December 4, 2025 • 43 mins
Dan Barreiro opens the show examining the bizarre reporting surrounding the Twins offseason "plans" before discussing some Williams Arena magic last night with the Gophers upsetting Indiana and some mini-ranting about the rhetoric coming out of Vikings practice this week regarding the JJ McCarthy development.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Dias. You're making it up as they go along, Leader
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Network, Frustrated and Kate fa n dot com. Two minutes
two seconds past the hour of three o'clock Central Standard Time,
Welcome back Thursday, production of the often combustible, occasionally controversial
Bumper to Bumper program on a rather chili fri a
Thursday afternoon here in the Twin cities of Minneapolis and
(00:36):
Saint Paul. My name is Dan Barrero. I host the program,
guards he produces the show. Did we blow it? From
a production standpoint? Not naming the first snow nomie of
the year?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Now, inches did we get?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I think officially didn't we get like five inches of snow?
Maybe that's enough for a Snownomie. I mean in some
years when it was consored, we had two inch snownomies
that we named.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Less than that. Yeah, you probably right to that. Yeah
we had. We had to please a sponsor. I don't know,
I'm just asking.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean, I my gut tells me you did not
want to encourage it because you didn't want it to
be Snownamie Brosmer.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, when did what snow storm are we talking about?
Because it's snowed the other we had one like a
week ago. I was gone, so that I know that's
what made it complicated. I wasn't really paying attention. Now,
is it too late?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Is the statue of tsunami limitations up to where we
might as well just wait for the next one and
not try.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
To force it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I do know that our nominees available, there's a button list,
an abundant list. Our SAMI correspondent Ryan Donaldson is available.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
He's very good at it. Yeah, that's good to know,
So we'll tell us. We'll take that under invisement. We
are here until six o'clock tonight out I'm assuming for
Vikings programming, and then we've got eventually Minnesota waild to hockey.
I think pregame is seven forty five tonight. It's an
eight o'clock they're in Calgary seven.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
There's no reason. It's why I shouldn't be a full
thirty minute pregame show. But I don't think Fallness wants
to work that hard.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He wants to do a two hour long postgame show
and pregame he's not interested in.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It doesn't make much sense to me. It doesn't make
any sense to me as well. He's an interesting fellow.
I Austin, writes Austin and Apple Valley rights eight inches
of snow in Burnsville and eighteen inches in Apple Valley.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I've stumping someone again.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
The show will never be Do you think enough people
understand that they do right well for us?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
We do. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's still funny.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, we got to get that graphic from Fox nine
that was so good. Apple Valley digs out. They're still
mad at us about that. I don't know if we
want to rear and then you're not gonna get that.
If you if you keep going too far in that,
you're not gonna get You're not gonna get your shoes.
My shoes. Yeah, did you go and get your shoes?
And I didn't go to get my I couldn't either today,
no time. So we're busy.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I mean, there's these things to do. And they text says, hey,
shoes tomorrow. Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think you can order him online. Actually we can
tell somebody. We can get a pair of people are
interested in any case. We we're done at six and
we got three outstanding guests today. Sean Salisbury has scheduled
for the bottom of this hour three point thirty, and
Andy Lueger will stop by for the entire four o'clock hour.
Here's this is gonna be the hard part with the
former US attorney. He wants to talk nothing but vikes.
(03:25):
Oh really, Yes, he's a football rule we used to play.
But he thinks he has all the answers of what
the Vikings need to do the rest of this season.
So but I don't want to Maybe it's better to
start with it, to get it out of the way
and get out of his system. But I don't want
it to extend into like hours two, three, and four.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Here's the cheap shot that you can open with. Yeah,
that he'll get because he went to Amhurst right, Amherst College,
very fashionable college.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
At least that's correct. He'll he'll correct us if that's incorrect.
So he played football at Amherst. O line, didn't he?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I think line that particular college conference does not allow
their players, at least they didn't when my friends played
in that conference a football postseason. So like my buddy
who played at Trinity Right at these dominant regular seasons,
they'd be like nine to oh and they couldn't play
Whitewater in the D three playoffs because there was no
(04:22):
such thing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Wow, so you.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So workshopping a little bit like your club has something
in common with the vikings no playoffs.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I think he'd like that. He's sensitive, he's a he's a.
He's he's basically, you're with us, you're against us on
the vikings.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, interesting should know that. We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I have to let him in probably at three forty
or so, you're talking to Salisbury, so I'll workshop it
with him.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Russo Radio schedule for five oh two, Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yes, sir, he's not with the club in Calgary, but
he's as I told him, you're always Russo Radio.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, No matter where, that partner never changes. So we
got a lot to get to above and beyond the
guest lineup as well. And I'm not gonna, I guess
pretend that I intended to start the program with the
making it up as we go.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Along, But.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'm looking at a headline you're familiar with, bring me
the Sports.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yes, okay, Well, via SI dot com, they have a
story regarding the kind of previewing the Winter meetings, which
are not that far off at this point the baseball.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And here's the quote they highlight.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
From world class baseball reporter Kenny Rosenthal on the Twins
off season plan. Excuse me, I don't know that they
know what they're going to do.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
We know it's not good baseball. They're working through it. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'm not sure there's been a couple of sentences better
uttered that more forcefully and objectively and savagely explains everything
you need to know about the current condition of the
Minnesota Twins, because he's not saying, here's the complete quote,
there's not clarity yet on how they are going to
(06:24):
operate this offseason. And when I say there's not clarity,
I don't mean not clarity coming to reporters about their plans.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I mean clarity within their own organization. I don't know
that they know what they're going to do. They're working
through it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
What I was told this week is that they'll have
clarity by the winter meetings. Okay, it's probably a good
idea to have clarity by the winter meetings.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Now, look, we all can I think mock.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And ridicule the organizations that try too hard to lay
out their plans and to talk about beat their chests
constantly about the blueprint, the blueprint, and how much we've
plan and how much we've got and and a lot
of times it's it's empty nonsense.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Right, But.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
This, I mean, none of this surprises me. It's I guess,
further confirmation. But I'm going in all seriousness, boys and girls.
You know, my position has been, they do know what
their plan is. They just don't want to articulate it.
Because their plan is withdrawal. Their plan is contraction without
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contracting the team. There seems to be no reasonablieve anything
else so long as they have been unable to articulate
what the vision might be. And again I wouldn't make
as big a deal of this. It was some you know,
rube blogger who doesn't really even cover baseball, but is
(07:54):
you know, likes to get the hot takes going.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's Kenny Rosenthal.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, guys as plugged in as anybody, pretty good pedigree baseball, and.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I mean, if you're a player, maybe, if you maybe
we're past the point where, if you're a member of
this team, you go, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Is this real? Is this a real?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Is this a big league organization? Maybe you've already given
up that ghost.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm not exactly sure, but I still don't think it's
a particularly helpful look. It's certainly not an inspiring look,
is it when every day it's comments like these? And
by the way, uh, who is the national reporter Nightingale?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
No, was it no about Buxton? Oh it was yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh my goodness, it'll come to me in a minute,
A big time ball writer for I think ESPN confirming
what I thought I read in The Athletic a long
time ago that Buxton would might well be willing to
waive his no trade clause if indeed the Twins are
gonna just gut the thing even more than they gutted
it at the at the trade deadline. And so we
(09:01):
got that story looming. We've got the pictures, the story
that we talked about a few days ago from Nightingale Senior. Right, yep,
that the twins are mulling over which are the two
starting pitchers, if not both at the top of their rotation,
that they might trade away. I retweeted something indicating that
the Mets are intrigued.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They're sniffing around Joe.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Ryan, and I said, well, yeah, why wouldn't they I
mean it good picture under a great contractual situation right
now correct years.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
For a couple more years. I think it is so again,
I I mean, how.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Do they how there? Do you think when they get
in their meetings? How do they justify this approach other
than if it's literally well Joe won't tell us.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
That's I think what it has to be. How far
we have to go?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
And we still don't know the names of the minority investors.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
We still don't know that they exist.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The Commissioner insists that they do and say it's just
a matter of time, but we still don't have any
clarity on that either. So every time you think there's
no lower that the Twins organization from a credibility standpoint
can go, another story develops or evolves to say no,
they can go lower.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's just it's like a limbo bar.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's bizarre, and it's like they're serving it up on
a platter for snarky individuals like me. And is it
maybe I'm falling into the trap. Maybe after the winter meetings,
we're going to find out they're going to spend an
extra not only the thirty million that they took away.
A couple of years ago. They're going to spend an
extra thirty so they're.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Going to be sixty million above the payroll from when
they cut.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It by thirty million. That's possible. I don't know, Twins,
writes Randy in Duluth.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Twins have concepts of a plan. They will announce it
in two weeks. Concepts of a plan. Okay, Yeah, that's
good word salad there as well. Uh, Paul's knew the
plane in August when they got rid of half the team. Yeah,
I mean you could say they've sort of they haven't
hidden their their vision so far. But it's just the
way the quote was written from from Rosenthal. Again, I
(11:27):
just I don't know that they know what they're going
to do. They're working through it.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Can't you translate that to they don't know what they're
doing or they do know what they're doing. Well, yeah,
that's very true. I did get the email that Twins
Fest tickets are on sale today. If anybody's interested in
Twins Baseball dot com.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
God bless you.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
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I heard the Twins have a framework of a plan.
(12:18):
Twins are exploring the intent to create a plan.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
If a Twins trade a starter, can nine come and
pitch is wide base seems more appropriate off the mound
better than at the football field or on the football field.
Be a great year for a winter Twins caravan tour
with Lavelle driving.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
The bus. I've been at a winter caravan with levell
Have you really up in Elie?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah? Years and years ago.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Is there a backstory to that? It was just we
went up there at the PA and do Bay show.
It was one of their snowmobile events. I don't think
it was like the Twins Fest caravan deal. I don't
know Guard he was there, Rick Anderson was there. Lavelle
won like three grand, This goes fifty below zero, this
goes back away.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, this is probably oh seven Larry Mondela guy.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Does Dan have any more of that liquid mental clarity
he used to take that he could share with the
Twins front office and owners.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
What happened to your mental clarity?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You know right, I've kind of I've kind of lost
touch with the candles, the clogs and the mental the
organic mental clarity. I'm gonna have to look for that. Yeah,
take a look at at least somebody stole it. I
had it at my desk. It could be gone. Maybe
somebody tried to drink it around here. I rule nothing there.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I agree. If he if he knows who the.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Owners are, that is Larry Mondela guy continues, then they
can They can clearly see they are going to sell
off every major league ready player.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
All that's possibly true. Good news and bad news.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Good news is we can spread our wings a little
bit more between now and four. Bad news is that
means Sean Salisbury is apparently in some sort of travel
meat grinder, so he is not going to join us today.
Decent shot that we're gonna be able to squeeze him
in on the Friday Football Beast tomorrow, which has happened
before he.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Got a new gig. Did you see that Salisbury?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
No, I know he was interviewing with everybody because he
told us he say, hey, look suss coming. Yeah, it's
I don't know exactly what this he'll tell us, but
it seems like it's player development slash recruiting helper. Interesting,
like one of those companies. Well, you can tell he
loves that stuff. Oh yeah, he absolutely revels in that
sort of thing. So yeah, we'll talk to him about that,
(14:38):
hopefully tomorrow. Because the rule on the Bumper and Bumper
Show is better late Salisbury than no Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
There's a question about that.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
However, it does open the door a little bit to
talk about Rick Bosich's worst nightmare. Going to go for
men's basketball team right here on the fan ruined Bosich's
night such, of course, is my best friend from college huge,
I'm a hoosier root from Afar. I'm kind of if
(15:07):
I'm honest, in and out of it. He's never left
it and he is now that he's retired. Does nothing
but think Indiana sports, in Ana university sports and the
White Sox. And let's just say the Gophers ruined his
night last night at the Barn with what ended up
being not even a particularly I'm always in a blowout,
(15:28):
but it was not even a game that went right
down to the wire at all. First Big Ten game,
of course, under the tutelage of the new head coach,
a Nico Medven and I only I was chasing drugs
for my daughter. Well that doesn't sound very good way antibiotics.
(15:49):
She's under the weather. I didn't get to see very
much of it. I was in and out of the
car enough where I was listening to Grimmer on it
and only once her contact no file, no, no file.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I think it was what maybe twice.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Actually that was it, which is actually for listening for
like six minutes, was pretty pretty low.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But it looks to me.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So I texted Bosis, I said, so, what how do this?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
He said, they got crushed. Minnesota crushed the Hoosiers on
the boards. And I looked it up. Yeah, and he's right.
That's the story of the ballgame. And that's not good
news for your Hoosiers. No, no, well, they have been
apparently quite vulnerable by the way. This was their first
road game, although they were undefeated. Yeah, I think this
was actually their first one.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Courtney James John Thomas and Trevor Winter aren't walking through
that door for the Gophers. This yeries, But it seemed
like it was one of those games where all right,
all hands on deck.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
What do we got to lose.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Let's just let's just, as we say in the business,
out effort them. It was great forty to twenty five.
The rebounding advantage for the Gophers, and that included a
ten to five advance on the offensive boards. So to me, now,
there's other stats you can point to players that have
barely played coming in and contributing obviously pretty effectively. But
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he also thought that apparently we hit two late three
pointers in the first half that he also thought made
it the kind of game where the Gophers.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Are going, oh, hey, you're in this thing. We were
tired at the half in.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
A way that it, you know, Iniana might have gone
into the half of the six or seven point lead.
So all those things are good. I So I'm not
going to pretend I saw it. I'm not going to
pretend that I'm ready for the ad to give Nico
a contract extension.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yet.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Well, what I will say is what I think I
said when he was hired that in a sense, you
could argue it's not the most quote unquote exciting higher
or sexy higher. But the one advantage I thought he
represented was he doesn't have to learn to coach on
the job. And that's not even meant as a rip
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at Ben Johnson. That's just was the reality of the
Ben Johnson era. This guy's coached a while. He knows
how to be a head coach, and anyone who watches
the way he runs offense knows he knows how to
run an offense too.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
He knows how to build an offense.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And so to me, maybe this is the first sign
of this is at the very least, not a guy
that's gonna have to train on the job. Guy knows
how to he knows the game, he knows how to coach.
And look early, he told us this when we had
him at the State Fair.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I mean, you're looking.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
He's not.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
He's not naive. He I could see the upper deck
in the highlights. There was nobody there. He knows what
he's walked into here. And it's how it's gonna take.
It's gonna you're gonna have to win people over. But
let's face it, whatever INDI end ends up being, they're
a legitimate Big Ten school and you're they're your first
Big Ten game, and that's exactly the kind of game
you need to at least open the door to. Oh, Okay,
(19:02):
maybe there are some changes going on there. Maybe there
is something worth finally paying attention to there, even if
it's a long way from here to contending for Big
ten titles.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You would have loved how the game finished, because well,
first of all, they made most of their free throws,
which was helpful. That's been even probably even for them
the last couple of weeks and Indiana did not.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
A free throw line. Indiana shot sixty yeah, twelve for
twenty yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
But they made the shots at the end of the half,
and their defense was great, and you mentioned the rebounding disparity.
And then as they are getting into crunch time, they
run a couple of you know, just their regular offensive
sets and if you blink, the way that they do
the offense with bat cuts and reads and screens and everything,
if you screw something up and leave a guy open,
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guys are gonna make shots.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And they've got this.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
They've got this Bobby Durkin kid who looks like an
AI Jimmy Chitwood chat JPT. What does Jimmy Chitwood look
like twenty twenty five? This would be him, and he
found you know, some open looks. Obviously, Kate Tyson found
some open looks. Awesome mates. So they separated with like
four minutes left. Just on great offense as well as
(20:13):
great defense. It's not the usual even Robbie Hummel said
it on the broadcast. For both teams, there was there's
great movement, there's great cutting, there's great awareness. He goes,
it's not just a bunch of high ball screens, no,
which if you watch college basketball, that's what it's become.
So it was an entertaining game that way, because both
teams I thought ran good stuff like that. It was
(20:33):
an improbable and impressive victory.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Was very fun.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Again, the talent is thin, I think, especially when your
factor in the injuries most importantly, who is the porty
guard willis Yeah, who went.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Down for the year for the year now?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And and so I'm not sitting here saying we're that
now they're going to go undefeated in the Big Ten.
But I think the way to me this should be
evaluated is further reinforcing the notion that again they're not
in a position where, well, it's going to take this
coach some time to figure out the game and getting experience.
(21:11):
It takes any coach some time. He's past that. Now
it's gonna be can you get enough talent in a
very competitive conference? Can you keep it? All those ordinary things,
but not the game. The game he knows the way
to handle a team. He already knows, and you know
he's I think you can tell he carries himself with
(21:32):
that knowledge that, in fact, you can always make the
argument in some ways that you actually prove that at
lower levels of competition, and then at this level it's
you're in good shape if you can add the talent.
You know, if you can keep bringing the talent in
and not have to have eleven new bodies, you know,
eleven new bodies every year, which was kind of what
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we tended to go through in the Ben Johnson era in.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Terms of figuring things out. On the Coaches Show this week,
and we did the first Nico Coaches Show this week,
and I even joked at him. I said, we haven't
even gotten into your show yet, and you're already down
seven players. Like the show people barely even know your
season has started, and now we're already talking about all
these injuries. And as he was going through one of
it and talking about how they do things and how
we're going to practice, he actually straight upset. But and
(22:16):
I'm paraphrasing, I've been through this kind of stuff, right.
You figure it out, you do. You take a little
bit of it like no one's gonna feel bad for you.
That's what we're here for. And it was kind of refreshing. Yeah,
it was a hundred percent. Of course, I'm sure he's
frustrated he doesn't have enough bodies, but I like that
approach that he just said to everybody that was there,
a buffalo wild wings, I've done this before, we'll do it.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
We'll figure it out. And that's an advantage.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And I that's why the minute the decision was made,
I just thought the Big Ten shouldn't be a conference
in which you have you're forced to go with a coach,
even if he's got a chance to be good to
learn about being a head coach on the job. It
just doesn't. It doesn't. I'm sure there are samples of
where it's worked, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
(23:02):
And I think that's to me what what Nico represented
and is it's a bonus that he's got history here.
I didn't think it was essential, but it's a bonus
because he has some context from which to work and
he comes in I think with his eyes open as well,
because he's been here when it was better and he's
observed it when obviously after the fall with Clem. It
(23:25):
got a lot worse. Hoosiers crushed, Bozich, flushed Nico, blushed
Wolves and thought Wolves are in action tonight it's the rematch.
It is Pelicans thought they let one get away last time,
so they might plant their feet.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
They'll be ready tonight. They'll be ready. Have no idea
who's playing for them, but they'll be ready. Is Ion back, No,
he's out for a while. Jonas is out now for
two to four. Well, not only that, you saw the
big media report, was it Scham's Yeah, he wants out.
He's already before the season. They talked at it apparently.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
So I'm trying to figure out is this is he
advancing the story where this is more active than before,
because obviously there'll be a lot of teams interested in him.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Here's what a team that makes no sense for me
being interested in Oki City?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Tell me what you think, because one of the speculation was, well,
if you look around the league, they're going to be
looking for draft picks, those and young players, those kinds
of resources. So the logical, a logical fit would be
Oklahoma City. Sure, And my comeback to that is, I'm
not sure why Oklahoma City it wouldn't even possibly explore it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
They wouldn't. It doesn't make any now. Again, they're not going.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
To be I don't think they're going to finish like
seventy eight and four.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's their current pace.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But they've got so many things going doing it the
way they're doing it, can you imagine, I mean, you
bring it a guy like that, top five player in
the league, A lot lot of things are going to
have to change and revolve around them.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So why why would so? I understand people saying, well,
they got the resources, so if.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You're Milwaukee, you'd like to talk to Yeah, for sure,
But I have no idea why they would go away
from the model that they have embraced so effectively. And so,
you know, I think almost historically, I just don't think
right now there's any other franchises that are kind of
doing it the way they're doing it. They have a
legitimate superstar, but it's one they sort of groomed themselves.
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It wasn't one that they had to go out and
get as already being established and who are you going
to give up? It doesn't make any sense, No, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Although I do kind of like the novelty of Jannis
going from a small market to an even smaller market.
That's true, because that's usually never happened before. Right when
you ever had anybody going to Oklahoma City as some
type of destination, even in speculation.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
No, they're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
By the way, as we continue the basketball conversation, much
to the chagrin of Kevin Falness, exactly that's what I
was going to get to. But there's already the Clippers.
I'm probably I've probably never been as appreciative of Chris
(26:07):
Paul's game as I should be when you factor in
the number of ball people I respect who say he's
an all time great.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
But I'm having a hard time.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Fostering up the suitable outrage that has been generated elsewhere
under the classification of how dare this organization get rid
of this point god legend in the middle of the night.
I'm sorry, I'm not that worked up over it a
because the only reason it was middle of the night
(26:40):
had to do with some flight delays. So this notion
that there's some we get I believe way too hung
up in the idea that there's a big distinction between
cutting a legendary player at two in the morning or
the following morning at nine am. Sorry, I just don't
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think it's that big of a deal in this case
had more to do with circumstances, and what I have
read and what I've continued to hear is Chris Paul
has been too much like Chris Paul there, and it's
no different than he ever was. The guy thinks he
is in charge of everything, wants to run everything. When
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you're a point god, you can get away with that, right.
People will tolerate that because you're really good at your job.
When you are an occasional bench player, they're not going
to have any tolerance for it.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
So I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Look, the Clippers have been their own worst enemy. But
I guess I'm having a hard time making that big
of a production or how dare they do that to
Chris Paul. Chris Paul knows the approach he takes, and
at some point I just can't lose any sleepover now.
The question I'm getting to is will he lands somewhere?
(27:59):
And if you're if you're a Wolves fan, do you
have any interest in Chris Paul?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I have none.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I don't think I do either, because again, I think
you've already got you know, a veteran older guy. Okay,
I'm not sure how much Chris Paul has left. And again,
we don't need the clubhouse lawyering if you're not going
to be a main player, right, I just it's just,
I just seasons are too long.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
There's enough, there are enough challenges there.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I just so I would be stunned if there's much
sniffing done by the Timberwolves, whatever they might do at
the point guard position, I will be surprised that Chris
Paul will land here.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I thought about it for about ten seconds. Would that
make sense?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
And I'll be honest, I haven't watched a lot of
Clippers on league pass this year, not want to make
to watch.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Well there they've been a mess. They have been. They're
old and not very good.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And who's the Miami Heat player they they Norman Powell
they traded to. I mean they in a sense exchanged
him for who's the injured guys with the Suns last
year's Season's already over the guard who used to be
with Washington. Oh, Bradley Bradley Beal. Yeah, that's the trade
in a sense they made. Beale is done. Paul's terrific.
(29:12):
So they've brought on some of their issues themselves. But
I just yeah, I don't. I don't know. So we'll
see because I do think and we even talked about
this with Mike Conley. He knows it comes with the territory.
The discussions are going to be ongoing, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Lastly, somebody said that there's an internet rumor and this
one makes absolutely zero sense that the Wolves are on
the verge of trading for Kevin Durant. Now I ask you,
have you checked the Houston Rockets start to the season
in their record, they're pretty good, they're fourteen, they're they're outstanding. Yeah,
(29:51):
they're the three seed right now. Let me see, Rockets
are gonna go. You know what, This isn't working out
for us. So we're only fourteen to five, and hey,
let's see if we can do.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
A favorite another team, not only well in the another
NBA team, but a team in our conference. Where does
this stuff come from? Do you have any Have you
heard that one? No, but I'm kind of curious. The
sights that you're visiting. Well, actually, I'm starting to worry
about it. I didn't visit it. It was it was
I wrote about it. Oh, did he he actually wrote
(30:20):
about it. I'm worried about his site. Well that could
be too, but I mean it's like it's durant.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Might have made sense when last trade deadline there was
talking to you, willing to come here and they couldn't
get it done then, and then in the summer it
was I don't want to go there. I want to
go to Houston.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
So tight gun melt tight.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There's ones that make kind of sense and some that
don't make much sense at all.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Let me get to a couple of texts. We'll go
to forty two.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Might as well, m yep, Tom Izzodean Smith, Roy Williams
for a few worked out okay, start the head coaching
careers in big basketball conferences.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, I mean it's it's not unprecedented.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
That's a fair Pointzo was Heathcote's guy for like fifty
years exactly, And I think that wasn't Roy Williams, Dean
Smiths guy. He was, yes, and then went to yeah.
So I again, I just think they were further along
in that regard. Somebody's asking about James Harden rumors.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I've raised the name before. I don't know if you
were on that day or not.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
We've talked about it, so and yeah, and it's it
sounds on one level. Let me back up and say,
I have no idea what the Clippers plans are moving forward.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
They're like the Twins.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I don't think I know James Harden would refuse to
show up here. I don't think he likes the cold.
Although he was in Philly, right, Yeah, wasn't Philly he
was for a while, was he?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah? I think he was.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
He's been everywhere pretty sure was in Philly, Houston, maybe
Philly in any case.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
But if if it's possible, do I think it's as
preposterous as I an idea to me as I initially
might have thought, no, even though it's like and it's
a hell of a flyer if you're going to do
something that would be very, very dramatic. But oddly I've
come to like this version of James Harden better than
(32:12):
previous versions. Now, the fatal flaw you could come back
with is yeah, but even in the playoffs, this new
version it's more of a distributor. Yes, he's fallen off
the edge of a table in some important game, so
I you know, we're a long way from here to there.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But they're gonna be They're gonna be a bunch of those.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I mean, I unless something gets stabilized here in that regard,
like out of nowhere. Tonight, Dillingham scores thirty five and
dishes for tennis sists.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Just everything clicks.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
He gets extra minutes because somebody is either hurt or
foul trouble, and it starts a trend where he's kind
of figured it out.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Barring that, I.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Just don't see, you know, the rest of the players,
of the rest of the players right in terms of
who's who can possibly run the show, so well have to.
We'll continue to monitor. You know, I haven't caught up
on the show in a while. We haven't had Sam
Mitchell on, so we should probably catch up with him.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You know. The interesting about Sam. Do you remember last
year Sam's.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Suggestion, which got dismissed by a lot of the insiders,
was what about making Nikhil Alexander Walker You're starting point guard?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, and some people thought it was crazy. Is it
a reach? He's played really well for Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
In fact, he's flourished without who's their main Their main
score has been out hurt Trey Young. He's played great
for them, so you know, will we will that be
the love we lost?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I don't know it's possible. He's averaging twenty a game
right now? Is he really? How about it? What's his
assist total?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Is he running it? Is he the lead guard? I
don't know that.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I would imagine, yes, twenty points three point five assists? Okay,
well that's not a huge number if you're but he's Yeah,
he's playing well and he can guard.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's the other thing. You know, we always knew it.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I mean, he's he is the two way player and
I'm not. You know again, I know we could. You
couldn't bring everybody back, But in any case, so a
lot of hoop talked there, very encouraging result at the Barn.
I have no idea what the crowd ended up being.
But again, I think when people looked at this schedule,
they go having big ten games early is gonna stink
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because they might get routed early, and then it's another
reason for people to look the other way. The beauty
of what they did last night is it goes the
other direction. I know they do have a very tough
they're at Purdue.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Is it next week? Next week? Produce Purdue they're number one.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
But I don't think anybody is going to lose their
minds if we go to Purdue and do not dominate.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
But we'll see.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Let's pause here. Sean Salisbury is going to join us
on tomorrow's show. Travel issues reared their head this afternoon,
so we hope to get Shawnee in tomorrow. We do
have Russo Radio at five o'clock and Andy Lueger, who
I think wants to talk more vikings than feeding our future.
He is scheduled in studio beginning at four.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
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Speaker 2 (36:05):
All right, Andy Luger is in the house. He's going
to join at the top of the hour. I was
just meeting him up at the vestibule. I hope I'm
not out of breath.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Turn Town, we still have it. We start Town we
still have it. Yeah, that's got an endate of like
year twenty twenty two to twenty. We're keeping that one forever.
Why wouldn't we? Right real quick, I can find this
is from Clayton in Rochester. What do the Twins even know?
(36:39):
Pablo Esco borero Twins hot stove is more like ten
below wolves and five people work hard for it, man,
they really really do work hard, watching Nikiel, Sam Darnold,
Daniel Jones doing so a lot of other teams like
scrolling Facebook and seeing an ex happy with someone way
(37:00):
better looking than you. It hurts. That's from Kyle in Iante.
But remember, as we talked about.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yesterday, we're on the right side of the great what's
his name?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Our new goaltender, what's the nickname?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
The Greywall of Saint Paul, who we acquired from some
smart draft day maneuvering, moving up a couple of spots
to steal him, assuming that he wasn't going to be
available if we waited till twenty two. I think we
moved up to twenty yep, and right now that looks
like a stroke of genius. So we are occasionally on
(37:37):
the other side of things. We do we must fairness
and savagery take that under consideration.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
We didn't.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I don't think discuss this in much detail yesterday, and
I don't even know if we had the sound or not.
But there's been some discussion reaction to a couple of
things that the quarterback whisper had to say, most recently
about his number one quarterback, by the way, who has
been completely cleared right, he's not a concussion protocol.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
He met the media today, and he met the media
today EyeBlack on.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I don't think he had any EyeBlack, but I didn't watch.
I did read a couple of things that piqued my interest. O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
It's purely about decision decision making at this point. I
want him to have a clear head and a clear
mind to just go play, but play with an understanding
of the decisions that I make have to be of
the utmost importance. Because we learned our turnover number is
where it is. It's not a winning formula. I don't
want him overthinking or worrying about if the fundamentals need
(38:36):
to be changed.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Let's just make the throws, Let's just throw and catch.
Let's just play with great rhythm and understanding of the plan.
Now last things that are easily correctable.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
That's kind of what Shaun Salisbury said to us a
week ago. Yes, almost word for word.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yes, it's it's it's still tricky, but because in a.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Sense it's sounds, it was cool to say just fling it.
But in truth, sometimes when quarterbacks do that, it gets
even worse because they can throw five picks.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
However, all of.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
These comments this week kind of come off as.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Maybe I put too much in the kid's head. So
then you're back to, well, should it have taken you
this long to figure it out? It's infuriating, isn't it
supposed to be?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Incrementally, you add those things after some success with more
fundamental and basic things, and then okay, now he might
be ready.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
For the next step. And then we're gonna add a
couple of wrinkles. But I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I don't want to have him thinking about that stuff
in the beginning, just because I got the big fat playbook.
How long have we been talking about bass balance ball
bros And Bahamas? I mean they were talking about his
posture in the pocket, you know, having he's got to
get better posture in the pocket. They're happening to do
all these things. Do you want to hear what JJ
said today? This one just no, you know, but it's
(39:58):
like it's along.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
The same line. OK.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
A lot of the mentality has changed, for sure. I
was so focused on doing every rep perfectly and making
sure every little detail was crossed and checked off. Coach
O'Connell and Coach McCown have talked to me like, hey,
let's worry about that stuff in the offseason. Go out there,
play your ball and execute the play. That frees up
a lot of space. Mentally, be instinctual, react and respond
to what the defense is giving me.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Well, but let me throw out another possibility. They are
making it up as they go along, As we talked
about with the Twins earlier. It's almost like, all right,
we've tried that approach and we are at least talking
publicly about it. So what are we left with, Well,
we'll go the other direction and that maybe that'll make
us sound smarter. And there's no guarantee that anything is
going to change quote unquote with this approach, or that
(40:45):
the approach itself is even going to really change.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
But you got to it's almost like, well, we can't keep.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Talking about that stuff, so we'll go to the other extreme.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yeah, maybe, I just know this is a first guest
at the time, we've talked about it, like you can't
and I know they hadn't. Well, they did play the
Packers here a minute ago, but like, you can't be
thinking about your posture when Michael Parsons is a second
and half behind you.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
You just can't. It's not working. You think about that
in the offseason.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
And even though when he was coming off the international
trip that goes all the way back to October, late September,
early October, the things they were talking about that they
were doing on the practice field just made no sense
like that they were And I know the reporters are
asking about it so because they're obsessed with the process
of whatever's going on with the with a QB development.
(41:34):
So I defend them a little bit there, but I just,
I mean, we've talked about this for two months now,
how it just felt like everything was cloudy, And that's
what Salisbury said. As a coach, my job is to
remove clutter, and I feel like the way they handled
JJ is like when my kids come in the house
and just throw their shoes in snow pants everywhere and it's.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Just all right there. And clutter means a couple of
different things to me. One is are you throwing too
much stuff in his head about base body balanced Brosmer.
But also are you putting too much on his play plate? Yes,
so to me it's a little bit of those. Both
can represent clutter. And that's the part that still slays
(42:16):
me is because it wasn't if what they're if they
believe what they're saying. Now, this is one hundred percent
confirmation of what we've been saying all along, which shouldn't
have been that.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Difficult to figure out from the beginning.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Corrects the thing with a young quarterback, because it's always
easier to.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Add, right, is it not?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I mean, just you build Okay, we got kept kind
of pedestrian and maybe not as wide ranging as we
like to use my playbook because of everything that's in there.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
But I it's a long season, it's a long career.
It's the idea is we're looking for some success. Uh,
We're looking for some continuity there and gain a little
confidence and then we can we can always add things
and then I'll eventually look pretty as the head coach again,
you know, I'll be fine. So it it's so clear
that there's been too much of an emphasis on the
(43:04):
wrong things almost from the beginning here.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Now, maybe his accuracy is so bad it won't matter.
It wouldn't have mattered, but it's hard not to sec
It's almost like they're asking on the basis of their
comments this week, they're begging us to second guests or
in this case, first guest first settle all along it
say well, this is exactly what we've been talking about,
all right, top of the hour pause, we will probably
(43:27):
talk some vikings for the next guest, because he's a
big time vikings rube, and though I know has a
lot on his mind regarding the JJ McCarthy saga. And
then we will get to a lot of different subjects
that are closer to home in terms of what he
once did as a couple of times. Minnesota US Attorney
(43:48):
for the State of Minnesota, Andy Lueger in studio questions
Bratshawn Brian Kfin text line that is six four six
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Saint Paul. My name is Dan Barrero. I host the program,
guards he produces the show. Did we blow it? From
a production standpoint? Not naming the first snow nomie of
the year?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Now, inches did we get?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I think officially didn't we get like five inches of snow?
Maybe that's enough for a Snownomie. I mean in some
years when it was consored, we had two inch snownomies
that we named.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Less than that. Yeah, you probably right to that. Yeah
we had. We had to please a sponsor. I don't know,
I'm just asking.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean, I my gut tells me you did not
want to encourage it because you didn't want it to
be Snownamie Brosmer.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, when did what snow storm are we talking about?
Because it's snowed the other we had one like a
week ago. I was gone, so that I know that's
what made it complicated. I wasn't really paying attention. Now,
is it too late?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Is the statue of tsunami limitations up to where we
might as well just wait for the next one and
not try.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
To force it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I do know that our nominees available, there's a button list,
an abundant list. Our SAMI correspondent Ryan Donaldson is available.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
He's very good at it. Yeah, that's good to know,
So we'll tell us. We'll take that under invisement. We
are here until six o'clock tonight out I'm assuming for
Vikings programming, and then we've got eventually Minnesota waild to hockey.
I think pregame is seven forty five tonight. It's an
eight o'clock they're in Calgary seven.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
There's no reason. It's why I shouldn't be a full
thirty minute pregame show. But I don't think Fallness wants
to work that hard.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
He wants to do a two hour long postgame show
and pregame he's not interested in.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It doesn't make much sense to me. It doesn't make
any sense to me as well. He's an interesting fellow.
I Austin, writes Austin and Apple Valley rights eight inches
of snow in Burnsville and eighteen inches in Apple Valley.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I've stumping someone again.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
The show will never be Do you think enough people
understand that they do right well for us?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
We do. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's still funny.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, we got to get that graphic from Fox nine
that was so good. Apple Valley digs out. They're still
mad at us about that. I don't know if we
want to rear and then you're not gonna get that.
If you if you keep going too far in that,
you're not gonna get You're not gonna get your shoes.
My shoes. Yeah, did you go and get your shoes?
And I didn't go to get my I couldn't either today,
no time. So we're busy.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I mean, there's these things to do. And they text says, hey,
shoes tomorrow. Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think you can order him online. Actually we can
tell somebody. We can get a pair of people are
interested in any case. We we're done at six and
we got three outstanding guests today. Sean Salisbury has scheduled
for the bottom of this hour three point thirty, and
Andy Lueger will stop by for the entire four o'clock hour.
Here's this is gonna be the hard part with the
former US attorney. He wants to talk nothing but vikes.
(03:25):
Oh really, Yes, he's a football rule we used to play.
But he thinks he has all the answers of what
the Vikings need to do the rest of this season.
So but I don't want to Maybe it's better to
start with it, to get it out of the way
and get out of his system. But I don't want
it to extend into like hours two, three, and four.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Here's the cheap shot that you can open with. Yeah,
that he'll get because he went to Amhurst right, Amherst College,
very fashionable college.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
At least that's correct. He'll he'll correct us if that's incorrect.
So he played football at Amherst. O line, didn't he?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I think line that particular college conference does not allow
their players, at least they didn't when my friends played
in that conference a football postseason. So like my buddy
who played at Trinity Right at these dominant regular seasons,
they'd be like nine to oh and they couldn't play
Whitewater in the D three playoffs because there was no
(04:22):
such thing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Wow, so you.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So workshopping a little bit like your club has something
in common with the vikings no playoffs.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I think he'd like that. He's sensitive, he's a he's a.
He's he's basically, you're with us, you're against us on
the vikings.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, interesting should know that. We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I have to let him in probably at three forty
or so, you're talking to Salisbury, so I'll workshop it
with him.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Russo Radio schedule for five oh two, Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yes, sir, he's not with the club in Calgary, but
he's as I told him, you're always Russo Radio.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, No matter where, that partner never changes. So we
got a lot to get to above and beyond the
guest lineup as well. And I'm not gonna, I guess
pretend that I intended to start the program with the
making it up as we go.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Along, But.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'm looking at a headline you're familiar with, bring me
the Sports.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yes, okay, Well, via SI dot com, they have a
story regarding the kind of previewing the Winter meetings, which
are not that far off at this point the baseball.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And here's the quote they highlight.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
From world class baseball reporter Kenny Rosenthal on the Twins
off season plan. Excuse me, I don't know that they
know what they're going to do.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
We know it's not good baseball. They're working through it. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'm not sure there's been a couple of sentences better
uttered that more forcefully and objectively and savagely explains everything
you need to know about the current condition of the
Minnesota Twins, because he's not saying, here's the complete quote,
there's not clarity yet on how they are going to
(06:24):
operate this offseason. And when I say there's not clarity,
I don't mean not clarity coming to reporters about their plans.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I mean clarity within their own organization. I don't know
that they know what they're going to do. They're working
through it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
What I was told this week is that they'll have
clarity by the winter meetings. Okay, it's probably a good
idea to have clarity by the winter meetings.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Now, look, we all can I think mock.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And ridicule the organizations that try too hard to lay
out their plans and to talk about beat their chests
constantly about the blueprint, the blueprint, and how much we've
plan and how much we've got and and a lot
of times it's it's empty nonsense.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Right, But.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
This, I mean, none of this surprises me. It's I guess,
further confirmation. But I'm going in all seriousness, boys and girls.
You know, my position has been, they do know what
their plan is. They just don't want to articulate it.
Because their plan is withdrawal. Their plan is contraction without
(07:31):
contracting the team. There seems to be no reasonablieve anything
else so long as they have been unable to articulate
what the vision might be. And again I wouldn't make
as big a deal of this. It was some you know,
rube blogger who doesn't really even cover baseball, but is
(07:54):
you know, likes to get the hot takes going.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It's Kenny Rosenthal.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, guys as plugged in as anybody, pretty good pedigree baseball, and.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I mean, if you're a player, maybe, if you maybe
we're past the point where, if you're a member of
this team, you go, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Is this real? Is this a real?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Is this a big league organization? Maybe you've already given
up that ghost.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm not exactly sure, but I still don't think it's
a particularly helpful look. It's certainly not an inspiring look,
is it when every day it's comments like these? And
by the way, uh, who is the national reporter Nightingale?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
No, was it no about Buxton? Oh it was yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh my goodness, it'll come to me in a minute,
A big time ball writer for I think ESPN confirming
what I thought I read in The Athletic a long
time ago that Buxton would might well be willing to
waive his no trade clause if indeed the Twins are
gonna just gut the thing even more than they gutted
it at the at the trade deadline. And so we
(09:01):
got that story looming. We've got the pictures, the story
that we talked about a few days ago from Nightingale Senior. Right, yep,
that the twins are mulling over which are the two
starting pitchers, if not both at the top of their rotation,
that they might trade away. I retweeted something indicating that
the Mets are intrigued.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They're sniffing around Joe.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Ryan, and I said, well, yeah, why wouldn't they I
mean it good picture under a great contractual situation right
now correct years.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
For a couple more years. I think it is so again,
I I mean, how.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Do they how there? Do you think when they get
in their meetings? How do they justify this approach other
than if it's literally well Joe won't tell us.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
That's I think what it has to be. How far
we have to go?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
And we still don't know the names of the minority investors.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
We still don't know that they exist.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The Commissioner insists that they do and say it's just
a matter of time, but we still don't have any
clarity on that either. So every time you think there's
no lower that the Twins organization from a credibility standpoint
can go, another story develops or evolves to say no,
they can go lower.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It's just it's like a limbo bar.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's bizarre, and it's like they're serving it up on
a platter for snarky individuals like me. And is it
maybe I'm falling into the trap. Maybe after the winter meetings,
we're going to find out they're going to spend an
extra not only the thirty million that they took away.
A couple of years ago. They're going to spend an
extra thirty so they're.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Going to be sixty million above the payroll from when
they cut.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It by thirty million. That's possible. I don't know, Twins,
writes Randy in Duluth.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Twins have concepts of a plan. They will announce it
in two weeks. Concepts of a plan. Okay, Yeah, that's
good word salad there as well. Uh, Paul's knew the
plane in August when they got rid of half the team. Yeah,
I mean you could say they've sort of they haven't
hidden their their vision so far. But it's just the
way the quote was written from from Rosenthal. Again, I
(11:27):
just I don't know that they know what they're going
to do. They're working through it.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Can't you translate that to they don't know what they're
doing or they do know what they're doing. Well, yeah,
that's very true. I did get the email that Twins
Fest tickets are on sale today. If anybody's interested in
Twins Baseball dot com.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
God bless you.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
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I heard the Twins have a framework of a plan.
(12:18):
Twins are exploring the intent to create a plan.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
If a Twins trade a starter, can nine come and
pitch is wide base seems more appropriate off the mound
better than at the football field or on the football field.
Be a great year for a winter Twins caravan tour
with Lavelle driving.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
The bus. I've been at a winter caravan with levell
Have you really up in Elie?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah? Years and years ago.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Is there a backstory to that? It was just we
went up there at the PA and do Bay show.
It was one of their snowmobile events. I don't think
it was like the Twins Fest caravan deal. I don't
know Guard he was there, Rick Anderson was there. Lavelle
won like three grand, This goes fifty below zero, this
goes back away.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, this is probably oh seven Larry Mondela guy.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Does Dan have any more of that liquid mental clarity
he used to take that he could share with the
Twins front office and owners.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
What happened to your mental clarity?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You know right, I've kind of I've kind of lost
touch with the candles, the clogs and the mental the
organic mental clarity. I'm gonna have to look for that. Yeah,
take a look at at least somebody stole it. I
had it at my desk. It could be gone. Maybe
somebody tried to drink it around here. I rule nothing there.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I agree. If he if he knows who the.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Owners are, that is Larry Mondela guy continues, then they
can They can clearly see they are going to sell
off every major league ready player.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
All that's possibly true. Good news and bad news.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Good news is we can spread our wings a little
bit more between now and four. Bad news is that
means Sean Salisbury is apparently in some sort of travel
meat grinder, so he is not going to join us today.
Decent shot that we're gonna be able to squeeze him
in on the Friday Football Beast tomorrow, which has happened
before he.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Got a new gig. Did you see that Salisbury?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
No, I know he was interviewing with everybody because he
told us he say, hey, look suss coming. Yeah, it's
I don't know exactly what this he'll tell us, but
it seems like it's player development slash recruiting helper. Interesting,
like one of those companies. Well, you can tell he
loves that stuff. Oh yeah, he absolutely revels in that
sort of thing. So yeah, we'll talk to him about that,
(14:38):
hopefully tomorrow. Because the rule on the Bumper and Bumper
Show is better late Salisbury than no Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
There's a question about that.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
However, it does open the door a little bit to
talk about Rick Bosich's worst nightmare. Going to go for
men's basketball team right here on the fan ruined Bosich's
night such, of course, is my best friend from college huge,
I'm a hoosier root from Afar. I'm kind of if
(15:07):
I'm honest, in and out of it. He's never left
it and he is now that he's retired. Does nothing
but think Indiana sports, in Ana university sports and the
White Sox. And let's just say the Gophers ruined his
night last night at the Barn with what ended up
being not even a particularly I'm always in a blowout,
(15:28):
but it was not even a game that went right
down to the wire at all. First Big Ten game,
of course, under the tutelage of the new head coach,
a Nico Medven and I only I was chasing drugs
for my daughter. Well that doesn't sound very good way antibiotics.
(15:49):
She's under the weather. I didn't get to see very
much of it. I was in and out of the
car enough where I was listening to Grimmer on it
and only once her contact no file, no, no file.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I think it was what maybe twice.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Actually that was it, which is actually for listening for
like six minutes, was pretty pretty low.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But it looks to me.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So I texted Bosis, I said, so, what how do this?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
He said, they got crushed. Minnesota crushed the Hoosiers on
the boards. And I looked it up. Yeah, and he's right.
That's the story of the ballgame. And that's not good
news for your Hoosiers. No, no, well, they have been
apparently quite vulnerable by the way. This was their first
road game, although they were undefeated. Yeah, I think this
was actually their first one.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Courtney James John Thomas and Trevor Winter aren't walking through
that door for the Gophers. This yeries, But it seemed
like it was one of those games where all right,
all hands on deck.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
What do we got to lose.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Let's just let's just, as we say in the business,
out effort them. It was great forty to twenty five.
The rebounding advantage for the Gophers, and that included a
ten to five advance on the offensive boards. So to me, now,
there's other stats you can point to players that have
barely played coming in and contributing obviously pretty effectively. But
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he also thought that apparently we hit two late three
pointers in the first half that he also thought made
it the kind of game where the Gophers.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Are going, oh, hey, you're in this thing. We were
tired at the half in.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
A way that it, you know, Iniana might have gone
into the half of the six or seven point lead.
So all those things are good. I So I'm not
going to pretend I saw it. I'm not going to
pretend that I'm ready for the ad to give Nico
a contract extension.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yet.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Well, what I will say is what I think I
said when he was hired that in a sense, you
could argue it's not the most quote unquote exciting higher
or sexy higher. But the one advantage I thought he
represented was he doesn't have to learn to coach on
the job. And that's not even meant as a rip
(18:06):
at Ben Johnson. That's just was the reality of the
Ben Johnson era. This guy's coached a while. He knows
how to be a head coach, and anyone who watches
the way he runs offense knows he knows how to
run an offense too.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
He knows how to build an offense.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
And so to me, maybe this is the first sign
of this is at the very least, not a guy
that's gonna have to train on the job. Guy knows
how to he knows the game, he knows how to coach.
And look early, he told us this when we had
him at the State Fair.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I mean, you're looking.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
He's not.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
He's not naive. He I could see the upper deck
in the highlights. There was nobody there. He knows what
he's walked into here. And it's how it's gonna take.
It's gonna you're gonna have to win people over. But
let's face it, whatever INDI end ends up being, they're
a legitimate Big Ten school and you're they're your first
Big Ten game, and that's exactly the kind of game
you need to at least open the door to. Oh, Okay,
(19:02):
maybe there are some changes going on there. Maybe there
is something worth finally paying attention to there, even if
it's a long way from here to contending for Big
ten titles.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You would have loved how the game finished, because well,
first of all, they made most of their free throws,
which was helpful. That's been even probably even for them
the last couple of weeks and Indiana did not.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
A free throw line. Indiana shot sixty yeah, twelve for
twenty yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
But they made the shots at the end of the half,
and their defense was great, and you mentioned the rebounding disparity.
And then as they are getting into crunch time, they
run a couple of you know, just their regular offensive
sets and if you blink, the way that they do
the offense with bat cuts and reads and screens and everything,
if you screw something up and leave a guy open,
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guys are gonna make shots.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And they've got this.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
They've got this Bobby Durkin kid who looks like an
AI Jimmy Chitwood chat JPT. What does Jimmy Chitwood look
like twenty twenty five? This would be him, and he
found you know, some open looks. Obviously, Kate Tyson found
some open looks. Awesome mates. So they separated with like
four minutes left. Just on great offense as well as
(20:13):
great defense. It's not the usual even Robbie Hummel said
it on the broadcast. For both teams, there was there's
great movement, there's great cutting, there's great awareness. He goes,
it's not just a bunch of high ball screens, no,
which if you watch college basketball, that's what it's become.
So it was an entertaining game that way, because both
teams I thought ran good stuff like that. It was
(20:33):
an improbable and impressive victory.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Was very fun.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Again, the talent is thin, I think, especially when your
factor in the injuries most importantly, who is the porty
guard willis Yeah, who went.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Down for the year for the year now?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And and so I'm not sitting here saying we're that
now they're going to go undefeated in the Big Ten.
But I think the way to me this should be
evaluated is further reinforcing the notion that again they're not
in a position where, well, it's going to take this
coach some time to figure out the game and getting experience.
(21:11):
It takes any coach some time. He's past that. Now
it's gonna be can you get enough talent in a
very competitive conference? Can you keep it? All those ordinary things,
but not the game. The game he knows the way
to handle a team. He already knows, and you know
he's I think you can tell he carries himself with
(21:32):
that knowledge that, in fact, you can always make the
argument in some ways that you actually prove that at
lower levels of competition, and then at this level it's
you're in good shape if you can add the talent.
You know, if you can keep bringing the talent in
and not have to have eleven new bodies, you know,
eleven new bodies every year, which was kind of what
(21:52):
we tended to go through in the Ben Johnson era in.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Terms of figuring things out. On the Coaches Show this week,
and we did the first Nico Coaches Show this week,
and I even joked at him. I said, we haven't
even gotten into your show yet, and you're already down
seven players. Like the show people barely even know your
season has started, and now we're already talking about all
these injuries. And as he was going through one of
it and talking about how they do things and how
we're going to practice, he actually straight upset. But and
(22:16):
I'm paraphrasing, I've been through this kind of stuff, right.
You figure it out, you do. You take a little
bit of it like no one's gonna feel bad for you.
That's what we're here for. And it was kind of refreshing. Yeah,
it was a hundred percent. Of course, I'm sure he's
frustrated he doesn't have enough bodies, but I like that
approach that he just said to everybody that was there,
a buffalo wild wings, I've done this before, we'll do it.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
We'll figure it out. And that's an advantage.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And I that's why the minute the decision was made,
I just thought the Big Ten shouldn't be a conference
in which you have you're forced to go with a coach,
even if he's got a chance to be good to
learn about being a head coach on the job. It
just doesn't. It doesn't. I'm sure there are samples of
where it's worked, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
(23:02):
And I think that's to me what what Nico represented
and is it's a bonus that he's got history here.
I didn't think it was essential, but it's a bonus
because he has some context from which to work and
he comes in I think with his eyes open as well,
because he's been here when it was better and he's
observed it when obviously after the fall with Clem. It
(23:25):
got a lot worse. Hoosiers crushed, Bozich, flushed Nico, blushed
Wolves and thought Wolves are in action tonight it's the rematch.
It is Pelicans thought they let one get away last time,
so they might plant their feet.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
They'll be ready tonight. They'll be ready. Have no idea
who's playing for them, but they'll be ready. Is Ion back, No,
he's out for a while. Jonas is out now for
two to four. Well, not only that, you saw the
big media report, was it Scham's Yeah, he wants out.
He's already before the season. They talked at it apparently.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
So I'm trying to figure out is this is he
advancing the story where this is more active than before,
because obviously there'll be a lot of teams interested in him.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Here's what a team that makes no sense for me
being interested in Oki City?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Tell me what you think, because one of the speculation was, well,
if you look around the league, they're going to be
looking for draft picks, those and young players, those kinds
of resources. So the logical, a logical fit would be
Oklahoma City. Sure, And my comeback to that is, I'm
not sure why Oklahoma City it wouldn't even possibly explore it.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
They wouldn't. It doesn't make any now. Again, they're not going.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
To be I don't think they're going to finish like
seventy eight and four.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's their current pace.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But they've got so many things going doing it the
way they're doing it, can you imagine, I mean, you
bring it a guy like that, top five player in
the league, A lot lot of things are going to
have to change and revolve around them.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So why why would so? I understand people saying, well,
they got the resources, so if.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You're Milwaukee, you'd like to talk to Yeah, for sure,
But I have no idea why they would go away
from the model that they have embraced so effectively. And so,
you know, I think almost historically, I just don't think
right now there's any other franchises that are kind of
doing it the way they're doing it. They have a
legitimate superstar, but it's one they sort of groomed themselves.
(25:27):
It wasn't one that they had to go out and
get as already being established and who are you going
to give up? It doesn't make any sense, No, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Although I do kind of like the novelty of Jannis
going from a small market to an even smaller market.
That's true, because that's usually never happened before. Right when
you ever had anybody going to Oklahoma City as some
type of destination, even in speculation.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
No, they're not doing that.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
By the way, as we continue the basketball conversation, much
to the chagrin of Kevin Falness, exactly that's what I
was going to get to. But there's already the Clippers.
I'm probably I've probably never been as appreciative of Chris
(26:07):
Paul's game as I should be when you factor in
the number of ball people I respect who say he's
an all time great.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
But I'm having a hard time.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Fostering up the suitable outrage that has been generated elsewhere
under the classification of how dare this organization get rid
of this point god legend in the middle of the night.
I'm sorry, I'm not that worked up over it a
because the only reason it was middle of the night
(26:40):
had to do with some flight delays. So this notion
that there's some we get I believe way too hung
up in the idea that there's a big distinction between
cutting a legendary player at two in the morning or
the following morning at nine am. Sorry, I just don't
(27:00):
think it's that big of a deal in this case
had more to do with circumstances, and what I have
read and what I've continued to hear is Chris Paul
has been too much like Chris Paul there, and it's
no different than he ever was. The guy thinks he
is in charge of everything, wants to run everything. When
(27:23):
you're a point god, you can get away with that, right.
People will tolerate that because you're really good at your job.
When you are an occasional bench player, they're not going
to have any tolerance for it.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
So I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Look, the Clippers have been their own worst enemy. But
I guess I'm having a hard time making that big
of a production or how dare they do that to
Chris Paul. Chris Paul knows the approach he takes, and
at some point I just can't lose any sleepover now.
The question I'm getting to is will he lands somewhere?
(27:59):
And if you're if you're a Wolves fan, do you
have any interest in Chris Paul?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I have none.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I don't think I do either, because again, I think
you've already got you know, a veteran older guy. Okay,
I'm not sure how much Chris Paul has left. And again,
we don't need the clubhouse lawyering if you're not going
to be a main player, right, I just it's just,
I just seasons are too long.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
There's enough, there are enough challenges there.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I just so I would be stunned if there's much
sniffing done by the Timberwolves, whatever they might do at
the point guard position, I will be surprised that Chris
Paul will land here.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I thought about it for about ten seconds. Would that
make sense?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
And I'll be honest, I haven't watched a lot of
Clippers on league pass this year, not want to make
to watch.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Well there they've been a mess. They have been. They're
old and not very good.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And who's the Miami Heat player they they Norman Powell
they traded to. I mean they in a sense exchanged
him for who's the injured guys with the Suns last
year's Season's already over the guard who used to be
with Washington. Oh, Bradley Bradley Beal. Yeah, that's the trade
in a sense they made. Beale is done. Paul's terrific.
(29:12):
So they've brought on some of their issues themselves. But
I just yeah, I don't. I don't know. So we'll
see because I do think and we even talked about
this with Mike Conley. He knows it comes with the territory.
The discussions are going to be ongoing, don't you think.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Lastly, somebody said that there's an internet rumor and this
one makes absolutely zero sense that the Wolves are on
the verge of trading for Kevin Durant. Now I ask you,
have you checked the Houston Rockets start to the season
in their record, they're pretty good, they're fourteen, they're they're outstanding. Yeah,
(29:51):
they're the three seed right now. Let me see, Rockets
are gonna go. You know what, This isn't working out
for us. So we're only fourteen to five, and hey,
let's see if we can do.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
A favorite another team, not only well in the another
NBA team, but a team in our conference. Where does
this stuff come from? Do you have any Have you
heard that one? No, but I'm kind of curious. The
sights that you're visiting. Well, actually, I'm starting to worry
about it. I didn't visit it. It was it was
I wrote about it. Oh, did he he actually wrote
(30:20):
about it. I'm worried about his site. Well that could
be too, but I mean it's like it's durant.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Might have made sense when last trade deadline there was
talking to you, willing to come here and they couldn't
get it done then, and then in the summer it
was I don't want to go there. I want to
go to Houston.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
So tight gun melt tight.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
There's ones that make kind of sense and some that
don't make much sense at all.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Let me get to a couple of texts. We'll go
to forty two.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Might as well, m yep, Tom Izzodean Smith, Roy Williams
for a few worked out okay, start the head coaching
careers in big basketball conferences.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, I mean it's it's not unprecedented.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
That's a fair Pointzo was Heathcote's guy for like fifty
years exactly, And I think that wasn't Roy Williams, Dean
Smiths guy. He was, yes, and then went to yeah.
So I again, I just think they were further along
in that regard. Somebody's asking about James Harden rumors.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I've raised the name before. I don't know if you
were on that day or not.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
We've talked about it, so and yeah, and it's it
sounds on one level. Let me back up and say,
I have no idea what the Clippers plans are moving forward.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
They're like the Twins.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
I don't think I know James Harden would refuse to
show up here. I don't think he likes the cold.
Although he was in Philly, right, Yeah, wasn't Philly he
was for a while, was he?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah? I think he was.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
He's been everywhere pretty sure was in Philly, Houston, maybe
Philly in any case.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
But if if it's possible, do I think it's as
preposterous as I an idea to me as I initially
might have thought, no, even though it's like and it's
a hell of a flyer if you're going to do
something that would be very, very dramatic. But oddly I've
come to like this version of James Harden better than
(32:12):
previous versions. Now, the fatal flaw you could come back
with is yeah, but even in the playoffs, this new
version it's more of a distributor. Yes, he's fallen off
the edge of a table in some important game, so
I you know, we're a long way from here to there.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
But they're gonna be They're gonna be a bunch of those.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I mean, I unless something gets stabilized here in that regard,
like out of nowhere. Tonight, Dillingham scores thirty five and
dishes for tennis sists.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Just everything clicks.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
He gets extra minutes because somebody is either hurt or
foul trouble, and it starts a trend where he's kind
of figured it out.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Barring that, I.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Just don't see, you know, the rest of the players,
of the rest of the players right in terms of
who's who can possibly run the show, so well have to.
We'll continue to monitor. You know, I haven't caught up
on the show in a while. We haven't had Sam
Mitchell on, so we should probably catch up with him.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
You know. The interesting about Sam. Do you remember last
year Sam's.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Suggestion, which got dismissed by a lot of the insiders,
was what about making Nikhil Alexander Walker You're starting point guard?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, and some people thought it was crazy. Is it
a reach? He's played really well for Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
In fact, he's flourished without who's their main Their main
score has been out hurt Trey Young. He's played great
for them, so you know, will we will that be
the love we lost?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I don't know it's possible. He's averaging twenty a game
right now? Is he really? How about it? What's his
assist total?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Is he running it? Is he the lead guard? I
don't know that.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I would imagine, yes, twenty points three point five assists? Okay,
well that's not a huge number if you're but he's Yeah,
he's playing well and he can guard.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's the other thing. You know, we always knew it.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I mean, he's he is the two way player and
I'm not. You know again, I know we could. You
couldn't bring everybody back, But in any case, so a
lot of hoop talked there, very encouraging result at the Barn.
I have no idea what the crowd ended up being.
But again, I think when people looked at this schedule,
they go having big ten games early is gonna stink
(34:19):
because they might get routed early, and then it's another
reason for people to look the other way. The beauty
of what they did last night is it goes the
other direction. I know they do have a very tough
they're at Purdue.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Is it next week? Next week? Produce Purdue they're number one.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
But I don't think anybody is going to lose their
minds if we go to Purdue and do not dominate.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
But we'll see.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Let's pause here. Sean Salisbury is going to join us
on tomorrow's show. Travel issues reared their head this afternoon,
so we hope to get Shawnee in tomorrow. We do
have Russo Radio at five o'clock and Andy Lueger, who
I think wants to talk more vikings than feeding our future.
He is scheduled in studio beginning at four.
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Speaker 2 (36:05):
All right, Andy Luger is in the house. He's going
to join at the top of the hour. I was
just meeting him up at the vestibule. I hope I'm
not out of breath.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Turn Town, we still have it. We start Town we
still have it. Yeah, that's got an endate of like
year twenty twenty two to twenty. We're keeping that one forever.
Why wouldn't we? Right real quick, I can find this
is from Clayton in Rochester. What do the Twins even know?
(36:39):
Pablo Esco borero Twins hot stove is more like ten
below wolves and five people work hard for it, man,
they really really do work hard, watching Nikiel, Sam Darnold,
Daniel Jones doing so a lot of other teams like
scrolling Facebook and seeing an ex happy with someone way
(37:00):
better looking than you. It hurts. That's from Kyle in Iante.
But remember, as we talked about.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yesterday, we're on the right side of the great what's
his name?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Our new goaltender, what's the nickname?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
The Greywall of Saint Paul, who we acquired from some
smart draft day maneuvering, moving up a couple of spots
to steal him, assuming that he wasn't going to be
available if we waited till twenty two. I think we
moved up to twenty yep, and right now that looks
like a stroke of genius. So we are occasionally on
(37:37):
the other side of things. We do we must fairness
and savagery take that under consideration.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
We didn't.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I don't think discuss this in much detail yesterday, and
I don't even know if we had the sound or not.
But there's been some discussion reaction to a couple of
things that the quarterback whisper had to say, most recently
about his number one quarterback, by the way, who has
been completely cleared right, he's not a concussion protocol.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
He met the media today, and he met the media
today EyeBlack on.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I don't think he had any EyeBlack, but I didn't watch.
I did read a couple of things that piqued my interest. O'Connell.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
It's purely about decision decision making at this point. I
want him to have a clear head and a clear
mind to just go play, but play with an understanding
of the decisions that I make have to be of
the utmost importance. Because we learned our turnover number is
where it is. It's not a winning formula. I don't
want him overthinking or worrying about if the fundamentals need
(38:36):
to be changed.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Let's just make the throws, Let's just throw and catch.
Let's just play with great rhythm and understanding of the plan.
Now last things that are easily correctable.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
That's kind of what Shaun Salisbury said to us a
week ago. Yes, almost word for word.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yes, it's it's it's still tricky, but because in a.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Sense it's sounds, it was cool to say just fling it.
But in truth, sometimes when quarterbacks do that, it gets
even worse because they can throw five picks.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
However, all of.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
These comments this week kind of come off as.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Maybe I put too much in the kid's head. So
then you're back to, well, should it have taken you
this long to figure it out? It's infuriating, isn't it
supposed to be?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Incrementally, you add those things after some success with more
fundamental and basic things, and then okay, now he might
be ready.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
For the next step. And then we're gonna add a
couple of wrinkles. But I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I don't want to have him thinking about that stuff
in the beginning, just because I got the big fat playbook.
How long have we been talking about bass balance ball
bros And Bahamas? I mean they were talking about his
posture in the pocket, you know, having he's got to
get better posture in the pocket. They're happening to do
all these things. Do you want to hear what JJ
said today? This one just no, you know, but it's
(39:58):
like it's along.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
The same line. OK.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
A lot of the mentality has changed, for sure. I
was so focused on doing every rep perfectly and making
sure every little detail was crossed and checked off. Coach
O'Connell and Coach McCown have talked to me like, hey,
let's worry about that stuff in the offseason. Go out there,
play your ball and execute the play. That frees up
a lot of space. Mentally, be instinctual, react and respond
to what the defense is giving me.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Well, but let me throw out another possibility. They are
making it up as they go along, As we talked
about with the Twins earlier. It's almost like, all right,
we've tried that approach and we are at least talking
publicly about it. So what are we left with, Well,
we'll go the other direction and that maybe that'll make
us sound smarter. And there's no guarantee that anything is
going to change quote unquote with this approach, or that
(40:45):
the approach itself is even going to really change.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
But you got to it's almost like, well, we can't keep.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Talking about that stuff, so we'll go to the other extreme.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yeah, maybe, I just know this is a first guest
at the time, we've talked about it, like you can't
and I know they hadn't. Well, they did play the
Packers here a minute ago, but like, you can't be
thinking about your posture when Michael Parsons is a second
and half behind you.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
You just can't. It's not working. You think about that
in the offseason.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
And even though when he was coming off the international
trip that goes all the way back to October, late September,
early October, the things they were talking about that they
were doing on the practice field just made no sense
like that they were And I know the reporters are
asking about it so because they're obsessed with the process
of whatever's going on with the with a QB development.
(41:34):
So I defend them a little bit there, but I just,
I mean, we've talked about this for two months now,
how it just felt like everything was cloudy, And that's
what Salisbury said. As a coach, my job is to
remove clutter, and I feel like the way they handled
JJ is like when my kids come in the house
and just throw their shoes in snow pants everywhere and it's.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Just all right there. And clutter means a couple of
different things to me. One is are you throwing too
much stuff in his head about base body balanced Brosmer.
But also are you putting too much on his play plate? Yes,
so to me it's a little bit of those. Both
can represent clutter. And that's the part that still slays
(42:16):
me is because it wasn't if what they're if they
believe what they're saying. Now, this is one hundred percent
confirmation of what we've been saying all along, which shouldn't
have been that.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Difficult to figure out from the beginning.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Corrects the thing with a young quarterback, because it's always
easier to.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Add, right, is it not?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I mean, just you build Okay, we got kept kind
of pedestrian and maybe not as wide ranging as we
like to use my playbook because of everything that's in there.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
But I it's a long season, it's a long career.
It's the idea is we're looking for some success. Uh,
We're looking for some continuity there and gain a little
confidence and then we can we can always add things
and then I'll eventually look pretty as the head coach again,
you know, I'll be fine. So it it's so clear
that there's been too much of an emphasis on the
(43:04):
wrong things almost from the beginning here.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Now, maybe his accuracy is so bad it won't matter.
It wouldn't have mattered, but it's hard not to sec
It's almost like they're asking on the basis of their
comments this week, they're begging us to second guests or
in this case, first guest first settle all along it
say well, this is exactly what we've been talking about,
all right, top of the hour pause, we will probably
(43:27):
talk some vikings for the next guest, because he's a
big time vikings rube, and though I know has a
lot on his mind regarding the JJ McCarthy saga. And
then we will get to a lot of different subjects
that are closer to home in terms of what he
once did as a couple of times. Minnesota US Attorney
(43:48):
for the State of Minnesota, Andy Lueger in studio questions
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