December 8, 2025 • 25 mins
Dan spends the second hour of the show running through some Vikings Talking Points, some NFL talk and gets Gaardsy's recap of the Gopher Women's Basketball devastating loss to Maryland on Sunday.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Are these numbers accurate?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Guard See Gopher women's basketball team takes a ninety nine
to ninety lead over the University of Maryland on two
free throws by your gal Mara Braun. That's with fifty
four seconds left? Is that time right? Fifty four seconds
or fifty I've heard different versions of this. Either way
(00:41):
that sounds that's that's accurate. They led by nine in
the final minute, and then Maryland gets two free throws
ten seconds later to cut it obviously to seven. Then
we turn it.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Over our next three possessions.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, and on the first two steals lead to three
point plays. So sack to baskets and fouls and free
throws mate, exactly right?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Correct, Yes, back to back within seconds of each other.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And to boot, we lose two of our most important players,
fouling out on each of those fouls on the first one,
and Gray Grohalski who had thirty one points and nine
threes in the other one. So mathematically this seems impossible.
Maryland scored eight points in nine seconds. Yeah, that pulls
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it there. The Turps to within ninety nine to ninety
eight with thirty five seconds to go.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Then we commit another turnover battle I believe correct. That
was in the front court. That wasn't as opposed to
the back court. They were letting. They were going to
let the Gophers run it down and try to get
to stop. They break the press. Finally they get it
into the front court. Battle throws it to the left
corner where she thought her teammate by Glenn would be
and Glenn was cutting back door. Carlin then gets the
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ball back. They take a time out, and they get
a goal ahead layup correct. Yes, and then with a
second to go, bron misses a three pointer. Yes, the
only field goal attempt we took in the final minute
because of the turnovers, that would it makes sense? Yeah,
and the rest is history. I mean, that's the kind
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of game that, if you're not careful, can stick with
you for a long time. I mean, that's that's a
calendar that is absolutely worthy of the Calendar of Calamity
in a basketball sense. Obviously, if the Wolves do that
and they're playing Phoenix tonight they blew a big lead
against Phoenix, it becomes a big story.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
How was it in the gym? What was it?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
How would you describe the mood in the gym? Shock stunned,
gob smacked, silent dead. It was unbelievable. I've never seen
anything like it. I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, yeah,
that's and people that saw it. It was on Big
ten network yesterday. People that's saw it. It was just
panicked turnovers where they literally threw it right to a
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Maryland player who laid it in and they fouled them.
It was stunned silence because as you laid out, they
were up nine, they had controlled the second overtime, they
had controlled the first overtime. They also led by five
with less than twenty seconds to go in the first
overtime and had a turnover there after Maryland made a
really long three pointer to give them hope. Seventh rank Maryland,
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we should add, for those who don't know exactly, the
always good historic Maryland. And it was stunned. It was
just stunned silence. After the game, Maryland was down by
as much as fifteen the first half. Correct, Yes, Gophers
led by fourteen at half time, so obviously playing pretty well.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Gophers played great.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, first overtime, we're up five with nineteen seconds to go,
so how do they get five points?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
The rest of that.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The overtime, Maryland hits a three from the Cambria logo,
you know, kind of a we just got to take
a because we got twenty seconds left. They make it.
Gophers inbound it to the corner. McKinney may have gotten fouled,
but then they trapped her. She steps on the right
sideline right in front of the Maryland bench, so they
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get turned on the back right there, and then the Gophers,
I think, had an opportunity to win it. Then it
was it was a crazy game, and it was Calamity
is the word for it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It's devastating.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's a devastating loss because it's Maryland exactly, because it's
everything that they represent. And this was a big, you know,
stepping stone you're trying to make that next step up.
And they played outstanding. I mean, they controlled the entire
first half. Maryland went to his zone in the third quarter.
That gave him some trouble, let them get back into
the game. Maryland led by five fourth quarter, Gophers found
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a way to get it back to tie it in overtime.
It was a great game and they should have won it.
They should have wanted them in the first overtime and
absolutely the second in the second overtime. So that's of
course the channel. And now you got to you gotta
get them, yeah you now, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You can't. You can't.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You can't let it be compounded by the trauma to
the point where you you're affected. I think you're our
next opponent, though we don't have it.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Non conference again. Yeah, so you've got Indiana at the
end of the month. You have a chance to get
well again. I speaking of comments from coaches, and again
you work with her and I'm not here, you know,
to put you on the spot here, but I I
guess I still look, she has to, you know, plits
White has to think about what we're just talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
She the psyche, the psyche of her player. So the
last thing she wants to do is gut them when
they're down, right, even though deep down she might have
every right to want to on the basis of the
way the thing played out. But I and maybe this
is the only quote I saw, isn't isn't indicative of
what what she said in the larger since during the
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course of the presser, I'm really proud of our young ladies.
I thought they competed their hearts out. They played a
really high level against one of the best teams in
the country. You felt like that was our game to
get Maryland credit. They never gave up. I mean just
I guess I need a little something, you know, a
little something like well that that can't happen. Well, is
that just not in her? Is that just not the
She's cable. I don't think she's going to do that publicly. Ever,
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I think she's always she might. Privately she might, And
if you watch her on the sidelines when that stuff
is going on, you can not like it. Well she's like,
at what the hell are we doing? Yeah, you can
see that, But when she speaks about it publicly, No,
she's not.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Going to take that approach, unfortunately. True.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
All right, it was crazy, man, I mean it was crazy. Well,
like I said, I I want to go back, and
you said it was on yesterday replayed, Well, it was on.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Big ten network. I'm sure they'll replay it at some point. Yeah,
I got it. I I would like to.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I mean, because they played so well, that's the devastating tact,
like you put yourself in a position multiple times to
win the game, Yeah, and somehow don't win it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
We've got Ben Lieber later.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
This hour, We've got Cashman in the five o'clock hour.
Got many more vikings talking points to get to. It's
somebody once said, I think it was SID. It's a
crazy league, the National Football The latest example would be,
I think the Bears, on the basis of one loss,
one actually competitive loss against the Green Bay Packers, have
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gone from the top seed in the NFC to the
seventh seed. One loss took them from one to number seven.
So we may expand the conversation and get into some
other stuff within the division. But as I said, some
other good vikings talking points to get to. There's a
lot on the platter the rest of the way. We
hope you'll hang with us back in just a minute
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Speaker 1 (08:05):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Could you see a bear's melt down and a lion's
melt down with the Lions winning the last game of
the year and the Vikings winning out and making the
last game of the year meaningful, you it'd be fun.
I the Bears are capable of anything. I mean, the
Bears schedule is very hard down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They do host Cleveland this week. That's a game they
have to win or they are going to find themselves
in some significant trouble.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But we're not.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
We are definitely not mathematically eliminated yet, but I don't
think we're that far off either. So I you know,
are there people holding out some kind of a slim
hope that somehow a bunch of other teams could implode
and we could we could we could matriculate ourselves back
into the playoff chase. I'm sure there's a few of
(08:59):
those people out there. Number Yeah, I understand a little
bit of that. You know, you want to hold on
to whatever hope you have, But I don't think it's
very realistic at this point. But I haven't done all
the permutations. What happens is people get they see like,
here's who's in who, here are your division leaders, here
are your wildcard teams, and then they have that in
(09:20):
the hunt in the hunt is my favorite.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And if they put you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
In the hunt, I think people get excited.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Like, well, they put us in the hunt, we must
be in the hunt, right, you know what, we're right there?
I mean we were We're not the top team in
the hunt. H we're in the hunt. In the hunt,
so and I.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But does in the hunt anymore mean we haven't been
mathematically eliminated yet?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
What doesn't mean you really.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Are in the hunt? I think it really means you're
technically kind of in the hunt. I guess it depends
on the week. But we haven't been in the hunt
on that graphic for a while. I don't think we've
been in there having I don't think so. I thought
we were somewhere the other day. Were in yesterday. I
I didn't even see the graphics. The victory they decided to,
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you know, give us a little a little bit of love.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And in the hunt is great.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Ben Johnson's Pecs, Guardsys, criked neck, Vike just got flexed
Wolves and five. I don't think we got flex though.
It does the same guy do that every day? It's
a different amazing thing. Well, he does it a lot.
That's flim flam, but there are several other people who
do it. They're they're they're totally into it. I think
(10:30):
the the silver lining is that we were not deflexed
out of this Sunday night football game with Dallas. But
like you said last week, it's Dallas. It's always going
to be Dallas is always going to be in there there.
It takes a lot to deflex Dallas.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Let's squeeze in another talking point right now.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I want to credit fully and completely our guy Mark
Craig from The Star to Bune, because he's my inspiration here.
I call this particular talking point.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Thank you. CJ. Ham. Now out of the.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Gun, McCarthy under some pusher, he's gonna tuck and run
and dive ahead close to the sticks.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
CJ.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Ham did everything he could to keep that play alive
with a good block and McCarthy moves the.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Chains with a scramble run.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And really the most impressive thing about this watch JJ McCarthy,
just his ball carriage, how he's carrying the ball in
the pocket. They run a little bit of a game
where von Miller spikes inside bring the pressure, and how
he holds onto this ball as he has a defender
swiping at it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's really disciplined football.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Great pocket presence by JJ McCarthy there and then the
presidents of mind to take off, run, dive Ford get.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
The first down.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's the voice of Drew Brees, color analyst in the game. Yeah,
and you heard also from play by play guy, I
think it was Adam Amen.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, I mean there's no question that ham was massed.
Now PJ, PJ. JJ handled it very well, as as
was said during that sound bite. And I don't when
I in real time lifetime, I thought he almost fumbled
the ball, but he didn't almost fumble it. His arm
got hit a little bit, but he had control of
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the ball, I believe the entire time. And he made
something out of nothing to keep the That's the beginning
of the the ninety eight yard drive. Correct, that went
on for Yeah, that was the first third down, and
he would that last lunge he got the first right,
that was it. I mean, he wouldn't get it without
that last lunge I don't believe. And the last lunge
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by c J. Hamm kept him point that that stuff.
You know, again, the non sexy stuff is very instrumental
often in in this case like I.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Said, it saved, not just to play, it saved the drive.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Now you don't know at that point it's going to
be a nineteen play drive obviously, but we talked about,
you know, this offense just staying on the field, not
having enough play, and they had plenty of plays yesterday
for sure, maybe for the first time this season. I
got a text earlier from someone saying, are we going
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to talk about the Adam Feelin.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Comments? Now?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I have to find out if they're the same comments
I have read.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Or if I've missed something.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Are you aware of some things Adam Thieln had to
say after I'm not He took place he started for
the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers held off the Baltimore Ravens.
I think the final score was twenty seven to twenty two.
Here's the quote, let me find the right I had
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it and I lost it. Let me find the right
spot to get it here it is, well, I think
this will be the same maybe be the same deal.
He Feeling basically said that he it's been Here's the
quote to Jackals after the game, It's.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Been a wild week.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I found my love for the game back just being
out there playing the game. I love, just thankful to
be out there and thrown into a huge game and rivalry.
He confirmed last week that he intends to retire following
this season, so I guess the Texter may have looked
I assume was taking it like, well, that's a little
bit of a jab at how he felt coming back home.
(14:30):
I don't know if it was meant that way or not,
but I will say a couple of things for the
In the game itself, I think he only had one
catch for four yards, which is not that different frankly
than when he was here. However, he was out there
more often and he did start. I think it was
out I think he played twenty five snaps. Yeah, in
the past five weeks. He played twenty four snaps for
the Vikings. And somebody said there was also a pass
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intended for him. I think the one he caught was
a red zone catch, and then there was another pass,
a longer pass intended for him that tipped. And I
think Rogers has already had some complimentary things to say
about him, but.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
It's the most he played since when.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
The first three games of the season, right, So as
I understand it, I don't think the Steelers are viewed
as having had the wide receiver depth that we have.
I love their number one guy, although he hasn't been
used great this season. Yeah, he had a big catch yesterday,
think a big touchdown, a big long one in fact,
or at least one that's set up a touchdown. But
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the truth is Pittsburgh needs a wide receiver obviously more
than the Vikings do.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
The Vikings have more depth at the position.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Now based on the way the offense has been the
last several weeks, you'd say, well, could you tell?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But so I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Too far down the rabbit hole of you know, the
Vikings have been As much as I like to do
the we didn't need him bit, and I might have
done it if i'd seen the quote just for the
sake of the bit, I'm not meaning it. My heart
isn't in it. Like well, we blew it. We blew
it on Adam feeling. It's just a circumstance. Was he
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got caught up in the numbers here, whereas we said,
there were no injuries at that position, and Pittsburgh's a
little more desperate, I think for in their mind they're going,
let's take a flyer, you know, let's take a flyer
and as it was one catch four yards.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
My seat's going down again. That happens.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It happens all the time. So unless there's another quote,
I think that's the one. I think that's getting the
run and I have no problem with it. No, I
don't have no problem with it. I'm sure you asked
him about it multiple times, not every week, as you said,
but you asked him about it all. We were all
watching his snaps go down. And if it is in
fact his last year, which they said at the time,
and I think even his wife on an Instagram video said,
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I don't blame him, right, I don't blame him for
wanting to go somewhere else and play more. And I'm
sure it was frustrating to not be out there when
you know your clock is ticking, even if you aren't
the Adam feeling of.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, and he drops some balls, that's true, So that's
on him too a little bit. He has not been
as sure handed as his reputation as he has tended
to be. But in any case, I yeah, I think
if they're Vikings fans bitter about what he is saying,
I think that's a little much touch some grass. Yeah,
it's just not it's he's an emotional guy. There's no
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question about that. He's always been an emotional player, and
for him, it's just I'm out there more so it's
easier to love the game again if I'm out there more.
I don't think that necessarily has to mean he's indicting
the Vikings. The Vikings correct didn't have that much room
for him, as I think maybe maybe he didn't. He's
competitive enough to think he should have been out there more,
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I'm sure, but I don't buy it on that level.
I don't think, and I certainly don't buy it on
the level of, well, we really blew it, you know,
he really as he could have been a great asset
to what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I think we've seen.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
In the development of Naylor leaving Addison for aside for
the moment that you know that this team does have
some wide receiver debs.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I think Naylor's had a great year.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yes, I don't think you should so probably what her
feeling big time is he kept at some point you
got you gotta play, no matter what your intent was.
As an insurance policy, because that's really what theling was,
and I'm sure they wanted to be a feel good story.
You got to end up playing the players that you
want to play now. You also have to have a
quarterback who can you know, throw decently, which JJ McCarthy
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Different person I thought we were keeping Joe Ryan.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Well for the purposes of the bed intend to he
had to go for whatever he could. Something should also
be said about feeling talking about a meaningful game. There
haven't been a lot of those for the Vikings in
a while.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, I guess there's some truth to that too. Steelers
are weird because I don't think they're a great team,
but they're in pretty good position right now. The conversation
all last week was is it over for Mike Tomlin?
Does there need to be a clean break? Does there
need to be a reshuffling. He's been there what nineteen
years now. That was a conversation that range. Yeah, yeah,
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that was a conversation last week about him because they
were coming off another loss.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Very very true, Davey, have you.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Heard about the controversy at the end of the Raiders
Broncos game? Yes, like the field goal into a touchdown
Skyview tell me about it.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Well, I've heard a.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Little basically, Well here, let me let me read it
from just to set it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
We don't need to spend a lot of time on it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Fourth quarter, Bronco had the ball out a fourth and
four at the twenty eight yard line, but opted not
to go for the field goal that would have extended
their lead to twenty seven fourteen make it a thirteen
point game. Instead, they run the ball for no game,
so the Raiders take over on downs with under thirty
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seconds to go on the clock, they spiked the ball,
or after spiking the ball and leaving sixteen seconds left,
Canny Pickett found wide receiver Tyler Lockett for a massive
game that would have ordinarily seen the clock run down,
but a delay of game penalty was called, which allowed
Vegas to set up and convert a field goal in
the dying seconds.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Now, So, basically, if I.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Understand this correctly because I did not watch any of
this game, on the last play of the game, literally.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
They try a field goal.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Pete Carroll asked for a field goal that obviously is
not going to change the outcome, but does change those
who've bet on this game.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah. I'm not a.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Big believer in betting conspiracies. I have very little sympathy
for folks in that regard. But I have to tell you,
what's the point If if you could tell me, well,
there's gonna be two seconds left out of the field
goal and then we're gonna try an on side kick,
you know we're gonna and you need two scores. Okay,
But if this is literally the last play of the game,
which I think it was, then what's the point in
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all seriousness of trying a field goal?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
There?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
What in the in the in the football you know,
uh philosophy and pecking order of what you're supposed to do.
In sachiaty, we never give up. What difference does it
make whether you hit? What do you accomplish by that
field goal? I would much rather you try a hail
Mary or something else. It's less likely to result in points,
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I guess, but I I'm trying to figure out what.
I wonder what Pete Carroll said about kicking the field goal.
But the better is including who's the big shot betting
guy who's he's got his own net where he's on
a couple of the sports channels, whose name I can't
even remember.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He's got a huge visibility.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
He lost his mind business said Pete Carroll should be murdered,
you know, which I think he meant that sarcastically. It's
still not the that barstool guy is exactly Yeah, I
did see that. So does that make I mean, it
really doesn't make a lot of sense to me to
kick a field goal there at all, regardless of whether
you think that's part of the conspiracy. The only thing
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I can say is by kicking that field goal, the
Raiders then scored the most points they had scored since
they scored twenty nine points to a lot in a
loss to the Jaguars like six games ago. Because they
scored seven sixteen, ten, fourteen, And then, yes, I'm not
defending it would be the only yeah, that would be
my assumption and say you want to, you know, keep
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trying to score last. Get that in there or weird
to me, he's the head coach in Vegas and maybe
some people have visited him recently.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Well, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
That's where the conspiracy isspiracy comes in. There's no question
about that. I I I don't know. I just I
just I do wonder sometimes what these these coaches think
they're accomplishing. You know, it's it's it's if you're playing,
if you're literally playing to the last down, then play
to the last down. You don't kick a field goal.
It just seems kind of silly to me. And you're
kind of asking for conspiracy talk on the basis of
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the way this thing played out, that's for sure. Oh
what other Well, I'll save it. I'll save it because
we're guessed free. We got Cashman at five point fifteen,
so we have plenty of time between five thirty and
six thirty to get I want to get into the
the Bowl controversy, not Bowl controversy, the playoff controversy.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Who's in and who's not in?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Because my very casual college football eye thinks there's too
much attention on one team and not enough attention on another. Team,
but we'll we'll maybe discuss that later. And by the way,
the Gophers are now confirmed. You're on your way. You
will be on your way to Arizona for December twenty
sixth date with Destiny.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Against New Mexico. A hot team. They tell me they're
pretty good, like five or six in a row. Yeah,
they had a good season, and that's because Iowa State
said we ain't going in Kansas State. Two teams, two
different teams from the Big twelve that lost their coach
and had coaching changes. Right, So yeah, we're going there.
It's the Patino Bowl, Minnesota versus New Mexico. I'm trying
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to get him to come to maybe do the coin toss.
He's got time. They don't play Yukon until the thirty first,
so he's got a little pocket a time.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
He didn't come out to the desert. Very busy man.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
They had a big win Friday, they'd beat crosstown rival Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, that's a big at all.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Two teams that don't like one another, he said, it's
the craziest rivalry he's ever been a part of. Very
Adam feeling like jab at Gophers Badgers. Let's do this,
Let's get a pause in prepare to chat with Nacho
liber Ben Lieber, who apparently predicted kind of sort of
predicted the outcome of Vikings versus the Washington Command and
(25:00):
so he will not get ripped by the whoever runs
social media for Vikings, for the Vikings X channel, that's
for sure,
Are these numbers accurate?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Guard See Gopher women's basketball team takes a ninety nine
to ninety lead over the University of Maryland on two
free throws by your gal Mara Braun. That's with fifty
four seconds left? Is that time right? Fifty four seconds
or fifty I've heard different versions of this. Either way
(00:41):
that sounds that's that's accurate. They led by nine in
the final minute, and then Maryland gets two free throws
ten seconds later to cut it obviously to seven. Then
we turn it.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Over our next three possessions.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, and on the first two steals lead to three
point plays. So sack to baskets and fouls and free
throws mate, exactly right?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Correct, Yes, back to back within seconds of each other.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And to boot, we lose two of our most important players,
fouling out on each of those fouls on the first one,
and Gray Grohalski who had thirty one points and nine
threes in the other one. So mathematically this seems impossible.
Maryland scored eight points in nine seconds. Yeah, that pulls
(01:32):
it there. The Turps to within ninety nine to ninety
eight with thirty five seconds to go.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Then we commit another turnover battle I believe correct. That
was in the front court. That wasn't as opposed to
the back court. They were letting. They were going to
let the Gophers run it down and try to get
to stop. They break the press. Finally they get it
into the front court. Battle throws it to the left
corner where she thought her teammate by Glenn would be
and Glenn was cutting back door. Carlin then gets the
(02:01):
ball back. They take a time out, and they get
a goal ahead layup correct. Yes, and then with a
second to go, bron misses a three pointer. Yes, the
only field goal attempt we took in the final minute
because of the turnovers, that would it makes sense? Yeah,
and the rest is history. I mean, that's the kind
(02:21):
of game that, if you're not careful, can stick with
you for a long time. I mean, that's that's a
calendar that is absolutely worthy of the Calendar of Calamity
in a basketball sense. Obviously, if the Wolves do that
and they're playing Phoenix tonight they blew a big lead
against Phoenix, it becomes a big story.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
How was it in the gym? What was it?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
How would you describe the mood in the gym? Shock stunned,
gob smacked, silent dead. It was unbelievable. I've never seen
anything like it. I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, yeah,
that's and people that saw it. It was on Big
ten network yesterday. People that's saw it. It was just
panicked turnovers where they literally threw it right to a
(03:04):
Maryland player who laid it in and they fouled them.
It was stunned silence because as you laid out, they
were up nine, they had controlled the second overtime, they
had controlled the first overtime. They also led by five
with less than twenty seconds to go in the first
overtime and had a turnover there after Maryland made a
really long three pointer to give them hope. Seventh rank Maryland,
(03:27):
we should add, for those who don't know exactly, the
always good historic Maryland. And it was stunned. It was
just stunned silence. After the game, Maryland was down by
as much as fifteen the first half. Correct, Yes, Gophers
led by fourteen at half time, so obviously playing pretty well.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Gophers played great.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yes, first overtime, we're up five with nineteen seconds to go,
so how do they get five points?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
The rest of that.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The overtime, Maryland hits a three from the Cambria logo,
you know, kind of a we just got to take
a because we got twenty seconds left. They make it.
Gophers inbound it to the corner. McKinney may have gotten fouled,
but then they trapped her. She steps on the right
sideline right in front of the Maryland bench, so they
(04:15):
get turned on the back right there, and then the Gophers,
I think, had an opportunity to win it. Then it
was it was a crazy game, and it was Calamity
is the word for it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It's devastating.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's a devastating loss because it's Maryland exactly, because it's
everything that they represent. And this was a big, you know,
stepping stone you're trying to make that next step up.
And they played outstanding. I mean, they controlled the entire
first half. Maryland went to his zone in the third quarter.
That gave him some trouble, let them get back into
the game. Maryland led by five fourth quarter, Gophers found
(04:48):
a way to get it back to tie it in overtime.
It was a great game and they should have won it.
They should have wanted them in the first overtime and
absolutely the second in the second overtime. So that's of
course the channel. And now you got to you gotta
get them, yeah you now, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You can't. You can't.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You can't let it be compounded by the trauma to
the point where you you're affected. I think you're our
next opponent, though we don't have it.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Non conference again. Yeah, so you've got Indiana at the
end of the month. You have a chance to get
well again. I speaking of comments from coaches, and again
you work with her and I'm not here, you know,
to put you on the spot here, but I I
guess I still look, she has to, you know, plits
White has to think about what we're just talking about.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
She the psyche, the psyche of her player. So the
last thing she wants to do is gut them when
they're down, right, even though deep down she might have
every right to want to on the basis of the
way the thing played out. But I and maybe this
is the only quote I saw, isn't isn't indicative of
what what she said in the larger since during the
(05:55):
course of the presser, I'm really proud of our young ladies.
I thought they competed their hearts out. They played a
really high level against one of the best teams in
the country. You felt like that was our game to
get Maryland credit. They never gave up. I mean just
I guess I need a little something, you know, a
little something like well that that can't happen. Well, is
that just not in her? Is that just not the
She's cable. I don't think she's going to do that publicly. Ever,
(06:16):
I think she's always she might. Privately she might, And
if you watch her on the sidelines when that stuff
is going on, you can not like it. Well she's like,
at what the hell are we doing? Yeah, you can
see that, But when she speaks about it publicly, No,
she's not.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Going to take that approach, unfortunately. True.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
All right, it was crazy, man, I mean it was crazy. Well,
like I said, I I want to go back, and
you said it was on yesterday replayed, Well, it was on.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Big ten network. I'm sure they'll replay it at some point. Yeah,
I got it. I I would like to.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I mean, because they played so well, that's the devastating tact,
like you put yourself in a position multiple times to
win the game, Yeah, and somehow don't win it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
We've got Ben Lieber later.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
This hour, We've got Cashman in the five o'clock hour.
Got many more vikings talking points to get to. It's
somebody once said, I think it was SID. It's a
crazy league, the National Football The latest example would be,
I think the Bears, on the basis of one loss,
one actually competitive loss against the Green Bay Packers, have
(07:15):
gone from the top seed in the NFC to the
seventh seed. One loss took them from one to number seven.
So we may expand the conversation and get into some
other stuff within the division. But as I said, some
other good vikings talking points to get to. There's a
lot on the platter the rest of the way. We
hope you'll hang with us back in just a minute
(07:36):
here in.
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Speaker 1 (08:05):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Could you see a bear's melt down and a lion's
melt down with the Lions winning the last game of
the year and the Vikings winning out and making the
last game of the year meaningful, you it'd be fun.
I the Bears are capable of anything. I mean, the
Bears schedule is very hard down the stretch.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They do host Cleveland this week. That's a game they
have to win or they are going to find themselves
in some significant trouble.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But we're not.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
We are definitely not mathematically eliminated yet, but I don't
think we're that far off either. So I you know,
are there people holding out some kind of a slim
hope that somehow a bunch of other teams could implode
and we could we could we could matriculate ourselves back
into the playoff chase. I'm sure there's a few of
(08:59):
those people out there. Number Yeah, I understand a little
bit of that. You know, you want to hold on
to whatever hope you have, But I don't think it's
very realistic at this point. But I haven't done all
the permutations. What happens is people get they see like,
here's who's in who, here are your division leaders, here
are your wildcard teams, and then they have that in
(09:20):
the hunt in the hunt is my favorite.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And if they put you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
In the hunt, I think people get excited.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Like, well, they put us in the hunt, we must
be in the hunt, right, you know what, we're right there?
I mean we were We're not the top team in
the hunt. H we're in the hunt. In the hunt,
so and I.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But does in the hunt anymore mean we haven't been
mathematically eliminated yet?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
What doesn't mean you really.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Are in the hunt? I think it really means you're
technically kind of in the hunt. I guess it depends
on the week. But we haven't been in the hunt
on that graphic for a while. I don't think we've
been in there having I don't think so. I thought
we were somewhere the other day. Were in yesterday. I
I didn't even see the graphics. The victory they decided to,
(10:04):
you know, give us a little a little bit of love.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And in the hunt is great.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Ben Johnson's Pecs, Guardsys, criked neck, Vike just got flexed
Wolves and five. I don't think we got flex though.
It does the same guy do that every day? It's
a different amazing thing. Well, he does it a lot.
That's flim flam, but there are several other people who
do it. They're they're they're totally into it. I think
(10:30):
the the silver lining is that we were not deflexed
out of this Sunday night football game with Dallas. But
like you said last week, it's Dallas. It's always going
to be Dallas is always going to be in there there.
It takes a lot to deflex Dallas.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Let's squeeze in another talking point right now.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I want to credit fully and completely our guy Mark
Craig from The Star to Bune, because he's my inspiration here.
I call this particular talking point.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Thank you. CJ. Ham. Now out of the.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Gun, McCarthy under some pusher, he's gonna tuck and run
and dive ahead close to the sticks.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
CJ.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Ham did everything he could to keep that play alive
with a good block and McCarthy moves the.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Chains with a scramble run.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
And really the most impressive thing about this watch JJ McCarthy,
just his ball carriage, how he's carrying the ball in
the pocket. They run a little bit of a game
where von Miller spikes inside bring the pressure, and how
he holds onto this ball as he has a defender
swiping at it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It's really disciplined football.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Great pocket presence by JJ McCarthy there and then the
presidents of mind to take off, run, dive Ford get.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
The first down.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's the voice of Drew Brees, color analyst in the game. Yeah,
and you heard also from play by play guy, I
think it was Adam Amen.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, I mean there's no question that ham was massed.
Now PJ, PJ. JJ handled it very well, as as
was said during that sound bite. And I don't when
I in real time lifetime, I thought he almost fumbled
the ball, but he didn't almost fumble it. His arm
got hit a little bit, but he had control of
(12:12):
the ball, I believe the entire time. And he made
something out of nothing to keep the That's the beginning
of the the ninety eight yard drive. Correct, that went
on for Yeah, that was the first third down, and
he would that last lunge he got the first right,
that was it. I mean, he wouldn't get it without
that last lunge I don't believe. And the last lunge
(12:33):
by c J. Hamm kept him point that that stuff.
You know, again, the non sexy stuff is very instrumental
often in in this case like I.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Said, it saved, not just to play, it saved the drive.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Now you don't know at that point it's going to
be a nineteen play drive obviously, but we talked about,
you know, this offense just staying on the field, not
having enough play, and they had plenty of plays yesterday
for sure, maybe for the first time this season. I
got a text earlier from someone saying, are we going
(13:12):
to talk about the Adam Feelin.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Comments? Now?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I have to find out if they're the same comments
I have read.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Or if I've missed something.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Are you aware of some things Adam Thieln had to
say after I'm not He took place he started for
the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers held off the Baltimore Ravens.
I think the final score was twenty seven to twenty two.
Here's the quote, let me find the right I had
(13:47):
it and I lost it. Let me find the right
spot to get it here it is, well, I think
this will be the same maybe be the same deal.
He Feeling basically said that he it's been Here's the
quote to Jackals after the game, It's.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Been a wild week.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I found my love for the game back just being
out there playing the game. I love, just thankful to
be out there and thrown into a huge game and rivalry.
He confirmed last week that he intends to retire following
this season, so I guess the Texter may have looked
I assume was taking it like, well, that's a little
bit of a jab at how he felt coming back home.
(14:30):
I don't know if it was meant that way or not,
but I will say a couple of things for the
In the game itself, I think he only had one
catch for four yards, which is not that different frankly
than when he was here. However, he was out there
more often and he did start. I think it was
out I think he played twenty five snaps. Yeah, in
the past five weeks. He played twenty four snaps for
the Vikings. And somebody said there was also a pass
(14:53):
intended for him. I think the one he caught was
a red zone catch, and then there was another pass,
a longer pass intended for him that tipped. And I
think Rogers has already had some complimentary things to say
about him, but.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
It's the most he played since when.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
The first three games of the season, right, So as
I understand it, I don't think the Steelers are viewed
as having had the wide receiver depth that we have.
I love their number one guy, although he hasn't been
used great this season. Yeah, he had a big catch yesterday,
think a big touchdown, a big long one in fact,
or at least one that's set up a touchdown. But
(15:34):
the truth is Pittsburgh needs a wide receiver obviously more
than the Vikings do.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
The Vikings have more depth at the position.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Now based on the way the offense has been the
last several weeks, you'd say, well, could you tell?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But so I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Too far down the rabbit hole of you know, the
Vikings have been As much as I like to do
the we didn't need him bit, and I might have
done it if i'd seen the quote just for the
sake of the bit, I'm not meaning it. My heart
isn't in it. Like well, we blew it. We blew
it on Adam feeling. It's just a circumstance. Was he
(16:09):
got caught up in the numbers here, whereas we said,
there were no injuries at that position, and Pittsburgh's a
little more desperate, I think for in their mind they're going,
let's take a flyer, you know, let's take a flyer
and as it was one catch four yards.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
My seat's going down again. That happens.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It happens all the time. So unless there's another quote,
I think that's the one. I think that's getting the
run and I have no problem with it. No, I
don't have no problem with it. I'm sure you asked
him about it multiple times, not every week, as you said,
but you asked him about it all. We were all
watching his snaps go down. And if it is in
fact his last year, which they said at the time,
and I think even his wife on an Instagram video said,
(16:46):
I don't blame him, right, I don't blame him for
wanting to go somewhere else and play more. And I'm
sure it was frustrating to not be out there when
you know your clock is ticking, even if you aren't
the Adam feeling of.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, and he drops some balls, that's true, So that's
on him too a little bit. He has not been
as sure handed as his reputation as he has tended
to be. But in any case, I yeah, I think
if they're Vikings fans bitter about what he is saying,
I think that's a little much touch some grass. Yeah,
it's just not it's he's an emotional guy. There's no
(17:19):
question about that. He's always been an emotional player, and
for him, it's just I'm out there more so it's
easier to love the game again if I'm out there more.
I don't think that necessarily has to mean he's indicting
the Vikings. The Vikings correct didn't have that much room
for him, as I think maybe maybe he didn't. He's
competitive enough to think he should have been out there more,
(17:40):
I'm sure, but I don't buy it on that level.
I don't think, and I certainly don't buy it on
the level of, well, we really blew it, you know,
he really as he could have been a great asset
to what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I think we've seen.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
In the development of Naylor leaving Addison for aside for
the moment that you know that this team does have
some wide receiver debs.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I think Naylor's had a great year.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yes, I don't think you should so probably what her
feeling big time is he kept at some point you
got you gotta play, no matter what your intent was.
As an insurance policy, because that's really what theling was,
and I'm sure they wanted to be a feel good story.
You got to end up playing the players that you
want to play now. You also have to have a
quarterback who can you know, throw decently, which JJ McCarthy
most assuredly did yesterday. Aquarius Home Services has your shot
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(18:51):
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Speaker 1 (18:54):
Different person I thought we were keeping Joe Ryan.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Well for the purposes of the bed intend to he
had to go for whatever he could. Something should also
be said about feeling talking about a meaningful game. There
haven't been a lot of those for the Vikings in
a while.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, I guess there's some truth to that too. Steelers
are weird because I don't think they're a great team,
but they're in pretty good position right now. The conversation
all last week was is it over for Mike Tomlin?
Does there need to be a clean break? Does there
need to be a reshuffling. He's been there what nineteen
years now. That was a conversation that range. Yeah, yeah,
(19:32):
that was a conversation last week about him because they
were coming off another loss.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Very very true, Davey, have you.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Heard about the controversy at the end of the Raiders
Broncos game? Yes, like the field goal into a touchdown
Skyview tell me about it.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Well, I've heard a.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Little basically, Well here, let me let me read it
from just to set it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
We don't need to spend a lot of time on it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Fourth quarter, Bronco had the ball out a fourth and
four at the twenty eight yard line, but opted not
to go for the field goal that would have extended
their lead to twenty seven fourteen make it a thirteen
point game. Instead, they run the ball for no game,
so the Raiders take over on downs with under thirty
(20:20):
seconds to go on the clock, they spiked the ball,
or after spiking the ball and leaving sixteen seconds left,
Canny Pickett found wide receiver Tyler Lockett for a massive
game that would have ordinarily seen the clock run down,
but a delay of game penalty was called, which allowed
Vegas to set up and convert a field goal in
the dying seconds.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Now, So, basically, if I.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Understand this correctly because I did not watch any of
this game, on the last play of the game, literally.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
They try a field goal.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Pete Carroll asked for a field goal that obviously is
not going to change the outcome, but does change those
who've bet on this game.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah. I'm not a.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Big believer in betting conspiracies. I have very little sympathy
for folks in that regard. But I have to tell you,
what's the point If if you could tell me, well,
there's gonna be two seconds left out of the field
goal and then we're gonna try an on side kick,
you know we're gonna and you need two scores. Okay,
But if this is literally the last play of the game,
which I think it was, then what's the point in
(21:24):
all seriousness of trying a field goal?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
There?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
What in the in the in the football you know,
uh philosophy and pecking order of what you're supposed to do.
In sachiaty, we never give up. What difference does it
make whether you hit? What do you accomplish by that
field goal? I would much rather you try a hail
Mary or something else. It's less likely to result in points,
(21:47):
I guess, but I I'm trying to figure out what.
I wonder what Pete Carroll said about kicking the field goal.
But the better is including who's the big shot betting
guy who's he's got his own net where he's on
a couple of the sports channels, whose name I can't
even remember.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He's got a huge visibility.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
He lost his mind business said Pete Carroll should be murdered,
you know, which I think he meant that sarcastically. It's
still not the that barstool guy is exactly Yeah, I
did see that. So does that make I mean, it
really doesn't make a lot of sense to me to
kick a field goal there at all, regardless of whether
you think that's part of the conspiracy. The only thing
(22:28):
I can say is by kicking that field goal, the
Raiders then scored the most points they had scored since
they scored twenty nine points to a lot in a
loss to the Jaguars like six games ago. Because they
scored seven sixteen, ten, fourteen, And then, yes, I'm not
defending it would be the only yeah, that would be
my assumption and say you want to, you know, keep
(22:49):
trying to score last. Get that in there or weird
to me, he's the head coach in Vegas and maybe
some people have visited him recently.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Well, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
That's where the conspiracy isspiracy comes in. There's no question
about that. I I I don't know. I just I
just I do wonder sometimes what these these coaches think
they're accomplishing. You know, it's it's it's if you're playing,
if you're literally playing to the last down, then play
to the last down. You don't kick a field goal.
It just seems kind of silly to me. And you're
kind of asking for conspiracy talk on the basis of
(23:20):
the way this thing played out, that's for sure. Oh
what other Well, I'll save it. I'll save it because
we're guessed free. We got Cashman at five point fifteen,
so we have plenty of time between five thirty and
six thirty to get I want to get into the
the Bowl controversy, not Bowl controversy, the playoff controversy.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Who's in and who's not in?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Because my very casual college football eye thinks there's too
much attention on one team and not enough attention on another. Team,
but we'll we'll maybe discuss that later. And by the way,
the Gophers are now confirmed. You're on your way. You
will be on your way to Arizona for December twenty
sixth date with Destiny.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Against New Mexico. A hot team. They tell me they're
pretty good, like five or six in a row. Yeah,
they had a good season, and that's because Iowa State
said we ain't going in Kansas State. Two teams, two
different teams from the Big twelve that lost their coach
and had coaching changes. Right, So yeah, we're going there.
It's the Patino Bowl, Minnesota versus New Mexico. I'm trying
(24:24):
to get him to come to maybe do the coin toss.
He's got time. They don't play Yukon until the thirty first,
so he's got a little pocket a time.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
He didn't come out to the desert. Very busy man.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
They had a big win Friday, they'd beat crosstown rival Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, that's a big at all.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Two teams that don't like one another, he said, it's
the craziest rivalry he's ever been a part of. Very
Adam feeling like jab at Gophers Badgers. Let's do this,
Let's get a pause in prepare to chat with Nacho
liber Ben Lieber, who apparently predicted kind of sort of
predicted the outcome of Vikings versus the Washington Command and
(25:00):
so he will not get ripped by the whoever runs
social media for Vikings, for the Vikings X channel, that's
for sure,
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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Dateline NBC
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