October 13, 2025 • 47 mins
Dan Barreiro opens the week explaining why the Vikings season begins now after the bye and international games. Jonny Athletic makes his weekly appearance to talk about the Vikings quarterback situation moving forward and a bit about the Wolves and NBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jesus, you're the season starts now leader fan Fan Radio Network,
you know what And k f a N dot com.
Two minutes and eleven seconds past three Central daylight time,
Welcome back, Monday edition, bumping a bupper program on a
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very I think, pleasant crisp weekday afternoon here in the
Twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul. My name is
Dan Barrerow, the likable host of the program guards. He
produces the show, and we will be with you. We going.
We got hockey tonight, so we out like a little
bit early. Is there any vikings programming you way to
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get a hit?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
No vikings program? Okay, so we're going the distance. There's
no vikings rewind because there was no game. They did
not play. They did not play. So we're going the distance.
Fifteen minute Fan on Demand then wildcare how about Friday?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Though, Well, of course you don't care because you're off completely.
But I mean, I'm assuming we're out at five. We
are for Golden Gold for a pregame, which is when
I'll start five o'clock. There you go, you're standing. That's outstanding.
Why not a lot to get into between Ben and
now I'll do my damnedest not to turn this into
the second consecutive day of Who's Your Hotline? But I'm
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not promising anything. I'll be honest, I'm not promising anything.
It could seep in every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm surprised Sinnicon's not here to co host a three
o'clock hour with a guest appearance from Courtney Cronin.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
He seems bored with it. Oh no, because you used
to consumed obsessed with the with the you know, a
boring victory over the Cleveland Browns. No, that's Cleveland Browns,
the Bengals, Bengals. It was the quarterback who used to
play for the Cleveland Browns, who, by the way, was hideous.
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In the first half. They had like I think the
Bengals had sixty nine yards total offense at halftime. Your
guy here, I'm being serious when I say I believe
you could have quarterbacked the way that he what's his name,
Joe Flacco. He's about to say Trent Dilfert. He's in
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the news too, by the way, more on that later.
The Flacco philosophy in the first half was I'm not
gonna get hit, right, so I'm getting rid of the ball.
If it's a three yard pass, is a three yard pass.
If it's four yards behind the line of scrimmage, I'm
still throwing it. They were awful. They did nothing. I
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think in four drives they had one first down and
then I don't know how this happens. I guess it's
why they play the game. Second half. They had their
first drive went for like seventeen minutes, and he was methodical.
I guess what all of us, including himself, yes, including
all of us watching. So yeah, they it was kind
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of a boring game. Yeah, the Sinnecon, this whole weekend
should be all about the Hoosiers. But maybe maybe a
fairness in five fairness in sinicon act. Maybe he was
and I just didn't know it. Not sure, Cronin according
Cronin another IU, Alum, I'm not sure. I'm not seen,
is she tweeted by she crowed much about it. I
don't know. I haven't checked. Yeah, I imagine, yes, Yeah,
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Like I said, if not, now, when when are you
gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
They might be too busy because she's on every show. Yeah,
she's a sideline reporter on radio broadcast. She's covering the Bears.
Very true. She might not even know that Indiana's doing
well again.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, there's no question about that. Brat Shawn and Brian
Kavan text line is open at six four six eight six.
Don't forget. We'll be joined by Johnny Athletic at three
point thirty today. Ben Lieber usually joins us on a
Monday after Vikings game, but there was no Vikings game,
so he's going to join tomorrow. Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
For tomorrow's same time right around four to four of
you will help us preview Eagles week liber will be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
What about Seaford do we know yet?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Seaford is tomorrow by phone at three thirdsn Yep, that hurts.
It's got some family stuff at four recordous yes, and
the offer to move days and the problem is our
days are messed up this week. H Mace is going
to be back in studio here seriously on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He texted me that today Lavelle is going to move
to Thursday because of the game on Friday. We only
have two hours, so we don't have a lot of
flexibility to move a lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
People, so we're trying to add some people to well whatever,
we'll make it all work for thirty Today our favorite
counter terror big knocker, Michael Hurley, his reaction to the
huge Middle East piece accord deal? Is it real? Is
it memory x? I don't think there's any question that
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it's wildly successful to the extent that the remaining hostages
have been freed. Can there's no one out there minimizing
that aspect of the story?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
There's no one? Please tell me there's no one minimizing? Well,
I don't know what really got accomplish it. That's a
huge accomplishment. Can we all agree on that? I think
it's pretty big. Yeah, it's awfully big. So we get
her reaction to all of it. I'm sure there's plenty
of video you can see of individual hostages who you know,
basically have been held hostage since October seventh and their
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first opportunities to meet their family. It's what one might expect.
It's about as emotional as one might expect. So four
point thirty for Michael Hurley, former CIA officer who's joined
us on geopolitical issues for quite some time, and he's
a Dina's own huge vikings group too. We may time
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try to talk some vikings as well. He'll have a
JJ McCarthy take for you, no doubt. I'm sure, no doubt.
Well that decisions, you know it's already been made, right,
You do know that you saw you you heard the
head coach. I thought I told that audios. I don't think.
I literally think there's less than a five percent chance
he plays this week. And by the way, that's a
that's not a referendum on him as a quarterback. Just
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listening to the head coach, I was actually bothered by
some of the audio. You did save it? You do
to one, you may play it even before we do
Top five, because I mean, did you listen to it?
It's like about three and a half, four minutes and
a half. Oh, he's not even last Yeah, and yes
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I did, like halfway through it. I'm going is JJ
McCarthy nine years old? I mean he's talking about this
and the lower body, it's mechanics and building blocks. Is
this his second year as a cour I mean it
just seemed odd to me, the whole thing, like we
had to start from you get back down to the
fundamentals early in the journey lower body. My god, Well,
if it's that early in the journey, then he shouldn't
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play at least not yet. Uh so I am flatly
predicting Carson Wentz not flatly predicting he's going to be great.
But I think, just listening to the head coach, I believe,
even though he won't say it yet, to Die has
indeed been cast. And there's a number of you, and
I know what you're up to. I understand the little game,
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the sly little game you're playing. How word are you
about all that talk about Signetty going back to his
native Pennsylvania. Life's too short. I mean, all I can
do is appreciate what he's done in Indiana and hope
and pray that Mark Cuban writes another check for another billion,
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because the word is he is now on their payroll,
and Cuban has finally acknowledged for the first time in
a long time, he's spending bonus bucks. Oh yeah on
the program. Well, no, this part's new. That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying. That he said he has not
contributed athletically for like twelve years, but that he is
now all in. So I want it to be a
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big amount, Like I think if he provided, if he
were to offer up another billion, I think you could
keep Signetti, dian't you?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
My tweet yesterday when we found out James Franklin was
going to get fired. Yes, is sig is about to
get that caprice Off money to stay?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yes? And I think they'll give it to him.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And if he if they do call him Penn State
we're talking about, and he plays the game, because he
could also just not play the game. But they all
played the game. And he just got ten million last year,
right or whatever it was, I don't remember what it was.
A yeah, but money, if you're a big ten program
and you want to keep your coach, money is not
really going to be an issue. But I think he'll
get your presoft money if they do call.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I think there's just very likely, and it's easier to
justify that if you can say we've got a billionaire,
you know, big shot for sure to write the check.
And then you don't have to get into the weeds
of well, we're supposed to be a state university. Let's
try to keep some sense of proportion. Even if that's
what universities would even attempt to do, you could at
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least hide behind that a little bit. So we'll see
where that goes. Season starts now, right, Can we all
agree that it's not just Eagles week, it's the start
of the regular season for the Minnesota Vikings. We laid
out I don't know if it was on sermons or
maybe even been late last week, that through five games,
the Vikings have played either the easiest or second easiest,
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and that's about to change in a big, big way.
Now I'm aware, don't text me. I know. Eagles look
more vulnerable than they did before. The Baltimore Ravens defense
is frightening. Quarterback hasn't played. He's expected to be backed
Lamar Jackson by the time the Vikings play the Ravens.
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That games here, isn't it it is? I thought so,
I get all that. But speaking of Seafert, he had
this nugget. You may have seen it. ESPN's Football Power Index.
Oh yeah, the FPI, the FPI index. As they come
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out of the buy, the Vikings have the NFL's most
difficult remaining schedule period full stop, end of story. They
will play five of the league's top ten teams as
ranked by FPI over the next eight weeks, and that,
of course, assumes that Lamar Jackson returns for week ten.
I don't give any doubt he'll be back. Now he
can't play defense. But let's be clear about something. What
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can help your defense look less awful an offense. They
have no offense right now. They can't score. In fact,
their backup quarterback I think I benched. He was the
former Cowboys quarterback who beat us at a night game.
I was there for that. I might have been one
of the last Vikings games I went to. Do you
know what I'm talking about. You're speaking of Cooper Rush
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he beat us here. Yes, I think on a Halloween night.
It was. You're right, it was definitely a night game
because I remember that part and I was there. I
don't even know why I was there, but I was.
And he looked awful. And then they went back to
whoever their third string quarterback is at hunting Tyler un
Tyler Huntley. He actually looked a little bit better. But
the Ravens aren't going to continue to be this bad.
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So this is what and what's interesting about the schedule
change is we've said it. They as far as I'm concerned,
they failed through five at three and two. They should
have at least been four and one. I might give
you one loss. I ain't gonna give you getting killed
at home by Atlanta. I'm not giving you that one.
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That's a bad, bad loss. So you win that game,
you're four and one, and you got a little bit more,
you know, equity and a little bit more. I guess
you could say interference if you start getting into a
stretch where you're losing some games. But now this is
when there's no sympathy. I don't think no one's gonna
have sympathy. Don't and also, don't text me about our
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offensive line. I know it, We've talked about it. We're
aware of it. Every say, every team in football. Look
at a number of the best teams in the league,
and if we spend as much time obsessing over their
injury list, we would be shocked because they all have
significant issues, sometimes at the quarterback position, sometimes offensive line,
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sometimes elsewhere. So it I have no sympathy for the
you know, hang with us now. You just have to
play a hell of a lot better than you have
to this point. In fact, I believe what do we
have three victories right now? Yes, three and two. The
combined record of the three teams we've beaten is five
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and eleven. The combined record of the two Big Ten
victories the teams the Gophers beaten is own six, not mistaken,
so you can make the same argument. I gets so
little for the Gophers that now, even though they're not
playing greatness every week, organ's coming. I know they're playing.
I assume Nebraska's record is better than owing three in
the Big Ten. Yeah, sample they're five and one in
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top twenty five. Now, okay, they undefeated that one loss.
I can't really remember if they lost or not. They
wanted a barn burner at Maryland last week, correct, yep,
that's what they're coming off of. So this is really
for both teams, you could say, but especially the Vikings.
I'm talking about this is it now, and I don't
know how much that enters into the head coach's decision
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making or thinking at the quarterback position. That's part of
what I want to get back to when we indeed return.
As I mentioned, lots of good texts already coming in.
We've got to believe it or not. And this might
be historic, our first Dairyland diary. And I don't know
how one wow, how long I should say, And I
don't understand what's happened to the Dairyland diary supply? Is
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it Wisconsin people aren't as weird as they used to be?
Or have we not properly conditioned people to come to
us with these stories to the extent that they once
did because we used to get inundated, we come to us,
We didn't have to look for them. Yeah, and now
I got one that I've been embargoing for several days.
It's a whopper, but it doesn't feel like we get
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them very often. Well, maybe this will reignite that flame.
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Do you think you can help us get Sig on
the show? How hard would it be this week? On
a scale of zero to one one hundred, how hard
would it be to get Kurt Signetti on the bumper
to bumper Broker? It's a zero, isn't it? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Zero point five? I mean, nothing's ever impossible. Do they
play this week or do they have a buye. No,
I think they host. I believe they host Michigan State
this week. I think they just had their buy So
I don't think they're buying this week.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, this week would be tough.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, this week would be tough, but we can always ask.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Maybe just got some inside. I mean he's he's much
closer to it. He bleeds cream and Crimson actually a
lot more than I do, as much as I kid
about it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yep, he was over the moon Saturday. I saw him.
I mean, best coach in the country or the moon?
How much google me? You talk about any of those?
You talk about Cuban. I'm worried Bosa's just retired, right, Yes,
I'm worried about him bleeding his four oh one K
into the nil fund like he worked hard.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I don't think that's all beyond the aunt to make.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Sure he's got he doesn't lose his nest egg because
he's trying to get next year's great defensive line.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Here's what he texted me as it became apparent that
Indiana was going to k knock off orgon the first
time in the history of the school that they've beaten
a top five team on the road and I think
only the second time they've ever beaten a top five
team anywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
They were the last Big ten team to beat Oregon
by the way, they were going back to like four.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, you're right, that's true. But anyway, here's the text
he sent to me was if you were here, I
would kiss you. That's how emotional Bozic this thing. Yeah,
and of course I have been kissing a press box
by Patrick Royci. That's right. We actually originally had some
hope of having him in studio today, but he's he's
battling some knee issues. More on that later, so we
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may try to squeeze him in at some point. Bumper
to bumper is the name of the program, and I'll
ask you the question. So if you buy that the
schedule is now serious, and it is, it certainly appears
to be on a number of levels. Even look, I
mean the Eagles, I get it they look a little
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bit out of whack yep, but the wee Eagles looked
out of whack a bunch last year. They do that,
they tend to do that, and they handle it well.
I think they're one of those teams that handles disarray well.
Our brand is crisis that's the Eagles way. That's it.
But here's the kicker. They've been terrible on the ground.
You got to believe they're thinking, well, this is the
week our best running back runs for two.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Hundred yards, right right? They watched the Bijon Robinson exactly
exactly from a few weeks ago, and so how do
we do that?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Does any do you think any of this will enter
into the head coach Koc's decision making as it pertains
to the quarterback call, like who they're playing? Yeah, like
like that, Okay, well now we got we are margin
ferrere is reduced? Yeah, so does that make it more likely?
Says I can't experiment yet.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes, I think it does. And Carson Wentz it's going
to be when twine Bay goes, is what you're saying. Yeah,
I think it does. I definitely think it does. Because
the other part, too, is if you did have if
you did have a great week on the grass last week,
which is one of my favorite KOC phrases, just say
practice yes, like I know every I know my coach
does it too. You have all these flowery phrases, you
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got to use them.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
But if he did have such a great week in practice,
Like how difficult? Wouldn't it have been easy to just go?
And we're excited to have JJ back. He's going to
be the starter. I know, maybe I'm asking for too much.
Maybe that doesn't happen coming off of buy. I'm sure
they'll be at some point. He's got to tell somebody.
I don't know if be Wednesday, whenever they reconvene, But
because it just seems like the longer you don't hear
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that it's JJ, the more like Carson, right, So I
think it does enter into his I think it has
entered into his thinking that we can't really screw around.
We can't waste any time, we can't worry about if
his lower body mechanics are going to be out of
whack because he's only practiced once since he had a kid.
We got to try to win this game somehow, and
Wentz is maybe our best chance to do it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So we're going to go with that. What is the
what's happened to our guy? Seferd He's gonna be on
tomorrow by phone? Yes, I mean did you see his tweet?
It's video JJ McCarthy out here chest bumping dudes. Oh
that people like that. That's what we're that's what we're
down to here, looking for clicks. Must be fit, must
be ready to go. I'll be honest with you. The
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video I've seen, he doesn't even look like he's walking
straight yet. Really, no, I don't think so. And again
that doesn't make him a bad person. But in this case,
I think the debate is going to be rendered moot.
I really do. I think that even if the head
coach is ready and it's going to force feed this thing,
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I think his decision is going to be made largely
because there's not gonna be McCarthy. He even brought it
up in one of the audio bits I saw. He's
practiced basically once, yeah, in the last three weeks. Right,
So I think that to that extent it takes the
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pressure off him, and that the decision is not really
a decision other than one made on medical grounds that
indicates it's not time. Even if I want him to
be ready, I can't force him to be ready. And
I'm the whisperer. I've said, what, organizations fail quarterbacks more
often than young quarterbacks fail organizations. Yep. So I'm not
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gonna then turn around and be a hypocrite and try
to rush a guy act when he is physically not
ready to play.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The other thing I do think would factor into it.
I think I talked about this on enough set. On Friday,
they play the Chargers a week from Thursday. It's a
short week on the other side, so I'm wondering too. Yes, yeah,
I'm sure they don't want to. I'm guessing whoever they
play Sunday, they're gonna want to play on Thursday. Again,
I'd have to go back and think about precedent for well,
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in other situation.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It's the only exception. I would say. Let's say the
Vikings get killed and Wentz throws two picks. It is terrible,
and then you say, kid, well you gotta play, you
gotta get ready, you got to do it. But again,
he's got to be physically ready to go. Yep, And
I'm just not sure that he's going to be. I'm
reminded that it's homecoming week at EYU. You could tie
in the whole alumni thing to get signetti on the air.
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I don't have a good vibe with him. I got nothing,
I got no Indiana connections at this point. Unfortunately, they're
all gone and he's a national darling. Now that's the problem. Yeah,
And to be honest, he's a hard interview. Oh yeah,
because he's a gruff dude. He can be kind of entertaining,
but you gotta know where to go. And it depends
on his mood a little bit, and sometimes you're like, Okay,
I don't want to play anymore. Signetti just gonna make
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a couple of good comments.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm not sure on game week he's ready to have
a Berrero conversation, you know. No, when he's surging towards
the college football playoff, guy, I don't think he's ready
for a Barrero conversation.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Michigan coach is also going to get fired. They'll be
coming after Signetti too. Also if Allabama loses another game
or two or LSU in addition to Penn State Lincoln
Riley after they lose a Notre Dame game. On By
the way, Lincoln Riley had a nice victory over Michigan.
That's true. The carousel. I thought this called the Michigan
quarterback was the.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Best in history. He's good, but he's also six. Like
that's the thing we have to remember. And yeah, I
was not surprised they lost to us.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
See.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I watched him play against Wisconsin two weeks ago, did
not come away like overly impressed. But this Penn State,
whenever there's a big dog in the coaching carousel, a
lot of stuff ends up happening. There's just a domino
effect unlike any other coaching search. So it's gonna be wild.
And by the way, I think it's idiotic that they
fired James Franklin. We don't have time to get into
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it now, but I just was it really fifty mili?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah? Forty nine? So where does that come from? Where
do they make that up? I really do want to know.
I'll ask Mace about that when he joins Wednesdays. The
theory is you get a couple of boosters that just
like Cuban types and they go, we'll split it all
right twenty five. Yeah, that's the theory because there's no
other way it can be justified, if it can be
justified at all, and you don't think it can be. Theoretically, yes,
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it's there's no way to justify, but it might just be.
I mean, well, the precedent of what's happened there it
is an unbelieva I mean, the bottom has fallen out.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Fifteen days ago he was getting ready for the whiteout
game in a Top ten matchup against Oregon, which was
a good game. They lost in double overtime. Yes, and
then they.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Since then got killed by UCLA there right, and now
UCLA turn around and destroyed Michigan State. They did on
the road on the road with what's his name's kid,
Jerry new Heeiseel new Heisel yep, and the Northwestern I
know that's a tough one. This is not a terrible team,
but you can't obviously, you can't lose that game. So anyway,
let's break, We'll come back Johnny Athletic. There's a lot
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to get caught up on with Johnny. We'll get into
the Vikings and Eagles week for sure, a couple of
other very controversial issues. If you have questions for him. Bratschew,
Brian Kafee and text line is open at six four
six eight. It's time, Johnny, Johnny ahead ache right now.
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Johnny Athletic to you each and every week. Johnny, are
you looking these days for a light beach read even
though we're kind of post beach season. It's almost fall,
or it is fall.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I have a recommendation for Oh, please send it along,
because I'll be, as you know, beyond some.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Flights, a lot of coming up here.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Chris crossed in the globe, following the wolves around, So
why not?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That'd be great.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I mean, this is the kind of book where you say,
I just want to lose myself in it. I don't
want it to get too heavy. I don't need anything
too serious right now. I want to laugh, maybe cry
a little bit, maybe get scared, but not in a
fundamentally scary way. This is the this is the book
the Exorcist. I'm rereading The Exorcists. I'm fifty five years
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after I think it came out. I think it came
out the book in seventy one actually, and I haven't
read it, I'd say, in at least forty years. And
let me tell you it's it's it's not light, it's
not beachy what. I don't know what, you know what
it was? I think Halloween's coming. I like the scare
tactic stuff. I liked the movie. I liked the book.
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When it ca I read re read the books. Yeah,
it holds up and it's creepy. Not gonna lie, it's
still creepy this long after.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I was gonna ask why you inflicted on yourself. I
guess tis the season. But let me ask you, this
is the book as scary as the movie in terms,
you know, lots of times the book is more way
better than the movie. But it's such a visual, yes,
kind of entity. I just wonder like it is the
book as as creeped out as the movie.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well, for a lot of people, the movie version ended
their affection for pea soup because the vomit scenes involving
I think Linda Blair was the actress. Everything seemed to
come out like split pea soup. It was gross. A
lot of people at that point swore off that particular soup,
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which I love. I'm a big split pea soup guy.
I will tell you this. I thought the movie was
very well done. It was, you know, visually jarring for
its time, certainly, But I think the Bookook is really
really good. I think William Peter Blattie, I think, is
the guy who wrote it. I don't even know if
he's still alive, but I think, because as always with books,
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you can flesh out some things that you can't quite
fit into a two hour film. And it's so Yeah,
if you just want to, like I said, just let
loose a little bit, you know, and just just kind
of relax, kick back, Like if you're like on a
lounge share in a beach in Manhattan Beach, when you're
following the wolves to La that's the that's the book
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you want. As you look out in the ocean and
see the swaying palm trees, that's the book you want
to go to The Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yes, looking for.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Some tranquilities, looking to kind of center myself a little bit. Yeah,
I mean it's a it's a great recommendation. I'll definitely
have to head down to the library.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And if you don't, I know guards you will. Yeah,
I love it. You love horror films, you love horror books. Well,
I was going to say that Kilbourn probably knows the
producer of The exorcistem probably have dinner at d'antana's with
them after you read the book.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
He already has very true.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Awesome, I'm definitely gonna be looking Lord Kilby up. We'll
be over there out there in you know, less than
two weeks.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
No, I can't wait for that or maybe two ten days.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Let me ask you before we get to a lot
of football, let me ask you a a toss up
pro basketball question that is really deep, I think, and
is larger than just any one team. And it goes
back to the Kawhi Leonard story, not the story regarding
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the tree hugging company that he was allegedly a part of,
not doing any any real promotion. That's still got him
fifty million dollars or whatever it's supposed to be. But
I go back to, you know, his injury history again.
Last year he ended up I believe when when we're
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talking about international, didn't he end up basically getting dismissed
or basically I thought the people who ran the international
body for pro basketball or the US team basically said
he's not healthy enough this he shouldn't, we can't, We're
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not going to make a part of this team. And
the story I was told was Clippers guy. I can't
remember who the general manager would have been. Yes that
Lawrence Frank went off basically on how dare you know?
How dare you go?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
You know?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
How to question him? Et cetera, et cetera, and It
was used in a story I can't remember who wrote
the story, basically saying, here's an example of one of
the problems this league has right now in that Frank
may have felt differently, but felt obligated to protect the player,
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to be on the player's side, because the dirty little
secret that gets reinforced year after year is that it's
getting harder and harder. Well, i'll tell you I heard
talking about sam Mitchell. Sam Mitchell said the Clippers should
have said you're not playing, you're not capable of playing,
but that there's so much fear in twenty twenty five
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that the truth of the matter is a lot of
general managers aren't really even general managers anymore. Do you
agree with that premise?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah, I do, Dan, and I will say, though, to
be fair like, it is selective in terms of which one.
So there are certain players that do not require that
sort of kid glove, you know, CoDeeN however you want
to term it. Anthony Edwards is one of those. Steph
Curry Jokic. You know, there's plenty of examples of megawatt
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stars who are not the high maintenance type that way.
But it is well known around the league that there
are many that are, including Kawhi Leonard and including Lebron James,
including you know many you know, big name players out
there that have turned being a lead executive and and
a head coach oftentimes as well in this league into
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much more of a diplomatic post than you know, a
pron office leader than a head coach, those types of things.
Do the money that these guys are making, you are
more beholden to them than ever to try and keep
them happy, to try and keep them feeling supported. And
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I think in general, a lot of the guys who
require that extra The Joel Embiid is another one. The
crew will require that extra kind of effort and care
typically falls short when you really need them. But but yeah,
if you were to take a straw pole or you know,
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an anonymous pole of executives around the league, they would
tell you that there's many of them out there that
loose sleep at night and swallow their pride on a
daily basis.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
In catering to some.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Of these guys because of just the way that things
are run, it's it is difficult for some gms.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Jannis is a player who around the league, I think
generally speaking, has a very good is developed a very
good reputation, right. He works. He's talented, but he works
no nonsense in that regard. The question on the table
really along these same lines is whether this is a
bad look where he's got I think two years left
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on his contract after this year or maybe including this year.
You may know better than me on his contract scooting
this year, so that's still a lot of time. He's
not close to free agency. And he holds a presser
when he finally addresses the issues of rumors about the
Knicks talking to them and some other to whoever else,
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and he says, no, no, I'm all in this now.
You know, in six months, you know, I'm allowed to
change my mind, and I'm going I think that's also
the kind of stuff that, even if it's a great player,
people go, what are you doing? If don't bother saying
you're all in? Then if you're going to say, but
I could change my mind of six months, because that
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will still be this season potentially, I saw. I think
it is another tentacle of what we're talking about here.
I get it. If you're one of five and you're
a superstar, you control a lot in a basketball game
compared to some other sports. I still don't think that's
a very good look for him either.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah, it is tough, Dan, because I mean, I am
with you in terms of I'm an enormous Yannis fan.
I love the way that he goes about his business
and what he's meant to Milwaukee, and the way that
generally speaking, over these ten twelve years, he has spurned
sort of the NBA media machine of suggestions you have
to get out of there, you have to get out
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of there. No, he's stuck there, won a championship, did
all those things. It's clear right now at this stage
of his career he is trying to apply pressure publicly
and privately to the Bucks to continue to invest, to
try and make player moves so that they can try
and get back to championship level, which they are not
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right now, and I think he's doing it clumsily. I
agree with you because I think there are so many
times we have seen Giannis in press conference situations speak
so eloquently, so thoughtfully about whatever the issue is of
the day, and he's remarkable with it.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
But this one is tougher.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Now he can say, look, I've been here, I've put
in twelve years with this team. I've stayed through thick
and thin, We've won a title. I deserve to have
some freedom, and he does. But you are already seeing
what the Bucks are doing. Number one, they got rid
of Damian Lillard and ate a bunch of his money
so they could go get Miles Turner. But then they've
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signed both of Jannis's brother Like, if Jannis has a sister,
they'd probably sign her to play. Like, I mean, that's
that's just like the catering that they are trying to do,
the bending over backward, and that's the kind of stuff
where you're looking at it like, all right, man, is
this is this really how.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
A professional organization should run? No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
But Giannis is the sun, moon and the stars in Milwaukee,
and if you leave, if he leaves, you got to
start over, and you're really bottoming out. And so there's
desperation there. And yeah, I wish Giannis was smoother with
how he handled it, or maybe just a little more
discreet with it. But but yeah, that that that's the
name of the game. And everyone in the league is
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watching and waiting and they're going to be saying, hey, honest,
you said six months what about four months, how about
two months?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah? Are you?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Now? It's going to be a thing all season long.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
He's making fifty four million, one hundred and twenty six,
four hundred and fifty dollars this year. He will make
fifty eight million, four hundred and fifty six thousand, five
hundred and sixty six dollars next year, and then he's
got a player option twenty seven twenty eight at sixty two,
seven hundred eighty six, six hundred and eight two bucks.
It's an old cliche about you do want players now
want it both ways. I'm gonna go ahead and lock
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in on the money when you give it to me,
but I'm still going to reserve the right to flirt
with other teams after the fact because you know, again,
you had players leave like Lebron for example, Durant, right,
and we can argue about whether he should have gone
to Golden State, but he was approaching free agency.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Correct, So yeah, the free agents.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, he was a free agent. So to me, that
that's the distinction here, that's that's that's fair to draw.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. And and here's the
the changing landscape of the league now with the second
aprons that we've talked about in the In the much
greater restrictions on transacting in the league that Tim Connolly
has told you about on your show and told us
as well, it's it is making it much harder now.
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There was a time, I'm Dan where a player X
could sign a five year deal and just say, all right,
that's fine, I'll just get traded if I'm unhappy in
a year, and that sometimes happened, where they request to
trade a year later or something like that. You're thinking, wow,
how is this going? But it usually happened. Nowadays it's
much harder to trade players, especially once making fifty five
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sixty seventy million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
And so I do think that.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Part of it too is now the frustration on the
players a little bit that they've lost a little bit
more of control of being able to have their cake
and eat it too. They they're going to have to
be a little more cutthroat, and they'll take a little
bit more of a risk, I think with shorter deals
or going all the way to the end of their
contract before they can really exert a lot of leverage.
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Unless you want to be Jimmy Butler and just blow
everything up within an organization.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Fair enough, let's talk some football. I've got a lot
of good text of coming in several of them for you,
specifically regarding Eagles week and the Vikings quarterback call for
this week. That's going to be the a topic for sure,
Marshall writes for Minnetonka, A question for you, why are
so many people saying we have to figure out if
JJ is the guy this season? He's twenty two, Jordan
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lovestaff for three years. This is a winning business and
this team was built to win. Now, Wentz clearly gives
them the best chance to do that. Let me give
you one other one and then you can go in
any direction you'd like. This is from seven to one. Oh,
it's from flim Flamm.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Wentz versus Eagles is a better quarterback barometer than McCarthy
versus Eagles.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's only worth starting McCarthy if you think he is
capable of having a franchise quarterback type performance against Philly.
He'll be active as the backup before he starts too bad.
JJ starts too bad. JJ starts just can't solidify the gig.
Not that my leash slash toe slash rope on Wentz.
Wentz Winnebago is fastened that tight, so fire away.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah, I would say, like I understand the point of like, look,
JJ is still young enough that you have time to
start to figure this thing out and you don't have
to make a decision this season. But I do think
one of the things that one of the reasons the
Vikings went with JJ McCarthy versus Sam Darnold and paying
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him thirty million or whatever, is that if you have
a starting quarterback who is making on that rookie deal,
that is how you leverage those years with building around him,
spending money talent wise so that you can ideally win
right now. And it doesn't mean that you have to
make that decision within one year or two years, but
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it certainly does help if by going into year three
you really have a good idea on can this guy
do it or not. I think it would be difficult
for the Vikings if they got through this entire year
and you know, barring a Wentz just explosion, you know,
Keenum like, and they're going to the NFC title game
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with him, if it's a nine win season or an
eight win season at the end and McCarthy hasn't played
much at all. That's where I think you lose some
advantage in terms of evaluation, in terms of roster building,
in terms of decision making, and so I do think
that there is you'd like to see in the absence
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of a huge step up in Wentz's game, which he's
been good, but I don't think he's been great yet.
I just think that you want to eventually get back
to JJ if it's if this season.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Is going to be a middling season.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
If not, then you ride Wentz as long as you can, or,
as I've said before, maybe Wentz gets hurt again or
maybe he struggles, and then you just go back to
McCarthy organically and let it play out that way. But
I agree with the color in some respect that I
don't think you have to rush it right now, but
I do think that you want to have a little
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bit better idea by the end of the season where
you're going in the next three to four years.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Again, I think in this case it may become academic
because if koc is going to be as cautious rightly
as he says he's going to be about the physical
readiness of the player, then that will make his decision
for him, and I think it already looks a little
bit that way for this week. Again, where it gets
funky is if Wentz is good to very good and
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the Vikings knock off the Eagles, you probably have to
play him against the Chargers that next Thursday night, I think.
And then it extends the problem, your problem that you're
talking about, which is, well, God, we got to get
to him. What are we going to get to McCarthy.
On the other hand, I'd say, if you're if you
keep winning, you'll accept that trade off, even if it's
not what was in the blueprint. And the other way
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is Wentz comes back to the pack, which he's very
likely probably will will at some point, and at that
point he's healthier. McCarthy's healthier, healthier, he's watched a little
bit more, and he's ready to quote unquote come to
the rescue.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Totally.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
And that's where I think right now, coming out of
this buy, the Vikings are actually in a little bit
of an ideal situation in that you have two games
in five days coming out of the buy, and that
in and of.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Itself gives you cover.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Cannot have to rush McCarthy back out there. You can
reasonably and very responsibly say that, hey, we just don't
want to he's missed some time. We don't want to
put him in that situation where he's playing two games
in five days and we're gonna let this thing play
out to make sure that we are taking care of
him and giving him the best chance. And so you
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do not have to rush any of this. It can
just unfold, you know, naturally, in terms of whether you
continue riding. Once if he beats the Eagles and beats
the Chargers, you've probably got to keep going with him
because this team is built to win now. But if
somewhere along the line he either is injured or he
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slips and has a rough one, then you can go
back to McCarthy when he presumably is a little healthier,
when hopefully your offensive line is a little healthier, and
you again get back to where you were at the
start of the season, where you hope that you give
this young man the best chance to succeed while he's
out there, and the best chance to get a true
evaluation is when he's healthy, when as many people around
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him are as healthy as possible.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Is Johnny Athletic on today merely to mock Wild Nation
after Game two while he can before the Wolves take
the court. That's from Allen in Afton.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
I would love to do it, but I certainly can't
do it this early in the season, in an eighty
two game season, man, Like you know, yes, I think
they were planning the parade road after the win over
Saint Louis and then got brought back down to earth.
But you know, even the most disingenuous of me can't
just like dance on a grave after one bad game
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at home, even if it.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Was a bit of a buzzkill.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
So I will as my gift to the Wild fans
that will take it easy on them this week.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Do you have a would you like to place into
circulation your nominee to become the next manager of the
Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
So I am so with you, Dan in terms of
I think you're on with this. It's like the next
year is going to be a dumpster fire or gonna
be boring, I would say, and gonna be apathetic. And
there's not going to be a whole lot to interest anyone,
I don't think. And and they're the the ballpark's going
to be empty, so let's jazz it up. Let's put
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aj Prizinskiler, Let's put ozy Gie in in there. Let's
get someone who is going to be throwing bases and tantrums,
someone who is going to be throwing players under the bus,
someone who's gonna be making controversial statements to get some attention.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Because this thing is going the wrong way.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
And I would hate to see I really like Justin Morno,
I would really like Tory Hunter.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I'd hate to see them.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
Yeah, put in that position and just have to suffer
through something like that. So give me, give me a
live wire, give me someone that you just never know
what they're going to say or do when you get
to the ballpark, and see if you can sell some
tickets that way.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, that's about the uh. I think that's pretty much
what we're left with. The only question is whether those
individuals are too smart to go to a program where
they feel like, well, we're bound, I'm bound to fail.
I guess that gets back to if you're desperate enough
to become a manager for the first time or a
manager again, you take whatever's there. But I think that's
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the other issue is what smart savvy ball guy as
a manager, He's gonna sit and let's he sits down
and gets the vision of where this thing is going
and saying, wait a minute now, So why should I
allow myself to be thrown to the wolves this year
sacrificed unless you've got something, You've got a plan to
show me that this might actually be going someplace in
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two or three years.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah, I agree, And when you look at it, I
know that there's only a finite number of these jobs, right,
and so I mean, you can't be too picky about it.
But I think that if.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
You are a young, you know, kind of coach that's
coming up, that's well thought of, that's think about the
next big thing, or you are a kind of more
of a star free agent, veteran guy who's won a
lot of other places and is going to have his choice.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I don't know why you would choose here.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
You're coming to a situation where there is a lot
of animosity among the fan base. You're coming to a
situation where you really don't think that there's going to
be an incredible amount of investment from ownership, and that
any sort of winning will be probably a lot based
on luck and and things like that. And so if
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you want to really have a chance to have any
longevity in the profession, and you're not just expert to
take any job. I would think that this would be
one of the least desirable situation that's out there right
now in terms of opening.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Let me know, once you hit the road and you
crack open the Exorciste and finish that thing, let me
know what you.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Think I will.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
I usually like to sleep on planes, and I might
have some nightmares if I know you read a couple
of chapters in that and then dozed off.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
But you know, hey, you know, get busy living.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Or get hunt yourself. Yeah every while, so can it
chapt yourself upset the apple cart a little bit? You know,
so I did too much? Otherwise, too much apathy sets in.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Maybe i'll yeah, And would you recommend I might like.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I've been looking for.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
Another book that I can read with the kids, like
before bedtime.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Maybe that's that would be good too for them.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Right, we just curl up, you know, in my daughter's
bedroom and read a few chapters and then let her
doze off to sleep peacefully.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
That'd be nice, I.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Think, yeah, they they might doze off. I don't think
it'll be very peaceful at that point, it can at
least be selective about what dialogue you read drum in
which dialogue you decide might be left for a later time.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
I'll keep that in mind and I'll run it by
the wife as well.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
There you go, thanks man. That's Johnny Athletic, brought to
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Welcome back, Monday edition, bumping a bupper program on a
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Dan Barrerow, the likable host of the program guards. He
produces the show, and we will be with you. We going.
We got hockey tonight, so we out like a little
bit early. Is there any vikings programming you way to
(00:45):
get a hit?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
No vikings program? Okay, so we're going the distance. There's
no vikings rewind because there was no game. They did
not play. They did not play. So we're going the distance.
Fifteen minute Fan on Demand then wildcare how about Friday?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Though, Well, of course you don't care because you're off completely.
But I mean, I'm assuming we're out at five. We
are for Golden Gold for a pregame, which is when
I'll start five o'clock. There you go, you're standing. That's outstanding.
Why not a lot to get into between Ben and
now I'll do my damnedest not to turn this into
the second consecutive day of Who's Your Hotline? But I'm
(01:17):
not promising anything. I'll be honest, I'm not promising anything.
It could seep in every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm surprised Sinnicon's not here to co host a three
o'clock hour with a guest appearance from Courtney Cronin.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
He seems bored with it. Oh no, because you used
to consumed obsessed with the with the you know, a
boring victory over the Cleveland Browns. No, that's Cleveland Browns,
the Bengals, Bengals. It was the quarterback who used to
play for the Cleveland Browns, who, by the way, was hideous.
(01:50):
In the first half. They had like I think the
Bengals had sixty nine yards total offense at halftime. Your
guy here, I'm being serious when I say I believe
you could have quarterbacked the way that he what's his name,
Joe Flacco. He's about to say Trent Dilfert. He's in
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the news too, by the way, more on that later.
The Flacco philosophy in the first half was I'm not
gonna get hit, right, so I'm getting rid of the ball.
If it's a three yard pass, is a three yard pass.
If it's four yards behind the line of scrimmage, I'm
still throwing it. They were awful. They did nothing. I
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think in four drives they had one first down and
then I don't know how this happens. I guess it's
why they play the game. Second half. They had their
first drive went for like seventeen minutes, and he was methodical.
I guess what all of us, including himself, yes, including
all of us watching. So yeah, they it was kind
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of a boring game. Yeah, the Sinnecon, this whole weekend
should be all about the Hoosiers. But maybe maybe a
fairness in five fairness in sinicon act. Maybe he was
and I just didn't know it. Not sure, Cronin according
Cronin another IU, Alum, I'm not sure. I'm not seen,
is she tweeted by she crowed much about it. I
don't know. I haven't checked. Yeah, I imagine, yes, Yeah,
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Like I said, if not, now, when when are you
gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
They might be too busy because she's on every show. Yeah,
she's a sideline reporter on radio broadcast. She's covering the Bears.
Very true. She might not even know that Indiana's doing
well again.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, there's no question about that. Brat Shawn and Brian
Kavan text line is open at six four six eight six.
Don't forget. We'll be joined by Johnny Athletic at three
point thirty today. Ben Lieber usually joins us on a
Monday after Vikings game, but there was no Vikings game,
so he's going to join tomorrow. Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
For tomorrow's same time right around four to four of
you will help us preview Eagles week liber will be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
What about Seaford do we know yet?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Seaford is tomorrow by phone at three thirdsn Yep, that hurts.
It's got some family stuff at four recordous yes, and
the offer to move days and the problem is our
days are messed up this week. H Mace is going
to be back in studio here seriously on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He texted me that today Lavelle is going to move
to Thursday because of the game on Friday. We only
have two hours, so we don't have a lot of
flexibility to move a lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
People, so we're trying to add some people to well whatever,
we'll make it all work for thirty Today our favorite
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it's wildly successful to the extent that the remaining hostages
have been freed. Can there's no one out there minimizing
that aspect of the story?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
There's no one? Please tell me there's no one minimizing? Well,
I don't know what really got accomplish it. That's a
huge accomplishment. Can we all agree on that? I think
it's pretty big. Yeah, it's awfully big. So we get
her reaction to all of it. I'm sure there's plenty
of video you can see of individual hostages who you know,
basically have been held hostage since October seventh and their
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first opportunities to meet their family. It's what one might expect.
It's about as emotional as one might expect. So four
point thirty for Michael Hurley, former CIA officer who's joined
us on geopolitical issues for quite some time, and he's
a Dina's own huge vikings group too. We may time
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try to talk some vikings as well. He'll have a
JJ McCarthy take for you, no doubt. I'm sure, no doubt.
Well that decisions, you know it's already been made, right,
You do know that you saw you you heard the
head coach. I thought I told that audios. I don't think.
I literally think there's less than a five percent chance
he plays this week. And by the way, that's a
that's not a referendum on him as a quarterback. Just
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listening to the head coach, I was actually bothered by
some of the audio. You did save it? You do
to one, you may play it even before we do
Top five, because I mean, did you listen to it?
It's like about three and a half, four minutes and
a half. Oh, he's not even last Yeah, and yes
(06:14):
I did, like halfway through it. I'm going is JJ
McCarthy nine years old? I mean he's talking about this
and the lower body, it's mechanics and building blocks. Is
this his second year as a cour I mean it
just seemed odd to me, the whole thing, like we
had to start from you get back down to the
fundamentals early in the journey lower body. My god, Well,
if it's that early in the journey, then he shouldn't
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play at least not yet. Uh so I am flatly
predicting Carson Wentz not flatly predicting he's going to be great.
But I think, just listening to the head coach, I believe,
even though he won't say it yet, to Die has
indeed been cast. And there's a number of you, and
I know what you're up to. I understand the little game,
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the sly little game you're playing. How word are you
about all that talk about Signetty going back to his
native Pennsylvania. Life's too short. I mean, all I can
do is appreciate what he's done in Indiana and hope
and pray that Mark Cuban writes another check for another billion,
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because the word is he is now on their payroll,
and Cuban has finally acknowledged for the first time in
a long time, he's spending bonus bucks. Oh yeah on
the program. Well, no, this part's new. That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying. That he said he has not
contributed athletically for like twelve years, but that he is
now all in. So I want it to be a
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big amount, Like I think if he provided, if he
were to offer up another billion, I think you could
keep Signetti, dian't you?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
My tweet yesterday when we found out James Franklin was
going to get fired. Yes, is sig is about to
get that caprice Off money to stay?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yes? And I think they'll give it to him.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And if he if they do call him Penn State
we're talking about, and he plays the game, because he
could also just not play the game. But they all
played the game. And he just got ten million last year,
right or whatever it was, I don't remember what it was.
A yeah, but money, if you're a big ten program
and you want to keep your coach, money is not
really going to be an issue. But I think he'll
get your presoft money if they do call.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I think there's just very likely, and it's easier to
justify that if you can say we've got a billionaire,
you know, big shot for sure to write the check.
And then you don't have to get into the weeds
of well, we're supposed to be a state university. Let's
try to keep some sense of proportion. Even if that's
what universities would even attempt to do, you could at
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least hide behind that a little bit. So we'll see
where that goes. Season starts now, right, Can we all
agree that it's not just Eagles week, it's the start
of the regular season for the Minnesota Vikings. We laid
out I don't know if it was on sermons or
maybe even been late last week, that through five games,
the Vikings have played either the easiest or second easiest,
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and that's about to change in a big, big way.
Now I'm aware, don't text me. I know. Eagles look
more vulnerable than they did before. The Baltimore Ravens defense
is frightening. Quarterback hasn't played. He's expected to be backed
Lamar Jackson by the time the Vikings play the Ravens.
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That games here, isn't it it is? I thought so,
I get all that. But speaking of Seafert, he had
this nugget. You may have seen it. ESPN's Football Power Index.
Oh yeah, the FPI, the FPI index. As they come
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out of the buy, the Vikings have the NFL's most
difficult remaining schedule period full stop, end of story. They
will play five of the league's top ten teams as
ranked by FPI over the next eight weeks, and that,
of course, assumes that Lamar Jackson returns for week ten.
I don't give any doubt he'll be back. Now he
can't play defense. But let's be clear about something. What
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can help your defense look less awful an offense. They
have no offense right now. They can't score. In fact,
their backup quarterback I think I benched. He was the
former Cowboys quarterback who beat us at a night game.
I was there for that. I might have been one
of the last Vikings games I went to. Do you
know what I'm talking about. You're speaking of Cooper Rush
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he beat us here. Yes, I think on a Halloween night.
It was. You're right, it was definitely a night game
because I remember that part and I was there. I
don't even know why I was there, but I was.
And he looked awful. And then they went back to
whoever their third string quarterback is at hunting Tyler un
Tyler Huntley. He actually looked a little bit better. But
the Ravens aren't going to continue to be this bad.
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So this is what and what's interesting about the schedule
change is we've said it. They as far as I'm concerned,
they failed through five at three and two. They should
have at least been four and one. I might give
you one loss. I ain't gonna give you getting killed
at home by Atlanta. I'm not giving you that one.
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That's a bad, bad loss. So you win that game,
you're four and one, and you got a little bit more,
you know, equity and a little bit more. I guess
you could say interference if you start getting into a
stretch where you're losing some games. But now this is
when there's no sympathy. I don't think no one's gonna
have sympathy. Don't and also, don't text me about our
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offensive line. I know it, We've talked about it. We're
aware of it. Every say, every team in football. Look
at a number of the best teams in the league,
and if we spend as much time obsessing over their
injury list, we would be shocked because they all have
significant issues, sometimes at the quarterback position, sometimes offensive line,
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sometimes elsewhere. So it I have no sympathy for the
you know, hang with us now. You just have to
play a hell of a lot better than you have
to this point. In fact, I believe what do we
have three victories right now? Yes, three and two. The
combined record of the three teams we've beaten is five
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and eleven. The combined record of the two Big Ten
victories the teams the Gophers beaten is own six, not mistaken,
so you can make the same argument. I gets so
little for the Gophers that now, even though they're not
playing greatness every week, organ's coming. I know they're playing.
I assume Nebraska's record is better than owing three in
the Big Ten. Yeah, sample they're five and one in
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top twenty five. Now, okay, they undefeated that one loss.
I can't really remember if they lost or not. They
wanted a barn burner at Maryland last week, correct, yep,
that's what they're coming off of. So this is really
for both teams, you could say, but especially the Vikings.
I'm talking about this is it now, and I don't
know how much that enters into the head coach's decision
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making or thinking at the quarterback position. That's part of
what I want to get back to when we indeed return.
As I mentioned, lots of good texts already coming in.
We've got to believe it or not. And this might
be historic, our first Dairyland diary. And I don't know
how one wow, how long I should say, And I
don't understand what's happened to the Dairyland diary supply? Is
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it Wisconsin people aren't as weird as they used to be?
Or have we not properly conditioned people to come to
us with these stories to the extent that they once
did because we used to get inundated, we come to us,
We didn't have to look for them. Yeah, and now
I got one that I've been embargoing for several days.
It's a whopper, but it doesn't feel like we get
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them very often. Well, maybe this will reignite that flame.
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Do you think you can help us get Sig on
the show? How hard would it be this week? On
a scale of zero to one one hundred, how hard
would it be to get Kurt Signetti on the bumper
to bumper Broker? It's a zero, isn't it? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Zero point five? I mean, nothing's ever impossible. Do they
play this week or do they have a buye. No,
I think they host. I believe they host Michigan State
this week. I think they just had their buy So
I don't think they're buying this week.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, this week would be tough.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, this week would be tough, but we can always ask.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Maybe just got some inside. I mean he's he's much
closer to it. He bleeds cream and Crimson actually a
lot more than I do, as much as I kid
about it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yep, he was over the moon Saturday. I saw him.
I mean, best coach in the country or the moon?
How much google me? You talk about any of those?
You talk about Cuban. I'm worried Bosa's just retired, right, Yes,
I'm worried about him bleeding his four oh one K
into the nil fund like he worked hard.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I don't think that's all beyond the aunt to make.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Sure he's got he doesn't lose his nest egg because
he's trying to get next year's great defensive line.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Here's what he texted me as it became apparent that
Indiana was going to k knock off orgon the first
time in the history of the school that they've beaten
a top five team on the road and I think
only the second time they've ever beaten a top five
team anywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
They were the last Big ten team to beat Oregon
by the way, they were going back to like four.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, you're right, that's true. But anyway, here's the text
he sent to me was if you were here, I
would kiss you. That's how emotional Bozic this thing. Yeah,
and of course I have been kissing a press box
by Patrick Royci. That's right. We actually originally had some
hope of having him in studio today, but he's he's
battling some knee issues. More on that later, so we
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may try to squeeze him in at some point. Bumper
to bumper is the name of the program, and I'll
ask you the question. So if you buy that the
schedule is now serious, and it is, it certainly appears
to be on a number of levels. Even look, I
mean the Eagles, I get it they look a little
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bit out of whack yep, but the wee Eagles looked
out of whack a bunch last year. They do that,
they tend to do that, and they handle it well.
I think they're one of those teams that handles disarray well.
Our brand is crisis that's the Eagles way. That's it.
But here's the kicker. They've been terrible on the ground.
You got to believe they're thinking, well, this is the
week our best running back runs for two.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Hundred yards, right right? They watched the Bijon Robinson exactly
exactly from a few weeks ago, and so how do
we do that?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Does any do you think any of this will enter
into the head coach Koc's decision making as it pertains
to the quarterback call, like who they're playing? Yeah, like
like that, Okay, well now we got we are margin
ferrere is reduced? Yeah, so does that make it more likely?
Says I can't experiment yet.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes, I think it does. And Carson Wentz it's going
to be when twine Bay goes, is what you're saying. Yeah,
I think it does. I definitely think it does. Because
the other part, too, is if you did have if
you did have a great week on the grass last week,
which is one of my favorite KOC phrases, just say
practice yes, like I know every I know my coach
does it too. You have all these flowery phrases, you
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got to use them.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
But if he did have such a great week in practice,
Like how difficult? Wouldn't it have been easy to just go?
And we're excited to have JJ back. He's going to
be the starter. I know, maybe I'm asking for too much.
Maybe that doesn't happen coming off of buy. I'm sure
they'll be at some point. He's got to tell somebody.
I don't know if be Wednesday, whenever they reconvene, But
because it just seems like the longer you don't hear
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that it's JJ, the more like Carson, right, So I
think it does enter into his I think it has
entered into his thinking that we can't really screw around.
We can't waste any time, we can't worry about if
his lower body mechanics are going to be out of
whack because he's only practiced once since he had a kid.
We got to try to win this game somehow, and
Wentz is maybe our best chance to do it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So we're going to go with that. What is the
what's happened to our guy? Seferd He's gonna be on
tomorrow by phone? Yes, I mean did you see his tweet?
It's video JJ McCarthy out here chest bumping dudes. Oh
that people like that. That's what we're that's what we're
down to here, looking for clicks. Must be fit, must
be ready to go. I'll be honest with you. The
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video I've seen, he doesn't even look like he's walking
straight yet. Really, no, I don't think so. And again
that doesn't make him a bad person. But in this case,
I think the debate is going to be rendered moot.
I really do. I think that even if the head
coach is ready and it's going to force feed this thing,
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I think his decision is going to be made largely
because there's not gonna be McCarthy. He even brought it
up in one of the audio bits I saw. He's
practiced basically once, yeah, in the last three weeks. Right,
So I think that to that extent it takes the
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pressure off him, and that the decision is not really
a decision other than one made on medical grounds that
indicates it's not time. Even if I want him to
be ready, I can't force him to be ready. And
I'm the whisperer. I've said, what, organizations fail quarterbacks more
often than young quarterbacks fail organizations. Yep. So I'm not
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gonna then turn around and be a hypocrite and try
to rush a guy act when he is physically not
ready to play.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The other thing I do think would factor into it.
I think I talked about this on enough set. On Friday,
they play the Chargers a week from Thursday. It's a
short week on the other side, so I'm wondering too. Yes, yeah,
I'm sure they don't want to. I'm guessing whoever they
play Sunday, they're gonna want to play on Thursday. Again,
I'd have to go back and think about precedent for well,
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in other situation.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It's the only exception. I would say. Let's say the
Vikings get killed and Wentz throws two picks. It is terrible,
and then you say, kid, well you gotta play, you
gotta get ready, you got to do it. But again,
he's got to be physically ready to go. Yep, And
I'm just not sure that he's going to be. I'm
reminded that it's homecoming week at EYU. You could tie
in the whole alumni thing to get signetti on the air.
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I don't have a good vibe with him. I got nothing,
I got no Indiana connections at this point. Unfortunately, they're
all gone and he's a national darling. Now that's the problem. Yeah,
And to be honest, he's a hard interview. Oh yeah,
because he's a gruff dude. He can be kind of entertaining,
but you gotta know where to go. And it depends
on his mood a little bit, and sometimes you're like, Okay,
I don't want to play anymore. Signetti just gonna make
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a couple of good comments.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm not sure on game week he's ready to have
a Berrero conversation, you know. No, when he's surging towards
the college football playoff, guy, I don't think he's ready
for a Barrero conversation.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Michigan coach is also going to get fired. They'll be
coming after Signetti too. Also if Allabama loses another game
or two or LSU in addition to Penn State Lincoln
Riley after they lose a Notre Dame game. On By
the way, Lincoln Riley had a nice victory over Michigan.
That's true. The carousel. I thought this called the Michigan
quarterback was the.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Best in history. He's good, but he's also six. Like
that's the thing we have to remember. And yeah, I
was not surprised they lost to us.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
See.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I watched him play against Wisconsin two weeks ago, did
not come away like overly impressed. But this Penn State,
whenever there's a big dog in the coaching carousel, a
lot of stuff ends up happening. There's just a domino
effect unlike any other coaching search. So it's gonna be wild.
And by the way, I think it's idiotic that they
fired James Franklin. We don't have time to get into
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it now, but I just was it really fifty mili?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah? Forty nine? So where does that come from? Where
do they make that up? I really do want to know.
I'll ask Mace about that when he joins Wednesdays. The
theory is you get a couple of boosters that just
like Cuban types and they go, we'll split it all
right twenty five. Yeah, that's the theory because there's no
other way it can be justified, if it can be
justified at all, and you don't think it can be. Theoretically, yes,
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it's there's no way to justify, but it might just be.
I mean, well, the precedent of what's happened there it
is an unbelieva I mean, the bottom has fallen out.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Fifteen days ago he was getting ready for the whiteout
game in a Top ten matchup against Oregon, which was
a good game. They lost in double overtime. Yes, and
then they.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Since then got killed by UCLA there right, and now
UCLA turn around and destroyed Michigan State. They did on
the road on the road with what's his name's kid,
Jerry new Heeiseel new Heisel yep, and the Northwestern I
know that's a tough one. This is not a terrible team,
but you can't obviously, you can't lose that game. So anyway,
let's break, We'll come back Johnny Athletic. There's a lot
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to get caught up on with Johnny. We'll get into
the Vikings and Eagles week for sure, a couple of
other very controversial issues. If you have questions for him. Bratschew,
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you looking these days for a light beach read even
though we're kind of post beach season. It's almost fall,
or it is fall.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I have a recommendation for Oh, please send it along,
because I'll be, as you know, beyond some.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Flights, a lot of coming up here.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Chris crossed in the globe, following the wolves around, So
why not?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That'd be great.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I mean, this is the kind of book where you say,
I just want to lose myself in it. I don't
want it to get too heavy. I don't need anything
too serious right now. I want to laugh, maybe cry
a little bit, maybe get scared, but not in a
fundamentally scary way. This is the this is the book
the Exorcist. I'm rereading The Exorcists. I'm fifty five years
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after I think it came out. I think it came
out the book in seventy one actually, and I haven't
read it, I'd say, in at least forty years. And
let me tell you it's it's it's not light, it's
not beachy what. I don't know what, you know what
it was? I think Halloween's coming. I like the scare
tactic stuff. I liked the movie. I liked the book.
(24:59):
When it ca I read re read the books. Yeah,
it holds up and it's creepy. Not gonna lie, it's
still creepy this long after.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I was gonna ask why you inflicted on yourself. I
guess tis the season. But let me ask you, this
is the book as scary as the movie in terms,
you know, lots of times the book is more way
better than the movie. But it's such a visual, yes,
kind of entity. I just wonder like it is the
book as as creeped out as the movie.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well, for a lot of people, the movie version ended
their affection for pea soup because the vomit scenes involving
I think Linda Blair was the actress. Everything seemed to
come out like split pea soup. It was gross. A
lot of people at that point swore off that particular soup,
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which I love. I'm a big split pea soup guy.
I will tell you this. I thought the movie was
very well done. It was, you know, visually jarring for
its time, certainly, But I think the Bookook is really
really good. I think William Peter Blattie, I think, is
the guy who wrote it. I don't even know if
he's still alive, but I think, because as always with books,
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you can flesh out some things that you can't quite
fit into a two hour film. And it's so Yeah,
if you just want to, like I said, just let
loose a little bit, you know, and just just kind
of relax, kick back, Like if you're like on a
lounge share in a beach in Manhattan Beach, when you're
following the wolves to La that's the that's the book
(26:30):
you want. As you look out in the ocean and
see the swaying palm trees, that's the book you want
to go to The Exorcist.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yes, looking for.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Some tranquilities, looking to kind of center myself a little bit. Yeah,
I mean it's a it's a great recommendation. I'll definitely
have to head down to the library.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And if you don't, I know guards you will. Yeah,
I love it. You love horror films, you love horror books. Well,
I was going to say that Kilbourn probably knows the
producer of The exorcistem probably have dinner at d'antana's with
them after you read the book.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
He already has very true.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Awesome, I'm definitely gonna be looking Lord Kilby up. We'll
be over there out there in you know, less than
two weeks.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
No, I can't wait for that or maybe two ten days.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Let me ask you before we get to a lot
of football, let me ask you a a toss up
pro basketball question that is really deep, I think, and
is larger than just any one team. And it goes
back to the Kawhi Leonard story, not the story regarding
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the tree hugging company that he was allegedly a part of,
not doing any any real promotion. That's still got him
fifty million dollars or whatever it's supposed to be. But
I go back to, you know, his injury history again.
Last year he ended up I believe when when we're
(27:59):
talking about international, didn't he end up basically getting dismissed
or basically I thought the people who ran the international
body for pro basketball or the US team basically said
he's not healthy enough this he shouldn't, we can't, We're
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not going to make a part of this team. And
the story I was told was Clippers guy. I can't
remember who the general manager would have been. Yes that
Lawrence Frank went off basically on how dare you know?
How dare you go?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
You know?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
How to question him? Et cetera, et cetera, and It
was used in a story I can't remember who wrote
the story, basically saying, here's an example of one of
the problems this league has right now in that Frank
may have felt differently, but felt obligated to protect the player,
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to be on the player's side, because the dirty little
secret that gets reinforced year after year is that it's
getting harder and harder. Well, i'll tell you I heard
talking about sam Mitchell. Sam Mitchell said the Clippers should
have said you're not playing, you're not capable of playing,
but that there's so much fear in twenty twenty five
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that the truth of the matter is a lot of
general managers aren't really even general managers anymore. Do you
agree with that premise?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah, I do, Dan, and I will say, though, to
be fair like, it is selective in terms of which one.
So there are certain players that do not require that
sort of kid glove, you know, CoDeeN however you want
to term it. Anthony Edwards is one of those. Steph
Curry Jokic. You know, there's plenty of examples of megawatt
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stars who are not the high maintenance type that way.
But it is well known around the league that there
are many that are, including Kawhi Leonard and including Lebron James,
including you know many you know, big name players out
there that have turned being a lead executive and and
a head coach oftentimes as well in this league into
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much more of a diplomatic post than you know, a
pron office leader than a head coach, those types of things.
Do the money that these guys are making, you are
more beholden to them than ever to try and keep
them happy, to try and keep them feeling supported. And
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I think in general, a lot of the guys who
require that extra The Joel Embiid is another one. The
crew will require that extra kind of effort and care
typically falls short when you really need them. But but yeah,
if you were to take a straw pole or you know,
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an anonymous pole of executives around the league, they would
tell you that there's many of them out there that
loose sleep at night and swallow their pride on a
daily basis.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
In catering to some.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Of these guys because of just the way that things
are run, it's it is difficult for some gms.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Jannis is a player who around the league, I think
generally speaking, has a very good is developed a very
good reputation, right. He works. He's talented, but he works
no nonsense in that regard. The question on the table
really along these same lines is whether this is a
bad look where he's got I think two years left
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on his contract after this year or maybe including this year.
You may know better than me on his contract scooting
this year, so that's still a lot of time. He's
not close to free agency. And he holds a presser
when he finally addresses the issues of rumors about the
Knicks talking to them and some other to whoever else,
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and he says, no, no, I'm all in this now.
You know, in six months, you know, I'm allowed to
change my mind, and I'm going I think that's also
the kind of stuff that, even if it's a great player,
people go, what are you doing? If don't bother saying
you're all in? Then if you're going to say, but
I could change my mind of six months, because that
(32:15):
will still be this season potentially, I saw. I think
it is another tentacle of what we're talking about here.
I get it. If you're one of five and you're
a superstar, you control a lot in a basketball game
compared to some other sports. I still don't think that's
a very good look for him either.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah, it is tough, Dan, because I mean, I am
with you in terms of I'm an enormous Yannis fan.
I love the way that he goes about his business
and what he's meant to Milwaukee, and the way that
generally speaking, over these ten twelve years, he has spurned
sort of the NBA media machine of suggestions you have
to get out of there, you have to get out
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of there. No, he's stuck there, won a championship, did
all those things. It's clear right now at this stage
of his career he is trying to apply pressure publicly
and privately to the Bucks to continue to invest, to
try and make player moves so that they can try
and get back to championship level, which they are not
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right now, and I think he's doing it clumsily. I
agree with you because I think there are so many
times we have seen Giannis in press conference situations speak
so eloquently, so thoughtfully about whatever the issue is of
the day, and he's remarkable with it.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
But this one is tougher.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Now he can say, look, I've been here, I've put
in twelve years with this team. I've stayed through thick
and thin, We've won a title. I deserve to have
some freedom, and he does. But you are already seeing
what the Bucks are doing. Number one, they got rid
of Damian Lillard and ate a bunch of his money
so they could go get Miles Turner. But then they've
(33:58):
signed both of Jannis's brother Like, if Jannis has a sister,
they'd probably sign her to play. Like, I mean, that's
that's just like the catering that they are trying to do,
the bending over backward, and that's the kind of stuff
where you're looking at it like, all right, man, is
this is this really how.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
A professional organization should run? No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
But Giannis is the sun, moon and the stars in Milwaukee,
and if you leave, if he leaves, you got to
start over, and you're really bottoming out. And so there's
desperation there. And yeah, I wish Giannis was smoother with
how he handled it, or maybe just a little more
discreet with it. But but yeah, that that that's the
name of the game. And everyone in the league is
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watching and waiting and they're going to be saying, hey, honest,
you said six months what about four months, how about
two months?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah? Are you?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Now? It's going to be a thing all season long.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
He's making fifty four million, one hundred and twenty six,
four hundred and fifty dollars this year. He will make
fifty eight million, four hundred and fifty six thousand, five
hundred and sixty six dollars next year, and then he's
got a player option twenty seven twenty eight at sixty two,
seven hundred eighty six, six hundred and eight two bucks.
It's an old cliche about you do want players now
want it both ways. I'm gonna go ahead and lock
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in on the money when you give it to me,
but I'm still going to reserve the right to flirt
with other teams after the fact because you know, again,
you had players leave like Lebron for example, Durant, right,
and we can argue about whether he should have gone
to Golden State, but he was approaching free agency.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Correct, So yeah, the free agents.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, he was a free agent. So to me, that
that's the distinction here, that's that's that's fair to draw.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. And and here's the
the changing landscape of the league now with the second
aprons that we've talked about in the In the much
greater restrictions on transacting in the league that Tim Connolly
has told you about on your show and told us
as well, it's it is making it much harder now.
(35:59):
There was a time, I'm Dan where a player X
could sign a five year deal and just say, all right,
that's fine, I'll just get traded if I'm unhappy in
a year, and that sometimes happened, where they request to
trade a year later or something like that. You're thinking, wow,
how is this going? But it usually happened. Nowadays it's
much harder to trade players, especially once making fifty five
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sixty seventy million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
And so I do think that.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Part of it too is now the frustration on the
players a little bit that they've lost a little bit
more of control of being able to have their cake
and eat it too. They they're going to have to
be a little more cutthroat, and they'll take a little
bit more of a risk, I think with shorter deals
or going all the way to the end of their
contract before they can really exert a lot of leverage.
(36:47):
Unless you want to be Jimmy Butler and just blow
everything up within an organization.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Fair enough, let's talk some football. I've got a lot
of good text of coming in several of them for you,
specifically regarding Eagles week and the Vikings quarterback call for
this week. That's going to be the a topic for sure,
Marshall writes for Minnetonka, A question for you, why are
so many people saying we have to figure out if
JJ is the guy this season? He's twenty two, Jordan
(37:15):
lovestaff for three years. This is a winning business and
this team was built to win. Now, Wentz clearly gives
them the best chance to do that. Let me give
you one other one and then you can go in
any direction you'd like. This is from seven to one. Oh,
it's from flim Flamm.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Wentz versus Eagles is a better quarterback barometer than McCarthy
versus Eagles.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's only worth starting McCarthy if you think he is
capable of having a franchise quarterback type performance against Philly.
He'll be active as the backup before he starts too bad.
JJ starts too bad. JJ starts just can't solidify the gig.
Not that my leash slash toe slash rope on Wentz.
Wentz Winnebago is fastened that tight, so fire away.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah, I would say, like I understand the point of like, look,
JJ is still young enough that you have time to
start to figure this thing out and you don't have
to make a decision this season. But I do think
one of the things that one of the reasons the
Vikings went with JJ McCarthy versus Sam Darnold and paying
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him thirty million or whatever, is that if you have
a starting quarterback who is making on that rookie deal,
that is how you leverage those years with building around him,
spending money talent wise so that you can ideally win
right now. And it doesn't mean that you have to
make that decision within one year or two years, but
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it certainly does help if by going into year three
you really have a good idea on can this guy
do it or not. I think it would be difficult
for the Vikings if they got through this entire year
and you know, barring a Wentz just explosion, you know,
Keenum like, and they're going to the NFC title game
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with him, if it's a nine win season or an
eight win season at the end and McCarthy hasn't played
much at all. That's where I think you lose some
advantage in terms of evaluation, in terms of roster building,
in terms of decision making, and so I do think
that there is you'd like to see in the absence
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of a huge step up in Wentz's game, which he's
been good, but I don't think he's been great yet.
I just think that you want to eventually get back
to JJ if it's if this season.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Is going to be a middling season.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
If not, then you ride Wentz as long as you can, or,
as I've said before, maybe Wentz gets hurt again or
maybe he struggles, and then you just go back to
McCarthy organically and let it play out that way. But
I agree with the color in some respect that I
don't think you have to rush it right now, but
I do think that you want to have a little
(40:00):
bit better idea by the end of the season where
you're going in the next three to four years.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Again, I think in this case it may become academic
because if koc is going to be as cautious rightly
as he says he's going to be about the physical
readiness of the player, then that will make his decision
for him, and I think it already looks a little
bit that way for this week. Again, where it gets
funky is if Wentz is good to very good and
(40:29):
the Vikings knock off the Eagles, you probably have to
play him against the Chargers that next Thursday night, I think.
And then it extends the problem, your problem that you're
talking about, which is, well, God, we got to get
to him. What are we going to get to McCarthy.
On the other hand, I'd say, if you're if you
keep winning, you'll accept that trade off, even if it's
not what was in the blueprint. And the other way
(40:50):
is Wentz comes back to the pack, which he's very
likely probably will will at some point, and at that
point he's healthier. McCarthy's healthier, healthier, he's watched a little
bit more, and he's ready to quote unquote come to
the rescue.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Totally.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
And that's where I think right now, coming out of
this buy, the Vikings are actually in a little bit
of an ideal situation in that you have two games
in five days coming out of the buy, and that
in and of.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Itself gives you cover.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Cannot have to rush McCarthy back out there. You can
reasonably and very responsibly say that, hey, we just don't
want to he's missed some time. We don't want to
put him in that situation where he's playing two games
in five days and we're gonna let this thing play
out to make sure that we are taking care of
him and giving him the best chance. And so you
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do not have to rush any of this. It can
just unfold, you know, naturally, in terms of whether you
continue riding. Once if he beats the Eagles and beats
the Chargers, you've probably got to keep going with him
because this team is built to win now. But if
somewhere along the line he either is injured or he
(42:02):
slips and has a rough one, then you can go
back to McCarthy when he presumably is a little healthier,
when hopefully your offensive line is a little healthier, and
you again get back to where you were at the
start of the season, where you hope that you give
this young man the best chance to succeed while he's
out there, and the best chance to get a true
evaluation is when he's healthy, when as many people around
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him are as healthy as possible.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Is Johnny Athletic on today merely to mock Wild Nation
after Game two while he can before the Wolves take
the court. That's from Allen in Afton.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
I would love to do it, but I certainly can't
do it this early in the season, in an eighty
two game season, man, Like you know, yes, I think
they were planning the parade road after the win over
Saint Louis and then got brought back down to earth.
But you know, even the most disingenuous of me can't
just like dance on a grave after one bad game
(43:01):
at home, even if it.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Was a bit of a buzzkill.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
So I will as my gift to the Wild fans
that will take it easy on them this week.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Do you have a would you like to place into
circulation your nominee to become the next manager of the
Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
So I am so with you, Dan in terms of
I think you're on with this. It's like the next
year is going to be a dumpster fire or gonna
be boring, I would say, and gonna be apathetic. And
there's not going to be a whole lot to interest anyone,
I don't think. And and they're the the ballpark's going
to be empty, so let's jazz it up. Let's put
(43:43):
aj Prizinskiler, Let's put ozy Gie in in there. Let's
get someone who is going to be throwing bases and tantrums,
someone who is going to be throwing players under the bus,
someone who's gonna be making controversial statements to get some attention.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Because this thing is going the wrong way.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
And I would hate to see I really like Justin Morno,
I would really like Tory Hunter.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I'd hate to see them.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
Yeah, put in that position and just have to suffer
through something like that. So give me, give me a
live wire, give me someone that you just never know
what they're going to say or do when you get
to the ballpark, and see if you can sell some
tickets that way.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, that's about the uh. I think that's pretty much
what we're left with. The only question is whether those
individuals are too smart to go to a program where
they feel like, well, we're bound, I'm bound to fail.
I guess that gets back to if you're desperate enough
to become a manager for the first time or a
manager again, you take whatever's there. But I think that's
(44:39):
the other issue is what smart savvy ball guy as
a manager, He's gonna sit and let's he sits down
and gets the vision of where this thing is going
and saying, wait a minute now, So why should I
allow myself to be thrown to the wolves this year
sacrificed unless you've got something, You've got a plan to
show me that this might actually be going someplace in
(45:01):
two or three years.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yeah, I agree, And when you look at it, I
know that there's only a finite number of these jobs, right,
and so I mean, you can't be too picky about it.
But I think that if.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
You are a young, you know, kind of coach that's
coming up, that's well thought of, that's think about the
next big thing, or you are a kind of more
of a star free agent, veteran guy who's won a
lot of other places and is going to have his choice.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I don't know why you would choose here.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
You're coming to a situation where there is a lot
of animosity among the fan base. You're coming to a
situation where you really don't think that there's going to
be an incredible amount of investment from ownership, and that
any sort of winning will be probably a lot based
on luck and and things like that. And so if
(45:54):
you want to really have a chance to have any
longevity in the profession, and you're not just expert to
take any job. I would think that this would be
one of the least desirable situation that's out there right
now in terms of opening.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Let me know, once you hit the road and you
crack open the Exorciste and finish that thing, let me
know what you.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Think I will.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
I usually like to sleep on planes, and I might
have some nightmares if I know you read a couple
of chapters in that and then dozed off.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
But you know, hey, you know, get busy living.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Or get hunt yourself. Yeah every while, so can it
chapt yourself upset the apple cart a little bit? You know,
so I did too much? Otherwise, too much apathy sets in.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Maybe i'll yeah, And would you recommend I might like.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I've been looking for.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
Another book that I can read with the kids, like
before bedtime.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Maybe that's that would be good too for them.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Right, we just curl up, you know, in my daughter's
bedroom and read a few chapters and then let her
doze off to sleep peacefully.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
That'd be nice, I.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Think, yeah, they they might doze off. I don't think
it'll be very peaceful at that point, it can at
least be selective about what dialogue you read drum in
which dialogue you decide might be left for a later time.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
I'll keep that in mind and I'll run it by
the wife as well.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
There you go, thanks man. That's Johnny Athletic, brought to
you by RBC Wealth Management Michael Hurley. In about a
half hour, about four point thirty this afternoon, we'll get
his reaction to the big peace agreement? Does it have legs?
Can it last? What are going to be from his
what will be from his standpoint? Some of the key
(47:32):
thresholds to think that this thing might be real? All
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