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Speaker 2 (00:26):
All right, we are back five o'clock hour. We'll get
to back to plenty of Viking stuff a little later.
I did, by the way, uh briefly talk as Brett
Blakemore knows about the Golden Gopher's latest visit to Columbus, Ohio.
I'm wondering if our next guest had a chance to
see any of that. Mike Conley, man, that was that
was That's a hell of a defense that club had.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Your club has.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Sure, Yeah, we're gonna be all right again, hopefully, uh
hopefully we can repeat.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, you're in good shape.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I think I don't think you've given up double digit
points in a single game yet this year. I think
anybody's got to ten yees so far. So it's it's
a nice club.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good to have you back, Thank you, And I know
you've kind of covered a lot of this elsewhere, But
to set this up, I think we should talk about
it a little bit. It sounds like the contrast for
you off this off season to the previous off season
is huge and pretty dramatic in terms of your ability
to prepare the way you want to prepare yourself. Give

(01:25):
us a little, you know, insight into that contrast.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, well, last summer I spent most of that time
rehabbing from a wrist injury and unable to get on
the court and unable to lift weights the way I
want to, kind of had to lift with one arm,
you know, do stuff like that kind of makeshift stuff up.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
But to have a summer.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Where you come in and you are seemingly healthy and
no issues, you can kind of get going right from
the jump, and you know soon, you know, two days
after the season was over, we started just doing maintenance work,
working out, just really getting the routine down and stay
in shape and uh, and that just leads into a
really really good, uh summer of work, which uh, you know,

(02:08):
for guys my age get older and older you get,
you have to stay moving, you have to stay in
the best shape you can.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
As you get closer to.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
The season, and I think that that's going to bowl
well for the start of this, this preseason and training
camp going into the regular season.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Were you ever in the off season at any point
tempted to say, the hell of a run, I'm just ready,
I'm ready to move on?

Speaker 6 (02:31):
Did that?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Did you ever come close to that? H?

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Never? Never.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
I think that's why I'm still here is I still
haven't really gotten to that point where it's even crossed
my mind. And you know, I just I'll try to
listen to advice some of my old vests to say, Man,
don't don't ever put a year on it or a
time limit. Just keep going, Just keep going until you
can't anymore. And you'll know, you know when that time
comes and when you wake up that morning and it's
just not right, you know.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
So, so far as you know I'm not.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
There, it still burns in you.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, competitive part and that you enjoy that that has
You're not You've not lost.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Any of No, No, I think you know.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
That's I was talking earlier today, I think to one
of the other reporters, and that was my main thing
was I wouldn't have stayed playing this long had I not,
you know, had that competitive you know, edged where you
want to win something so bad that you're willing to,
you know, risk your body another four or five years,
however long it takes to get accomplished that because a

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lot of people, you know, in my situation might just
call it quits and say it's okay to just go
be a family man and right off into the sunset.
But you know, I really feel like I got the
same way I did day one when I got into
the league, just super motivated and.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Ready to go.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Heart. You've talked about this with us before.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
As you get older, obviously you have to work harder
on your body right to keep yourself in the kind
of shape that you do. And that's when I've heard
other players when they say that was when I knew.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I just didn't.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I wasn't prepared to go through all the stuff to
work my body the same way, or all those aches
and pains caught up, And it sounds like with you,
you're not there.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, And honestly, that's the that's the fight I'm in
right now, is exactly that where you it's not that
you can't do something. You can do pretty much everything
you used to be able to do, But can you
put the work in on a daily basis and recover
on a daily basis and be able to do it
in stack days, you know, for six straight months. And

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that's the grind that the people don't see and how
hard it is to kind of stay afloat as you age.
So I think that's the part that you know, we
all battle, but I'm not letting it, you know, overcome
me just yet.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Everybody has a theory on what this team, your team
needs to do to get to that next step, which
obviously would be the finals. I'm curious to hear and
we'll we'll talk about several of them, but I'm curious
to get your view on that as a veteran player
who knows this team well, uh knows what you know,

(04:58):
what's involved in trying to go after title, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
What what do you believe?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
What priorities do you think should take hold for this
team to take to give itself the best chance to
take the last step.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Ah, well, for us, you know, we're in a situation
you can't really go out and I had a bunch
of people, it's not going to happen. You're not going
to go trade for this guy or that guy's just
the situation we're in is where we're in, and and
we have a roster that's built, this plenty built ready
to compete for a championship. And we talk a lot
about the preseason about continuity, continuity and internal growth from

(05:34):
our from our guys, from our young guys, from even myself.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
From Aunt Jaden and nas. You can go down the line.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Can we continue to get better individually and continue to
get better and the smaller parts of the game that
we felt like, okay, see last year we're better than
us said. You know, the high Q plays the difference
differences and they're on ball defense and team defense, like,
can we be up our level to that type of
level of defense and give ourselves a better chance of

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having a chance to win. I think that we can,
and that's something that we've been working very hard at
all summer, all preseason, and hopefully we can accomplish that
kind of standard as we go forward.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
A lot of discussion on the offensive side is we
want to run more, and it seems as if to
go along with that, it's we don't want to see
two or three guys go in the wrong direction for
the ball anymore. That that the ball that that Finchy
wants the ball to come to you. He wants the
other players to be advancing into the front court, not

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coming back for the ball. To give us your view
on that, how important that is and how you establish that.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, well it's a it's a former structure that I'm
glad that coaches is really kind of harping on that
early is because it gives us, you know, a way
to run up the floor with a little bit of
pace and structure with guys in there, I think their
most comfortable spots. I think you got Jaden, you got
you got Julius, not just always pushing the ball with themselves,

(07:07):
but being able to get outlets and run down the court,
get easy buckets, get you know, earlier opportunities, and even
when we don't get our you know, early offense going,
we might not get a layup, but we make the
defense flatten out by just pushing the ball, trying, you know,
trying to break the paint one or two times and
back in the back out. Now pick and roll comes
later in that In that action, you have the whole

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world open to you because of just the way the
pace that you're playing at. See it a lot with Indiana.
We'll see at the tomorrow and preseason. You'll see it
in Okay. See all these teams that play with pace
and how much more you know, how many more opportunities
they get offensively and the game becomes a lot easier
for them.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Are you comfortable with that yourself?

Speaker 5 (07:45):
I love it. I've been one, you know.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I'm as like I said, I'm at the age where
I'd rather run less. So I'd rather be like the
all time quarterback on a on a backyard football team.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Let me get the outlet, and I.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Will throw it ahead out I can turn it over
as many times I probably won't, but I'll throw it
ahead as much as I can to you guys and
let you, guys, you know, work early, and you know,
get it back to me.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
After that and be good.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
We had John Krasinsky on earlier in the show, a
regular on our program who I think you know pretty
well and is around you guys a lot, and I
mentioned that we were going to have you in studio,
and he reminded me, I think he's written about this too,
that in his mind he what he has observed of you.
He thinks it's one of the most interesting stories early
in camp. And what he has said said to me

(08:32):
and what he's written is that he thinks that you
have been more vocal than you have generally been more
assertive about challenging people, et cetera. Is it something you
do you agree with that? And is it something conscious
that you're doing. Is it something the coach has asked
you to do? How's this coming about?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
No, it's not a conscious thing. I think it's just
a necessary thing.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
I think where you see the team, you see things
need to be better at. And you know, I'm I'm
a guy that I'm sitting here looking like I can't
you know, not say something about this right now, because
you know this is gonna it matters so much right now.
I think that there's in the years past, maybe I
didn't say it when I should have, or maybe I
didn't get coaches to talk about a certain thing when

(09:14):
he should have. And at this point of the year,
because I think this is the time of the year
we have to be extra detailed on everything, and because
the standard can be set today and then we're looking
in the you know, hopefully in the playoffs we're making
a run, and there's things that are happening by habit,
and they're not things you have to teach during that
time or things that have to you have to you know,

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spend more time on things during the playoffs and said,
it's kind of engraved in your DNA and you just
you know, have Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
You got to build a habit.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, and I would assume, you know, you get to
where you guys have been and move in terms of
the just the difference between teams at that level is
they're very fine points, right, that's the whole thing. And
but it's all those little details you add them cumulatively,
that's what helps you get to that next spot.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Oh, it's such a small difference. People don't understand how
close it is. I think we looked at a stat
the other day about our offense, and our efficiency was
really good. We were like twenty seventh in pace and
if we just threw the ball ahead three more times
I don't know if it's three or four more times
a game with that same efficiency, it put us at
like a top five offense, you know, just all throughout

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the whole season. And that's a small thing, that's but
that's a that's a trained you know, habit thing. You know,
guys running, guys getting the space, spacing the floor for
each other. And that's how small and differences can be,
but they can be large in the big moments.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Did you look you in terms of the differences between
getting the final four not being able to to go
further that the were there significant differences in the way
you perceive what happened against Dallas and what happened against
Oklahoma City? I mean, how did you come out of
this most recent uh, you know, year in which you
were not able to take that next step?

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, I mean they both hurt the same, they were different.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
We got there in different ways. I think.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
I think that that first time we got you know,
we played Dallas, it was a year where we everything
was clicking. You know, we had a good start to
the year. It carried over to the playoffs. We made
it as far as we did. We felt we were
the team that should have represented the West, and their
guys played phenomenal and they beat us, and then we
could come back another year. It's more of a rocky

(11:28):
your start. We had a little bit more ups and
downs and a lot more challenges and uh and still
find ourselves in the same spot, and then you come
up on a team that that legitimately was, you know,
hitting on all cylinders as far as not just making shots,
but like defensively connected, just selfless. Just the way they
were playing it was it was pretty evident obvious that like, hey,

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they're they're playing at a certain level.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
We have to try to match to exceed that.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
And you can tell they've been doing it the entire season,
and it's something that we got out of that series, like, hey,
this is we have to be like this. We have
to get our level of play into this level if
we're gonna have a chance.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Mike Conley is joining us in studio. So what you're
telling me is the regular season, to that extent in
terms of fashioning those habits so that it's almost second
nature by the time you get to the playoffs does matter.
The regular season is where you build that correct.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
It is, And I use I mean it was no
better examples than the two teams that represented in the
finals last year with Indiana and Okay see and they
play I mean, you know, when you play Indiana, you're like, man,
you're in for a track meet. They're gonna run, they're
gonna pressure, they're going to be physical. You just know
it night in and night out, and they play the
same way no matter who starts, who comes in the game.

(12:43):
That's that's the mark of like, you know, teams that
have built a certain type of DNA and the way
they want to play. Now, each rosters are you know,
rosters are different. Not every team can play that way
because of the way teams are built. We're a lot
bigger type of team, and maybe we can't play at
that same pace, but we can surely, you know, make strides.
Like I said, if you throw the ball ahead three
more times, you're you're talking about a huge difference in

(13:05):
the way, you know, our offense efficiency even is, so
hopefully we can we can try to accomplish that.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
The other thing that and I don't know if if
John wrote about this or I saw this someplace else,
there were some interesting quotes from you that seemed to
me to be saying look to get and I'm paraphrasing.
I'm not quoting you precisely, but this is what I
took out of it. What you were saying was, if
you want to get the best that I have to offer,

(13:33):
I have to kind of have the ball in my hands,
and I can't be sitting in the corner because that's
really not what I do. I'm really not a scorer.
I'm not that guy. So if I'm going to be
out there, I almost it's almost I felt like you
were almost reminding people about what your role needed to be.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Did I do I have that about right? What do
you think?

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Well?

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, just to answer that question, was you know, just
to say, hey, man, I'm you know, I'm a great shooter.
I love to shoot me open shots and guys. We
have guys on our team that give us opening the
corners and wings. But I've always played point guard. I've
always had the ball. I've always felt that was the
best way to kind of inject myself in the games

(14:12):
because for my position, it's not about scoring necessarily. It's
about like the feel, you know, when I have the
ball and I'm running picking rolls and finding Ant, finding Jew,
finding Rudy for lobs, or just making plays and not
not even getting a shot up, I feel engaged in
the game. You feel a little bit more comfortable. But
when you kind of sit in the corners every now
and then and you maybe not as involved, you know,

(14:35):
the game kind of gets a little bit rush, it
gets a little bit frantic, and it's not the same.
So I think that for the best version of myself
has always been, you know, the TRG and kind of
handling it well.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
You know, I don't know how well you've gotten to
know Trent Tucker since you've been here. Of course, gold,
golden gold for great and NBA player. He's on a
fan on the weekends as well. And the other day
I was listening to him talking because the discussion was
about Anthony Edwards and about Okay, how do you get
the best out of what Anthony says he wants to
do the next step for him maybe trying to score

(15:06):
a little bit down low a la Kobe and Michael
back in the day, et cetera. And part of Double
Tee's point was, in his view, to get the best
out of what Anthony Edwards has to offer offensively, he
actually needs to play off the ball even more. And
that's been a discussion before. And it's a fine line
because the way the league is set up now, it
almost feels like if you're a big score, the ball

(15:27):
is in your hands a lot. There aren't as many
pure point guards as there once were, and That's what
I think of when I think of you. How do
you how do you feel about that part of it?
To because obviously you know Edwards is your best player.
You want to get the best out of him. Oddly enough,
is it taking the ball out of his hands a
little more? Is that part of the plan. Well, I

(15:47):
think it's making the game a lot easier for him.
Whether that means taking the ball out of his hands
earlier to get it to him later, or just find
a waste for him to not exert so much energy.
I think he uses a lot of energy to you know,
he's trying to score.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Teams are double team and him.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
He's having to make so many plays it's exhausting, and
he catches up to him at some point we alway
tell him and it'll be a lot easier game for
you to you just start running and getting to the corners.
Maybe you just because you're in that corner. I mean,
you're not going to get the ball. You know, the
way that the game works. If Rudy rolls to the paint,
somebody has to help. If it's your man, you're going
to be helping. If it's not your man, Rudy's gonna

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get a dunk, and then you just went two possessions
out having to touch the ball. Our team scored where
you know where everybody's kind of getting a feel and
then when push comes a shove and you need, you know,
a certain type of player, a certain type of action.
You know, I'm here for you, like I'm I'm all.
All I want to do is get you the ball.
I want to do is see you succeed. So let
him just be himself and take us home when when

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he has to.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
What do you sense from him? I mean, what do
you what do you sense he has worked on in
the offseason. I've not seen him. Everybody says, you know,
his body fat number is ridiculous, even more so that
he's taking much better of what he's eating, that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
What do you observe early?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
I think he's gotten better at everything, if that's possible.
He's worked on every facet of his game. He has
worked on his footwork in the post. He's eager to
show that off, but not not too eager to like
over throw our schemesy, you know where he's not trying
to just run to the post just to show it.
He does it if he needs to but he's still
playing within the confines of what we're trying to create here.

(17:27):
Early in training camp in preseason, he's been great, and
his leadership has been great, his ability to get guys
in the gym, his ability to challenge people. He's challenging everybody.
He's competing every day like he always does. So I'm
really excited to see, you know, what he has in
store for us this season.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
What do you know about about Julius that maybe you
didn't know until you start playing with him.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
I think the first thing, he's not as mean obviously
as you probably think when you look at it from
outside and when you play against them, like, man, I'm
not going there. But now that you're on this team,
he's a really good dude. But his playmaking. Playmaking ability
is one of his biggest strengths, and there's something that
I don't think I really probably took for granted, you know,

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watching them and competing against him, and it's something that
we really try to utilize. And a lot now him
bringing the ball up or him you know, initiating offense,
or his post up game. I mean, he's super efficient
out the post. Like he just got a lot, a
lot to him, but it's not just for himself. It's
like to draw double teams and then get guys open,

(18:31):
and he really really does a really good job of
getting us all involved.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Where does you know?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I think I don't know that we always saw the
best that Dante de Vincenzo has to offer. What what
have you seen of him? And what do you what
are you guys talking about regarding trying to get him
at his best? Because I sense again that we don't
that the Finchy does not want him handling the ball
a lot. Obviously he can, and you have to be

(18:57):
able to handle the ball if you're a guard in
this league. What that best case scenario is, it's not
That's really not how you get the best out of him.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
What do you see there?

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Well, he's he's one of those players that I consider
can kind of do a little bit of everything. You know,
he's you lead off the ball, like coming off pinned
downs and creating opportunities for himself and his teammates. On
the ball, he can initiate and get us all on
offense and be aggressive when he needs to. But his
energy is contagious and then's something that he's he's been

(19:29):
really good at for us, like his ability to crash
and get offensive rebounds, extra possessions. He's one of our
better guys on defense, like going up and contesting shots
and blocking people and just creating opportunities for us. And
that energy, uh is something that we're gonna you know,
lean on. You know, we need that from him. Uh.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
He knows that he's his role.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
You know, he's gonna get bigger and bigger obviously Nick
Hill being out, you know, Ron, and you know we're
gonna rely on him and TJ and guys like that
to to fill you know a lot of that and
and and he's I'll be ready to go.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
All right, let's get one quick break.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I want to try to hold you over if
I could for like ten more minutes.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Can we do that? Yeah, you're good on time?

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well, that sounds like there may not be agreement. I'll
be fast. The break will be fast. I just got
a couple more things. Mike Conley kind of have to
join us in studio. We'll get some work with him
and then get back to Viking's conversation.

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Speaker 2 (21:00):
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Speaker 2 (21:11):
A couple more minutes with Mike Conley kind of have
to join us in studio this evening. There's been a
lot of talk obviously about ever since the team you know,
uh found a way to draft Rob to to you know,
project in terms of how quickly he could become a
part of this rotation. From your standpoint, how vital for

(21:34):
this year's team is it for him to take a
big jump?

Speaker 5 (21:37):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Oh, yeah, there you yeah, I think that you know,
he's done everything we've asked of him, uh, the coaching staff,
He's come in, put the work in. He's a guy
that you know, wants to be perfect. He wants he
wants to perform and be himself. And we're all in
this corner to try to you know, fast track this
as fast as we can because we know his capabilities

(22:01):
and what he can bring to you know, our team
that that you know, we lack that kind of a
playmaker and the way that he can he can move
and how quick he is fast. He's got a lot
of juice and and can do a lot of things.
And he's just learning the NBA game. He's learning the
nuances of it. He's learning a lot defensively. I think

(22:21):
that's where he's trying to make the biggest growth because
you know, Jeah, Finchy and everybody's really big on defense
here and that's an easy way to get on the court.
And I think that he's doing a great job of
just you know, soaking it all in and listening to
everybody's advice and you know, hopefully, you know, this is
the year where he makes that jump and able to
really really help the team.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Does he But does he have your head?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
You know, your mental I mean some of that is
you could say you've got more experience, but I think
you kind of always have had that to a certain extent.
Does he have that, because I think he's going to
have to learn it.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, you know, we're just we're different, you know, in
a sense, like you said, when I was younger, I've
always kind of been this type of player, you know,
high you know, IQ, just always thinking the game. He
is by far one of the most talentsed like hoopers
you'll ever see, you know what I mean. And I
think it's came easy a lot, you know, and in

(23:14):
this game, as you grow and get get to you know,
reach different levels, you know, guys get better and better,
and and now he's having to think a lot more.
He's having to think how to get the ball or
how to you know, run these certain plays and and
kind of grasp the.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Whole playbook and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
So it's just kind of new, newer to him, and
I think it's just taken some time. And like I said,
he's done a great job of locking in on that
and been really impressed with the way he's been able
to handle it through this offseason.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
The funky catch twenty two is he needs to play,
but the way Finchy is you got to play well
before you're gonna get to play right.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
So that, to me, that's going to be the trick.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
You got some young players on this team who now
almost have to be a bigger part of it. But
it's a question of whether they're going to be get
the time. What do you think?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, and we got a lot of guys that I
look back and I'm like, I expect him to play.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
I expect him to play.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
And you look at TJ, look at Jalen, you look
at Rob, you look at you know, Joan and all
of our rookies, Like, we got a lot of talents
at young depth there and uh and all at some
point will make big strides for us and do big
things for our team. So it's just you know, you'll
know when it would be obviously this coach's decision, but

(24:27):
we got to get these guys to to you know,
conform to what we do and and be ready to
go as quickly as possible.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Compare your relationship with Finchy with other coaches that you've
played for. Now that you've been around here a while,
I'm kind of curious to know what the relationship is like,
how much dialogue there is how much back and forth
there is, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
No, we're tight, you know, we're tight. We we talk
a lot about the game. We talk a lot about
our team. He bounces a lot of ideas off of me,
different different things he's thinking about implementing and practices or
or games or different plays I've run in the past. Like,
he's not over, you know, learning different things and trying
different different opportunities for different guys. So I think it's

(25:11):
really cool to have that kind of relationship with a coach.
I think most guys, you know, you see him yelling
on the sideline, and he can be a little aggressive
and assertive, but I tell him and remind him, and
you know, you got a good coach here. Don't don't uh, don't,
don't think about this too much and look too hard
into this.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
But he's a really good one, you.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Know, Rudy really well.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Uh. There have been a lot that's already gone viral.
A couple of his offensive moves in the preseason game
the other day. I think it was the one in
San Diego, And so now people are all projecting, Oh,
is that is that a new Rudy We're going to see? Offensively?
Is it realistic to think that what we saw some
of those moves, including that left handed hook, that we're
gonna be able to see in games.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Is there another side of Rudy that's about to be revealed?

Speaker 5 (25:54):
I sure hope so.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Because you know, we loved every bit of what he
did in the preseason game and all the things that
he shown, and he honestly works on that stuff all
the time, so it's a matter if.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
He chooses to do it or not in the game.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
So he's maybe he's showing us a little sneak preview
of what he's got got in store for this season.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I appreciate you coming in.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
I really do. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
We're looking forward to the visits throughout the season again
again this year, and best of luck this year. Glad
you're healthy, and most importantly, I'm glad you got a
hole in one. Maybe that's the maybe that's the little
offseason message that tells you something big is coming.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, it definitely is.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I say I got a hold on one after every interview,
so that's just everybody knows.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
That's even better. Thanks man, appreciate you. Thank you Mike
Conley kind enough to come in to say hello, We'll
get caught up, and we've got a lot of Viking stuff,
including several Vikings talking points. We can get to the
rest of the way. We are going the distance until
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Speaker 2 (27:05):
Adam and White bear Lake, Dan, I missed almost all
of the Conley interview Mike Conley. Will that soon be
available on the on the Timberwolves channel on Heart Radio.
I don't know if it'll be on the Timberwolves channel immediately,
but I'm sure it'll be on the podcast that you'll
wrap up after this show is complete, correct.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
You know, because I'm in the giving mood. Yeah, I'll
post it on the Yeah, I appreciate I'll go, I'll go.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Out of my way. I appreciate it because yes, that's
very nice of you. That's really good, uh customer service
as we like to stay in the business.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
So Adam, there you go.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It'll be on the Timberwolves channel. I think we have
a preseason game tomorrow night, don't we? Yeah? Raight Sewan
Brian Kafan text line is open reaction to our discussion
with the Wolves point guard. Well, I think is making
it clear he's not going to go uh softly into

(27:59):
the night. Whatever that's saying is. I think he wants
to be a big part of what this team does
this season, and it's that I guess progression. How that
goes probably is going to have to play a major
part in how this season goes for this club as well.

(28:20):
Looking forward to visiting with him intermittently throughout the season
as we have in the past. Vikings, I want to
get a lot more Vikings input here in the final
what forty five minutes of today's broadcast or so, right
in that range. We have some more Vikings talking points
to get to as well.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
I'm guessing.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
If your polydana ish about the Purple, you come out
of the five game stretch before the bye going okay,
the record isn't great.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
We didn't look dominant, but we.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Got a lot of injuries, two key linebackers out defensively,
Harrison Smith's kind of working his way back into the
rotation an offensive line that is basically all backups right now,
or at least was on the last drive, the game
winning drive. So you know, when we get the band

(29:25):
back together, we might actually be okay. If you're Danny Downer,
you go, man. You should be four and one at worst,
maybe five and zero. Give yourself a chance to withstand
the challenging middle of this schedule. Even if some of

(29:47):
those games look a bit more inviting, look a little
more inviting than they did a couple of weeks ago,
those are all legitimate teams you're playing now.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Largely.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
The only gimme in there would be the Bears, and
I'm not even sure you can call the Bears a
gimme at this point. And that you've got, you got,
at the very least an open question a quarterback, correct.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
I mean there's.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
The Wentz fans, the carsonobos who say, if it don't,
if it ain't broke, don't you don't know, if it
ain't broke, don't fix it? Is that the saying we
won with him, keep him out there. And if you
buy the notion that the offensive line has been a

(30:36):
train wreck largely because of injuries, you can make the
argument that all the more reason to laud Wentz for
playing through all of that looking like he knows what
he's doing. Keeping significant blundering to a minimum a very
underrated part of being a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
And let's face it.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Is he a guy that you're going, Yeah, he could
lead us to the Promised Land. Probably not, but we
don't know if JJ McCarthy can either, At least at
this point. I think there's significant question about whether he's
quite ready for prime time with this team. So again

(31:24):
I said Friday, there was too much fear and loathing
about this game that you just got to go win
the game, which they ultimately did. They didn't do it
in very impressive fashion. On the other hand, that's the
kind of game Cleveland sort of makes you play to
a certain degree, one could say. And the most important
thing ultimately is that indeed the team got the victory.

(31:46):
That's what mattered more than anything. I just think coming
back from Europe two and three after this five game
stretch where you had it it was so inviting for
your club would have been semi disastrous.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
For this team.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
But I don't think that's you know, again, there's anything
that's happened to this point where you go, Hell yeah,
we're going to capitalize and build on what we did
last year at fourteen and three. I just don't think
I can with a straight face say that's how we
look right now. Fortunately, now you have the buy and
you have a chance to sort of regroup and then
maybe you get something going. You get healthier, you get

(32:23):
your linebackers back, you get Aaron Jones back. So you're not,
you know, just asking one running back to be the
guy start to finish. So we'll have to see six
four six eighty six is the bratch On Bryant kfan
text line. There was a clinical drive at the end
of the game against a good Cleveland defense. When in
the end the drive the Vikings had to have to

(32:46):
win the game.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
They got. So we just.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Simply call this particular Vikings talking point the drive.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Carson Wentz settled the shotgun low snap from Brandelle handoff
Mason Room up the middle. He's between the hashmarks to
the twenty twenty five and is chopped down at about
the twenty nine yard line. Run of nine second and one,
and your Minnesota Vikings are in a hurry two minutes
to go in the game. Minnesota with one time out

(33:17):
remaining second and four from their own thirty seven is
Parson Wentz goes back to pass and he throws over
the middle, caught TJ. Hockinson. Eighty seven is coming up big.
Caught it at the fifty and he'll rally to a
forty eight yard line for a fourteen yard first down.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Game.

Speaker 8 (33:35):
That's Carson Sweessenger, the rookie. You just losing his angle
because a disguise, and with enough time still left in
this game, you're able to hit a big play across
the middle of the field.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
Wentz shotgun first down, throws right and no what by
Justin Jefferson at the twenty six on Denzel Ward, and
that reception was spectacularorson. Wentz goes under center, two receivers right,
two receiving options left. Jordan Mason, the tailback, takes the snap.

(34:08):
Wentz back to pass, throws another quickie to the left side,
caught by Jordan Addison, and he barely got enough for
the first down to about the sixteen yard line, but
he could not get out of bounds. It's a gain
of five. It is seventeen fourteen Cleveland, thirty eight thirty
seven thirty six thirty five. Wentz won second and five

(34:29):
from the Cleveland twelve. He works out of the shot again,
takes the snap, four man rush, throws to the right side,
cot touch don Jordan Addison.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
He's the minute of the match, and.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
He gives the Minnesota Vikings a twenty to seventeen lead.

Speaker 8 (34:50):
This Cleveland defense will challenge you, Paul, even if it's
their detriment you. They're rolling up, they're jamming, they're one
on one on the outside. They're not giving their corner
as much help they're not. It's amazing. But for Jordan
Addison missing the first quarter of this football game and
to end it this way, what a response by that

(35:10):
young man. What a great throw by Carson Wentz in
the fourth quarter, A couple of great throw Wentz was.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I believe nine for nine on that last drive. And
I had got some texts from people earlier going, as
bad as I've seen Wentz, look the last couple of weeks,
you're going to possibly play them?

Speaker 5 (35:24):
Are you nuts?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I don't know what people are watching.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I again am not here to suggest he's top five,
top ten quarterback right now, Wentz, but I do know this.
If JJ McCarthy a JJ McCarthy led Vikings offense had
fourteen points, meandered to a game and had fourteen points

(35:52):
heading into the last drive. They gave the drive in
which you either win or lose the game, and went
nine for nine, nine for nine, including a very nice
touchdown pass to take the lead and ultimately win the game.
They would be calling for him to get a lifetime
contract extension, So I know you're in a hurry. I

(36:13):
get it, you're in a hurry to see what the
kid has. But for the same reasons that you know
the JJ obos keeps saying to me, well, have you
seen the offensive line he's had to work with? Well, yeah,
if you want to play that game, what about the
offensive line Wentz has had to work with? And I

(36:36):
think he's overall, he's held in better. I think we're
out at sermons the day the story broke that they'd
signed him, and I was like, oh, humming it. If
you remember you were out there with me, Blake Moore,
and I was like, Okay, I guess I don't know
happy for you. I've watched too much Wentz the last
few years. I just don't I just don't have I

(36:57):
don't feel a buzz with him at all. I don't
know why you would do it, but I actually have
been impressed with his toughness, with his ability to hang
in and as I mentioned, the most underrated aspect of
what he's done is not throw stupid interceptions. He's had
a couple of picks. I think they last week. They
were both tipped balls, if not miss at least one

(37:18):
of them. And in this game, though, I think that's
an underrated strength that he has not forced all that much.
And I think he made a number of very nice
throws in this game. His biggest mistake was that second
scramble that resulting in his shoulder getting hurt. Kind of
an unnecessary play where he would have been better off

(37:40):
just getting rid of the ball. But I I thought
he was clinical against against a good obviously a good
Cleveland defense now in Cleveland's The defense to Cleveland's defense
is they got no chance because they know. I mean
there are I don't think look up the Browns for

(38:00):
this season, I don't think they've scored one. I don't
think they've had one game in the twenties yet. Offensively,
I think they've been it's all been single digits and
teams for them.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Let's see seventeen, seventeen, thirteen. Don't ask me about that one.
Ten and seventeen.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, So you know, I mean, the biggest defense of
the Cleveland defense is they're not getting any help. And
ultimately they didn't get they got a good running game
until they didn't until I think the Vikings finally figured
out we're gonna dare the kid to throw, and they
got they got a little better handle on the running
game at that point, and at that point Cleveland was doomed.

(38:42):
Sooner or later, it was going to be a game
where I think the Vikings, if you keep getting opportunities
as an offense to score, sooner or later, you got
to plant your feet and say, we can't lose this.
As many opportunities as we've had here in the second
half of this game, we can't possibly lose it. We
got to go ahead and have it least one drive
where we go down the field, and ultimately that's that's

(39:04):
exactly what they've done. Dan, you are apparently president of
Carson's Condos for sure, not really. I just I'm trying
to be fair and I have a lot of I'm not.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I was traumatized by the JJ performance in his last game.
I'm not i as a guy who absolutely endorsed the
drafting of JJ. And by the way, that's still about
me saying he's Christian Ponder two point zero. That's a
constant theme we get on the text line. I don't
I'm not ready to say that at all. Quite frankly,

(39:40):
I think McCarthy's a lot more dynamic. But I am
worried that he might be a guy that needs to
sit for even longer. I am a little concerned about
that because it did look like it was way way
too big for him. He looked skittish, he looked like
he didn't know he was what city he was in.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
And I don't think can say that about Wentz.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
It's very clear he's done this for a while and
he doesn't seem overwhelmed by it. Even if he's not
always making you'd say the perfect play. He made some
nice throws he got. Yes, did he get some help
from JJ, of course, But every let's go on a limit, say,
every good quarterback has been helped out by having a
good wide receiver that turns a fifty to fifty ball

(40:22):
into his ball as well.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Pause will come back with a couple more or talking
points and a lot of good texts are coming in.
Is your team ever going to play again? Are you
playing this week? It feels like forever. It doesn't feel
like they do. They get the Bengals at home, that's
a gimme. Well it should be a bot that week
three too, and here we are. Yeah, well that was
because of the flukey. Wasn't it a block kick?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, there was a block kick that changed every That
was pretty much it. Babies cry and that's normal. But
if you're feeling overwhelmed, it's okay to just step away.
Never shake a baby. Shaking can kill one and four
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Speaker 2 (41:03):
Com Viking's talking points. We're talking it or calling it,
I should say the punt of the century.

Speaker 6 (41:17):
They are going to be punting with Ryan Wright from
the twenty yard line, snap right with a bomb for
a spiral holding cow with a punt by right.

Speaker 8 (41:29):
Flag on the.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
Play bounces at the eighteen fifteen, inside the ten to
the five and it rolls down to the two yard line.
So that's going to be a seventy eight yard punt,
a career long for Ryan pending in fraction it's against them.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
During the kick holding receiving team in cowenty eight.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Half the distance to the goal first down.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
Seventy eight yard punt by Ryan.

Speaker 8 (41:56):
It's exactly what you need at this time, Paul. And
now the defense is I gotta go out there and
stop whoah.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
I was cut off very abruptly.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I think it was seventy seven officially, and then it
was then they it's half the distance as a goal afterwards,
so I think they started at the one.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
That was a hell of a punt. That was a
big time, big time punt. For sure. You need a
lot of things.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
If you're gonna knock off the Cleveland Browns twenty one
to seventeen Red Blake Bore, you got to have a
lot of things go your way, right, I mean that's
it's it's not gonna be one or two things. It
gonna be like eight or nine things conspiring to get
you there. And you know, you wouldn't even know about
beating the Cleveland balls. I mean you you're a tough task.
It's even tougher, right I I I just don't know

(42:47):
what to tell these folks. I don't know they're they're well,
i'll just read you the text. So we're supposed to
wait another year to see if JJ is a guy
that's really dumb, Neil, here's the fraudulent part of your observation.

(43:09):
I'll just ask the question point blank, are you prepared
potentially to sacrifice this season in order to get an
up close and personal look at JJ McCarthy, And if
you are, I'll respect it. Say no, I start the clock,

(43:29):
even if it means not giving this team the best
chance to be successful. We got to start the clock,
because that's the problem I have with that position.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
You can't then later whine about it if indeed the
rest of the team is no longer given the best
chance to be whatever it is now, you may make
the argument after five weeks that it really doesn't matter
who they have at quarterback right now, that they're not
as good as advertised anyway, So you might as well

(44:01):
start the clock on JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I just I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I don't get that sentiment at all, because I don't
think folks are consistent with it. He's saying it because
his assumption is all those JJ McCarthy highlight real things
he saw, He's gonna see really really quick.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
He wants because.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
He looks good. He looked good in the fourth quarter
against the Bears. This is from seven to one guy
two things with Wentz and JJ one. The youngsters want
a young now with it and while franchise QB so
they really undervalue anything Wentz does, Ding Ding Ding Two.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I added the dings by the way.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Two.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I know you may not give this oxygen, but Minnesotan's
took that look their nose down at North Dakota and NDSU,
so heaven forbid, Carson produces that said, I too want
a franchise quarterback for the next two decades.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
I'm not sure I buy number two. Do you. I
really don't.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Think that's driving any of the patronizing on wins. I
do think what does drive it is Number one. You
want to see, even waiting your whole life for the
shiny toy. JJ McCarthy, you want to see it so
bad and you've already put on in your mind how
miserable he was. He has a QBR rating that is

(45:34):
the lowest in football. Right now, what do we quote,
it's like twenty one to one. He wouldn't even make
the top forty. But you're so you've put that out
of your mind very quickly as being that just that's,
you know, that's not that big a deal. And while
you're doing that, you're gonna downplay nine for nine. I'm

(45:58):
at last drive, picture perfect drive in which Wentz did
everything that he needed to do. He got good play calling,
good execution from players, he got help from players.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
There's no question it was a marriage of.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Good I guess I think it diversified play calls, series
of play calls, and everybody getting the job done offensive line,
receivers and quarterback. And you're kind of conveniently putting that
aside because it doesn't fit what you're looking for. So look,

(46:33):
maybe you'll be right. And I've never said I'm done
seeing JJ this year. What I've said is I don't
think football teams work this way where you just can
sort of give the back of your hand to winning.
And I think even if you want to believe McCarthy's

(46:57):
the guy forever or going to be the guy forever,
I just don't think teams look at it like, well,
I'm gonna ignore results in the introm So.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
A lot of this may be academic.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Maybe Wentz's shoulder is gonna end up being worse than
we think allegedly he's being examined right now. Once again,
there might be a maybe that's the soft benching for
Wentz this time as opposed to the last soft benching
last time for JJ, where JJ has to become the
guy because they're not gonna, as much as it'll annoy
guard Gie, they're not gonna. They do not want Max

(47:32):
Brosmer to start right now.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
They just don't.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
I think if you're gonna make the JJ argument, like
if you're in a debate team, you've got to take
the argument. I think it's how much more of a
ceiling do you have with Wentz this season.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
For twenty twenty five? Exactly right?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Because if they're going, let's just say they're not going
to the big game for all intentsive purposes, just for
the sake of debate, right, and they might let's say
with Wentz they go ten and seven? Is that worth
putting off? If I were making the case for McCarthy
to play, is a ten and seventh season winning enough
to put off a year of potential growing pains for

(48:07):
McCarthy that if I was trying to defend JJ, that's
why I would go, well, is that much? Is that
three more wins worth it in the long term to
maybe set him back in his growing pain?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Well, that that's where it gets tricky, because it sounds
like you're setting it up in a way that well,
then you might as well just go with JJ because
there's not that big a gap. The problem with this
whole thing is the way this team has been constructed.
This team has been constructed as if every season matters,
including this one, and they've got they've added age. In fact,

(48:41):
it's already kind of bitten them in the butt. Regarding
the center, one could say age as in too much
experience and now the concussion issue.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
And that's where it gets. That's the disconnect.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
You add all these parts as if no, we're we're
not sacrificing any season, including this season. And I don't know,
can you tell that to your players with a straight face.
I mean, you got a lot of other players who
don't want to write right off any seasons at all.
I just I saw a guy that needs a lot
of work man, and I get it. It's catch twenty two.

(49:14):
The only way he gets the work is if he's
out there. But does that make sense with a team
that's not as old as this team. That's still the
contradiction to me that we've talked about before. All right,
let's do this. We'll get one more pause in because
again what I've said all along is likely Wentz comes

(49:36):
back to the pack, no pun intended. And as he
comes back to the pack, then I think it's easier
to say, we got nothing to lose.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
You might as well put the kid back in.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Maybe he got some juice, Maybe you learned a couple
of things when I was out, Maybe some other things
will come.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Together for him.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
It was never me committing the entire season to Carson Wentz.
I just I've been around this team quarterbacks for a
long time, and I tend to come from the philosophy
of you got a guy who's going okay, and you're
winning a decent number of your games.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Let it play out. He'll come back to the pack.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Probably he'll he'll he'll revert, and the minute he reverts
you then you can make that move. And by my goodness,
if he doesn't revert, you play it out a lot longer.
I still don't buy. Where is JJ McCarthy going not
going anywhere? Your guy sat for five years?

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Didn't he? Well, wasn't that long? Was three still a
lot longer than JJ did? It's the bumper to bumper show.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Rack inscribed to buy American pressure.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
This whole talk about JJ and Carson is irrelevant because
Carson is just going to get hurt.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Anyways.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I think I've said that about five times that that
could change everything. But okay, on the NDSU angle, this
is an absolute thing. For those who are also Gopher fans,
the brozbor Bobos would rather lose with him than win
with Wentz. Wentz was a Vikings fan most of his life,
but will never be one of us. Brosemer hangs on
campus for six months, and somehow he is grandfathered in

(51:13):
on JJ McCarthy. Correct if I'm wrong. Aaron Rodgers set two,
if not three seasons for far. Also, JJ was a year,
not two years, younger than when Rogers started. As long
as they're winning with Carson Wentz, what's the rush? Blakemore
hit the nail on the head ten to seventh season
with the first round playoff bounds, isn't worth it.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
We've seen this movie.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Time to take our lumps, developing the new kid you
catches on quickly. Here you may sneak in the playoffs
and get some experience. Either way, it's time to get
back to JJ again. I get it, but I'll ask
for the fifth time. That's not the way this team
operated in this offseason. If you believe what that individual believes,
you don't make the moves that they've made with aging veterans.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
It just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
It's counterintuitive, and that has been kind of the central tradiction.
I think if this whole season hindsight's twenty twenty. But
didn't bow Nicks look good on Sunday? He was picked
after JJ. Knicks has looked good. I you know, again,
he hasn't led them to the Promised Land yet, but
he has been better than I thought he would be.

(52:19):
And by the way, to those who want to play
the young kid, he played a lot last year, so
you could say that's the kind of experience you need,
and that's why you need to start the clock on
JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I'm thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Absolutely want McCarthy to work out, also want the Vikings
to be as competitive as possible.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
In years when we argue we have the town to
do so.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
The current roster went healthy as a talent to hang
in with the league that is currently filled with parody.
Wentz has totally won me over. We're not the best,
but a team like the Ravens is currently one in four.
As long as we can cobble together wins, we should
keep trying to win. McCarthy absolutely has potential where well so,

(53:02):
which means that the coaching staff completely misjudge JJ's readiness
to start the year. Well, that's worth of conversation. Maybe
we'll have some of that conversation with Kevin Seffert. In fairness,
we haven't seen enough of McCarthy, I think to conclude that,
and I don't like what I've seen, but you got
to have a little bit more before you can flat

(53:22):
out say he is not particularly ready. Brosmer will lap
JJ at training camp this upcoming season.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Now would that be next season? Or is it that?
Is that like the next Sunday discussion. Good to hear
guards he's listening to this.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Well, uh, it's okay with if it's okay with Danny
foemantor let's leave the Vikings starting quarterback decision.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
To kao C. Listening to weeks of this is losing
its luster.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I can't help the fact that McCarthy's.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Been hurt what he's supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
The games are still being played, there's still decisions.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
That have to be made. I didn't play it this way.
Don't get hurt.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
McCarthy might be the worst quarterback selected in that draft.
Think about it, man, And people say I'm negative. I mean, man,
And by the way, it's not like I was disagreeing
with you. No, no, I know, No, you're making the point.
I had a problem with that point. No way, Max
Brosmer is ready this season. No way, don't want to
stay in the middle forever like the Wild. We're done

(54:25):
staying forever in the middle. That's all we got. We
got our guy signed, Caprice off. We're on our way now, right,
new era starts now. Nothing's going to stop us at
this point. No preezy suitter contracts to hunt hinder us.
Come on, isn't box bo Nicks twenty five already? McCarthy
is only twenty two, and I think Brozmur's twenty eight.
But we still like him. Well, I'm exaggerating a little bit.

(54:47):
He's been around a little bit. Uh, can JJ stay healthy?

Speaker 3 (54:52):
That's from Scooter. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
We'll have to see. That's it's a fair question. There
are college quarterbacks playing right now that are older than JJ.
All that proves to me is it's not going to
be the end of the world if he sits a
longer period of time. Hell, he could sit four years
and still be younger than bo Nicks, for God's sake.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
So we'll see how it goes. I don't know. Now,
we got a plenty.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
The problem is now we got with the bye week,
we got nothing but time, and there's gonna be even
more and more of this kind of conversation and discussion.
But that's good because that gives us something to talk about.
I don't even know the guest lineup tomorrow. I'm hoping
Seffert's back because I think he's back from across the Pond,
and because we move Johnny to today.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Oh Adam Field is added.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I think he is scheduled for three point thirty on
tomorrow's program. There'll be plenty to talk about with him.
No rights Hendo in Minneapolis. We don't care about the
NDSU angle. We embraced far after hating him forever. Well,
the truth is you didn't embrace him right away.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I remember because I said you should embrace him right away.
And there are a lot of Oh, I don't know,
I don't know if I can ever do this, I'll
go frauds. If he wins enough games, you'll absolutely love him.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
And you should.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
But in the beginning there was a little bit of
pushback on what are we doing with number four?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
And let's be honest, the Packers are about a thousand
times more hated in this town than end.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
YESU, no question, that's not even closer. Right with that
one hundred percent. I think guards he's back tomorrow. I
think I appreciate the help. Brett Blake Moore podcast will
be available later. A lot of good Vikings, talking points,
Mike Conley in studio with us, Ben Lieber with US.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Today and what else do we have?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Guest Wise, that was it, right, Mike Conley, Yeah, Conley
liber yeah, because the first hour was why and Johnny?

Speaker 3 (56:37):
How could I ever forget?

Speaker 5 (56:38):
Johnny?

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Three