October 28, 2025 • 54 mins
Lou Nanne joins in-studio for the entire 5:00 hour and joins for the Top 5 before Louie discusses the Wild struggles and (as always) has some amazing stories to tell.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
All right, top of the five o'clock hour, Top five
at five. Luigi is back. It's shocking to find out
he's in the house. He's in town on a day
where we've been largely in the forties and it's been
very rainy. But my assumption is you'll be out of
here pretty soon Saturday morning. Saturday morning to take you physically.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, I've got to go to Florida Sarity for a
week and then I go away from there.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Which island of this time?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The Big Island? I have a conference.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh yeah, the Big Island. That's where you you've been there?
Is that always where your conferences? Or is this a
different kind? No, this is a different one, of course.
Well it's more than one conference. I should have known
by now, Guardie, what do you think here? What do
you want to start?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Well, I'm wondering did we ever figure out have we
ever gotten to the bottom of why the four seasons
than Mali doesn't have an ATM in the lobby because
I know that really bugged you a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Has that gotten rectified? Yeah? Ready to make always another
trip out?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
How can you not have an ATMA? Does I know
everything goes cash free?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Let's start with the Vikings because they are the a topic,
the quarterback situation, the Carson Wentz surgery, which we learned
about yesterday. The first time KOC spoke publicly about it
was today on the Paul Allen Projects, part of the
Vikings X's and O's kind of simulcast.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
He joins PA during the week.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
If you miss it, you get another shot on Wednesday
nights right here at six thirty, all across the Vikings
Audio network. But one of the things they talked about
in this two and a half minute clip was everyone
on the same page on Thursday night and even going
back to the Cleveland game or the games following once
Carson Wentz got injured. Was everyone the head coach, the quarterback,
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the medical team on the same page with the plan.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah. And I think it's very, very important that the
dialogue with myself and the player always takes place after
the dialogue with the player and the medical staff, and
then the medical staff making sure that you know, uh one,
Carson is capable of continuing. The circumstances really had not
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changed from the time he sustained the injury kind of
late in the first half against the Cleveland Browns. It
was really just, you know, the ability to just tolerate
when certain types of hits or falls on that shoulder happened,
the pain tolerance, and and that's where Carson had made
the the determination that he wanted to, you know, fight
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and and really play as long as he possibly could.
And there were some times there in the second half
where you know, as a head coach, you're you're you're
looking for confirmation from Carson and the medical staff that
you know, uh where.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
He's he's still good to go.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
And you get that, and ultimately you want to do
what's best for the player and ultimately give him an
opportunity to kind of as long as medically you're in
the clear, you want to make sure you give that
player the runway, especially with the kind of toughness and
determination that Carson had to kind of finish the job.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And you're right, we don't ever.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Our game is one where you're always a player two
away from either getting back in the game, even off
of you know, Josh Mittel's interception and we score that touchdown,
you're really thinking one stop and then you get one more.
That's how we think, that's how we compete. That's how
we've been able to come back and win a lot
of one score games by having that mentality. As games
go and as games kind of come towards the finish line,
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you find a way to win a football game. And
if you're ever in this business and thinking that you
are not playing like that, you're probably not not.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
In the right business.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
And that goes for coaches and players, and that just
speaks to who Carson is and but not no Pa,
And there was never a point in time where medically
we were going against the grain of what was in
Carson's best interest and ultimately what Carson ultimately wanted to
kind of see through until he ultimately made the decision
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that he wanted to.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Get it fixed.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Which have so much respect for not only the commitment
to play as he as he showed and many of
the things he did playing on the field for our team,
but also that when Carson said it was time and
and he wanted to get that thing fixed, you know,
we wanted to make.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Sure that we were in full support of that.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Louis, you're a very competitive guy. You were when you played,
you have been all your life in a number of
different ways. I can't tell you how completely I disagree
with the head coach. I think there are times where
he's talking about doing what the player is, what's in
the best interest in the player. There is not a
person in the world will convinced me that what the
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head coach did was in the best interest of Carson
Wentz in that occasion, given the degree of pain he
was clearly so and feeling. I don't care how badly
he wants to be out there. There are moments when
a coach who's responsible takes the pressure off that player
and takes him out of the game. That guy should
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not have been playing in the fourth quarter for me, period,
end of story.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
What do you think, Well, it's not that I want
to second yes the coach, because like you said, I've
played in difficult situations so of all my teammates. But
the phrase that you just used, in the best interest,
he had that arm so you know, protected, so to speak,
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and yet it still didn't do any good. And I
think you do need the other arm. If he didn't
need the other arm, then I understand that. But I
think you need the other arm if you're trying to
run away from somebody, give him a stiff arm. Whatever.
I believe he could have done the point. And of
course I wanted to see Mexican in there, but he
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fought like crazy to stay in there, but he was.
I used to say to the players, if you're going
to play with an injury, you have to play with
this one thing in mind. The people that paint of
what you play believe you're capable of playing one hundred percent.
They don't know if you heard or not, so they
can't give you a pass because you already got a
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bad groin. But you're out there skating. So when you
go out in the field, even if you're injured, it's
not the fact that you want to play injured. You
owe to the fans to tell them that you're playing
at one hundred percent. That's the thing I just about it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm still yeah, the whole thing is just bizarre to me.
I don't and I don't deny that the doctors may
have said. Doctors can say whatever they want. You know
how this works in leadership to the head coach. Ultimately,
you can make any call you want and it's not
gonna be No one's gonna judge Wentz as well. He
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walked away. He was wimpy. They saw what he was
doing with the game. To me, when it gets to
Louis to thirty four to ten, with about I don't know,
ten minutes to go in the fourth, the game's over.
That's what I was saying, the game's over. So just
at that point now they did pull. I'm late. It
was much later. I think it was two minutes to
go that last that last drive. So I I just
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shake my head. The the for me, the alibiing that's
done here. I don't believe it. And I said this
the other day. If Mike Zimmer does the same thing
and continues to play once the way the Kaos did,
he would be getting drilled by media people. They would
in humane stop with the old school nonsense. For some reason,
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Kaos is allowed to skate on this. I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, the decision was made. Yeah, as he's trying to
say right now that it was, and of course the
player agreed with it.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Right, he's going to do He's going to do as
you know. I just think what you said.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
When it's thirty four to ten, you have to see
how are we going to come back as he came
able of bringing them back at because you can see it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's another great point. It's even if you don't want
to concede, what does he have left in him? It
d he's if he is literally wincing in pain, crying,
for God's sake, how is that guy in that environment,
no matter how tough you want to be, how does
he give you any chance to come back in a
game that is probably hopeless because of your offensive line situation,
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whether you have Joe Montana or Frank Target in his
prime at quarterback under those conditions.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Freddie Freeman led off the bottom of the eighteenth inning
with a so low home run. It was the first
run scored in over ten innings in Game three of
the World Series. Just reading the box score here, the
box scor has got some great numbers. Dodgers led to
zero Toronto scores four in the top of the fourth
to take a four to two lead. The Dodgers tied
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up in the bottom of the fifth. Each team scores
a run in the seventh, so they're tied at five
and then they go ten score US innings. Toronto used
nine pitchers, the Dodgers used ten. Shohe Atani four for four,
couple of dongs, three runs, batted in, was walked five times,
reach base nine times, all nine times that he was
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out there.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
What else do I want to get to from this game?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
How about Freddy Freeman just two for seven with a
couple of walks, but one of them will actually two
of them being big home runs. Last one, of course,
Mookie bets one for eight. You feel like Toronto's like, yeah,
we'll live with MOOKI bets one for eight. But with
the Dodgers, they just keep coming and coming and coming.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
To put it in.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Perspective for Luigi, we'll put the time. It was over
six hours and it ended at two fifty palm beach time.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Louis two fifty palm beach time.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
The sun when I already looked at that, Yeah, he
would have been about to come up eleven fifty Pacific,
two fifty am palm beach time. And now it's game
four tonight you get to go take a nap, maybe
have a quick meal, and come back and play game
four tonight with a Tani on the mound. Pretty compelling
stuff at Chavez Ravine last night.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
How much time, Louis you've been to I assume you've
been the game at Dodger games at Chevez Ravine.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You've never been to a game there. That's interesting. I
don't have figured out on one of the.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Show there, you know, because Dodgers are my team in
the in the National League.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
But I have never gone to a game they It is.
I've been there obviously in years and years and years
and years, but it is it's just a it's it's
a it's a great ballpark and a great backdrop. Obviously
you get the palm trees in the background. You got.
It's just it's a wonderful scene. And of course they've
got everything and we've got nothing. Payroll of half a billion,
I think whatever, and they're still making money. We're talking
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about Tani alone. They're making this incredible because of the
international ratifications of what he represents so well.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
The Toronto manager made one mistake. You should have walked
with Tony four more more.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
That's it you're exactly probably time great point.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I think you might as well just call it you
rule one pitcher, or just say you can go to first.
Don't wait to stop.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Being so prideful, ye right, don't think you oh, we
got to compete in order to compete, No, not against him.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
If you want to be like Daniel, listen to the
game on the radio. You can listen ESPN Radio on
the iHeart app, the very free and very easy to
use iHeartRadio app. You can make ESPN Radio preset right
next to the fan, right next to the Timberwolve channel,
whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Speed of the Wolves.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
They fall to five hundred last night with a one
twenty seven to one fourteen loss at home to the
Denver Nuggets. We know Ant did not play. He's not
going to play tomorrow. He's not going to play for
a week or two. Nikola Jokic did play. He had
a triple double. Jamal Murray did play, scored twenty three
of his forty three points in the third quarter. When
the Nuggets wrestled control away from the Wolves did They
led by eight at the half. Jaden McDaniels scored twenty
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five points to lead Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Still got a ripped by Finchy after the game, not
playing good enough defense. Neither's Rudy.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Apparently Rudy was great opening night, by the way, had
like fifty rebounds.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Here's what I want to know, and I know their
analytics exist for this. If he's not playing as well
as we'd like or the head coach like defensively, I
wonder what our analytics stats are, you know, the the
sophisticated stats on our defensive efficiency when he's on the court,
Rudy versus our defensive efficiency you know, off the court.
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Because he's not as good, yes as you want him
to be, the numbers have tended to be absurdly worse
when he's not out there.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Second, Dane Moore Drop of the night. He put a
video out about that, I think this morning or yesterday. Yeah,
just because it's always right. It's almost like ten points
per possession less or you know, ten points per one hundred,
which doesn't mean.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
He can't play better. I'm not here to say that
Vinci's wrong, but it's just interesting because I I just
right now, I don't know that I put him at
the top of the list.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I don't who knows, So it's another national TV game
eight thirty tomorrow. The Lakers are in town. Lebron is out,
Luca is out, and Anthony Edwards is out. So get
ready for the Austin Reeves Show and the Julius Randall
Show tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
At Target Center.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You can hear that game.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I'm the fan. Go ahead, Louie, before Goinny for the
Kivin Foldus calls you when you're seeing beside the app.
Not just the timberl games, they're Wild games.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
They're on KF are one hundred percent absolutely, yeah, yeah,
you don't even need a different channel, you just go exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
They're usually on kfan. Yeah, the Wolves aren't always, So
that's why the Wolves have their own channel Wild.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
When they're on, they're on. They don't have to wait
for pressing it. They get pressingent. We don't even have
to tell them that.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Okay, I'll tell Kevin you're okay.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, Well he won't believe it. No, he doesn't care.
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Speaker 2 (13:40):
An idea on how to save the Minnesota wild from themselves.
My guess is are in studio. Guest will laugh at it.
He'll say it's not practical. I'm not even sure you
would disagree with it, but you say, at this point
it might be impractical. I'm going to run it by Luigi.
We're going to talk about his own impressions regarding the club.
We'll get into a couple of interesting pieces from Russo
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Radio about some of our defensive issues from a physicality standpoint,
and who knows what else questions for Louis observations six
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Speaker 3 (14:28):
We sneaks around the world from the.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Ride China in the world and whoever this commentator is
is like to chill this dude on the planet like
he's borderline.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
What do you need to sleep? I don't know who
this guy is.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But okay, that was a callback from last week. I
think we got to play it every We might have
to make it part of the tradition.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I need to play before the music. I need to
like that needs to be to walk up to the music.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I might be right. The chillis dude on the planet
helps bring Louis to us each and every week, and
a lot of good texts and questions have indeed come in.
In fact, here's one, what do you think of this, Louis?
Why would the Wild invite Gabrick back for tonight's festivities?
He left us didn't like it here? Will he get booed?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Thanks, guys, I don't think he'd get booed any you know,
this is their celebration. Yeah, yeah, you can't hold just
like that. And he was a very popular player, will
and he was here, yeah, and and sometimes Gabrick's not
the only guy in this marketplace that's at for a trade. Man,
Kevin came back here, I'm sure they'd welcome him back
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at the Target Center and rightfully, So it's uh, it's something.
He's a tremendous player, probably next to Caprizo, the best
player in the world's ever had, So they should do it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's true, probably right about that. So that's very philosophical
of you, very humanitarians. So you're rising above any you know, resentment,
leny lingering resentment that the average fan might have for
saying you didn't want us anymore. Gavick didn't want us anymore.
That's what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
There's been a lot of athletes have gone too here
that welcome back. I mean, we've had coaches that have
left in gunback.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
That's also true. It's a very good point, So Wild Insider,
I don't know if you've read it. It's Russo and
Joe Smith. Here's your headline. Lack of physicality is costing
the defense. We have to be harder. Through Sunday, the
Wild defense ranked twenty fourth in the NHL with forty
eight hits in ten games, forty nine behind the league
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leading biggest Golden Knights. There's a lot of ground to
cover there. You can question the validity of some of
the stats when it comes down what do you define
a hit? Whether you know some of that might be misleading.
But regarding the suppose is it lack of physicality? Do
you agree with that? Do you think that is a
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troubling trend at least early in the season, or what
do you think?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Well, first of all, you hit the nail right in
the head. Because I spent about ten minutes discussing hits
with Mike Kelly, the analytical guy for the Wild from
FanDuel on on the last road trip that I was
broadcasting the games because I go to games and I
get the stats after and I see so and so
had one hit or no hits or five hits, and
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I'm saying, I didn't see that guy hit a guy
and he's got five hits. I saw this guy hit somebody.
He's got one and he should add four. So each place,
it's how they determine hits. But having said that, Russ
and Smith are right. They're definitely not physical enough on
the blue line. And some of that is understandable because
you can expect Vulliam, for instance, in Spurgeon not to
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be big body checkers. But overall, even if you're not,
everybody has to take the body when they have vocasion
to do so. And it's not just the physicality part
of it. It's what it brings to the game. It
eliminates when you use your body. When you hit someone,
many times, you eliminate him from the play or getting
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back in the play. That's the important part that you
don't see. It's not just that, oh, my team's hitting,
my team's doing that. You're hitting effectively means you are
eliminating the guy or delaying the guy from getting back
in the play, having to puck turn overnight. And well,
I had lunch with Russo today and I have to
tell you he was He told me about those stats
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and I said, not surprising. It's just a little surprising.
I think maybe they were a little light on how
they determine the hits, but they definitely aren't a physical defense.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Quote. Here's a quote from Garren in this piece. I
want to get your reaction to because part of what
Russo and Smith acknowledges you can't you know, you can't
expect players to suddenly become pronger Stevens Hatcher, et cetera.
And the quote from Garren, you can't try to turn
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somebody into that, Like, if they don't have that in them,
it's not going to be natural. What you want them
to do is to be highly competitive and use the
size to their advantage. We don't need David to kill guys.
If that's in your nature, then okay. But if it's not,
if you try to change guys, you're always going to
be disappointed. So there's something to that too. You can't
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be what you're not right. I mean that's that's but
then maybe that gets back to well, the personnel decisions
you make in terms of are we paying enough attention
to those those issues?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well, if Ruso County near I think this is how
you would answered, and I think that he'd be answering
it correctly. You're not asking someone to kill anybody. You're
asking them to play the part of the game that
they play, and checking is part of the game.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Like I used to say, the player, you don't have
to go there and fight, but you have to go
out there and hit. There's a difference between you have
to fight or you have to hit. Hit means checking.
Checking is part of the game. And by the way,
checking is the easiest part of the game to learn.
When you that in passing, you can take one or
the other as being the easiest. A lot of these
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other things are difficult to do because you're playing on skates,
but checking, just making contact should be the easiest thing
to do. You've got the buck and I'm there, I'm
going to hit you one way.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Or the other.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You can learn how to hit better, you can learn
how to hit harder, but it doesn't take anything to
learn to just make contact.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
All right, what are you seeing right now? What right
now regarding the while what concerns you the most? Is
it that or is it something else?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Well, what concerns me right now is they need more
more balanced production than they're getting. And I'm never going
to tell somebody how to run the club. Everybody runs
it a different way. What you're doing, that's you, I'm
thinking right now, And now what I would try and
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do personally is just change things up, you know, get
a different thought process in the locker room, uvenments. That's
making a deal. If you can make a deal. It's
harder to make deals yet you never know. The one
thing that I used to enjoy doing when I was
general managers, I was on the phone every day just
either trying to make a deal or trying to kill
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somebody else's deal that I found out they were trying
to make because the effects where were there to be
in the conversation. But I would look around the league
right now if there is somebody that we could add
that could change the complexion of the team just a
little bit. You make coaching change, and that's just a
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little bit of a change. Right at the beginning that's
something that for some reason or other gets rewarded and
wins right off the bat. And you just want to
get the engine going against like putting gas in the engine,
and how can you start it? And maybe there might
be someone I had lunch as I said with Russo
today and I says, you know your place. Yeah, an
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twenty three enjoyed the new meatball sandwich was fantastic. And
I said to my said, uh, you know, I look
around and see if there's anybody in the league that's
having trouble themselves and maybe just try and change things up.
Sometimes it's just a change of scenery for two players
and work on me. He said, well, Shovetnika from Carolina
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hasn't got at a point in eight games. I just
he'd he'd be my number one target because that guy's
had the history of plane. He is a power forward,
like the way he gets involved right. And he said
he's got no trade cause I said I had no
trade EXA. They'll say you're going to be playing with CAPRISO. Okay,
I'm going you know, so, yes, you got that to use.
And I said, I don't know what they'd want, Maybe
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be too much what they want wild want, but you
didn't imagine, imagine if there was a deal, it'd be made.
They're just changing the face, changing that all of a sudden,
a different are era comes in in the locker room,
you get just a different vibe and who knows. I'm
just saying hopefully something had just changed up, because you do.
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You do have to change no matter what anybody's talking
to you about. Everybody says the right things, but you
have to change the mindset that you know might be
there but they're not.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So you don't think it's too early to do that.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Oh no, I think early is the best. You know,
before you get any other gets pretty quick, Yeah, because
every game is build. Everybody can say it's early in
the season, but the points count the same as at
the end of the season. You can't get them back.
And if you get yourself in the hole. Sure people
have dug out of a hole and Big OL's Louis
won the coup when they were lasting about in January.
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But I don't want to be the guy trying to
do it at the second time, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
What was the age or what is the age of
the oldest really successful national hockey league coach. Oh, Scott
boom and so how old was he?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
He was in his sixties when when he won a cup?
I'm sure that's the oldest. Yeah, he might have even
been seventy. Scott, he's my age. I'm alway's older than
I think you want.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
You want my idea on how to fix the while? Yeah,
get Scotty, No, get Jack. Oh yeah he's only eighty.
He was a youngish eighty. Why not bring Jacques back?
He's the He's the only coach that made it work here.
Louis honest about it.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
But you're a big Lamara guy or were I am?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I love him? First of all, he's never going to
go back coaching. And what if you're going to refuse,
you can't. He's got everything he wants in life.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Frump Florida.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Hey, you know right now, I think you got to
give Hindes a chance with these to get this.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It wasn't even bad as a rip on Hindes. I
just I still meant when he came back, was it
last week or the week before? For the big reun?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
He's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I still miss the guy. I loved that guy. I
didn't really get to know him all that well, but
I always I just thought he understood the game. He
was sharp, he and I know people thought that style
was boring and it was bad for the league. All
I know is they won with him. They won with him,
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and they've never since won the way they did under
him early in the in the in the team's history.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Well, people here didn't think it was boring. And you
never get tired of winning. He never get tired of winning.
You never get out of a game with him. That's
that's a good part. And definitely you don't need a
lot of scoring.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Ut fundamentally sounds yeah, he's but he's very voice. His
voice is just the best, isn't it. The little mare voice?
Of course, there's just nothing like it.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
And you got the great little smirk, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
No, he's so is he? Is he even advising anybody?
At this point?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
He just well, no, because Lamerolla got fired.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Okay, that's right, And he was advising.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
He was advising Loop from his rocking chair in Anamory
island watching on TV. That's what he basically what he
said to me. And they were very close and he
enjoyed it. But Jock, Jock is the type of guy.
When he says enough enough, he means enough enough. I've
had enough and that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
He just he's very exactly right.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
He has that the power of his mind is make
a decision, live with it, and I'm very happy with
the contender. There's no second guessing. I don't know if
I've ever talked to Jock or watched Jock or seen
Jock when he's second guests something. He just that he's done.
He's a firm believer in it, right, wrong or indifferent.
I'm living well.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You you know him a lot better than I do,
so I don't remember the term. My recollection isn't that
he screamed at everybody. But he was firm. I mean,
there was never any question who was in charge. It
seemed like he had the ability to just be hard
guy if he needed to be, but not necessarily a
guy who's ranting all the time. You know, those are
the best kind of discipline coaches.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I think, well he coached like Snmore's famous line, did
I love the best you can play like that? Just
not here perfect, You'll be going somewhere else, pretty much
said Jock was. That's how he was. He was very
very decisive, and everybody knew as you just said, Oh,
how he felt what he expected? And is he happy
or not?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Lamara's side, Can the trap work with our team?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
You know, let's put it this way. Defense, good defense
works with all teams. But at the same time, good
defense always has somebody that, for some reason or other
breaks it down some way to get opportunities. That's what
hockey is all about.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's true. That's a great way to put it. In fact,
Paul writes, Louis's ideas are brilliant. Louis should be a
consultant for the while. Wasn't Garren Hier as a consultant.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
He's got enough consultant. They have enough. They got such
a large staff that all the people they need.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Even Leopold has financial restrictions. They can't afford loose. That's good,
but I didn't even think of that. Yeah, you'd be
too demanded.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Uh. Is the stats still true? The Caprice office not
scored an even handed, a full strength goal. And does
that what with the goalie? Oh yeah, okay, right, that's true.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But he's still he set up a lot even string goals.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
He did, he did, he has that's one.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Dimensional play and they never see Conor McDavid had an
He hadn't even had a goal, but he had a
number of assists. What is that happens to everybody?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
So what our penalty kill is awful? Again, I think
our power plays started great and it's kind of receded. Uh,
but I think our penalty kill is one of the worst. Again,
So in your history, in your experience in hockey, what
is the key to establishing a legitimate penalty kill.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Well, there's a few things. One one, you don't want
to give a good clear shots from the best areas
still in the area, So you want to keep the
puck on the perimeter. You want you want to limit
the passes to go through the box area. And your
goaltender has got to be able to make stops and
you have to as best you can, let them see
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the puck, clean the front of the net and take
care of rebounds. There's a lot of things you have
to do. But the good, the good teams do it.
They do it well and and uh, I still think
you know what, I think they we're all going to
make an improvement. We haven't seen it yet, but they
have Boldie for instance, out they're killing penalty's ROSSI, We're
going to see some short ended goals. I really believe that,
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because at least when they get the puck, you feel
good about their chances if they want to take an
opportunity a get the shot on net and shots produced goals. Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
We we talked a little gophers last week, then we
got swept and we over the weekend. I think we're
now two five and one. You mentioned last week we
lost a lot of people, I think long view, but
the same thing. I mean, do you worry about it's
getting late kind of early kind of late or late
kind of early, whatever the cliche is, Are you starting
to worry?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, I'm not worried because I never expected, you know,
them to be at the top of the heap this year.
I think that I'm more interested in seeing how they
grow and having the opportunity to become a much better team.
They they have skill in the team. They the one
thing that you can teach young people. As I said,
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you can't teach them to score, but you can teach
them to defend. And so when you talked about Lamaire,
even though he didn't have scoring, he had I was
a team that defended well. So I think that. You know,
you have to look at the goal for hockey team
as how are they improving in their defensive play to
limit the opportunities to limit the goals against because they
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do have people upfront that have history of scoring, so
should continue to have opportunities score and score goals. Yeah,
and e wasn't any sports. You got to start the
defense first, and you got to start your own zone first.
If you're not taking care of that, if you're giving
up too many good opportunities, you can't You can't win. Eventually,
you're gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
No question about it. Guardsie, do we still have was
there one of the famous lamaire not our Jacques, one
of the famous lamaire soundbites we had was about worry
about we wait, we wake up, we worry? Do you
remember that one? Do we still have that one anywhere
at any of our button bars? You know the one
I'm talking about? Yes, it was really a good one.
It wasn't on the button bar. If you look to
your right, you will see it as the liner that
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we will be playing into the next break.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Oh okay, so it does exist. It exists, and people
will hear it about five minutes from now.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Let me ask you something also that is not necessarily
related to hockey. Luigi. You know Glenn Mason joins every week.
In fact, he'll be in here tomorrow. Is he back
or is he going back to Fargo. I can't remember
what Nicky's here. I think he might be here. So
last week I mentioned to Mace, I say, you know,
one of the great things Louis did with us over
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the years is we had the Legends with Louis series
where occasionally he would help us get a big name
guy like from hockey, like Scottie Bowman, Phil Esposito, you go,
don Tony Especia, drive the whole bit, Kenny and Kenny
Dryden exactly, it the late great Kenny Dryden. And I said,
you know what, you should do the same with us,
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like get Barry Alvarez, will have you on with Barry Alvarez,
Legends of college coaching. You know what May said, Why
should I do that for you guys? Why should I
do your job for you? My job guards he should
do That's that's he's got three dogs that are looking
for a pen.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Maybe his girlfriend could hold those dogs. You get a
new claim.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
That's the answer. I just was like, it was. I said,
if you wanted to find the difference between Luigi and Mason,
that's it in a nutshit is friends, great idea, Let
me do that. Let's well all you know, I'll use
my standing. Yeah, we don't have that kind of standing.
We acknowledge that. And I thought Mace would feel honored, like, hey,
you know, it's okay, I'm gonna do that. And he he,
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He couldn't have been more sarcastic about the whole big
you know, you know why?
Speaker 4 (33:18):
And I did you try to make an overture? And
I've got some good inrows. We're working on it. We're
working through some contractual things I see, which I think
are a little silly, but we're working through those things.
The thing is, Louis likes to hear. First of all,
Louis likes talking to his friends. Right, we did it.
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It been part because he had questions, he wanted stories
out there. Louis enjoyed it, I think as much as
we did. I don't want to speak for you, lou
but he seemed to. And Mace doesn't want to spend
his hour talking about other people. That's isn't that the
big the distinction?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
That's also the box. Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
If we were to give him a second or maybe
he should share it, but his hour, he wants to
be about himself.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Here's the question, because there's a part of me. It says,
if you find a way to land, let's say Barry
Alvarez the next couple of weeks, that that whenever that
you get them, we tell Mace, we don't need you
this week. We got somebody else with Barry Alvarez.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
And we talked to Bill from Jack's Cafe. He thinks
it's great. Terry Limo loves it, so we're good, and
then that would change his tune. Yeah, at that point
J J. Mccarteam, we'll put him on the bench. That's it, Well,
quiet bench him possibility that might be the way we
have to go. Or we'll let Louis come in and
talk to him.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well, that's that's another way to that's no doubt. Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
The branch on Brian Kafan text line is six four
six eight six.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
This is from Larry Mondelo. Guy Loui's advice for the
wild sounds very familiar because it seems like basically what
he's saying is change your face, be happy, and joy.
It's the famous Ricky Rubio SoundBite that we that we play.
But I think part of what you're saying is you
have to help them change their face. Oh yeah, it's
not to go in and say change your face is
probably not going to be enough. You've got to give
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them the impetus. Correct.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, you've got to be the leader. There's if you're
going to conquer anything, you have to have somebody in charge. Right,
But the opportunities there everybody, everybody wants to win and
they want help. They should want help to get out
of it. At a time when you're in a situation
where you got some real problems. I can't understand why
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there would be anybody wouldn't want some advice about to
get it better or do it better, or change something.
And many times it might be just changing a little
thing here or there. For many times it might be
completely changing the style of play with or playing. But
it's it's almost like a lifeline when you when you're
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talking to people that need help and you come up
with an idea different idea all of a sudden, I
can tell you this. We we were playing Toronto in
the playoffs and that's when Murray Oliver's coach, and he
came down and he says to me, Louis got to
get in the bench. We haven't beaten Toronto on your
long You've got to come down and take over the coach.
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And I hate coaching, you know, I don't mind coaching
a game with repetition. But I went to practice and
and I'll never forget because they said, look, every time
I see Toronto, this is the way they play an
offensive zone. This is how they check you. So we're
going to do this little thing differently. And we set
a little tweak, set up a play, and this is
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this is how we're going to come out, and this
is going to give us a break. You know, we
might even get a breakway well, when you know, third
shift of the game, we pulled it off. We had
a break, We went down, scored, and Ronnie Freest, who
was standing right beside me, stood up and yelled and
he turned around me and he said, it worked. It worked,
you know, so all of a sudden, yeah, and it's yeah.
(36:56):
It just then was they can change and eyes a
whole bit. Yeah, you beat him three straight. It was
just terrific.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Sometimes it does sometimes just a little thing. It's creativity. Yeah,
you got to come up with and you make people
believe right, Yes.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I'm saying that's what I'm seeing. If there's just something yep,
it works, that people can hang their head on the
delta that they are feeling the way they're playing, or
something might change. That's all I'm seeing is find something
that just change the attitude or change the thought process
that the guys are going through.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
One more break and then one more segment with Luigi.
Any questions that they said, I'll get to try to
get to as many of them as I can. Whatever
that level of hockey is you want to talk about
or something else. Six four six eight six back with
more Louis.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
You're back with you.
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Speaker 2 (38:23):
Good text coming in out of Grand Forks. This is
from Kurt and Kurt is curious Luigi to get your
view regarding the purported NBA gambling scandal. You know, it's
a big federal investigation. You got a fairly big name
player and then a Hall of Fame coach implicated. Now
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the Hall of Fame coach, it seems to be more
about this his part in this poker deal, although there's
also some indication that he may have been even though
he's unindicted for this, given some information about sitting some
of his players. So from Afar, what what are your
impressions of this? Is it? Is it the tip of
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the iceberg? Do you worry that we're headed in an
ever more dangerous direction regarding this given the degree to
which sports leagues and you know, betting services have kind
of gotten bed together. What do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Well, first of all, I'm extremely disappointed. I can't believe
that people making that kind of money that we're indicted
would even think about doing something that's going to enhance
them by extra money. They got enough. I don't I
don't see the reasoning for it. And right away somebody
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came to me. I hear that there's an investigator, investigation
coming to the hockey, I says, I haven't heard that yet.
There was some guy. I said, look, let me tell
you one thing. If it's a guy, he's got to
be a goaltender, because if you don't, if you don't,
if you don't fix the goaltender, it doesn't matter who
you're pulling out of the line of I've been in
games where we've got out forty five to fifteen, won
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the game, And if you don't take the goaltender out,
that's the only guys you can investigate because the other guys,
you know, sure it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
So I.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Don't think it's going to be coming more and more.
The only place I always worried about was in college
because college players don't get weren't getting money, and they
could get money. A big guy could he you know,
they could affect the game by you know, going stone cold.
And if he's averaging twenty two points a game and
I was getting two, it's going to severely affected. Plus
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throwing the ball away, et cetera, and all that. But
I can't. I can't think that there are that many
stupid players in the world and that they they have
a need to do this.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Is there is it. I don't know if this is
conceivable because it's such a big part of so many
of these gambling outlets, but the there's been a lot
of talk about at the very least, you have to
try to courage or if possible, eliminate the prop bet, because,
as you know, the prop bet in basketball is just
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It could be as simple as he's gonna miss his
first shot or the number of minutes he's gonna play.
It doesn't have to be fixing the game. And that
that's where this stuff is almost impossible to police. Now
in some states they've outlawed prop bets involving college players.
They've not made the step for pro I don't know
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if it's conceivable. If all you're doing is going to
is you're going to drive all the prop bets underground
to illegal betting. I'm not sure, but to me, that's
the biggest rub right now in the NBA. It's load management,
that's one of it's sitting players tanking, but the other
part of it is just the prop bet, which can
be one play. It came up in baseball too, you know,
you betting on a pitcher's second pitch in the third
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inning of his starting performance, that sort of thing. So
would you like to see that, if it's practical, the
prop bet be eliminated, or have pro of team pro
sports try to band together to say we got to
get this route this out as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Well, that's where I agree with you, because that's that's
the betting that you can't fix a player or something.
You take Fox and every Sunday when they got to yeah,
you know, Sequon Barkley's going to get over for six yards,
this guy's going to catch and go for one hundred
and twenty yards to passing those kind of bets that
should be out lawed. That that is gambling running the telecast.
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There is no need for that at all.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
And I don't even think it's that interesting.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I don't think it's that interesting. But what bothers me
as the effects that could have on people. First of all,
you always worry about can people afford to even bet.
You go to a casino and you see a lot
of guys sitting there, and they sit there for hours,
and you wonder, how can you make it that's you
feel bad about it if they don't have the willpower
to walk away or limits them absolute loss every every
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time they go to casino. Well, it what worries me
on those prop bets. It starts developing the gambling syndrome.
And now you start all of a sudden, you know
you win, you win. I once you're in it all
to say, well next week, now you might be betting
five hundred because you won three hundred, and now you
start getting in I lost five hundred. I got to
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get it back. And I tell somebody just to go
to Vegas. Look at those pretty buildings, And I said,
you think they they're building those because people are winning,
they said. And and I told one of my grand said, well,
I believe when I was out there, want some money,
I said, you didn't win it. They just loaned it
to you. He's been loaned to you, and you're going
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to give it back more unless you realize you know, okay,
you're not getting up winning.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
That's good advice. Uh. This is from Izzy, our old
friend Izzy in Vegas. Many of us consider al Sea
Court the most hated player in his in the in
the history of Minnesota sports. Does Louis have any good
Sea Court stories?
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah, I might have told it years ago when when
I was going to sign Ciciarelli. I went out there
and I talked to the newspaper man. His name was
John Harrington for the London Press there in London, Ontario,
and I said, tell me about the Cicerelli kid. I said,
I'm really impressed how he scores goals. I says, and
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then way he compezzes. He liked that all the time.
And he says, Louis said, we had a situation earlier
this year where he scored a goal and we put
the picture in the paper of him scoring, and then
the picture was the goaltender. He's being the goaltender, but
behind him was El Seaguard, he said, Sea Court and
he have had this thing going all year long. Seagart
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was playing for Hamilton and Cicerelli is playing for London,
and he says he came down and he came to
the paper the next day and he says, John, can
you give me a glossy picture of that? I need
by ten? So I ran one off for him. He
took the pen and he says, hey, dummy, isn't this
your man, you're supposed to be checking. Put an envelope
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and send it to sea Cord. Oh, so I started
way back there. Pretty And then when we had when
we played in Chicago. The night before we were going
to the to Washington play the All Star Game, and
the All Star players we're going to visit the White House.
The next day, we're sitting on the bus and it
was in Washington. The team is going over to practice,
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and the night before, Dino had gone out in the
third period and he got hit in the ankle, was
a shot and he was out and sitting in the
first first row with sonomore and Seacord gets on the
bus and he said, hey, do you know how's the ankle?
Is you a hole? He says, you don't care, what
do you care? Don't give me that bull. So there
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was never any love. Yeah, and Dino even off the ice.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Oh, that's pretty good. So it kind of developed over
the years. That's pretty good. All right, you're on your
way to Florida first, Yeah, and then and.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Then the Big Island then knowing uh to uh Oaho
Big Islands.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Call, Oh wow, okay, I got you that Island, I
got you. Yeah, And and because somebody had texted much earlier.
They want to know what your health secret is. And
timing's good, right because you just had another another like
unprecedented physical admail. Correct.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah, my doctor told me that.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
So give us Give us the quote from your doctor
what he used to say and what he how he
amended it.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Well, the last four years he had told me I
was going to lift to be one hundred and yesterday
Walt Wilson, who have had for over twenty five years
or so, and he said to my wife, look at this,
and he turned the screen around. He said, look it,
I'm going to show you last thirteen years. Nothing changes,
nothing moves as this guy's going to live forever. So
well passed, I said, Walt. He says, just keep doing
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what you're doing. He says, drinking a lot of wine.
He's just keep drinking.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Don't change anything.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
He don't change anything. He's he's such a remarkable doctor.
I mean, he's he's a very good friend of Jill Mawer's,
by the way, and he's he's a person. Know, he's
more than a doctor. He's a very close friend. And
then it's great when you get that kind of relationship
with doctors because they're going to talk to you as
all of them would, honestly, but more in a family
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way that you're gonna you know, they really care.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely for sure.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
I'm just thinking, if you really live to be forever,
you're gonna have to add more wings to the cabin.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, you're gonna need more. That's and you could have.
I'm lamenting.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
I'm actually mad because you could have been the chillest
guy in the planet for seventy five years on the
state hockey tournament instead of just that's it. See, yeah,
might have to drive in the Stom's true. They would
have figured it out. I'm sure that the river road
would be fixed one of those years. So next week
from the road with us.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Right right, from all being Florida.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Next Florida, next week, right, Well what chat then? Great
stuff is always thanks man.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, thanks, nice to be with you guys.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Always good to be with you. And we'll see someone.
That's it. That's about it. Let's make this the top
of the hour pause. Let's talk a little bit about
the the breaking news regarding the Target Corporation. Some more
details coming forward today. We'll get into some of that,
and who knows what else when we come final segment
(48:09):
of the show.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
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Speaker 2 (48:16):
It's the Bumper to Bumper show wrap. I forgot it.
Turns out we aren't going till six thirty tonight. We've
got Vikings programming to get in and so we'll be
out what about ten minutes from now something like that,
six minutes from mark Man? All right, Well, then I
probably waited too long to get to could you hit
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find the calendar calamity SoundBite? Because I did tease it earlier.
I want to at least touch upon it.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
East The Minnesota Sports Calendar of.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Calamity one of the most underrated calamitous moments in Golden
Golf for football history. Maybe underrated in part because it
goes back all the way to nineteen eighty nine. Oh yeah,
was when we blew a thirty one point lead against
the Ohio State Buckeyes. This was at the Metrodome. I
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was at this game. I chronicled this game. I remember
it well. We end up losing forty one to thirty
seven in the final minute of the game. Gutikinst I believe.
I think Goody was the coach at that point, and
among the shocks of that game, Ohio State turned the
ball over in that game. The Buckeyes did six times,
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not nine times, but six. That's a lot, and they
ended up coming from behind to win it. The Gophers
were up thirty one to eighteen heading into the fourth,
led by eleven with five minutes left, and then the
Buckeyes scored twenty three points in the fourth quarter to
take the lead with fifty one seconds left. That's not
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to be confused with well another one of those calamitous stunners.
It was the Zach Kustak game against Northwestern in two
thousand thousand. On this time, remember, we blew a twenty
one point lead in that one and lost to Northwestern
at the buzzer on a hail Mary forty one to
thirty five. I just walked back into my house.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
For like the final two years, I was listening to
it Ray Christenton on the radio.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
It was. It was And I've told the story before.
I've tried to get Mace going. Before that, the Coustock
family stopped one summer in Dinkytown to talk to Glenn Mason.
He was looking for a place to land left handed quarterback,
and Mace was not interested. Now Mace has said since
he didn't even remember the story that way. Bottom line
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is Kustock ended up going to Northwestern and worked out
pretty well. Worked out pretty well for him, at least
on that occasion. And then another underrated one Vikings related
goes back all the way to nineteen hundred and eighty
four in Archie Manning's first start. Archie Mannings first start
as a Vikings quarterback, he was sacked eleven times by
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the Chicago Bears, and of course the eighty five Bears
a year later, eighty four, they are already good.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Eighty five. They were incredibly good defensively. But the doctor
said he could do no further damage to his shoulder.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
That's exactly it was saying. He was fine. Eleven sacks,
that's a lot. Double when you get to double digit sacks, yeah,
one for every player on the defense. That's pretty remarkable.
The target story is not good. More than eight hundred
Tird employees laid off today and start to Mune has
a story, and maybe we try to delve into this
(51:40):
a little more deeply tomorrow. I would almost and I'd
like to hear from folks who might have been affected
by this. The announcement was that they would restructure and
eliminate eighteen hundred positions, with about one thousand losing their jobs.
And one of the things they explore in the start
to Mune is this notion that the it's it's an
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example of the way the corporate environment works these days,
which basically is layoffs have become more impersonal because in
part the rise of remote and hybrid work, where employees
may meet colleagues only a few times a year. Anyway,
sometimes there's no warning at all. Apparently the the online
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system they had was not particularly effective either. Some people
could hear I guess on the call, some could not.
More detail on that tomorrow, but obviously devastating news for
a lot of people who are without a job at
this point. And it's targeted, it's local, and we'll try
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to get maybe into that in a little more a
little deeper on tomorrow's program, which also is Kessler Day
amazing as well, and Barry Alvarez maybe who's to say,
maybe the target thing.
Speaker 4 (52:59):
I know, we'll talk more about it. I just couldn't
stop thinking about it this weekend because the whole news
was they tell you we're doing layoffs, right, I know
there's no good way to do it. Our company, lord knows,
we've been through a million of them right from the
time that we've been here. There's no good way to
do any of these things, but to say, by the way, tuesday, everybody,
orby sending out layoff notices, so enjoy the weekend and
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we'll let you know what happens Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Like, it's just really tough and worse they then were
they get the email at eight telling him we got
a nine a m. Audio call with human resources, and
according to several outlets, the auto did not even work
for about half of the employees. So that in itself
is inexcusable, and it lends credence to well, it's just
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it's more, it's colder and more corporate than ever. If
it's the old deal of you got to do what
you got to do, if your target you got, at
least one would think come up with a better approach
to people are not going to be probably satisfied with
what they hear, but at least have the courtesy to
give them a chance to hear it, for God's sake.
And apparently a number of individuals. We're not even able
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to follow through and get proper audio quality on the
audio call. Appreciate the call today, the text today as well.
Seyffert in studio at three point thirty, we thank him,
and a great hour as always with Louis Luigi as
we like to affectionately call in between five and six o'clock.
Enjoy the rest of the evening. Vikings Country is that
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next no Viking's Uncensored nik Country. The hockey even better.
We'll talk to you tomorrow beginning a three.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
Thank you for the memories, Thank you for the great time.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
We love you Dad, Well go twins.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Thank you for the airtime, and
Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'll talk to you soon.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
All right, top of the five o'clock hour, Top five
at five. Luigi is back. It's shocking to find out
he's in the house. He's in town on a day
where we've been largely in the forties and it's been
very rainy. But my assumption is you'll be out of
here pretty soon Saturday morning. Saturday morning to take you physically.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, I've got to go to Florida Sarity for a
week and then I go away from there.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Which island of this time?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The Big Island? I have a conference.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh yeah, the Big Island. That's where you you've been there?
Is that always where your conferences? Or is this a
different kind? No, this is a different one, of course.
Well it's more than one conference. I should have known
by now, Guardie, what do you think here? What do
you want to start?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Well, I'm wondering did we ever figure out have we
ever gotten to the bottom of why the four seasons
than Mali doesn't have an ATM in the lobby because
I know that really bugged you a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Has that gotten rectified? Yeah? Ready to make always another
trip out?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
How can you not have an ATMA? Does I know
everything goes cash free?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Let's start with the Vikings because they are the a topic,
the quarterback situation, the Carson Wentz surgery, which we learned
about yesterday. The first time KOC spoke publicly about it
was today on the Paul Allen Projects, part of the
Vikings X's and O's kind of simulcast.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
He joins PA during the week.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
If you miss it, you get another shot on Wednesday
nights right here at six thirty, all across the Vikings
Audio network. But one of the things they talked about
in this two and a half minute clip was everyone
on the same page on Thursday night and even going
back to the Cleveland game or the games following once
Carson Wentz got injured. Was everyone the head coach, the quarterback,
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the medical team on the same page with the plan.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Yeah. And I think it's very, very important that the
dialogue with myself and the player always takes place after
the dialogue with the player and the medical staff, and
then the medical staff making sure that you know, uh one,
Carson is capable of continuing. The circumstances really had not
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changed from the time he sustained the injury kind of
late in the first half against the Cleveland Browns. It
was really just, you know, the ability to just tolerate
when certain types of hits or falls on that shoulder happened,
the pain tolerance, and and that's where Carson had made
the the determination that he wanted to, you know, fight
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and and really play as long as he possibly could.
And there were some times there in the second half
where you know, as a head coach, you're you're you're
looking for confirmation from Carson and the medical staff that
you know, uh where.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
He's he's still good to go.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
And you get that, and ultimately you want to do
what's best for the player and ultimately give him an
opportunity to kind of as long as medically you're in
the clear, you want to make sure you give that
player the runway, especially with the kind of toughness and
determination that Carson had to kind of finish the job.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And you're right, we don't ever.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Our game is one where you're always a player two
away from either getting back in the game, even off
of you know, Josh Mittel's interception and we score that touchdown,
you're really thinking one stop and then you get one more.
That's how we think, that's how we compete. That's how
we've been able to come back and win a lot
of one score games by having that mentality. As games
go and as games kind of come towards the finish line,
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you find a way to win a football game. And
if you're ever in this business and thinking that you
are not playing like that, you're probably not not.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
In the right business.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
And that goes for coaches and players, and that just
speaks to who Carson is and but not no Pa,
And there was never a point in time where medically
we were going against the grain of what was in
Carson's best interest and ultimately what Carson ultimately wanted to
kind of see through until he ultimately made the decision
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that he wanted to.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Get it fixed.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Which have so much respect for not only the commitment
to play as he as he showed and many of
the things he did playing on the field for our team,
but also that when Carson said it was time and
and he wanted to get that thing fixed, you know,
we wanted to make.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Sure that we were in full support of that.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Louis, you're a very competitive guy. You were when you played,
you have been all your life in a number of
different ways. I can't tell you how completely I disagree
with the head coach. I think there are times where
he's talking about doing what the player is, what's in
the best interest in the player. There is not a
person in the world will convinced me that what the
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head coach did was in the best interest of Carson
Wentz in that occasion, given the degree of pain he
was clearly so and feeling. I don't care how badly
he wants to be out there. There are moments when
a coach who's responsible takes the pressure off that player
and takes him out of the game. That guy should
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not have been playing in the fourth quarter for me, period,
end of story.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
What do you think, Well, it's not that I want
to second yes the coach, because like you said, I've
played in difficult situations so of all my teammates. But
the phrase that you just used, in the best interest,
he had that arm so you know, protected, so to speak,
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and yet it still didn't do any good. And I
think you do need the other arm. If he didn't
need the other arm, then I understand that. But I
think you need the other arm if you're trying to
run away from somebody, give him a stiff arm. Whatever.
I believe he could have done the point. And of
course I wanted to see Mexican in there, but he
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fought like crazy to stay in there, but he was.
I used to say to the players, if you're going
to play with an injury, you have to play with
this one thing in mind. The people that paint of
what you play believe you're capable of playing one hundred percent.
They don't know if you heard or not, so they
can't give you a pass because you already got a
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bad groin. But you're out there skating. So when you
go out in the field, even if you're injured, it's
not the fact that you want to play injured. You
owe to the fans to tell them that you're playing
at one hundred percent. That's the thing I just about it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I'm still yeah, the whole thing is just bizarre to me.
I don't and I don't deny that the doctors may
have said. Doctors can say whatever they want. You know
how this works in leadership to the head coach. Ultimately,
you can make any call you want and it's not
gonna be No one's gonna judge Wentz as well. He
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walked away. He was wimpy. They saw what he was
doing with the game. To me, when it gets to
Louis to thirty four to ten, with about I don't know,
ten minutes to go in the fourth, the game's over.
That's what I was saying, the game's over. So just
at that point now they did pull. I'm late. It
was much later. I think it was two minutes to
go that last that last drive. So I I just
(07:18):
shake my head. The the for me, the alibiing that's
done here. I don't believe it. And I said this
the other day. If Mike Zimmer does the same thing
and continues to play once the way the Kaos did,
he would be getting drilled by media people. They would
in humane stop with the old school nonsense. For some reason,
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Kaos is allowed to skate on this. I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, the decision was made. Yeah, as he's trying to
say right now that it was, and of course the
player agreed with it.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Right, he's going to do He's going to do as
you know. I just think what you said.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
When it's thirty four to ten, you have to see
how are we going to come back as he came
able of bringing them back at because you can see it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's another great point. It's even if you don't want
to concede, what does he have left in him? It
d he's if he is literally wincing in pain, crying,
for God's sake, how is that guy in that environment,
no matter how tough you want to be, how does
he give you any chance to come back in a
game that is probably hopeless because of your offensive line situation,
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whether you have Joe Montana or Frank Target in his
prime at quarterback under those conditions.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Freddie Freeman led off the bottom of the eighteenth inning
with a so low home run. It was the first
run scored in over ten innings in Game three of
the World Series. Just reading the box score here, the
box scor has got some great numbers. Dodgers led to
zero Toronto scores four in the top of the fourth
to take a four to two lead. The Dodgers tied
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up in the bottom of the fifth. Each team scores
a run in the seventh, so they're tied at five
and then they go ten score US innings. Toronto used
nine pitchers, the Dodgers used ten. Shohe Atani four for four,
couple of dongs, three runs, batted in, was walked five times,
reach base nine times, all nine times that he was
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out there.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
What else do I want to get to from this game?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
How about Freddy Freeman just two for seven with a
couple of walks, but one of them will actually two
of them being big home runs. Last one, of course,
Mookie bets one for eight. You feel like Toronto's like, yeah,
we'll live with MOOKI bets one for eight. But with
the Dodgers, they just keep coming and coming and coming.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
To put it in.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Perspective for Luigi, we'll put the time. It was over
six hours and it ended at two fifty palm beach time.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Louis two fifty palm beach time.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
The sun when I already looked at that, Yeah, he
would have been about to come up eleven fifty Pacific,
two fifty am palm beach time. And now it's game
four tonight you get to go take a nap, maybe
have a quick meal, and come back and play game
four tonight with a Tani on the mound. Pretty compelling
stuff at Chavez Ravine last night.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
How much time, Louis you've been to I assume you've
been the game at Dodger games at Chevez Ravine.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You've never been to a game there. That's interesting. I
don't have figured out on one of the.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Show there, you know, because Dodgers are my team in
the in the National League.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
But I have never gone to a game they It is.
I've been there obviously in years and years and years
and years, but it is it's just a it's it's
a it's a great ballpark and a great backdrop. Obviously
you get the palm trees in the background. You got.
It's just it's a wonderful scene. And of course they've
got everything and we've got nothing. Payroll of half a billion,
I think whatever, and they're still making money. We're talking
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about Tani alone. They're making this incredible because of the
international ratifications of what he represents so well.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
The Toronto manager made one mistake. You should have walked
with Tony four more more.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
That's it you're exactly probably time great point.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I think you might as well just call it you
rule one pitcher, or just say you can go to first.
Don't wait to stop.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Being so prideful, ye right, don't think you oh, we
got to compete in order to compete, No, not against him.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
If you want to be like Daniel, listen to the
game on the radio. You can listen ESPN Radio on
the iHeart app, the very free and very easy to
use iHeartRadio app. You can make ESPN Radio preset right
next to the fan, right next to the Timberwolve channel,
whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Speed of the Wolves.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
They fall to five hundred last night with a one
twenty seven to one fourteen loss at home to the
Denver Nuggets. We know Ant did not play. He's not
going to play tomorrow. He's not going to play for
a week or two. Nikola Jokic did play. He had
a triple double. Jamal Murray did play, scored twenty three
of his forty three points in the third quarter. When
the Nuggets wrestled control away from the Wolves did They
led by eight at the half. Jaden McDaniels scored twenty
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five points to lead Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Still got a ripped by Finchy after the game, not
playing good enough defense. Neither's Rudy.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Apparently Rudy was great opening night, by the way, had
like fifty rebounds.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Here's what I want to know, and I know their
analytics exist for this. If he's not playing as well
as we'd like or the head coach like defensively, I
wonder what our analytics stats are, you know, the the
sophisticated stats on our defensive efficiency when he's on the court,
Rudy versus our defensive efficiency you know, off the court.
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Because he's not as good, yes as you want him
to be, the numbers have tended to be absurdly worse
when he's not out there.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Second, Dane Moore Drop of the night. He put a
video out about that, I think this morning or yesterday. Yeah,
just because it's always right. It's almost like ten points
per possession less or you know, ten points per one hundred,
which doesn't mean.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
He can't play better. I'm not here to say that
Vinci's wrong, but it's just interesting because I I just
right now, I don't know that I put him at
the top of the list.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I don't who knows, So it's another national TV game
eight thirty tomorrow. The Lakers are in town. Lebron is out,
Luca is out, and Anthony Edwards is out. So get
ready for the Austin Reeves Show and the Julius Randall
Show tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
At Target Center.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
You can hear that game.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I'm the fan. Go ahead, Louie, before Goinny for the
Kivin Foldus calls you when you're seeing beside the app.
Not just the timberl games, they're Wild games.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
They're on KF are one hundred percent absolutely, yeah, yeah,
you don't even need a different channel, you just go exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
They're usually on kfan. Yeah, the Wolves aren't always, So
that's why the Wolves have their own channel Wild.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
When they're on, they're on. They don't have to wait
for pressing it. They get pressingent. We don't even have
to tell them that.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Okay, I'll tell Kevin you're okay.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, Well he won't believe it. No, he doesn't care.
Here's what he wants to hear. Two men in a
junk truck want to give you a shot to win
Bonus Bucks with our National Cash Contest. You can enter
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Speaker 2 (13:40):
An idea on how to save the Minnesota wild from themselves.
My guess is are in studio. Guest will laugh at it.
He'll say it's not practical. I'm not even sure you
would disagree with it, but you say, at this point
it might be impractical. I'm going to run it by Luigi.
We're going to talk about his own impressions regarding the club.
We'll get into a couple of interesting pieces from Russo
(14:01):
Radio about some of our defensive issues from a physicality standpoint,
and who knows what else questions for Louis observations six
four six eighty six is the branch on Bryant k
F a n text client.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We sneaks around the world from the.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Ride China in the world and whoever this commentator is
is like to chill this dude on the planet like
he's borderline.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
What do you need to sleep? I don't know who
this guy is.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
But okay, that was a callback from last week. I
think we got to play it every We might have
to make it part of the tradition.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I need to play before the music. I need to
like that needs to be to walk up to the music.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I might be right. The chillis dude on the planet
helps bring Louis to us each and every week, and
a lot of good texts and questions have indeed come in.
In fact, here's one, what do you think of this, Louis?
Why would the Wild invite Gabrick back for tonight's festivities?
He left us didn't like it here? Will he get booed?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Thanks, guys, I don't think he'd get booed any you know,
this is their celebration. Yeah, yeah, you can't hold just
like that. And he was a very popular player, will
and he was here, yeah, and and sometimes Gabrick's not
the only guy in this marketplace that's at for a trade. Man,
Kevin came back here, I'm sure they'd welcome him back
(15:47):
at the Target Center and rightfully, So it's uh, it's something.
He's a tremendous player, probably next to Caprizo, the best
player in the world's ever had, So they should do it.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's true, probably right about that. So that's very philosophical
of you, very humanitarians. So you're rising above any you know, resentment,
leny lingering resentment that the average fan might have for
saying you didn't want us anymore. Gavick didn't want us anymore.
That's what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
There's been a lot of athletes have gone too here
that welcome back. I mean, we've had coaches that have
left in gunback.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
That's also true. It's a very good point, So Wild Insider,
I don't know if you've read it. It's Russo and
Joe Smith. Here's your headline. Lack of physicality is costing
the defense. We have to be harder. Through Sunday, the
Wild defense ranked twenty fourth in the NHL with forty
eight hits in ten games, forty nine behind the league
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leading biggest Golden Knights. There's a lot of ground to
cover there. You can question the validity of some of
the stats when it comes down what do you define
a hit? Whether you know some of that might be misleading.
But regarding the suppose is it lack of physicality? Do
you agree with that? Do you think that is a
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troubling trend at least early in the season, or what
do you think?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Well, first of all, you hit the nail right in
the head. Because I spent about ten minutes discussing hits
with Mike Kelly, the analytical guy for the Wild from
FanDuel on on the last road trip that I was
broadcasting the games because I go to games and I
get the stats after and I see so and so
had one hit or no hits or five hits, and
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I'm saying, I didn't see that guy hit a guy
and he's got five hits. I saw this guy hit somebody.
He's got one and he should add four. So each place,
it's how they determine hits. But having said that, Russ
and Smith are right. They're definitely not physical enough on
the blue line. And some of that is understandable because
you can expect Vulliam, for instance, in Spurgeon not to
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be big body checkers. But overall, even if you're not,
everybody has to take the body when they have vocasion
to do so. And it's not just the physicality part
of it. It's what it brings to the game. It
eliminates when you use your body. When you hit someone,
many times, you eliminate him from the play or getting
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back in the play. That's the important part that you
don't see. It's not just that, oh, my team's hitting,
my team's doing that. You're hitting effectively means you are
eliminating the guy or delaying the guy from getting back
in the play, having to puck turn overnight. And well,
I had lunch with Russo today and I have to
tell you he was He told me about those stats
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and I said, not surprising. It's just a little surprising.
I think maybe they were a little light on how
they determine the hits, but they definitely aren't a physical defense.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Quote. Here's a quote from Garren in this piece. I
want to get your reaction to because part of what
Russo and Smith acknowledges you can't you know, you can't
expect players to suddenly become pronger Stevens Hatcher, et cetera.
And the quote from Garren, you can't try to turn
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somebody into that, Like, if they don't have that in them,
it's not going to be natural. What you want them
to do is to be highly competitive and use the
size to their advantage. We don't need David to kill guys.
If that's in your nature, then okay. But if it's not,
if you try to change guys, you're always going to
be disappointed. So there's something to that too. You can't
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be what you're not right. I mean that's that's but
then maybe that gets back to well, the personnel decisions
you make in terms of are we paying enough attention
to those those issues?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well, if Ruso County near I think this is how
you would answered, and I think that he'd be answering
it correctly. You're not asking someone to kill anybody. You're
asking them to play the part of the game that
they play, and checking is part of the game.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Like I used to say, the player, you don't have
to go there and fight, but you have to go
out there and hit. There's a difference between you have
to fight or you have to hit. Hit means checking.
Checking is part of the game. And by the way,
checking is the easiest part of the game to learn.
When you that in passing, you can take one or
the other as being the easiest. A lot of these
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other things are difficult to do because you're playing on skates,
but checking, just making contact should be the easiest thing
to do. You've got the buck and I'm there, I'm
going to hit you one way.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Or the other.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
You can learn how to hit better, you can learn
how to hit harder, but it doesn't take anything to
learn to just make contact.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
All right, what are you seeing right now? What right
now regarding the while what concerns you the most? Is
it that or is it something else?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Well, what concerns me right now is they need more
more balanced production than they're getting. And I'm never going
to tell somebody how to run the club. Everybody runs
it a different way. What you're doing, that's you, I'm
thinking right now, And now what I would try and
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do personally is just change things up, you know, get
a different thought process in the locker room, uvenments. That's
making a deal. If you can make a deal. It's
harder to make deals yet you never know. The one
thing that I used to enjoy doing when I was
general managers, I was on the phone every day just
either trying to make a deal or trying to kill
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somebody else's deal that I found out they were trying
to make because the effects where were there to be
in the conversation. But I would look around the league
right now if there is somebody that we could add
that could change the complexion of the team just a
little bit. You make coaching change, and that's just a
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little bit of a change. Right at the beginning that's
something that for some reason or other gets rewarded and
wins right off the bat. And you just want to
get the engine going against like putting gas in the engine,
and how can you start it? And maybe there might
be someone I had lunch as I said with Russo
today and I says, you know your place. Yeah, an
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twenty three enjoyed the new meatball sandwich was fantastic. And
I said to my said, uh, you know, I look
around and see if there's anybody in the league that's
having trouble themselves and maybe just try and change things up.
Sometimes it's just a change of scenery for two players
and work on me. He said, well, Shovetnika from Carolina
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hasn't got at a point in eight games. I just
he'd he'd be my number one target because that guy's
had the history of plane. He is a power forward,
like the way he gets involved right. And he said
he's got no trade cause I said I had no
trade EXA. They'll say you're going to be playing with CAPRISO. Okay,
I'm going you know, so, yes, you got that to use.
And I said, I don't know what they'd want, Maybe
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be too much what they want wild want, but you
didn't imagine, imagine if there was a deal, it'd be made.
They're just changing the face, changing that all of a sudden,
a different are era comes in in the locker room,
you get just a different vibe and who knows. I'm
just saying hopefully something had just changed up, because you do.
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You do have to change no matter what anybody's talking
to you about. Everybody says the right things, but you
have to change the mindset that you know might be
there but they're not.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
So you don't think it's too early to do that.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Oh no, I think early is the best. You know,
before you get any other gets pretty quick, Yeah, because
every game is build. Everybody can say it's early in
the season, but the points count the same as at
the end of the season. You can't get them back.
And if you get yourself in the hole. Sure people
have dug out of a hole and Big OL's Louis
won the coup when they were lasting about in January.
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But I don't want to be the guy trying to
do it at the second time, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
What was the age or what is the age of
the oldest really successful national hockey league coach. Oh, Scott
boom and so how old was he?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
He was in his sixties when when he won a cup?
I'm sure that's the oldest. Yeah, he might have even
been seventy. Scott, he's my age. I'm alway's older than
I think you want.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
You want my idea on how to fix the while? Yeah,
get Scotty, No, get Jack. Oh yeah he's only eighty.
He was a youngish eighty. Why not bring Jacques back?
He's the He's the only coach that made it work here.
Louis honest about it.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
But you're a big Lamara guy or were I am?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I love him? First of all, he's never going to
go back coaching. And what if you're going to refuse,
you can't. He's got everything he wants in life.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Frump Florida.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Hey, you know right now, I think you got to
give Hindes a chance with these to get this.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It wasn't even bad as a rip on Hindes. I
just I still meant when he came back, was it
last week or the week before? For the big reun?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
He's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I still miss the guy. I loved that guy. I
didn't really get to know him all that well, but
I always I just thought he understood the game. He
was sharp, he and I know people thought that style
was boring and it was bad for the league. All
I know is they won with him. They won with him,
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and they've never since won the way they did under
him early in the in the in the team's history.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Well, people here didn't think it was boring. And you
never get tired of winning. He never get tired of winning.
You never get out of a game with him. That's
that's a good part. And definitely you don't need a
lot of scoring.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Ut fundamentally sounds yeah, he's but he's very voice. His
voice is just the best, isn't it. The little mare voice?
Of course, there's just nothing like it.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
And you got the great little smirk, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
No, he's so is he? Is he even advising anybody?
At this point?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
He just well, no, because Lamerolla got fired.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Okay, that's right, And he was advising.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
He was advising Loop from his rocking chair in Anamory
island watching on TV. That's what he basically what he
said to me. And they were very close and he
enjoyed it. But Jock, Jock is the type of guy.
When he says enough enough, he means enough enough. I've
had enough and that's it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
He just he's very exactly right.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
He has that the power of his mind is make
a decision, live with it, and I'm very happy with
the contender. There's no second guessing. I don't know if
I've ever talked to Jock or watched Jock or seen
Jock when he's second guests something. He just that he's done.
He's a firm believer in it, right, wrong or indifferent.
I'm living well.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You you know him a lot better than I do,
so I don't remember the term. My recollection isn't that
he screamed at everybody. But he was firm. I mean,
there was never any question who was in charge. It
seemed like he had the ability to just be hard
guy if he needed to be, but not necessarily a
guy who's ranting all the time. You know, those are
the best kind of discipline coaches.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I think, well he coached like Snmore's famous line, did
I love the best you can play like that? Just
not here perfect, You'll be going somewhere else, pretty much
said Jock was. That's how he was. He was very
very decisive, and everybody knew as you just said, Oh,
how he felt what he expected? And is he happy
or not?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Lamara's side, Can the trap work with our team?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
You know, let's put it this way. Defense, good defense
works with all teams. But at the same time, good
defense always has somebody that, for some reason or other
breaks it down some way to get opportunities. That's what
hockey is all about.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's true. That's a great way to put it. In fact,
Paul writes, Louis's ideas are brilliant. Louis should be a
consultant for the while. Wasn't Garren Hier as a consultant.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
He's got enough consultant. They have enough. They got such
a large staff that all the people they need.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Even Leopold has financial restrictions. They can't afford loose. That's good,
but I didn't even think of that. Yeah, you'd be
too demanded.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Uh. Is the stats still true? The Caprice office not
scored an even handed, a full strength goal. And does
that what with the goalie? Oh yeah, okay, right, that's true.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But he's still he set up a lot even string goals.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
He did, he did, he has that's one.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Dimensional play and they never see Conor McDavid had an
He hadn't even had a goal, but he had a
number of assists. What is that happens to everybody?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
So what our penalty kill is awful? Again, I think
our power plays started great and it's kind of receded. Uh,
but I think our penalty kill is one of the worst. Again,
So in your history, in your experience in hockey, what
is the key to establishing a legitimate penalty kill.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Well, there's a few things. One one, you don't want
to give a good clear shots from the best areas
still in the area, So you want to keep the
puck on the perimeter. You want you want to limit
the passes to go through the box area. And your
goaltender has got to be able to make stops and
you have to as best you can, let them see
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the puck, clean the front of the net and take
care of rebounds. There's a lot of things you have
to do. But the good, the good teams do it.
They do it well and and uh, I still think
you know what, I think they we're all going to
make an improvement. We haven't seen it yet, but they
have Boldie for instance, out they're killing penalty's ROSSI, We're
going to see some short ended goals. I really believe that,
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because at least when they get the puck, you feel
good about their chances if they want to take an
opportunity a get the shot on net and shots produced goals. Uh.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
We we talked a little gophers last week, then we
got swept and we over the weekend. I think we're
now two five and one. You mentioned last week we
lost a lot of people, I think long view, but
the same thing. I mean, do you worry about it's
getting late kind of early kind of late or late
kind of early, whatever the cliche is, Are you starting
to worry?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Well, I'm not worried because I never expected, you know,
them to be at the top of the heap this year.
I think that I'm more interested in seeing how they
grow and having the opportunity to become a much better team.
They they have skill in the team. They the one
thing that you can teach young people. As I said,
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you can't teach them to score, but you can teach
them to defend. And so when you talked about Lamaire,
even though he didn't have scoring, he had I was
a team that defended well. So I think that. You know,
you have to look at the goal for hockey team
as how are they improving in their defensive play to
limit the opportunities to limit the goals against because they
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do have people upfront that have history of scoring, so
should continue to have opportunities score and score goals. Yeah,
and e wasn't any sports. You got to start the
defense first, and you got to start your own zone first.
If you're not taking care of that, if you're giving
up too many good opportunities, you can't You can't win. Eventually,
you're gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
No question about it. Guardsie, do we still have was
there one of the famous lamaire not our Jacques, one
of the famous lamaire soundbites we had was about worry
about we wait, we wake up, we worry? Do you
remember that one? Do we still have that one anywhere
at any of our button bars? You know the one
I'm talking about? Yes, it was really a good one.
It wasn't on the button bar. If you look to
your right, you will see it as the liner that
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we will be playing into the next break.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Oh okay, so it does exist. It exists, and people
will hear it about five minutes from now.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Let me ask you something also that is not necessarily
related to hockey. Luigi. You know Glenn Mason joins every week.
In fact, he'll be in here tomorrow. Is he back
or is he going back to Fargo. I can't remember
what Nicky's here. I think he might be here. So
last week I mentioned to Mace, I say, you know,
one of the great things Louis did with us over
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the years is we had the Legends with Louis series
where occasionally he would help us get a big name
guy like from hockey, like Scottie Bowman, Phil Esposito, you go,
don Tony Especia, drive the whole bit, Kenny and Kenny
Dryden exactly, it the late great Kenny Dryden. And I said,
you know what, you should do the same with us,
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like get Barry Alvarez, will have you on with Barry Alvarez,
Legends of college coaching. You know what May said, Why
should I do that for you guys? Why should I
do your job for you? My job guards he should
do That's that's he's got three dogs that are looking
for a pen.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Maybe his girlfriend could hold those dogs. You get a
new claim.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
That's the answer. I just was like, it was. I said,
if you wanted to find the difference between Luigi and Mason,
that's it in a nutshit is friends, great idea, Let
me do that. Let's well all you know, I'll use
my standing. Yeah, we don't have that kind of standing.
We acknowledge that. And I thought Mace would feel honored, like, hey,
you know, it's okay, I'm gonna do that. And he he,
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He couldn't have been more sarcastic about the whole big
you know, you know why?
Speaker 4 (33:18):
And I did you try to make an overture? And
I've got some good inrows. We're working on it. We're
working through some contractual things I see, which I think
are a little silly, but we're working through those things.
The thing is, Louis likes to hear. First of all,
Louis likes talking to his friends. Right, we did it.
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It been part because he had questions, he wanted stories
out there. Louis enjoyed it, I think as much as
we did. I don't want to speak for you, lou
but he seemed to. And Mace doesn't want to spend
his hour talking about other people. That's isn't that the
big the distinction?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
That's also the box. Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
If we were to give him a second or maybe
he should share it, but his hour, he wants to
be about himself.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Here's the question, because there's a part of me. It says,
if you find a way to land, let's say Barry
Alvarez the next couple of weeks, that that whenever that
you get them, we tell Mace, we don't need you
this week. We got somebody else with Barry Alvarez.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
And we talked to Bill from Jack's Cafe. He thinks
it's great. Terry Limo loves it, so we're good, and
then that would change his tune. Yeah, at that point
J J. Mccarteam, we'll put him on the bench. That's it, Well,
quiet bench him possibility that might be the way we
have to go. Or we'll let Louis come in and
talk to him.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well, that's that's another way to that's no doubt. Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
The branch on Brian Kafan text line is six four
six eight six.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
This is from Larry Mondelo. Guy Loui's advice for the
wild sounds very familiar because it seems like basically what
he's saying is change your face, be happy, and joy.
It's the famous Ricky Rubio SoundBite that we that we play.
But I think part of what you're saying is you
have to help them change their face. Oh yeah, it's
not to go in and say change your face is
probably not going to be enough. You've got to give
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them the impetus. Correct.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yeah, you've got to be the leader. There's if you're
going to conquer anything, you have to have somebody in charge. Right,
But the opportunities there everybody, everybody wants to win and
they want help. They should want help to get out
of it. At a time when you're in a situation
where you got some real problems. I can't understand why
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there would be anybody wouldn't want some advice about to
get it better or do it better, or change something.
And many times it might be just changing a little
thing here or there. For many times it might be
completely changing the style of play with or playing. But
it's it's almost like a lifeline when you when you're
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talking to people that need help and you come up
with an idea different idea all of a sudden, I
can tell you this. We we were playing Toronto in
the playoffs and that's when Murray Oliver's coach, and he
came down and he says to me, Louis got to
get in the bench. We haven't beaten Toronto on your
long You've got to come down and take over the coach.
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And I hate coaching, you know, I don't mind coaching
a game with repetition. But I went to practice and
and I'll never forget because they said, look, every time
I see Toronto, this is the way they play an
offensive zone. This is how they check you. So we're
going to do this little thing differently. And we set
a little tweak, set up a play, and this is
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this is how we're going to come out, and this
is going to give us a break. You know, we
might even get a breakway well, when you know, third
shift of the game, we pulled it off. We had
a break, We went down, scored, and Ronnie Freest, who
was standing right beside me, stood up and yelled and
he turned around me and he said, it worked. It worked,
you know, so all of a sudden, yeah, and it's yeah.
(36:56):
It just then was they can change and eyes a
whole bit. Yeah, you beat him three straight. It was
just terrific.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Sometimes it does sometimes just a little thing. It's creativity. Yeah,
you got to come up with and you make people
believe right, Yes.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I'm saying that's what I'm seeing. If there's just something yep,
it works, that people can hang their head on the
delta that they are feeling the way they're playing, or
something might change. That's all I'm seeing is find something
that just change the attitude or change the thought process
that the guys are going through.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
One more break and then one more segment with Luigi.
Any questions that they said, I'll get to try to
get to as many of them as I can. Whatever
that level of hockey is you want to talk about
or something else. Six four six eight six back with
more Louis.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
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Speaker 2 (38:23):
Good text coming in out of Grand Forks. This is
from Kurt and Kurt is curious Luigi to get your
view regarding the purported NBA gambling scandal. You know, it's
a big federal investigation. You got a fairly big name
player and then a Hall of Fame coach implicated. Now
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the Hall of Fame coach, it seems to be more
about this his part in this poker deal, although there's
also some indication that he may have been even though
he's unindicted for this, given some information about sitting some
of his players. So from Afar, what what are your
impressions of this? Is it? Is it the tip of
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the iceberg? Do you worry that we're headed in an
ever more dangerous direction regarding this given the degree to
which sports leagues and you know, betting services have kind
of gotten bed together. What do you make of it?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Well, first of all, I'm extremely disappointed. I can't believe
that people making that kind of money that we're indicted
would even think about doing something that's going to enhance
them by extra money. They got enough. I don't I
don't see the reasoning for it. And right away somebody
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came to me. I hear that there's an investigator, investigation
coming to the hockey, I says, I haven't heard that yet.
There was some guy. I said, look, let me tell
you one thing. If it's a guy, he's got to
be a goaltender, because if you don't, if you don't,
if you don't fix the goaltender, it doesn't matter who
you're pulling out of the line of I've been in
games where we've got out forty five to fifteen, won
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the game, And if you don't take the goaltender out,
that's the only guys you can investigate because the other guys,
you know, sure it ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
So I.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Don't think it's going to be coming more and more.
The only place I always worried about was in college
because college players don't get weren't getting money, and they
could get money. A big guy could he you know,
they could affect the game by you know, going stone cold.
And if he's averaging twenty two points a game and
I was getting two, it's going to severely affected. Plus
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throwing the ball away, et cetera, and all that. But
I can't. I can't think that there are that many
stupid players in the world and that they they have
a need to do this.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Is there is it. I don't know if this is
conceivable because it's such a big part of so many
of these gambling outlets, but the there's been a lot
of talk about at the very least, you have to
try to courage or if possible, eliminate the prop bet, because,
as you know, the prop bet in basketball is just
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It could be as simple as he's gonna miss his
first shot or the number of minutes he's gonna play.
It doesn't have to be fixing the game. And that
that's where this stuff is almost impossible to police. Now
in some states they've outlawed prop bets involving college players.
They've not made the step for pro I don't know
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if it's conceivable. If all you're doing is going to
is you're going to drive all the prop bets underground
to illegal betting. I'm not sure, but to me, that's
the biggest rub right now in the NBA. It's load management,
that's one of it's sitting players tanking, but the other
part of it is just the prop bet, which can
be one play. It came up in baseball too, you know,
you betting on a pitcher's second pitch in the third
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inning of his starting performance, that sort of thing. So
would you like to see that, if it's practical, the
prop bet be eliminated, or have pro of team pro
sports try to band together to say we got to
get this route this out as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Well, that's where I agree with you, because that's that's
the betting that you can't fix a player or something.
You take Fox and every Sunday when they got to yeah,
you know, Sequon Barkley's going to get over for six yards,
this guy's going to catch and go for one hundred
and twenty yards to passing those kind of bets that
should be out lawed. That that is gambling running the telecast.
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There is no need for that at all.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
And I don't even think it's that interesting.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
I don't think it's that interesting. But what bothers me
as the effects that could have on people. First of all,
you always worry about can people afford to even bet.
You go to a casino and you see a lot
of guys sitting there, and they sit there for hours,
and you wonder, how can you make it that's you
feel bad about it if they don't have the willpower
to walk away or limits them absolute loss every every
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time they go to casino. Well, it what worries me
on those prop bets. It starts developing the gambling syndrome.
And now you start all of a sudden, you know
you win, you win. I once you're in it all
to say, well next week, now you might be betting
five hundred because you won three hundred, and now you
start getting in I lost five hundred. I got to
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get it back. And I tell somebody just to go
to Vegas. Look at those pretty buildings, And I said,
you think they they're building those because people are winning,
they said. And and I told one of my grand said, well,
I believe when I was out there, want some money,
I said, you didn't win it. They just loaned it
to you. He's been loaned to you, and you're going
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to give it back more unless you realize you know, okay,
you're not getting up winning.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
That's good advice. Uh. This is from Izzy, our old
friend Izzy in Vegas. Many of us consider al Sea
Court the most hated player in his in the in
the history of Minnesota sports. Does Louis have any good
Sea Court stories?
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah, I might have told it years ago when when
I was going to sign Ciciarelli. I went out there
and I talked to the newspaper man. His name was
John Harrington for the London Press there in London, Ontario,
and I said, tell me about the Cicerelli kid. I said,
I'm really impressed how he scores goals. I says, and
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then way he compezzes. He liked that all the time.
And he says, Louis said, we had a situation earlier
this year where he scored a goal and we put
the picture in the paper of him scoring, and then
the picture was the goaltender. He's being the goaltender, but
behind him was El Seaguard, he said, Sea Court and
he have had this thing going all year long. Seagart
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was playing for Hamilton and Cicerelli is playing for London,
and he says he came down and he came to
the paper the next day and he says, John, can
you give me a glossy picture of that? I need
by ten? So I ran one off for him. He
took the pen and he says, hey, dummy, isn't this
your man, you're supposed to be checking. Put an envelope
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and send it to sea Cord. Oh, so I started
way back there. Pretty And then when we had when
we played in Chicago. The night before we were going
to the to Washington play the All Star Game, and
the All Star players we're going to visit the White House.
The next day, we're sitting on the bus and it
was in Washington. The team is going over to practice,
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and the night before, Dino had gone out in the
third period and he got hit in the ankle, was
a shot and he was out and sitting in the
first first row with sonomore and Seacord gets on the
bus and he said, hey, do you know how's the ankle?
Is you a hole? He says, you don't care, what
do you care? Don't give me that bull. So there
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was never any love. Yeah, and Dino even off the ice.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Oh, that's pretty good. So it kind of developed over
the years. That's pretty good. All right, you're on your
way to Florida first, Yeah, and then and.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Then the Big Island then knowing uh to uh Oaho
Big Islands.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Call, Oh wow, okay, I got you that Island, I
got you. Yeah, And and because somebody had texted much earlier.
They want to know what your health secret is. And
timing's good, right because you just had another another like
unprecedented physical admail. Correct.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Yeah, my doctor told me that.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
So give us Give us the quote from your doctor
what he used to say and what he how he
amended it.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Well, the last four years he had told me I
was going to lift to be one hundred and yesterday
Walt Wilson, who have had for over twenty five years
or so, and he said to my wife, look at this,
and he turned the screen around. He said, look it,
I'm going to show you last thirteen years. Nothing changes,
nothing moves as this guy's going to live forever. So
well passed, I said, Walt. He says, just keep doing
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what you're doing. He says, drinking a lot of wine.
He's just keep drinking.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Don't change anything.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
He don't change anything. He's he's such a remarkable doctor.
I mean, he's he's a very good friend of Jill Mawer's,
by the way, and he's he's a person. Know, he's
more than a doctor. He's a very close friend. And
then it's great when you get that kind of relationship
with doctors because they're going to talk to you as
all of them would, honestly, but more in a family
(47:11):
way that you're gonna you know, they really care.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely for sure.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
I'm just thinking, if you really live to be forever,
you're gonna have to add more wings to the cabin.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, you're gonna need more. That's and you could have.
I'm lamenting.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
I'm actually mad because you could have been the chillest
guy in the planet for seventy five years on the
state hockey tournament instead of just that's it. See, yeah,
might have to drive in the Stom's true. They would
have figured it out. I'm sure that the river road
would be fixed one of those years. So next week
from the road with us.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Right right, from all being Florida.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Next Florida, next week, right, Well what chat then? Great
stuff is always thanks man.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, thanks, nice to be with you guys.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Always good to be with you. And we'll see someone.
That's it. That's about it. Let's make this the top
of the hour pause. Let's talk a little bit about
the the breaking news regarding the Target Corporation. Some more
details coming forward today. We'll get into some of that,
and who knows what else when we come final segment
(48:09):
of the show.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
This evening is presented by American Pressure commercial grade pressure
Washers since nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
It's the Bumper to Bumper show wrap. I forgot it.
Turns out we aren't going till six thirty tonight. We've
got Vikings programming to get in and so we'll be
out what about ten minutes from now something like that,
six minutes from mark Man? All right, Well, then I
probably waited too long to get to could you hit
(48:38):
find the calendar calamity SoundBite? Because I did tease it earlier.
I want to at least touch upon it.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
East The Minnesota Sports Calendar of.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Calamity one of the most underrated calamitous moments in Golden
Golf for football history. Maybe underrated in part because it
goes back all the way to nineteen eighty nine. Oh yeah,
was when we blew a thirty one point lead against
the Ohio State Buckeyes. This was at the Metrodome. I
(49:10):
was at this game. I chronicled this game. I remember
it well. We end up losing forty one to thirty
seven in the final minute of the game. Gutikinst I believe.
I think Goody was the coach at that point, and
among the shocks of that game, Ohio State turned the
ball over in that game. The Buckeyes did six times,
(49:34):
not nine times, but six. That's a lot, and they
ended up coming from behind to win it. The Gophers
were up thirty one to eighteen heading into the fourth,
led by eleven with five minutes left, and then the
Buckeyes scored twenty three points in the fourth quarter to
take the lead with fifty one seconds left. That's not
(49:56):
to be confused with well another one of those calamitous stunners.
It was the Zach Kustak game against Northwestern in two
thousand thousand. On this time, remember, we blew a twenty
one point lead in that one and lost to Northwestern
at the buzzer on a hail Mary forty one to
thirty five. I just walked back into my house.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
For like the final two years, I was listening to
it Ray Christenton on the radio.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
It was. It was And I've told the story before.
I've tried to get Mace going. Before that, the Coustock
family stopped one summer in Dinkytown to talk to Glenn Mason.
He was looking for a place to land left handed quarterback,
and Mace was not interested. Now Mace has said since
he didn't even remember the story that way. Bottom line
(50:45):
is Kustock ended up going to Northwestern and worked out
pretty well. Worked out pretty well for him, at least
on that occasion. And then another underrated one Vikings related
goes back all the way to nineteen hundred and eighty
four in Archie Manning's first start. Archie Mannings first start
as a Vikings quarterback, he was sacked eleven times by
(51:08):
the Chicago Bears, and of course the eighty five Bears
a year later, eighty four, they are already good.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Eighty five. They were incredibly good defensively. But the doctor
said he could do no further damage to his shoulder.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
That's exactly it was saying. He was fine. Eleven sacks,
that's a lot. Double when you get to double digit sacks, yeah,
one for every player on the defense. That's pretty remarkable.
The target story is not good. More than eight hundred
Tird employees laid off today and start to Mune has
a story, and maybe we try to delve into this
(51:40):
a little more deeply tomorrow. I would almost and I'd
like to hear from folks who might have been affected
by this. The announcement was that they would restructure and
eliminate eighteen hundred positions, with about one thousand losing their jobs.
And one of the things they explore in the start
to Mune is this notion that the it's it's an
(52:01):
example of the way the corporate environment works these days,
which basically is layoffs have become more impersonal because in
part the rise of remote and hybrid work, where employees
may meet colleagues only a few times a year. Anyway,
sometimes there's no warning at all. Apparently the the online
(52:23):
system they had was not particularly effective either. Some people
could hear I guess on the call, some could not.
More detail on that tomorrow, but obviously devastating news for
a lot of people who are without a job at
this point. And it's targeted, it's local, and we'll try
(52:43):
to get maybe into that in a little more a
little deeper on tomorrow's program, which also is Kessler Day
amazing as well, and Barry Alvarez maybe who's to say,
maybe the target thing.
Speaker 4 (52:59):
I know, we'll talk more about it. I just couldn't
stop thinking about it this weekend because the whole news
was they tell you we're doing layoffs, right, I know
there's no good way to do it. Our company, lord knows,
we've been through a million of them right from the
time that we've been here. There's no good way to
do any of these things, but to say, by the way, tuesday, everybody,
orby sending out layoff notices, so enjoy the weekend and
(53:22):
we'll let you know what happens Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Like, it's just really tough and worse they then were
they get the email at eight telling him we got
a nine a m. Audio call with human resources, and
according to several outlets, the auto did not even work
for about half of the employees. So that in itself
is inexcusable, and it lends credence to well, it's just
(53:48):
it's more, it's colder and more corporate than ever. If
it's the old deal of you got to do what
you got to do, if your target you got, at
least one would think come up with a better approach
to people are not going to be probably satisfied with
what they hear, but at least have the courtesy to
give them a chance to hear it, for God's sake.
And apparently a number of individuals. We're not even able
(54:11):
to follow through and get proper audio quality on the
audio call. Appreciate the call today, the text today as well.
Seyffert in studio at three point thirty, we thank him,
and a great hour as always with Louis Luigi as
we like to affectionately call in between five and six o'clock.
Enjoy the rest of the evening. Vikings Country is that
(54:32):
next no Viking's Uncensored nik Country. The hockey even better.
We'll talk to you tomorrow beginning a three.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
Thank you for the memories, Thank you for the great time.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
We love you Dad, Well go twins.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Thank you for the airtime, and
Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'll talk to you soon.
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