August 1, 2025 • 46 mins
Brian Johnson ends his long exile from the show with a look at 10 players whose average draft position has moved dramatically since training camp started.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and
whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now,
here's your host, Paul Chargion.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hello and welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
We're in August.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah baby, it's heating up, literally and figuratively. Drafts are
getting close. Training camps happening, We've got actual football games
going on. My co host today, Brian Johnson. Your last
show was how long ago?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Brian?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I'm sure a lot has changed since. I think there
was an NFL draft that happened.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You may have missed an entire draft, your last.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Cover, your last today. Right, We're gonna go for everything
that I've missed.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Your last show is in March. Come on, man, you
can't go that long without being on the show.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Not cool, goodes.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
I was too busy doing hundreds of best ball drafts
to prepare for this one episode.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
It's this not even a best ball heavy episode, I
don't think.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
But it's uh to tip our hat a little bit.
We're talking ADP in this show. It's it's I think
it's right now. The best ADP you can get is
best ball ADP, because that's been living, breathing.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah for months January. Yes, Yeah, yeah, for sure, and that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Is what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
We're here to talk about EIGHTP movers. We're gonna give
you five of the biggest movers upward, five of the
biggest movers downward, and for each one of those players,
we will tell you whether or not it is an
overreaction or an appropriate reaction by the drafting public.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
You know how much us fantasy footballers love to overreact
one way. Oh god, yeah, the training camp news videos, rumors,
all that stuff, and they are a bound.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
They are a plenty, absolutely absolutely going on now as
we're taping on Friday afternoon, Micah Parsons asking for his
trade from Dallas. He is obviously a great player, not
a ton of fantasy factor here because he's a defensive player.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But man, it's just the Dallas.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Has got the stench of death on it right now,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Brian. I just don't.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I don't feel comfortable with anybody, and I gotta wonder
if Ceedee Lamb, who's the the one cowboy we care
most about. I wonder if Ceedee Lamb isn't going to
end up being ultimately hurt by what could be a
lost season for Dallas.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I mean, reality wise, the Cowboys are cooked, but I
don't think our expectations are very high for them. I
will contest, you know, on your Ceedee Lamb, And it's
from a fantasy football perspective. Yeah, in general, a bad
defense is better for the offense, right, passing game, right,
So yeah, what's what's ding the Dallas backs even more?
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But I think I think one of those might even
come up a little.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, the Cowboys, Uh yeah, they're not America's team.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
They're not man Well, we don't want to talk about
the Minnesota Twins, but they're they're basically the Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Of the NFL. Point, but the Twins are the Cowboys
of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Micah Parsons with A had a written statement in which
he pretty aggressively goes after the team talking about how, uh,
they've had really no serious negotiations with his agent, and
they he had kind of like a in passing Hallway
discussion himself with Jerry Jones, and that Jones took it
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to be like an official negotiation and expected him to
sort of live by the terms of that conversation, but
it wasn't when his agent wasn't even present.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So I don't know, man, this thing is that.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Thing's going to turn super ugly.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Cowboys don't even pay their cheerleaders who have like an
Emmy Award winning series on Netflix right now. I didn't
know that they pay him like free s ray hands.
It's like, good Michael Parsons, no one's getting anything.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Man, this is what happens with This is nepotism run
wild with Dallas. This is like a perfect case study
and why an owner should not be running a franchise
and loading the team up with his family.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
So, man, I didn't know we were going to drag Dallas,
so I would have prepped a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, we didn't know Michael Parsons was going to request
to tray Well, there were some rumors that was coming.
But yes, all right, let's dive into overreaction or appropriate reaction.
I want to start with some five players that are
moving up draft boards, beginning with new England wide receiver
Defon Digs ADP of seventy four and he's improved half
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around in the past two weeks.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, a significant move.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
And really like when you're moving up half around, guys
are getting drafted like the guy is like Digs in
this case, is getting drafted almost around ahead because you
know the ADP doesn't totally adjust right away. So he's
on the rise. He's kind of been fluctuating all off season.
For those who don't remember, he was on the Texans
last year towards ACL week eight, missed the remaining nine
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games signed by New England in March optimist, optimistic for
week one, so he was in the wide receiver of
thirty five is range. Then early spring early summer reports
where he's probably gonna end up on the pup list,
so he plummeted a little bit like a round or two.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
But now he avoided the pupp list.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
He's in tramp in the tramp camp and training camp,
and the reviews raving reviews right now, Stefan Diggs saying
he looks great and you know in the past New
England's past game not exciting.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But Drake may I think passed the test last year.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
He did that was and it was a hell of
a test too. By the way.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
That was a trial by fire for Drake May.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He is legit Drake May. And Diggs is too unhealthy.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
He's getting up there in age, but he's not He's
not old by any means. And right now, wide receiver
forty one. Yeah, I'm opting this. I think people got
this right. I'm buying the rip on digs and it's
still He's going in the sixth round wide receiver forty
one and the ceiling is very high for Diggs, and
I think a safe floor as long as he doesn't
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get hurt.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But you can say that for anybody, right, So I'm
in on this on this rise. The just fun.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
There's so little competition for Diggs in the on the
roster for the Patriots. Pop Douglas is a is a
slot receiver, doesn't really affect Diggs very much. Nobody else
has proven themselves. Rookie Kyle Williams, his the camp reports
are all very inconsistent. Keisha, I'm booty looks looked good
in a couple of splashes in moments last year, but
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he's totally unproven. Jalen Polk looks like that's that experiment's
already over four nailed this last year, didn't like the
pick then doesn't like it now. So Stefan Diggs looks
like the go to receiver along with one of my favorite,
like emergency ripcord tight ends, Hunter Henry, who you know,
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if I I rarely stilet tight end, but if I'm
gonna do it, Hunter Henry is that last tight end
that I feel like I could go to because I
to your point, Drake May. I think Drake May looks
like he's he is an NFL caliber passer and there
just aren't a lot of other options out there.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, and you know we want to factor by weeks.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
You have the factor by weeks are important in all formats,
especially euetheene leagues. Of course, Patriots got the week fourteen
by you gotta like that, well, you kind of gotta
like that. That's a long time to go before a
bye week, hopefully, you know, but injury risk but we're
not talking about that now. But yeah, in on Digs
all right, this brace and I think he'll creep up more.
I think he's gonna keep rising.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, it's people get a little more comfortable with him.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, I wish you weren't so old,
but you know, there's still just fantasy football is as
much as anything about opportunity, and the opportunity is right
for Diggs even if he's ninety eighty five percent of
what he was pre injury.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Let me ask you this real quick, Just right in
the range right now where Diggs is going, you can
get Olave who gets his bell rung a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
At quarterback or question marks.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Quarterback, question marks, Micnams, John Jennings injured, Jordan Addison like him,
but JJ McCarthy, question mark could get suspended.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So yeah, Digs in that range, I'm liking him a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So you believe that this is an appropriate reaction to
move up on Diggs?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Is appropriate?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes? Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
The second player moving up Indianapolis quarterback Anthony Richardson ADP
way down at one hundred.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That's an improvement of almost a full round in the
past two weeks. And the reason he's rising, of course,
is because he fell tremendously in June. We were told
his shoulder injury would potentially keep him out of the
entire training camp, and Richardson needed a big training camp
to beat out Daniel Jones. So is his ADP absolutely crashed?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But here we are you know?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Last week training camp started and Richardson was a full participant.
His ADP is moving back up. Unfortunately, Richardson and Daniel
Jones have garnered negative media reports throughout early training camp.
They both looked pretty bad. I'll remind you Brian Richardson
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is on pace to be the worst passer in starting
quarterback history. His completion percentage incredibly bad. Somehow, He's completed
just forty eight percent of his passes last year, and
he threw eight touchdowns to twelve interceptions. I mean, you're
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really the barely acceptable level of that ratio is two
touchdowns for every interception is barely acceptable. And he's eight
touchdowns twelve interceptions.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So I bet you Daniel Jones is hot on his
tail in that regard.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
To as could be Yes, all right, numbers. Here's the myth.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm gonna try to bust on Richardson, and I'm anti Richardson.
I just I've been saying this for thirty years. Sooner
or later, you have to be able to pass to
be a functional quarterback in the NFL. Richard hasn't done
that yet. Everybody thinks that Richardson's got this freaky upside
Daniel Jones in his last full season, which granted was
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three years ago twenty twenty two, but his last full
season he averaged more fantasy points per game than Richardson did.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Daniel Jones was eighteen fantasy points per game. Richardson last
year was sixteen. So I don't think Richardson brings all
that much value. And Richardson also, by the way, Torpedoes
Michael Pittman, Josh Downs, Alec Pierce, and probably rookie tight
end Tyler Warren with him. So I am team Daniel Jones,
and I say over reaction on Anthony Richardson moving up
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this much in the hopes that he starts.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
What do you think, Brian, Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
It seems like, you know, quote unquote, they get a
little too excited when he like completes a pass in
training camp. It's like, all right, let's pump the brakes there,
he's got a I don't know, the good. The good
gets overblown with Richardson. I the he's just a little
too dice. He's I mean, compared to last year he
was a top five quarterback in terms of ADB. Yeah,
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that blew up in everyone's face. So you're not paying
that price by any means. But I'm with you where
I don't think this is an appropriate rise. I don't
think it's still neck and neck with Daniel Jones in
my mind. Let's see what happens when there's some actual
preseason game action. I don't I'm not buying this rise
just off practice right now.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
They brought in Jones for a reason, and he is
definitely threatening his Richardson's job. Can you even call it
Richardson's job? No, one's job.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
No, it's no, absolutely, not absolutely.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I'm going elsewhere a quarterback. All right, we are really late.
Give me Sam Darnold all day long, you know me.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Reminder, by the way, Richardson's the guy who tapped himself
out of a play because he was tuckered out last year.
Remember that nobody does that in the NFL. That stuff
is that'll stick with people, all right, Brian our third
big mover up Houston running back Nick Chubb current ADP.
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One hundred and sixty six. That's an improvement of two
full rounds in two weeks. Overreaction or appropriate reaction?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
What do you think? This is a tough one.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Obviously, the movement is due to Joe Mixon. The report
on Joe Mixon, his ankle hasn't healed from offseason surgery.
He's not looking like he's gonna be ready to start
the season. So it looks like it's Uh. Nick Chubb's
job was only signed about a month ago by Houston.
You know, Nick Chubb has had his health issues in
the past, uh, serious health issues, but.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
He he is healthy now.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
You can't expect him to be the Nick Chubb of
old So right now, like you said, pick one sixty six,
that's late in drafts, like round thirteen fourteen, he's RB
fifty two. You want, I want to believe Nick Chubb
is going to get like seventy percent, Yeah, at the
gate without Joe Mixon. But I don't believe that they
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drafted Woodie Marks, who was kind of more of a
third down you know, back past catching specialists. From what
I've heard, he's not. He's not a bell cow, you know,
Bulldozer b Any.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, probably not.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
What about what about your boy Damian Pierce?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Though I know nobody ever just writing off Amy and Pierce.
Come on, so I mean the.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I I'm not buying the rip on Chubb, mainly because
my bags were packed in like the one ninety range. Yeah,
I was drafting him when he he wasn't on a team,
so but that's anecdotal, of course. But I think in
general you you shouldn't buy this hype. I don't think
it's an appropriate reaction right now. For all we know Houston,
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even if Mixing misses more time, there's free agent running
backs out there, like Devin's Singletary could come back to Houston.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I think he could, you know, I don't know. It
doesn't seem like Nick Chubb is cemented as the guy there.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
So even though it's latent drafts, I'm not gonna people
are reaching higher than this one sixty six too, you.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Know, yeah, like I've got him higher.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
It's I actually did a draft last night. Let me
see where it went real quick.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And I'll mention this while you're looking on Chubb.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Part of I like him in Guillotine, particularly because I
think he's going to be the starter for the first
month of the season, and in Guillotine we care about September.
We're just trying to stay alive in September, and I'll
replace Nick Chubb through the waiver wire with somebody else
at some point if Mixon comes back and looks great.
And the other thing on Mixon that worries me down
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the stretch. Last year he faded hard. He was basically
one of the three or four worst running backs by
almost any metric you want in the final third of
the season. Last year, offensive line didn't get a lot better.
I'm just I'm mixing, just didn't pass the eye test.
I'm more optimistic about Nick Chubb, only twenty six years old,
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still bouncing back off that uh that that acl from
two years ago, and I'm I just think Nick Chubb
might be the better back at this stage, and I
think he's going to hold the job longer than you do.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Brian, all right, well I hope you are right, but yeah,
back to Mixon real quick.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
We've I don't have the research in front of us,
but the underlying number is for him back in his
glory days with the Bengals, when he was you know,
a Pro Bowl, they were never good.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
He was like averaging four yards per carry. It best man,
Nick was.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That dude was a tough.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Sorry sorry, okay, yes, yep, yep, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Mixon's fantasy success which was not trivial was largely driven
by being one of the few work horsebacks in the
NFL on often some pretty decent Bengals offenses. And it
wasn't because Mixon was an amazing talent. I think it
was mostly just that he got a lot of work
in a decent offense.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yep, all right, the.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Next player, our fourth player jumping up draft boards, and
I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It's Tank figs me.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, baby, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I can't wait. I can't wait to bring this back.
I can't do it yet. So I'm cutting off the
peacock now. But I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It will have taken two years, but I'm I believe
I'm going to be proven right on Tank Bigsby is ADP.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
One hundred and fifty three an improvement.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Of I've said it a few times. How like the
number it's jumping up last night?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yep, it's jumping right now, which.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Is twelfth round? He went before Tootin. Well he should
absolutely should for sure, Yes.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
But Naji Harris, uh Dylan Samson, who's viewed as the
starter in Cleveland right nowat yeah, but anyway, carry on for.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
The entirety of Jaguars camp, and I think the Jaguars
is going to be the most improved offense in the NFL.
For the entirety of Jaguars camp. He is getting the
majority of the first team reps, Travis Etn getting third
down reps because Tank can't catch. And that's that's the
comparison I love to give is that he is going
to be new head coach Liam Cohen's new Bucky Irving.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Bucky can catch, and that makes your Bucky's going to
be better.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
He's in PPR leagues particularly Obviously, Bucky's going to be better.
But Liam Cohen saw what Bucky did to unlock that
Tampa offense in the second half of the season when
Bucky was just mowing people down, and Tank's built that way.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Let me give you some Tank.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Numbers over Bigsby's two year career. Here's where he ranks
among running backs with at least two hundred carries, of
which there's plenty because two hundreds not that much. Over
two years, Tank Bigsby ranks sixth in yards after contact,
fourth in avoided tackle rate, and tenth in rushes per touchdown.
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Tank Bigsby is a really good power back and I
believe he is going to be your first and second
down back for the Jaguars. And not only is this
an appropriate reaction, it's an under reaction by the drafting public.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Brian, I'm kind of with you, and I feel like.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Who needs a running back out there? Feel like Etn,
I don't know. This is just like a weird gut feeling.
I feel like he gets traded. He feels gad It's
is gonna get traded at some point.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I don't know why they are.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Look, they're they're running back hungry teams Dallas, as we
mentioned earlier, where that could make sense, that could Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Straight up, straight up terror this.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Let's remind people that Jerry Jones gave up a was
it a fourth rounder last year to Carolina for Mingo
Jonathan Mingo, who.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Went on to catch like one cast with the team
first round draft capital, just like Travis Etn has no
There you go, Jacksonville Counts.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I'm gonna double check that Mingo's even on the Cowboys
roster right now, because I don't think I have a
ranking on Jonathan Mingo right now.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Let me take a look Mingo.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
On roster on roster. Highlight of the Panthers eason last
year was that trade.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh that had to be.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I wonder who they I don't remember who they who
the Panthers drafted with that pick, but I think it's
gonna work out better than Jonathan Mingo.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Did, unless you forget even though now he's he's not
on a team anymore. But they traded Amari Cooper for
a fifth round picker.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
He did.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I know he was good for a couple more years.
The Cowboys unbelievable.
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Speaker 1 (21:47):
Our final high moving ADP player is Tampa Bay wide
receiver Amika Agbuca ADP eighty an improvement of half around
in two weeks, i'd be.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I am very interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
He is going in your yesterday's Best Ball draft as well,
because he is rocketing up draft boards and we'll find
out if that's an overreaction or an appropriate reaction.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
What do you think he is going? Well?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Well, not well before, but he's going before Chris Godwin now,
and he's the reason why he's he's surging. His reports
are Godwin's ankle might not be ready for week one,
So uh, Andre Muka, who let's see when seventy seventh
in this draft last night in the seventh round, which
was six picks before Godwin. So that's the reason for
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the surge. I don't know if it is appropriate. He
is a blue chip prospect. He was a first round
pick out of Ohio State. There's there's even with Godwin
if godwould miss his time. There's competition for targets on
the Bucks with Mike Evans, Jayleen McMillan, nice player.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I like McMillan. And by the way, his ADP is
just absurdly low. It's like one hundred and eighty.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
It's yeah, my highest owned, my personally highest owned wide
receiver in best Well, I just smashed and oh I
love that draft.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
But all all winter, spring, summer, but.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Uh, and you know, and then Rashad why there's a
lot of weapons, Bucky Bucky Irving.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
This seems a little rich for and at the same time,
you know, the Bucks lost all world left tackle Tristan works.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
For probably a month five weeks.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Ye, while this surge is going for Abuca, Mayfield's been
dropping almost around Yeah, when I can talk about him
in next segment. So like, I don't know, it doesn't
marry up where there's concern for the offense.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Godwin will come back at some point. I'm pretty confident
in that. And you know Evans, who knows Mike Evans
is the man.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I don't know. This a little bit of a reach
for me in the seventh round when I can get more.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Like I could, I could have drafted or this guy
could have drafted Khalil Shakir.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Wow, Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I'm people are off I do not want Cooper Cup.
You can, you can have.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I would take Cooper Cup over Eggbuka.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I personally, uh, Darnell Mooney, he's hurt right now, but
a healthy Darnald Mooney would trust over ag Buka.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
I think it's it's not an appropriate reaction right now.
I think people getting a little too excited. There's been
some some cool catches which has fueled this fire you
know that are circulating on Twitter from training camp.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
But I don't know. Rookies are a little dicey.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
They they can, they can, they can they can pop
off obviously, but yeah, I'm I'm pumping the brakes here.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'm not gonna buy this rip for non guillotine news.
I'm in I think this is an appropriate reaction. Guillotine
scares me a little bit more. Although start of the
season does look like egg Buka is gonna be your
starting slot receiver. Last year, the Bucks pounded the slot
receiver Chris Godwin until he got hurt. He was one
of the most targeted players in THEFL. He's averaging nine
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targets a game nine times, nine times. And Buka is
gonna walk right into that. He's NFL ready because he
was a starter for three years at Ohio State, and
his skill set, his professionalism all top of the line.
And I think he just starts and never looks back.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I think Godwin, when Godwin's healthy, he will get on
the field some.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
But I don't think.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I don't think Abuk is going to give up the
give up the job. He's the first rounder, he's the future,
and I think Godwin's gonna be the odd man out
even when even when he comes back healthy. By the way,
you see Godwin. Do you see the picture of Godwin's two.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Ankles, Yeah, one they did. They don't match.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
They don't match. I mean, the ankle injury was horrific.
And he has one ankle that looks normal, and I mean,
and now we're like ten months off that injury. He
has one ankle that looks normal and the other ankle
is like fifty bigger. It's not He's still ain't right.
We'll take a break, Brian. When we come back, five
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players moving down the ADP lists, will talk about who's
going later and whether or not that is an overt
reaction or appropriate reaction. When we come back to Fantasy
Football Weekly, welcome back, Paul Charchie and Brian Johnson with you.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
You can follow us on X.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I am at Paul Charchie and Brian is at bt X. Jay, Brian,
you're ready to talk about the players moving down and
whether or not these are appropriate reactions.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Stock down, Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
This is this is kind of funny, and you and
I talked about whether or not we should really do
this one. But Minnesota wide receiver Justin Jefferson has moved
down one spot. He's moved from third overall pick to
fourth overall pick. The players going ahead of Jefferson are
Jamar Chase, sa Kwon Barkley, and Bjon Robinson. You know
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we've been saying his name wrong all this time. I
try to change it out of respect for him, and
I feel like we should try to get guys names right.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah, but going back to the one spot, people are
probably kind of scoffing at that that that is very
significant when you're talking at the very top of the
draft board, one whole spot.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
And this is like a two week span too, So
there's serious panic. And I've been in drafts where I've
seen him go.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Six, seventh, eighth, which was not the case before the
reasoning you will you will.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Well, Jefferson tweaked his AMSTRM. Now Kevin O'Connell has made
it clear that he's going to be fully rested for
a couple of weeks here in training camp and is
in zero danger of missing week one. And here's why
this is important. Kevin O'Connell is a straight shooter. He
if he needs to equivocate, he will, but he almost
never just like flat out lies most of the time.
If he gives you a concrete answer, it's legit.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
He very rarely.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
His coach speak index, which if you're not following on
Twitter you should is ninety percent. It's like the highest
of all coaches in the NFL SO, and then you
add in JJ McCarthy, who has looked mostly good in
the preseason. I don't think Jefferson's one spot move relates
to newfound concern with McCarthy, because I know McCarthy's doing
exactly what we expected him to do at this point.
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I think the only reason to pass on Jefferson is
that McCarthy is going to throw less. Kevin O'Connell's going
to ask his first year quarterback to throw less often.
I think the volume is going to come down, and
so if you want to make a case that Jefferson
should go behind proven, high volume guys, ceede Lamb. They're
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gonna have to throw a lot. As we alluded to
earlier in the show, Pukaku has always pelted with targets.
If you want to put him after those guys, I'm
actually fine with that.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Brian, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, there's Concider and the Bikings have they should have
a great defense, great defense. So yeah, I cannot fault
anyone for taking pretty much anyone in the first round
over Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I mean hamstrings.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
You can read that that can linger, you know, and
you can't win your league in the first round, but
you can lose it. And I'm not saying you're gonna
lose if you draft Justin Jefferson. But I think this
is an appropriate reac I mean, have you have you
adjusted your rankings, like, have you put anyone ahead of
one or two players? No?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Well, I know I've got to.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I've had Jefferson four all along, so I've got I've
got him at four. I am considering moving him below
Lamb into Koua for volume, but I also have Ashton
Genty in that rate in that range. Just because I
love having I love having like high. I'll put rookie
running backs. It's always fun.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Going all the way back.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I had Ezekiel Elliott as my number one running back
his rookie year. So you know, I've just always I've
just always been willing to play that that elite. If
you get an elite rookie drops into the right spot
running back, I'm willing to take that guy high.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Yeah, and with guys like Nico, Well, Jefferson's got a
a solid running mate and in Jordan Addison, but Nico
Puka Nakua has now got you know, Devonte Adams alongside him.
Aman Rossaint Brown's got some competition. These are you know,
these are other wide receivers that are that you could
take instead of Justin Jefferson. Uh, you know, Nico, they
got Jaden Jaden Higgins. They sunk a lout of draft
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capital in Christian Kirk is coming back. So I think
basically for me, I would still take Jefferson over Nico Nikua.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Sung God neighbors. Uh not ten out of ten times,
like seven out of ten times.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
But I think for me, now I got Cede Lamb
firmly ahead of Justin Jefferson, where I would maybe like
toggle between the two, you know, if I'm doing multiple drafts,
but I feel like CD's safer.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Now, Okay, let's go to our next ADP Faller. And
this guy is ADP thirty five down a full round
in two weeks.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Who is it, Brian?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Well, well, it's one of my my my legal guys.
We're getting to the legal issues here, she Rice. Who was.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
He talk about fluctuation? He was about a mid third
round hit early in draft season. Then he was getting
steamed like I was mid second round. He's starting to
get into the early second round until his legal issues arose.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Where I'm not.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Gonna get into the weeds here, but yeah, he's gonna
go to jail at some.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Point during his probationary period. He has to serve it.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
So yeah, but he's got he's got like two years
to decide, and I think he gets to pick when
he goes, which is weird.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
So suspension is looming. And again you said thirty five.
That's his ADP in the draft last night. Forty five
fifth in the late fourth round.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
I mean there's a chance he doesn't get suspended this year, right,
I mean he will at some point he does. I mean,
aside from the legal stuff. Shredded his knee early last year,
but he has looked great all offseason. There's really no
concerns with the injury from the trusted Internet doctors out there.
It's all about the suspension. Man, they gave Justin Tucker
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ten games, not saying what what he.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Is, two different things or whatever. It's all but.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
On that scale to what she wrote, she writes did
some serious in so man. But so let's say it's
forty five now not thirty five. I mean, the dip
is appropriate, but I'm gonna roll the dice on it
in this weight fourth round range.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
So you're saying appropriate reaction at now, but not ADP
thirty five, you're talking forty five.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
What you what you saw?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
I guess thirty five was appropriate. Now that I'm seeing
forty five, I think that's a little.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
That's an overreaction, a little overreaction.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
And I'm so I'm buying that. I'm Brian Race at
that price. Okay, uh yeah, we're gonna want him to
sort of get justice to be siver. I don't know
who goes yes.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I've moved that guy around so many times for most
of the offseason where Shei Rice was somebody I was
very interested in, and I had him ranked in the
low thirties, maybe even the middle thirties. I was really interested,
and I've got him on a bunch of my early
best ball teams. Then when all this went down, I've
kind of struggled a little bit with trying to find
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really the right resting place man, even in non guillotine leagues.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I love having hot starts.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Who wants to I don't want to start owing three
because my second best wide receiver is has missed three games.
I hate starting a season where I'm already desperate by
the time October rolls around.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I've struggled with Rice a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
All right, Brian, let's go to our next dropper, and
I think that's gonna be I think this is a
situation that's correcting himself. It's Dallas running back Jayden Blue,
the rookie ADP one fifty six, down a full round
over the last two weeks. But I think that's in
the middle of correcting. And you can take a look
at your draft from last night. Two weeks ago, one
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of the Cowboys coaches, a guy named Glenn Smith, called
Jaydon Blue borderline lazy and without anything else to go on.
Two weeks ago, the public punished Jaydon Blue down two rounds.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
But that's old news.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now, media observers and coaches are praising Blue in a
way that they aren't praising any of the other running backs.
Brian Schottenheimer said, this is a direct quote. I'm impressed
with Blue's speed, his dynamic playmaking ability, and the professionalism
he's shown at camp. Nobody else is being talked about
as a playmaker from that running back group. Blue is
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not getting first team reps at this point, Brian, but
he's the only Dallas runner who's got an iota of explosiveness.
I think he could get third down work early in
the season, and if that goes well, Jaydon Blue's role
will expand beyond that.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah, I think it could be a slow start, but
I do think the opportunities there in that backfield. I
do like Miles Sanders if he can stay healthy. I'm
out on Javonte Williams. I think we were both in agreement.
You go with cheaper backs. But like you alluded to,
the ADP is correcting and that it has it has
reversed course a little bit based on the positive reports,
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because at first they were negative reports about Blue something. Yeah,
but he went not one fifty one, so he went
five spots ahead of the one to fifty six.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Okay that he's listed at. So yeah, a little bit
of a slingshot going on.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
So all right, I say I'm going to go overreaction
because I believe that Blue should be at a higher
level than where he has where he's settled right now,
all right, Brian, the next player moving down ADP is
one hundred and ten down two rounds in two weeks.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Who are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
By the way, I think the one of the only
unsigned players in the rookie draft class.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Yeah, it doesn't help his cause and there'll be more
legal issues to discuss. It's Quinn Shawn Judkins, the second
round pick for the Browns. As you mentioned, unsigned in
like a domestic disturbance incident. You know, there's still some
legal stuff that we work out.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
But he's not in camp. He's a rookie, even he
was the supposed starter going in.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
But I mean they did draft Dylan Samson a little later,
didn't invest as much in Samson. They still have Jerome Ford,
who's proven back proven you know, he can produce, he
knows the system well. So it's a crowded backfield and
what doesn't project to be one of the best offenses
in the league. I think it's safe to say, even
though I would love to see Joe Flacco, you can't
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say run it back, but sort of run back that
the brief magic he's flashed in the past. But I
don't know, this isn't an appropriate reaction. I I don't
want any part of Judkins. I look at the shares
I have and I'm like, it's disgusting. Even I've seen
him drop. He's listed at one ten I've seen him
go like in the one twenties, one Thirtiesang, wow, I'd
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entertain it there, depending on what I had in my
backfield at that point in the draft.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Right but yeah, I don't know who. I mean, he's
not signed.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah, in Cleveland is not too generous as far as
I know, just throwing money around.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Well, they threw money at their quarterback who had significant
legal problems. But I think they're almost like course correct
for that.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
They've learned their lesson there. Maybe, so maybe that probably
doesn't help Judkins.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Knows here exactly. They got burned on it once, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
It is a in a So yeah, I'm trying to
trying to find the exact spot he went here.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Right now, I've got Judkins quite a bit higher than this,
and maybe I'm just slow to slow to react to this.
For for full season redraft, I've got him at ninety.
I think at this point, like Travion.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Henderson is quite a bit more compelling right now.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Yeah, you gotta pay more for Trevion. So Judkins went
one twenty last night right in the Zach Charbone.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You know, Okay, this is how you win the best
ball league, though, Brian.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yeah, I know, I know, I know it's not, but
it's I mean, what's your point there, I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Well, but this is I'm saying this is these are
differ win your ball and and all that. But yes,
to win your best ball league, and you know, and
I guess to some degree any league, you have to
find some guys who are who end up being tremendous values.
And for sure, for all the reasons that Cleveland drafted
quinch on Judkins and we think we thought at the
day of the draft, we thought that was that he
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was going to run away with the arting job and
at worst be you know, get the majority of the work.
Taking a gamble on him falling this late is exactly
the kind of thing that ends up being a league
winner when it works.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
No doubt, without doubt. But it could also be a
wasted picks.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yes, yes it can, but you have to you're trying
to distinguish yourself from especially in Best Ball hundreds or
thousands of different leagues so and teams rosters, and that's
one way to do it.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
At the end of the days, he's an ideal.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Do the opposite running back right now, if you're just
you're loading up on running backs late and you just
hope that he does see the field at some point
this year.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
But who's to say he's better than Dylan Samson Jerome Fort.
No one knows. I mean, just as he was drafted higher, but.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Our final guy.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So was that an overreaction or appropriate reaction?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
By the way, for Quinn Shawn Judkins.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
I believe appropriate, even though you know he's listed at
one ten w twenty. It's I think it's appropriate in
the one ten. Okay, maybe dropping a little to the
one twenty one thirties, maybe that is not appropriate. And
that's where I'm back into buying, maybe throwing it, throwing
a dart at judkins availability.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Our final player ADP one hundred and thirty three down
a full round in two weeks, and that's Chargers running
back Nausey Harris. At the Thursday night Hall of Fame game,
Jim Harbaugh acknowledge that it's too early to even put
a timetable on Harris's return to action after that fireworks
incident that left him with an eye injury that we
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don't know how long it's going to go. You know,
here's the thing where it's really tricky, Brian. If we
if he had, say, an MCL sprain. We've got thousands
of MCL sprains to go back on and look at,
and we know the timetables for MCL strains. We don't
know the timetable for a fireworks accident in the eye
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we have.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
You know, we have nothing to go on with that.
The only thing that we've.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Gotten is Naji Harris's agent who called it superficial. But
I don't trust whoever Naji Harris's agent is particularly in
this in this matter. So what it's doing is it's
giving Omari and Hampton an entire preseason with the Chargers
first team offense, and Hampton only three carries last night,
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that was Thursday night on the.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Hall of Fame game. Looked I thought he looked good.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
On two of the three carries. Didn't look great on
the stretch play. And he's always going to be a
better inside runner, I think than he's going to be
a lateral runner. But you know, for Harris down to
ADP one thirty three, that's pretty low. And I but
you know what, when I look at the players that
are going in that range, that feels about right. I
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think I think he's it just don't feel comfortable with
him regaining the starting spot maybe at any point this season.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Yeah, I'm I'm in agreement with you there. He's just
not an exciting guy in the first place. The draft, no,
I know, the great the greatest, well, they're all horrific,
and I don't wish eye injuries on anyone, but the
most famous eye injury.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
It's not real, thankfully.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
I don't know who you're thinking of any given Sunday.
Remember the scene where some player has eyeball ripped out?
That wasn't like the big playoff game was like, all right, Oliver.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Much there? Funny?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, I think so we're gonna I'm gonna go with
appropriate reaction for the punishment of Najee Harris on this.
It's uh, it's unfortunate, but I think there really is
a scenario here for Hampton ends up just running with
the ones all pre season and just rolls that right
into the regular season, and now Najie Harris is just
like third down change of pace.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Guy Matthew Berry's Ride or Die player.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
He announced it on the Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Yeah, oh, Diddy, Hampton for better for us, We'll see, Yeah, Okay,
but the opportunity is there?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
It sure is? It sure is not.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Offensive line probably the best in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Chargers, Yeah, I mean, they've poured so much draft equity
into that offensive line over the years. I don't know
if like the metrics bear it out as the best
offensive line, but it's a it's a good one.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
So they got.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I'm trying to remember their offensive line top of my head.
They got Slater at left tackle. He's great, Zion Johnson
was a first rounder at center, and Joe Alt was
a first rounder at right tackle. And I'm forgetting the guards,
I guess, but those guys are all obviously first round
equity and good players.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
Yeah, I'm just looking through a couple. They're like, definitely
a top ten unit, just based on some consensus. Rashaun
Slater left tackle, Bradley Boseman is the left guard, okay,
Zion Johnson center, McKai Beckton, All.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Right, McKai Beckton landed there, that's right, That's right.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
And then Joe Alt big time draft pick.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, from the year before last. All right, Brian, Well,
this has been a ton of fun. We've got one
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I don't know.
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I'm sure a lot has changed since. I think there
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You may have missed an entire draft, your last.
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Cover, your last today. Right, We're gonna go for everything
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I was too busy doing hundreds of best ball drafts
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It's this not even a best ball heavy episode, I
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But it's uh to tip our hat a little bit.
We're talking ADP in this show. It's it's I think
it's right now. The best ADP you can get is
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Yeah for months January. Yes, Yeah, yeah, for sure, and that.
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Is what we're talking about.
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We're here to talk about EIGHTP movers. We're gonna give
you five of the biggest movers upward, five of the
biggest movers downward, and for each one of those players,
we will tell you whether or not it is an
overreaction or an appropriate reaction by the drafting public.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
You know how much us fantasy footballers love to overreact
one way. Oh god, yeah, the training camp news videos, rumors,
all that stuff, and they are a bound.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
They are a plenty, absolutely absolutely going on now as
we're taping on Friday afternoon, Micah Parsons asking for his
trade from Dallas. He is obviously a great player, not
a ton of fantasy factor here because he's a defensive player.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But man, it's just the Dallas.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Has got the stench of death on it right now,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Brian. I just don't.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I don't feel comfortable with anybody, and I gotta wonder
if Ceedee Lamb, who's the the one cowboy we care
most about. I wonder if Ceedee Lamb isn't going to
end up being ultimately hurt by what could be a
lost season for Dallas.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I mean, reality wise, the Cowboys are cooked, but I
don't think our expectations are very high for them. I
will contest, you know, on your Ceedee Lamb, And it's
from a fantasy football perspective. Yeah, in general, a bad
defense is better for the offense, right, passing game, right,
So yeah, what's what's ding the Dallas backs even more?
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But I think I think one of those might even
come up a little.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Yeah, the Cowboys, Uh yeah, they're not America's team.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
They're not man Well, we don't want to talk about
the Minnesota Twins, but they're they're basically the Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Of the NFL. Point, but the Twins are the Cowboys
of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Micah Parsons with A had a written statement in which
he pretty aggressively goes after the team talking about how, uh,
they've had really no serious negotiations with his agent, and
they he had kind of like a in passing Hallway
discussion himself with Jerry Jones, and that Jones took it
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to be like an official negotiation and expected him to
sort of live by the terms of that conversation, but
it wasn't when his agent wasn't even present.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So I don't know, man, this thing is that.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Thing's going to turn super ugly.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Cowboys don't even pay their cheerleaders who have like an
Emmy Award winning series on Netflix right now. I didn't
know that they pay him like free s ray hands.
It's like, good Michael Parsons, no one's getting anything.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Man, this is what happens with This is nepotism run
wild with Dallas. This is like a perfect case study
and why an owner should not be running a franchise
and loading the team up with his family.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
So, man, I didn't know we were going to drag Dallas,
so I would have prepped a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, we didn't know Michael Parsons was going to request
to tray Well, there were some rumors that was coming.
But yes, all right, let's dive into overreaction or appropriate reaction.
I want to start with some five players that are
moving up draft boards, beginning with new England wide receiver
Defon Digs ADP of seventy four and he's improved half
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around in the past two weeks.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, a significant move.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
And really like when you're moving up half around, guys
are getting drafted like the guy is like Digs in
this case, is getting drafted almost around ahead because you
know the ADP doesn't totally adjust right away. So he's
on the rise. He's kind of been fluctuating all off season.
For those who don't remember, he was on the Texans
last year towards ACL week eight, missed the remaining nine
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games signed by New England in March optimist, optimistic for
week one, so he was in the wide receiver of
thirty five is range. Then early spring early summer reports
where he's probably gonna end up on the pup list,
so he plummeted a little bit like a round or two.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
But now he avoided the pupp list.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
He's in tramp in the tramp camp and training camp,
and the reviews raving reviews right now, Stefan Diggs saying
he looks great and you know in the past New
England's past game not exciting.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But Drake may I think passed the test last year.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
He did that was and it was a hell of
a test too. By the way.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
That was a trial by fire for Drake May.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He is legit Drake May. And Diggs is too unhealthy.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
He's getting up there in age, but he's not He's
not old by any means. And right now, wide receiver
forty one. Yeah, I'm opting this. I think people got
this right. I'm buying the rip on digs and it's
still He's going in the sixth round wide receiver forty
one and the ceiling is very high for Diggs, and
I think a safe floor as long as he doesn't
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get hurt.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But you can say that for anybody, right, So I'm
in on this on this rise. The just fun.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
There's so little competition for Diggs in the on the
roster for the Patriots. Pop Douglas is a is a
slot receiver, doesn't really affect Diggs very much. Nobody else
has proven themselves. Rookie Kyle Williams, his the camp reports
are all very inconsistent. Keisha, I'm booty looks looked good
in a couple of splashes in moments last year, but
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he's totally unproven. Jalen Polk looks like that's that experiment's
already over four nailed this last year, didn't like the
pick then doesn't like it now. So Stefan Diggs looks
like the go to receiver along with one of my favorite,
like emergency ripcord tight ends, Hunter Henry, who you know,
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if I I rarely stilet tight end, but if I'm
gonna do it, Hunter Henry is that last tight end
that I feel like I could go to because I
to your point, Drake May. I think Drake May looks
like he's he is an NFL caliber passer and there
just aren't a lot of other options out there.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, and you know we want to factor by weeks.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
You have the factor by weeks are important in all formats,
especially euetheene leagues. Of course, Patriots got the week fourteen
by you gotta like that, well, you kind of gotta
like that. That's a long time to go before a
bye week, hopefully, you know, but injury risk but we're
not talking about that now. But yeah, in on Digs
all right, this brace and I think he'll creep up more.
I think he's gonna keep rising.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, it's people get a little more comfortable with him.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, I wish you weren't so old,
but you know, there's still just fantasy football is as
much as anything about opportunity, and the opportunity is right
for Diggs even if he's ninety eighty five percent of
what he was pre injury.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Let me ask you this real quick, Just right in
the range right now where Diggs is going, you can
get Olave who gets his bell rung a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
At quarterback or question marks.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Quarterback, question marks, Micnams, John Jennings injured, Jordan Addison like him,
but JJ McCarthy, question mark could get suspended.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So yeah, Digs in that range, I'm liking him a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So you believe that this is an appropriate reaction to
move up on Diggs?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Is appropriate?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes? Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
The second player moving up Indianapolis quarterback Anthony Richardson ADP
way down at one hundred.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That's an improvement of almost a full round in the
past two weeks. And the reason he's rising, of course,
is because he fell tremendously in June. We were told
his shoulder injury would potentially keep him out of the
entire training camp, and Richardson needed a big training camp
to beat out Daniel Jones. So is his ADP absolutely crashed?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
But here we are you know?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Last week training camp started and Richardson was a full participant.
His ADP is moving back up. Unfortunately, Richardson and Daniel
Jones have garnered negative media reports throughout early training camp.
They both looked pretty bad. I'll remind you Brian Richardson
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is on pace to be the worst passer in starting
quarterback history. His completion percentage incredibly bad. Somehow, He's completed
just forty eight percent of his passes last year, and
he threw eight touchdowns to twelve interceptions. I mean, you're
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really the barely acceptable level of that ratio is two
touchdowns for every interception is barely acceptable. And he's eight
touchdowns twelve interceptions.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So I bet you Daniel Jones is hot on his
tail in that regard.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
To as could be Yes, all right, numbers. Here's the myth.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm gonna try to bust on Richardson, and I'm anti Richardson.
I just I've been saying this for thirty years. Sooner
or later, you have to be able to pass to
be a functional quarterback in the NFL. Richard hasn't done
that yet. Everybody thinks that Richardson's got this freaky upside
Daniel Jones in his last full season, which granted was
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three years ago twenty twenty two, but his last full
season he averaged more fantasy points per game than Richardson did.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Last year.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Daniel Jones was eighteen fantasy points per game. Richardson last
year was sixteen. So I don't think Richardson brings all
that much value. And Richardson also, by the way, Torpedoes
Michael Pittman, Josh Downs, Alec Pierce, and probably rookie tight
end Tyler Warren with him. So I am team Daniel Jones,
and I say over reaction on Anthony Richardson moving up
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this much in the hopes that he starts.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
What do you think, Brian, Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
It seems like, you know, quote unquote, they get a
little too excited when he like completes a pass in
training camp. It's like, all right, let's pump the brakes there,
he's got a I don't know, the good. The good
gets overblown with Richardson. I the he's just a little
too dice. He's I mean, compared to last year he
was a top five quarterback in terms of ADB. Yeah,
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that blew up in everyone's face. So you're not paying
that price by any means. But I'm with you where
I don't think this is an appropriate rise. I don't
think it's still neck and neck with Daniel Jones in
my mind. Let's see what happens when there's some actual
preseason game action. I don't I'm not buying this rise
just off practice right now.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
They brought in Jones for a reason, and he is
definitely threatening his Richardson's job. Can you even call it
Richardson's job? No, one's job.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
No, it's no, absolutely, not absolutely.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I'm going elsewhere a quarterback. All right, we are really late.
Give me Sam Darnold all day long, you know me.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Reminder, by the way, Richardson's the guy who tapped himself
out of a play because he was tuckered out last year.
Remember that nobody does that in the NFL. That stuff
is that'll stick with people, all right, Brian our third
big mover up Houston running back Nick Chubb current ADP.
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One hundred and sixty six. That's an improvement of two
full rounds in two weeks. Overreaction or appropriate reaction?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
What do you think? This is a tough one.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Obviously, the movement is due to Joe Mixon. The report
on Joe Mixon, his ankle hasn't healed from offseason surgery.
He's not looking like he's gonna be ready to start
the season. So it looks like it's Uh. Nick Chubb's
job was only signed about a month ago by Houston.
You know, Nick Chubb has had his health issues in
the past, uh, serious health issues, but.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
He he is healthy now.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
You can't expect him to be the Nick Chubb of
old So right now, like you said, pick one sixty six,
that's late in drafts, like round thirteen fourteen, he's RB
fifty two. You want, I want to believe Nick Chubb
is going to get like seventy percent, Yeah, at the
gate without Joe Mixon. But I don't believe that they
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drafted Woodie Marks, who was kind of more of a
third down you know, back past catching specialists. From what
I've heard, he's not. He's not a bell cow, you know,
Bulldozer b Any.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, probably not.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
What about what about your boy Damian Pierce?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Though I know nobody ever just writing off Amy and Pierce.
Come on, so I mean the.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I I'm not buying the rip on Chubb, mainly because
my bags were packed in like the one ninety range. Yeah,
I was drafting him when he he wasn't on a team,
so but that's anecdotal, of course. But I think in
general you you shouldn't buy this hype. I don't think
it's an appropriate reaction right now. For all we know Houston,
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even if Mixing misses more time, there's free agent running
backs out there, like Devin's Singletary could come back to Houston.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I think he could, you know, I don't know. It
doesn't seem like Nick Chubb is cemented as the guy there.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
So even though it's latent drafts, I'm not gonna people
are reaching higher than this one sixty six too, you.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Know, yeah, like I've got him higher.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
It's I actually did a draft last night. Let me
see where it went real quick.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And I'll mention this while you're looking on Chubb.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Part of I like him in Guillotine, particularly because I
think he's going to be the starter for the first
month of the season, and in Guillotine we care about September.
We're just trying to stay alive in September, and I'll
replace Nick Chubb through the waiver wire with somebody else
at some point if Mixon comes back and looks great.
And the other thing on Mixon that worries me down
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the stretch. Last year he faded hard. He was basically
one of the three or four worst running backs by
almost any metric you want in the final third of
the season. Last year, offensive line didn't get a lot better.
I'm just I'm mixing, just didn't pass the eye test.
I'm more optimistic about Nick Chubb, only twenty six years old,
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still bouncing back off that uh that that acl from
two years ago, and I'm I just think Nick Chubb
might be the better back at this stage, and I
think he's going to hold the job longer than you do.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Brian, all right, well I hope you are right, but yeah,
back to Mixon real quick.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
We've I don't have the research in front of us,
but the underlying number is for him back in his
glory days with the Bengals, when he was you know,
a Pro Bowl, they were never good.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
He was like averaging four yards per carry. It best man,
Nick was.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That dude was a tough.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Sorry sorry, okay, yes, yep, yep, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Mixon's fantasy success which was not trivial was largely driven
by being one of the few work horsebacks in the
NFL on often some pretty decent Bengals offenses. And it
wasn't because Mixon was an amazing talent. I think it
was mostly just that he got a lot of work
in a decent offense.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yep, all right, the.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Next player, our fourth player jumping up draft boards, and
I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It's Tank figs me.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, baby, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I can't wait. I can't wait to bring this back.
I can't do it yet. So I'm cutting off the
peacock now. But I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It will have taken two years, but I'm I believe
I'm going to be proven right on Tank Bigsby is ADP.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
One hundred and fifty three an improvement.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Of I've said it a few times. How like the
number it's jumping up last night?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yep, it's jumping right now, which.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Is twelfth round? He went before Tootin. Well he should
absolutely should for sure, Yes.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
But Naji Harris, uh Dylan Samson, who's viewed as the
starter in Cleveland right nowat yeah, but anyway, carry on for.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
The entirety of Jaguars camp, and I think the Jaguars
is going to be the most improved offense in the NFL.
For the entirety of Jaguars camp. He is getting the
majority of the first team reps, Travis Etn getting third
down reps because Tank can't catch. And that's that's the
comparison I love to give is that he is going
to be new head coach Liam Cohen's new Bucky Irving.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Bucky can catch, and that makes your Bucky's going to
be better.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
He's in PPR leagues particularly Obviously, Bucky's going to be better.
But Liam Cohen saw what Bucky did to unlock that
Tampa offense in the second half of the season when
Bucky was just mowing people down, and Tank's built that way.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Let me give you some Tank.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Numbers over Bigsby's two year career. Here's where he ranks
among running backs with at least two hundred carries, of
which there's plenty because two hundreds not that much. Over
two years, Tank Bigsby ranks sixth in yards after contact,
fourth in avoided tackle rate, and tenth in rushes per touchdown.
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Tank Bigsby is a really good power back and I
believe he is going to be your first and second
down back for the Jaguars. And not only is this
an appropriate reaction, it's an under reaction by the drafting public.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Brian, I'm kind of with you, and I feel like.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Who needs a running back out there? Feel like Etn,
I don't know. This is just like a weird gut feeling.
I feel like he gets traded. He feels gad It's
is gonna get traded at some point.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I don't know why they are.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Look, they're they're running back hungry teams Dallas, as we
mentioned earlier, where that could make sense, that could Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Straight up, straight up terror this.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Let's remind people that Jerry Jones gave up a was
it a fourth rounder last year to Carolina for Mingo
Jonathan Mingo, who.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Went on to catch like one cast with the team
first round draft capital, just like Travis Etn has no
There you go, Jacksonville Counts.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I'm gonna double check that Mingo's even on the Cowboys
roster right now, because I don't think I have a
ranking on Jonathan Mingo right now.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Let me take a look Mingo.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
On roster on roster. Highlight of the Panthers eason last
year was that trade.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh that had to be.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
I wonder who they I don't remember who they who
the Panthers drafted with that pick, but I think it's
gonna work out better than Jonathan Mingo.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Did, unless you forget even though now he's he's not
on a team anymore. But they traded Amari Cooper for
a fifth round picker.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
He did.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I know he was good for a couple more years.
The Cowboys unbelievable.
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Speaker 1 (21:47):
Our final high moving ADP player is Tampa Bay wide
receiver Amika Agbuca ADP eighty an improvement of half around
in two weeks, i'd be.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I am very interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
He is going in your yesterday's Best Ball draft as well,
because he is rocketing up draft boards and we'll find
out if that's an overreaction or an appropriate reaction.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
What do you think he is going? Well?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Well, not well before, but he's going before Chris Godwin now,
and he's the reason why he's he's surging. His reports
are Godwin's ankle might not be ready for week one,
So uh, Andre Muka, who let's see when seventy seventh
in this draft last night in the seventh round, which
was six picks before Godwin. So that's the reason for
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the surge. I don't know if it is appropriate. He
is a blue chip prospect. He was a first round
pick out of Ohio State. There's there's even with Godwin
if godwould miss his time. There's competition for targets on
the Bucks with Mike Evans, Jayleen McMillan, nice player.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I like McMillan. And by the way, his ADP is
just absurdly low. It's like one hundred and eighty.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
It's yeah, my highest owned, my personally highest owned wide
receiver in best Well, I just smashed and oh I
love that draft.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
But all all winter, spring, summer, but.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Uh, and you know, and then Rashad why there's a
lot of weapons, Bucky Bucky Irving.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
This seems a little rich for and at the same time,
you know, the Bucks lost all world left tackle Tristan works.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
For probably a month five weeks.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Ye, while this surge is going for Abuca, Mayfield's been
dropping almost around Yeah, when I can talk about him
in next segment. So like, I don't know, it doesn't
marry up where there's concern for the offense.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Godwin will come back at some point. I'm pretty confident
in that. And you know Evans, who knows Mike Evans
is the man.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I don't know. This a little bit of a reach
for me in the seventh round when I can get more.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Like I could, I could have drafted or this guy
could have drafted Khalil Shakir.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Wow, Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I'm people are off I do not want Cooper Cup.
You can, you can have.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I would take Cooper Cup over Eggbuka.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I personally, uh, Darnell Mooney, he's hurt right now, but
a healthy Darnald Mooney would trust over ag Buka.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
I think it's it's not an appropriate reaction right now.
I think people getting a little too excited. There's been
some some cool catches which has fueled this fire you
know that are circulating on Twitter from training camp.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
But I don't know. Rookies are a little dicey.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
They they can, they can, they can they can pop
off obviously, but yeah, I'm I'm pumping the brakes here.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'm not gonna buy this rip for non guillotine news.
I'm in I think this is an appropriate reaction. Guillotine
scares me a little bit more. Although start of the
season does look like egg Buka is gonna be your
starting slot receiver. Last year, the Bucks pounded the slot
receiver Chris Godwin until he got hurt. He was one
of the most targeted players in THEFL. He's averaging nine
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targets a game nine times, nine times. And Buka is
gonna walk right into that. He's NFL ready because he
was a starter for three years at Ohio State, and
his skill set, his professionalism all top of the line.
And I think he just starts and never looks back.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I think Godwin, when Godwin's healthy, he will get on
the field some.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
But I don't think.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I don't think Abuk is going to give up the
give up the job. He's the first rounder, he's the future,
and I think Godwin's gonna be the odd man out
even when even when he comes back healthy. By the way,
you see Godwin. Do you see the picture of Godwin's two.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Ankles, Yeah, one they did. They don't match.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
They don't match. I mean, the ankle injury was horrific.
And he has one ankle that looks normal, and I mean,
and now we're like ten months off that injury. He
has one ankle that looks normal and the other ankle
is like fifty bigger. It's not He's still ain't right.
We'll take a break, Brian. When we come back, five
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players moving down the ADP lists, will talk about who's
going later and whether or not that is an overt
reaction or appropriate reaction. When we come back to Fantasy
Football Weekly, welcome back, Paul Charchie and Brian Johnson with you.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
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Speaker 1 (26:19):
I am at Paul Charchie and Brian is at bt X. Jay, Brian,
you're ready to talk about the players moving down and
whether or not these are appropriate reactions.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Stock down, Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
This is this is kind of funny, and you and
I talked about whether or not we should really do
this one. But Minnesota wide receiver Justin Jefferson has moved
down one spot. He's moved from third overall pick to
fourth overall pick. The players going ahead of Jefferson are
Jamar Chase, sa Kwon Barkley, and Bjon Robinson. You know
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we've been saying his name wrong all this time. I
try to change it out of respect for him, and
I feel like we should try to get guys names right.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah, but going back to the one spot, people are
probably kind of scoffing at that that that is very
significant when you're talking at the very top of the
draft board, one whole spot.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
And this is like a two week span too, So
there's serious panic. And I've been in drafts where I've
seen him go.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Six, seventh, eighth, which was not the case before the
reasoning you will you will.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Well, Jefferson tweaked his AMSTRM. Now Kevin O'Connell has made
it clear that he's going to be fully rested for
a couple of weeks here in training camp and is
in zero danger of missing week one. And here's why
this is important. Kevin O'Connell is a straight shooter. He
if he needs to equivocate, he will, but he almost
never just like flat out lies most of the time.
If he gives you a concrete answer, it's legit.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
He very rarely.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
His coach speak index, which if you're not following on
Twitter you should is ninety percent. It's like the highest
of all coaches in the NFL SO, and then you
add in JJ McCarthy, who has looked mostly good in
the preseason. I don't think Jefferson's one spot move relates
to newfound concern with McCarthy, because I know McCarthy's doing
exactly what we expected him to do at this point.
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I think the only reason to pass on Jefferson is
that McCarthy is going to throw less. Kevin O'Connell's going
to ask his first year quarterback to throw less often.
I think the volume is going to come down, and
so if you want to make a case that Jefferson
should go behind proven, high volume guys, ceede Lamb. They're
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gonna have to throw a lot. As we alluded to
earlier in the show, Pukaku has always pelted with targets.
If you want to put him after those guys, I'm
actually fine with that.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Brian, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, there's Concider and the Bikings have they should have
a great defense, great defense. So yeah, I cannot fault
anyone for taking pretty much anyone in the first round
over Jefferson.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I mean hamstrings.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
You can read that that can linger, you know, and
you can't win your league in the first round, but
you can lose it. And I'm not saying you're gonna
lose if you draft Justin Jefferson. But I think this
is an appropriate reac I mean, have you have you
adjusted your rankings, like, have you put anyone ahead of
one or two players? No?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Well, I know I've got to.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I've had Jefferson four all along, so I've got I've
got him at four. I am considering moving him below
Lamb into Koua for volume, but I also have Ashton
Genty in that rate in that range. Just because I
love having I love having like high. I'll put rookie
running backs. It's always fun.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Going all the way back.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I had Ezekiel Elliott as my number one running back
his rookie year. So you know, I've just always I've
just always been willing to play that that elite. If
you get an elite rookie drops into the right spot
running back, I'm willing to take that guy high.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Yeah, and with guys like Nico, Well, Jefferson's got a
a solid running mate and in Jordan Addison, but Nico
Puka Nakua has now got you know, Devonte Adams alongside him.
Aman Rossaint Brown's got some competition. These are you know,
these are other wide receivers that are that you could
take instead of Justin Jefferson. Uh, you know, Nico, they
got Jaden Jaden Higgins. They sunk a lout of draft
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capital in Christian Kirk is coming back. So I think
basically for me, I would still take Jefferson over Nico Nikua.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Sung God neighbors. Uh not ten out of ten times,
like seven out of ten times.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
But I think for me, now I got Cede Lamb
firmly ahead of Justin Jefferson, where I would maybe like
toggle between the two, you know, if I'm doing multiple drafts,
but I feel like CD's safer.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Now, Okay, let's go to our next ADP Faller. And
this guy is ADP thirty five down a full round
in two weeks.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Who is it, Brian?
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Well, well, it's one of my my my legal guys.
We're getting to the legal issues here, she Rice. Who was.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
He talk about fluctuation? He was about a mid third
round hit early in draft season. Then he was getting
steamed like I was mid second round. He's starting to
get into the early second round until his legal issues arose.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Where I'm not.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Gonna get into the weeds here, but yeah, he's gonna
go to jail at some.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Point during his probationary period. He has to serve it.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
So yeah, but he's got he's got like two years
to decide, and I think he gets to pick when
he goes, which is weird.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
So suspension is looming. And again you said thirty five.
That's his ADP in the draft last night. Forty five
fifth in the late fourth round.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
It's tough.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
I mean there's a chance he doesn't get suspended this year, right,
I mean he will at some point he does. I mean,
aside from the legal stuff. Shredded his knee early last year,
but he has looked great all offseason. There's really no
concerns with the injury from the trusted Internet doctors out there.
It's all about the suspension. Man, they gave Justin Tucker
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ten games, not saying what what he.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Is, two different things or whatever. It's all but.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
On that scale to what she wrote, she writes did
some serious in so man. But so let's say it's
forty five now not thirty five. I mean, the dip
is appropriate, but I'm gonna roll the dice on it
in this weight fourth round range.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
So you're saying appropriate reaction at now, but not ADP
thirty five, you're talking forty five.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
What you what you saw?
Speaker 5 (32:43):
I guess thirty five was appropriate. Now that I'm seeing
forty five, I think that's a little.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
That's an overreaction, a little overreaction.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
And I'm so I'm buying that. I'm Brian Race at
that price. Okay, uh yeah, we're gonna want him to
sort of get justice to be siver. I don't know
who goes yes.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I've moved that guy around so many times for most
of the offseason where Shei Rice was somebody I was
very interested in, and I had him ranked in the
low thirties, maybe even the middle thirties. I was really interested,
and I've got him on a bunch of my early
best ball teams. Then when all this went down, I've
kind of struggled a little bit with trying to find
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really the right resting place man, even in non guillotine leagues.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I love having hot starts.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Who wants to I don't want to start owing three
because my second best wide receiver is has missed three games.
I hate starting a season where I'm already desperate by
the time October rolls around.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I've struggled with Rice a little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
All right, Brian, let's go to our next dropper, and
I think that's gonna be I think this is a
situation that's correcting himself. It's Dallas running back Jayden Blue,
the rookie ADP one fifty six, down a full round
over the last two weeks. But I think that's in
the middle of correcting. And you can take a look
at your draft from last night. Two weeks ago, one
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of the Cowboys coaches, a guy named Glenn Smith, called
Jaydon Blue borderline lazy and without anything else to go on.
Two weeks ago, the public punished Jaydon Blue down two rounds.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
But that's old news.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now, media observers and coaches are praising Blue in a
way that they aren't praising any of the other running backs.
Brian Schottenheimer said, this is a direct quote. I'm impressed
with Blue's speed, his dynamic playmaking ability, and the professionalism
he's shown at camp. Nobody else is being talked about
as a playmaker from that running back group. Blue is
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not getting first team reps at this point, Brian, but
he's the only Dallas runner who's got an iota of explosiveness.
I think he could get third down work early in
the season, and if that goes well, Jaydon Blue's role
will expand beyond that.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah, I think it could be a slow start, but
I do think the opportunities there in that backfield. I
do like Miles Sanders if he can stay healthy. I'm
out on Javonte Williams. I think we were both in agreement.
You go with cheaper backs. But like you alluded to,
the ADP is correcting and that it has it has
reversed course a little bit based on the positive reports,
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because at first they were negative reports about Blue something. Yeah,
but he went not one fifty one, so he went
five spots ahead of the one to fifty six.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Okay that he's listed at. So yeah, a little bit
of a slingshot going on.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
So all right, I say I'm going to go overreaction
because I believe that Blue should be at a higher
level than where he has where he's settled right now,
all right, Brian, the next player moving down ADP is
one hundred and ten down two rounds in two weeks.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Who are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
By the way, I think the one of the only
unsigned players in the rookie draft class.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Yeah, it doesn't help his cause and there'll be more
legal issues to discuss. It's Quinn Shawn Judkins, the second
round pick for the Browns. As you mentioned, unsigned in
like a domestic disturbance incident. You know, there's still some
legal stuff that we work out.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
But he's not in camp. He's a rookie, even he
was the supposed starter going in.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
But I mean they did draft Dylan Samson a little later,
didn't invest as much in Samson. They still have Jerome Ford,
who's proven back proven you know, he can produce, he
knows the system well. So it's a crowded backfield and
what doesn't project to be one of the best offenses
in the league. I think it's safe to say, even
though I would love to see Joe Flacco, you can't
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say run it back, but sort of run back that
the brief magic he's flashed in the past. But I
don't know, this isn't an appropriate reaction. I I don't
want any part of Judkins. I look at the shares
I have and I'm like, it's disgusting. Even I've seen
him drop. He's listed at one ten I've seen him
go like in the one twenties, one Thirtiesang, wow, I'd
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entertain it there, depending on what I had in my
backfield at that point in the draft.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Right but yeah, I don't know who. I mean, he's
not signed.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Yeah, in Cleveland is not too generous as far as
I know, just throwing money around.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Well, they threw money at their quarterback who had significant
legal problems. But I think they're almost like course correct
for that.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
They've learned their lesson there. Maybe, so maybe that probably
doesn't help Judkins.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Knows here exactly. They got burned on it once, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
It is a in a So yeah, I'm trying to
trying to find the exact spot he went here.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Right now, I've got Judkins quite a bit higher than this,
and maybe I'm just slow to slow to react to this.
For for full season redraft, I've got him at ninety.
I think at this point, like Travion.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Henderson is quite a bit more compelling right now.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Yeah, you gotta pay more for Trevion. So Judkins went
one twenty last night right in the Zach Charbone.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You know, Okay, this is how you win the best
ball league, though, Brian.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yeah, I know, I know, I know it's not, but
it's I mean, what's your point there, I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Well, but this is I'm saying this is these are
differ win your ball and and all that. But yes,
to win your best ball league, and you know, and
I guess to some degree any league, you have to
find some guys who are who end up being tremendous values.
And for sure, for all the reasons that Cleveland drafted
quinch on Judkins and we think we thought at the
day of the draft, we thought that was that he
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was going to run away with the arting job and
at worst be you know, get the majority of the work.
Taking a gamble on him falling this late is exactly
the kind of thing that ends up being a league
winner when it works.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
No doubt, without doubt. But it could also be a
wasted picks.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yes, yes it can, but you have to you're trying
to distinguish yourself from especially in Best Ball hundreds or
thousands of different leagues so and teams rosters, and that's
one way to do it.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
At the end of the days, he's an ideal.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Do the opposite running back right now, if you're just
you're loading up on running backs late and you just
hope that he does see the field at some point
this year.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
But who's to say he's better than Dylan Samson Jerome Fort.
No one knows. I mean, just as he was drafted higher, but.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Our final guy.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So was that an overreaction or appropriate reaction?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
By the way, for Quinn Shawn Judkins.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
I believe appropriate, even though you know he's listed at
one ten w twenty. It's I think it's appropriate in
the one ten. Okay, maybe dropping a little to the
one twenty one thirties, maybe that is not appropriate. And
that's where I'm back into buying, maybe throwing it, throwing
a dart at judkins availability.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Our final player ADP one hundred and thirty three down
a full round in two weeks, and that's Chargers running
back Nausey Harris. At the Thursday night Hall of Fame game,
Jim Harbaugh acknowledge that it's too early to even put
a timetable on Harris's return to action after that fireworks
incident that left him with an eye injury that we
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don't know how long it's going to go. You know,
here's the thing where it's really tricky, Brian. If we
if he had, say, an MCL sprain. We've got thousands
of MCL sprains to go back on and look at,
and we know the timetables for MCL strains. We don't
know the timetable for a fireworks accident in the eye
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we have.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
You know, we have nothing to go on with that.
The only thing that we've.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Gotten is Naji Harris's agent who called it superficial. But
I don't trust whoever Naji Harris's agent is particularly in
this in this matter. So what it's doing is it's
giving Omari and Hampton an entire preseason with the Chargers
first team offense, and Hampton only three carries last night,
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that was Thursday night on the.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Hall of Fame game. Looked I thought he looked good.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
On two of the three carries. Didn't look great on
the stretch play. And he's always going to be a
better inside runner, I think than he's going to be
a lateral runner. But you know, for Harris down to
ADP one thirty three, that's pretty low. And I but
you know what, when I look at the players that
are going in that range, that feels about right. I
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think I think he's it just don't feel comfortable with
him regaining the starting spot maybe at any point this season.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Yeah, I'm I'm in agreement with you there. He's just
not an exciting guy in the first place. The draft, no,
I know, the great the greatest, well, they're all horrific,
and I don't wish eye injuries on anyone, but the
most famous eye injury.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
It's not real, thankfully.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
I don't know who you're thinking of any given Sunday.
Remember the scene where some player has eyeball ripped out?
That wasn't like the big playoff game was like, all right, Oliver.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Much there? Funny?
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, I think so we're gonna I'm gonna go with
appropriate reaction for the punishment of Najee Harris on this.
It's uh, it's unfortunate, but I think there really is
a scenario here for Hampton ends up just running with
the ones all pre season and just rolls that right
into the regular season, and now Najie Harris is just
like third down change of pace.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
Guy Matthew Berry's Ride or Die player.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
He announced it on the Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
Yeah, oh, Diddy, Hampton for better for us, We'll see, Yeah, Okay,
but the opportunity is there?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
It sure is? It sure is not.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Offensive line probably the best in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Chargers, Yeah, I mean, they've poured so much draft equity
into that offensive line over the years. I don't know
if like the metrics bear it out as the best
offensive line, but it's a it's a good one.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
So they got.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I'm trying to remember their offensive line top of my head.
They got Slater at left tackle. He's great, Zion Johnson
was a first rounder at center, and Joe Alt was
a first rounder at right tackle. And I'm forgetting the guards,
I guess, but those guys are all obviously first round
equity and good players.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
Yeah, I'm just looking through a couple. They're like, definitely
a top ten unit, just based on some consensus. Rashaun
Slater left tackle, Bradley Boseman is the left guard, okay,
Zion Johnson center, McKai Beckton, All.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Right, McKai Beckton landed there, that's right, That's right.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
And then Joe Alt big time draft pick.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, from the year before last. All right, Brian, Well,
this has been a ton of fun. We've got one
more short show coming next week and then we go
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