember what happened specifically in that court in the fateful
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fourth quarter? I remember a lot of screen passes. It began.
Michigan starts the quarter with the ball. They drive resolutely,
ten plays, touchdowns, now twenty eight to fourteen. Next drive.
Problem for the Golphers was that was the pick six drive. Aside,
Abdual Kalik yep throws a pick six, So now it's
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a touchdown. That quickly it's gone from you're in control
to it's a touchdown game. However, we did respond at
that point too quickly. Abdua Khalik fifty two yard touchdown
run right up the middle. On the next drive. You
remember it well, I do. I was in the end zone,
and I remember the Sea's partying in him just going
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straight down the other way. Do you remember what happened
sixty seconds later? I don't. Fifty two yard touchdown pass
to Braylen Edwards. Oh yeah, he's pretty good. Michigan then
gets a rushing touchdown from your guy Chris Perry, a
field goal from Garrett Revas, and now we're down three.
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It's thirty eight to thirty five. We have the ball,
and I don't remember how many yards this one was.
Somebody will tell us Dan what a soda might Abdul
Khalik had a big run on what it would have been,
at least either a game tying field goal driver, game
winning touchdown drive. But guess what happened. In fact, I
think I would have put Minnesota at the fifty or
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near there, clipping play allegedly, Well that's it, there you go.
And I believe he threw a desperation pass. Not long
after that his second interception, and at least this one
wasn't also a pick six and we lose. I couldn't
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believe it. In fact, I had a hard time. I'm
not sure I watched any hockey that night much to
the chagrin of Kevin Folomas, because it was you really
felt like, well, this is something historic here. We haven't
because I had suffered through covering a lot of bad
Gopher football for sure. Man the Whacker years, Oh my god,
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it was bad. It was really bad. And ultimately, like
I said, the Gophers won their bowl game that year,
I believe. Didn't they win that game? I think they did.
I think they lost to ninety nine, but I think
they won that year. Yeah, they won thirty one thirty.
That's the that's yeah, in two thousand. We're talk about
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two thousand and three, correct, Yeah, yeah, So I wasn't
at that game, right, I was at the Millennium Bowl,
right against Oregon. Against Oregon, that's shit. But we win
this one thirty one thirty, and so again we finished
ranked number twenty four in the country. I don't know how, Look,
it's an easy game of projection that they wouldn't have
lost to Michigan State the next week if they'd beat
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Michigan whoever, I mean, you don't know. Might they have
been so buoyed by being undefeated that they might have
run the table or had a better chance to beat
Iowa because I don't even I don't think they were
particularly competitive in that game off. I don't remember the
final score was like eighteen. I think that we lost
by But I always have felt even though no matter
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how many years go by, and no matter again, what
was our big year under Fleck nineteen? Yeah, you know,
twenty nineteen was obviously a good year. It could have
been better, but it was a good year for sure.
So it wasn't like they've never recovered. But I just
felt like that was the spot. It's Michigan. Yeah. Again,
it wasn't the Michigan of well recent Harbor vintage or
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Bochem Beckler vintage, but still Michigan. They won the Big
Ten that year and went to the Rose Bowl. There
you go, that Michigan team two. You can't you can't
get when you're this kind of program, you you you've
got to do it when you have the opportunity to
do it, because so rarely do you have the opportunity
to do it. Exactly right, That's how I felt. I
was thinking about that week in a way because Missouri
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has Alabama tomorrow in Columbia, and Missouri has been, you know,
a good program. They've had moments they're in the SEC now,
but they've been building for a year like this in
a game like this, and Alabama's not Alabama of Nick Saban,
but they're still pretty damn good, right, and so they're
kind of in that mode tomorrow, like this is the game,
this is what you've been waiting for. It. You have
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your opportunity now to announce that you're on the big
stage and ready for the big stage. And let's see
what they do with it. Because the three quarter, like
you said, people were, they were good people, just beam
They were a really good team because it none of
it felt. It wasn't like Tricker ration. Nope, it wasn't
fluky balls, tipped off hands. It was Barbara and moreles.
They barbecued him at the line of scrimmage. They were
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that easily the better team until they weren't, and then
they lost, and then they lost the next week too,
the double WHAMMYE a lot of texts coming in. That
was my first Gopher game I ever went to. Yeah,
was right beneath the scoreboard in the in the nosebleeds.
Because the nose bleeds, you needed those seats. It was full, unbreakable,
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is what he says. I remember watching the game in
my basement in Pine City with my father and recalling
him saying, the game's not over. I was busy celebrating. Wow,
he indeed was right. Why didn't you ask Mace about
the anniversary, Dan, Well, if you want me to be honest,
because I have a heart, no one believes me. Mace
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won't believe it. We have talked to him about that.
You've talked to him about in many, many times over
the years. The game he gets asked about more than
any game in his career. No question, no question, any
victory probably no question. You asked guards if they won,
but you already had that score pulled up. Fraud What
is he talking about? What does that mean? You have
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to explain exactly where where where the fraudulents is regarding
were talking about the Michigan game or a different game? Oh,
I just had the wrong Sun Bowl year because I
actually was thinking that was the one I attended. It
wasn't mine. Was the millennium. That's anohing to do with.
I hadn't No, I didn't have it called up. We
went to multiple sun so many critics, Dan. I also
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remember the game while I was bartending while going to College.
Then we had a sign that said profanity will not
be tolerated in the bar. I remember after the long
pass that I took a post it note and covered
up the not.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Suddenly profanity was indeed not only tolerated, it was probably encouraged.
That was a complete meltdown for the ages. And the
bad luck too. There's so many bad luck things, but
that the Gopher's final touchdown that you mentioned too soon.
It was just too quick, yeah, like, because they had
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clearly solved something with the Gopher defense that they were
exploiting in the fourth court. And once you get you know,
the pick six, and once you hit a when you're
down that big, you throw caution too. The wind right,
you basically can just do whatever you want because the
game is essentially lost in your mind, what do we
have to lose? But I remember thinking at the time,
I feel like he scored too fast. The Gopher's advantage
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would be hold the ball, run the ball like you
and milk the clock and let's get the hell out
of here. But you can't tell a guy not to score,
especially from midfield. No, I mean, yeah, you can't say
take a knee or like drop get to the five
yard line and then fall down and then we'll try
to run like six more or trying to do five
tush pushes from the file. There was still plenty of
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time left in the game, but it was just they
scored so fast. It got Michigan the ball back exactly right.
A lot of good techts coming in, uh regarding that,
and you know that's what that's twenty two years ago. Yeah,
I mean that's a while, but it's not so long
ago that there. You know, it's impossible that a lot
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of people in our audience can remember it, and a
lot of people wouldn't necessarily, I mean, people like we said,
might have even been available. What I can't find this
is sad I looked via ESPN dot com and they've
got the box score on it, or I should say
they have team stats. No, that says unavailable too, so
they this must have been one of those deals where
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it's for whatever reason, there's statute of limitations has run
out of the game room. Maybe Mason demanded that you
you try to, you know, take away much of the
record of it, because I what I want to remember
is what our running backs had. Of our running backs,
if you can find that let me know, maybe via
a gopher website or someplace else ESPN. The box score
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won't come up. Oh yeah, I'll be able to find it.
Book five. But it was over four hundred yards rushing.
I remember. Do you remember that too? Yeah? You had
Lawrence Maroni and Mary and Barbara the Third. Yeah, they
were clinical, they were ridiculous. All the nostalgia is a
swift kick straight to the grief bone. That's a good term,
the grief bone. I haven't heard that one before. Which
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bone would be the grief bond? Well, you pick, you choose,
you pick? Umm. Can you ask Whalen the next time
that she's on if the story of her saying what
the bleep is he doing regarding abdul Callique's pick six
is that if that's an accurate story, that's not one?
I know, it sounds possible. Whalen would say it. Yeah,
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in the moment. I mean she's a competitor. Yeah, there's
no question. Mary and Barbara the Third that night against Michigan, Okay,
twenty one carries one one and ninety seven yards. He
averaged nine point four yards of carry almost two hundred
yards him alone. I start will do a Calliague nine
carries one hundred and six yards, including the fifty two
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yard touchdown. Lawrence Morony Lomo nine carries eighty one yards.
You can't make that out. The starting running backs averaged
nine yards of carry or more against Michigan. Now, I'm
gonna suggest that somewhere there's there's a researcher who is
gonna be able to tell us that there has never
been another college football game ever played in which a
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team with two running backs who each each averaged nine
yards of carry and had as many carries as each
of them had ever lost that game. I can't imagine
another team, any other team losing. Both your ball carriers
averaged nine yards a carry and you lost the game.
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It's crazy to think about. And it happened on this
date in the year two thousand and three, not that
far off. What's the I'm sorry, why are we bringing
up the rest of the show. I mean we're going
to tackle ninety eight three. I know, No, this isn't
the date and anniversary date for me. I mean as
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a missed in two years. That gets Why does that
game get played so much on NFL network. That's a classic.
It was a colleague eight of nineteen for seventy one
yards and two picks. Yeah, that's that's how you lose. Yeah,
there you go, that's it. That's part of how you
four hundred yes, four hundred and twenty four yards rushing. Well,
will we a better passing team than that? Much of
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that year was I don't recall. I know we were
built on the ground. Yeah, but I'm wondering if we
were a little better. Right, Yeah, I'm sure we were
a little bit better. Because that's not good. That's not
very good. That's really bad. Who is their top runner?
Chris Perry? That's right, Chris Perry. And now what did
he do? Twenty carries eighty nine yards, that's four point three.
That's not John Navarre was their QB thirty three of
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forty seven for three point fifty three and two. But
they had to throw it they were down. Yeah, you're right,
Chris Perry caught eleven balls out of the backfield. Those
are the screen passes that I keep thinking about. Okay,
I just remember that over and over again. Just chunk
plays Brayln Edwards ninety three yards on seven catches, Jason Levant,
Steve Preston. They had some good dudes. They must have
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caught us on a throwback pass because John Navar caught
a pass for thirty six yards. I think that was
coming down to the end zone. I was sitting in okay,
I do remember that. And Navarre wasn't that good and
that was a touchdown? No, he was just a guy, yeah,
kind of ordinary. But we made him. Who was our
best defend Who is our best defensive player on that team?
Do you remember? Let me pull it up here, see
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what we have. So just just for the sake of
again making it a little bit more relatable, I mean
Darryl Reid was a good linebacker that played some in
the NFL. I mean Tremaine Banks, Uki Dozer, Eli Ward,
he let us and tackles with eleven Lawyer Tom says.
That was when college football stopped the clock after a
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first down until the ball was marked and ready for play.
Michigan was going down the field with ten to fifteen
yard passes. They have two or three drives of seven
to ten plays that took less than two minutes off
the clock. I was screaming at the TV for a
full half hour. The rules different now regarding first I
thought it still the clock still stopped that. Well, they
stopped doing that a couple of years ago. Maybe last
year was the first year where they keep the clock running.
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I think, do you have any idea why college football
is stubborn about adhering to the rule that if an
offensive player is untouched but hits the ground, the play
is dead. I don't know. Safety. It must be. I
don't know why they do it. Well, I sorry, if
you sign up for football, you might get hurt. I
have to deal with it, okay, Dave Portnoy, Well, I'm
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just thinking, like the play Jags quarterback guy had, Yeah,
that plays dead in college football falls down. That's true twice.
I don't like I think that. I'm amazed there hasn't
been much more of a movement unless it's, as I said,
maybe it is the safety thing. So it wasn't Chad
Hanny that year? It was Navarre right, Yes, yeah, right,
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somebody thought it was Hanny. I think Navar is right.
He was kind of he was a big strapping yes, lad,
wasn't he he was? Yeah, that's how all the Michigan
quarterbacks were. That's true. Yeah. And the next was it
the next day that the twins were eliminated by the Yankees.
It could have been. I know they were playing a
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playoff game, That's why they had to move it to Friday,
So it could have been. But I'm not sure. We'll
double check that. I think that was definitely one of
those years for sure. By the way, for those wondering
about football picks, they are coming. But Gerby apparently had
some sort of wiz dot meeting that he could not
get out of, at least he claims Friday meeting. I
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don't know if I believe him. There might be more
of the story there usually is with him, but he
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lot of outstanding texts kind of laying out the history
people's individual and personal connections to that rather calamitous game
twenty two years ago on this date, Gophers blow a
twenty eighty seven to fourth quarter lead at home against
Michigan as the higher ranked team the Gophers were and
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end up losing in regulation. Being a student at the
U two thousand and one to five, I was present
for the Michigan meltdown in three. One interesting aspect going
into that game was the preparation on campus for another
potential riot after the two and three men's hockey riots.
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Do we still have the SoundBite somewhere we do? Everything
was looking good for another unruly celebration on campus, and
then the fourth quarter happened. It is that was from
like the twenty thirteen riots. Oh is that far? They'll
go that far back? Yeah? That much further, I guess further. Actually,
by the way, this guy Jonathan Choe, Yeah, I was
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informed he was part of the ANTIFA panel that presented
to President Trump earlier this week. That right, we might
have to do some dude digging, so maybe the rioters
put him out. He never recovered. He never recovered, but anyway,
he did a masterful job that night. He was great,
very adverse. But yes, we had the championship riots of
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the two three years when we won the national championship.
Those are the days, man, Those were indeed the days Dan.
If you recall a critical situation, the game was a
fourth in inches near midfield, with the Gophers clinging to
a thirty five to thirty one lead, Mace conservatively opted
to punt. What if without punishing the ground game was
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without punishing the crown game was? The punt was actually controversial.
I don't remember that play. I'll take him at his word.
I will say that in two thousand and three, that's
what most coaches would have done, I think, don't you,
because the change, Yeah, at both levels. I think it's
about ten years old, isn't it. I don't think it's
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much older than that. Maybe fifteen years, but we'll never know.
But it's certainly a fair point. I do not remember
that particular sequence, but I will take him at his word. Well,
there was one more I want. Oh, Chris Perry was
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Mischig's leading receiver eleven receptions. Yes, running back by the way.
Yeah it look and I guess I'm not totally surprised
that the whining has already begun from the Kevin Faulness
fueled hockey community. Wild just smoked them five to nothing.
(28:24):
We're talking about this stuff. I love you, Paul. I
love that you listen. I appreciate it. I'm sure you're
tickled pink about the way the Wild started the season.
It's a nice start. Took care of business, scored well.
When the Blues try to kind of dominate, our newly
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compensated goaltender handled it beautifully in Period two. Special teams
weaknesses a year ago. We're not in this game. But
I'm just gonna tell I'm gonna warn Paul now, and
I'm gonna warn members of the hockey community, and they
may not like it. I actually think they should love it,
but they may not like it because it's their sensitive lot.
(29:07):
We're upping the standards and the expectations and the demands
on this show. I can't speak for other programs, but
I can speak for this one. It's time, man, It's time.
So the unfortunate dilemma the team is is they can't
fast forward to the playoffs. I get that, but we
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are going to hold back on at least I on
on any major enthusiasm about this team until I see
a payoff to get out of at least round one. Sorry,
it's time and if you want to enable them, Oh,
cho club, Hey, great, great opener. We had a great
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opener last year, I think, and didn't we didn't we
we started the season great last year. But we're at
a point now where we got to up the handy
a little bit. We got to up the heat. We're
out of the salary. Cap Hell. Allegedly, we got young
people that we want to play if they'll show they're
worthy of it. They've been highly tutored. They now they
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got to prove it. Caprice office got his money, the
goaltender has gotten his money. So I'm not demanding Stanley
Cup title or bust. But I'm saying, no, we're a
cute little start to the season is uh, We're not
going to play that game anymore. If we ever did,
we certainly haven't played a lot of it the last
(30:36):
few years. But this year, for me especially, I ain't
playing that game anymore. I just I can't do it.
I would think if you're I mean, is this the
state of hockey? Instead of being defensive about that, I
would think you'd agree with that and say, yeah, yeah,
it is time I get it. Grant on a tougher
curve it's okay. We encourage it because we're the state
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of hockey. Haven't we graded on a curve long enough
for various reasons at the pro level at least, So
smoke him if you got them. But I I you know,
go ahead and raise the commemorative print to a dominant opener.
Five was a five nil? Is that the final score
against a very average Saint Louis? Now see that's not
gonna help him. He's going to be a bitter, but
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it's undeniable. So I I, yeah, I come on that.
It could be Paul's a falest burner account. I could
be that would not even surprise Paul fallness. Yeah, Vikings
have done whatever. I can't stand the hypocrisy. Well, there's
two problems with that, actually three? Can I name them
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in order? Let's start with the most obvious. If what's
the name? There no name on this one? Three two
oh gay. I don't know how long three to two
oh guy has listened to the show. But if he
thinks the Vikings have gotten a pass on this program
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for its postseason no shows lately, he's listening to the
wrong show or he's on another frequency. Now, football is
always different because there are only now seventeen games, so
each game can feel like it's something more. Also, the
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built in broad level interest in the Vikings is on
another level undeniable. But how often do I bring up
on this show? We love koc, We love a lot
of what he stands for, We love what he has
to say. Blah blah blah. Sooner or later, you got
to make our move. You got. Similarly, they have not
even won a single playoff game? Have we not said
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that on this show? Over and over come on man,
the calendar of calamity is not spared to Minnesota Vikings.
Unfortunately for me, we've discussed a lot of the NFC
Championship game meltdowns, including nineteen ninety eight and I share
my memories and even more recent every time. Of course,
the playoff debacle against the Rams. Weren't we favored to
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win that game? I think we were. We weren't even
competitive in that game. So there's a hockey fan bitter
with your suggesting Saint Louis's average. They made the playoffs
last year. Can't you make the playoffs and be average?
I mean, how many teams make the playoffs? It's sixteen? Still, right?
It is you can be pretty average and make the playoffs, right,
I think Russol called them like the Central Division, like
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wild card team. Correct, they're kind of a wild card.
We'll see, you know. They might be sneaky, they might
be plucky. But I also remember listing I think to
the it was to the Wild broadcast last year or
the year before, and they were talking about their big
rebuild and how it was going to take some time.
So yeah, they're just okay. Yeah, they're certainly not considered
upper echelon at this point. Maybe they will emerge. They
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were a few years back. When they go out of
the playoffs on the first round. Well, everybody's done that
though pretty much anything but way you'r led towel tomorrow night, everybody,
if the playoffs started today, the Wild would be in,
like Flynn, Yeah, well that cannot be controversial. Although you
reminded me we don't go to eighty four games until
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next season. Is that correct? According to Fawdness, who immediately
corrected me last night on it, I thought we were
on top of everything. We were pretty close. I'm just
impressed we knew they were expanding to eighty four. No,
I'm glad you reminded me because I did. I did
remember it, but I couldn't. I couldn't even recall which
year it was going to be. But you think it's
going to be next year. That's what Kevin told me,
and I trust him. You'll report when the quarterback gets
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a hangnail though.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yes, yes we will, yes, yes, I don't know what
to tell you. We will, too, old guy, you can't
be you can't be this naive, can you.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You can call it unfair, but I'll ask you again.
I mean, when is the let let's try to put
an end to this nonsense. Can you name me the
last time the Minnesota Vikings made it to the NFC
title game? That would be the Minneapolis Miracle year with
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case Keenum, How seventeen a while ago? Yep, but seventeen.
Can you name me the last year the only year
in which the Minnesota Wild made it to the conference finals,
the same year we're talking about with go for football
right now? Two thousand and three. Then come on, So
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even if you want to measure on that standard, it
doesn't hold up. But it's again, it's the hockey community.
They're oh, they they're all excited, you know, they they
want to believe badly, and I've nothing good. Looks God,
you see that looks good in the box score. Nobody
has more points than we do right now. You can't can't,
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don't believe. Uh, Peter Popsicle needs to let Dan know
that no team in NHL history has started the season
ller to four. So where we are very much in
the race, you're hanging banners for making the conference finals. No, No,
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I'm suggesting that if the Hockey Zealots point was what
are the go what are the Vikings done? They have
at least made it to the Final four a couple
of times more recently than the only time that the
Minnesota While did. And if you want to go back
far enough, even though they lost them all, they made
it to four super Bowls. It's been a while. That's
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the point. No, we don't grade on. We don't. We
don't put up commemorative banners for conference finals appearances. Maybe
for a win to get to the championship round super Bowl,
and or probably would right now the Vikings get to
the super Bowl. All you said it a couple of times,
you'd take it. I would the Minnesota Wild get to
the Stanley Cup Finals and lose in four most people
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are still gonna take it. I think we're all of
that in that place. Let's do this. Let's pause right now,
get caught up, don't forget top of the No. Yeah,
four o'clock now, four thirty is the Gerby prediction segment?
Is that correct? That is correct? I can't wait? Uh
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six one two? Guy rightes. Oops. No team in NHL
history has started oh and four and won the Cup
in the history of hockey. That surprises me a little bit,
given how long the season is. I think oh and
four wouldn't necessarily mean I bet you there have been
some Stanley Cup finalists that have gotten there. Probably now again,
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what's interesting. I'm getting a little pushback on the other
side from some members of the hockey community. Said Blues
goalie was terrible, lucky win. We were completely dominated in
terms of play on the ice for much of the
second period. That's not very positive. I don't know. I
don't know what I'm not saying. It's a loss by
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any stretch of the imagination. I think we just have
to just have to. I think hold uphold a little
high standard. I have a speaking of higher standards, I
have a well wings question for you, as in, you know,
wings and drummis that those kinds of wings. And I
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don't want to go into what's your favorite flavor? You know,
what's your favorite marinate, what's your favorite sauce, whatever, That
doesn't really interest me that much. But I happen to
be in one of the outstanding Kowalski stores. This was
about a week and change ago, and hold on to
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this and I can't. I don't want to hold on
it any longer because the bile is building up. And
at most Kowalski's they have a very diversified wings section.
They have some boneless wings that don't do much for
me but are popular, and then they usually have what
they call their grilled wings, roasted wings, and then they
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have what they call Minnesota rub which are also you know, grilled,
but just a slightly different marinate or flavor, whatever you
want to say. And on this particular occasion, in fact,
it was a Friday, might have been like one or
two enough, SAIDs Ago. We tape you know, nuonish the program,
and in this case, I think it was the Eden
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Prairie Kowalski's because that's not that far from where we
tape and there was a guy in front of me
waiting for It looked like they the wing, the main
grilled wings was the pot was just about empty. Okay,
so it looked like he was patiently waiting for you know,
maybe he even had asked, you got more wings coming next,
(40:42):
and they said, big matches coming, stay tuned. So I
do get a couple other things done, and I come
back and there's a there's like an enormous vat of
wings that have now been slapped down in this particular
you know, bowl, a pot, whatever you want to say,
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and this guy, it's not I'm not offended that the
guy who had been waiting filled up two large containers
of wings, because again, you got something big going. What
do you know, you're there, it's you know, all's fair
in love and war. But what did offend me was
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he literally took every single drummy section of the wing. Everyone. Yeah,
we need it's time, We need wings monitors who have
the good sense to make the tough decisions and to say,
I get it. Most people like the drummy more than
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the what do they call the other part? There's a
name for it. Yeah, I don't know about I'd just
say the wing part. Most people love the drumming part better,
and I we all do, including me, most of the time.
I think I like the wing part better. Well, okay,
you might be right. I don't love the drum all
the time. So well, actually, if it's too chunky, I
don't either. But regardless, we need You're gonna need to
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establish some drumming monitors who have the good sense to say,
all right, I'll accept seventy five twenty five because that's
what most people do. I'm not gonna accept ninety eight
to two. That's that's we are rejecting that percentage. Put
some of the damn drummers back, or I'm gonna watch
and say that's it. The drummers limit eight drummis. Shouldn't
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there be enough self censorship going on that you say, well,
good conscience. I can't leave with where the remaining wings.
There is literally not a single drummy left, or if
it was I did find one, it was like Buried.
The only reason he didn't take it. It was like Buried
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didn't find it. No under three or four of the others.
That was kind of scrawny looking. That was it. There
should be I mean, in all honesty. We know there's
not enough people working to have wing monitors, and most
of them won't have the guts, especially in Minnesota, to
say hold on, that's enough. Yeah, this needs to be
This needs to be a determination made by people just
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being fair to the rest of the community. Oh, you
honest is self police, That's what I'm asking You're not
going to do that? Impossible. No, we're not going to
do that. That will never happen. Does there need to
be a sign though, like there is for like the
self checkout lane that says ten items or less or
fifteen items or less. Do they need to have a
sign that says, please limit yourself to eight drummies or less.
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That's not a bad idea. I do six drummies. Well,
does that need to be at least a step in
the right direction, because I don't think they're going to
have you know, retired police officers can monitoring the drummies
in you know, a high time director's chair. To be honest,
they need to be packing heat too, because I think
you gotta make sure, Yeah, you gotta make sure that
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there that people feel a little bit of concerned and Okay,
I gotta follow the rules here. How many drummers you
got there, sir? You might yeah, you're probably right about that,
And I don't know what the number is. I honestly don't.
And again he's there, no one else is around here.
You say, well, I got a big crowd. I'm going
to whatever the case may be. But have some self respect,
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just a little bit, just a modicum of restraint where
you go. Yeah, that's kind of not fair. I gotta
I gotta keep a few. I gotta lead allow several
of the other drummers. By the way, the other part is
called the flat. The flat, Okay, the flat can confirm
a number of people saying they like flat like flats better.
I think I do, And that might be true. But
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there seems to be a reason that most wings bars
I go to there are more flats available than there
are drummis. That seems to indicate more people tend to
prefer the drumming part. So this concept that you're talking about,
I run into this, and it's too bad maces and
on this show today at all, because as we could
talk Michigan. But his other favorite topic is me and
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the food line right as many times and it always
happens where you know, and you know how the media
buffets work their buffets usually, right, they're just vats of stuff.
And speaking of lack of restraint, exactly, sports writers and
media jackals and broadcasts are the most gluttonous people earth,
and I'm trying to change that. So I'm in the
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middle of the line at Ohia at a higha stadium. Yes,
and I've noticed that I don't even remember what it was,
the chicken, masta choli or whatever we were eating in
Columbus is getting a little low. And I got fifty
two people behind me, right, So do I want to
be the guy that just means out the tray? I
don't know when the Red Coats are bringing the next one.
So what do I do? You just take a modest amount,
(45:46):
take a couple a couple of shelves, and responsible if
I have to come back if I'm still hungry, which
I probably will, but I'm not just going to bury it. Well,
I got thirty people behind me because of what you
just said, we existed a society, yeah right, there need
to be some kind of norms. So yeah, I left
a few shelves in there. Did you get rewarded? I mean,
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anybody noticed and say thank you for leaving some behind. No,
but you don't do it for the thanks now, you
just do it because you want to be a good person.
But I am so I can think I'm thinking about
being that guy. At Kowalski's. I probably would have thought, hey,
do you want drummis? What have you been You've been
waiting here for twenty five minutes like me? Do you
want a couple of drummers too? Or do you want
the flats? I might have checked in on you, by
(46:29):
the way, Zach writes Dan, that was me. All I
have to say is your or you should have gotten
there sooner. That's a doggy dog guy right there. That's like,
bleep you, it's your problem. Yeah, at Kowalski's they can
afford armed drummy cards. They probably could. A good point,
good point, that's probably true. Flats are far and away,
more are far and away superior. Shame on you. Well
(46:51):
that's just taste though, And again I do not dislike
the flats. If the drummy this is where's it sounds?
If it's two lump, got too much meat on it,
I actually don't like it as much. I'm not sure
that I enjoy the flavor quite as much, so I
end up going to a decent number of flats. I
just want the option, Yes, you'd like to choose. Yeah,
(47:13):
I'd like to be able to have the chance. Rather
than this Jamoke who basically had two massive, you know
containers just and every every bleeping one of them was
a drummy. It's like, God, man, it's okay. You know,
we're not there's no storm coming. It's not like you're
gonna have another chance at it. He might have had
(47:33):
eaton Prairie football tailgate. He had to get to
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