October 7, 2025 • 46 mins
Dan continues some of the Vikings quarterback discussion and Kaprisov contract talk before our buddy Ron Coomer joins from Chicago to talk Major League Baseball Playoffs and what he sees from a far from his old team the Twins.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Minnesota Apple Grower Association board member here, I just want
to know which orchard Adam is calling in from. I'm
sorry I did not establish it. I don't think he
would tell you. I don't think he should because then,
like I said, all the folks who have opinions on
the quarterback position would be saying, Adam, here's what the
Vikings should do, right, I mean, let's be honest. So
I think it's unlikely. But it's a good apple orchard day, nice, crisp, yep, breezy,
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you know, sunshiny. Well in the advantage when you have
any seven degrees a flexible job. That's just you can
pull up Tuesday at three o'clock, right, So it's probably
going to be pretty quiet there. I always think the
best time to go to an orchard is during a
Vikings game on a Sunday because people are watching the
game just DVR. That's that's my theory on everything. Watch
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the orchard, and you could say that about any places.
Mall of Hysteria is actually, you know, decent to navigate.
When the Vikings are playing, there's no better time to
go to the mall of his just DV are it?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Go?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Get your errands done and watch it later. And by
the way, I'd go to the pine tree apple orchard.
That would be my pick. Hi U nine five two
guy writes, Dan, you're spot on with your assessment of
Mcjesus extension, contrasting with capriceofs. The Athletic outlined it in
a peace last night. The wild were on the loser
side of the ledger given the bounty they paid the
Wilds ninety seven versus the Oilers ninety seven. By ps,
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the over under for capriceoff games played this year is
at fifty nine point five. That is that a cheap
shot or is that a legitimate factual? Do they? I
assume that's established by they have those nine and a half.
Maybe not Vegas, but some of the yeah right, Vegas
maybe would not not do it. So missing twenty two
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twenty three games, that's too many for the quarter of
the season. Again, I don't want to have that happen again.
Five h seven guys standing tall for the individual suggesting
that it's only me perpetuating the code of quarterback controversy angle.
He's alluding to the counterfactuals about Rogers and Darnold that
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you and Common are both talking about day after day.
It's a frustrating media jackal narrative because if they had
kept Arnold or signed Rogers, y'all probably would have spent
this many segments complaining that we didn't give our new
quarterback jj A try. I would say, if I was seven, guy,
you can, if it's easier to dismiss me as the
boogeyman in this case, go ahead, you can. You can
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lie to yourself and say that's what I would have said.
But I'm on record. It's not that hard to find
as saying I would have taken the plunge on Aaron
Rodgers and the Vikings had the opportunity to do that. Now,
that doesn't mean if they'd done it and Rogers played poorly,
that I was going to deny that he was playing
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poorly and that it doesn't look like a good decision.
But five h seven guy, I don't want to disappoint you.
But no, that's not the way this game is necessarily played,
that we just will you just reverse fields and you
go the other other way. What I might say is
the JJA people were right if Rogers struggled and there
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was a soap opera here, But you can't have it
both ways, because I'm not trying to have it both ways.
I on the front end all Long said I would
I would take the plunge on Aaron Rodgers. Now I
didn't say take the plunge on Darnold given how much
money had ended up being Danny Dimes. I don't know.
I mean, I guess I didn't even realize. I think
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Seft's going to join us tomorrow, and maybe we can
talk about this with him. That allegedly the Vikings did
offer him more money to stay than he ultimately took
with the Colts, but that Dimes, who, by the way,
right now the number one in QBR, the number one
in two ranked quarterbacks in the entire league are Dimes
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and Darnald. Now, Donald did throw a bad interception. He
played brilliantly against Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay through a late
like his worst interception of the year. He has not
made very many of those faux pause. It's a bad interception,
but I think they're one two if I'm not mistaken.
In QBR, there are people who are trying to use
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Carson Wentz's QBR against them in saying you really don't
have to keep playing him because he ranks twenty sixth,
one ahead of I should say one behind A raj
who is at forty four point five. Carson Wentz is
forty one point five. Not great if you believe in
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the QBR standard, although I'm more interested in having won
two out of three. However, if you want to believe
in the QBR, JJ McCarthy he's QBR is so bad
it's not even on the board. Yeah, I don't even
see him. He's at twenty one six. That's five points
worse than the quarterback ranked number thirty two right now,
Cam Warton, who's not been very good, who's not been
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very good. Had he had some moments in his last game,
but has not been very good either. So and Cincinnati
Bengal Joe Flacco, how about that, sine, No, it's crazy.
That's a division trade, right, it would be, so it
must be Flacco has given too much flack to Brown's
officials about the demotion because he didn't He said he
wasn't ready for it, wasn't pleased about it, which is bizarre,
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extremely bizarre. Beyond that, I just don't think he has
much left now. Maybe if you're if you're Cincinnati, you say,
Chipchair in a chance, We're just we're desperate, so we'll
take a look at him because Browning, I guess, has
not been very impressive, right, correct, Yeah, so you give
yourself another another option. I don't blame them for scrambling
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to give it a try. I just think he's pretty
close to done. He's forty years old, he's been washed
for a while. I think that even last week. Yeah,
it wasn't that game here. Yes, And he didn't even
look interested to me. I know he's Joe cool, but
he just looked like, no Ah, yeah, I try that
pass now. Maybe I will, maybe I won't. I just
didn't think anything. I didn't think he was bothered by anything.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So I we'll see where it goes. But I'm not
very optimistic for him or for the Bengals, although they
again are in a very difficult spot. When the McCarthy
era fails here and he moves on to his next
team and Zach Halverson follows him, can I have his
job on the morning show? No better time here? Hold on?
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The follow up text of that would be, what do
you think Halve's job on the Morning Show?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Is?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Like, what do you think how he does. That's a
very good point. Yeah, you're right, and then we'll square
it up with what he does. Dan, I haven't heard
you openly say you think Wentz is going to lead
the Vikers to super Bowl. If you don't say that
and don't believe that, there's absolutely no reason to start
once McCarthy is healthy, I've heard this argument before. I
don't buy it. This argument conveniently ignores is even if
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I think Carson Wentz is unluck is not going to
leave them to lead them to the super Bowl. I
have to be convinced and the coaches have to be
convinced that this quarterback of the future is not overwhelmed
in the present enough where with this core of players,
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you actually serve everybody's interest trying to play it out
a little bit longer. Now, if you come to the conclusion,
now we figured some things out, next time he plays,
he's going to be in a lot different place. I
don't know how you can guarantee that, but you convince
yourself of that. Okay, But I'm not buying The super
Bowl threshold thing means nothing to me because it leaves
out the important piece. I can think McCarthy is the
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man eventually, and still wonder based on what I saw,
whether they asked him to do too much too soon,
and that he actually might be one of those guys,
given his age and even the kind of offense that
he led in college, that he might need a little
bit more time than even Koc thought he did sitting
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and watching and practicing and so forth. Now he can
come back against Philly and be great. You know, I mean,
who's to say I rule nothing out? And I've said
all along I tend to think these things take care
of themselves. The sooner or later Wentz will come back
to the pack enough that it makes the decision a
lot easier, and you go ahead and get going with
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you know, you start the future right. Then that kind
of seems like how Chaos is playing it too right
when asked about it, basically doing that, I'm excited to
get back on I'm excited we got to win and
we'll get back to the States. Essentially, he's not really engaging. Well,
here's what's funny about these guys. And we'll talk to
Kevin about Seafford about this tomorrow. They've gone from the
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feeling I've gotten on this trip now that it's over
is it did kind of catch up with us. Oh,
they get a little crazy. It got too much. And
I'm going, well, I have very little sympathy because these guys,
the smartest men in the room, said, oh we got this.
We know no, no, no, no, we know how to do
this May three exactly. Let's just play a month there.
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So I have a hard time having much sympathy for
them now going, ah, this is a slog. This is
more difficult. And were you with me? You were on
last Friday, right off Friday, so we talked about this Friday.
We're gonna get into it sea for tomorrow. I had
texted you about it, an you know. The tension included
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maybe the first significant brush up between KOC and the
media jackals in an almost zimmerized kind of a way
as we started earlier in the week with some of
Koc's comments. And I'm curious to get follow up on
it because it sounds like he was he was bitter
with the Sue Han column about the suggestion, which SUEHNN
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knocked down. He didn't he didn't perpetuate it, but he
did acknowledge it that fans had that McCarthy was demoted,
that he's not really hurt, and he took offense to that,
even though, as I said in the column, I don't
think he tried to fan the flames of it. And
then apparently there are a couple other things that have
been either written or said that had koc In almost zimmerized,
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like zimmerized like mode. Yeah, I want to get more
detail on that. I even thought you could see when
he was mad about not being able to get to
time out right away at the end of the game,
the hail Mary, I thought he was as sarcastic as
he's ever been with the official Yeah, that was a
dude that just wanted to get the hell out of Europe.
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That was not That was not the chaos that we
just completely You're one hundred percent ride. I had the
same thought. I to list to my own bed. I'm
sick of the countryside, I'm sick of the accents, I'm
sick of the fish and chips. I just want to
go home. I'm sick of having injured guys and having
to worry about passports. Let me just get home because
this sucks. That's what I thought. How about one of
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your key players not showing up for a walkthrough, which
I still can't believe. Do you so it was a
walkthrough during the week? Is that what it was? I
believe so, yes, that's because do you know how impossible
it is a special walkthrough when you're sequestered in a
countryside bill. I still haven't had it resolved, so maybe
Seffert will be able to resolve that as well. I
do have a good question to come back with for
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you that we talked about yesterday, because I want to
get your view on a line of thinking that has
been passed along a couple times regarding the Carson Wentz controversy.
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The contempt towards Wentz is age and his roots. Minnesotan's
deep down view. North Dakota is the annoying little brother.
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New York looks down on Chicago. Chicago looks down on Minneapolis.
Minneapolis looks down on Fargo. Hold on, let me scroll
down here to get the rest of this one. Do
we Fargo looks down on mine? Not mine? Not looks
down on Estevan. It's c after green Bay is Bismarck.
That's not in here. Can't even read, I can't. This
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may have been a dictated text. Several people have advanced
this theory. Do you think there's anything to it? Because
I do know for a fact that some of the
Wents love some of the Wentz win a bageo. Love
goes beyond just watching him play now it's he's our guy. Yeah.
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On the other end, that there's love is blind man,
and I definitely think that exists. I have tended to
dismiss the notion that Minnesota fans are less likely to
even grudgingly pass along praise to Wentz because of his roots,
even though he grew up apparently cheering for the Purple.
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Is there anything Do you think there's anything to that?
Conspiracy theory. I mean maybe with a very small faction,
but I feel like we claim everybody. When it's at
a national level, we do. We can't die. Has he
dined and taken credit for Wentz? Probably because that's what
That's what I'm thinking. I think it would be the
opposite that the fact that he's just from our regions somewhere,
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that we would be just giddy that he's not getting
run for. Who else would he have cheered for the
Minnesota Vikings of course, so why wouldn't we love him? Yeah?
I had not heard that one. They showed him at
the UH Adrian Peterson Historic Rushing Day. Yeah, he had
some great pictures. Was the Chargers, wasn't I was at that?
Speaking of Norv Turner, who made an appearance in the
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show earlier that he was the head coach. We found
We found out early in the show that the only
reason Adam Thielen loves black coffee, no sugar, no cream, naked,
no nothing is the nor The average Norv Turner meeting
went on so long and was so over the top.
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That's brilliant that he that's he said, I got to
do something, so he started. That's when he started drinking
black coffee cracks me up. That's pretty late. I guess
I'm trying to say, yeah, he made it so long, Yeah,
midway through his career. It's hilarious. Here's the the the
obbserve the take that I just I just don't understand
what people are smoking. A Dylan from North Branch rights.
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You guys are outside your minds if you don't think
JJ is starting. We put off all of our eggs
in the JJ basket. We have to play him. Why
what does that mean? No, the fact is they didn't
put all their eggs in his basket. They actually put
all their eggs in the basket of several veteran players
they want out and sign in free agency. This notion
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that if you don't play him now, you're never gonna
find out what he can be I just categorically reject.
I think this league is too much about winning and
losing to necessarily throw out the possibility that Wentz ends
up playing a little longer. I mean the eggs just
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because the eggs are all that, all our eggs are
in the JJ basket eventually, Why do we think check
JJ McCarthy's age. Isn't he like about seven years younger
than brosmer about. I mean, he's still one of the
youngest players in the national football He looks twelve. So
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I categorically reject this notion that you have to play him.
You might have to play him eventually, it's a matter
of when you want to start the clock. And did
you see what Mark Craig wrote, No, do you remember
the Well, I don't know if Bud Grant said it first,
but he said it the best ability is availability. Oh yeah,
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it's a great line. It's a great line. It's been overused,
but it says a lot. It's true. And Craig, let
me see if I can find the exact quote, because
and he's going to be in the meat grinder also
at the mansion with the mcgobos for sure. Let me
see if I can find it here. Where's the Oh
was this the piece? Yeah? I think this was the
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piece here regarding Jju or his quarterback class, I guess
I should say was it in this piece? Maybe it
was someplace else. I'll find it. But basically he mentions
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that from that quarterback class, everybody else has played a
bunch and through no fault of his own. I mean,
I'm saying, not saying, he's saying he's not legitimately injured.
JJ has it has easily the least amount of time played,
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and that at the very least has made it difficult
to evaluate him properly. So again, I don't think anybody is.
Why can't I find it was? Did he write it
or was it? I can't remember where it was, but
it was he was trying to do. Craig was kind
of trying to do the at roughly a quarter the
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way through this season, A look at the division, Yeah,
here it is one of McCarthy is one of most
valuable player first quarter coin to Mark Craig, NFC North
Jared Goff. You can't argue with it. He's joined Peyton
Manning as the only quarterbacks ever to complete at least
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seventy five percent of their passes with at least twelve
touchdowns and a passer rating of at least one hundred
and twenty through five games. Biggest disappointment JJ McCarthy. One
of six quarterbacks drafted in the top twelve a year ago.
McCarthy has been healthy enough for two starts too. The
other five has started to combine eighty seven games the
immortal words of Bud Grant. The best ability is availability.
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Never ranked tour around these parts. Now, obviously he's going
to get healthier and he's going he's going to get
a chance to play. It's just a matter of when.
And I think it'll come in in good time. There
are people out there who think they they already have
concluded that JJ is Christian Ponder two point zero. I
just got a text about that. I'm not in that group.
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I'm not ready to say that at all. I think
he's a more dynamic player, speaking by the way of
dynamic quarterbacks. Scary stuff to start saying that, by the way,
we need to that's reckless, to be careful, it's early,
it's wait, it's premature, for sure, But that's just the
trauma of Christian Ponder, especially things that are easily correctable.
What about and this is maybe a bit of a
non sequitur, but I how about the Mark Sanchez story.
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Is that one of the most believable bizarre stories in history. Yes,
where delivery truck guy is there, he's trying to do
sprints and he's bitter that the car that the truck
is parked there and loses his mind. Presumably alcohol driven,
right yep, and and ends up getting an altercation with
of him and then he gets stabbed. But yet I
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think the most serious charges at least right now are
against him Sanchez. Yes, for the injuries that he inflicted
on the other individual. I think first mastem and then
he stabbed them. I'm just trying to figure out. It's
past midnight. I guess, well, alcohol is the answer. That's
the answer. Yeah, you're right, you're going, well, what do
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you care about a truck, a delivery truck being in
a in an alley?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Where or what?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And somehow he loses his mind over that. How do
he and his life has now changed forever?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It is.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It's it's the strange. And everybody who says they know
Sanchez says, well, this isn't This isn't the guy. I mean,
this doesn't make any sense. It's bizarre. It's one of
the more bizarre stories we will see this year. And
obviously his I assume his analysts career is probably over
at least for now, tough to come back from. And
he's the night before he's going to do the Colts game, right,
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he's an Indianapolis to do with the Colts game Danny
Dimes and they have to fly Brady Quinn in Is that?
What is that what they did? H yeah, yep, he
was at Michigan, so I'm sure he just kind of
hopped over right. All right, let's make this the bottom
of our pause, and let's talk some baseball. Let's get
and more importantly, let's just get caught up with our
old friend Ron Coomer for the first time in quite
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some time. Louis, as I said, will join in the
five o'clock hour. Stay tune time now for the Vikings
Report on the Fan, presented by Miller Lte. Vikings wide
receiver Adam Thielen joins danver reroom next. Well, believe it
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or not, Twins fans, baseball is still being played. We
feel about as disconnected from it as one can. Yes,
we can do. It feels like it's another lifetime. It
feels like it's been months since the twins unfortunate season ended.
But our next guest is here to testify that there
might be a tomorrow or there is a post season.
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Although time's a wasting for the team. He covers the
Chicago Cubs. Ron Coomer kind of enough to join us
via the Connectico Water Systems Hotline Coomb Dog.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
How are you, sir, Danny. I am doing I was
doing much better yesterday about this time than I am. Yeah,
I will tell you that, but it is what it is.
You know. We we've made postseason, won the first rounds
of the wild Card, and we've run into a little
bit of a buzz. So with Milwaukee, they played a
couple of good games and we're back in Chicago, so
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we will play tomorrow here at Wrigley. So you know,
we got to win three in a row. It's not
out of the realm of possibility, but just Milwaukee group's
pretty good. But I am doing phenomenally well. I couldn't be,
you know, just so good, very good.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I will tell you I texted you the other night.
I'm watching the end of the Cubs clincher in the
previous round, and I said, you know, there's ways these days,
especially through serious XM, to get the local call from
you guys on the game. And you know we're friends,
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we go way back a long time. But I have
no reason to suck up to you right now. I'm
just telling you you and Pat Hughes, I think it's
as good a local radio broadcast as you can get.
Because what struck me I listened for about an inning
and a half. In fact, I went backwards a little
bit so I could hear the call, you know, of
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the celebratory moment and so forth. And what struck me is,
you know, you guys have been working together, and I
think for a while it's just so seamless. You guys
have figured each other out, which, as you know, is
eighty percent of the battle. When you're on with somebody else,
he sets you up nicely. You play off each other
so well. I don't know if it's as much fun
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doing it as it sounds, but it's just it's a
great broadcast.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Oh thank you, that's nice to say. It is. We
we've become very close friends. We were friends before it
ever started, and we've just kind of, you know, become buddies.
And you couldn't meet two more opposite people on the planet.
That's my partner and I. But I think that's part
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of the cool love of the whole thing. You know,
we just bring something totally different to each other, to
the broadcast, to our cub fans, to the Cubs organization,
and I think we we really we like what we're doing.
You know, at the end of the day, I think
then when you go, you know, you you can hear
it in your voice and justin and when you when
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you're doing things that you really like to do, at
the end of the then it's going to be better.
And I couldn't think of anything better then going to
Wrigley Field every day and calling out my office. I've
been going there since I was four years old, and
so you know, I love Minnesota. I love the Twins.
I followed them, and you know, I mean they gave
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me my chance in the big leagues, both as a
player and as a broadcaster. I mean, you know, so
two careers work. So you know, it's thanking them for
everything that they've done for me. But I grew up
as a kid going to Wrigley and now I'm going
there every day, and you know, you just it's it's
some kind of fun and we get a good team
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to cover. But with that being said, Kat and I
are buddies, and I think that's the thing that you know,
we know baseball, but we're friends, and that's that's a
good thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well again, part of I think on any broadcast too,
if there's a sign that the individuals working together enjoy
each other on the air, then I think it's more
likely that people will enjoy it as well as no question.
I think that's that's now. I'm guessing there have been
some good combos that have hated each other off air
and found a way to fake it.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, they're not saying that can't happen, but but it
definitely definitely comes across. So you mentioned the Cubs down,
what didn't we get a three run dong in the
in the top of the first and then Milwaukee came
right back and tied it, right.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, Uh, Suzuki hit a big three run home first inning,
three run bomb, and thinking, okay, if we're settling in here,
we we're okay, We're Game two, We're okay, and let's
let's see if we could get game two and come
back to Wrigley tied, and Vaughn who was with the
White Sox for a while, he hit a three run
homer in the first tied the game, and I was like, oh,
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it's one of them days, and I just yeah, it
just hasn't gone Cubs. I think they had two hits
after the first inning, so that makes it a little
difficult to win when you're you know, you don't get
many hits posts first inning, So that was It's been
a tough series, it just has.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And now you playing great, Milwaukee's playing really well. I
think that's going to be an important part of the story. Obviously.
The next two games are are back at Wrigley. Update me,
what are Wriggly field crowds like these days? Like even
let's say, if we go back to the World Series
team and the atmosphere, you know, then around Wriggly, is
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it the same as it was then? Is it even
more pronounced? Is it a different kind of crowd? What
do you sense these days at Wrigley?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I feel like Wriggly the pinnacle of Wrigley was sixteen,
right and it just went crazy and we all knew
you grew up here too, going there, you know, and
it was so over you know, it was it was
so overneeded for a fan base to be able to
cheer like that. And I think seventeen the team that
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all did good, you know, but you know, went to
the Championship Series and then I think we lost some
playoff rounds right away. Yeah, and we haven't won a
playoff series since eighteen here at Wrigley Field, or won
a playoff series, so with fans in the stands, so
we you know, COVID year. But I thought Game three
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of the wild Card series was the first time. The
fans were great in game one and two of the
wild Card games and then we split and then you're
playing Game three, and that gave me goosebumps. That was
one of them. Now we're back to the sixteen group.
We from the first pitch of the game, they were
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it was on and you know, they it was almost
like they weren't going to let us lose. And that's
how the game went. It just it really went that way.
And anytime an opposing pitcher had a tough pitch, you know,
in an inning, they made it even that much tougher.
It was really fun to do, fun fun game.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Tell us a little bit about the local angle here.
Michael Bush, his season, what you know of him obviously
inver Grove Heights, I believe is where he gails from originally,
because I've gotten texts intermittently like all season from people
who either know him or have Invergrove Heights or Minnesota connections,
and we have not you know, we really and I
(29:06):
have not talked a lot of beyond the Minnesota Twins
through much of this season. So tell me a little
bit about about his season where he's fitting in these days.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Well, I think he's had an unbelievable season. He's been great,
thirty four home runs. I think he finished the regular
season at ninety RBIs. He has said three home runs
already in the playoffs, And basically Milwaukee changed their pitching
plan to pitch away from Michael Bush. So eighty two
(29:38):
of the series they brought in and they had an
opener and changed their whole program to try to keep
Michael out of you know, out of their arms way.
So that's that will tell you all you need to know.
Come playoff them. That's the best team in baseball record wise,
is pitching away from Michael Bush. That's how hot he is.
The other thing about him and I met him two
(29:59):
years go my first day in spring training, you know,
I walked up to him. We're in a backfield, and
I said, hey, Michael, how you doing. Welcome to the
Chicago Cubs. I'm Ron Coomer. Mister Komer, how are you?
My dad loved watching you play. I was like, you know,
he is He's exactly what you would think a really
nice Minnesota guy would be. A young guy, he's a lot,
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he's nice, he's a hard worker. He's turned himself into
a great player. Danny, he's a he's an All Star
player now, whether he didn't make the team this year,
but you know you're thirty four or ninety, you're playing
first base. He's an excellent defender. So he's turned himself
into a front line big league player. And you know
the other thing about him too. I have not met
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his parents yet, although I know I will because I
know his dad's a cigar guy, so I know we're
going to end up meeting. But they should be really
proud of he's a great, great young guy. He really
is great young guy.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Over your time in base either as a player or
now as a broadcaster, have you run into or gotten
to know it all? A very acerbic reporter used to
be a New York tabloid guy. Now he writes for
a website called ball nine dot com named Kevin Kernan.
(31:17):
Do you know Kevin all at all? Do you know
who he is? I know who he is yet I
had a hunch. Okay, so Kernin we have him on occasionally.
He's a great guest. He's he's just extremely passionate about
the game, but he has every time he's on, we
have what we call a nerd count, where he can't
stand what he describes as the baseball nerds. He thinks
(31:40):
the nerds are ruining the game, and so we count
up how many times he uses the word in each
each time he is broadcast. He's with us, So refresh
my memory. Update me on where you are regarding the
question of the nerds overtaking the game, Whether you've come
to accept nerd them to a degree that there's a
(32:02):
place for it, or you share Kernan's utter abhorrence of
everything he thinks they represent and have brought to the
game of baseball.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I'm losing connection, Dan, I don't know if I can
hear you any longer. Well, I think I think for
all baseball guys you know that played the game and
had spent their whole life in the games. You know
we have a hard time with that. There's no doubt that.
But I do think there is a there is a
(32:35):
place for both. I really do. I think that, you know,
the the analytics side of our game has helped the
pitching side very much. There's no doubt about that. And
I think they have that has not helped the offensive side.
That's the way it is. I mean, you look at
strikeouts are up, Batting averages are way down, the offenses
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are struggling. The guys are, you know, swinging and missing
at a record pace because they want them to do
certain The thing that I don't the thing that I
don't understand about the offense, and I you know, I've
been with some great hitting people through my years, and uh,
I think I understand hitting pretty well. When you ask
somebody to do something and they do it, and they
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do it really well, and then you get mad for
them doing what you ask them to do, and then
you you go against what's what the result is? Well,
that's what you ask them to do. That's that mean baseball.
But when you're asking guys to try to hit the
ball out of the park, and hit them out of
the park, walk on base and not it for average,
(33:47):
don't care about average, don't care about RBIs, And then
you get upset that they strike out two hundred times, Well,
guess what which one do you want? You can't have both, right, So,
but see that that that analytics they can't understand that.
They can't they've never stood it. So that's a problem.
And that's where you're getting at. And now the you know,
(34:08):
the the Arises who you know played in this series
before in San Diego, Nico Horner for us putting the
ball in play. All of a sudden, they become really
big stories in October because why they can actually put
the ball in play and they have a good at bath.
It's like, hello, I don't know what to tell you
know it it amazes me, and you know I talked
(34:30):
about it on the air. But offense, it's coming back.
Put it that way, the offense inside of the ball.
We're starting to gain some footing because you're seeing that
guys putting the ball and play and understanding how to
use the whole field and actually be an offensive player.
That's working again and they're seeing that. And you know,
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striking out one hundred and eighty times as a shortstop
probably isn't very good.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Ron Coomer joining us of course, he's on radio play
by Plit color analysis on the Chicago Cubs Baseball Network.
Cubs down two games to none after losing last night
in Milwaukee, and the series, we'll resume in Chicago. Who
is the old time pitching coach for the Braves, Goudy.
(35:19):
I can see him, the guy used to rock back Mazzoni.
There was a great piece I don't know if you
saw it, believe it or not, in a non sports
publication I think the Atlantic where somebody tracked him down
and he's old school on pitching. And of course his
issue on pitching is he thinks it isn't a coincidence
(35:41):
that we're seeing the number of arms break up that
we are the injuries because of all of the emphasis
similarly on velocity and not enough on the art of pitching. Now,
I assume the ball guys would say, well, no, there's
a reason we do that because pitchers can throw this hard.
It's the most effective way get people out. But where
are you on that whole issue of whether that is
(36:05):
directly you know, related to the to what seems to
be a rash of pitching. You know of arm injuries
and you know significant surgeries.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
There's no doubt that they're related, without question. That's just
the way it is. And I think organizations you know
that that's just part of the program. I think for
a pitcher to not have Tommy John. They look and go, really,
how how have you gotten around not having Tommy God surgery?
You know, it's just kind of part of the program.
I really believe that. And you know, I had one
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pitching coach who I'm friends with in the league tell
me I don't And this is an exaggeration, but there's
some truth to it too. And he's a big league
pitching coach for a long time. He said, I don't
have pitchers. I got projectile throwers. Okay, And you know,
for some guys, I think that's true. I don't think
(36:58):
that's true for everybody, right, I definitely think there's some
guys that you know, have figured out how to throw
the ball extremely hard. And if they can throw three
balls in the box before they throw four out, that's positive.
You know. I don't know if you call that pitching,
but yea, that is what it is.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
That's the issue. I assume you know you've paid you
always pay attention to the twins. You have enough connections
here as well. How concerned are you? You know, if
the season turned disastrous, they got the bullpen at the
trade deadline, like almost in historic fashion. Basically the top
(37:34):
five relievers all sent away. Rocko an occasional guest on
this show. We had a great relationship with Roco. He
gets dismissed. It happens. That's generally what happens when teams
don't do very well, as long as I think these
guys missed the playoffs for the last five years something
like that. So how concerned and you know about the
ownership thing that they were gonna the poleads are going
(37:54):
to sell Now they're not going to sell. Now they're
adding investors. How worried about you? Are you? You about
your old baseball team?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, I think they're They're in a tough way right now.
There's no doubt I think on the field, you know,
we were talking about this, I don't know if we've
ever seen quite a dismantling of a team quite like
the Twins did this year. That's that was something, Yes,
it really was.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
So then when you get to that point now to
build that back, you know you're talking about some times
got to you know, things have to work out real
well with draft picks. They got to you know, all
these middle of the road signings, not not the elite player,
but you know, you got to hit on a lot
of these guys now just to be competitive, you know,
and you don't want to turn into these, you know,
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teams like you know, the White Sox were two years
ago Colorado. You don't want to turn into that because
then you lose your fan base in a big way
and you become you know, I think here on the
South Side two years ago, you know, people were you know,
if they had five hundred people on that Tuesday night game,
it was you know, that's that's not good. So I know,
(39:06):
you know, I hope they get it turned around. You know.
It's one of those things you know that the ownership team,
I don't know really kind of how things are going
when when I left, you know, and mister Pole that
has passed, and I know I think his grandson is
Joe Branson that's running right now. Yes, yeah, And I
(39:28):
think some of the people have left that really had
a good hold on what was going on. I think
Dave Saint Peter was, you know, one of the best
executives in baseball and and a guy that you know,
he led twins, yes, Blue and Red. He just did.
And you've lost some people in the organization. You know,
(39:48):
they fired a year after Paul Maliner was the manager
of the year. You fired him. You know, those are
people that are you know, they're they're Minnesota Twins man,
so so they they've made some mistakes, there's no out
and you know, but they still got fully in town.
I'd be knocking on his door. He's sending them over
two hours. Hey Paul, what are you doing? You busy?
(40:11):
We'd really like to have your back. That would be
my that'd be my first thing to do. We have
the pole in our game and get him back and
in uniform and helping out. Well, yeah, he could be
mad at me for saying that, but that's too bad.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
That's too bad. Well we you know, we have not
had had him on in a while. But there's nobody
better to talk baseball in the air with, as you know,
I mean Moll when he's gone, when he's really you know,
in it and into it, he's fascinating to talk to.
I have no idea where his his mind is now.
I just think, man, it's it's gonna be a tough
It's like you said, it's it's I think part of it,
(40:46):
uh koom dog is they have to somebody is going
to need to declare what the vision is? You know,
you you have to let Okay, are we going to
actually strip more payroll? Now that we've stripped the bullpen
and we're going in rebuilding mode? Can you even afford
to do that?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
What?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
You know, what's the plan? I think even Byron, you know,
Buckston's a good soldier guy who said I want to
be here my whole career. But even heat towards the
end of the season, like, Okay, you know this will
be if we we build again, that'll be my third
since I've been here. So we got to I start,
We sort of got to figure out what we want
to do. And and that's what's scary. Even now you're Joe,
Ryan questioned some things and internally, and that's that's a
(41:26):
tough spot when you have people inside the organization who
are generally good soldiers, who are saying, wait a minute, now,
what what exactly are we doing? And and that's what's
And like I said, I wasn't kidding. I mean, you
feel so detached when your team's not in the postseason.
It's it's it's much harder to stay connected. Everything feels fresher,
and you know, you're more into it. If you're a
(41:48):
factor or if you're part of that, and right now
it just feels like it's very far away.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, it does feel that way. And then you know,
for the Cubs, I mean even for people like us,
we're not oht season relevant right up until the end.
You know, you do you shut down, you head to
South or you d west and season's over and you
know you're not all that overly interested in the playoffs
and you're like, we're done, this is over, you know.
(42:15):
So the Twins, the Twins are an organization. They need
to be relevant in baseball. It gets such a great
you know, great fan base and great ball park. I mean,
they just need to be relevant. So hopefully they're going
to get that plan together, as you said. And then
once you get a plan together, then you can sell
that at least exactly to the fan base. You know,
you can sell that and it doesn't have to be
(42:36):
win tomorrow. But we were building towards something. I think
that is a very something that is in need, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Last item for you, and it's great to hear your voice.
We're having Patrick ROYCEI in studio on Monday. He doesn't
work for the station, but we just sort of. There's
some people that supersede all the rules, so they let
you every once in a while, usually bring him in
for the fair and that didn't work out. So we're
gonna have him on Monday, approaching I think his eightieth
(43:06):
birthday by the way, So any special messages for mister
royce who I know.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
You know, well, tell him he owes me a coffee.
We we I had a great chance. So this year
when we came to Minnesota to play the Twins, Patrick
and I went out for a coffee and he interviewed
me in Eden Prairie, yes before the series started, and
(43:33):
he's just he is. He's one of those people that
you know, he has always been kind of I don't
want to you know, if you want to know what's
going on in Minnesota sports, read Roycey's column corect right.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
I would say I got two friends that are that
way right now, you and him. You want to know
what's going on, Listen to your show if you want
to read about it, Listen to read Patrick's stuff. He's
going to give you, you know, the high school, the
college football. He's got it all going and he's a
great We had a great time. We had coffee and uh,
(44:09):
but you know, those are people that are our gaming,
are all of our sports. You can't you know, They're
just they're part of the the being of what we do, right.
I mean, Minnesota is with Sid and Patrick listening to
them to jaw at each other on the sports show.
God to make me laugh. It didn't matter what the
(44:30):
hell they said. It's just made me laugh.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
That's exactly right, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
And so yeah, he is. Everybody knows Patrick around the league,
and it's great that you're having them on. That's that's
a must listen for sure.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Irreplaceable is the word. He doesn't he gets uncomfortable with that.
He doesn't like praise in his way, But irreplaceable is
the word.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, I yeah, I can be replace I can just
hear him now.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
The guy the guy tire like two Ryder cups ago
and he's still going, I say, and I think he should.
That's the thing I don't buy. If he's still got
the passion for it, he's still got the talent for it,
keep doing it, man, And I think I you know,
I buy that notion that it's what keeps people alive.
You know, what they do if they do it well
(45:19):
that they that they they don't feel obligated because you're
supposed to stop, that you have to stop. Don't stop
if you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
You know. He lives on the other side of town.
Paul and I still have a place in Eaton Prairie.
We come into town. He asked to me, he wants
to do an interview. I'm like, sure, let's do it. Patrick. No, no, no,
no no, we got to go somewhere. We got to
do it in person. We gotta have coffee. I'm like,
Christmas awesome. I'm like if Paul is looking at me
like you're making plans to do what on your offing here?
(45:46):
And I'm like, yeah, I am. I don't know what
to tell you. I'm don't have Patrick Curcy.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
He wins, that's it.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Sorry, family, I'll have to wait a couple hours.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Well, good luck to the cubbies. I hope they can. Uh,
they can get back in this thing and lead, make
it interesting and really appreciate the time on the off day. Man,
always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Always for you, buddy, Yep, miss talking you.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Thanks kom Dog me as well. Take care. That's Ron Komer.
We call him. Koomb Dog used to be a regular
on this show a long long time ago. Got what
a guy. Let's make this the top of the hour pause.
I don't know if we're gonna do Top five at five,
Luigi's in the house, so we could do a little
Top five with Louis and then get into a lot
of hockey conversation. Opening night National Hockey League looks like
(46:31):
Florida two Blackhawks one at the end of period number
one in the first game of what I'm assuming he's
going to be an ESPN doubleheader, and we'll talk about
the McDavid developments. There's a lot to get to with Luigi,
some more wild injuries to discuss already, Questions for Louis
six four six eighty six The Bradshawn Bryant Cafe in
(46:52):
text line
Minnesota Apple Grower Association board member here, I just want
to know which orchard Adam is calling in from. I'm
sorry I did not establish it. I don't think he
would tell you. I don't think he should because then,
like I said, all the folks who have opinions on
the quarterback position would be saying, Adam, here's what the
Vikings should do, right, I mean, let's be honest. So
I think it's unlikely. But it's a good apple orchard day, nice, crisp, yep, breezy,
(00:42):
you know, sunshiny. Well in the advantage when you have
any seven degrees a flexible job. That's just you can
pull up Tuesday at three o'clock, right, So it's probably
going to be pretty quiet there. I always think the
best time to go to an orchard is during a
Vikings game on a Sunday because people are watching the
game just DVR. That's that's my theory on everything. Watch
(01:04):
the orchard, and you could say that about any places.
Mall of Hysteria is actually, you know, decent to navigate.
When the Vikings are playing, there's no better time to
go to the mall of his just DV are it?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Go?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Get your errands done and watch it later. And by
the way, I'd go to the pine tree apple orchard.
That would be my pick. Hi U nine five two
guy writes, Dan, you're spot on with your assessment of
Mcjesus extension, contrasting with capriceofs. The Athletic outlined it in
a peace last night. The wild were on the loser
side of the ledger given the bounty they paid the
Wilds ninety seven versus the Oilers ninety seven. By ps,
(01:37):
the over under for capriceoff games played this year is
at fifty nine point five. That is that a cheap
shot or is that a legitimate factual? Do they? I
assume that's established by they have those nine and a half.
Maybe not Vegas, but some of the yeah right, Vegas
maybe would not not do it. So missing twenty two
(01:58):
twenty three games, that's too many for the quarter of
the season. Again, I don't want to have that happen again.
Five h seven guys standing tall for the individual suggesting
that it's only me perpetuating the code of quarterback controversy angle.
He's alluding to the counterfactuals about Rogers and Darnold that
(02:20):
you and Common are both talking about day after day.
It's a frustrating media jackal narrative because if they had
kept Arnold or signed Rogers, y'all probably would have spent
this many segments complaining that we didn't give our new
quarterback jj A try. I would say, if I was seven, guy,
you can, if it's easier to dismiss me as the
boogeyman in this case, go ahead, you can. You can
(02:40):
lie to yourself and say that's what I would have said.
But I'm on record. It's not that hard to find
as saying I would have taken the plunge on Aaron
Rodgers and the Vikings had the opportunity to do that. Now,
that doesn't mean if they'd done it and Rogers played poorly,
that I was going to deny that he was playing
(03:01):
poorly and that it doesn't look like a good decision.
But five h seven guy, I don't want to disappoint you.
But no, that's not the way this game is necessarily played,
that we just will you just reverse fields and you
go the other other way. What I might say is
the JJA people were right if Rogers struggled and there
(03:21):
was a soap opera here, But you can't have it
both ways, because I'm not trying to have it both ways.
I on the front end all Long said I would
I would take the plunge on Aaron Rodgers. Now I
didn't say take the plunge on Darnold given how much
money had ended up being Danny Dimes. I don't know.
I mean, I guess I didn't even realize. I think
(03:43):
Seft's going to join us tomorrow, and maybe we can
talk about this with him. That allegedly the Vikings did
offer him more money to stay than he ultimately took
with the Colts, but that Dimes, who, by the way,
right now the number one in QBR, the number one
in two ranked quarterbacks in the entire league are Dimes
(04:05):
and Darnald. Now, Donald did throw a bad interception. He
played brilliantly against Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay through a late
like his worst interception of the year. He has not
made very many of those faux pause. It's a bad interception,
but I think they're one two if I'm not mistaken.
In QBR, there are people who are trying to use
(04:29):
Carson Wentz's QBR against them in saying you really don't
have to keep playing him because he ranks twenty sixth,
one ahead of I should say one behind A raj
who is at forty four point five. Carson Wentz is
forty one point five. Not great if you believe in
(04:52):
the QBR standard, although I'm more interested in having won
two out of three. However, if you want to believe
in the QBR, JJ McCarthy he's QBR is so bad
it's not even on the board. Yeah, I don't even
see him. He's at twenty one six. That's five points
worse than the quarterback ranked number thirty two right now,
Cam Warton, who's not been very good, who's not been
(05:12):
very good. Had he had some moments in his last game,
but has not been very good either. So and Cincinnati
Bengal Joe Flacco, how about that, sine, No, it's crazy.
That's a division trade, right, it would be, so it
must be Flacco has given too much flack to Brown's
officials about the demotion because he didn't He said he
wasn't ready for it, wasn't pleased about it, which is bizarre,
(05:37):
extremely bizarre. Beyond that, I just don't think he has
much left now. Maybe if you're if you're Cincinnati, you say,
Chipchair in a chance, We're just we're desperate, so we'll
take a look at him because Browning, I guess, has
not been very impressive, right, correct, Yeah, so you give
yourself another another option. I don't blame them for scrambling
(05:59):
to give it a try. I just think he's pretty
close to done. He's forty years old, he's been washed
for a while. I think that even last week. Yeah,
it wasn't that game here. Yes, And he didn't even
look interested to me. I know he's Joe cool, but
he just looked like, no Ah, yeah, I try that
pass now. Maybe I will, maybe I won't. I just
didn't think anything. I didn't think he was bothered by anything.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So I we'll see where it goes. But I'm not
very optimistic for him or for the Bengals, although they
again are in a very difficult spot. When the McCarthy
era fails here and he moves on to his next
team and Zach Halverson follows him, can I have his
job on the morning show? No better time here? Hold on?
(06:49):
The follow up text of that would be, what do
you think Halve's job on the Morning Show?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Is?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Like, what do you think how he does. That's a
very good point. Yeah, you're right, and then we'll square
it up with what he does. Dan, I haven't heard
you openly say you think Wentz is going to lead
the Vikers to super Bowl. If you don't say that
and don't believe that, there's absolutely no reason to start
once McCarthy is healthy, I've heard this argument before. I
don't buy it. This argument conveniently ignores is even if
(07:20):
I think Carson Wentz is unluck is not going to
leave them to lead them to the super Bowl. I
have to be convinced and the coaches have to be
convinced that this quarterback of the future is not overwhelmed
in the present enough where with this core of players,
(07:40):
you actually serve everybody's interest trying to play it out
a little bit longer. Now, if you come to the conclusion,
now we figured some things out, next time he plays,
he's going to be in a lot different place. I
don't know how you can guarantee that, but you convince
yourself of that. Okay, But I'm not buying The super
Bowl threshold thing means nothing to me because it leaves
out the important piece. I can think McCarthy is the
(08:03):
man eventually, and still wonder based on what I saw,
whether they asked him to do too much too soon,
and that he actually might be one of those guys,
given his age and even the kind of offense that
he led in college, that he might need a little
bit more time than even Koc thought he did sitting
(08:25):
and watching and practicing and so forth. Now he can
come back against Philly and be great. You know, I mean,
who's to say I rule nothing out? And I've said
all along I tend to think these things take care
of themselves. The sooner or later Wentz will come back
to the pack enough that it makes the decision a
lot easier, and you go ahead and get going with
(08:45):
you know, you start the future right. Then that kind
of seems like how Chaos is playing it too right
when asked about it, basically doing that, I'm excited to
get back on I'm excited we got to win and
we'll get back to the States. Essentially, he's not really engaging. Well,
here's what's funny about these guys. And we'll talk to
Kevin about Seafford about this tomorrow. They've gone from the
(09:09):
feeling I've gotten on this trip now that it's over
is it did kind of catch up with us. Oh,
they get a little crazy. It got too much. And
I'm going, well, I have very little sympathy because these guys,
the smartest men in the room, said, oh we got this.
We know no, no, no, no, we know how to do
this May three exactly. Let's just play a month there.
(09:30):
So I have a hard time having much sympathy for
them now going, ah, this is a slog. This is
more difficult. And were you with me? You were on
last Friday, right off Friday, so we talked about this Friday.
We're gonna get into it sea for tomorrow. I had
texted you about it, an you know. The tension included
(09:50):
maybe the first significant brush up between KOC and the
media jackals in an almost zimmerized kind of a way
as we started earlier in the week with some of
Koc's comments. And I'm curious to get follow up on
it because it sounds like he was he was bitter
with the Sue Han column about the suggestion, which SUEHNN
(10:11):
knocked down. He didn't he didn't perpetuate it, but he
did acknowledge it that fans had that McCarthy was demoted,
that he's not really hurt, and he took offense to that,
even though, as I said in the column, I don't
think he tried to fan the flames of it. And
then apparently there are a couple other things that have
been either written or said that had koc In almost zimmerized,
(10:33):
like zimmerized like mode. Yeah, I want to get more
detail on that. I even thought you could see when
he was mad about not being able to get to
time out right away at the end of the game,
the hail Mary, I thought he was as sarcastic as
he's ever been with the official Yeah, that was a
dude that just wanted to get the hell out of Europe.
(10:56):
That was not That was not the chaos that we
just completely You're one hundred percent ride. I had the
same thought. I to list to my own bed. I'm
sick of the countryside, I'm sick of the accents, I'm
sick of the fish and chips. I just want to
go home. I'm sick of having injured guys and having
to worry about passports. Let me just get home because
this sucks. That's what I thought. How about one of
(11:17):
your key players not showing up for a walkthrough, which
I still can't believe. Do you so it was a
walkthrough during the week? Is that what it was? I
believe so, yes, that's because do you know how impossible
it is a special walkthrough when you're sequestered in a
countryside bill. I still haven't had it resolved, so maybe
Seffert will be able to resolve that as well. I
do have a good question to come back with for
(11:38):
you that we talked about yesterday, because I want to
get your view on a line of thinking that has
been passed along a couple times regarding the Carson Wentz controversy.
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(12:16):
As we return to the program, I don't forget Koum
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at about four thirty or so. Louis is in the
house and we'll join in the five o'clock hour as well.
The contempt towards Wentz is age and his roots. Minnesotan's
deep down view. North Dakota is the annoying little brother.
(12:39):
New York looks down on Chicago. Chicago looks down on Minneapolis.
Minneapolis looks down on Fargo. Hold on, let me scroll
down here to get the rest of this one. Do
we Fargo looks down on mine? Not mine? Not looks
down on Estevan. It's c after green Bay is Bismarck.
That's not in here. Can't even read, I can't. This
(13:01):
may have been a dictated text. Several people have advanced
this theory. Do you think there's anything to it? Because
I do know for a fact that some of the
Wents love some of the Wentz win a bageo. Love
goes beyond just watching him play now it's he's our guy. Yeah.
(13:23):
On the other end, that there's love is blind man,
and I definitely think that exists. I have tended to
dismiss the notion that Minnesota fans are less likely to
even grudgingly pass along praise to Wentz because of his roots,
even though he grew up apparently cheering for the Purple.
(13:46):
Is there anything Do you think there's anything to that?
Conspiracy theory. I mean maybe with a very small faction,
but I feel like we claim everybody. When it's at
a national level, we do. We can't die. Has he
dined and taken credit for Wentz? Probably because that's what
That's what I'm thinking. I think it would be the
opposite that the fact that he's just from our regions somewhere,
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that we would be just giddy that he's not getting
run for. Who else would he have cheered for the
Minnesota Vikings of course, so why wouldn't we love him? Yeah?
I had not heard that one. They showed him at
the UH Adrian Peterson Historic Rushing Day. Yeah, he had
some great pictures. Was the Chargers, wasn't I was at that?
Speaking of Norv Turner, who made an appearance in the
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show earlier that he was the head coach. We found
We found out early in the show that the only
reason Adam Thielen loves black coffee, no sugar, no cream, naked,
no nothing is the nor The average Norv Turner meeting
went on so long and was so over the top.
(14:52):
That's brilliant that he that's he said, I got to
do something, so he started. That's when he started drinking
black coffee cracks me up. That's pretty late. I guess
I'm trying to say, yeah, he made it so long, Yeah,
midway through his career. It's hilarious. Here's the the the
obbserve the take that I just I just don't understand
what people are smoking. A Dylan from North Branch rights.
(15:15):
You guys are outside your minds if you don't think
JJ is starting. We put off all of our eggs
in the JJ basket. We have to play him. Why
what does that mean? No, the fact is they didn't
put all their eggs in his basket. They actually put
all their eggs in the basket of several veteran players
they want out and sign in free agency. This notion
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that if you don't play him now, you're never gonna
find out what he can be I just categorically reject.
I think this league is too much about winning and
losing to necessarily throw out the possibility that Wentz ends
up playing a little longer. I mean the eggs just
(15:56):
because the eggs are all that, all our eggs are
in the JJ basket eventually, Why do we think check
JJ McCarthy's age. Isn't he like about seven years younger
than brosmer about. I mean, he's still one of the
youngest players in the national football He looks twelve. So
(16:19):
I categorically reject this notion that you have to play him.
You might have to play him eventually, it's a matter
of when you want to start the clock. And did
you see what Mark Craig wrote, No, do you remember
the Well, I don't know if Bud Grant said it first,
but he said it the best ability is availability. Oh yeah,
(16:43):
it's a great line. It's a great line. It's been overused,
but it says a lot. It's true. And Craig, let
me see if I can find the exact quote, because
and he's going to be in the meat grinder also
at the mansion with the mcgobos for sure. Let me
see if I can find it here. Where's the Oh
was this the piece? Yeah? I think this was the
(17:05):
piece here regarding Jju or his quarterback class, I guess
I should say was it in this piece? Maybe it
was someplace else. I'll find it. But basically he mentions
(17:27):
that from that quarterback class, everybody else has played a
bunch and through no fault of his own. I mean,
I'm saying, not saying, he's saying he's not legitimately injured.
JJ has it has easily the least amount of time played,
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and that at the very least has made it difficult
to evaluate him properly. So again, I don't think anybody is.
Why can't I find it was? Did he write it
or was it? I can't remember where it was, but
it was he was trying to do. Craig was kind
of trying to do the at roughly a quarter the
(18:08):
way through this season, A look at the division, Yeah,
here it is one of McCarthy is one of most
valuable player first quarter coin to Mark Craig, NFC North
Jared Goff. You can't argue with it. He's joined Peyton
Manning as the only quarterbacks ever to complete at least
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seventy five percent of their passes with at least twelve
touchdowns and a passer rating of at least one hundred
and twenty through five games. Biggest disappointment JJ McCarthy. One
of six quarterbacks drafted in the top twelve a year ago.
McCarthy has been healthy enough for two starts too. The
other five has started to combine eighty seven games the
immortal words of Bud Grant. The best ability is availability.
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Never ranked tour around these parts. Now, obviously he's going
to get healthier and he's going he's going to get
a chance to play. It's just a matter of when.
And I think it'll come in in good time. There
are people out there who think they they already have
concluded that JJ is Christian Ponder two point zero. I
just got a text about that. I'm not in that group.
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I'm not ready to say that at all. I think
he's a more dynamic player, speaking by the way of
dynamic quarterbacks. Scary stuff to start saying that, by the way,
we need to that's reckless, to be careful, it's early,
it's wait, it's premature, for sure, But that's just the
trauma of Christian Ponder, especially things that are easily correctable.
What about and this is maybe a bit of a
non sequitur, but I how about the Mark Sanchez story.
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Is that one of the most believable bizarre stories in history. Yes,
where delivery truck guy is there, he's trying to do
sprints and he's bitter that the car that the truck
is parked there and loses his mind. Presumably alcohol driven,
right yep, and and ends up getting an altercation with
of him and then he gets stabbed. But yet I
(20:03):
think the most serious charges at least right now are
against him Sanchez. Yes, for the injuries that he inflicted
on the other individual. I think first mastem and then
he stabbed them. I'm just trying to figure out. It's
past midnight. I guess, well, alcohol is the answer. That's
the answer. Yeah, you're right, you're going, well, what do
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you care about a truck, a delivery truck being in
a in an alley?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Where or what?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And somehow he loses his mind over that. How do
he and his life has now changed forever?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It is.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It's it's the strange. And everybody who says they know
Sanchez says, well, this isn't This isn't the guy. I mean,
this doesn't make any sense. It's bizarre. It's one of
the more bizarre stories we will see this year. And
obviously his I assume his analysts career is probably over
at least for now, tough to come back from. And
he's the night before he's going to do the Colts game, right,
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he's an Indianapolis to do with the Colts game Danny
Dimes and they have to fly Brady Quinn in Is that?
What is that what they did? H yeah, yep, he
was at Michigan, so I'm sure he just kind of
hopped over right. All right, let's make this the bottom
of our pause, and let's talk some baseball. Let's get
and more importantly, let's just get caught up with our
old friend Ron Coomer for the first time in quite
(21:19):
some time. Louis, as I said, will join in the
five o'clock hour. Stay tune time now for the Vikings
Report on the Fan, presented by Miller Lte. Vikings wide
receiver Adam Thielen joins danver reroom next. Well, believe it
(21:51):
or not, Twins fans, baseball is still being played. We
feel about as disconnected from it as one can. Yes,
we can do. It feels like it's another lifetime. It
feels like it's been months since the twins unfortunate season ended.
But our next guest is here to testify that there
might be a tomorrow or there is a post season.
(22:13):
Although time's a wasting for the team. He covers the
Chicago Cubs. Ron Coomer kind of enough to join us
via the Connectico Water Systems Hotline Coomb Dog.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
How are you, sir, Danny. I am doing I was
doing much better yesterday about this time than I am. Yeah,
I will tell you that, but it is what it is.
You know. We we've made postseason, won the first rounds
of the wild Card, and we've run into a little
bit of a buzz. So with Milwaukee, they played a
couple of good games and we're back in Chicago, so
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we will play tomorrow here at Wrigley. So you know,
we got to win three in a row. It's not
out of the realm of possibility, but just Milwaukee group's
pretty good. But I am doing phenomenally well. I couldn't be,
you know, just so good, very good.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I will tell you I texted you the other night.
I'm watching the end of the Cubs clincher in the
previous round, and I said, you know, there's ways these days,
especially through serious XM, to get the local call from
you guys on the game. And you know we're friends,
(23:20):
we go way back a long time. But I have
no reason to suck up to you right now. I'm
just telling you you and Pat Hughes, I think it's
as good a local radio broadcast as you can get.
Because what struck me I listened for about an inning
and a half. In fact, I went backwards a little
bit so I could hear the call, you know, of
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the celebratory moment and so forth. And what struck me is,
you know, you guys have been working together, and I
think for a while it's just so seamless. You guys
have figured each other out, which, as you know, is
eighty percent of the battle. When you're on with somebody else,
he sets you up nicely. You play off each other
so well. I don't know if it's as much fun
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doing it as it sounds, but it's just it's a
great broadcast.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Oh thank you, that's nice to say. It is. We
we've become very close friends. We were friends before it
ever started, and we've just kind of, you know, become buddies.
And you couldn't meet two more opposite people on the planet.
That's my partner and I. But I think that's part
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of the cool love of the whole thing. You know,
we just bring something totally different to each other, to
the broadcast, to our cub fans, to the Cubs organization,
and I think we we really we like what we're doing.
You know, at the end of the day, I think
then when you go, you know, you you can hear
it in your voice and justin and when you when
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you're doing things that you really like to do, at
the end of the then it's going to be better.
And I couldn't think of anything better then going to
Wrigley Field every day and calling out my office. I've
been going there since I was four years old, and
so you know, I love Minnesota. I love the Twins.
I followed them, and you know, I mean they gave
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me my chance in the big leagues, both as a
player and as a broadcaster. I mean, you know, so
two careers work. So you know, it's thanking them for
everything that they've done for me. But I grew up
as a kid going to Wrigley and now I'm going
there every day, and you know, you just it's it's
some kind of fun and we get a good team
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to cover. But with that being said, Kat and I
are buddies, and I think that's the thing that you know,
we know baseball, but we're friends, and that's that's a
good thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Well again, part of I think on any broadcast too,
if there's a sign that the individuals working together enjoy
each other on the air, then I think it's more
likely that people will enjoy it as well as no question.
I think that's that's now. I'm guessing there have been
some good combos that have hated each other off air
and found a way to fake it.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, they're not saying that can't happen, but but it
definitely definitely comes across. So you mentioned the Cubs down,
what didn't we get a three run dong in the
in the top of the first and then Milwaukee came
right back and tied it, right.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, Uh, Suzuki hit a big three run home first inning,
three run bomb, and thinking, okay, if we're settling in here,
we we're okay, We're Game two, We're okay, and let's
let's see if we could get game two and come
back to Wrigley tied, and Vaughn who was with the
White Sox for a while, he hit a three run
homer in the first tied the game, and I was like, oh,
(26:40):
it's one of them days, and I just yeah, it
just hasn't gone Cubs. I think they had two hits
after the first inning, so that makes it a little
difficult to win when you're you know, you don't get
many hits posts first inning, So that was It's been
a tough series, it just has.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And now you playing great, Milwaukee's playing really well. I
think that's going to be an important part of the story. Obviously.
The next two games are are back at Wrigley. Update me,
what are Wriggly field crowds like these days? Like even
let's say, if we go back to the World Series
team and the atmosphere, you know, then around Wriggly, is
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it the same as it was then? Is it even
more pronounced? Is it a different kind of crowd? What
do you sense these days at Wrigley?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I feel like Wriggly the pinnacle of Wrigley was sixteen,
right and it just went crazy and we all knew
you grew up here too, going there, you know, and
it was so over you know, it was it was
so overneeded for a fan base to be able to
cheer like that. And I think seventeen the team that
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all did good, you know, but you know, went to
the Championship Series and then I think we lost some
playoff rounds right away. Yeah, and we haven't won a
playoff series since eighteen here at Wrigley Field, or won
a playoff series, so with fans in the stands, so
we you know, COVID year. But I thought Game three
(28:07):
of the wild Card series was the first time. The
fans were great in game one and two of the
wild Card games and then we split and then you're
playing Game three, and that gave me goosebumps. That was
one of them. Now we're back to the sixteen group.
We from the first pitch of the game, they were
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it was on and you know, they it was almost
like they weren't going to let us lose. And that's
how the game went. It just it really went that way.
And anytime an opposing pitcher had a tough pitch, you know,
in an inning, they made it even that much tougher.
It was really fun to do, fun fun game.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Tell us a little bit about the local angle here.
Michael Bush, his season, what you know of him obviously
inver Grove Heights, I believe is where he gails from originally,
because I've gotten texts intermittently like all season from people
who either know him or have Invergrove Heights or Minnesota connections,
and we have not you know, we really and I
(29:06):
have not talked a lot of beyond the Minnesota Twins
through much of this season. So tell me a little
bit about about his season where he's fitting in these days.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Well, I think he's had an unbelievable season. He's been great,
thirty four home runs. I think he finished the regular
season at ninety RBIs. He has said three home runs
already in the playoffs, And basically Milwaukee changed their pitching
plan to pitch away from Michael Bush. So eighty two
(29:38):
of the series they brought in and they had an
opener and changed their whole program to try to keep
Michael out of you know, out of their arms way.
So that's that will tell you all you need to know.
Come playoff them. That's the best team in baseball record wise,
is pitching away from Michael Bush. That's how hot he is.
The other thing about him and I met him two
(29:59):
years go my first day in spring training, you know,
I walked up to him. We're in a backfield, and
I said, hey, Michael, how you doing. Welcome to the
Chicago Cubs. I'm Ron Coomer. Mister Komer, how are you?
My dad loved watching you play. I was like, you know,
he is He's exactly what you would think a really
nice Minnesota guy would be. A young guy, he's a lot,
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he's nice, he's a hard worker. He's turned himself into
a great player. Danny, he's a he's an All Star
player now, whether he didn't make the team this year,
but you know you're thirty four or ninety, you're playing
first base. He's an excellent defender. So he's turned himself
into a front line big league player. And you know
the other thing about him too. I have not met
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his parents yet, although I know I will because I
know his dad's a cigar guy, so I know we're
going to end up meeting. But they should be really
proud of he's a great, great young guy. He really
is great young guy.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Over your time in base either as a player or
now as a broadcaster, have you run into or gotten
to know it all? A very acerbic reporter used to
be a New York tabloid guy. Now he writes for
a website called ball nine dot com named Kevin Kernan.
(31:17):
Do you know Kevin all at all? Do you know
who he is? I know who he is yet I
had a hunch. Okay, so Kernin we have him on occasionally.
He's a great guest. He's he's just extremely passionate about
the game, but he has every time he's on, we
have what we call a nerd count, where he can't
stand what he describes as the baseball nerds. He thinks
(31:40):
the nerds are ruining the game, and so we count
up how many times he uses the word in each
each time he is broadcast. He's with us, So refresh
my memory. Update me on where you are regarding the
question of the nerds overtaking the game, Whether you've come
to accept nerd them to a degree that there's a
(32:02):
place for it, or you share Kernan's utter abhorrence of
everything he thinks they represent and have brought to the
game of baseball.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I'm losing connection, Dan, I don't know if I can
hear you any longer. Well, I think I think for
all baseball guys you know that played the game and
had spent their whole life in the games. You know
we have a hard time with that. There's no doubt that.
But I do think there is a there is a
(32:35):
place for both. I really do. I think that, you know,
the the analytics side of our game has helped the
pitching side very much. There's no doubt about that. And
I think they have that has not helped the offensive side.
That's the way it is. I mean, you look at
strikeouts are up, Batting averages are way down, the offenses
(33:00):
are struggling. The guys are, you know, swinging and missing
at a record pace because they want them to do
certain The thing that I don't the thing that I
don't understand about the offense, and I you know, I've
been with some great hitting people through my years, and uh,
I think I understand hitting pretty well. When you ask
somebody to do something and they do it, and they
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do it really well, and then you get mad for
them doing what you ask them to do, and then
you you go against what's what the result is? Well,
that's what you ask them to do. That's that mean baseball.
But when you're asking guys to try to hit the
ball out of the park, and hit them out of
the park, walk on base and not it for average,
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don't care about average, don't care about RBIs, And then
you get upset that they strike out two hundred times, Well,
guess what which one do you want? You can't have both, right, So,
but see that that that analytics they can't understand that.
They can't they've never stood it. So that's a problem.
And that's where you're getting at. And now the you know,
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the the Arises who you know played in this series
before in San Diego, Nico Horner for us putting the
ball in play. All of a sudden, they become really
big stories in October because why they can actually put
the ball in play and they have a good at bath.
It's like, hello, I don't know what to tell you
know it it amazes me, and you know I talked
(34:30):
about it on the air. But offense, it's coming back.
Put it that way, the offense inside of the ball.
We're starting to gain some footing because you're seeing that
guys putting the ball and play and understanding how to
use the whole field and actually be an offensive player.
That's working again and they're seeing that. And you know,
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striking out one hundred and eighty times as a shortstop
probably isn't very good.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Ron Coomer joining us of course, he's on radio play
by Plit color analysis on the Chicago Cubs Baseball Network.
Cubs down two games to none after losing last night
in Milwaukee, and the series, we'll resume in Chicago. Who
is the old time pitching coach for the Braves, Goudy.
(35:19):
I can see him, the guy used to rock back Mazzoni.
There was a great piece I don't know if you
saw it, believe it or not, in a non sports
publication I think the Atlantic where somebody tracked him down
and he's old school on pitching. And of course his
issue on pitching is he thinks it isn't a coincidence
(35:41):
that we're seeing the number of arms break up that
we are the injuries because of all of the emphasis
similarly on velocity and not enough on the art of pitching. Now,
I assume the ball guys would say, well, no, there's
a reason we do that because pitchers can throw this hard.
It's the most effective way get people out. But where
are you on that whole issue of whether that is
(36:05):
directly you know, related to the to what seems to
be a rash of pitching. You know of arm injuries
and you know significant surgeries.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
There's no doubt that they're related, without question. That's just
the way it is. And I think organizations you know
that that's just part of the program. I think for
a pitcher to not have Tommy John. They look and go, really,
how how have you gotten around not having Tommy God surgery?
You know, it's just kind of part of the program.
I really believe that. And you know, I had one
(36:36):
pitching coach who I'm friends with in the league tell
me I don't And this is an exaggeration, but there's
some truth to it too. And he's a big league
pitching coach for a long time. He said, I don't
have pitchers. I got projectile throwers. Okay, And you know,
for some guys, I think that's true. I don't think
(36:58):
that's true for everybody, right, I definitely think there's some
guys that you know, have figured out how to throw
the ball extremely hard. And if they can throw three
balls in the box before they throw four out, that's positive.
You know. I don't know if you call that pitching,
but yea, that is what it is.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
That's the issue. I assume you know you've paid you
always pay attention to the twins. You have enough connections
here as well. How concerned are you? You know, if
the season turned disastrous, they got the bullpen at the
trade deadline, like almost in historic fashion. Basically the top
(37:34):
five relievers all sent away. Rocko an occasional guest on
this show. We had a great relationship with Roco. He
gets dismissed. It happens. That's generally what happens when teams
don't do very well, as long as I think these
guys missed the playoffs for the last five years something
like that. So how concerned and you know about the
ownership thing that they were gonna the poleads are going
(37:54):
to sell Now they're not going to sell. Now they're
adding investors. How worried about you? Are you? You about
your old baseball team?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, I think they're They're in a tough way right now.
There's no doubt I think on the field, you know,
we were talking about this, I don't know if we've
ever seen quite a dismantling of a team quite like
the Twins did this year. That's that was something, Yes,
it really was.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
So then when you get to that point now to
build that back, you know you're talking about some times
got to you know, things have to work out real
well with draft picks. They got to you know, all
these middle of the road signings, not not the elite player,
but you know, you got to hit on a lot
of these guys now just to be competitive, you know,
and you don't want to turn into these, you know,
(38:44):
teams like you know, the White Sox were two years
ago Colorado. You don't want to turn into that because
then you lose your fan base in a big way
and you become you know, I think here on the
South Side two years ago, you know, people were you know,
if they had five hundred people on that Tuesday night game,
it was you know, that's that's not good. So I know,
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you know, I hope they get it turned around. You know.
It's one of those things you know that the ownership team,
I don't know really kind of how things are going
when when I left, you know, and mister Pole that
has passed, and I know I think his grandson is
Joe Branson that's running right now. Yes, yeah, And I
(39:28):
think some of the people have left that really had
a good hold on what was going on. I think
Dave Saint Peter was, you know, one of the best
executives in baseball and and a guy that you know,
he led twins, yes, Blue and Red. He just did.
And you've lost some people in the organization. You know,
(39:48):
they fired a year after Paul Maliner was the manager
of the year. You fired him. You know, those are
people that are you know, they're they're Minnesota Twins man,
so so they they've made some mistakes, there's no out
and you know, but they still got fully in town.
I'd be knocking on his door. He's sending them over
two hours. Hey Paul, what are you doing? You busy?
(40:11):
We'd really like to have your back. That would be
my that'd be my first thing to do. We have
the pole in our game and get him back and
in uniform and helping out. Well, yeah, he could be
mad at me for saying that, but that's too bad.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
That's too bad. Well we you know, we have not
had had him on in a while. But there's nobody
better to talk baseball in the air with, as you know,
I mean Moll when he's gone, when he's really you know,
in it and into it, he's fascinating to talk to.
I have no idea where his his mind is now.
I just think, man, it's it's gonna be a tough
It's like you said, it's it's I think part of it,
(40:46):
uh koom dog is they have to somebody is going
to need to declare what the vision is? You know,
you you have to let Okay, are we going to
actually strip more payroll? Now that we've stripped the bullpen
and we're going in rebuilding mode? Can you even afford
to do that?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
What?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
You know, what's the plan? I think even Byron, you know,
Buckston's a good soldier guy who said I want to
be here my whole career. But even heat towards the
end of the season, like, Okay, you know this will
be if we we build again, that'll be my third
since I've been here. So we got to I start,
We sort of got to figure out what we want
to do. And and that's what's scary. Even now you're Joe,
Ryan questioned some things and internally, and that's that's a
(41:26):
tough spot when you have people inside the organization who
are generally good soldiers, who are saying, wait a minute, now,
what what exactly are we doing? And and that's what's
And like I said, I wasn't kidding. I mean, you
feel so detached when your team's not in the postseason.
It's it's it's much harder to stay connected. Everything feels fresher,
and you know, you're more into it. If you're a
(41:48):
factor or if you're part of that, and right now
it just feels like it's very far away.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah, it does feel that way. And then you know,
for the Cubs, I mean even for people like us,
we're not oht season relevant right up until the end.
You know, you do you shut down, you head to
South or you d west and season's over and you
know you're not all that overly interested in the playoffs
and you're like, we're done, this is over, you know.
(42:15):
So the Twins, the Twins are an organization. They need
to be relevant in baseball. It gets such a great
you know, great fan base and great ball park. I mean,
they just need to be relevant. So hopefully they're going
to get that plan together, as you said. And then
once you get a plan together, then you can sell
that at least exactly to the fan base. You know,
you can sell that and it doesn't have to be
(42:36):
win tomorrow. But we were building towards something. I think
that is a very something that is in need, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Last item for you, and it's great to hear your voice.
We're having Patrick ROYCEI in studio on Monday. He doesn't
work for the station, but we just sort of. There's
some people that supersede all the rules, so they let
you every once in a while, usually bring him in
for the fair and that didn't work out. So we're
gonna have him on Monday, approaching I think his eightieth
(43:06):
birthday by the way, So any special messages for mister
royce who I know.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
You know, well, tell him he owes me a coffee.
We we I had a great chance. So this year
when we came to Minnesota to play the Twins, Patrick
and I went out for a coffee and he interviewed
me in Eden Prairie, yes before the series started, and
(43:33):
he's just he is. He's one of those people that
you know, he has always been kind of I don't
want to you know, if you want to know what's
going on in Minnesota sports, read Roycey's column corect right.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
I would say I got two friends that are that
way right now, you and him. You want to know
what's going on, Listen to your show if you want
to read about it, Listen to read Patrick's stuff. He's
going to give you, you know, the high school, the
college football. He's got it all going and he's a
great We had a great time. We had coffee and uh,
(44:09):
but you know, those are people that are our gaming,
are all of our sports. You can't you know, They're
just they're part of the the being of what we do, right.
I mean, Minnesota is with Sid and Patrick listening to
them to jaw at each other on the sports show.
God to make me laugh. It didn't matter what the
(44:30):
hell they said. It's just made me laugh.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
That's exactly right, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
And so yeah, he is. Everybody knows Patrick around the league,
and it's great that you're having them on. That's that's
a must listen for sure.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Irreplaceable is the word. He doesn't he gets uncomfortable with that.
He doesn't like praise in his way, But irreplaceable is
the word.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yeah, I yeah, I can be replace I can just
hear him now.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
The guy the guy tire like two Ryder cups ago
and he's still going, I say, and I think he should.
That's the thing I don't buy. If he's still got
the passion for it, he's still got the talent for it,
keep doing it, man, And I think I you know,
I buy that notion that it's what keeps people alive.
You know, what they do if they do it well
(45:19):
that they that they they don't feel obligated because you're
supposed to stop, that you have to stop. Don't stop
if you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
You know. He lives on the other side of town.
Paul and I still have a place in Eaton Prairie.
We come into town. He asked to me, he wants
to do an interview. I'm like, sure, let's do it. Patrick. No, no, no,
no no, we got to go somewhere. We got to
do it in person. We gotta have coffee. I'm like,
Christmas awesome. I'm like if Paul is looking at me
like you're making plans to do what on your offing here?
(45:46):
And I'm like, yeah, I am. I don't know what
to tell you. I'm don't have Patrick Curcy.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
He wins, that's it.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Sorry, family, I'll have to wait a couple hours.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Well, good luck to the cubbies. I hope they can. Uh,
they can get back in this thing and lead, make
it interesting and really appreciate the time on the off day. Man,
always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Always for you, buddy, Yep, miss talking you.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Thanks kom Dog me as well. Take care. That's Ron Komer.
We call him. Koomb Dog used to be a regular
on this show a long long time ago. Got what
a guy. Let's make this the top of the hour pause.
I don't know if we're gonna do Top five at five,
Luigi's in the house, so we could do a little
Top five with Louis and then get into a lot
of hockey conversation. Opening night National Hockey League looks like
(46:31):
Florida two Blackhawks one at the end of period number
one in the first game of what I'm assuming he's
going to be an ESPN doubleheader, and we'll talk about
the McDavid developments. There's a lot to get to with Luigi,
some more wild injuries to discuss already, Questions for Louis
six four six eighty six The Bradshawn Bryant Cafe in
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