December 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Dan and Gaardsy review the Top 5 including the Vikings injury report and Wolves and Wild before Pat Kessler makes his weekly appearance for the usual roundup of local and national politics.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Cassie is in the house. He will join us probably
after the top five at five. We're out at six
four Golden Gopher Men's basketball. Thanks Mae. We'll see you
next week. What do you got, Guardie?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Donovan Jackson did not participate in practice today. He has
an ankle injury. Levi Drake Rodriguez. He must have heard
his neck yesterday talking with us. He did not participate
with a neck injury today. Jonathan Allen didn't. That was
not injury related. He gets to rest.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You think it is because he had to crane his
neck in my direction. I was like to his amazing right,
and he got like a you know, kink in your
neck from like extending it too far.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You should have done what Seaffert didn't, just completely turn
his back to me.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
He's mad at you about that, by the way, Why well,
because you were You made it sound like he he
took it as an insult. The thing you said, I
think it's Kevin Seaffert, you know, Life of a Producer. Yeah,
and so he was like, wow, you know, I think
he's a little down about it. I mean he might
want to here's the thing. He's not used to it
because he never comes to the State Fair. That's a
continuation of the State Fairs series.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And I forgot to bring that up though you still
haven't a weird alse the ultimate test, Yeah, the Weird House.
So we'll do that next week.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But that's the because, as you know, where I sit
at the State Fair was essentially where I sat yesterday
to your left.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
One chair over, two chairs over, and every guest that
we have just turns and stares at you, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It's get yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Do life is a producer and it happens every single day.
Kessler actually sometimes fans out and stands. He does, he's
got to move a little. Actually, he's the one guy
that really hasn't been part of Life of a Producer.
But Seafer is just not used to it.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Because as I'm sitting there, I said, I feel like
I'm back in Carousel Park. Yeah, I don't think he
necessarily meant it as a slight Nope, it's just a
continuation of just a brilliant bit over the years, the
life of a producer series, sitting in the.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
War question but waiting for it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, by the way, JJ McCarthy full correct? Did you
say that already? Well, he was actually limited, but it
had nothing to.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Do with injury.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Owe that coming, full participant, That's yeah, that's all, that's all.
I really was like able for sure. Well, I was
gonna say Brosmor was not limited as well. Would you
have had the conies to say that? Yeah, because that
won't affect how much I like him. Yeah, it's too
easy of a too easy of a line. But we
Darris saw it was full today too, by the way, also,
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which is important.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes, by all accounts, McCarthy will start yes on Sunday
against Washington. And do we know whether Daniels starting or not.
Daniels's he was limited and practiced today. I'm glad you asked.
He was limited with his left elbow injury. So that's
the Vikings injury report.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
The wild one last night, one zero, the Great Wall
of Saint Paul, brilliant again four shutout in six games,
picking up right where he left off in December from
November when he won the Rookie of the Month award
and the Wolves won last night in overtime at the
All was difficult to play Smoothie King Arena.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
There are eight people in New Orleans. They were quiet,
They're a mess, and they obviously, uh, they're they're superstar
alleged superstar player. He's out again. Correcton Williams. Williams for
a couple of weeks, they it was a play with
your food game. And then I'll be honest, they they
would not have even wanted in the in the end
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if not for a couple of steals one Orleans and yeah,
that's those are the things that opened the door. Yes,
I think Dante had one as well. And then Edwards
was terrific offensively. Defensively, he turned his head a couple
of times and gave up the layups. His offense is
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getting better. What I like, what I do appreciate is
that we said with with Mike Connelly who joined at
three point thirty, that he with down two Wolves have
the ball one last chance at the end of regulation.
He goes straight to the basket and scores wide open,
and the stat that Johnny Athletic reminded us of is
that that's the first time in his career that he
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has scored either a game time or a game winning
basket with three seconds or less to go in regulation
or ot which is eye opening. I think a little busy,
But part of I would argue the reason for that
is he doesn't do enough of what he did last night,
and it's not always easy to get to the hoop.
I get that, but to me, that's what I want
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to see more go downhill. But his intermediate shot rit making,
I think is getting better. I do sense that he
is getting better and he's much more comfortable. It's clear
he's worked on that particular shot. But their defense was
a mess in the first half, and an even slightly
better team they would not have been able to come
back and steal that game.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
His finishing at the rim has gotten a lot better too,
that he's finishing in all kinds of different ways.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
He had one while they were making their run.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I think it was an overtime where he's on the
right side and he kind of eurosteps and then does.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Like a left hand.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, that's a nice on the very nice so smooth
uses the basket itself as the you know, to to
ward off the defender who goes back to the other
side of your correct Let's straddle and get to Kesler
because we're out at six. We are out at six o'clock.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And then when we come back, we'll ask rose bowl.
Guy's got a question for you that might be well,
actually I should add that Kessler himself would like it
as well. What does that mean? And then we'll get
to a bunch of other stuff before we wrap things
up at six for Golden Gopher men's basketball against undefeated
Indiana University. I wish the American media would take a
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great look at the views that the people in conference
and find out how they call America or anti America, Kuessler.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Because people have got to know whether or not their
presidents are proper.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Tear down the dish wall. I did nothing wrong the
Minneapolis Airport cemetery. Y're no Jack Kennedy Kessler, and.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Now to help Dan break down all the tough questions
in politics. It's our own Kessler political Walk. I feel
like a supermodel, except like times ten, it's Channel fours
Mad Kessler with Dan Morero. I'm a fan.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Many of us are frustrated.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, we are. We're all very frustrated, are we not.
Kessler is indeed back with us, and we're out at six.
As I said, for go for hoop action as we
like to stay in the business. So you're on your
way to the You're going straight from FID to the banker.
Actually will first big ten game of the year, I
know against undefeated in two undefeated. Stuff with Indiana come
from the idea, I mean, honestly, goodness, it's real. There
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are a million things for us to discuss, some of
them more significant than this. But I have to bring
this to your attention. And you may or may not
know about this, because I know you've had a very
very busy day. But it falls into the classification of
what are we doing. I'll read you the the a
couple paragraphs. President Trump said today that he would pardon.
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This is one of several Representative Henry Quaar, Democrat of Texas,
who was awaiting trial in charges that he and his
wife had taken roughly six hundred thousand dollars worth of
bribes from an azar by Johnny Oil Company and a
Mexican bank. The charges against mister Quaar and his wife
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Imelda filed last year in Houston, centered on accusations of
bribery and money laundering. Despite mister Quaar's political affiliation, mister
Trump has expressed public support for him. Why would that be, Well,
here's the quote the Trump social media platform on you know,
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truth social whatever, Sleepy Joe went after the congressmen and
even the congressman's wonderful wife of Melda, simply for speaking
the truth. Henry, I don't know you, but you can
sleep well tonight. Your nightmares finally over. So, in effect,
what we have further confirmation of is if you support me,
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especially if you're a Democrat in this case having to
do with Biden era border policies, then I don't care
what you did. I don't care what you were convicted of.
I don't care who are what you stole from. You're
going to get a free pass. There's two or three
other examples just this week.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
It's happening that what you describe is happening daily.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
And here is what makes me very cynical. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
If you have more to read about it, that's plenty,
But here's what makes me really cynical. The Democrats were
distancing themselves from Quaar and he is announced after this
pardon that he in fact is going to run for reelection,
and Hakim Jeffery's the Democratic leaders like, hey, okay, we're
with yeah, So all is forgiven, all is forgotten. This
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was an intensive investigation. The charges were serious enough that
the investigation revealed enough that they filed very serious charges
against him. And who knows where it was going to do,
but they have. He has been pardoned preemptively in his wife,
even before a trial, because he may or may not
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have expressed some sympathy and support for the border policy
of President Trust.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So it took give me. I'll give you another example.
The is it pronounced genteel, David Genteel. The commutation Trump
issued to him wipes away all further fines and restitution.
He had been sentenced to seven years for his role
in a one point six billion dollar scheme that defrauded
thousands of investors. Prosecutors had been seeking as a result,
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fifteen point five million dollars in forfeiture. But as I
understand it, the way this is set up now there
restitutions off the table. Further fines are off that Tay
that's correct in that case.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That's why are we living in here now and we
haven't even begun to talk about then deformer Honduran president convicted,
indicted and convicted by United on what drug smuggling?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Wait a minute, I thought we were blowing drugs because
we don't might know other countries sending stuff to our
shores that are killing our kids.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
We have to talk about this.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And why would did the President Trump say he's pardoning
the Honduran president. Well, it's because Joe Biden, he, according
to him, rigged the charges and he they went after
him aggressively. And so if anybody, if you're listening and
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neither got some federal charge against you during the Biden administration,
you might as well put.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
In for it.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Now you got a shot.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
That's that's That one is the one that I don't
It's inexplicable to me. And there's a disconnect because I
think there was really substantial evidence that this Honduran president
was working with the drug cartels, taking massive bribes to
allow drugs to go through Honduras into the United States.
(11:27):
So no boat's getting blown up over there, for sure.
All right, let's get more local. That's really his pointing,
it's yeah, it's again.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, and the Trump folks in the audience, I'll
just say, we're just all I'm trying to do here
is follow the story. Don't don't shoot the messenger here
on these are real, These are these stories are happening
in real time. I can't I'm not making them unth
And at some point you go, well, that's a little curious,
isn't it, at the very least, even if you're a supporter.
(11:57):
But that's just me, all right. So let's get to
the brewing. It appears local story involving ICE and response
also I think from the Minneapolis Police Department. Bring us
up to date on where this story is and whether
we are headed for some serious confrontation.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I think this is very serious.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
What was about to happen in the United States, something
that President Trump in It's going to be happening in Minneapolis,
something that President Trump has been forecasting signaling for the
last few days. Let's go to the headline, about one
hundred ICE agents are going to be deployed to Minneapolis St.
Paul starting this week now today's Wednesday. It could happen
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very very soon. It is an escalation of the president's
social media, on his true social and in the cabinet
meeting as recently as yesterday, with his language about Somali's
and Somali Minnesotans who are US citizens.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
He is going to go after them with ICE agents.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And this is possibly going to be a lot more
tumultuous than we expect. It has been in every city.
And by the way, these are blue cities right now,
Chicago here. He's going to New Orleans today, I think.
But he says about Somali's, they contribute nothing, their garbage.
I don't want him in our country. He calls ilhan
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Omar garbage. I mean, startingly, startingly cruel language from a
president we already know. Have we become numb to some
of the crude and clumsy and cruel language, But this
was way beyond anything he has said before. So what's
happening is that the Chief of Police of Minneapolis and
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the mayors of Minneapolis and Saint Paul Hell the press
conference yesterday in which the chief said, if you see
people pulling up in unmarked bands and masks and military
and they're not identified as law enforcement officer, what did
he say?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Dan call nine to one one, right, what is that
going to do? What is that going to do?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I think that probably that that may have the that
that may have the effect of escalating all of this
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
And I don't know if that means that Minneapolis police is.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That's what he's going to say. Has has the police
chief articulated? Then what the sequence would be?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
And so that's why we need to know because in Minnesota,
the policy in Minneapolis is that the Minneapolis police are
not here to aid in deportations and any kind of
immigration enforcement.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
They're not here for that.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
They're here to for crowd control. And in many other cities,
and I expect to see this in Minneapolis. People are
going to converge upon these scenes. But he makes an
interesting point that you can make here in the Twin
Cities and you can't in other cities, and that is
that we have a history of people impersonating police, knocking
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on doors and then murdering residents inside a La Melissa
Hortman and her husband Mark, and then shooting the Hoffman's
the senator and his wife. So what's going to happen here?
We don't know why is this happening. It's been escalating
for a few days. He's in a serious feud with
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Governor Tim Waltz, whom he called the R word. That
is shockingly insulting for people with disabilities and for families
like the Walls family who has a special need son,
many families, including my own, who have special needs, the
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family members. This is what has happened, and that escalated
then with the National Guard shooting in Washington, which was horrible,
a terrible, ugly thing that happened, and it was an
Afghan refugee who was granted asylum in the United States.
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That's where the floodgates opened with President Trump where he
is going to escalate this, leveraging this to do what
he has promised to do, shut down pretty much immigration
to the United States except for white Afrikaaners from South Africa.
He is talking about with Somali Minnesotan's, maybe we should
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denaturalize them. We have eighty thousand Somalis here, most of
them and I can't give you the percentage, but most
of them are American citizens.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
And what do you do?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
They will focus on two three four hundred Somalis who
either are targeted for deportation or have temporary protective status those,
I think is where you're going to see a lot
of the action here, but it's going to be ugly
and it's all mixed up in the fraud that you
and I have been talking about forever, Yeah, for a
couple of years, because he says, the Somalis are ripping
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off Minnesota and it's the Somalis.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
All right, let's break, We'll get We have lots more
time to get back more on this story, and I
want a couple of other want to cover a couple
of the other stories with Pat Kessler. After a very
brief pause, stay time.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
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Speaker 2 (17:36):
It's the Bumper to Bumper show wrap. Kessler is in
the house. Think of this commitment to the bit. He
is going over to the barn immediately afterwards. Games starts
to start at six. He's gonna be with us to
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like whatever five point fifty four or whatever. We're actually
out of here. And yet he's not leaving early. Now.
He did confirm to me, oh that he might have
a quote unquote privileged special entrance. Why just assume he's
doing the valet parking tonight.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I would. I would say no, I would say say it,
but would you mean it? I would? I have my No,
it's even better than Valet parking. I have a next
to the US.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
True, you have great parking. Yes, so what's freaky? Doing?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
It does make it a lot easier.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
It makes it a lot easier when you know when
the snowstorm is there, the blizzard, and you know, okay,
why don't you just buy some tickets? I mean that's
what I did. I pay for this privilege.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
You know, I'm not sure you did you actually buy
the tickets?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Come on, coy, yeah, season ticket. Older man.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
You and Michelle calm Helgan, it has it stop bad?
And they were in the news the other day.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
What was the story? They weren't it was great public service,
was I'm not?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You know?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
And and then you drive, then you drag the family
into it. Look at you.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well the subject came up again recently. I wanted to
go about it. Somebody did you might have been Dan Minnesota,
might have had something anniversary.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
One ticket away to a family member and a top politician,
and that's all they remember.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You let Hank get a hot dog in the Norseman
suite because it was Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I mean, come on, you have to get fired.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
And then this is the finest stadium and she built it,
uh in the United States and the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Right there does Chris Maddele, who I know reasonably well,
who has thrown his hat into the ring on the
Republican side stand without you know, as far as we know,
any political history or any experience running for anything. Is
it the kind of election year cycle where where anything's
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possible given he does, in one sense have a fairly
high profile. But I'm just trying to figure out does
he have any chance or is he kidding himself throwing
his hat into the ring.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
No. I think he is a formidable candidate with a
slate of people supporting him that are going to be
it's going to be really interesting. He'll do law and order.
He has the support of the police. I think the
Minneapolis Police Federation has endorsed him. He is well known
as a prosecutor who's very, very tough, including on crime,
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and so yeah, I think he is going to be
a formidable candidate, and he is going to prosecute the
case against Waltz in large part, I believe because of
the fraud, the hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud
that I think leave Governor Waltz very vulnerable to a
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Republican of challenge or a Republican opponent. Yeah, I think
Mattel is absolutely somebody who can make waves and make
a difference in this race. They're gonna have to fight
over the mega wing of the party. Well, that's well,
I've already seen who is the Republican.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
There is a Republican I don't know if he's a
state Senator or state rep who has already said he's
already dismissed Mattel. Do you know how? You know why
I've here about this? The basis was he has contributed
to Democrats in the past and really has been a
quasi Democrat until this year. And I'm thinking to myself,
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can you be that stupid? You're in a blue state.
Do you want to have an actual chance to win?
If you do, you got you have to cease with
these stupid purity tests, because you can be pure. But
I'm just telling you, in a state of Minnesota, you're
never gonna win a significant office again.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
And I think when you're in in a position like
Chris Maddel is ye, navigating all sorts of attorney.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
You know who else one of my favorite people who
has contributed to Republicans and Democrats. O your guy, Donald Trump,
Donald back in the death contributed tens of thousands of
dollars to Democrats. But one other thing, It's going to
be a fight over the Mega wing, the farthest right
of the Minnesota Republican Party. And you see who's filed
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papers to run today. Another one of our favorite, our
show favorite, you're my pillow guy might well.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You know I say, don't don't dismiss that.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I am dismissing. I'm not dismissing them. That could be
he has no chance to win. That could have an
effect on everything on the people. The person that the
Republican Party nominates, yes or endorses.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Who knows.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
When you have five ten people in a in a primary,
who knows which way it's going to go? Because I
think party endorsements are not worth much anymore this year
so or anymore after this year. So yeah, I mean
there's going to be a lot of people trying to
claim the endorsement of the Maga wing of the party,
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although they have to walk a tight rope and thread
the needle here because they don't want to say, yeah,
I really am a Trump guy. Yeah in Minnesota, you
just you know, that's one of the things that might help.
So you go.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What they're going to do is go after walls. And
I think there's a lot to go after. Well, that's
the thing, there is room there. I thought he was
not impressive at all on was it Meet the Press?
I didn't think I thought he was way too defensive.
Now and that segment he made it sound like, well,
I'm the law order guy. They're going to jail because
it's like, well, we had nothing to do with.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
That part of this is the thing. Pardon me for anyrupment, but.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
When does Governor Waltz clearly accept responsible build.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It at some level at least?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean that. Yeah,
I mean, we really mess this up somehow.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
And although yes, there have been prosecutions, Yes, there have
been court cases, and I think thirty seven Minnesota Somalis
have been pled guilty or been convicted. I mean, at
some point Minnesota has to reckon with what has happened
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over the last couple of years here and so far,
I don't think the Democrats have really done it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
By the way, Andy Lueger is going to be back
in studio with us tomorrow. The original plan was Tuesday,
and then I had to be reminded that Tuesdays Yesterday's
are to Toys for Tots Day. So Luger is going
to be in studio tomorrow. A lot of discussion about
New York questions. Yeah, yes, there's a lot to discuss
with them.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
A lot well, talking about the good news is that, hey,
Minnesota's on the front page of the New York Times,
and a lot of bad news is.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
About how bad we are.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
A lot of it has been reported locally, so this
was sort of the national perspective on although there were
some interesting quotes in there that are extremely damning. There's
no question about that. So we'll see exactly where that
where that goes. You know, it was within just the
last how many weeks ago was it that tepaw was
on with my former partner Hartman Chad and basically said, yeah,
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there's a lot of you know, there are a lot
of Republicans. I know that they want me to run,
but I I'm not an idiot. I will not be
accepted by the current Republican Party in the state of Minnesota.
And as long as that's the case, I got nowhere
to go. And we've kind of talked about this before.
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And look, you don't have to love Temple Lenti, you
know you really don't. And you could say, well, he's
not conservative enough for me, whatever you want to say,
but I'm still stunned. I guess that the political the
report publican political operatives in this state, just from a
practical standpoint, say we want to get in there or not,
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and if we do, then he represents exactly the section
of the party that we need to emphasize again or
to reintroduce. Maybe and maybe that's incompatible with in a
maga world. Maybe that's the bottom line is the two
sides won't look but cannot coexist. But he has as
much said, and he ain't exactly a lefty Tepau.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Has said absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I can't. I can't win here. I can't.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
This isn't this isn't me, this isn't I'm not going
to do the ideological purity test that you're looking for
or get into some of the social issues that I
don't think are are worthy of our time. But that,
to me continues to be the essential question within this
state about the Republican Party. Is there anybody mature enough
to say I want to win and if that means
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I have to quote unquote compromise a little of my maganus,
I'd rather do that. And to me, I don't know,
maybe Tipa wouldn't win anyway after the fact. Now maybe
it's too far past him, but what he represents is
exactly where to me the party has to go, because,
as you said, I think deep down there's a lot
of Democrats who wish that Walls was not running. That's
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absolutely true, and there's never there's never been I think,
greater vulnerability for a lot of reasons. But you're back
to are you gonna if you can't capitalize on this now,
I don't know that you're ever going to have a
better chance.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Well, for those who don't know or have forgotten, the
Governor Polenti, Tim Polenti is the last Republican to win
statewide in the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
How many years was that? Twenty years ago?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
And the last state wide winner, and he states something
that is absolutely true that the cont the party has
been taken over by Trump supporters and mega but there
is absolute room for someone who is a moderate who
can and he's thread the needle very very well, supporting
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trumps policies and gently pushing back when he had to
against some of the craziness coming out of Washington. Somebody
who can gain the moderate Republicans, a lot of the Independents,
and perhaps some more conservative Democrats. But the guy knows
how to count, he knows what's up, what the real
(28:27):
story is, So he would be somebody who would be kind.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Of interesting to run for the United States Senate.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
I do think Republicans have some people like him, if
they can unchain themselves and somehow appease the right wing
of the party and yet appeal to the independence and
moderate Democrats. That's the only way you're going to win,
because all the Democrats, all the votes, most of the
votes are in Duluth, twin cities, Rochester, and that's where
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the votes are.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Got to get them six or five. I had a
bunch of attacks. I've responded to some them, but not
all of them, and a couple of people have acknowledged
my response and grudgingly agreed. If the allegation is that
this program, whether you're on or not, has not discussed
in depth, frequently defeeding our future scandal and several other
(29:20):
scandals in the state of Minnesota, to the point where
one of the T shirt possibilities we had for the
State Fair was Land of ten thousand Scandals. Yes, then
you're you're you're living in that that that make believe
world where you want to lash out and pretend that
that subject is being ignored. As I mentioned, Andy Lueger
is going to be back on it tomorrow, and he's
been front and center through all of this stuff. So
(29:43):
we've had plenty because the text we're getting kind of is,
I guess you don't want to have Kessler comment on
the billions of dollars a fraud committed by the Somali
Where have you my community as Somali community. It's rationale
for targeting these individuals. Now here's the problem with that.
You're not asking if you were asking that those individuals
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responsible for crimes would be would be targeted by the
FEDS in this case, starting with Andy Lueger, and that
was a Joe Thompson afterwards, Yep, you'd say, yeah, that's
what you do. The issue is in front of us is.
Many of the texts are well on the basis of
that story in which there was there were many Somalis involved.
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As a New York Times story laid out with a
couple of interesting quotes, means that everybody with any Samalian
connections get.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Them out of here.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
That's madness, that's stupidity. That's for me, insanity, And in fact,
I think it damages the case in going after the
individuals responsible for stealing millions and millions into probably, you know,
eventually billions of dollars. So I don't think that should
be that difficult to be able to separate those two issues,
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but for a lot of people it's impossible.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Well, a couple of things can be true at once.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Number one, for those who are just waking up to
this story now since it was on the front page
of the New York Times and then the County Highway
the Christopher RUFO website. For those of you who are
just waking up to it, Minnesota media and this program
have done hundreds of stories about this over the years.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
So that is true.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
But something else could also be true. And this is
something that you kind of got to get at. Why
is this fraud still happening. What is it about this
that allows this fraud to continue happening? And is there
something endemic in our state government? And I don't think
that story has really now we haven't really gotten to that.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Is it because we.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Are all in this state such super liberals, lefties that
we don't want to offend the Somalis or people of color.
That has been suggested is because the Somalis come from
a lawless country refuge here, and the President suggests that maybe.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
That's part of it. I mean, what is it, right?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I still still a story to be done.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You're right?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I mean so that too, yes, But finally that has
nothing to do with people of color from Somalia being garbage,
as the President is saying, So all of these things
can be true, and all of our listeners and we're
all smart enough, we can we can have some nuance here,
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should be able to say some stuff is real and
something else can be real. At the same time, I
don't think we've gotten to the bottom of why all
this happened.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Oh well, I think that's a good story.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Andy has talked about it before. I do think a
component of it was there was great fear the time
story suggested, well, these are democratic votes that we might
be losing. That's another thing that needs to be explored.
And part of it was as soon as some of
the pushbacks started, there was a concern about, well, I'm
going to be branded, despite my blue blood politically as
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a racist. Yes, if we go after this, and as
Luger has said, you have to dismiss that on the
you cannot be cowed by that because in the end,
a lot of people who needed these services and help,
and many of them may have been people of color, lose.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
So one of the things about this, and that's absolutely true,
do we get to the part where we didn't want
to investigate this as state government because of that, And
in fact, we talked a few weeks ago about there
is some evidence that the Democrats actively kept this from
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being heard in the Minnesota legislature and committees. I was
startled by the Minnesota Watchdog legislative auditor who said this
in the Star Tribune.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
So there are many, many different parts of it.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I still think there's little or no evidence, as one
of these stories is saying that the money from feeding
our few future ended up with al Shabob, the terrorist.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
No evidence, but about it again. Let's see it exactly, and.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
The I gotta believe the Feds somebody as capable as
Joe Thompson, uh Andy Lueger or the current US Attorney
Rosen if that was there, they would prosecute that. I
gotta believe it. But if I'd love to see if
that's actually true.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's all very true. So you're on your way to
Golden Gopher to the barn?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Why not? Why not?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Guards of your minds us that we lost our point
guard right he's out for the season.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
We're down to is it? Seven players?
Speaker 5 (34:37):
We don't deserve anything? Apparently, we don't think. Yeah, well
I got that alone, I alone.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
The three of us have it?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Are you a barn loft guy?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Much better? I figured, you know, why don't you be?
Why don't I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
What's I think it's btn take your wallet, retrieve it
from the bottom of the Dame of Cosca and that's cheap.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And just to spend a little money on some basketball tickets?
How about that?
Speaker 5 (35:10):
No?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Would that work for you?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That's the answer. I think PJ said it.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
No, I'm not going to do that. That's so good.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
That is so I'm going to save my money for
which ball are you you rooting for? Well, I want
a warm Weather Bowl. I'm asking Guardan. I'm rooting for Vegas.
But they're not going to get it.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I would.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
They'll be back in Arizona, Arizona. How about New York?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
How about the That's a possibility, but I don't think
they're going to end up there, and we don't have to.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
You have to about to Detroit, right, correct? We don't
want New York. I've been there, I know you. But
no warm Weather. That's that that would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You would take well, it doesn't matter if you go.
You'll end up ditching Guardia anyway once you get it
means nothing to me.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Going to the Bowl against on the list.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
It's just.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
In New York, remember that.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I don't or it came to the TV show. We
had one segment left. I was looking forward to having
a drink with you guys after and you left where
and I were talking in the bar in New York.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
I don't know. That's fake, just god fake fact in fiction.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
As Mace, that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Piggy there it is all right.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
We're today for a Golden Gopher men's basketball action Indiana
in town to take on the Golden Gophers. We are
back tomorrow, beginning at three o'clock, and we certainly certainly
will hope that you will join us. Then.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Cassie is in the house. He will join us probably
after the top five at five. We're out at six
four Golden Gopher Men's basketball. Thanks Mae. We'll see you
next week. What do you got, Guardie?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Donovan Jackson did not participate in practice today. He has
an ankle injury. Levi Drake Rodriguez. He must have heard
his neck yesterday talking with us. He did not participate
with a neck injury today. Jonathan Allen didn't. That was
not injury related. He gets to rest.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You think it is because he had to crane his
neck in my direction. I was like to his amazing right,
and he got like a you know, kink in your
neck from like extending it too far.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You should have done what Seaffert didn't, just completely turn
his back to me.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
He's mad at you about that, by the way, Why well,
because you were You made it sound like he he
took it as an insult. The thing you said, I
think it's Kevin Seaffert, you know, Life of a Producer. Yeah,
and so he was like, wow, you know, I think
he's a little down about it. I mean he might
want to here's the thing. He's not used to it
because he never comes to the State Fair. That's a
continuation of the State Fairs series.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
And I forgot to bring that up though you still
haven't a weird alse the ultimate test, Yeah, the Weird House.
So we'll do that next week.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But that's the because, as you know, where I sit
at the State Fair was essentially where I sat yesterday
to your left.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yes, that's true.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
One chair over, two chairs over, and every guest that
we have just turns and stares at you, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It's get yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Do life is a producer and it happens every single day.
Kessler actually sometimes fans out and stands. He does, he's
got to move a little. Actually, he's the one guy
that really hasn't been part of Life of a Producer.
But Seafer is just not used to it.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Because as I'm sitting there, I said, I feel like
I'm back in Carousel Park. Yeah, I don't think he
necessarily meant it as a slight Nope, it's just a
continuation of just a brilliant bit over the years, the
life of a producer series, sitting in the.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
War question but waiting for it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, by the way, JJ McCarthy full correct? Did you
say that already? Well, he was actually limited, but it
had nothing to.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Do with injury.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Owe that coming, full participant, That's yeah, that's all, that's all.
I really was like able for sure. Well, I was
gonna say Brosmor was not limited as well. Would you
have had the conies to say that? Yeah, because that
won't affect how much I like him. Yeah, it's too
easy of a too easy of a line. But we
Darris saw it was full today too, by the way, also,
(02:31):
which is important.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes, by all accounts, McCarthy will start yes on Sunday
against Washington. And do we know whether Daniels starting or not.
Daniels's he was limited and practiced today. I'm glad you asked.
He was limited with his left elbow injury. So that's
the Vikings injury report.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
The wild one last night, one zero, the Great Wall
of Saint Paul, brilliant again four shutout in six games,
picking up right where he left off in December from
November when he won the Rookie of the Month award
and the Wolves won last night in overtime at the
All was difficult to play Smoothie King Arena.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
There are eight people in New Orleans. They were quiet,
They're a mess, and they obviously, uh, they're they're superstar
alleged superstar player. He's out again. Correcton Williams. Williams for
a couple of weeks, they it was a play with
your food game. And then I'll be honest, they they
would not have even wanted in the in the end
(03:29):
if not for a couple of steals one Orleans and yeah,
that's those are the things that opened the door. Yes,
I think Dante had one as well. And then Edwards
was terrific offensively. Defensively, he turned his head a couple
of times and gave up the layups. His offense is
(03:50):
getting better. What I like, what I do appreciate is
that we said with with Mike Connelly who joined at
three point thirty, that he with down two Wolves have
the ball one last chance at the end of regulation.
He goes straight to the basket and scores wide open,
and the stat that Johnny Athletic reminded us of is
that that's the first time in his career that he
(04:13):
has scored either a game time or a game winning
basket with three seconds or less to go in regulation
or ot which is eye opening. I think a little busy,
But part of I would argue the reason for that
is he doesn't do enough of what he did last night,
and it's not always easy to get to the hoop.
I get that, but to me, that's what I want
(04:34):
to see more go downhill. But his intermediate shot rit making,
I think is getting better. I do sense that he
is getting better and he's much more comfortable. It's clear
he's worked on that particular shot. But their defense was
a mess in the first half, and an even slightly
better team they would not have been able to come
back and steal that game.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
His finishing at the rim has gotten a lot better too,
that he's finishing in all kinds of different ways.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
He had one while they were making their run.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I think it was an overtime where he's on the
right side and he kind of eurosteps and then does.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Like a left hand.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, that's a nice on the very nice so smooth
uses the basket itself as the you know, to to
ward off the defender who goes back to the other
side of your correct Let's straddle and get to Kesler
because we're out at six. We are out at six o'clock.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And then when we come back, we'll ask rose bowl.
Guy's got a question for you that might be well,
actually I should add that Kessler himself would like it
as well. What does that mean? And then we'll get
to a bunch of other stuff before we wrap things
up at six for Golden Gopher men's basketball against undefeated
Indiana University. I wish the American media would take a
(05:41):
great look at the views that the people in conference
and find out how they call America or anti America, Kuessler.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Because people have got to know whether or not their
presidents are proper.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Tear down the dish wall. I did nothing wrong the
Minneapolis Airport cemetery. Y're no Jack Kennedy Kessler, and.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Now to help Dan break down all the tough questions
in politics. It's our own Kessler political Walk. I feel
like a supermodel, except like times ten, it's Channel fours
Mad Kessler with Dan Morero. I'm a fan.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Many of us are frustrated.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, we are. We're all very frustrated, are we not.
Kessler is indeed back with us, and we're out at six.
As I said, for go for hoop action as we
like to stay in the business. So you're on your
way to the You're going straight from FID to the banker.
Actually will first big ten game of the year, I
know against undefeated in two undefeated. Stuff with Indiana come
from the idea, I mean, honestly, goodness, it's real. There
(06:49):
are a million things for us to discuss, some of
them more significant than this. But I have to bring
this to your attention. And you may or may not
know about this, because I know you've had a very
very busy day. But it falls into the classification of
what are we doing. I'll read you the the a
couple paragraphs. President Trump said today that he would pardon.
(07:14):
This is one of several Representative Henry Quaar, Democrat of Texas,
who was awaiting trial in charges that he and his
wife had taken roughly six hundred thousand dollars worth of
bribes from an azar by Johnny Oil Company and a
Mexican bank. The charges against mister Quaar and his wife
(07:34):
Imelda filed last year in Houston, centered on accusations of
bribery and money laundering. Despite mister Quaar's political affiliation, mister
Trump has expressed public support for him. Why would that be, Well,
here's the quote the Trump social media platform on you know,
(07:56):
truth social whatever, Sleepy Joe went after the congressmen and
even the congressman's wonderful wife of Melda, simply for speaking
the truth. Henry, I don't know you, but you can
sleep well tonight. Your nightmares finally over. So, in effect,
what we have further confirmation of is if you support me,
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especially if you're a Democrat in this case having to
do with Biden era border policies, then I don't care
what you did. I don't care what you were convicted of.
I don't care who are what you stole from. You're
going to get a free pass. There's two or three
other examples just this week.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
It's happening that what you describe is happening daily.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
And here is what makes me very cynical. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
If you have more to read about it, that's plenty,
But here's what makes me really cynical. The Democrats were
distancing themselves from Quaar and he is announced after this
pardon that he in fact is going to run for reelection,
and Hakim Jeffery's the Democratic leaders like, hey, okay, we're
with yeah, So all is forgiven, all is forgotten. This
(09:04):
was an intensive investigation. The charges were serious enough that
the investigation revealed enough that they filed very serious charges
against him. And who knows where it was going to do,
but they have. He has been pardoned preemptively in his wife,
even before a trial, because he may or may not
(09:27):
have expressed some sympathy and support for the border policy
of President Trust.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So it took give me. I'll give you another example.
The is it pronounced genteel, David Genteel. The commutation Trump
issued to him wipes away all further fines and restitution.
He had been sentenced to seven years for his role
in a one point six billion dollar scheme that defrauded
thousands of investors. Prosecutors had been seeking as a result,
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fifteen point five million dollars in forfeiture. But as I
understand it, the way this is set up now there
restitutions off the table. Further fines are off that Tay
that's correct in that case.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That's why are we living in here now and we
haven't even begun to talk about then deformer Honduran president convicted,
indicted and convicted by United on what drug smuggling?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Wait a minute, I thought we were blowing drugs because
we don't might know other countries sending stuff to our
shores that are killing our kids.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
We have to talk about this.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
And why would did the President Trump say he's pardoning
the Honduran president. Well, it's because Joe Biden, he, according
to him, rigged the charges and he they went after
him aggressively. And so if anybody, if you're listening and
(11:00):
neither got some federal charge against you during the Biden administration,
you might as well put.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
In for it.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Now you got a shot.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
That's that's That one is the one that I don't
It's inexplicable to me. And there's a disconnect because I
think there was really substantial evidence that this Honduran president
was working with the drug cartels, taking massive bribes to
allow drugs to go through Honduras into the United States.
(11:27):
So no boat's getting blown up over there, for sure.
All right, let's get more local. That's really his pointing,
it's yeah, it's again.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, and the Trump folks in the audience, I'll
just say, we're just all I'm trying to do here
is follow the story. Don't don't shoot the messenger here
on these are real, These are these stories are happening
in real time. I can't I'm not making them unth
And at some point you go, well, that's a little curious,
isn't it, at the very least, even if you're a supporter.
(11:57):
But that's just me, all right. So let's get to
the brewing. It appears local story involving ICE and response
also I think from the Minneapolis Police Department. Bring us
up to date on where this story is and whether
we are headed for some serious confrontation.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I think this is very serious.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
What was about to happen in the United States, something
that President Trump in It's going to be happening in Minneapolis,
something that President Trump has been forecasting signaling for the
last few days. Let's go to the headline, about one
hundred ICE agents are going to be deployed to Minneapolis St.
Paul starting this week now today's Wednesday. It could happen
(12:43):
very very soon. It is an escalation of the president's
social media, on his true social and in the cabinet
meeting as recently as yesterday, with his language about Somali's
and Somali Minnesotans who are US citizens.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
He is going to go after them with ICE agents.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And this is possibly going to be a lot more
tumultuous than we expect. It has been in every city.
And by the way, these are blue cities right now,
Chicago here. He's going to New Orleans today, I think.
But he says about Somali's, they contribute nothing, their garbage.
I don't want him in our country. He calls ilhan
(13:29):
Omar garbage. I mean, startingly, startingly cruel language from a
president we already know. Have we become numb to some
of the crude and clumsy and cruel language, But this
was way beyond anything he has said before. So what's
happening is that the Chief of Police of Minneapolis and
(13:51):
the mayors of Minneapolis and Saint Paul Hell the press
conference yesterday in which the chief said, if you see
people pulling up in unmarked bands and masks and military
and they're not identified as law enforcement officer, what did
he say?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Dan call nine to one one, right, what is that
going to do? What is that going to do?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I think that probably that that may have the that
that may have the effect of escalating all of this
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
And I don't know if that means that Minneapolis police is.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That's what he's going to say. Has has the police
chief articulated? Then what the sequence would be?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
And so that's why we need to know because in Minnesota,
the policy in Minneapolis is that the Minneapolis police are
not here to aid in deportations and any kind of
immigration enforcement.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
They're not here for that.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
They're here to for crowd control. And in many other cities,
and I expect to see this in Minneapolis. People are
going to converge upon these scenes. But he makes an
interesting point that you can make here in the Twin
Cities and you can't in other cities, and that is
that we have a history of people impersonating police, knocking
(15:05):
on doors and then murdering residents inside a La Melissa
Hortman and her husband Mark, and then shooting the Hoffman's
the senator and his wife. So what's going to happen here?
We don't know why is this happening. It's been escalating
for a few days. He's in a serious feud with
(15:28):
Governor Tim Waltz, whom he called the R word. That
is shockingly insulting for people with disabilities and for families
like the Walls family who has a special need son,
many families, including my own, who have special needs, the
(15:49):
family members. This is what has happened, and that escalated
then with the National Guard shooting in Washington, which was horrible,
a terrible, ugly thing that happened, and it was an
Afghan refugee who was granted asylum in the United States.
(16:10):
That's where the floodgates opened with President Trump where he
is going to escalate this, leveraging this to do what
he has promised to do, shut down pretty much immigration
to the United States except for white Afrikaaners from South Africa.
He is talking about with Somali Minnesotan's, maybe we should
(16:31):
denaturalize them. We have eighty thousand Somalis here, most of
them and I can't give you the percentage, but most
of them are American citizens.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
And what do you do?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
They will focus on two three four hundred Somalis who
either are targeted for deportation or have temporary protective status those,
I think is where you're going to see a lot
of the action here, but it's going to be ugly
and it's all mixed up in the fraud that you
and I have been talking about forever, Yeah, for a
couple of years, because he says, the Somalis are ripping
(17:05):
off Minnesota and it's the Somalis.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
All right, let's break, We'll get We have lots more
time to get back more on this story, and I
want a couple of other want to cover a couple
of the other stories with Pat Kessler. After a very
brief pause, stay time.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Final segment of the show, presented by American Pressure commercial
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Speaker 2 (17:36):
It's the Bumper to Bumper show wrap. Kessler is in
the house. Think of this commitment to the bit. He
is going over to the barn immediately afterwards. Games starts
to start at six. He's gonna be with us to
(17:57):
like whatever five point fifty four or whatever. We're actually
out of here. And yet he's not leaving early. Now.
He did confirm to me, oh that he might have
a quote unquote privileged special entrance. Why just assume he's
doing the valet parking tonight.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I would. I would say no, I would say say it,
but would you mean it? I would? I have my No,
it's even better than Valet parking. I have a next
to the US.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
True, you have great parking. Yes, so what's freaky? Doing?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
It does make it a lot easier.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
It makes it a lot easier when you know when
the snowstorm is there, the blizzard, and you know, okay,
why don't you just buy some tickets? I mean that's
what I did. I pay for this privilege.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
You know, I'm not sure you did you actually buy
the tickets?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Come on, coy, yeah, season ticket. Older man.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
You and Michelle calm Helgan, it has it stop bad?
And they were in the news the other day.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
What was the story? They weren't it was great public service,
was I'm not?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You know?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
And and then you drive, then you drag the family
into it. Look at you.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well the subject came up again recently. I wanted to
go about it. Somebody did you might have been Dan Minnesota,
might have had something anniversary.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
One ticket away to a family member and a top politician,
and that's all they remember.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
You let Hank get a hot dog in the Norseman
suite because it was Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I mean, come on, you have to get fired.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
And then this is the finest stadium and she built it,
uh in the United States and the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Right there does Chris Maddele, who I know reasonably well,
who has thrown his hat into the ring on the
Republican side stand without you know, as far as we know,
any political history or any experience running for anything. Is
it the kind of election year cycle where where anything's
(20:01):
possible given he does, in one sense have a fairly
high profile. But I'm just trying to figure out does
he have any chance or is he kidding himself throwing
his hat into the ring.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
No. I think he is a formidable candidate with a
slate of people supporting him that are going to be
it's going to be really interesting. He'll do law and order.
He has the support of the police. I think the
Minneapolis Police Federation has endorsed him. He is well known
as a prosecutor who's very, very tough, including on crime,
(20:37):
and so yeah, I think he is going to be
a formidable candidate, and he is going to prosecute the
case against Waltz in large part, I believe because of
the fraud, the hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud
that I think leave Governor Waltz very vulnerable to a
(20:57):
Republican of challenge or a Republican opponent. Yeah, I think
Mattel is absolutely somebody who can make waves and make
a difference in this race. They're gonna have to fight
over the mega wing of the party. Well, that's well,
I've already seen who is the Republican.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
There is a Republican I don't know if he's a
state Senator or state rep who has already said he's
already dismissed Mattel. Do you know how? You know why
I've here about this? The basis was he has contributed
to Democrats in the past and really has been a
quasi Democrat until this year. And I'm thinking to myself,
(21:36):
can you be that stupid? You're in a blue state.
Do you want to have an actual chance to win?
If you do, you got you have to cease with
these stupid purity tests, because you can be pure. But
I'm just telling you, in a state of Minnesota, you're
never gonna win a significant office again.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
And I think when you're in in a position like
Chris Maddel is ye, navigating all sorts of attorney.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
You know who else one of my favorite people who
has contributed to Republicans and Democrats. O your guy, Donald Trump,
Donald back in the death contributed tens of thousands of
dollars to Democrats. But one other thing, It's going to
be a fight over the Mega wing, the farthest right
of the Minnesota Republican Party. And you see who's filed
(22:27):
papers to run today. Another one of our favorite, our
show favorite, you're my pillow guy might well.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
You know I say, don't don't dismiss that.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I am dismissing. I'm not dismissing them. That could be
he has no chance to win. That could have an
effect on everything on the people. The person that the
Republican Party nominates, yes or endorses.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Who knows.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
When you have five ten people in a in a primary,
who knows which way it's going to go? Because I
think party endorsements are not worth much anymore this year
so or anymore after this year. So yeah, I mean
there's going to be a lot of people trying to
claim the endorsement of the Maga wing of the party,
(23:18):
although they have to walk a tight rope and thread
the needle here because they don't want to say, yeah,
I really am a Trump guy. Yeah in Minnesota, you
just you know, that's one of the things that might help.
So you go.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What they're going to do is go after walls. And
I think there's a lot to go after. Well, that's
the thing, there is room there. I thought he was
not impressive at all on was it Meet the Press?
I didn't think I thought he was way too defensive.
Now and that segment he made it sound like, well,
I'm the law order guy. They're going to jail because
it's like, well, we had nothing to do with.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
That part of this is the thing. Pardon me for anyrupment, but.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
When does Governor Waltz clearly accept responsible build.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It at some level at least?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean that. Yeah,
I mean, we really mess this up somehow.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
And although yes, there have been prosecutions, Yes, there have
been court cases, and I think thirty seven Minnesota Somalis
have been pled guilty or been convicted. I mean, at
some point Minnesota has to reckon with what has happened
(24:28):
over the last couple of years here and so far,
I don't think the Democrats have really done it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
By the way, Andy Lueger is going to be back
in studio with us tomorrow. The original plan was Tuesday,
and then I had to be reminded that Tuesdays Yesterday's
are to Toys for Tots Day. So Luger is going
to be in studio tomorrow. A lot of discussion about
New York questions. Yeah, yes, there's a lot to discuss
with them.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
A lot well, talking about the good news is that, hey,
Minnesota's on the front page of the New York Times,
and a lot of bad news is.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
About how bad we are.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
A lot of it has been reported locally, so this
was sort of the national perspective on although there were
some interesting quotes in there that are extremely damning. There's
no question about that. So we'll see exactly where that
where that goes. You know, it was within just the
last how many weeks ago was it that tepaw was
on with my former partner Hartman Chad and basically said, yeah,
(25:27):
there's a lot of you know, there are a lot
of Republicans. I know that they want me to run,
but I I'm not an idiot. I will not be
accepted by the current Republican Party in the state of Minnesota.
And as long as that's the case, I got nowhere
to go. And we've kind of talked about this before.
(25:47):
And look, you don't have to love Temple Lenti, you
know you really don't. And you could say, well, he's
not conservative enough for me, whatever you want to say,
but I'm still stunned. I guess that the political the
report publican political operatives in this state, just from a
practical standpoint, say we want to get in there or not,
(26:08):
and if we do, then he represents exactly the section
of the party that we need to emphasize again or
to reintroduce. Maybe and maybe that's incompatible with in a
maga world. Maybe that's the bottom line is the two
sides won't look but cannot coexist. But he has as
much said, and he ain't exactly a lefty Tepau.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Has said absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I can't. I can't win here. I can't.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
This isn't this isn't me, this isn't I'm not going
to do the ideological purity test that you're looking for
or get into some of the social issues that I
don't think are are worthy of our time. But that,
to me continues to be the essential question within this
state about the Republican Party. Is there anybody mature enough
to say I want to win and if that means
(26:58):
I have to quote unquote compromise a little of my maganus,
I'd rather do that. And to me, I don't know,
maybe Tipa wouldn't win anyway after the fact. Now maybe
it's too far past him, but what he represents is
exactly where to me the party has to go, because,
as you said, I think deep down there's a lot
of Democrats who wish that Walls was not running. That's
(27:19):
absolutely true, and there's never there's never been I think,
greater vulnerability for a lot of reasons. But you're back
to are you gonna if you can't capitalize on this now,
I don't know that you're ever going to have a
better chance.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Well, for those who don't know or have forgotten, the
Governor Polenti, Tim Polenti is the last Republican to win
statewide in the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
How many years was that? Twenty years ago?
Speaker 5 (27:44):
And the last state wide winner, and he states something
that is absolutely true that the cont the party has
been taken over by Trump supporters and mega but there
is absolute room for someone who is a moderate who
can and he's thread the needle very very well, supporting
(28:05):
trumps policies and gently pushing back when he had to
against some of the craziness coming out of Washington. Somebody
who can gain the moderate Republicans, a lot of the Independents,
and perhaps some more conservative Democrats. But the guy knows
how to count, he knows what's up, what the real
(28:27):
story is, So he would be somebody who would be kind.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Of interesting to run for the United States Senate.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
I do think Republicans have some people like him, if
they can unchain themselves and somehow appease the right wing
of the party and yet appeal to the independence and
moderate Democrats. That's the only way you're going to win,
because all the Democrats, all the votes, most of the
votes are in Duluth, twin cities, Rochester, and that's where
(28:55):
the votes are.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Got to get them six or five. I had a
bunch of attacks. I've responded to some them, but not
all of them, and a couple of people have acknowledged
my response and grudgingly agreed. If the allegation is that
this program, whether you're on or not, has not discussed
in depth, frequently defeeding our future scandal and several other
(29:20):
scandals in the state of Minnesota, to the point where
one of the T shirt possibilities we had for the
State Fair was Land of ten thousand Scandals. Yes, then
you're you're you're living in that that that make believe
world where you want to lash out and pretend that
that subject is being ignored. As I mentioned, Andy Lueger
is going to be back on it tomorrow, and he's
been front and center through all of this stuff. So
(29:43):
we've had plenty because the text we're getting kind of is,
I guess you don't want to have Kessler comment on
the billions of dollars a fraud committed by the Somali
Where have you my community as Somali community. It's rationale
for targeting these individuals. Now here's the problem with that.
You're not asking if you were asking that those individuals
(30:06):
responsible for crimes would be would be targeted by the
FEDS in this case, starting with Andy Lueger, and that
was a Joe Thompson afterwards, Yep, you'd say, yeah, that's
what you do. The issue is in front of us is.
Many of the texts are well on the basis of
that story in which there was there were many Somalis involved.
(30:27):
As a New York Times story laid out with a
couple of interesting quotes, means that everybody with any Samalian
connections get.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Them out of here.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
That's madness, that's stupidity. That's for me, insanity, And in fact,
I think it damages the case in going after the
individuals responsible for stealing millions and millions into probably, you know,
eventually billions of dollars. So I don't think that should
be that difficult to be able to separate those two issues,
(30:57):
but for a lot of people it's impossible.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Well, a couple of things can be true at once.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Number one, for those who are just waking up to
this story now since it was on the front page
of the New York Times and then the County Highway
the Christopher RUFO website. For those of you who are
just waking up to it, Minnesota media and this program
have done hundreds of stories about this over the years.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
So that is true.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
But something else could also be true. And this is
something that you kind of got to get at. Why
is this fraud still happening. What is it about this
that allows this fraud to continue happening? And is there
something endemic in our state government? And I don't think
that story has really now we haven't really gotten to that.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Is it because we.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
Are all in this state such super liberals, lefties that
we don't want to offend the Somalis or people of color.
That has been suggested is because the Somalis come from
a lawless country refuge here, and the President suggests that maybe.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
That's part of it. I mean, what is it, right?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I still still a story to be done.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You're right?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I mean so that too, yes, But finally that has
nothing to do with people of color from Somalia being garbage,
as the President is saying, So all of these things
can be true, and all of our listeners and we're
all smart enough, we can we can have some nuance here,
(32:32):
should be able to say some stuff is real and
something else can be real. At the same time, I
don't think we've gotten to the bottom of why all
this happened.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Oh well, I think that's a good story.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Andy has talked about it before. I do think a
component of it was there was great fear the time
story suggested, well, these are democratic votes that we might
be losing. That's another thing that needs to be explored.
And part of it was as soon as some of
the pushbacks started, there was a concern about, well, I'm
going to be branded, despite my blue blood politically as
(33:03):
a racist. Yes, if we go after this, and as
Luger has said, you have to dismiss that on the
you cannot be cowed by that because in the end,
a lot of people who needed these services and help,
and many of them may have been people of color, lose.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
So one of the things about this, and that's absolutely true,
do we get to the part where we didn't want
to investigate this as state government because of that, And
in fact, we talked a few weeks ago about there
is some evidence that the Democrats actively kept this from
(33:42):
being heard in the Minnesota legislature and committees. I was
startled by the Minnesota Watchdog legislative auditor who said this
in the Star Tribune.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
So there are many, many different parts of it.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
I still think there's little or no evidence, as one
of these stories is saying that the money from feeding
our few future ended up with al Shabob, the terrorist.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
No evidence, but about it again. Let's see it exactly, and.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
The I gotta believe the Feds somebody as capable as
Joe Thompson, uh Andy Lueger or the current US Attorney
Rosen if that was there, they would prosecute that. I
gotta believe it. But if I'd love to see if
that's actually true.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That's all very true. So you're on your way to
Golden Gopher to the barn?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Why not? Why not?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Guards of your minds us that we lost our point
guard right he's out for the season.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
We're down to is it? Seven players?
Speaker 5 (34:37):
We don't deserve anything? Apparently, we don't think. Yeah, well
I got that alone, I alone.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
The three of us have it?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Are you a barn loft guy?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Much better? I figured, you know, why don't you be?
Why don't I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
What's I think it's btn take your wallet, retrieve it
from the bottom of the Dame of Cosca and that's cheap.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And just to spend a little money on some basketball tickets?
How about that?
Speaker 5 (35:10):
No?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Would that work for you?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That's the answer. I think PJ said it.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
No, I'm not going to do that. That's so good.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
That is so I'm going to save my money for
which ball are you you rooting for? Well, I want
a warm Weather Bowl. I'm asking Guardan. I'm rooting for Vegas.
But they're not going to get it.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I would.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
They'll be back in Arizona, Arizona. How about New York?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
How about the That's a possibility, but I don't think
they're going to end up there, and we don't have to.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
You have to about to Detroit, right, correct? We don't
want New York. I've been there, I know you. But
no warm Weather. That's that that would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
You would take well, it doesn't matter if you go.
You'll end up ditching Guardia anyway once you get it
means nothing to me.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Going to the Bowl against on the list.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
It's just.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
In New York, remember that.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I don't or it came to the TV show. We
had one segment left. I was looking forward to having
a drink with you guys after and you left where
and I were talking in the bar in New York.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
I don't know. That's fake, just god fake fact in fiction.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
As Mace, that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Piggy there it is all right.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
We're today for a Golden Gopher men's basketball action Indiana
in town to take on the Golden Gophers. We are
back tomorrow, beginning at three o'clock, and we certainly certainly
will hope that you will join us. Then.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I'm incredibly humble, little knidbits. Johnson
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