October 7, 2025 • 45 mins
Dan Barreiro opens the show wondering if anyone with the Wild has signers remorse after Connor McDavid signed a very team friendly contract extension with the Oilers. Vikings wide receiver Adam Theilen makes his weekly appearance to recap the international trip and how important the comeback win over the Browns was for the rest of the season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is your signer's remorse leader fan Fan Radio Network,
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dot com. Two minutes and nine seconds past the hour
three o'clock Central daylight time, we welcome you back. It
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is a Tuesday edition of the Bumper to Bumper program
on a very crisp fall like weekday afternoon here in
the twin cities that we affectionately refer to as Many
Minneapolis and Saint Lewis Park. My name is Dan Burrero.
I host the program, guards he produces the show. He
is indeed back from his one day hiatus, and we
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are delighted that you're long for today's full three and
one half hour tour. We're going all the way until
six thirty this very evening. Lou Nannie in studio, probably
in the five o'clock hour. I'm guessing Ron Coomer our
first visit with kom Dog in Ages. He's going to
join by telephone at four point thirty, and Adam Field
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is expected at the bottom of this hour if he's
gotten all the proper rest since returning from the one
and one Vikings road trip across the Pond. Timing might
not be great for Komdog twins, I should say, Cubs down,
yeah to zero to Cato Kalin's Milwaukee Brewers. People feeling
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pretty good about the Cubs three run home run in
the top of the first by Suzuki. Then what Brewers
get their own three run dong three to three at
the end of one. And then Milwaukee they can't stop
scoring runs the first game, I think they had nineteen
or twenty. Second game they had seven. They end up
winning seven to three. So see what Kumdag feels regarding
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the current delicate condition of the Chicago.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Cubs Talk baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Just get caught up with him for the first time
in in quite some time.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You know what kum Dog has always told me? What's
that It's not a series until someone wins on the road.
I thought that was Flip. It might be kum Dog
I think said it too.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, Well, they haven't won yet on the road, No,
and they better get to winning at They better win
the next two at home, otherwise, well there won't be
an opportunity to win one on the road.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I don't think. Isn't this best of five?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think this is the best of five, and they're
down two games to none. By the way, I didn't
get into this yesterday. Were you you probably you know,
I'm gonna it's probably a stupid question to ask you,
but I'll ask anyway. Were you as? Were your sensibilities offended?
As much as apparently? Several locals were upset outraged at
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an NFL Network statement from the host in the studio
referring to the Minnesota Vikings as the Minneapolis Vikings.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
The Minneapolis Vikings again, Yeah, was it a slip up?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yes? But are we is it really? Why does that
work us up so much? First of all, it might
be the Minnesota Vikings, but they play in Minneapolis. I
don't know how to break it to Saint Paul types,
but that's the truth. What about outstate, Well, you're on
your own too. I mean, I just, I just I'm
not sure it was worth the level of outrage because
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it was.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I knew it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I heard it live and I said, I knew. I said,
she's toast. This host is dead beyond any meaning rational comprehension.
She's going to get obliterated over what I'm sure was
just a still slip of the tongue. Not that big
a deal. Doesn't mean do your homework you know, do
better NFL network. I don't think it was any of
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those things. In fact, has she commented on it or
kidd about it? Know if she's commented on it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
But later this is what actually bothered me more, because no,
you're on live TV.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You're gonna make a mistake. Would you like it to happen? No,
obviously not.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
But I think she tried to double down later said
the Minnesota Vikings, who also happened to play in Minneapolis. Like,
I realize I screwed it up, but I couldn't tell
if she was trying to be fun about it or
like snippy about it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't blame her. If it was the latter, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I just like, because it's professional football, you should have
professional broadcasts.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Bleep you If you honestly believe that it's.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Unprofessional to call them the Minneapolis Vikings, you don't even
understand what professional is as far as I'm concerned, I mean,
come on, seriously, that's your your level of we're gonna
evaluate you know she's on our list. I thought it
was absolutely one of the more we're good at overcooking
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here in this in this market, we're outstanding it over cooking,
and to me that one was right at the top
of the list. So I'll be honest, I don't know.
I didn't hear the follow up, but I wouldn't have
blamed her at all. And again, you know they do
play here. Break it to people. I mean, you can
come from out of town, but we do play. Do
we play in downtown Minneapolis?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We do the People Stadium? Just bizarre.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Anyway, where were we well, do we have? The question
on the table is whether we have or Bill garn Yeah,
has signers remorse?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I figured this is where you were going. I hopefulness
is listening.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, I gotta tell you this will be I'm sure
a major topic of conversation with Luigi in the five
o'clock hour. But by now I think even casual hockey
fans have heard the news about your guy. You call
him the best player in hockey. I think Connor McDade,
Cony McDavid's pretty good. Also number ninety seven. I think
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do you remember all summer that that's true? The summer
deal was, Well, maybe agents are kind of everybody's kind
of waiting it out because they don't want to be
the first to sign. And that's what's holding up the
signing because you don't want to be the first domino
to fall when you find out that if you if
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you'd waited, the other domino, yeah, was going to get
even more money than you were going to demand. You
don't want to say that market exactly in the wrong direction.
You want the market set for you. Well, whatever market
caprice off set at seventeen million dollars a year. Connor
McDavid raised his hand and said, you know what I
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want to do. I want to help the team, team friendly.
I want to do everything you want to You want
to extend me two years twelve mil right now when
as far as far as I've been told, he could
have gotten the max right now right, I don't think
if if there's another player in the league getting seventeen
million year, I don't see how twelve million the year
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can be the max for Connor McDavid. He maybe he's
in a different contract situation, but I was told he
could make the max.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Who is the uh?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Who's the hockey insider who tweeted ninety seven could have
signed for the max? Wants to win extends for same
twelve point five million aa V of the expiring deal.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Wow. I mean, I gotta believe Garren choked on his
crumpets a little bit today. I mean it all so
maybe he had inside information and he knew and I
look deep down.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Does he have signers? Remorse? No, he had to sign him.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
But my god, does that number not hit you right
in the solar plexus?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
He did yesterday when I saw it. Yes, I said
he signed for what what happened?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah? Good for him, I get it, I get it.
He can wait.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And get you know, the CAP's gonna keep going up
and eventually he'll get an even bigger payday.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's not the point. All summer.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
What the hockey people said is watch McDavid. That's that's
the other guy you have to watch year And the
assumption was he wasn't going to be interested in waiting,
So good for him, good for his team and.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
R ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You're on the clock, man, I mean, you got what
you can get. That's what your agent's job is. But
that's a startling disparity in yearly yearly salary, right for
a guy.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Who a lot of people think is the best.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Player in the game correct or on the verge of
becoming the best player in Conrad, but he's just insane. Yeah,
and they've been to the finals back to back years now,
Devil's advocate. Yeah, he's a little younger than Caprisoff. True,
because that was the other thing. It was, do you
want to sign a guy to a really long contract
when it's going to be thirty five, thirty six, thirty
seven at the end. I think the Wild had to
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do it. Edmonton probably didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yes, But are the Oilers even more on the clock
because when he's done with this, it's what he's thirty
one thirty two, and then maybe he doesn't want to
play there anymore. Maybe they have to sign them to
an even more ridiculous deal. That's possible, But in the
intro and the short term, it's a great the short term,
it's a great deal for the team, and presumably it
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does give them a little more flat. Look, we accepted
that our flexibility is going to be limited, but you
had to do it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But I'm curious to know what other players and agents
think about this, right. That's what interests me too, because
there's a part of this that I respect that McDavid
is saying, I don't care what I'm supposed to sign
for I don't care that I'm supposed to know. You
can't get in the way of all the players, all
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of the best players in the movement that you're supposed
to be a part of. And he just said, I'm
going to do it my way now again, he's going
to eventually get a payoff. But we're not talking about
down the road. We're talking about now. And there was
nobody in hockey, nobody who was predicting that this was
the way McDavid was going to go. So all this
stuff now ault strategy. Why didn't we hear about this
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strategy all summer?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
We heard, Well, who's gonna blink first in terms of,
you know, again setting the market. So it's a it's
an interesting little development and nugget that it's hard to avoid.
It's kind of hard to miss given the obscene nature
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of the contract awarded Corill Capriso. Even though, as you said,
we get it, they're different ages, they are at different
periods in their career. But this was not the way
we were hearing was going to go. I'll be very
curious to get Luigi's view on all of that as well,
because I know when Louis when we've talked to Louis
about McDavid.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I don't think he expected this either. Doesn't sound familiar.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Oh for sure, Fan, you want to give away money, Fan,
and two men and a junk truck want to help
with that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It is bonus bucks.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
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Speaker 1 (10:57):
We got a lot of good texts coming in from
the hockey community. That's one of the more sensitive in
all of town, as we've known for quite some time.
Statement six month, two guy rights. Get back to me
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when you find out the Imam McDavid is being paid
to be the spokesman for Cosafina and his no show
gig as a day laborer with four seasons total landscaping.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Very very well played there.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
People, I I I understand this is a sensitive issue
for for wild fans. You're you're turning your ear, You're
you're twisting yourselves into pretzels trying to make yourselves feel
better about it it. Let's just say, for the sake
of discussion that it's going to cost, if he's going
to stay at all, an exponentially greater amount of money
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to keep him above and beyond the caprice off deal
in two years than is the case right now if
he has signed right now.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So what do you think the team is that team?
How many finals has he been to? Is it two?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Three? You think that's scared now? There may be a
feeling that he's just ready. He's frustrated and he's ready
to move on, and this is his way to challenge
the team to I'm opening the door financially, go out
and do what you need to do now.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I don't know if there's enough time yet to.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Do anything about that unless you do something via trade
at this.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Point, but.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He's he's a far more accomplished player in terms of
what his team has done. And by the way, the
age difference is only like four months between the two.
Is a turn out. It's not that dramatic. So you know, again,
I h We'll get Louis's view on it. Somebody said
Russo had predicted that it might go this route. It's
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a startling contrast. And if you're defensive about that, I
can't help you. I'm sorry it but it's you'd be
kind of foolish to suggest that no matter what this
is going to mean, down the road for how much
his home team is going to have to spend or
if even it's likely that they're going to be able
to keep him at all in the short term. It
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gives that team greater flexibility obviously than the middicot.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's say, what's the difference a year? What do we say?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's five million different year twelve defense four and a
half to five million dollars a year. So I don't
know how you can look at it any other way
he might have I'm not even suggesting that he might
not have his strategic McDavid his strategic reasons for doing it,
then the end will serve him better. I'm just saying
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that's a far more advantageous position then I'll take. I
will take that risk for a player who has already
gotten me to the Cup finals going shorter, knowing I
might get blown away on the back end. If I
can keep him at all, then we got We got
Caprice Off for twenty five more years, because we've got
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really nothing from an equity standpoint to show for it
right now, and we've already heard this a couple of times.
Just wait two years, the Caprice Off deal will be
considered a bargain. So what great, We're happy for you.
I've on record, I think you're on record is saying
they had to sign him. I'm not admonishing them for
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signing him in any way, shape or form. But hockey people,
insiders around the National Hockey League believe this is a
fascinating contrast and a big story period. No matter what
predictions were made about how far you would go. You know, again,
I would still say, is I understand it? He could
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have signed for the Max on a two year extension
as well, Right, yeah, he could have done that.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
What you know, why wouldn't he do that?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You can say, well, because he wants to open the
door to his team adding pieces.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
That's the point.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So even if you've stuck at two years, he still
could have gone for at a much higher number.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Oh yeah, so yeah, And it's basically I'm just talking
on this contract. The other reason why he might be
willing to do this is he's coming off an eight year,
one hundred million dollar contract, you know, so he's he's
gotten paid big time already.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Right, I get that, But that doesn't that doesn't stop.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Most players from taking the next step and saying, well,
I can get another one hundred million, whatever the highest
amount is. I'll still take it. How many times have
we been there? Well, he's got how much money do
you need? That's not how most of these players are
generally work.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It's the anti Kirk correct.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Basically Dan Rostro's hockey take as usual, capriceof deals a
slam dunk. Only you will find the negative. I'll say
it for the third time. I don't know what else
to tell you, man, I understand. Like I said, it's
the most sensitive sports community in this town, the hockey community. Well,
actually I think it's second. It may be running neck
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and neck with Links fans as far as I'm concerned
right now, but we've endorsed it. We're also allowed to
comment on this interesting contrast. It's okay, we're not saying
renounce the contract of Capriceov, but I will say what
I've said even when they signed him.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
This is half the job, this is half the battle.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It will mean nothing if you don't do the other half,
which is maximized on what he is supposed to mean individually.
And I would say McDavid's team has done gone come
closer to that than caprice offs to this point. Unless
I miss something unless I missed one or two Cup
final appearances with Caprice Off, I don't know that that
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is indeed the case. What else did I have for you?
Oh well, let me get I'll get to a couple
more texts here. What do you think the Wild done?
The Caprice Off?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Sign him? Sign them?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I don't know what to tell you. I don't know
what you want to hear exactly. All we're pointing out
is the contrast. And I gotta believe even if Garan
knew it was coming, that it had to make him
wins a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's all because there's not much flexibility. According to Russo,
there's not much flexibility left for us.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Contractually right now.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Correct now we could make a deal that could change that,
but right now we don't. I would say this, it
would be nice to have had a player in a
situation like Connor McDavid like they've had for the last decade.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And it took a.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
While to get going, that's true, but it's been tremendous
the last two years. I mean, we've seen the videos
coming out of Edmonton. What a place to do it, correct,
But then to be able to have the situation where
you're coming off back to back Cup final runs and
you just got to keep this guy in he's and
you can. You don't have to go crazy with the
money to do it. It's just a better overall situation.
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I think that's what this is kind of a reminder of.
Now the clock is ticking if you don't win a
Cup and he maybe maybe he comes in two years
and says, as great as it is here in.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Canada, maybe he'll want maybe he'll want to join Caprice.
Off with the while state of hockey.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, we'll probably have our new arena by then, or
at least our new upgrades and everything will all be great.
That's that's the one thing is it's just such a
solid situation there. That's what I think I would be
most envious of.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well, I meanwhile, are we starting another season injury racked
in a way that's going to not allow us to
get We've got a few out of the gate, right, Yeah,
we've got a shook sook. He's on time, on correct.
And now your guy Nico Sturm, how about him? Yeah,
he's art too, he's got a back issue, he's on
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injured reserve.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I always felt almost from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
We'll see what Luigi thinks that maybe we're counting too
much on him anyway, But I I'm already starting to
get worried about where we are injured?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And how's Caprisov's eye? Didn't you have an eye issue too?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And now we signed Gusbus while I was gone or
over the weekend?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
We did? So does that mean we don't like our
kid anymore? What happened to Wally? Well? I thought we
loved him?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, I think we do, but I think we've decided
that we can't. We haven't seen enough good from him
to count on him yet, and we got to hedge
our beat, I guess so. Yeah, So wh here's the best?
This one I didn't expect to see.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
This is from MO out of Wrigleyville, Chicago.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Dan Billy g is a fraud and a snake oil
salesman who finds band aid fixes so he can use
as an excuse down the road as to why his
team's not winning playoff games. That's MO from Chicago formerly
of now uh forgotten uptown Minneapolis.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's where the Vikings play.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Well? Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Would now would we be? Would Saint Paul be bitter.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
If before the Wild's first game, the national announcer says,
and the Saint Paul Wilde start, No, they.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Would embrace it.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, that's where we play, that's where the team plays.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Want it bad?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
One broadcaster once says Minneapolis Vikings, and we've lost our mind.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I actually thought it was kind of cute. I I
kind of liked it, and I said, you know, that's that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Maybe maybe we start calling them the Minneapolis Vikings. I
can you're detaching yourself on that.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, it's yourself technically true kind of Yeah, would we
call them the Arden Hills Vikings if that's where they went?
Are you gonna call the Bears the Arlington Heights Bears.
I'm willing to.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I have no problems you start calling them the Arlington
Heights Bears in five years, Well, it's not the Illinois
Bears anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
It is a city.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
It's not unprecedented for the city to be represented in the.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Name of a team. It's a lot of them, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So at I just don't think it should be that
big of a deal. All Right, we got a break
for Adam Thielen back from across the pond. We'll see
what he has to say about the one on one
trip to Europe, and who knows what else he's new.
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Don't forget about an hour baseball conversation with our good friend,
an old friend, Ron Coomer Cubs kind of on the ropes,
but we'll catch up with him. He, of course, is
on the outstanding Chicago Cubs radio network. He is at
four thirty, and we expect Louis and Studio in the
five o'clock hour. The Vikings have returned from their two week,
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close to two weeks, certainly two game trip across the Pond.
They come back one and one after coming from behind
Lake to knock off the Cleveland Browns. Adam Thielend kind
enough to join us now via the Connectico Water Systems hotline.
How do how do you do in general on jet lag?
You're you're a grizzled veteran. I'm assuming of travel, But
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is it pretty Do you have it down pretty much
to a science? Now?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Is it still kind of challenging?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
No? I think I got it down to a science.
I think it's like one of those things where you
just you just set your mind on it, right, like
you just know that it's gonna be a little foggy.
It's a great excuse for me to drink more coffee,
which I'm not complaining about. And yeah, you just kind
of figure it out. You kind of mind over matter
a little bit, and at some then that's always been
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I guess maybe a strength of mine is just being
able to kind of, you know, adapt to whatever's going
on and figure it out.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So coffee, are you just old fashioned, hardcore coffee guy
or you foo food drink latte guy?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
What's your coffee of choice?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
No, sir, just black coffee. You give me a good
cup of hot black coffee, and and my day is
My day is good.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's all it takes. So is that first thing in
the morning.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I'm I'm kind of more. I'm very scheduled of mine
because I know that if I started right away in
the morning, I'd have way too much fee and way
too much coffee. So I'm very routine. I make sure basically,
my first cup of the day is usually the first meeting. Uh,
so I can handle the long, monotonous meetings that we
have on Wednesdays and Thursdays and uh And it's kind
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of my way to keep my add in check while
in meetings. But yeah, usually usually a couple of cups
in the morning during meetings, and then you know, one
half for noon cup to get me going, either before
practiced or before I get home with the crazy kids.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, no cream, no sugar, nothing, just a black coffee
every how far is that go back?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Well? Do you want to know the origin story of
my of my coffee drinking? Okay, well I can credit
it to Norv Turner because I had to sit in
his game plan meetings where he went through every single
play that we had up that week, which was like
at times one hundred and sixty slides, where he went
through every little detail of every play. And at that
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point I was like, all right, I need I need
something to get me through this. And if he focused
and locked in and turned to coffee.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
That's too good. Did he ever have did you ever
reveal this to him? Did he have any inkling of
that you were his inspiration?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
No? But that's a good point. I should give him
a call and just thank him for opening my eyes
and uh and to the coffee world, which has been great, I.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Which I should say he was your inspiration to say
it better? All right?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You do come back with a victory, you get the
late drive that you needed. I I you know, I
gotta feel that that's one of those games where you
say you have to you sort of have to find
a way to win it.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
How did you view it?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, I think I think that was kind of my thing,
you know, in the locker room before the game, on
the sidelines during the game, is like, guys, we gotta
find a way, Like like I don't care what it
looks like, I don't care how it happens, but like
keep fighting because we got we got to win this game.
Like this game means so much more than anyone probably
knows or you know, we'll be able to look back
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at at the end of the season and how important
that one game was. And they all are right. This
league is just there's no game that does that means
more than the other. But going into a bye week,
just from the momentum standpoint, just from the mental side
of things, it was so important to win that game, uh,
and so obviously thankful for that made the trip extremely
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long trip nine hour flights back a lot better. So
I was. I think I stood up for the first
six hours of that flight before I fall fell asleep,
so I wouldn't fall asleep before that, but it made
it more enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
The last drive, I believe Carson Wentz was nine for nine.
I thought he looked really good on that drive. I
thought it was well called by your head coach Slash,
you know, obviously play caller as well.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
What did you what did you think? What did you
make of it?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah, I mean, I think just how that game went
of kind of how our offense was moving the ball
and things like that. You know, a lot of credit
to coach for his play calling and obviously the whole
coaching staff of kind of getting that information to him
to kind of figure out a way to move the
ball with out taking hits and keeping keeping Carson upright
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and getting getting the ball in the playmaker's hands. And
I think I think it was obviously a great job
by the staff, but also as Carson and just getting
the ball out, finding finding guys, going to the guys
that you can count on in big situations, and then
and then the guys you know, I think, you know
TJ had a great catch and just got vertical and
and really you know, get the first down. That's huge.
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Those those plays are huge that no one's going to
talk about. You know, I don't know how many yards
TJ had in the game, but those plays are huge
that no one's going to talk about. But to be
able to catch the ball, get vertical, get a first down,
just to keep the drive and momentum going and not
have to get to a third down or or second
and whatever. Those are little huge plays and really helped
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us to be able to get down the field and
getting field goal range first, and then you get to
that field goal range and then it's like, all right,
let's go win this and not put this in the
two overtime's hands and go win it. So that was great.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I actually don't think Cleveland
would have ever scored again anyway. But you're right, you
have a chance to win it, you go ahead and
do it. You know, justin Jefferson very well, But you
were away from him for a little while, you know, elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'm wondering what you came back to.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
What you saw that's different, if anything about JJ as
he is obviously grown in stature and experience in the.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
League, I think just an even better teammate and obviously
everyone knows the type of player he is but just
the maturity that he's really he was mature when he
came into the league just for you know, being so
young and not a lot of experience, and he really
was ahead of his time as far as maturity wise.
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But he's grown so much as a person. He's grown
so much as a leader. I wouldn't say that when
I was here last that he was like the strongest
leader in the world, but he didn't have to be.
And I think he's really taken ownership to be that
strong leader, to be a role model for the younger
guys and to help them grow on the field, but
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also off the field. I heard some great comments from
him after the game talking about his role there with
with certain guys and and trying to be that for
them through his experiences. But yeah, I think I think
the biggest thing that sticks out to me is just
his being a teammate, right, Like, he's not a guy
that is gonna just you know, whine and be a
(29:16):
diva just because you know, he's going to be out
there to help this team win games and do it
as a leader.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You know. He brought up in fact after the game
and speaking of the leadership part of this that he
wants to take Jordan Addison under his wing a little more.
The head coach was very public about saying that the
reason Jordan didn't play in the first quarter was because
he'd missed a walkthrough and and it sounds like JJ's
saying I got to try to have a greater influence
(29:44):
on him. You've been around a long time too, So
is that something you try to get involved in. Do
you do it if the player wants it, you know,
your second time around with this team. I'm curious to
get your view because obviously the kid can play.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I mean, he made a great catch late.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
He can be an important part of what this team does,
but he's had some issues. So is that something you
might get involved in as well, or do you back
away from that?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Well, I believe in building relationships. You know, That's something
I've really, really, really really enjoy and I think it's
it's part of you know, why I'm still playing this game.
It's to build those relationships, to have a friendship and
then be there where I need to be. And I
think when you build a friendship and you build a
relationship person and guys can trust you, then that's when
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you can pour into them and you can help them
all in the field, off the field, what have you.
So that's kind of where I'm focused on, is making
sure that he really trusts me and that I can
be there for him when he needs me. And yeah,
I think I think that's a huge part of playing
in this league a long time. You know, God, God
has blessed me and given me this opportunity, and I
think it's more than just making plays. As much as
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I love doing that and getting the ball in my hand,
but you know, I know there's bigger things than that.
So I say that all a long winded answer to
say that, yes, I'm very committed to building these relationships
with not just him but the entire team and trying
to be a resource where I can.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Well, it may have been a long winded answer, but
I thought it was an important answer because I can't
help but wonder and a lot of people have wondered
about this. You know, your snaps have gone down. I
think in the Browns game you had fourteen snaps against
them ten in the first quarter when Addison was sideline
and you were on the field. I think over seventy
(31:36):
percent on snaps the first three weeks. You're a guy
who still I know, feels he can contribute. You can
still catch the ball. I also know you do pride
yourself on doing other things, and I'm wondering if you
have you know, part of that philosophy is what helps
you through as a player who I'm assuming wants to
play more. How are you dealing with the way the
role has seemingly gone down since Addison came back? Adam,
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did we lose him?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It's gone all right, let's put let's put back on hole.
See you can get them back. Oh? Oh, I think
I heard him?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Did you, Adam? Did you hear we we lost you
for a minute there? Did Did you hear the question?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Long winded?
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I heard the I heard the first part of it,
but my my phone must have cut out. But but yeah,
I think I think I got to. But yeah, I
think for me, you know, I said it in the
press conference when I first got here, It's like, I'm
not going to forget this, this feeling that I had
when I first got back in that building, and how
important that place is to me, how important the organization,
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you know, what it means to me, And I'm not
going to forget that through the ups and downs of
a season, whether we're winning or losing, whether personally I'm
having great games or not so great games, or playing
a bunch or not playing a bunch, It's like, I'm
gonna have the same attitude every single day I walk
in that building, and at the end of the day,
I have a lot of confidence myself. So when my
number is called and I need to play more or
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I need to get more opportunity, like I'm ready and
I feel great. And again I'm very blessed to be
able to play this game still in year thirteen and
whatever whatever that looks like, I'm going to take to
full advantage and be positive and be the best leader
I can be. So again, I'm very excited to be
back in Minnesota and be back in this organization, and
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I'm going to keep that mindset through this year.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Well as you well know too, it's remarkable how much
things can change week to week, right, I mean, somebody
else could get hurt in two weeks. There could be
just a different set of circumstances where it opens the
door you mentioned it. I mean to this league changes
week to week, and obviously condition in terms of who's
out on there, what the circumstances are, whose number gets called.
(33:54):
We've certainly seen that change dramatically over the course of
a season many times.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah, for sure. And I think it's I think it's
important to be the same guy every single day, regardless
of circumstance. And that's not easy, don't don't get me wrong.
It's not like, uh, that's something that's that's easy to
do or that just just happens, right, Like, you really
have to make sure that every single day that you
wake up and you walk in that building, that like
that's your mindset, that you're coming in there to give
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your best to do whatever you're supposed to you're told
to do, asked to do. And and again, I I
have so much faith and belief and and love for
this organization and this and this staff and this team.
And that's why I'm here, you know. And and uh,
if it was all about you know, the other things,
you know, maybe I mean I wouldn't be here. But again,
(34:41):
just very blessed to be here and and excited about
what that looks like. And and I want I want
to help this team win. Uh. And obviously you know
this this city or the state, and and this organization
or this fan base deserves to win, and that's that's
what we're trying to do, all right.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So now you get to buy h and you get
a little time to breathe, and perhaps the opportunity to
get a little bit healthier, because, as I said, even
though you've been around a long time, I can't remember
many times where the offensive line, for example, has had
to be shuffled to the degree it has this early
in the season.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And it was pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Basically you had different people than the expected starters pretty
much playing every.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Position along the line. And again, you know it.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I mean, nobody feels sorry for teams with injuries, but
this has been a pretty unusual circumstance so far, has
it not?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Absolutely? And I think that's another reason why that win
was so important on Sunday. It's like when you can
win some games with a lot of injuries and a
lot of missing pieces, I guess you could say, and
you can kind of get through a really tough stretch
and you can get some wins. Those things, those things
are going to pay off big time in the long run.
(35:56):
Just the experience that some guys are getting, the different
positions that they're playing that you never know when they're
gonna have to bounce back in there, or how many
games they're gonna have to play in there, Like those
are those are things that are only going to help us.
They're not going to hurt us in the long run.
So when you can sneak out victories and do it
through those circumstances, I think those are going to pay
big dividends in the long run.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
The division is I thought before the season began, looked
really interesting and it still does to me and I
But yet I think it's kind of it's sort of
hard to get a handle on pretty much every team,
right because your your team started with the idea of
JJ McCarthy is going to be the guy from the
start of the season. Maybe he will be prepared already
to come back for the the Eagles game.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
The Bears have been up and down.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
The Lions still look pretty good to me and the Packers,
I mean they lost to the Cleveland team that you
guys knocked off. What I will say is it looks
like there's great that I still feel like potentially there's
great depth in this division. Well, how do you size
up the division at this point? But almost you know,
a quarter through the season.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah, I mean, like you said, your only way to
this and so there's still a little bit unknown. Uh
that's what this great game is so great, right, Teams
where maybe unbelievable last year, maybe aren't great this year
or vice versa. So you really just don't know what
teams are until week six, seven, eight. But at the
same time, yeah, this this division is is deep and
(37:23):
a lot of great teams, a lot of really great players, uh,
star players on each of those teams that can really
help you win games. So uh, it's it's uh, it's
it's gonna be interesting as we get into these battles.
I think I was talking to my wife about it
yesterday or today. It's like, these these teams in this
division are gonna start beating up on each other and
it's gonna be tough. But that's that's that only is
(37:46):
gonna make us better when you play good competition like
that twice a year, uh, with three different teams. It's
it's it's definitely only gonna make you better and and
make you ready for you know, if if you can
get into those playoffs and and it's only gonna make
you ready for those the playoff type caliber teams that
you're going to be facing at that point.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Last item, tell me how many days off you have
and what your plans are.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
How do you or do you even try?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Is it even possible to sort of get away in
any sort of meaningful sense.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Well, I'm in the parking lot of an apple or
true right now. So that's step one. Is spend as
much family time as possible. But yeah, just spend time
with the family, get away from the building, get away
from football. Be able to watch a little football on
Saturday and Sunday, including one of my son's flag football games,
so that would be pretty pretty intense. But but yeah, no,
(38:39):
just spend as much time as a family. Really just
get back mentally physically. Ten days away in a different
two different countries is a long time to be away,
So just really try to make up some ground with
the family and and really just get re energized and
ready for a really tough stretch and a long second
half of the season.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
For sure, be prepared. We probably are you. You've you've
been down this road before. I gotta believe there's gonna
be people coming up, recognizing you, coming up, but to
you and offering their vote on whether Carson should remain
his quarterback for the Eagles game or whether the team
should go back to JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
You know how the quarterback stuff stirs the pot?
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Man, Oh definitely, And thank the Lord that I'm not
in those positions to make those decisions, so I get
to just I get to just run the play that's
called and catch the football from whoever's throwing it. But yeah, no,
it's the NFL is a crazy game and a crazy business,
and there's a lot of attention, and there's a lot
(39:37):
of what do they call him, armchair quarterbacks or whatever.
You know, there's a lot of those out there for sure.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Thanks for giving us time, extended time on your day off, man,
much appreciated, and we'll get back on regular schedules soon.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Thanks again.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
All right, thanks guys, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Adam feeling from an apple orchard, he said, hanging out
with the family, yet still giving us a little time
on his day off.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Isn't that nice of Adam feeling? Well, he's one of us.
It's not surprising.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Well, I mean, if he let's be honest, I mean,
look up in the record books where Adam Theelen ranks
in receptions and yards among Minnesota Vikings, Minneapolis Vikings.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Minneapol Viking. Isn't he top five in both?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I think he's want to say, third or fourth in both,
or at least one of the two, which I don't
even think a lot of people realize.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
And you know, he.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Said it's it's his playing time's going down so right
now at least, and it's got to be hard. But
I think he's smart enough to know at this point
you got to sort of wade through it. He wants
to hold on to most importantly, he got back here
right and I think that's what he's trying to hold
on to.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And we'll see. I said, the season.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Takes some very strange twists and turns, and often injuries
end up opening doors once again. I still think Fling
might have a play where we look back in the
season and and there's a several big throws that we
can say he was indeed responsible for.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
We will indeed see.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Matt and Saint Paul very unhappy, very unhappy, and not
from the hockey community. Really, there isn't a quarterback controversy
that's just you, well, well, what side of you that's
not true. But that's okay. If you if the word
controversy is fraud, don't use the word controversy, call it
(41:31):
a conundrum, situation. A decision will have to be made correct.
That's what I was reminded of yesterday. Man that the
the the Macobo's, they're they're not taking any of this well.
(41:52):
If there's any momentum to the idea of Wentz playing
against Philly, and by the way, as we said again yesterday,
injuries might well intercede there again, because the word is
the shoulder, the left shoulder that had you brimming over
with for the Brownstones, for the Brownstone Broser is apparently
(42:15):
not getting all that much better, and there's going to
be further examination of it. So I wouldn't be surprised
if they find, you know, something that makes the decision
clearer that even if the head coach wanted to give
Wentz another week, that it may have to be JJ
McCarthy or your guy Max Brosmer, who, as I said yesterday,
(42:36):
I never seen a kneel down that looked as professional
polished yep. As Brozemer at the end of the first
half in London.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I did like how they were like huddling up, and
he was looking over to the silence, like come on,
just get the ball and kneel down. Like even for me,
it's like, stop milkin it, guys, we know what you're
going to do here. I was devastating. Does it make
me a bad person? I was devastated. No, because you'd
predicted it was like a genius. I was just excited
to maybe see it happen. Yeah, because it wasn't going well.
(43:06):
We all watched it. It wasn't great. Now was awesome again.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Here's the other thing, and we didn't even this wasn't
one of the talking points. You did a nice job
as always on the talking points which we ran yesterday.
But again Wentz was up and down right. I'll grant
the point. But he wasn't responsible for either turnover either.
You do have to factor that in a little bit.
There were a pair of there were the two running
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backs had fumbles. Right committed fumble. Maybe he could have
handed it off cleaner. Well maybe maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
It's in the pocket.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
But in the end he had the drive of the game.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I mean, I just know this.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
If McCarthy has goes nine for nine and doesn't settle
for three and gets a touchdown for the dagger and
regulation the mcgobos are demanding a lifetime caprice off like
contract for their guy JJ.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Well, you have to remember those They spent a lot
of money on their McCarthy mansions, and so they're looking
out the big bay window and then they seeay time
will come. But they see cousin Eddie in the wins
Winnebago out there, you know, with the host basically saying
it's full, and they don't like that.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
They spend a lot of money on their McCarthy mansion.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
They don't love the Winnebago just pulling up to the
neighborhood and ruining Christmas.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
That's not what they're here.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I am on record as saying I would start Carson
Wentz against Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
I would.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
You know, it's not the last word. You don't have
to agree with it. If he's healthy, I would start
Carson Wentz against and not because of the angle, because
of it's his ex team. I don't care who I am. No,
I would extend it. I would play him. I'm that
and I admit maybe I'm too traumatized by what I
saw in Game two in McCarthy's second game. We got
(44:50):
some interesting analytics on that that we can get into
as well that are being kind of used against Carson Wentz.
But if you compare those same analytics to what JJ
McCarthy has done through two game, that's not even close.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
But we'll save all of that top of the hour break.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
As I mentioned Ron Komer, in about a half hour,
Luigi is going to join in the five o'clock hour
as well. I mean, it's commed down to puck drop
on ESPN right now.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Oh, is that right? Opening Night?
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Tonight?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Opening Night NHL on ESPN twenty four minutes in fact,
and I think it's Florida against the Chicago Blackhawks. If
I'm not mistake, Illinois Blackhawks, the Illinois Blackhawks. It's exactly it.
So I'm sure we'll get Louis on all of that.
I got a number of other good texts to read
and a couple of other subjects controversy wants to discuss,
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including a WNBA negotiations updates
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three o'clock Central daylight time, we welcome you back. It
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is a Tuesday edition of the Bumper to Bumper program
on a very crisp fall like weekday afternoon here in
the twin cities that we affectionately refer to as Many
Minneapolis and Saint Lewis Park. My name is Dan Burrero.
I host the program, guards he produces the show. He
is indeed back from his one day hiatus, and we
(00:43):
are delighted that you're long for today's full three and
one half hour tour. We're going all the way until
six thirty this very evening. Lou Nannie in studio, probably
in the five o'clock hour. I'm guessing Ron Coomer our
first visit with kom Dog in Ages. He's going to
join by telephone at four point thirty, and Adam Field
(01:08):
is expected at the bottom of this hour if he's
gotten all the proper rest since returning from the one
and one Vikings road trip across the Pond. Timing might
not be great for Komdog twins, I should say, Cubs down,
yeah to zero to Cato Kalin's Milwaukee Brewers. People feeling
(01:30):
pretty good about the Cubs three run home run in
the top of the first by Suzuki. Then what Brewers
get their own three run dong three to three at
the end of one. And then Milwaukee they can't stop
scoring runs the first game, I think they had nineteen
or twenty. Second game they had seven. They end up
winning seven to three. So see what Kumdag feels regarding
(01:51):
the current delicate condition of the Chicago.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Cubs Talk baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Just get caught up with him for the first time
in in quite some time.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You know what kum Dog has always told me? What's
that It's not a series until someone wins on the road.
I thought that was Flip. It might be kum Dog
I think said it too.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, Well, they haven't won yet on the road, No,
and they better get to winning at They better win
the next two at home, otherwise, well there won't be
an opportunity to win one on the road.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I don't think. Isn't this best of five?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think this is the best of five, and they're
down two games to none. By the way, I didn't
get into this yesterday. Were you you probably you know,
I'm gonna it's probably a stupid question to ask you,
but I'll ask anyway. Were you as? Were your sensibilities offended?
As much as apparently? Several locals were upset outraged at
(02:48):
an NFL Network statement from the host in the studio
referring to the Minnesota Vikings as the Minneapolis Vikings.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
The Minneapolis Vikings again, Yeah, was it a slip up?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yes? But are we is it really? Why does that
work us up so much? First of all, it might
be the Minnesota Vikings, but they play in Minneapolis. I
don't know how to break it to Saint Paul types,
but that's the truth. What about outstate, Well, you're on
your own too. I mean, I just, I just I'm
not sure it was worth the level of outrage because
(03:23):
it was.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I knew it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I heard it live and I said, I knew. I said,
she's toast. This host is dead beyond any meaning rational comprehension.
She's going to get obliterated over what I'm sure was
just a still slip of the tongue. Not that big
a deal. Doesn't mean do your homework you know, do
better NFL network. I don't think it was any of
(03:46):
those things. In fact, has she commented on it or
kidd about it? Know if she's commented on it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
But later this is what actually bothered me more, because no,
you're on live TV.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You're gonna make a mistake. Would you like it to happen? No,
obviously not.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
But I think she tried to double down later said
the Minnesota Vikings, who also happened to play in Minneapolis. Like,
I realize I screwed it up, but I couldn't tell
if she was trying to be fun about it or
like snippy about it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't blame her. If it was the latter, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I just like, because it's professional football, you should have
professional broadcasts.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Bleep you If you honestly believe that it's.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Unprofessional to call them the Minneapolis Vikings, you don't even
understand what professional is as far as I'm concerned, I mean,
come on, seriously, that's your your level of we're gonna
evaluate you know she's on our list. I thought it
was absolutely one of the more we're good at overcooking
(04:45):
here in this in this market, we're outstanding it over cooking,
and to me that one was right at the top
of the list. So I'll be honest, I don't know.
I didn't hear the follow up, but I wouldn't have
blamed her at all. And again, you know they do
play here. Break it to people. I mean, you can
come from out of town, but we do play. Do
we play in downtown Minneapolis?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We do the People Stadium? Just bizarre.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Anyway, where were we well, do we have? The question
on the table is whether we have or Bill garn Yeah,
has signers remorse?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I figured this is where you were going. I hopefulness
is listening.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, I gotta tell you this will be I'm sure
a major topic of conversation with Luigi in the five
o'clock hour. But by now I think even casual hockey
fans have heard the news about your guy. You call
him the best player in hockey. I think Connor McDade,
Cony McDavid's pretty good. Also number ninety seven. I think
(05:46):
do you remember all summer that that's true? The summer
deal was, Well, maybe agents are kind of everybody's kind
of waiting it out because they don't want to be
the first to sign. And that's what's holding up the
signing because you don't want to be the first domino
to fall when you find out that if you if
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you'd waited, the other domino, yeah, was going to get
even more money than you were going to demand. You
don't want to say that market exactly in the wrong direction.
You want the market set for you. Well, whatever market
caprice off set at seventeen million dollars a year. Connor
McDavid raised his hand and said, you know what I
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want to do. I want to help the team, team friendly.
I want to do everything you want to You want
to extend me two years twelve mil right now when
as far as far as I've been told, he could
have gotten the max right now right, I don't think
if if there's another player in the league getting seventeen
million year, I don't see how twelve million the year
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can be the max for Connor McDavid. He maybe he's
in a different contract situation, but I was told he
could make the max.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Who is the uh?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Who's the hockey insider who tweeted ninety seven could have
signed for the max? Wants to win extends for same
twelve point five million aa V of the expiring deal.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Wow. I mean, I gotta believe Garren choked on his
crumpets a little bit today. I mean it all so
maybe he had inside information and he knew and I
look deep down.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Does he have signers? Remorse? No, he had to sign him.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
But my god, does that number not hit you right
in the solar plexus?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
He did yesterday when I saw it. Yes, I said
he signed for what what happened?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah? Good for him, I get it, I get it.
He can wait.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And get you know, the CAP's gonna keep going up
and eventually he'll get an even bigger payday.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's not the point. All summer.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
What the hockey people said is watch McDavid. That's that's
the other guy you have to watch year And the
assumption was he wasn't going to be interested in waiting,
So good for him, good for his team and.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
R ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You're on the clock, man, I mean, you got what
you can get. That's what your agent's job is. But
that's a startling disparity in yearly yearly salary, right for
a guy.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Who a lot of people think is the best.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Player in the game correct or on the verge of
becoming the best player in Conrad, but he's just insane. Yeah,
and they've been to the finals back to back years now,
Devil's advocate. Yeah, he's a little younger than Caprisoff. True,
because that was the other thing. It was, do you
want to sign a guy to a really long contract
when it's going to be thirty five, thirty six, thirty
seven at the end. I think the Wild had to
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do it. Edmonton probably didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yes, But are the Oilers even more on the clock
because when he's done with this, it's what he's thirty
one thirty two, and then maybe he doesn't want to
play there anymore. Maybe they have to sign them to
an even more ridiculous deal. That's possible, But in the
intro and the short term, it's a great the short term,
it's a great deal for the team, and presumably it
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does give them a little more flat. Look, we accepted
that our flexibility is going to be limited, but you
had to do it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But I'm curious to know what other players and agents
think about this, right. That's what interests me too, because
there's a part of this that I respect that McDavid
is saying, I don't care what I'm supposed to sign
for I don't care that I'm supposed to know. You
can't get in the way of all the players, all
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of the best players in the movement that you're supposed
to be a part of. And he just said, I'm
going to do it my way now again, he's going
to eventually get a payoff. But we're not talking about
down the road. We're talking about now. And there was
nobody in hockey, nobody who was predicting that this was
the way McDavid was going to go. So all this
stuff now ault strategy. Why didn't we hear about this
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strategy all summer?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
We heard, Well, who's gonna blink first in terms of,
you know, again setting the market. So it's a it's
an interesting little development and nugget that it's hard to avoid.
It's kind of hard to miss given the obscene nature
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of the contract awarded Corill Capriso. Even though, as you said,
we get it, they're different ages, they are at different
periods in their career. But this was not the way
we were hearing was going to go. I'll be very
curious to get Luigi's view on all of that as well,
because I know when Louis when we've talked to Louis
about McDavid.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I don't think he expected this either. Doesn't sound familiar.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Oh for sure, Fan, you want to give away money, Fan,
and two men and a junk truck want to help
with that.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It is bonus bucks.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
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Speaker 1 (10:57):
We got a lot of good texts coming in from
the hockey community. That's one of the more sensitive in
all of town, as we've known for quite some time.
Statement six month, two guy rights. Get back to me
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when you find out the Imam McDavid is being paid
to be the spokesman for Cosafina and his no show
gig as a day laborer with four seasons total landscaping.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Very very well played there.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
People, I I I understand this is a sensitive issue
for for wild fans. You're you're turning your ear, You're
you're twisting yourselves into pretzels trying to make yourselves feel
better about it it. Let's just say, for the sake
of discussion that it's going to cost, if he's going
to stay at all, an exponentially greater amount of money
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to keep him above and beyond the caprice off deal
in two years than is the case right now if
he has signed right now.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So what do you think the team is that team?
How many finals has he been to? Is it two?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Three? You think that's scared now? There may be a
feeling that he's just ready. He's frustrated and he's ready
to move on, and this is his way to challenge
the team to I'm opening the door financially, go out
and do what you need to do now.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I don't know if there's enough time yet to.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Do anything about that unless you do something via trade
at this.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Point, but.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He's he's a far more accomplished player in terms of
what his team has done. And by the way, the
age difference is only like four months between the two.
Is a turn out. It's not that dramatic. So you know, again,
I h We'll get Louis's view on it. Somebody said
Russo had predicted that it might go this route. It's
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a startling contrast. And if you're defensive about that, I
can't help you. I'm sorry it but it's you'd be
kind of foolish to suggest that no matter what this
is going to mean, down the road for how much
his home team is going to have to spend or
if even it's likely that they're going to be able
to keep him at all in the short term. It
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gives that team greater flexibility obviously than the middicot.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's say, what's the difference a year? What do we say?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's five million different year twelve defense four and a
half to five million dollars a year. So I don't
know how you can look at it any other way
he might have I'm not even suggesting that he might
not have his strategic McDavid his strategic reasons for doing it,
then the end will serve him better. I'm just saying
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that's a far more advantageous position then I'll take. I
will take that risk for a player who has already
gotten me to the Cup finals going shorter, knowing I
might get blown away on the back end. If I
can keep him at all, then we got We got
Caprice Off for twenty five more years, because we've got
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really nothing from an equity standpoint to show for it
right now, and we've already heard this a couple of times.
Just wait two years, the Caprice Off deal will be
considered a bargain. So what great, We're happy for you.
I've on record, I think you're on record is saying
they had to sign him. I'm not admonishing them for
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signing him in any way, shape or form. But hockey people,
insiders around the National Hockey League believe this is a
fascinating contrast and a big story period. No matter what
predictions were made about how far you would go. You know, again,
I would still say, is I understand it? He could
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have signed for the Max on a two year extension
as well, Right, yeah, he could have done that.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
What you know, why wouldn't he do that?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You can say, well, because he wants to open the
door to his team adding pieces.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
That's the point.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So even if you've stuck at two years, he still
could have gone for at a much higher number.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Oh yeah, so yeah, And it's basically I'm just talking
on this contract. The other reason why he might be
willing to do this is he's coming off an eight year,
one hundred million dollar contract, you know, so he's he's
gotten paid big time already.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Right, I get that, But that doesn't that doesn't stop.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Most players from taking the next step and saying, well,
I can get another one hundred million, whatever the highest
amount is. I'll still take it. How many times have
we been there? Well, he's got how much money do
you need? That's not how most of these players are
generally work.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It's the anti Kirk correct.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Basically Dan Rostro's hockey take as usual, capriceof deals a
slam dunk. Only you will find the negative. I'll say
it for the third time. I don't know what else
to tell you, man, I understand. Like I said, it's
the most sensitive sports community in this town, the hockey community. Well,
actually I think it's second. It may be running neck
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and neck with Links fans as far as I'm concerned
right now, but we've endorsed it. We're also allowed to
comment on this interesting contrast. It's okay, we're not saying
renounce the contract of Capriceov, but I will say what
I've said even when they signed him.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
This is half the job, this is half the battle.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It will mean nothing if you don't do the other half,
which is maximized on what he is supposed to mean individually.
And I would say McDavid's team has done gone come
closer to that than caprice offs to this point. Unless
I miss something unless I missed one or two Cup
final appearances with Caprice Off, I don't know that that
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is indeed the case. What else did I have for you?
Oh well, let me get I'll get to a couple
more texts here. What do you think the Wild done?
The Caprice Off?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Sign him? Sign them?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I don't know what to tell you. I don't know
what you want to hear exactly. All we're pointing out
is the contrast. And I gotta believe even if Garan
knew it was coming, that it had to make him
wins a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
That's all because there's not much flexibility. According to Russo,
there's not much flexibility left for us.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Contractually right now.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Correct now we could make a deal that could change that,
but right now we don't. I would say this, it
would be nice to have had a player in a
situation like Connor McDavid like they've had for the last decade.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
And it took a.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
While to get going, that's true, but it's been tremendous
the last two years. I mean, we've seen the videos
coming out of Edmonton. What a place to do it, correct,
But then to be able to have the situation where
you're coming off back to back Cup final runs and
you just got to keep this guy in he's and
you can. You don't have to go crazy with the
money to do it. It's just a better overall situation.
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I think that's what this is kind of a reminder of.
Now the clock is ticking if you don't win a
Cup and he maybe maybe he comes in two years
and says, as great as it is here in.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Canada, maybe he'll want maybe he'll want to join Caprice.
Off with the while state of hockey.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, we'll probably have our new arena by then, or
at least our new upgrades and everything will all be great.
That's that's the one thing is it's just such a
solid situation there. That's what I think I would be
most envious of.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well, I meanwhile, are we starting another season injury racked
in a way that's going to not allow us to
get We've got a few out of the gate, right, Yeah,
we've got a shook sook. He's on time, on correct.
And now your guy Nico Sturm, how about him? Yeah,
he's art too, he's got a back issue, he's on
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injured reserve.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I always felt almost from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
We'll see what Luigi thinks that maybe we're counting too
much on him anyway, But I I'm already starting to
get worried about where we are injured?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And how's Caprisov's eye? Didn't you have an eye issue too?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
And now we signed Gusbus while I was gone or
over the weekend?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
We did? So does that mean we don't like our
kid anymore? What happened to Wally? Well? I thought we
loved him?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, I think we do, but I think we've decided
that we can't. We haven't seen enough good from him
to count on him yet, and we got to hedge
our beat, I guess so. Yeah, So wh here's the best?
This one I didn't expect to see.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
This is from MO out of Wrigleyville, Chicago.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Dan Billy g is a fraud and a snake oil
salesman who finds band aid fixes so he can use
as an excuse down the road as to why his
team's not winning playoff games. That's MO from Chicago formerly
of now uh forgotten uptown Minneapolis.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's where the Vikings play.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Well? Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Would now would we be? Would Saint Paul be bitter.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
If before the Wild's first game, the national announcer says,
and the Saint Paul Wilde start, No, they.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Would embrace it.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, that's where we play, that's where the team plays.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Want it bad?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
One broadcaster once says Minneapolis Vikings, and we've lost our mind.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I actually thought it was kind of cute. I I
kind of liked it, and I said, you know, that's that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Maybe maybe we start calling them the Minneapolis Vikings. I
can you're detaching yourself on that.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, it's yourself technically true kind of Yeah, would we
call them the Arden Hills Vikings if that's where they went?
Are you gonna call the Bears the Arlington Heights Bears.
I'm willing to.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I have no problems you start calling them the Arlington
Heights Bears in five years, Well, it's not the Illinois
Bears anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
It is a city.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
It's not unprecedented for the city to be represented in the.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Name of a team. It's a lot of them, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So at I just don't think it should be that
big of a deal. All Right, we got a break
for Adam Thielen back from across the pond. We'll see
what he has to say about the one on one
trip to Europe, and who knows what else he's new.
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Don't forget about an hour baseball conversation with our good friend,
an old friend, Ron Coomer Cubs kind of on the ropes,
but we'll catch up with him. He, of course, is
on the outstanding Chicago Cubs radio network. He is at
four thirty, and we expect Louis and Studio in the
five o'clock hour. The Vikings have returned from their two week,
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close to two weeks, certainly two game trip across the Pond.
They come back one and one after coming from behind
Lake to knock off the Cleveland Browns. Adam Thielend kind
enough to join us now via the Connectico Water Systems hotline.
How do how do you do in general on jet lag?
You're you're a grizzled veteran. I'm assuming of travel, But
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is it pretty Do you have it down pretty much
to a science? Now?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Is it still kind of challenging?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
No? I think I got it down to a science.
I think it's like one of those things where you
just you just set your mind on it, right, like
you just know that it's gonna be a little foggy.
It's a great excuse for me to drink more coffee,
which I'm not complaining about. And yeah, you just kind
of figure it out. You kind of mind over matter
a little bit, and at some then that's always been
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I guess maybe a strength of mine is just being
able to kind of, you know, adapt to whatever's going
on and figure it out.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So coffee, are you just old fashioned, hardcore coffee guy
or you foo food drink latte guy?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
What's your coffee of choice?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
No, sir, just black coffee. You give me a good
cup of hot black coffee, and and my day is
My day is good.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's all it takes. So is that first thing in
the morning.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I'm I'm kind of more. I'm very scheduled of mine
because I know that if I started right away in
the morning, I'd have way too much fee and way
too much coffee. So I'm very routine. I make sure basically,
my first cup of the day is usually the first meeting. Uh,
so I can handle the long, monotonous meetings that we
have on Wednesdays and Thursdays and uh And it's kind
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of my way to keep my add in check while
in meetings. But yeah, usually usually a couple of cups
in the morning during meetings, and then you know, one
half for noon cup to get me going, either before
practiced or before I get home with the crazy kids.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, no cream, no sugar, nothing, just a black coffee
every how far is that go back?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Well? Do you want to know the origin story of
my of my coffee drinking? Okay, well I can credit
it to Norv Turner because I had to sit in
his game plan meetings where he went through every single
play that we had up that week, which was like
at times one hundred and sixty slides, where he went
through every little detail of every play. And at that
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point I was like, all right, I need I need
something to get me through this. And if he focused
and locked in and turned to coffee.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
That's too good. Did he ever have did you ever
reveal this to him? Did he have any inkling of
that you were his inspiration?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
No? But that's a good point. I should give him
a call and just thank him for opening my eyes
and uh and to the coffee world, which has been great, I.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Which I should say he was your inspiration to say
it better? All right?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You do come back with a victory, you get the
late drive that you needed. I I you know, I
gotta feel that that's one of those games where you
say you have to you sort of have to find
a way to win it.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
How did you view it?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Yeah, I think I think that was kind of my thing,
you know, in the locker room before the game, on
the sidelines during the game, is like, guys, we gotta
find a way, Like like I don't care what it
looks like, I don't care how it happens, but like
keep fighting because we got we got to win this game.
Like this game means so much more than anyone probably
knows or you know, we'll be able to look back
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at at the end of the season and how important
that one game was. And they all are right. This
league is just there's no game that does that means
more than the other. But going into a bye week,
just from the momentum standpoint, just from the mental side
of things, it was so important to win that game, uh,
and so obviously thankful for that made the trip extremely
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long trip nine hour flights back a lot better. So
I was. I think I stood up for the first
six hours of that flight before I fall fell asleep,
so I wouldn't fall asleep before that, but it made
it more enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
The last drive, I believe Carson Wentz was nine for nine.
I thought he looked really good on that drive. I
thought it was well called by your head coach Slash,
you know, obviously play caller as well.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
What did you what did you think? What did you
make of it?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah, I mean, I think just how that game went
of kind of how our offense was moving the ball
and things like that. You know, a lot of credit
to coach for his play calling and obviously the whole
coaching staff of kind of getting that information to him
to kind of figure out a way to move the
ball with out taking hits and keeping keeping Carson upright
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and getting getting the ball in the playmaker's hands. And
I think I think it was obviously a great job
by the staff, but also as Carson and just getting
the ball out, finding finding guys, going to the guys
that you can count on in big situations, and then
and then the guys you know, I think, you know
TJ had a great catch and just got vertical and
and really you know, get the first down. That's huge.
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Those those plays are huge that no one's going to
talk about. You know, I don't know how many yards
TJ had in the game, but those plays are huge
that no one's going to talk about. But to be
able to catch the ball, get vertical, get a first down,
just to keep the drive and momentum going and not
have to get to a third down or or second
and whatever. Those are little huge plays and really helped
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us to be able to get down the field and
getting field goal range first, and then you get to
that field goal range and then it's like, all right,
let's go win this and not put this in the
two overtime's hands and go win it. So that was great.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I actually don't think Cleveland
would have ever scored again anyway. But you're right, you
have a chance to win it, you go ahead and
do it. You know, justin Jefferson very well, But you
were away from him for a little while, you know, elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'm wondering what you came back to.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
What you saw that's different, if anything about JJ as
he is obviously grown in stature and experience in the.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
League, I think just an even better teammate and obviously
everyone knows the type of player he is but just
the maturity that he's really he was mature when he
came into the league just for you know, being so
young and not a lot of experience, and he really
was ahead of his time as far as maturity wise.
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But he's grown so much as a person. He's grown
so much as a leader. I wouldn't say that when
I was here last that he was like the strongest
leader in the world, but he didn't have to be.
And I think he's really taken ownership to be that
strong leader, to be a role model for the younger
guys and to help them grow on the field, but
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also off the field. I heard some great comments from
him after the game talking about his role there with
with certain guys and and trying to be that for
them through his experiences. But yeah, I think I think
the biggest thing that sticks out to me is just
his being a teammate, right, Like, he's not a guy
that is gonna just you know, whine and be a
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diva just because you know, he's going to be out
there to help this team win games and do it
as a leader.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You know. He brought up in fact after the game
and speaking of the leadership part of this that he
wants to take Jordan Addison under his wing a little more.
The head coach was very public about saying that the
reason Jordan didn't play in the first quarter was because
he'd missed a walkthrough and and it sounds like JJ's
saying I got to try to have a greater influence
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on him. You've been around a long time too, So
is that something you try to get involved in. Do
you do it if the player wants it, you know,
your second time around with this team. I'm curious to
get your view because obviously the kid can play.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
I mean, he made a great catch late.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
He can be an important part of what this team does,
but he's had some issues. So is that something you
might get involved in as well, or do you back
away from that?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Well, I believe in building relationships. You know, That's something
I've really, really, really really enjoy and I think it's
it's part of you know, why I'm still playing this game.
It's to build those relationships, to have a friendship and
then be there where I need to be. And I
think when you build a friendship and you build a
relationship person and guys can trust you, then that's when
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you can pour into them and you can help them
all in the field, off the field, what have you.
So that's kind of where I'm focused on, is making
sure that he really trusts me and that I can
be there for him when he needs me. And yeah,
I think I think that's a huge part of playing
in this league a long time. You know, God, God
has blessed me and given me this opportunity, and I
think it's more than just making plays. As much as
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I love doing that and getting the ball in my hand,
but you know, I know there's bigger things than that.
So I say that all a long winded answer to
say that, yes, I'm very committed to building these relationships
with not just him but the entire team and trying
to be a resource where I can.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Well, it may have been a long winded answer, but
I thought it was an important answer because I can't
help but wonder and a lot of people have wondered
about this. You know, your snaps have gone down. I
think in the Browns game you had fourteen snaps against
them ten in the first quarter when Addison was sideline
and you were on the field. I think over seventy
(31:36):
percent on snaps the first three weeks. You're a guy
who still I know, feels he can contribute. You can
still catch the ball. I also know you do pride
yourself on doing other things, and I'm wondering if you
have you know, part of that philosophy is what helps
you through as a player who I'm assuming wants to
play more. How are you dealing with the way the
role has seemingly gone down since Addison came back? Adam,
(32:09):
did we lose him?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
It's gone all right, let's put let's put back on hole.
See you can get them back. Oh? Oh, I think
I heard him?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Did you, Adam? Did you hear we we lost you
for a minute there? Did Did you hear the question?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Long winded?
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I heard the I heard the first part of it,
but my my phone must have cut out. But but yeah,
I think I think I got to. But yeah, I
think for me, you know, I said it in the
press conference when I first got here, It's like, I'm
not going to forget this, this feeling that I had
when I first got back in that building, and how
important that place is to me, how important the organization,
(32:44):
you know, what it means to me, And I'm not
going to forget that through the ups and downs of
a season, whether we're winning or losing, whether personally I'm
having great games or not so great games, or playing
a bunch or not playing a bunch, It's like, I'm
gonna have the same attitude every single day I walk
in that building, and at the end of the day,
I have a lot of confidence myself. So when my
number is called and I need to play more or
(33:05):
I need to get more opportunity, like I'm ready and
I feel great. And again I'm very blessed to be
able to play this game still in year thirteen and
whatever whatever that looks like, I'm going to take to
full advantage and be positive and be the best leader
I can be. So again, I'm very excited to be
back in Minnesota and be back in this organization, and
(33:28):
I'm going to keep that mindset through this year.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Well as you well know too, it's remarkable how much
things can change week to week, right, I mean, somebody
else could get hurt in two weeks. There could be
just a different set of circumstances where it opens the
door you mentioned it. I mean to this league changes
week to week, and obviously condition in terms of who's
out on there, what the circumstances are, whose number gets called.
(33:54):
We've certainly seen that change dramatically over the course of
a season many times.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah, for sure. And I think it's I think it's
important to be the same guy every single day, regardless
of circumstance. And that's not easy, don't don't get me wrong.
It's not like, uh, that's something that's that's easy to
do or that just just happens, right, Like, you really
have to make sure that every single day that you
wake up and you walk in that building, that like
that's your mindset, that you're coming in there to give
(34:20):
your best to do whatever you're supposed to you're told
to do, asked to do. And and again, I I
have so much faith and belief and and love for
this organization and this and this staff and this team.
And that's why I'm here, you know. And and uh,
if it was all about you know, the other things,
you know, maybe I mean I wouldn't be here. But again,
(34:41):
just very blessed to be here and and excited about
what that looks like. And and I want I want
to help this team win. Uh. And obviously you know
this this city or the state, and and this organization
or this fan base deserves to win, and that's that's
what we're trying to do, all right.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So now you get to buy h and you get
a little time to breathe, and perhaps the opportunity to
get a little bit healthier, because, as I said, even
though you've been around a long time, I can't remember
many times where the offensive line, for example, has had
to be shuffled to the degree it has this early
in the season.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And it was pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Basically you had different people than the expected starters pretty
much playing every.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Position along the line. And again, you know it.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I mean, nobody feels sorry for teams with injuries, but
this has been a pretty unusual circumstance so far, has
it not?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Absolutely? And I think that's another reason why that win
was so important on Sunday. It's like when you can
win some games with a lot of injuries and a
lot of missing pieces, I guess you could say, and
you can kind of get through a really tough stretch
and you can get some wins. Those things, those things
are going to pay off big time in the long run.
(35:56):
Just the experience that some guys are getting, the different
positions that they're playing that you never know when they're
gonna have to bounce back in there, or how many
games they're gonna have to play in there, Like those
are those are things that are only going to help us.
They're not going to hurt us in the long run.
So when you can sneak out victories and do it
through those circumstances, I think those are going to pay
big dividends in the long run.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
The division is I thought before the season began, looked
really interesting and it still does to me and I
But yet I think it's kind of it's sort of
hard to get a handle on pretty much every team,
right because your your team started with the idea of
JJ McCarthy is going to be the guy from the
start of the season. Maybe he will be prepared already
to come back for the the Eagles game.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
The Bears have been up and down.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
The Lions still look pretty good to me and the Packers,
I mean they lost to the Cleveland team that you
guys knocked off. What I will say is it looks
like there's great that I still feel like potentially there's
great depth in this division. Well, how do you size
up the division at this point? But almost you know,
a quarter through the season.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah, I mean, like you said, your only way to
this and so there's still a little bit unknown. Uh
that's what this great game is so great, right, Teams
where maybe unbelievable last year, maybe aren't great this year
or vice versa. So you really just don't know what
teams are until week six, seven, eight. But at the
same time, yeah, this this division is is deep and
(37:23):
a lot of great teams, a lot of really great players, uh,
star players on each of those teams that can really
help you win games. So uh, it's it's uh, it's
it's gonna be interesting as we get into these battles.
I think I was talking to my wife about it
yesterday or today. It's like, these these teams in this
division are gonna start beating up on each other and
it's gonna be tough. But that's that's that only is
(37:46):
gonna make us better when you play good competition like
that twice a year, uh, with three different teams. It's
it's it's definitely only gonna make you better and and
make you ready for you know, if if you can
get into those playoffs and and it's only gonna make
you ready for those the playoff type caliber teams that
you're going to be facing at that point.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Last item, tell me how many days off you have
and what your plans are.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
How do you or do you even try?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Is it even possible to sort of get away in
any sort of meaningful sense.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Well, I'm in the parking lot of an apple or
true right now. So that's step one. Is spend as
much family time as possible. But yeah, just spend time
with the family, get away from the building, get away
from football. Be able to watch a little football on
Saturday and Sunday, including one of my son's flag football games,
so that would be pretty pretty intense. But but yeah, no,
(38:39):
just spend as much time as a family. Really just
get back mentally physically. Ten days away in a different
two different countries is a long time to be away,
So just really try to make up some ground with
the family and and really just get re energized and
ready for a really tough stretch and a long second
half of the season.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
For sure, be prepared. We probably are you. You've you've
been down this road before. I gotta believe there's gonna
be people coming up, recognizing you, coming up, but to
you and offering their vote on whether Carson should remain
his quarterback for the Eagles game or whether the team
should go back to JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
You know how the quarterback stuff stirs the pot?
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Man, Oh definitely, And thank the Lord that I'm not
in those positions to make those decisions, so I get
to just I get to just run the play that's
called and catch the football from whoever's throwing it. But yeah, no,
it's the NFL is a crazy game and a crazy business,
and there's a lot of attention, and there's a lot
(39:37):
of what do they call him, armchair quarterbacks or whatever.
You know, there's a lot of those out there for sure.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Thanks for giving us time, extended time on your day off, man,
much appreciated, and we'll get back on regular schedules soon.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Thanks again.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
All right, thanks guys, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Adam feeling from an apple orchard, he said, hanging out
with the family, yet still giving us a little time
on his day off.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Isn't that nice of Adam feeling? Well, he's one of us.
It's not surprising.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Well, I mean, if he let's be honest, I mean,
look up in the record books where Adam Theelen ranks
in receptions and yards among Minnesota Vikings, Minneapolis Vikings.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Minneapol Viking. Isn't he top five in both?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I think he's want to say, third or fourth in both,
or at least one of the two, which I don't
even think a lot of people realize.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
And you know, he.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Said it's it's his playing time's going down so right
now at least, and it's got to be hard. But
I think he's smart enough to know at this point
you got to sort of wade through it. He wants
to hold on to most importantly, he got back here
right and I think that's what he's trying to hold
on to.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And we'll see. I said, the season.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Takes some very strange twists and turns, and often injuries
end up opening doors once again. I still think Fling
might have a play where we look back in the
season and and there's a several big throws that we
can say he was indeed responsible for.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
We will indeed see.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Matt and Saint Paul very unhappy, very unhappy, and not
from the hockey community. Really, there isn't a quarterback controversy
that's just you, well, well, what side of you that's
not true. But that's okay. If you if the word
controversy is fraud, don't use the word controversy, call it
(41:31):
a conundrum, situation. A decision will have to be made correct.
That's what I was reminded of yesterday. Man that the
the the Macobo's, they're they're not taking any of this well.
(41:52):
If there's any momentum to the idea of Wentz playing
against Philly, and by the way, as we said again yesterday,
injuries might well intercede there again, because the word is
the shoulder, the left shoulder that had you brimming over
with for the Brownstones, for the Brownstone Broser is apparently
(42:15):
not getting all that much better, and there's going to
be further examination of it. So I wouldn't be surprised
if they find, you know, something that makes the decision
clearer that even if the head coach wanted to give
Wentz another week, that it may have to be JJ
McCarthy or your guy Max Brosmer, who, as I said yesterday,
(42:36):
I never seen a kneel down that looked as professional
polished yep. As Brozemer at the end of the first
half in London.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I did like how they were like huddling up, and
he was looking over to the silence, like come on,
just get the ball and kneel down. Like even for me,
it's like, stop milkin it, guys, we know what you're
going to do here. I was devastating. Does it make
me a bad person? I was devastated. No, because you'd
predicted it was like a genius. I was just excited
to maybe see it happen. Yeah, because it wasn't going well.
(43:06):
We all watched it. It wasn't great. Now was awesome again.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Here's the other thing, and we didn't even this wasn't
one of the talking points. You did a nice job
as always on the talking points which we ran yesterday.
But again Wentz was up and down right. I'll grant
the point. But he wasn't responsible for either turnover either.
You do have to factor that in a little bit.
There were a pair of there were the two running
(43:31):
backs had fumbles. Right committed fumble. Maybe he could have
handed it off cleaner. Well maybe maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
It's in the pocket.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
But in the end he had the drive of the game.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I mean, I just know this.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
If McCarthy has goes nine for nine and doesn't settle
for three and gets a touchdown for the dagger and
regulation the mcgobos are demanding a lifetime caprice off like
contract for their guy JJ.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Well, you have to remember those They spent a lot
of money on their McCarthy mansions, and so they're looking
out the big bay window and then they seeay time
will come. But they see cousin Eddie in the wins
Winnebago out there, you know, with the host basically saying
it's full, and they don't like that.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
They spend a lot of money on their McCarthy mansion.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
They don't love the Winnebago just pulling up to the
neighborhood and ruining Christmas.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
That's not what they're here.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I am on record as saying I would start Carson
Wentz against Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
I would.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
You know, it's not the last word. You don't have
to agree with it. If he's healthy, I would start
Carson Wentz against and not because of the angle, because
of it's his ex team. I don't care who I am. No,
I would extend it. I would play him. I'm that
and I admit maybe I'm too traumatized by what I
saw in Game two in McCarthy's second game. We got
(44:50):
some interesting analytics on that that we can get into
as well that are being kind of used against Carson Wentz.
But if you compare those same analytics to what JJ
McCarthy has done through two game, that's not even close.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
But we'll save all of that top of the hour break.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
As I mentioned Ron Komer, in about a half hour,
Luigi is going to join in the five o'clock hour
as well. I mean, it's commed down to puck drop
on ESPN right now.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Oh, is that right? Opening Night?
Speaker 4 (45:19):
Tonight?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Opening Night NHL on ESPN twenty four minutes in fact,
and I think it's Florida against the Chicago Blackhawks. If
I'm not mistake, Illinois Blackhawks, the Illinois Blackhawks. It's exactly it.
So I'm sure we'll get Louis on all of that.
I got a number of other good texts to read
and a couple of other subjects controversy wants to discuss,
(45:40):
including a WNBA negotiations updates
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