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Wasn't the greatest game ever. Crowd was awesome, sold out.
We were ready for freebird, just didn't get Freebird as
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We're gonna pause, now come back, and yes, we are
going to talk about the bombshell Gopher football news that
broke late last night that kept me up much longer
than I anticipated because i was talking to people and
reading some things, and I've got some thoughts. I've got
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some feelings. I'm guessing you do too. We will address
all of those things. The coy Perrich era of Minnesota
Golden go for football apparently over. We will talk about
that and some other college football nuggets when we continue
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live best of Common episodes confused me because he repeats
himself so much. I can't tell the difference between best
of and live. Got a lot of bitterness that we
weren't live between noon and two. To what I would
say is, I mean, can we tell the difference more
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more often than not noon to three? And that's not
even necessarily a criticism, but the truth cannot be controversial.
Like right now, we'd be doing the Dark Star Memorial hour,
right I'd be reading some gone but not forgotten, so
we'd be playing Dark Star.
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Lil b would have just left. We'd just be getting
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Program password like kind of know the bio rhythms, and
there's podcasts available for all of it. But I am
here until four thirty. Ben Guessling will join in about
fifteen minutes from out. Brett Blake Moore lives here. He's
here right now, and we are in the Bellbank studios.
We appreciate them jumping on for twenty It's great to
have Bellbank in the family. So last night ten o'clock,
Elite Pete is what PJ. Flett calls Pete famil Elite
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Pete from now ESPN one of the best college football
reporters in the country. He's been on this show or
the station with me a time or two. Really plugged in,
really good stuff. Tweeted out at ten o'clock, Minnesota safety
Coy Parrich intends to enter the NCAAA transfer portal. A
source tells ESPN. He's a two way player, also plays
receiver and returns kicks. He was a freshman All American
in twenty twenty four and made multiple All Big Ten
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teams this year. So, as you can imagine, things get
real at that point for the old sideline reporter, phone
starts to blow up a little bit. Have to get
back to some people have to reach out to some people,
talk to Burnsey. Of course, we both agreed that our
buddy Chips Goggins would wake up to that news in
the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
There was no way he was.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Up at ten o'clock, and he probably woke up this
morning at like four forty five and was a bit
surprised that his guy Koy is reportedly hitting the portal.
The other thing Pete mentioned was that he's keeping his
options open a pairent and does not rule out a
return to Minnesota. I'll say flat out, well, I'll start
it this way, as I've said to a lot of
people the last couple of months about all this stuff,
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when they asked me questions about what would you think
of this? What would you think of that? What if
this happens this player, that coach. You've probably heard me
say it Brett College Sports in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Nothing should surprise you.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Nothing you can be I should say, nothing should shock
you. You can be a little bit surprised, but nothing should
shock you good or bad, because literally everything right now
is on the table. And Coy, if you'd listen to
Burnsey or Red Burnsey. The last couple of weeks it
felt like a very fifty to fifty proposition that he
was going to come back here, and sometime in the
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last week apparently it went over to the other side.
Now again we'll see does he test his options and
come back. I don't know that would surprise me. Again,
I would not be shocked, but I would be very
surprised if we hadn't seen the last of Koy Parritch
in a golden Gopher football uniform. And I won't put
any varnish on this part of it. It's a total buzzkill.
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It's a total buzzkill to lose Koy Parritch. And I
feel most for the fans because this is college sports
is rough on fans right now. It is very hard
to be a college football fan or a college basketball
fan outside of a handful of schools that keep everybody
and just steal from everybody else, and most of them
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are still playing right now, no shocker, right So it's difficult.
And this is tough because it's hardest on Gopher fans
right now. I would imagine because Cooy was the boy
from Esco. He was the KOI wonder, he was one
of us. His jersey by far, the most popular by far,
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kids including mine, loved him. My eleven year old happened
to be up last night while we were watching the
Georgia Ole Miss game and I said, KOI Parritch is
going in to the portal, and I wish I hadn't
told him. I don't think he slept last night because
of it. He's bummed. He's still bummed about it. You
invest in the players, you want to believe in them.
You cheer for him, you buy their jerseys from their
mom up in ESCO online, and hope that it gets
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here before Christmas twenty twenty four. And because of the
way things are set up, they can just go. I
get it. I understand the rules are what the rules are,
but it doesn't mean that it's still not hard. I
just think about imagine if Justin Jefferson could announce after
the Packer game this weekend. This has been great. Thank you, Minnesota,
all glory to God. With that being said, I'm hitting
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the transfer portal with five years of eligibility remaining, and
I'm looking forward to reuniting with Joe Burrow in Cincinnati.
Like imagine if we had to worry about that as
Vikings fans or Anthony Edwards when he walked off the
floor against the Atlanta Hawks on New Year's Eve and
then didn't even talk, didn't talk to the media, which
he didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We might talk wolves later. Shock her to you, I know,
Brett don I'm not shocked. I'm just surprised. I'm surprised.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
But what if Anthony Edwards said, you know what, the
West Conference finals runs have been great. I appreciate the
you know, max contract that I have gotten here at Minnesota.
I still I'm down with Finchy, but I'm entering the
transfer portal and I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Play somewhere where word Carillkapriesov was about to answer the
transfer portal, Thank god he didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And how what was this contract? Eight years? It was
a lot. Okay, so they're good.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But college fans, who you just get to know the
guy when they're eighteen, they've got to sweat it every year.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's a problem. It sucks. I'm in it every day,
as you all know.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I love college sports, but even me, I have my
limits where it's like, man, like the Gopher basketball team
just announced three guys are having season ending surgery.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I could pick one of them out in a lineup
next to you and Ryan Donaldson, And that's no slight
on them.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's just they just got here.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
We haven't even gotten to learn their names yet, and
who knows if they'll even be around next year. So
it's a problem. It's unfortunate, but I but I get it.
And what people don't love hearing is that it's never
been harder to keep guys. It's never been harder to
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stay loyal if you're a college player.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And I don't blame the players for that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Like we have no idea the type of noise and
offers that are surrounding them, especially a player like Coy,
who's a pretty legit prospect right was a highly touted recruit.
There's a reason why people were so excited that he
was here. And Coy is one of the few players
that can pretty much name his price and pretty much
name his place.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And to me, that's kind of what this is.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And that's not a negative on him, that's not a
negative on the Gophers. I just think that's what he's
doing and we'll see where he ends up. Because Burnsy,
as he wrote, like he's gonna make more money somewhere
else probably than he would at the University of Minnesota.
But I know he wasn't volunteering here in Dinkytown. I
know he wasn't saying. I know he wasn't taking that
big of a discount. Now, who knows, we'll never know
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what the money's going to be, but he was highly compensated.
I think we can all understand that, Like money is
not going to be the biggest, biggest factor here. I'm
sure it's part of it, and depending on where he goes,
he'll probably make more. But my guess is he wanted
really the one thing that the Gophers can't really give him,
and that's a guaranteed slam dunk college football playoff berth.
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And when you remember who recruited him before and you
think about who's going to be interested now, it's going
to be those same schools. It's probably going to be
in Ohio State in the mix. I wouldn't sleep on Miami,
where the former coordinator, Corey Heatherman is now, or his
freshman coordinator here. For people that don't know college football,
he's now at Miami getting ready.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
For the college football semi finals.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Corey Heatherman, his coach, his coordinator here the first time
it's twelve degrees here in Minnesota right now, I'm guessing
it's a little nicer in Miami. He might want to
roll that way for a year, So that would be
my guess is he can name his price, he can
name his place, and I would think the place is
the college football playoff. Now we'll see. Maybe he just
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takes the biggest bag and doesn't care. Well, maybe he
comes back. I don't know, So that's what he's getting.
But where I also feel bad and college coaches have
talked about this the last few years, and there of
course not objective, like I'm probably not objective. But one
of the things that I love about my job as
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either sideline reporter for go for football or play by
play for women's basketball is I love seeing former players.
I love when the former players come back, and they
come back a lot on both sides, for women's hoops
and for football. I love seeing Tommy Olsen, a former player,
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come in here and be excited about his alma mater
and be excited about the Gophers and be completely irrational
about the Gophers all at once, right, which is great.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Parker Fox, same thing.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Those are his two examples here of guys that were
from here, that played here, that had good careers here,
and look what they're doing post their playing career to
stay involved in the community in the state. It's all good,
right that. I don't know if Tommy Oilsen goes to
Nebraska when he could have back then when he was
a top hundred recruit, does he have the same hook.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And that's what I think Coy is giving up on steroids,
because the affinity the fans had for him here was
just flat out different. I joked about it his freshman
season when he wasn't even playing defense yet, he was
playing special teams, and the public address announcer Jamie says,
you know, it was a punt Blake Moore punts to
the twelve tackle by Coy Perrich. The place went nuts,
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like insane because they were all waiting. They were all
waiting for the boy from Mesco to do something cool.
And that's what kind of bums me out about the
whole thing is he doesn't have to care about that.
He obviously doesn't, and he's probably not even thinking about
that as he's thinking about, you know, probably another year
in college, because he even said this spring, I wasn't
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really thinking about college football is never really been my thing.
I want to play in the NFL, but you have
to go for three years, so that's what I'm doing.
He's already said that on the record, so clearly that
stuff doesn't matter to him all that much, which is fine,
it's his life.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But I just see so many people come through.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Rashad Bateman, who's a first round pick and millions of
dollars now, still loves to come through and see his
old coach and see old teammates, see people that he
worked with, Like there is something to that that the
romantic in me will never let go about college sports,
even though that is completely spiraling out of control. And
we're seeing that few. But you look at every school.
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Look at how Chad Greenway talks about Iowa when he's
on the Friday football Feast. Look at Ben Leeber when
he's talking about Kansas State, like the like that stuff
does have some value. And that's what's too bad is
that that's probably not gonna happen if he goes somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And again, his life, his choice.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I don't wish any I don't wish that, like, like
bad things should happen to the dude. But that's my
that's my thought, that's my opinion. We're seeing that lot now.
If he goes and Winson Natty with Miami, he'll be
with Michael Irvin for the rest of his life and
everything will be fine. It's no big deal. But that's
just kind of my deal. On the Minnesota side of things,
the football program, of course it stings. I mean because optically,
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this was a big deal to get Cooy Parrish to
come for two years. It was a big deal to
beat Ohio State and recruiting a couple of Decembers ago
when Ryan Day is flying a private playing into Duluth
to try to convince him to be a Buck guy,
and you won that battle. And PJ now for five
years has had the Koy Parritch of Minnesota every single
year either got him back on a bounce back transfer
like Jackson Howard, or just signed to the kid Roman
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Voss from Jackson County. There's a big deal to keep
all these guys in state. So of course it stings.
But I'm not exactly sure what else you could have
given them if you're PJ, besides a guarantee of the
College Football Playoff, which is obviously always going to be
a tough putt here, even when it's more accessible than
it's ever been, and it's only going to get more accessible.
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But you recruited him a long time in high school.
You stayed on him, you were early, You talk to
the right people, you made the right relationships, you did
everything there. You gave him playing time really early. He
let him play offense what you wanted to do. You
let him return kicks what she wanted to do. I'm
guessing guessing he was one of the highest paid players
in the team. I don't have the salary cap, nobody does.
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I'm guessing he was pretty well compensated. I know he
wasn't volunteering, but you know, the thing you can't promise
and you can't guarantee, and again we'll see what happens
is the CFP is always going to be harder here,
not impossible, but and probably more accessible than ever. But
it's a near certainty at some of these schools, and
Koy is one. As we said at the time when
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he signed, that has his pick. KOI had his pick.
He had his pick back then. Credit to the gofers
forgetting him here, because that wasn't easy. But he has
his pick now this time around two, and we'll see
where he decides to go. What I will say last
thing before we pause and get to guessling. One thing
that is frustrating me are the texts that I've gotten
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about Koy Leaving. Certainly understand it because he's a big name,
and for the casuals, probably the biggest name.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
For those what's the video game you play? At college
football twenty six?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Everybody knows Koy parrots right, yes, and everybody's been looking
for him in dynasty mode.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I guess yes, Kent.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'll take your word for it as a grown adult
who's locked in on that. All right, No shame norse
should you. But for people like I don't normally hear
from regarding Gopher sports, it's a lot of them, And
what's frustrating is I don't get the same amount of
text regarding the fact that Drake Lindsay is staying pretty
good quarterback would have a lot of interest, could go
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into the portal. People that listen to my Gopher shows
had him in the portal in October. Didn't happen? Darius
Taylor is staying. Anybody miss that today he's been in
the portal for three years. According to people that I
talked to, he was going to go back to Michigan.
He's going to finish his career here. It sounds like
he signed up. He's part of the cub Foods bit
that got announced today and laughing not least the.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Fact that Anthony Smith is staying.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
All big ten guy game Wrecker might be the all
time sack leader when all of a sudden done it.
Think he needs ten more to get that record done.
That dude could have been in the portal freshman year,
sophomore year, junior year. Certainly this, But those guys are staying,
and that to me is part of the story too,
because if your only story is you're looking that cooy
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is leaving, you're gonna be able to find your friends,
and you're gonna be able to find your Reddit chat
on that one. It's easily accessible to find everybody that
just wants to focus on that. But for the next
few months, and while we're talking about this and what
I've been talking about all day, I'm not going to
forget the guys that are staying either, because it's never
been harder to stay if you're a player wherever you
are because of all the options you have, and it's
never been harder to keep guys because of the options
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that they have.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And really, for.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
The most part, the people that they've wanted to keep here,
they've been able to keep here. And that includes Koi
as recently as a year ago when he made the
announcement about this time I'm back, thinky Town love you
fans are the heartbeat that was a year ago when
Coy said he was coming back to sophomore years.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So we can focus on Koy leaving. I get it.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's fine, that's a big part of it. But I'm
not going to forget the guys that people were telling
me were in the portal in October that are coming back.
The Drake Lindsay's, the Darius Taylors, the Anthony Smiths, the
Maverick barnhows Kis. That's a pretty good offseason for Golden
Goat for football, and there's more to come, obviously, with
the portal open today and as of an hour ago,
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I saw this, Brett.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
This is not a made up number.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Four thousand, five hundred people are in the transfer portal
as of an hour ago. It opened at midnight, four
thousand five hundred. So that's where we are College Sports
twenty twenty six, where nothing should surprise you.
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Is a Parish or Alexis tonight? Do we know?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Do we have any indication? My understanding is parish Parish
is back. It was awesome to hear, well, you had
to hear it.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I told you that you were running the board for
World Juniors with Alexis and Halby the other day on Wednesday,
and you, unbeknownst to you, were also going out over
the speakers at Grand Casino.
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Arena during the breaks we were in. It wasn't the.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Bathroom I was in. I was in another little area
where having some food. Oh good for me. And all
I'm hearing you is talk to Halvey about you know, yeah,
you're back in thirty And as someone who knows what
goes on down the line sometimes I just wanted to
give you a heads up.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Which I appreciate because no one else did.
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No the way, No, I'm looking out for you, Thank you.
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Happy New Year, Ben Gesling, how are you?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I'm doing well guards the Happy New Year to you
guys as well.
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Speaker 2 (21:20):
We'll talk some vikings in a second.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
But as a proud University of Minnesota alum and also
one of us, how is the cooy perrich news hitting you?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Ben Gesling?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Oh man, it was funny I was texting with a
group of my Minnesota Daily fellow Minnesota Daily alums. We
have a group text that probably gets revved up more
with Gopher stuff than just about anything else. And I
think one of them yesterday had predicted, like, hey, watch
Koy hit the transfer portal. So then when that hit
last night, he's feeling it and said, man, you called it.
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So yeah, it's uh. I mean you kind of wondered
if something like that would happen, but yeah, it's just
when a guy that's one of us and wanted to
be here and has played as well as he has
is going. It's the state of college football. It's where
things are gone. But yeah, it's one of those that's
like it hits hard enough to be a little bit
more profound than most of these are.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Are you jealous of?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Do you envy Randy Johnson today that just has to
talk about all the players that are going into the
portal that you don't have to do that with Justin Jefferson,
JJ McCarthy, Aaron Jones, Andrew Van Ginkle that if they
sign a contract, you might have to talk about restructuring
at some point or trades or things like that, but
you don't have. You don't have a day like that
where you're just monitoring who's staying and who's going every
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single year like college football reporters have to do.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Now. You know, it is wild that that beat has
become what it is. I mean, like you typically talk
about the NFL in terms of player movement and how
much of it there is, and you know, different sports
are different rhythms of this, but college football has never
been that. You would sort of look at that and say,
the off seasons are not this crazy, drinking from a
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fire hose news kind of thing. But that has changed completely.
I mean you're doing that every year now, at least
in the NFL. Sometimes it's like you may cover a
guy for three or four years. The heck, I was
in the locker room today kind of lingering talking to
Harrison Smith, the guy that I've covered sank his rookie year.
That was my first year on the beat. So you
don't have that. Number one. Those kinds of relationships are
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number two. It's just that offseason rhythm has changed so
much that everything is moving all the time. It just
it's just wild to me how much different it is,
and it changes certainly things for players, for fans, for coaches.
But you know those of us who are just chronicling
these things as well, you feel that difference, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, there's no rhythm. I think the word you use rhythm.
There's no rhythm now in college sports. The rhythm is gone.
We're in a rhythmic shock. I don't know, you would
know you're smarter than me. Yeah, today's wild and yeah,
and it's a buzzkill, right, it's a buzzkill that he's
one of a few that can, as I said in
the first segment or the second segment of the show,
you he can pick his price and he can pick his.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Place, right.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That's why it was such a big deal to get
him in the first place. And so we'll see where
he ends up. I mean I would I would keep
my eye in Miami really because that's where his old
coordinator is. They're in the playoff. It's warm there. It
seems like it fits him, you know, something like that.
Ohio State obviously was the runner up the first time around.
But there's not a ton of those guys that can
just literally because I don't think it's all money.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
He's not volunteering here.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
He'll probably get paid more wherever he goes, but I
do think, you know, for a select few, if you
want to go chase the championship, he's one of those
guys that can do that, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
No doubt. And he's one of those guys that can
make a difference in a championship type game, which is
probably going to be rare for where the Gophers are
as well. But yeah, it just reminds you how much
this is about an open market all the time now.
I mean, it just has changed the way you have
to compete in college sports so much. I mean it's
you know, I'm sitting in the locker room yesterday before
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the quarterfinals and Miles Price of Indiana is able to
sit there and give grief to a lot of the
SEC guys. It's like, right, the world we live in now.
I mean, Indiana was always the team that I think
always had the longest Rose Bowl drought.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
There are longest Big.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Ten title drought tied with the Gophers, yep, and they
went in sixty seven to the Rose Bowl. Because the
Gophers have been on more recently and now they're the
team that he's able to go in and talk a
lot of noise and then Indiana backs it up. I'm
blowing them out. So yes, when you have the money
and you have that engine going, it has changed everything
about college sports, and a lot of that stuff is
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just kind of disorienting to see.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
That nugget that you just unveiled has spoken like a
true University of Minnesota Daily alum that had to write that.
I'm sure in a copy or two, Indiana and Minnesota
tiede from THEE that was off the top.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yep, that's when we wrote quite a bit. I think
probably one of those years. I think the year I
was covered in them, they started five and zero, lost
in the Big House, and I think I was a
junior for the famous Thursday night game at the Metro Dominggainst, Michigan.
So yeah, I had a couple of those those years
where it's like, hey, they may have a chance, and
then you're pulling all those stats out and then you realize, Nope,
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that's the counter is going to continue to go up.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
All right, let's talk a little bit of vikings. Those
of us said, why you've had Ben on five minutes?
You haven't brought up the vikings because I can't get
fired up for this one. Ben as speaking of one
of us. I've lived through enough border battles. You've been
You've been obviously a Minnesotan for your whole life. You've
been although you were in San Diego for a minute.
I think, yeah, you've covered the team for a long time.
This feels like bottom five border battle all time right
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here on the fan this weekend. Is that fair in
terms of buzz and excitement?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yeah, I think that's right, and you can hear all
about it on the Vikings pregame show, which will be
on with mus Sunday morning. Thanks for killing the lead
in for that, But yeah, I think that's right. I mean,
I think back through the fourteen years I've covered them,
and it's the only one that comes to mind for me. There. Well,
I guess two that have less or similar lack of buzz.
(27:08):
Twenty thirteen, they had a tie at lambeau Field that
was just an awful game.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
It ended up being I think Scott tolteen started that,
Matt Flynn came in against Christian Ponder and it went
to overtime and the Packers force tigh. So that one,
and then I think at twenty seventeen the Vikings went
in there and shut the Packers out of Brett Hunley
and and the Vikings defense was dominant there on the
way the NFCY title game, but it just was not
much of a fight at all because the Packers had
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nothing left. The fact that this one is in the
Vikings playing for, you know, kind of a consolation prize,
the vanity record of hey, we won more than we lost,
and the Packers don't have anything to play for, in
part because they've lost their chance to win the division
when they looked at the beginning of the season like
a team that may be a contender. Yeah, it is
not high on that list. But the wild thing I
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was looking this up yesterday and tweeted it in the
middle of day and got every range of different responses
on it. But if they had covered that kickoff against
the Bears back in November, or at least stop that
drive no matter what it happened, and they win that game,
they are This game on Sunday would have been for
a playoff spot, which means it's probably a three twenty five.
The Packers are playing their starters, and if the Vikings
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were in that spot, they beat the Packers and the
Bears lose to the Lions, the Vikings would have been
ten and seven, the Bears would have been ten and seven.
Vikings would have won the NFC North based on the sweep,
So like, they are not far away from this being
a game that mattered. And then the question is do
you look at that and say, hey, it's not that
far off we can run back to an extent, or
(28:41):
do you look at it and say, yeah, even with that,
there are a lot of flaws here that need to
get addressed. So how they view all of this after
the game will have a lot to say about how
the offseason goes. But yeah, this one is not going
to be among the greatest of the border battles I've
seen in my life.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So remind us what JJ McCarthy is dealing with, and
he will be the starter this weekend. My dream of
one more Brozemer Brownstone rendezvous, Coy Parris will not be there. Unfortunately,
he'll be doing something else. My dream of another Brozemer
Brownstone watch party is dead. So the kid JJ gets
another crack at it.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
He does. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Kevin O'Connell said today that he got about as close
to a full week of practice as you could get
they felt okay about his ability to grip the ball.
I mean, that was the big question all week is
how effectively could he grip it after that airline fracture
in his hand and the time that I saw him throwing,
and he looked good. I mean he didn't have anything
on his hand, didn't have any padding or extra protection.
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So him thrown a little bit at the beginning of
practice today and you know, just a little bit kind
of an individual drills the other days of the week,
and he was thrown it well. I mean the ball
looked like it was coming off his hand fine. He
spun it as effectively as you'd want him to do it,
hitting guys and stride all those kinds of things. So
I I think throwing wise, he'll be fine. The question
is if he gets hit that then get aggravated, is
(30:05):
there you know, something that would raise the level of
pain or the level of limitation in his grip to
the point where they have to take him out. I mean,
that's that'd be the question as you go into Sunday.
But everything we saw this week I think is as
good of an indicator of his health as they could
hope for at this point. So now it becomes can
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they get one more game that starts to make them think, yeah,
there's some signs of progress here. And I do think
that is the stuff that matters here. How good do
they feel about him going into this offseason is going
to have a lot of ramifications in the next few months,
And it's not like playing the Packers' backups is going
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to be something that makes everybody feel like things are
fine and good to go and let's just you run
it back. We don't need to address it any get
the quarterback position. I'm not saying that, but I think
if they can continue to see momentum from him even
a little bit, it probably affects to some degree how
aggressive they feel like they need to get at the
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quarterback position in terms of bringing somebody else in to
compete with him. So I think that stuff is worth watching.
If they feel like he's starting to figure out the offense,
the decision making is better, they can work on the
mechanics in the offseason, you know, if the levels of
improvement they've seen over the last few weeks continue, I
think that is a takeaway from this game that's worth
(31:31):
monitoring if you're a fan watching it, and I certainly
think they're going to be paying pretty close attention to that.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Ben Gessling making his weekly appearance on Bumper to Bumper,
which right now is common. But it's Friday, it's January,
tewod we're out a little bit early because of World
Junior Hockey, so everything's a little bit influx today. But
he's brought to you by Standard Heating and Air on
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Speaker 2 (31:48):
Picks with Gerby about forty five minutes from now.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Todd Tuesday, with Sauce and Ryan Donaldson coming up in
about ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Have you spent much time, Ben.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Wondering if JJ McCarthy is injury prone or or if
he's just unlucky?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I certainly have. I mean, I think the number of
different injuries this year, you know, does make you wonder
that he hasn't had a lot of that in his
career previously. But he was playing behind great offensive lines
at Michigan, and he's probably not getting hit anywhere in
as much in high school either. He plays in a
way that he's certainly not afraid of contact. The hockey
(32:24):
guy stuff comes out there. He was a hockey player
growing up, and he certainly is not shy about taking
on contact or even dealing it out at times. So
you know, there's been a lot of the discussion this
year of does he need to do a little bit
more to protect himself, whether that's I mean, he talks
about diving head first and the strategic reasons for that.
(32:46):
He actually said that's something Jim Harbaugh taught him, that
you're less likely to take a shot to the head
if you go down head first, and there actually can
be some strategic ways to protect yourself a little more
than it may seem as opposed to sliding. But he
plays out of the lot, and he's gotten hit out
of the pocket. A lot of the injuries have come
on plays outside the pockets. So there are some of
(33:07):
those things that you say, if he's gonna play that way,
is his body going to hold up over the long term,
and how much can he play that way? Does he
need to pick his spots and go out of bounds
a little more often rather than hitting the ground or
maybe even making contact and trying to get a couple
more yards. I think those have been long term discussions
with him, but yes, just in general, when he's had
(33:27):
this many of them and it's been different things. It's
been the hand, it's been the ankle, it's been a knee,
it's been a concussion. You know, there's just been enough
various body parts that you're not saying this is a
one time injury that may not happen again. And it
hasn't been soft tissue stuff. It's been a lot of
bone I guess the meniscus is a Cardilalo's injury there,
(33:50):
but it's been a lot of bone type stuff. It's
been impact based injuries. And the way that he plays,
I do wonder how much of that will get changed
or tailed to a degree because we have seen that
toll that up. And the biggest thing you have to
have from the quarterback is a guy that shows up
and is on the field every week. I mean back
in the Cousins Condos days, people would get on him
(34:13):
for a lot of things, but you could usually count
on him answering the bell and being on the field
on Sunday. And that's one of those things that I
think until you lose that, you probably don't appreciate that
to the degree that maybe you should.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
More likely to be a Viking next year. Harrison Smith
or Brian Flores.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Boy, that is a good one. I would say Brian
Flores at the moment. Now, I do think if Brian
Flores is back, it makes the Harrison Smith possibility a
little more likely. But I think I mean Harrison I
believe is you know, you're fourteen, He's got kids that
are fairly young, He's played a lot of football. Just
(34:53):
talking to people and chatting with him a little bit,
it seems like he's at a point where if he
walked away, he'd be set notified with his career. He'd
be satisfied with the run that he's had with one team. Obviously,
it's something you're not going to see very often. I
was thinking about this this week, that I may recover
another athlete as long as I've covered him, I mean,
fourteen years covering one guy. He would take somebody else
(35:17):
staying around here that long, and that's not a very
common thing to have happened. So it seems to me
like he's probably comfortable with where he's at and he's
probably going to say I'm done, But you know, you
never know if that changes when you get into the offseason.
He's skill a little bit of that itch. I don't
think we'll get that word from him right away. I
don't think we'll have it on Sunday or anything like that.
(35:38):
But I do think that's probably where we're headed, and
I think before as it will depend on if they
get a deal done and how much does he want
to explore the market. I know they they want it back.
I know they're in a position to pay him as
the best or you know, among the very best paid
defensive coordinators in the league. I don't think that'll be
the question. It probably will be what else the market
(36:01):
looks like for him, And that may be everything from
opportunities he has for growth to does he feel like
there's a team that's closer to contending if you have
a defense that's playing this well, because that defense has
kept them in a lot of games this year and
they've probably won the last couple. Yep. And if you
are in a position that you have an offense that
you're with that can make that take off and go somewhere.
(36:24):
I could see that being something he looks at. But
I would say at this point it's more likely that
Floras is back than Harrison Smith. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Well, I wanted to spend a minute or two on
Flores because it's been an interesting talker all week, and
I know you guys asked him about it. When he
says the football stuff has been a fit. Now we'll
see I'm sure you know the quote I played it.
Now you know we'll take care of the business side
of it, or business is business? What does he mean
by that? Translate that for us? Is that I got
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to see if I'm going to be a head coach.
Is that I need to make more money? Is that
I want even more say over who I'm bringing in
to actually play for me on this because kind of
like I said with Coy Parritch, I can't imagine KAOC
doing much more for him than PJ did for Koy,
letting him kind of do his own thing. Right, you
handle this, you tell us who you want. So what
(37:13):
would what would the hold up be if the football
is a fit and now we figure out the business
part of it?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Well, I think when he said the football is a fit,
it's the relationship with O'Connell, it's the relationships he has
with players and all of that structure stuff being what
he wants. I think the business part of it, certainly
money is going to be involved. I mean that's that's
always going to be part of it. I think when
you are in any sense of this and people are saying,
I might look at the market, you're looking at that
(37:42):
from a financial perspective. I don't think that will be
an issue. I think it's something that the Vikings will
be competitive with him to get done. I think the
the idea of how the structure works. I mean, he's
had a lot of say in the defense, basically saying
I want to get this player, and that kind of
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happens as he has wanted it to. I think for
the most part, he's had the chance to say I
want this guy in here, and it goes.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
And gets done.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
But is there an arrangement. Is there a structure that
maybe leads to him having even more say in those
things that he's got a scouting background. I don't know
quite what that looks like, because there's obviously a lot
of other pieces in that discussion, but that could be
something they're thinking about. I wouldn't be shocked if that's
part of the conversation. I think, you know, certainly money
(38:32):
is going to be one of the big factors here too,
but it's one that I think there's a lot of
reasons to think that if he's going to be a
defensive coordinator, this is as good of a spot as
he could have to do it because of the latitude
he gets in not just the schematics standpoint, it's the
I can go get the types of players I want,
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and I have a front office that takes my word
pretty seriously. So I think it's a pretty good situation
for him that way. But you have a lot of
that stuff that I think has to get figured out.
And then yeah, just that question of do you feel
like this next stage of your career, your best chance
to be competitive and get to a Super Bowl again
is going to be here. I mean, you're talking about
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a guy that won a number of these things in
New England and obviously had a defense that played a
large part in that, but also had the greatest quarterback
in NFL history on the other side of the ball.
So I think that process of I'm used to playing
into late January, if not February, just about every year.
I'm sure that's part of the thinking as well. And
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we'll see what kind of a head coaching candidate he's
going to be. I think they'll be some interest in
him I think there'll be people that want to talk
with him, especially because how the scheme has gone. The
lawsuit is an ongoing question. There are people going to
want to bring him in when that is still going on.
I think there are going to be questions about how
would he manage a quarterback, how does he manage a
whole team? All of that stuff would be part of
the interview process. But with regard to the defensive coordinator stuff,
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I think it's money. And then just is there a
structure that maybe looks a little bit different that is appeeling. Man,
I'm kind of thinking out loud about this. Yeah, I
have enough background. I think that may be part of
the conversation.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Well, we look forward to following at the Star Tribune
startsbune dot com, and certainly we will not miss your
final pregame show appearance with Muss when the Vikings take
on the Packers. That should be electric Ben, Thank you brother.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Oh yeah yeah, we we'll burn it down for you
in that one. We'll make it as entertaining as we can.
They certainly will be left no stone left unturned before
Clayton Tune versus JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Happy new your buttons too, soon.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Happy New Year man, we'll talk to you soon.
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Speaker 3 (01:06):
Did you do anything spectacular or did you go to
bed at ten o'clock like I did?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Kind of in the middle, right, kind of in the middle.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
We hung out with some friends, We hung out with
some of our kids friends, and then we went to
bed at like eleven thirty. We watched the ball drop
Eastern time, went to bed, and here we are. We're
here until four thirty today. The show is very Chad
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We are two to four thirty today because we've got
some vikings programming to get in and then we've got
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I'll be going to it. Oh good for me, USA
Finland at Grand Casino Arena. I'm looking forward to that
was there on Wednesday. Didn't go so well for the Yankees.
Wasn't the greatest game ever. Crowd was awesome, sold out.
We were ready for freebird, just didn't get Freebird as
often as we would have liked, and the Swedes were
not messing around. So here's the deal. Today, we've got
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picks with Gerby about an hour. In twenty minutes from now,
he will join at three thirty. We will review his
interview with John Breen in the Star Tribune that ran
today and as of like eleven o'clock this morning, is
the most read piece on Star Tribune dot com. Gerby
is one, Koy Parritch is two. We'll get to Koy
(02:18):
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Speaker 2 (02:27):
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going to talk about the bombshell Gopher football news that
broke late last night that kept me up much longer
than I anticipated because i was talking to people and
reading some things, and I've got some thoughts. I've got
(03:11):
some feelings. I'm guessing you do too. We will address
all of those things. The coy Perrich era of Minnesota
Golden go for football apparently over. We will talk about
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say is, I mean, can we tell the difference more
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more often than not noon to three? And that's not
even necessarily a criticism, but the truth cannot be controversial.
Like right now, we'd be doing the Dark Star Memorial hour,
right I'd be reading some gone but not forgotten, so
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Program password like kind of know the bio rhythms, and
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We appreciate them jumping on for twenty It's great to
have Bellbank in the family. So last night ten o'clock,
Elite Pete is what PJ. Flett calls Pete famil Elite
(05:08):
Pete from now ESPN one of the best college football
reporters in the country. He's been on this show or
the station with me a time or two. Really plugged in,
really good stuff. Tweeted out at ten o'clock, Minnesota safety
Coy Parrich intends to enter the NCAAA transfer portal. A
source tells ESPN. He's a two way player, also plays
receiver and returns kicks. He was a freshman All American
in twenty twenty four and made multiple All Big Ten
(05:30):
teams this year. So, as you can imagine, things get
real at that point for the old sideline reporter, phone
starts to blow up a little bit. Have to get
back to some people have to reach out to some people,
talk to Burnsey. Of course, we both agreed that our
buddy Chips Goggins would wake up to that news in
the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
There was no way he was.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Up at ten o'clock, and he probably woke up this
morning at like four forty five and was a bit
surprised that his guy Koy is reportedly hitting the portal.
The other thing Pete mentioned was that he's keeping his
options open a pairent and does not rule out a
return to Minnesota. I'll say flat out, well, I'll start
it this way, as I've said to a lot of
people the last couple of months about all this stuff,
(06:09):
when they asked me questions about what would you think
of this? What would you think of that? What if
this happens this player, that coach. You've probably heard me
say it Brett College Sports in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Nothing should surprise you.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Nothing you can be I should say, nothing should shock
you. You can be a little bit surprised, but nothing should
shock you good or bad, because literally everything right now
is on the table. And Coy, if you'd listen to
Burnsey or Red Burnsey. The last couple of weeks it
felt like a very fifty to fifty proposition that he
was going to come back here, and sometime in the
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last week apparently it went over to the other side.
Now again we'll see does he test his options and
come back. I don't know that would surprise me. Again,
I would not be shocked, but I would be very
surprised if we hadn't seen the last of Koy Parritch
in a golden Gopher football uniform. And I won't put
any varnish on this part of it. It's a total buzzkill.
(07:07):
It's a total buzzkill to lose Koy Parritch. And I
feel most for the fans because this is college sports
is rough on fans right now. It is very hard
to be a college football fan or a college basketball
fan outside of a handful of schools that keep everybody
and just steal from everybody else, and most of them
(07:28):
are still playing right now, no shocker, right So it's difficult.
And this is tough because it's hardest on Gopher fans
right now. I would imagine because Cooy was the boy
from Esco. He was the KOI wonder, he was one
of us. His jersey by far, the most popular by far,
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kids including mine, loved him. My eleven year old happened
to be up last night while we were watching the
Georgia Ole Miss game and I said, KOI Parritch is
going in to the portal, and I wish I hadn't
told him. I don't think he slept last night because
of it. He's bummed. He's still bummed about it. You
invest in the players, you want to believe in them.
You cheer for him, you buy their jerseys from their
mom up in ESCO online, and hope that it gets
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here before Christmas twenty twenty four. And because of the
way things are set up, they can just go. I
get it. I understand the rules are what the rules are,
but it doesn't mean that it's still not hard. I
just think about imagine if Justin Jefferson could announce after
the Packer game this weekend. This has been great. Thank you, Minnesota,
all glory to God. With that being said, I'm hitting
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the transfer portal with five years of eligibility remaining, and
I'm looking forward to reuniting with Joe Burrow in Cincinnati.
Like imagine if we had to worry about that as
Vikings fans or Anthony Edwards when he walked off the
floor against the Atlanta Hawks on New Year's Eve and
then didn't even talk, didn't talk to the media, which
he didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We might talk wolves later. Shock her to you, I know,
Brett don I'm not shocked. I'm just surprised. I'm surprised.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
But what if Anthony Edwards said, you know what, the
West Conference finals runs have been great. I appreciate the
you know, max contract that I have gotten here at Minnesota.
I still I'm down with Finchy, but I'm entering the
transfer portal and I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Play somewhere where word Carillkapriesov was about to answer the
transfer portal, Thank god he didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And how what was this contract? Eight years? It was
a lot. Okay, so they're good.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But college fans, who you just get to know the
guy when they're eighteen, they've got to sweat it every year.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's a problem. It sucks. I'm in it every day,
as you all know.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I love college sports, but even me, I have my
limits where it's like, man, like the Gopher basketball team
just announced three guys are having season ending surgery.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I could pick one of them out in a lineup
next to you and Ryan Donaldson, And that's no slight
on them.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's just they just got here.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
We haven't even gotten to learn their names yet, and
who knows if they'll even be around next year. So
it's a problem. It's unfortunate, but I but I get it.
And what people don't love hearing is that it's never
been harder to keep guys. It's never been harder to
(10:04):
stay loyal if you're a college player.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And I don't blame the players for that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Like we have no idea the type of noise and
offers that are surrounding them, especially a player like Coy,
who's a pretty legit prospect right was a highly touted recruit.
There's a reason why people were so excited that he
was here. And Coy is one of the few players
that can pretty much name his price and pretty much
name his place.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And to me, that's kind of what this is.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And that's not a negative on him, that's not a
negative on the Gophers. I just think that's what he's
doing and we'll see where he ends up. Because Burnsy,
as he wrote, like he's gonna make more money somewhere
else probably than he would at the University of Minnesota.
But I know he wasn't volunteering here in Dinkytown. I
know he wasn't saying. I know he wasn't taking that
big of a discount. Now, who knows, we'll never know
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what the money's going to be, but he was highly compensated.
I think we can all understand that, Like money is
not going to be the biggest, biggest factor here. I'm
sure it's part of it, and depending on where he goes,
he'll probably make more. But my guess is he wanted
really the one thing that the Gophers can't really give him,
and that's a guaranteed slam dunk college football playoff berth.
(11:16):
And when you remember who recruited him before and you
think about who's going to be interested now, it's going
to be those same schools. It's probably going to be
in Ohio State in the mix. I wouldn't sleep on Miami,
where the former coordinator, Corey Heatherman is now, or his
freshman coordinator here. For people that don't know college football,
he's now at Miami getting ready.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
For the college football semi finals.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Corey Heatherman, his coach, his coordinator here the first time
it's twelve degrees here in Minnesota right now, I'm guessing
it's a little nicer in Miami. He might want to
roll that way for a year, So that would be
my guess is he can name his price, he can
name his place, and I would think the place is
the college football playoff. Now we'll see. Maybe he just
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takes the biggest bag and doesn't care. Well, maybe he
comes back. I don't know, So that's what he's getting.
But where I also feel bad and college coaches have
talked about this the last few years, and there of
course not objective, like I'm probably not objective. But one
of the things that I love about my job as
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either sideline reporter for go for football or play by
play for women's basketball is I love seeing former players.
I love when the former players come back, and they
come back a lot on both sides, for women's hoops
and for football. I love seeing Tommy Olsen, a former player,
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come in here and be excited about his alma mater
and be excited about the Gophers and be completely irrational
about the Gophers all at once, right, which is great.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Parker Fox, same thing.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Those are his two examples here of guys that were
from here, that played here, that had good careers here,
and look what they're doing post their playing career to
stay involved in the community in the state. It's all good,
right that. I don't know if Tommy Oilsen goes to
Nebraska when he could have back then when he was
a top hundred recruit, does he have the same hook.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And that's what I think Coy is giving up on steroids,
because the affinity the fans had for him here was
just flat out different. I joked about it his freshman
season when he wasn't even playing defense yet, he was
playing special teams, and the public address announcer Jamie says,
you know, it was a punt Blake Moore punts to
the twelve tackle by Coy Perrich. The place went nuts,
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like insane because they were all waiting. They were all
waiting for the boy from Mesco to do something cool.
And that's what kind of bums me out about the
whole thing is he doesn't have to care about that.
He obviously doesn't, and he's probably not even thinking about
that as he's thinking about, you know, probably another year
in college, because he even said this spring, I wasn't
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really thinking about college football is never really been my thing.
I want to play in the NFL, but you have
to go for three years, so that's what I'm doing.
He's already said that on the record, so clearly that
stuff doesn't matter to him all that much, which is fine,
it's his life.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But I just see so many people come through.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Rashad Bateman, who's a first round pick and millions of
dollars now, still loves to come through and see his
old coach and see old teammates, see people that he
worked with, Like there is something to that that the
romantic in me will never let go about college sports,
even though that is completely spiraling out of control. And
we're seeing that few. But you look at every school.
(14:32):
Look at how Chad Greenway talks about Iowa when he's
on the Friday football Feast. Look at Ben Leeber when
he's talking about Kansas State, like the like that stuff
does have some value. And that's what's too bad is
that that's probably not gonna happen if he goes somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And again, his life, his choice.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I don't wish any I don't wish that, like, like
bad things should happen to the dude. But that's my
that's my thought, that's my opinion. We're seeing that lot now.
If he goes and Winson Natty with Miami, he'll be
with Michael Irvin for the rest of his life and
everything will be fine. It's no big deal. But that's
just kind of my deal. On the Minnesota side of things,
the football program, of course it stings. I mean because optically,
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this was a big deal to get Cooy Parrish to
come for two years. It was a big deal to
beat Ohio State and recruiting a couple of Decembers ago
when Ryan Day is flying a private playing into Duluth
to try to convince him to be a Buck guy,
and you won that battle. And PJ now for five
years has had the Koy Parritch of Minnesota every single
year either got him back on a bounce back transfer
like Jackson Howard, or just signed to the kid Roman
(15:35):
Voss from Jackson County. There's a big deal to keep
all these guys in state. So of course it stings.
But I'm not exactly sure what else you could have
given them if you're PJ, besides a guarantee of the
College Football Playoff, which is obviously always going to be
a tough putt here, even when it's more accessible than
it's ever been, and it's only going to get more accessible.
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But you recruited him a long time in high school.
You stayed on him, you were early, You talk to
the right people, you made the right relationships, you did
everything there. You gave him playing time really early. He
let him play offense what you wanted to do. You
let him return kicks what she wanted to do. I'm
guessing guessing he was one of the highest paid players
in the team. I don't have the salary cap, nobody does.
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I'm guessing he was pretty well compensated. I know he
wasn't volunteering, but you know, the thing you can't promise
and you can't guarantee, and again we'll see what happens
is the CFP is always going to be harder here,
not impossible, but and probably more accessible than ever. But
it's a near certainty at some of these schools, and
Koy is one. As we said at the time when
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he signed, that has his pick. KOI had his pick.
He had his pick back then. Credit to the gofers
forgetting him here, because that wasn't easy. But he has
his pick now this time around two, and we'll see
where he decides to go. What I will say last
thing before we pause and get to guessling. One thing
that is frustrating me are the texts that I've gotten
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about Koy Leaving. Certainly understand it because he's a big name,
and for the casuals, probably the biggest name.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
For those what's the video game you play? At college
football twenty six?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Everybody knows Koy parrots right, yes, and everybody's been looking
for him in dynasty mode.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I guess yes, Kent.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'll take your word for it as a grown adult
who's locked in on that. All right, No shame norse
should you. But for people like I don't normally hear
from regarding Gopher sports, it's a lot of them, And
what's frustrating is I don't get the same amount of
text regarding the fact that Drake Lindsay is staying pretty
good quarterback would have a lot of interest, could go
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into the portal. People that listen to my Gopher shows
had him in the portal in October. Didn't happen? Darius
Taylor is staying. Anybody miss that today he's been in
the portal for three years. According to people that I
talked to, he was going to go back to Michigan.
He's going to finish his career here. It sounds like
he signed up. He's part of the cub Foods bit
that got announced today and laughing not least the.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Fact that Anthony Smith is staying.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
All big ten guy game Wrecker might be the all
time sack leader when all of a sudden done it.
Think he needs ten more to get that record done.
That dude could have been in the portal freshman year,
sophomore year, junior year. Certainly this, But those guys are staying,
and that to me is part of the story too,
because if your only story is you're looking that cooy
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is leaving, you're gonna be able to find your friends,
and you're gonna be able to find your Reddit chat
on that one. It's easily accessible to find everybody that
just wants to focus on that. But for the next
few months, and while we're talking about this and what
I've been talking about all day, I'm not going to
forget the guys that are staying either, because it's never
been harder to stay if you're a player wherever you
are because of all the options you have, and it's
never been harder to keep guys because of the options
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that they have.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And really, for.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
The most part, the people that they've wanted to keep here,
they've been able to keep here. And that includes Koi
as recently as a year ago when he made the
announcement about this time I'm back, thinky Town love you
fans are the heartbeat that was a year ago when
Coy said he was coming back to sophomore years.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So we can focus on Koy leaving. I get it.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's fine, that's a big part of it. But I'm
not going to forget the guys that people were telling
me were in the portal in October that are coming back.
The Drake Lindsay's, the Darius Taylors, the Anthony Smiths, the
Maverick barnhows Kis. That's a pretty good offseason for Golden
Goat for football, and there's more to come, obviously, with
the portal open today and as of an hour ago,
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I saw this, Brett.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
This is not a made up number.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Four thousand, five hundred people are in the transfer portal
as of an hour ago. It opened at midnight, four
thousand five hundred. So that's where we are College Sports
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Is a Parish or Alexis tonight? Do we know?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Do we have any indication? My understanding is parish Parish
is back. It was awesome to hear, well, you had
to hear it.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I told you that you were running the board for
World Juniors with Alexis and Halby the other day on Wednesday,
and you, unbeknownst to you, were also going out over
the speakers at Grand Casino.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Arena during the breaks we were in. It wasn't the.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Bathroom I was in. I was in another little area
where having some food. Oh good for me. And all
I'm hearing you is talk to Halvey about you know, yeah,
you're back in thirty And as someone who knows what
goes on down the line sometimes I just wanted to
give you a heads up.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
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I'm doing well guards the Happy New Year to you
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Speaker 2 (21:20):
We'll talk some vikings in a second.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
But as a proud University of Minnesota alum and also
one of us, how is the cooy perrich news hitting you?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Ben Gesling?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Oh man, it was funny I was texting with a
group of my Minnesota Daily fellow Minnesota Daily alums. We
have a group text that probably gets revved up more
with Gopher stuff than just about anything else. And I
think one of them yesterday had predicted, like, hey, watch
Koy hit the transfer portal. So then when that hit
last night, he's feeling it and said, man, you called it.
(21:54):
So yeah, it's uh. I mean you kind of wondered
if something like that would happen, but yeah, it's just
when a guy that's one of us and wanted to
be here and has played as well as he has
is going. It's the state of college football. It's where
things are gone. But yeah, it's one of those that's
like it hits hard enough to be a little bit
more profound than most of these are.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Are you jealous of?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Do you envy Randy Johnson today that just has to
talk about all the players that are going into the
portal that you don't have to do that with Justin Jefferson,
JJ McCarthy, Aaron Jones, Andrew Van Ginkle that if they
sign a contract, you might have to talk about restructuring
at some point or trades or things like that, but
you don't have. You don't have a day like that
where you're just monitoring who's staying and who's going every
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single year like college football reporters have to do.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Now. You know, it is wild that that beat has
become what it is. I mean, like you typically talk
about the NFL in terms of player movement and how
much of it there is, and you know, different sports
are different rhythms of this, but college football has never
been that. You would sort of look at that and say,
the off seasons are not this crazy, drinking from a
(23:03):
fire hose news kind of thing. But that has changed completely.
I mean you're doing that every year now, at least
in the NFL. Sometimes it's like you may cover a
guy for three or four years. The heck, I was
in the locker room today kind of lingering talking to
Harrison Smith, the guy that I've covered sank his rookie year.
That was my first year on the beat. So you
don't have that. Number one. Those kinds of relationships are
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number two. It's just that offseason rhythm has changed so
much that everything is moving all the time. It just
it's just wild to me how much different it is,
and it changes certainly things for players, for fans, for coaches.
But you know those of us who are just chronicling
these things as well, you feel that difference, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, there's no rhythm. I think the word you use rhythm.
There's no rhythm now in college sports. The rhythm is gone.
We're in a rhythmic shock. I don't know, you would
know you're smarter than me. Yeah, today's wild and yeah,
and it's a buzzkill, right, it's a buzzkill that he's
one of a few that can, as I said in
the first segment or the second segment of the show,
you he can pick his price and he can pick his.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Place, right.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
That's why it was such a big deal to get
him in the first place. And so we'll see where
he ends up. I mean I would I would keep
my eye in Miami really because that's where his old
coordinator is. They're in the playoff. It's warm there. It
seems like it fits him, you know, something like that.
Ohio State obviously was the runner up the first time around.
But there's not a ton of those guys that can
just literally because I don't think it's all money.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
He's not volunteering here.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
He'll probably get paid more wherever he goes, but I
do think, you know, for a select few, if you
want to go chase the championship, he's one of those
guys that can do that, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
No doubt. And he's one of those guys that can
make a difference in a championship type game, which is
probably going to be rare for where the Gophers are
as well. But yeah, it just reminds you how much
this is about an open market all the time now.
I mean, it just has changed the way you have
to compete in college sports so much. I mean it's
you know, I'm sitting in the locker room yesterday before
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the quarterfinals and Miles Price of Indiana is able to
sit there and give grief to a lot of the
SEC guys. It's like, right, the world we live in now.
I mean, Indiana was always the team that I think
always had the longest Rose Bowl drought.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
There are longest Big.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Ten title drought tied with the Gophers, yep, and they
went in sixty seven to the Rose Bowl. Because the
Gophers have been on more recently and now they're the
team that he's able to go in and talk a
lot of noise and then Indiana backs it up. I'm
blowing them out. So yes, when you have the money
and you have that engine going, it has changed everything
about college sports, and a lot of that stuff is
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just kind of disorienting to see.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
That nugget that you just unveiled has spoken like a
true University of Minnesota Daily alum that had to write that.
I'm sure in a copy or two, Indiana and Minnesota
tiede from THEE that was off the top.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yep, that's when we wrote quite a bit. I think
probably one of those years. I think the year I
was covered in them, they started five and zero, lost
in the Big House, and I think I was a
junior for the famous Thursday night game at the Metro Dominggainst, Michigan.
So yeah, I had a couple of those those years
where it's like, hey, they may have a chance, and
then you're pulling all those stats out and then you realize, Nope,
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that's the counter is going to continue to go up.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
All right, let's talk a little bit of vikings. Those
of us said, why you've had Ben on five minutes?
You haven't brought up the vikings because I can't get
fired up for this one. Ben as speaking of one
of us. I've lived through enough border battles. You've been
You've been obviously a Minnesotan for your whole life. You've
been although you were in San Diego for a minute.
I think, yeah, you've covered the team for a long time.
This feels like bottom five border battle all time right
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here on the fan this weekend. Is that fair in
terms of buzz and excitement?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yeah, I think that's right, and you can hear all
about it on the Vikings pregame show, which will be
on with mus Sunday morning. Thanks for killing the lead
in for that, But yeah, I think that's right. I mean,
I think back through the fourteen years I've covered them,
and it's the only one that comes to mind for me. There. Well,
I guess two that have less or similar lack of buzz.
(27:08):
Twenty thirteen, they had a tie at lambeau Field that
was just an awful game.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
It ended up being I think Scott tolteen started that,
Matt Flynn came in against Christian Ponder and it went
to overtime and the Packers force tigh. So that one,
and then I think at twenty seventeen the Vikings went
in there and shut the Packers out of Brett Hunley
and and the Vikings defense was dominant there on the
way the NFCY title game, but it just was not
much of a fight at all because the Packers had
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nothing left. The fact that this one is in the
Vikings playing for, you know, kind of a consolation prize,
the vanity record of hey, we won more than we lost,
and the Packers don't have anything to play for, in
part because they've lost their chance to win the division
when they looked at the beginning of the season like
a team that may be a contender. Yeah, it is
not high on that list. But the wild thing I
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was looking this up yesterday and tweeted it in the
middle of day and got every range of different responses
on it. But if they had covered that kickoff against
the Bears back in November, or at least stop that
drive no matter what it happened, and they win that game,
they are This game on Sunday would have been for
a playoff spot, which means it's probably a three twenty five.
The Packers are playing their starters, and if the Vikings
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were in that spot, they beat the Packers and the
Bears lose to the Lions, the Vikings would have been
ten and seven, the Bears would have been ten and seven.
Vikings would have won the NFC North based on the sweep,
So like, they are not far away from this being
a game that mattered. And then the question is do
you look at that and say, hey, it's not that
far off we can run back to an extent, or
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do you look at it and say, yeah, even with that,
there are a lot of flaws here that need to
get addressed. So how they view all of this after
the game will have a lot to say about how
the offseason goes. But yeah, this one is not going
to be among the greatest of the border battles I've
seen in my life.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So remind us what JJ McCarthy is dealing with, and
he will be the starter this weekend. My dream of
one more Brozemer Brownstone rendezvous, Coy Parris will not be there. Unfortunately,
he'll be doing something else. My dream of another Brozemer
Brownstone watch party is dead. So the kid JJ gets
another crack at it.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
He does. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Kevin O'Connell said today that he got about as close
to a full week of practice as you could get
they felt okay about his ability to grip the ball.
I mean, that was the big question all week is
how effectively could he grip it after that airline fracture
in his hand and the time that I saw him throwing,
and he looked good. I mean he didn't have anything
on his hand, didn't have any padding or extra protection.
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So him thrown a little bit at the beginning of
practice today and you know, just a little bit kind
of an individual drills the other days of the week,
and he was thrown it well. I mean the ball
looked like it was coming off his hand fine. He
spun it as effectively as you'd want him to do it,
hitting guys and stride all those kinds of things. So
I I think throwing wise, he'll be fine. The question
is if he gets hit that then get aggravated, is
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there you know, something that would raise the level of
pain or the level of limitation in his grip to
the point where they have to take him out. I mean,
that's that'd be the question as you go into Sunday.
But everything we saw this week I think is as
good of an indicator of his health as they could
hope for at this point. So now it becomes can
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they get one more game that starts to make them think, yeah,
there's some signs of progress here. And I do think
that is the stuff that matters here. How good do
they feel about him going into this offseason is going
to have a lot of ramifications in the next few months,
And it's not like playing the Packers' backups is going
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to be something that makes everybody feel like things are
fine and good to go and let's just you run
it back. We don't need to address it any get
the quarterback position. I'm not saying that, but I think
if they can continue to see momentum from him even
a little bit, it probably affects to some degree how
aggressive they feel like they need to get at the
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quarterback position in terms of bringing somebody else in to
compete with him. So I think that stuff is worth watching.
If they feel like he's starting to figure out the offense,
the decision making is better, they can work on the
mechanics in the offseason, you know, if the levels of
improvement they've seen over the last few weeks continue, I
think that is a takeaway from this game that's worth
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monitoring if you're a fan watching it, and I certainly
think they're going to be paying pretty close attention to that.
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Picks with Gerby about forty five minutes from now.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Todd Tuesday, with Sauce and Ryan Donaldson coming up in
about ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Have you spent much time, Ben.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Wondering if JJ McCarthy is injury prone or or if
he's just unlucky?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I certainly have. I mean, I think the number of
different injuries this year, you know, does make you wonder
that he hasn't had a lot of that in his
career previously. But he was playing behind great offensive lines
at Michigan, and he's probably not getting hit anywhere in
as much in high school either. He plays in a
way that he's certainly not afraid of contact. The hockey
(32:24):
guy stuff comes out there. He was a hockey player
growing up, and he certainly is not shy about taking
on contact or even dealing it out at times. So
you know, there's been a lot of the discussion this
year of does he need to do a little bit
more to protect himself, whether that's I mean, he talks
about diving head first and the strategic reasons for that.
(32:46):
He actually said that's something Jim Harbaugh taught him, that
you're less likely to take a shot to the head
if you go down head first, and there actually can
be some strategic ways to protect yourself a little more
than it may seem as opposed to sliding. But he
plays out of the lot, and he's gotten hit out
of the pocket. A lot of the injuries have come
on plays outside the pockets. So there are some of
(33:07):
those things that you say, if he's gonna play that way,
is his body going to hold up over the long term,
and how much can he play that way? Does he
need to pick his spots and go out of bounds
a little more often rather than hitting the ground or
maybe even making contact and trying to get a couple
more yards. I think those have been long term discussions
with him, but yes, just in general, when he's had
(33:27):
this many of them and it's been different things. It's
been the hand, it's been the ankle, it's been a knee,
it's been a concussion. You know, there's just been enough
various body parts that you're not saying this is a
one time injury that may not happen again. And it
hasn't been soft tissue stuff. It's been a lot of
bone I guess the meniscus is a Cardilalo's injury there,
(33:50):
but it's been a lot of bone type stuff. It's
been impact based injuries. And the way that he plays,
I do wonder how much of that will get changed
or tailed to a degree because we have seen that
toll that up. And the biggest thing you have to
have from the quarterback is a guy that shows up
and is on the field every week. I mean back
in the Cousins Condos days, people would get on him
(34:13):
for a lot of things, but you could usually count
on him answering the bell and being on the field
on Sunday. And that's one of those things that I
think until you lose that, you probably don't appreciate that
to the degree that maybe you should.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
More likely to be a Viking next year. Harrison Smith
or Brian Flores.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Boy, that is a good one. I would say Brian
Flores at the moment. Now, I do think if Brian
Flores is back, it makes the Harrison Smith possibility a
little more likely. But I think I mean Harrison I
believe is you know, you're fourteen, He's got kids that
are fairly young, He's played a lot of football. Just
(34:53):
talking to people and chatting with him a little bit,
it seems like he's at a point where if he
walked away, he'd be set notified with his career. He'd
be satisfied with the run that he's had with one team. Obviously,
it's something you're not going to see very often. I
was thinking about this this week, that I may recover
another athlete as long as I've covered him, I mean,
fourteen years covering one guy. He would take somebody else
(35:17):
staying around here that long, and that's not a very
common thing to have happened. So it seems to me
like he's probably comfortable with where he's at and he's
probably going to say I'm done, But you know, you
never know if that changes when you get into the offseason.
He's skill a little bit of that itch. I don't
think we'll get that word from him right away. I
don't think we'll have it on Sunday or anything like that.
(35:38):
But I do think that's probably where we're headed, and
I think before as it will depend on if they
get a deal done and how much does he want
to explore the market. I know they they want it back.
I know they're in a position to pay him as
the best or you know, among the very best paid
defensive coordinators in the league. I don't think that'll be
the question. It probably will be what else the market
(36:01):
looks like for him, And that may be everything from
opportunities he has for growth to does he feel like
there's a team that's closer to contending if you have
a defense that's playing this well, because that defense has
kept them in a lot of games this year and
they've probably won the last couple. Yep. And if you
are in a position that you have an offense that
you're with that can make that take off and go somewhere.
(36:24):
I could see that being something he looks at. But
I would say at this point it's more likely that
Floras is back than Harrison Smith. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Well, I wanted to spend a minute or two on
Flores because it's been an interesting talker all week, and
I know you guys asked him about it. When he
says the football stuff has been a fit. Now we'll
see I'm sure you know the quote I played it.
Now you know we'll take care of the business side
of it, or business is business? What does he mean
by that? Translate that for us? Is that I got
(36:52):
to see if I'm going to be a head coach.
Is that I need to make more money? Is that
I want even more say over who I'm bringing in
to actually play for me on this because kind of
like I said with Coy Parritch, I can't imagine KAOC
doing much more for him than PJ did for Koy,
letting him kind of do his own thing. Right, you
handle this, you tell us who you want. So what
(37:13):
would what would the hold up be if the football
is a fit and now we figure out the business
part of it?
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Well, I think when he said the football is a fit,
it's the relationship with O'Connell, it's the relationships he has
with players and all of that structure stuff being what
he wants. I think the business part of it, certainly
money is going to be involved. I mean that's that's
always going to be part of it. I think when
you are in any sense of this and people are saying,
I might look at the market, you're looking at that
(37:42):
from a financial perspective. I don't think that will be
an issue. I think it's something that the Vikings will
be competitive with him to get done. I think the
the idea of how the structure works. I mean, he's
had a lot of say in the defense, basically saying
I want to get this player, and that kind of
(38:03):
happens as he has wanted it to. I think for
the most part, he's had the chance to say I
want this guy in here, and it goes.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
And gets done.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
But is there an arrangement. Is there a structure that
maybe leads to him having even more say in those
things that he's got a scouting background. I don't know
quite what that looks like, because there's obviously a lot
of other pieces in that discussion, but that could be
something they're thinking about. I wouldn't be shocked if that's
part of the conversation. I think, you know, certainly money
(38:32):
is going to be one of the big factors here too,
but it's one that I think there's a lot of
reasons to think that if he's going to be a
defensive coordinator, this is as good of a spot as
he could have to do it because of the latitude
he gets in not just the schematics standpoint, it's the
I can go get the types of players I want,
(38:53):
and I have a front office that takes my word
pretty seriously. So I think it's a pretty good situation
for him that way. But you have a lot of
that stuff that I think has to get figured out.
And then yeah, just that question of do you feel
like this next stage of your career, your best chance
to be competitive and get to a Super Bowl again
is going to be here. I mean, you're talking about
(39:14):
a guy that won a number of these things in
New England and obviously had a defense that played a
large part in that, but also had the greatest quarterback
in NFL history on the other side of the ball.
So I think that process of I'm used to playing
into late January, if not February, just about every year.
I'm sure that's part of the thinking as well. And
(39:35):
we'll see what kind of a head coaching candidate he's
going to be. I think they'll be some interest in
him I think there'll be people that want to talk
with him, especially because how the scheme has gone. The
lawsuit is an ongoing question. There are people going to
want to bring him in when that is still going on.
I think there are going to be questions about how
would he manage a quarterback, how does he manage a
whole team? All of that stuff would be part of
the interview process. But with regard to the defensive coordinator stuff,
(39:59):
I think it's money. And then just is there a
structure that maybe looks a little bit different that is appeeling. Man,
I'm kind of thinking out loud about this. Yeah, I
have enough background. I think that may be part of
the conversation.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Well, we look forward to following at the Star Tribune
startsbune dot com, and certainly we will not miss your
final pregame show appearance with Muss when the Vikings take
on the Packers. That should be electric Ben, Thank you brother.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Oh yeah yeah, we we'll burn it down for you
in that one. We'll make it as entertaining as we can.
They certainly will be left no stone left unturned before
Clayton Tune versus JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Happy new your buttons too, soon.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Happy New Year man, we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
That is Ben Gestling on the Connectico Water Systems Hotline,
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We've got picks about thirty minutes from now. But when
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