Beard Strokers

Charch, Scott and Thor identify the players they are agonizing over in their respective fantasy drafts. The crew also debates which aging veterans are completely cooked or merely medium-well. Another "well done" episode of FFW as the season draws near!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now, along with the guys.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
From dateen leagues dot com, here's your host, Paul Chargian.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hello and welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchian.
My co host today Scott Fish and thorn Nystrom.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Hey, guys, how are you doing?

Speaker 5 (00:29):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hey, it's drafting season pud right now. Not as good
as last week when we are all in person having
a few beers, having a great time, but nevertheless, this
isn't half bad. Joined by our producer Robbie Rosenhaus, we
appreciate all the work that he puts into this. We've
got a great show coming up today. We're going to

(00:50):
go through all the key training camp notes over the
last week or so, in case you missed anything. We're
gonna talk about auction strategies. We don't do enough auction
talk in general, little dillotine strategies. We're going to talk
about the hardest decision we're making in every single round
of the draft, well at least the first ten rounds
of the draft. Thors can help walk us through a

(01:13):
rookie dynasty Draft, and we're going to show you what
the public is doing for the first two rounds, and
thor will tell us what you're getting right and what
you're getting wrong. And we'll go through a segment we
did last year for the first time called cooked or medium. Well,
these are older players, find out if they're completely cooked?

(01:35):
Are they still have got a little bit left to give?

Speaker 6 (01:39):
That?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Three tough questions sleepers. So much to get to over
the course of this show again, Fantasy Football Weekly. We're
delighted you're joining us. We jump right into our training
camp notes and we begin with I believe Scott you
are up first. Sure, why not? Let's do you first?

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Sure, let's start with the doll who traded for Darren
Waller earlier this year to replace the John of Smith roll.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
If you're in a.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Deeper league and looking for tight end help, he is
now off the pup list. I don't know how much
I'm targeting him, but that's the news out of Dolphins camp.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
All right, Thorpe, Let's go to the Bills.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
The news there that has been interesting for me to
monitor is that the key on Coleman flashing thing. I
don't know that I believe it Keon Coleman, the one
trick pony, the downfield guy.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Ball skills lead his game.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
The other stuff he's never gained separation that the route
running and some of the finer points the wide receiver position.
I'll believe it when I see it on Sundays. But
it is worth noting that they say he is flashing.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
We're we're going to talk more about him later in
this show. You can get go to the Jets. Yeah,
Rookie Mason Taylor looks like the opening day starting tight
end for the Jets. In Justin Field's eighteen snaps of
the starting offense, Taylor on the field for thirteen of
those eighteen and he got zero looks with a second
and third team offense. So it looks like Mason Taylor,

(03:04):
it's gonna be your starter for the Jets. Let's see Scott.
Let's go over to the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Queer John Metchi this week. I don't know if that
has much fantasy, but if you need a backup quarterback
for Hurts or need to keep your eye on something,
Tanner McKee is having an incredible preseason and he's the
one to watch in a you know, dynasty league or
a deeper league for Jalen Hurts, his backup in a
potentially very high powered offense.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Even with McKee, I'm really glad you brought that up.
So I'm watching Eagles preseason games and I'm saying to myself,
this kid's making NFL starter passes right now, Tanner McKee's
got a little something there, And to me, this news
just makes me feel that much safer about taking any

(03:49):
part of the Eagles passing game right or all the
players thor let's go over to the Cowboys, give me
give me an update from Dallas.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
On the fantasy side of things.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
We'll stay away from the Michael thing for this show,
but on the fantasy side of things, George Pickens has
been crushing in camp. And this has been a consistent
drum beat through the Dallas Cowboys' training camp is that
George Pickens looked really good. They're really excited about George Pickens.
So some of the people who have been optimistic about
George Pickens, it's more good news.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Excellent Patriots. I've got these a little bit out of sequence,
and I apologize for that in terms of the divisions,
and that's that's on me. Travon Henderson has looked amazing,
but and we're going to talk more about him later
in this show. There are there is some downside here
that we'll want to talk about for Travon Henderson. But
I think he's flashed as much as any player, any

(04:39):
fantasy relevant player in the entirety of the NFL over
training camp. Travon Henderson. We'll talk more about where you
might be targeting him in your draft so little later
in this show. Let's go over back to Scott for
the Panthers.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
At this point, the title of this show has to
have flashing in it for some reason. Everybody's flashing. Everybody
flashing over on the Panthers side, Teto McMillan is dealing
with a hammy for the Panthers. Those can leaners, so
keep an eye on it. But he's not expected to
miss week one or anything yet.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
All right, that's good news right there. How About by
the way, speaking of flashers, like you know, like the
old school flashers, the naked people that would do some
sporting event. It's onways some dude. Nobody wants to see
the dudes flash. Nobody true, you know, it's never some
hot chick that flashes. Ever, it's always some schlubby, drunk

(05:28):
guy thor Washington Commanders, give me an update. You may
have news, may.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Have some breaking news here, and I'm going to shove
together the forty nine ers with us. The commanders today
traded Brian Robinson to the forty nine ers for a
six round pick.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
The the obvious.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Winner here and that the news is actually Jacory Krossky
Merrit Bill Krossky Merrit, who now assumes the de facto
RB one job, I mean Austin Eckler in that backfield
is going to remain doing the stuff he was doing
last year, that the passing down back and they have
talked about Chris Rodriguez as the goal line guy. So

(06:09):
it is something that bears mentioning. Like obviously Jarey Krofsky
Merrit is skyrocketting up draft boards. It will be even more.
That'll be even more of the case after today. But
do keep in mind we haven't seen a lot of
pass catching from him. The PPR folks out there. Austin
Eckler again going to keep that role and then if
Rodriguez vaulted some of his touches. But very excited about
Jacory Krofsky merrit and earned and then on the San

(06:31):
Francisco side acquiring Brian Robinson.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Here why why did they have to do this?

Speaker 6 (06:35):
After months ago they traded Jordan Mason essentially for a
fifth round pick to the Vikings because San Francisco their
rookie running back, Jordan James, has been out for most
of camp injured. That was the guy that they took
with their draft pick in April. That Patrick Taylor is
on injury reserve with the shoulder injury. Isaac Garndo just
came back to camp, but he had a shoulder injury,

(06:56):
and then of course Christian McCaffrey's coming off of his
own injury, so he felt like they needed to fortify
that backfield little bit, get a little bit of insurance.
You would assume that Brian Robinson is going to step
into an RB two role there, but he's gonna need
an injury ahead of him, obviously to Christian McCaffrey, to
be fancy relevant this fall.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
We'll talk more about the Commander's running back situation a
little bit later in this show. We'll go over to
the Giants another I think the biggest story has been
rookie quarterback Jackson Dark, who's looked good and the box
scores look good. But also looking through all his preseason passes, Oh,
that's a perfect Jackson Dart sound right there. We might

(07:33):
be using that a lot more. It's a lot of
short stuff, a lot of short passing. It's at right
at the line of scrimmage, behind the line of scrimmage,
yard ahead of line of scrimmage. And so when you
see these gaudy completion numbers, just know that he's not
thrown a lot of the lasers downfield. But maybe this
is all confidence boosting time, and overall it's still been
a really nice preseason for Dark. You can see a

(07:55):
real scenario developing perhaps later this year where Giants have
got like three wins rolling into November and they just
let Dark get some starts, and you know, you can
see that, you can see you can see the future
coming for Jackson Dart. I believe. Let's continue with news
out of training camps, including the Saints. Scott.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah, the QB competition is still completely undecided. Spencer Rattler
will start the next preseason game, and the Saints also
in an attempt they say to get younger acquired twenty
seven year old un Bailey in a clear attempt to uh,
you know what, I don't know what they're doing. It's
a clear attempt to hisself, I don't know what they're doing,

(08:35):
to be honest, just no, no clue.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
That was an on trade. That was an odd trade.
It kind of reminded me of that. And Baila is
a better player than this, but it reminded me a
little bit of the Jonathan Mingo trade a couple of
years ago, just like an out of left field overpay
for a receiver like and especially with that profile how
old Bailey is, Like, I can see the Saints being like,

(08:58):
we want to getet more receivers, Like, we're not come
to both our receiving core. But you're tanking this year. Well,
that pick you just traded is essentially a late third
round pick. I don't know that Beyle justified that cost.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
All right, let's go over to the Buccaneers. Unfortunately, Jalen
McMillan wide receiver, suffered a serious neck injury. He's going
to start the season on ir His timetable to return
looks distant, and that is yet another reason to move
Amika Eggbuka up your rankings as I have done, I
think I've got it. Buka sitting right now somewhere around
wide receiver twenty seven. It's been a just steady climb

(09:34):
up the rankings so far.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
And Chris Godwin also pulled off the pup, but that's
just so they can get him to practice early.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
They still expect October. Yeah, it's it's going to be
long term and he'll have lost his job doing Buka
by that time, and then Godwin will come back and
play out of position and blah blah blah. Don't like
don't like his outlook very much, Scott, Let's go to
the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Travis Hunter is still not practicing with that upper body injury,
but they said if there was a game, say this weekend,
he would play if there was an actual game, but
they're taking it precautious with him.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
All right, sounds good. Thorpe Colts update.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
The Colts name Danel Jones the starting quarterback. Anthony Richardson
demoted down to QB two. I think the real news
here is it's wheels up time for Tyler Warren, who
will talk about the rookie tight end. We'll talk more
about him later in this episode. But yeah, to me,
that's a big takeaway for the Titans.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
It looks like rookie receiver Elic Iomannor is going to
get significant work early in the season. Last weekend, Iomanner
played ten of eleven snaps with the first team, more
than any other receiver, although Ridley and Lockett didn't play.
But still the fact that he got all those first
team reps very promising. I think Lockett's going to be
the team slot receiver primarily, and Iomanner getting reps on

(10:48):
the outside potentially as a starter for the Titan.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
I believe he was also Brian Johnson sleeper at the
Live train Ye show last week.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, thank you for listening. We appreciate that, Scott, I believe.
Next up with the Bengals. Sure T Higgins.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
You may have seen left practice with an ankle injury
this week, but he did return and he is practicing again,
so maybe something to monitor. But if you saw the
first report and didn't see that he came back, he's good.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
All right. Let's go over to Detroit Thor.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Jamison Williams was was out there cooking Derek Stingley Junior
and their their joint team practices.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
And Jamison Williams have been looking good in camp.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, there's some depth there, right, So you know, like
the fact that that's a you know, that's an opportunity
to salvage a situation if you need to. You know,
we saw Winston fucking breakout. Yeah, we saw Winston save
the Browns to some degree last year after Deshaun Watson
got knocked out in Houston. It looks like Joe Mixon
will not be ready for the start of the season

(11:46):
with that foot injury. He could end up on the
pup list. Nick Chubb and Damian Pierce getting your first
team reps in practice. And we should also note rookie
Jaden Higgins has effectively won that outside starting spot opposite
Nico Collins. Next time may be cooked. I don't know.
We should talk about this later, yeah, I mean yeah,
maybe we should. That be a great idea. Players who

(12:08):
are cooked are merely well done. Joe Mixon coming up, Scott,
I believe. Speaking of the Browns, the Browns are yes.
Joe Flacco named the Star.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
He was lights out a couple of years ago when
he was with the team. Rookie Isaiah Bond also will
make his preseason debut off the field is she has
kept him out of camp, but it's mostly just Flaco
named the starters. The big news there, yeah, and good news.
I love that after the fantasy players on that team.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Absolutely absolutely don't have to endure a learning curve from
a rookie quarterback. Yep, I've nudged all my Browns have
just been nudging up all preseason. Let's go to Chicago,
thor what's new there.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Kyle Manogai, the rookie running back, is nicked up right now,
hoping to get him back healthy soon. We were a
little bit intrigued by Kyle manonguy the batfield situation there
with Ben Johnson not having.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Sorted itself out.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
Uh Church and I we bringing people behind the curtains
of the preseason game. We were texting about Kaylem and
on Guy's pass protection.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
He's so bad.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
He struggled on a couple of reps in that preseason game,
but was better in college at Rutgers, so hopefully he
can he can turn that around. The Bears did kick
the tires on Brian Robinson. They they did talk to Washington.
Obviously they couldn't end up getting it there, so that
makes it all the more important that Kyle and on
guy come back healthy. And then the only other thing
I wanted to toss out is Luther Burden has been

(13:29):
getting more reps and he's been getting criticized by his
head coach publicly less, but he remains behind officially behind
as on the depth chart.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, Zakias could be a problem. I mean that guy's
getting praise all training camp long, and he's getting reps
with first teams and Zachaus and Burden, it might be.
It might be a long time before Burdon is getting
reliable snaps over the course of the season, even though
he looks really good. Vikings may need to make a
move at wide receiver. Jordan Adison. Of course, three game

(14:00):
suspension to start the season. Jalen Naylor, who would have
been his backups, got a hand injury and he's not
expected to be ready for the season opener. The wide
receiver depth chart gets real thin, real fast. In Minnesota.
You're right now, if they had to start somebody, Lucky
Jackson would be a starting wide receiver for your Minnesota Vikings.

(14:21):
Let's go over to Seattle.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Scott reports out of Seattle are that Zach Sharboney is
going to have a significant.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Role in the offense this year, which is.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Pretty unsurprising given he's looked great this preseason and he
was great when Walker was injured last year.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Walker's been missing practices.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
He is back to practice now, but looks like Sharbone
is gonna be a one bet in that offense.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
All right, let's go over to the Ravens thor Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
He got his footsteps on and is missing practice time,
but he's gonna be fine. The other thing there, Ke
Tom Mitchell has looked good in camp coming off his injury,
and I believe he'll be the RB two this year.
So if you're looking for the handcoff for Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
In Pittsburgh, rookie running back Caleb Johnson has been running
with the second and third team offense. Kenneth ga Gainwell
continues to get reps ahead of him, and this could
be some Arthur smith Shenanigans shaping up here. I've got
some worry about how this is gonna go, and we're
gonna talk a little bit more about Caleb Johnson later
in this show. Scott, I think you got a couple

(15:30):
of teams left, including the.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Chargers, not much here. Just Quentin Johnson. Johnston excuse me,
injured his neck last week, but he's back at practice.
Second rounder Trey Harris is missing practice what has only
been described as tightness.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
So he's tight. I guess he's tight. Thory already mentioned
forty nine Ers training for Brian Robinson on Friday. Anything
else you want to add to the forty nine ers report?

Speaker 4 (15:51):
That's about it, Okay.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Then we go over to the Cardinals. No nothing, no
new news from the Cardinals. They've got all their starters
in place. Arvin Harrison's looked better, but we're gonna talk
on him.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Lash plays a lot of flash plays, flash plays.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
We'll talk more about him later in this show too.
Let's go back to the Broncos.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Got sure the Broncos traded Devon Vle As we mentioned before,
Peyton Sean Payton has been praising Pap Bryan, even Troy
Franklin this preseason. But I'm really not sure what to
make of that, since Sean Payton has this rare medical
condition where he's allergic to being honest, so he breaks
out in hives. I think, so, not sure what to
make of it.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Kansas City Chiefs Thor.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Is Jachecko has been running with the ones there, you know,
and not a huge surprize there. But the running back
situation with Kansas City, Brishard Smith has been flashing in
the past games up this summer. He is a little
bit buried on the depth chart right now, but the
past game utility is what we're wondering if he can
end up forcing his way onto the field and become

(16:56):
essentially the new Jerck McKinnon in that system.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
The other thing I.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
Want to mention and Jalen Royle's dealing with a knee
issue right now. That's a guy where if Hollywood promises
his time during the season where she Rice gets suspended
for a little bit three wide receiver sets, we think
that Jalen Royals could get on the field. So need
Jalen Royals to get healthy. But he's looked good when
he's been out there for the Rams.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Matthew Stafford back at practice and according to Sean McVay,
no restrictions this week, which is great news. If you
bought the dip on pookin Akua Devonte Adams, I think
that's looking pretty savvy right now. At least hopefully this
will not be a recurring back issue for Stafford and
our final team Thors the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, the Raiders.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
Jack Besh still running with the twos there. You know,
was wondering if he would force his way back in there.
But it looks like the starting lineup because this has
been the case now the entire training camp and even
going into the OTAs is Jacobi Meyers, Trey Tucker and
Deontay Thornton.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
When we come back to Fantasy Football Weekly, if you
love auctions, and we love auctions, let's talk about some
auction strategies. If you're trying to get league, let's talk about
that a little bit as well. So some of the
formats that don't always get enough love, we'll start talking
through some of your key draft day strategies when we
return Fantasy Football Weekly.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
We know we don't talk enough auction on this show,
but we love the auction format. We think it's the
most equitable way to distribute players. Scott Fish, Thorne Eistrom.
We've been doing We've been talking about auctions and advocating
for auctions for thirty years on this show, and you know,
but we still end up putting everything in terms of

(19:00):
what round of player is going in the average draft position,
and then auction people have to sort of do the
mental calculation themselves on how that works for their auction.
Let's talk about some of your favorite auction strategies. What
are you doing this time of year in your auctions.
Let's start with Scott.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yeah, This in part depends on what your league settings are,
because if you are a ten team league or fewer,
I am all studs and duns. You want the top
of the line player at every position. Because the waiver
wire is thicker you can get more players to replace
on the waiver wire. You want the top end talent,

(19:39):
and I'm absolutely fine going studs and duns. There a
lot of people do that in twelve team anyway. It's
a common strategy. I usually tend to be a little
more balanced in I try not to go much over
fifteen or twenty percent on the stud players. Sometimes I
just call it and I'd rather get, you know, two
mid round guys. But I think the biggest strategy when

(20:00):
I'm in an auction is you want to be in
the middle of whatever your tier is or whatever you
feel like the tier of that group of players is
like if you're in a tier of six wide receivers
that are similarly ranked by consensus, and that the people
will be but you know, the top player in that tier,
in the bottom player, the last player of that tier.
That's where the money gets spent. If you're in the middle,

(20:22):
you're probably going to get a discount. If it's a
super flex auction, get three quarterbacks, it's the cheapest time
you're going to get quarterbacks in the entire thing. You're
not going to be able to trade for him. I
think those are kind of my main strategies going into those.
You know, a couple of different kinds of leagues.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
All right, thor how about you when you're in an
auction in what do you try to do?

Speaker 6 (20:44):
I think that's well said. But twelve teams and above
in the league, and I usually play in deeper leagues,
you know, fourteen sixteen or whatever. I want to spread
my money out. And you know, because the inversive idea
of what Scott is talking about, you're gonna have a.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Less their free agent pool.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
You're gonna get to you know, the field the pool
is you're stretched deeper, and I want to take more shots.
I want to be the option to be able to
stream people, but I also want to take shots on
guys that I think could end up way out playing
the Obviously the money that I paid for them or whatever,
you tend to be able to get a decent deals,
especially in those bigger leagues, on guys like that. So

(21:22):
I let other people, you know, throw their money at
the stars and do that strategy in the in the
deeper leagues. Just like in regular drafts, if there is
trading of draft picks, my phone line is always open
to if someone wants to trade up, right, Like, I'm
always willing to take the extra draft equity in order
to move down. That's I think I got that from
Rix Spielman here locally, who is a huge fan of

(21:44):
always trading for the late round picks. But yeah, I
just want more bullets during during the draft and and
and as that goes for auction, it's it's spreading the
money a little bit more.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Yeah, Scott, I was just gonna I wanted to clarify
if I wasn't clear. I was saying studs and toudds
A lot of people do. And then when I get
when I get to twelve teams, I like to be
more balanced much like thor is manching. That's that's why
I prefer to be balanced. I have a couple other notes,
but I'm guessing you're gonna talk.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Oh, let me, let me. Let me fire a couple
of bullets and you can see what's left in the
chamber here. Okay, once I've once I've established, I'm good
to go with my starters at a position, so I
go get my tight end. I've got black Bauers, I've
got Trey McBride, or I've got TJ. Hockinson, whoever. Now
I'm thrown out tight ends. I want people spending money
at the positions I've already filled so that they have

(22:34):
less competition for me when I'm bringing up running backs
or wide receivers or quarterbacks because my tight end set.
So that's one of my favorite strategies is to throw
out the positions where I'm already deep.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
To go right along with that, I throw out like
I don't think I ever throw out a nomination until
the end of a player.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I want that you actually like, Yes, if.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
I'm thrown out players, especially early, it is it is
players I know are gonna draw money that I just
don't want.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
And then there's the cold room theory, which I think
is a fact in most leagues. The first couple of
eyes that get thrown out go cheap because the warm
has the room hasn't been warmed up yet, and a
lot of people aren't very comfortable with auctions. Maybe they
haven't done a lot of auctions, and I think those
first couple of guys that go out, upon reflection, end

(23:24):
up going for less, and they're almost always big name.
Somebody's always thrown out a big name. Many times it's
a big name player that don't want But regardless, I
think there's there's opportunity in that cold room. Have you
guys experienced that with the first couple of players to
get thrown out?

Speaker 6 (23:37):
I have, Yeah, Like in drafts where you're like, should
we redo the clock on the first guy? You know
that because he goes for so cheap, and it's something
you you got to keep your head on a swivel
in an auction draft.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
They're live organisms.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
I haven't experienced that, Okay, I've just often almost all
the auctions I've done are with people who routinely over
that could be it.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, it's a living organism. You have to head on
a swivel. Like Thorpe said, all right, I got one
more auction strategy that that's important for me. I've got
an auction value written down next to every single player.
In the heat of the auction, I don't want to
make panic emotional moves, you know, when I walk before
my draft, I want to be able to auction. I
want to be able to walk in and know, Jamior

(24:21):
Gibbs twenty six bucks, that's my cap. That's it, you know,
in the sober light of the moment before my draft, right,
I'm like, okay, twenty six bucks. I don't want to
get caught up in a bidding war. Next thing, I know,
I'm bidding thirty two on Jamior Gibbs.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
And it's definitely a great point because auction draft, especially
if you're less experienced in them, you can lose your
mind in the moment for one guy and get my
epic and all of a sudden you're bidding against another
guy and you're like, no, I'm going to get this guy.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
You end up overpaying by ten bucks.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Right, Like, So having those those those numbers next to
those guys heading into your draft can tether you to
reality when the bullets are flying.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
I used to do that in my early auction days,
as I would cap myself at fifteen percent, which ended
up turning into like a two hundred dollars budget thirty dollars.
If it hit thirty, I'm out. I read into problems
where other people realized that was my like thirty one,
and I've softened over the years. But yeah, having a

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max bit or a cap on a player or you know, position,
especially good idea.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
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Speaker 3 (26:09):
Scott, you've been playing in Guillotine League since your one,
when I very first started Guillotine leagues dot com. Talk
to me about some of the things that you like
to do.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
I'll keep it short. I have two things that I
always do. I've never won a Guillotine League, but I've
been Final four a few times, and I rarely go
out early. The two things that I routinely do and
have found success with is I don't spend a penny
in the first six weeks unless I absolutely have to.
If I get bounced on that so be it. But

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I think that's only happened once or twice. You generally
find yourself as one of the top three players with
money for almost the rest of the season at that point.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, you do that.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
The other one is I dig into the onesie positions.
I get myself a stud quarterback and tight end, I
call it a day and then just fill the rest
of my roster with running backs and wide receivers. That way,
I'm not bidding on quarterbacks and tight ends that get
dropped in the early weeks or whatever. I'm just sitting
on my good starters and hopefully they have late by weeks.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
So do you have one guillotine League tip four drafters?

Speaker 6 (27:07):
Yeah, I would say when you're ranking people, leverage the
first month of the season more than the rest of
the season your roster. If you do end up making
in the late October and beyond that, your roster is
going to look vastly different once you're able to start
spending money. But I totally agreed with what Fish at
and of not spending the first six weeks, And one

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way to inoculate yourself or to not have to go
and blow your free agent money is to be drafting
more guys that have an easier opening scheduler, guys where
circumstance opens up for him. Right Like, if you know
one of these guys a surprise starter or the Viking
situation charge you were mentioning, they're they're looking into the
trade market quite closely. If trade gets consummated there, then

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a guy steps into the starting lineup. Different stuff like that,
where you can get a guy for cheaper than maybe
his first five to six games should indicate those are
the guys I'm going to value a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
A lot of great advice for Guillotine League playing. You
can get a lot more of that kind of advice
with The Chop Podcast. Thor's a regular contributor to The
Chop Podcast. Brian Johnson, some of your favorite Fantasy Football
Weekly co hosts talking guillotine hardcore Guillotine Chop the Guillotine
League Podcast. We encourage you to check that out as
well when we come back to Fantasy Football Weekly. The

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toughest decisions we're making in every round here about those
when we return after.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
This, Welcome back to Fantasy Football Weekly.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
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with you. You can follow us on x. Scott Fish
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Some of it's even fantasy related. A lot of bourbon

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talk with Scott and I as well, which is always good.
In this segment We're going to highlight the one player
for each round that we agonize about taking. These aren't
the players that we're taking every time. These aren't the
players we're avoiding every time. These are the players that
cause us to stroke our collective beards. And we are

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a three bearded group right now. Three beard strokes right
happening right now, and it's round number one. Who is
your beard stroker in round one? Scott?

Speaker 5 (29:49):
So for me, it's actually just being at the back
end of round one and it's multiple players. It is
Nico Collins with Stroud the way he looked last year
and that offensive line being arable versus Brian Thomas Junior.
Does Travis Hunter really cut into what he was doing?
Can he be chasedon Higgins or does he you know,
take a bet? Do they fall off? Is it Saint

(30:11):
Brown with the Jamison Williams breakout?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Is it Neighbors with his toe issues in Russell Wilson.
I found myself grabbing Nico in that situation. But every
time I'm on that back corner, I'm like, God, dang,
at which one of these guys do I want?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Which is the right call there? I think Nico's almost
always the right call. That's just me.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
You know, I have him as my wide receiver three,
but I get the hesitancy.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yes, Scott fitsh. You and I are legitimate early adopters
on Nico, like three years ago on this show talking
about Nico Collins before he was on radar for anybody else,
thor who's the player you're agonizing over in round number one?

Speaker 6 (30:49):
I'm going with Justin Jefferson. You know, you have like
the fifth sixth pick in there. I think it's a
really tough one. Justin Jefferson has missed a lot of
practice most of you know of August with the hamstring strain.
It seemed like hes going to be back for Week one,
but you don't get a lot of rapport there on
field time with your second year quarterback who's coming off

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the season ending injury and JJ McCarthy there, and then
the first three games charge you were mentioning that the
issues right now with the Vikings receiving corps as a whole,
even on top of that and the second one. Initially
in the season, you would think that they're going to
pound targets to Jefferson just mercilessly. But then Jefferson coming
off that injury. It just introduces some doubt there, the

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lofty air that you have to pay to acquire him,
so that it's always a tough one for me.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Things that are bad for the offense hurt all the players,
and the Vikings not having a legitimate second wide receiver
could end up hurting Justin Jefferson a lot more than
it ends up helping him. I think the beard stroker
for me in round one it's Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, you know,
you know, the last six years he's either basically RB
one or he ends your season and you have to

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decide whether or not you're there for the risk. I
don't have any insight that listeners don't have and whether
Christian McCaffrey's going to stay healthy this season. But here's
what I do know. Every year you get older, the
less like you are to stay healthy. It's a really
tough call. I think a lot of it goes back
to something Scott alluded to earlier in the show. In
smaller leagues eight person leagues, ten person leagues, it's a

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lot easier to take risk early in the draft because
you can make up for it later in the draft.
In you're in twelve, fourteen, sixteen, or I've been in
a twenty team league for twenty years. That's a lot
of risk to put onto your team early in the season.
Let's go to round number two, Scott, give me the
player you are agonizing over the most in round two.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
So it's it's the Bowers McBride conundrum. It is the
go great at tight end or wait until late at
tight end scenario. When I get on the board in
the second round, I'm debating, do I want Bowers and
McBride when guys like Bucky Irvin, Chase Brown, maybe Puka,
maybe a Chan are all still available as skill players,

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and do I wait for guys like Warren and that later? Yeah,
that's that's my biggest scratcher. I've found myself waiting till
late generally. But your greatest scratcher, I love it, my
greatest beard scratcher. But that's my that's my debate in
round two is do you go great at tight end

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or do you wait until late?

Speaker 3 (33:27):
To me, the answer is almost always go great at
tight end? Okay, who is your beard scratcher in round
number two?

Speaker 6 (33:35):
For me, it's Jonathan Taylor. You know it's a guy
where earlier I didn't want him on my rosters, but
now you have the thing with Daniel Jones. It's confirmed,
and so it's like, well, maybe the offense won't be
a tragedy this coming season. And then last year Taylor
had what fourteen hundred some yards even though he missed
three games, So it's like, well, could it be a
better offense? And if it is, and Daniel Jones helping

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him out, YadA YadA. He's a guy that I go.
It's just back and forth, like there's two arguments going
on in my head about Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
So that's the toughest one for me.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
And Taylor has the advantage although he doesn't catch, which
factors into this a lot, but he has the advantage of
getting so many goal line carries every single year. And
Shane Stiken loves to run the ball at the stripe,
so there's a lot of safety built into that touchdown
productivity for Jonathan Taylor. For me, the guy I'm agonizing
over in the second round is Devon a Chan. He

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was a PPR wizard last year with almost eighty receptions,
six hundred yards, RB ten and PPR. But man, do
I feel like we dodged a bullet with getting seventeen
games out of him last season. He was getting goal
line work last year that I don't think he's going
to get this year because he was awful at the
stripe last year, not very productive, and there's so many

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negative variables that I need him to dodge. Bad offensive line,
his personal history of injury to his history of injury,
Ali Gordon, it looks like potentially the next the next
goal line back up for the Dolphins after Jalen Wright
failed four different times in the preseason game from earlier
a couple of weeks ago. So to me, Devon a

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Chan all the upside if we get a season like
last year, lots of catches, but so much downside too.
To me, he is a high risk, high reward option
in round two. Let's go to round number three, Scott
your beard stroker in round three.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Yeah, this is the spot where I'm debating, do I
need Hampton, Lamari and Hampton or Travon Henderson or do
I start the QB run And like you like to
be great at tight end, a lot of people like
to be get that great Daniels that Allen that Lamar
at quarterback. Start the QB run and they don't have
to draft a quarterback for the rest of the rest

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of the draft. They can just pack away at other positions.
That's my head scratcher in this round. That's my beard
scratcher in this round.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Well, the beard is technically on the head, so.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
You know, I might think that, Yeah, it forms the
way you do the rest of your draft.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
It does by making that decision there, I either get
one of the four big quarterbacks, the big you know,
the mobile quarterbacks, elite quarterbacks, or I sleft that position
all the way up. Absolutely, three is a price tag.
It is a price tag. I'm with you, all right,
thor what is your round three conundrum?

Speaker 6 (36:24):
You know the guys that've tossed out so far, it's
where you can make an argument for them on either
side of it. And I feel like Garrett Wilson's one
of the biggest guys like that in all fantasy football
this year. You can make an extremely compelling argument that
Garrett Wilson is underrated in fantasy drafts. He's the only
target there literally, and then justin fields. Of course, we

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have some issues with him as a thrower. He will
attack down the field though, and he likes Garrett Wilson
a lot. We know because they played together at Ohio
State twenty nineteen and twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
I'm just kidding, you know again, like you don't have
other options there, breeze hawk and catch the ball. Fields
doesn't love throwing to the running back Mason Taylor coming in.
We haven't seen fields in the past throwing to the
tight ends. But then on the other side of it,
with Wilson, you're in this crappy offense. Now you have
the dual threat quarterback who likes to run around, and
if the season starts to go wayward, you know, so

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you can make the argument on both sides.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
I always have a tough.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Time wait when I'm on the clock and Garret Wilson's
right up there at the top of the queue.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I want to talk about Marvin Harrison, my round three
Beard Stroker borderline disaster season last year. Seven different single
digit PPR performances last year. Those guys got you chopped
in guillotine leagues. They gave you l's el's in those

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games for Marvin Harrison, and it's hard to know entirely
where the blame lies. It's clearly some of it's on
Kyler Murray, who simply didn't throw the ball that well
in many cases to Marvin Harrison. And I don't think
Kyler Murray is suddenly going to get better a lot
better in year seven. I mean, I just think Kyler
Murray is who is at this point. Also a little
bit worrisome to me for Marvin Harrison is that this

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offense didn't add a single starter. Is the exact same
offense that we're rolling over, but the draft equity it
was extraordinarily high. He was an amazingly productive player at
Ohio State, and almost every receiver gets better in year
two of his pedigree. They almost all get better in
year two. You know you're not getting I think, a

(38:30):
real value on Marvin Harrison. He's actually going later this
year than he did last year, but still round three.
I'm just hoping he performs at round three. This is
a this is a tricky, tricky decision on Marvin Harrison.
Let's go over to round four, Scott, who is your round? Interesting?
By the way, we didn't pre program this. None of
us have chosen the same player yet. Let's see if

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it happens, and let's see if it happens here in
round four? Who is your round four beard stroker?

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Yeah, so I don't have a beard stroke in round
four because if he's still there, I'm taking Jade and
Daniels and I'm walking away because if I'm getting the
last of Daniels or Hurts, if I'm getting the last
of that tier, I will take it and walk away.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
But if the if that, if that's not the guy,
but that's who you're always taking, tell me the guy. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. That's that was the preface to.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
If those guys are gone and Davante Adams is on
the board, I remember Cooper Cup and Poka Nakua being
amazing together in that same offense.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
I trust in Sean McVay. Uh, you you will. You're
probably getting a little bit of a dip here.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
And DeVante Adams last year was better than Garrett Wilson
and nearly every game they played with.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Each other last year. Yeah, is he still that guy?

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Or is just the I hate wide receivers going to
a new situation, But Adams just proved me wrong last
year on that. So it's it's Adams. Does he still
have it in the tank? Is he gonna be good
in this situation. Will Matthew Stafford stay healthy. That's the
one that I think has top ten wide receiver upside
that could also fail spectacularly.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
allR Thor who is your round four beard Stroker?

Speaker 6 (40:05):
For me, it's Tetro and McMillan of Carolina and the
price point. The fantasy community has been pretty bullish on him,
and you could definitely see him having an enormous year,
you know, the assumption being that he's going to step
into a wide receiver one role and if Adam Thielen
is ultimately traded, they could be even more targets there
for him. But it's a guy who wins on ball skals.

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It's a guy who doesn't get a ton of separation.
He has amazing, amazing ball skills, don't get me wrong,
but the acclamation process working with Bryce Young.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
You have to pay it.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
You have to be very bullish to come out of
your draft with Tetroll McMillan. Based on the price point
right now, there is a path to it, for sure,
but it's obviously risky that the first year guy. So
that's one one that I go back and forth on.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
In that round, I'm going with Kansas City Wide receiver
Xavier Worthy as somebody that I agonize over in round four.
Loved the improvement that we got over the courts of
last year to the first half of the season. He
was super low volume. You know, they would throw one
pass at the line of scrimmage, they'd throw one pass
forty yards downfield, and if nothing good came out of that,

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Xavier Worthy gave you nothing. But then all the injuries
piled up and the Chiefs were forced to use Xavier
Worthy a lot more, and he seemed up to the
challenge and became a reliable go to receiver all the
way through the Super Bowl run for the Chiefs. But
then we forward to this year. It seems like this
is kind of a no brainer. But what happens when

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Hollywood Brown's nicked up right now? Jalen Royals is nicked
up right now. Rashie Rice is nicked up right now
and has suspension. But we're not that far off from
all of those guys potentially playing in Week one? What
happens when Patrick Mahomes drops back to pass and all
of his receivers are on field. This might be the
first time in years that Patrick Mahomes has got a

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surplus of wide receivers. Is Xavier Worthy still at that
point the go to receiver don't? And that makes it
part of the conundrum in the fourth round. Let's go
to the fifth round, Scott, who is your beard stroking
player in round number five?

Speaker 5 (42:10):
My only beard stroke here is do I take one
of these guys and just reach around Frank Buca and
call it a day, which might which might end up
beat his ADP. Anyway, I think my biggest scratcher here
is it's got to be Kamara or Harvey in the
last of that running back tier. For me, Kamara, it's
really Kamara? Is he He still gets a ton of receptions.

(42:33):
He's gonna have to almost be basically the main weapon
in that offense that might just be a terrible offense.
Every one of his metrics has gone down, His explosives
are gone. We're going to talk about this a little
bit later. But he's still consistently top five or ten
in targets and receptions and that's big in fantasy.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
It is big, and this he's kind of value priced
right here. In the fifth round, Thorpe, who is the
player that you're agonizing Wking round number five.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
RJ. Harvey.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
RJ Harvey, it's a big price tag on him, and
of course I have to put my hand up a
little bit on this one of getting his price tag
to the point it was. I mean, you guys know
how much I love r J. Harvey, but with that
price tag now where it is, and we're talking about
a re draft league here right like, I want to
remind people. And this was one of the reasons I
was so bullish. Was Alvin Kamar. The experience that Sean
Payton had with him. Alvin Kamara as a rookie did

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not start getting touching till the poort fifth game. And
it looks like it's gonna be the same thing here
with RJ. Harvey as a rookie. Will he end up
stealing that job from Dobbins. There's a lot up in
the air there, so I go both ways of it.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
You know, I'm with you on RJ. Harvey was my
guy as well. I'm gonna mention this as I've done
a couple of times in the show under Sean Payton.
Alvin Kamara on a Hall of Fame pace didn't get
more than seven carries until week six of his rookie year.
Sean Payton, A little can be slow to get his
rookies on the field, and you got to bake that
into your decision making. On our j Harvey, when we

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come back to our number two of Fantasy Football Weekly,
we'll go through a dynasty draft, identify the rookies we
love and don't and tell you which aid the veterans
are totally cooked or just medium.

Speaker 8 (44:13):
Well.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Welcome back our number two Fantasy Football Weekly. I am
Paul Charchy and my co hosts today are Scott Fish
and Thor and Eystrom and man are we going to
lean into Thor for this segment. Let's talk through rookie
dynasty drafts. Of course, dynasty drafts, you hold these players forever.
The rookie draft is such a big deal. These are
the guys that are going to change the future of

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your dynasty league team forever. Scott's gonna throw out the
top players being drafted in order, rookies being drafted in
order for give me a comment on the player, and
mostly to say is this the appropriate place for this
player to go? Is he going too high, too low?
Or just right? And Scott, I think we know who

(45:24):
the number one overall rookie is.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's the ADP right now has Ashton gent
number one. I can't imagine it's any different for Thor,
But if you want to take it, Thor, if is
there any change, it's it's genty.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Right, genty? Yes, that is correct? All right?

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Moving on, let's move on.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Number two is currently Omarion Hampton, who's going, you know,
second among rookies in regular drafts. In dynasty, that's where
he's being drafted. Is that the same for you, Thor?

Speaker 6 (45:54):
Yeah, it is, and both those guys even in red
draft leagues. I'm more bullish on than the ADPs. Like
I'm looking at my overall ranks, I have Hampton twenty
first over all and Fantasy nine spots ahead of his ADP.
But yeah, he is in number two in the rookie
draft Dynasy drafts with a bullet.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, inside runner, goal line runner correct Thor Omarion Hampton
for Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Absolute berserker.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
Yeah he's a tackle breaker and he does have home
run speed as well, but yeah, that body armor, he's
got the short yardage around the goal line.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
That's gonna be o Mari and Hampton time.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I think so too. Nagie Harris eye injury has really
meant that he hasn't been able to work out for
his new team, and Omari and Hampton hits the ground
running in week one as the starter. I think agreed.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
It is always weird to me that so many times
the running backs are at the top of this and
if you think logistically and dynasty league's the worst teams
are the ones drafting at the top, and they probably
should have longer, longer assets like wide receivers than short
term running backs. But number three coming in at ADP
is Travis Hunter. The dual threat now with Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Is that you're number interesting.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
He's my number four.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
I got him flipped with McMillan, who I assume is
number four on that list.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Correct.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
Yeah, And I've been bullish on Hunter. That's even a
little bit more bullish than I would go. People need
to keep in mind long term, we're talking dynasty here.
You obviously have a two way player here in an
unprecedented player. Lean Cohen says he's gonna play eighty percent
of the offensive snaps this year, and we love to
hear from a fantasy perspective, you wonder if going forward
they'll they'll try to even out the snaps more with defense,

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or what if they want to leverage the defensive snaps
a little bit more going forward and he gets a
little bit less on offense. There's some questions there. I'm
still bullish, Like I said, I have them four. But
Tetero McMillan, I think he has to be the first
rookie wide receiver who's taken and he's stepping right into
that that wide receiver one role. It would appear with
Carolina right away. So I'd have those two guys flipped.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Vote of confidence for Dave Canalis For me as well,
Bryce Young's development looks legit to me. Ted McMillan should
be very good. Who's going off the board at position
number four or Scott?

Speaker 5 (48:01):
That would be Travion Henderson, who's really, really, really flashed
flashed again this preseason for the New England Patriots at
the running back position.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Is that who you got through?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Well, now I'm fascinated to know where McMillan ends up
in this.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
No, no, no, no, I thought we went over three
and four are four McMillan.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
We're just moving on? Yeah, Okay, all right, Okay, So
five is Henderson. I was off on that.

Speaker 6 (48:24):
Toods Henderson is right, that's right where I have Henderson.
I think that that's fair five. And I'll be curious
to see. You know, we've talked a little bit about this.
Will New England's coaching staff with Trevion Henderson, Will they
go a little hog wild and start the usage and
just funneling all of it to him. Trevion Henderson had
issues staying healthy in college when he got the bell

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call workload. He was able to stay healthy last year
sixteen games, the national title run for Ohuse State, sharing
touches with Quinnjohn Jenkins. I'm curious about that, but I
think you have to have him fifth.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
All right, that's Travian Henderson and yet more on him
coming later in this show. Let's go to rookie Dynasty
pick number six, Scott, who's the public taking at position six?

Speaker 5 (49:08):
Yeah, we're gonna go on a little bit of a
tight end run and starting with the Colts new tight
end Tyler Warren is the is the first here at
number six.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Wow?

Speaker 6 (49:17):
Okay, so I and even though I'm bullish I have
Tyler Warren at eight, I'm not prioritizing the tight end
quite that early with some other guys that are on
the board, and we'll we'll talk about them in a second.
But I think there's crazy attractive running backs that are
are are still available there, and one receiver that I
have on as well. But I love Tyler Warren, like

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you know, reed draft leagues.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
This year.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
I have plenty of overtickets on Tyler Warren's yardage total
at the sports books as well in the prop market,
very very bullish on him. It seems like the market
is more bullish in dynasty drafts though than I am.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
All right, and the Daniel Jones news to me, very
good news for Tyler Warren. Let's go to Psition number
seven in rookie Dynasty draft, Scott Who's being taken here?

Speaker 5 (50:04):
Yeah, we're sticking a tight end with Colston Loveland of
the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
Yeah, and this one is a real surprise for me.
I would not have Colson Loveland that high. I have
Colson Loveland in mine thirteenth, you know, And there's an
issue there initially with Colson Lovelan what he is, it's
a big slot predominantly. He can play a little bit
of inline for you. But the Bears have Comment there, right,
and so you have to decide if you're the Bears,

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you going to take Comment off the field. You're gonna
take burden off the feel, You're going to take Loveland
off the field, and that Olamide Zachias is out there
right now as well, clogging up the sort of slot thing.
There's a lot of moving parts there, and with the
pass catching core there with Chicago, I'm a little bit
lower on Colson Loveland than the market is.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I'm with you on that for the reason you mentioned.
There's just a lot of mouse defeat in the Chicago
offense and I could see him being much more inconsistent
than Tyler Warren, who might be the best receiver on
the team right now for his team. All right, let's
go to position number eight in dynasty rookie drafts. Who
are the public taking at eight? Scott?

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Yeah, this, uh, this is where it starts to make
a little more sense maybe for you. Amika Egbuka comes
in at number Oh yeah, baby, I have.

Speaker 6 (51:13):
Ag Buka at seven and and and I think you
know it's it's it's prudent to be a little aggressive.
They're on Abuka based on I mean, we we know
guys haven't done this for years, the veterans and the
coaches when they're asked about rookies, typically you're gonna hear
nice things said about them. But when the guy is
a stud, there's a different tone in the voice. And

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listening to guys like Baker Mayfield talk about Mecca Buka
going back a month or two and and the drum
beat is only built there, you know, built up there,
and now you have the easy runway into a week
one spot and a big role in that offense. When
we initially were curious, like so you're gonna have to
start out the season on the bench right after the
pick was made because Tampa Bay's receiving core appeared to

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be so stacked. But but the sort of season opened
up for him, Egbuka, and I'm bullish on him long
term as well.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Love it. I think you could go. I go quite
a bit higher, honestly, if it were if it were
just up to me, let's go to position number nine.
Who's the public taking in dynasty rookie drafts of position nine?

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Scott, So this is where Caleb Johnson comes in. But
I do want to make a statement that This Rookie
ADP is for the month of August, so it's possible
it was done a couple of weeks ago, and weirdly
in Dynasty that shouldn't change the ranks too much. But
I feel like guys like Jacory Krofsky Merritt might be
higher on this list. Maybe even RJ. Harvey might be

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higher on this list. R J. Harvey coming in a
couple of picks from now. Caleb Johnson, how do you
feel about that? And where would you have slotted in?
Bill Krofsky Merritt? Would he have already been in this
top nine?

Speaker 4 (52:49):
No?

Speaker 6 (52:50):
I have Jacory KRASKI Merrit actually at eleven, so and
you know, and updated of course with the current news
and everything, but I think you would have been my
RB six, Jackory Krass you merit in Rookie Dynasty drafts
right now. As for Caleb Johnson, I have him right
at nine. I feel like the market has that one right,
you know. And there's this stuff we were talking about

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the depth chart a little bit earlier on hopefully Arthur Smith.
Can you know he'll do better buyas this year what
we'll have to end up seeing. But I am bullish
on Caleb Johnson. I really really like his game, and
I think he's a good fit for the Steelers as well,
So I think nine is right about right for him.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
I've got a good stat for you on Caleb Johnson
that I think makes me feel a little more confident.
Last year was the first year for Arthur Blank as
the offensive coordinator for the Steelers. From inside the five
yard line. The Steelers completed four passes. They ran the
ball twenty six times inside the five. That is a

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monster disparity. And Caleb Johnson is built perfectly for goal
line use, sure twenty one touchdowns to lead the Big
Ten in rushing touchdowns last year. Okay, let's go to
position number. I believe we're on position ten of our
dynasty rookie drafts.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Who's a next Scott Quinchawn Judkins running back for the
Cleveland Browns?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Who?

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Uh, you know, once he gets signed in there, it
sounds like he's probably I don't. It's still an up
in the air situation a little bit at this point,
but this is dynasty. We assume things are probably going
to get figured out at some point to some degree.
How do you feel about him long term? It's the
number ten on this list.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
I'm a little bit lower.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
I have Quinchehn Judkins fourteenth in mind, and it doesn't
have as much to do with with you know, the
legal stuff and the and the unsigned. You bake it
in a little bit for sure, But Quinjohn Judkins, he's
not going to give you anything on passing downs.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
You know.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
That's that's been my thing with him. And so he's
gonna get yanked off the field there. And he's not crazy,
crazy explosive. I do like his vision and feel quite
a bit. But you wonder, is this guy, like, even
even if things go well for him in his career,
is it just a better version of a guy like
Jordan Howard for instance.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Right, So for me, like it's always going to be
a mix in. I have him fourteen.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
You're in a bad offense and a bad organization, so
I had to put him fourteen.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
I think the Browns are an emerging organization and ten
and I you know, I feel like once they're officially
de shackled, which they really are from Deshaun Watson, I
trust Kevin Stefanski to get this right. He's been very
successful when he hasn't had Deshaun Watson, and I feel
like Quinshawn Judkins is the ultimate buy low opportunity right now.

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You're paying pennies on the dollar for him where he
would have gone otherwise. And he you know, they liked
him enough to take him in the second round. This
is a really nice opportunity. So I don't know, I
feel like these are one of these moments where you
look back and go, man, I wish I would have,
you know, ignored the moment and looked more big picture.
Let's go to number eleven. Who's the public taking in

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dynasy rookie drafts to pick eleven? Scott?

Speaker 5 (55:52):
This is uh, this is Sean Payton's new new love affair,
his new toy, the running back r J Harvey over
the over out there.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
And.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
I'm way higher on our J Harvey, you know, in
talking from a dynasty perspective, I have them number six
on my list, and him against Trevion Henderson for me
is very very close.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
So I mean there was even a shot he could
have been fifth.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
The concerns that you know, I'm using bunny quotes, concerns
that I was talking about, you know, with ur Ja
Harvey's workload, that's all talking about early season twenty twenty five, right,
But when we're making a Dynasty pick, you have to
you have to look a little bit more, you know,
onto the horizon there, and that's where it gets really
fun for our j Harvey game. Very similar to Alvin Kamara,

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and we all know what happened there with Alvin Kamara
with the Saints. With Sean Payton, he's gonna be used plenty.
He's gonna have to overcome Dobbins, and then the deference
to the veteran that we've seen from Sean Payton in
the past. But with your Dynasty pick, that doesn't matter
as much. I think the public's kind of sleeping on him.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Well. At one point, we had hoped to get through
two rounds of our Dynasty Rookie analysis. Not happening. We're
going to go through one round, twelve picks, so one
complete first round of Dynasty rookie rankings. Who's going out
the board on average as the last player in the
first round, Scott.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
That is the first round wide receiver selection of the
Green Bay Packers. Matthew Golden.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
I have Matthew Golden tenth.

Speaker 6 (57:18):
I think there is a shot that Matthew Golden is
able to essentially become the wide receiver one there pretty quickly.
You don't have a lot of competition for that. They're
guys that Matthew Golden can shove aside for that. So
I and of course the Packers like him. That's a
team that never took wide receivers early. They end up
taking Matthew Golden the first round this year. So I'm
a little bit higher I having tenth.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Number ten Matthew Golden. Packers need to develop a go
to wide receiver. They put first round equity into Matthew Golden.
Let's hope that he can make good on the price
that they paid. When we come back, are these aging
veterans completely cooked or merely medium? Well find out when

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Guillotine Leagues dot com. Scott and Thorpe. This is a
segment we call cooked or medium Well. We did this
last year ton of fun. We're gonna identify older players

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and you tell me whether or not you believe they
are completely cooked or merely medium. Well. We're gonna get
one more good season out of these players. And we
begin with Joe Mixon, age twenty nine. Thor Let's start
with you on Joe Mixon. Is he cooked or is
he medium?

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Well, Joe Mixon is cooked, And I'll go further.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
I will not have Joe Mixon on a fantasy roster
this year, and I don't know if I will ever
own Joe Mixon again. That we have some scary news
there about his from a fantasy perspective, about his health situation.
Right now, they just keep saying he's out in definitely.
There hasn't been a ton of like very specific sports here.
You're starting to wonder does he have foot fractures there?
And is it is it gonna be like a long

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time with him out. It's crazy that Nick Chubb might
end up being less cooked than Joe Mixon. That might
be the reality that we're living in right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Nick Chubb just twenty six years old. He's actually kind
of low mileage because of the year that he lost
and then didn't get a lot of work last year. Scott,
is Joe Mixon cooked or is he medium? Well?

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Yeah, so Jeff Mueller, who's who's a pet on on Twitter?
In the fantasy Twitter space And say what you want
about fantasy Twitter docs. Sometimes they're more credible than others.
I've I've never seen or heard anything bad about Jeff
uh seen him out there for quite a long time.
He had heard some stuff about Joe Mixon's foot that

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he's like, he's completely off my draft boards, completely off them. Yeah,
there's something very serious there. And even if there wasn't,
even if it was like he'll be back in a
few weeks, that line is terrible. Yeah, Yeah, that line
is absolutely terrible, even if he's not completely cooked. How
I don't know that I want to really buy into him,
but I think I haven't doubt as cooked.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Good call the Houston offensive line ranked thirtieth in ESPN's
run block win rate last year, and then they mefranchised
quarterback and CJ. Stroud Man, I'd just be piling lineman
in front of this kid to you know, extend his career.
Just I don't like how Houston has run their offseason,
to be honest.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
It feels like one of those like when you're you're
out of energy, and like he was looking bad for
the Bengals and you're just like, I got one more immedia,
I pushed that one more out. Now's now, it's now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
He's done. Over the final six games of last year,
Joe Mixon drooped down to twenty ninth in rushing yards
among starters, thirty first in yards per carry twenty fifth,
and avoided tackle rate. The end was starting last year
and then adding this injury. Joe Mixon is cooked next
Alvin Kamara, aged thirty. We've already talked about him a

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little bit in this show. Or is he completely cooked
or is he merely medium well?

Speaker 6 (01:01:58):
This is probably the toughest one for me. I did
settle on medium well, but I don't think he's got
long before he's cooked, and I think he might end
up looking cook this year because of the situation he's
on with the Saints where he's gonna have to be
John Snow In that scene in Game of Throw, the
whole defense is king on Alvin Kamariz they're not afraid
of Tyler Shuck and all those other guys out there.

(01:02:19):
So I would love for Alvin Kamar to be traded
to a contender. I'm hoping that we get that closer
to the trade deadline. Tough situation there. I think he
can still play. He's still a very skilled guy, so
I'm gonna say medium.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Well, Scott, yeah, the same eight hold on. Has any
show had a bigger delta in quality of show until
the final season than Game of Thrones.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
The final final season yep, I don't know season was
good either, but the Parks and rec final season was
not weird.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I don't know. There's a bunch of them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Season, yeah, like because individual episodes.

Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
You have the final episode and then we've had some
bad ones Seinfeld, you know, be or the yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
But yeah, yeah, I think that might be the ace.
All right, Back to Alvin.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Kamara anyway, Dexter Resurrection is so good everybody should be watching. Okay,
it's ratings on IMDb are on pace to be the
greatest single season of television ever.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Really, cow, I have it currently right up there.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
If they can stick the landing, they're right up there
with the Trinity season of Dexter.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
It's so good. Wow, we'll see if they can stick
the landing. Okay, all right, Well, let's hope. So that's
always that seems to be the tricky part. Alvin Kamara Scott,
is he completely cooked or is he medium?

Speaker 8 (01:03:37):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
I put medium well, and it might just as as
thora alluded to just out in team necessity, that offense
might have to run through him. His his elusiveness and
explosives are gone. He's not making the play, he's not
dodging defenders, he's not breaking tackles, he's not getting those
huge plays anymore. But he gets top five to ten
catches and targets every year in PPR Medium. Well, maybe

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in standard he's cooked. I could say in standard he
might be cooked, but it might be one last year here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Yep, I got medium well, you know, really last year
downright gallant for Alvin Kamara in the face of much
of the same problems he had he's looking at this year.
But even worse without any starting wide receivers, and every
team just knew if you took Alvin Kamara out of
the game that the Saints were going to lose. Yet
he's still posted his highest yards per carrying three years.
He had an eighteen percent broken tackle rate last year,

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which isn't great, but it's also identical to Saquon Barkley
and James Cook, who were fantastic fantasy producers. He actually
posted his highest PFF grade in four seasons last year,
and they added a first round left tackle in Kelvin Banks.
So I'm actually kind of optimistic that Alvin Khmara's got
another good year left in him. And like you two,

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I'm choosing medium. Well. Let's go to James Connor, aged thirty.
Is he completely cooked or is he medium well? Four?

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
James Connor is medium well. I love James Connor.

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
James Connor overcame cancer to have an NFL career, and
now no one would have assumed this when he was
coming out of pit. The last two seasons were the
first two seasons of James Connor's career where he went
over a thousand yards rushing, which is just wild, right,
Like I mean, those are like his his six and
seventh years in the league. I think this guy can
still play and his game. The physicality and the muscle

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that the hammer stuff, the depreciation of the athleticism, I
don't think's going to hurt quite as much, for instance,
as a guy like Kamara. I think he's facing probably
a steeper cliff when that comes for him. But I'm
gonna say medium well with Connor.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
All right, Scott, Are you also medium well on James Connor?

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
Yeah, also medium well, And in part it's because when
he is healthy, he gets such a high percentage. He
gets everything, and he gets the targets, he gets the touch,
the goal line work, he gets everything in that role,
and he doesn't have much for competition. They didn't bring
any rookies in or anything. You can also argue that
that offense kind of found a little bit of stride

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at the end of the year, and if that continues
and McBride breaks out more, Harrison improves, they're going to
keep the defense's offense and it's going to be an
improved offense that rises at the tide of all the boats.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Agree with all of that. Medium well on James Connor,
age thirty. Let me give you a stat on this.
He finished third best in avoided tackle rate last year.
And if you tighten up the radius on that to
runners who had at least one hundred and sixty carries,
number one an avoided tackle rate, which is you know,

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age thirty James Connor. I kept thinking that, you know,
like the end is coming one of these years, but
it just there were no signs of it last season.
All right, let's go to a trickier one, and I
know this will be hotly debated. Hyreek Hill age thirty one.
Is he completely cooked or is he just medium well?

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
Or I'm gonna say that he is cooked as a
star wide receiver one last year worst season of his career,
finished with lesson I thought, and yards yards per reception.
It really stands out to you when when you look
at that the depreciation of that last year eleven point
eight was the second worst of any season of his career. Wait,

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when he's had full time duties out there, I don't
know that he's the wide receiver one on his own
team anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
So I'm gonna say, as far as that goes, he
has cooked.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
All right, Scott tyreek Hill age thirty one, cooked or
medium well.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
A lot of a lot of similar to thor on
his you know, yards per reception and his explosives drying up.
I wonder if part of that is because Tua was
second in checkdown passes. He became a checkdown king last
year last year. But also that hasn't changed. Two is
still there. It's not like it's not like that's going

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to change for Tyreek Hill this year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
I have miscooked, all right. I also had. I thought
this would be a little more hotly debated. And if
you do want to hear the full debate on Tyreek Hill,
check out Thursday's Chop Pod cast. Matthew Friedman and I
in a stirring a great disagree moment on both sides
of the Tyreek Hill argument. I was on the cooked side.

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Let's address the two excuse right now for lack of
productivity from last year. Because to A played twelve games,
we act like Toss missed twelve games. No, he played
twelve games. In those twelve Tyreek Hill had two games
as a top ten wide receiver last year and five
finishes as wide receiver thirty or worse. No bueno on

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tyre Tyreek Hill out so much.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
Devin Han average like twenty one fantasy points the game
with there was some.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Of that, There was some of that. You know, we
might none of us drapped in Jalen Watt. We're not
even talking about Jalen Wattle that much. This might be
a baton passing season to Jalen Waddle. Maybe we should
be targeting him a little bit more. All Right, We've
got another aging veteran player, Davante Adams, aged two. We've
already alluded to him in this show once before. Thor

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is he completely cooked or is he medium? Well?

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
I'm gonna say that he's medium well, and he's looked
very good in camp. And this is a guy who
it hit amazing ball skills and body adjustments and stuff
like that. His game it's not on the razor's edge
of some of these guys. The guys that are led
with their athleticism, those are Tyreek Hill. Those are the
guys that I'm afraid that the cliff is coming for them.

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DeVante Adams' game has never been predicated on that. I
think he's gonna age more gracefully than some of these
other guys were talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Not cooked.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
I love this. I'm just gonna jump in charge. DeVante Adams.
I have medium well. For stuff I mentioned earlier. He
was better than Garrett Wilson when they played together. A
bunch a lot of these players. You saw some drop
off last year. I didn't see drop off with Adam
last year. And I put just what Thor was saying.
I put Adams, who wins mostly nowadays on incredible route

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running that's still there. He doesn't need the speed for that,
he doesn't need the athleticism. He's got the route running
that's going to keep him. You keep him in good
graces with Sean McVay and fantasy and fantasy players.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Adams has always been a player that can play anywhere
on the field the X y Z. I believe that
he's gonna walk into the Cooper Cup role. I think
they're gonna run from the slot a lot. They know
how to design plays to to that position, and I
think he's gonna thrive there too. We all agree DeVante
Adams medium well for this year. All right, let's ratchet

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up the calendar quite a bit and go to Travis
Kelsey age thirty five. The drop off was obvious last year,
but that doesn't mean it's gonna happen this year. Thor
is he completely cooked or is he medium? Well?

Speaker 6 (01:10:46):
Are we talking about as a podcast hoster at tight
end in the nflcast? Yeah, that's where he is ascending,
But he is totally cooked. As far as an NFL player.
I don't like him for Fantasy this year, way lower
on him than than his ADP. We we have seen
him go down now for three straight years, you know,
twenty twenty two he at thirteen hundred thirty eight receiving yards,

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nine hundred and eighty four and twenty twenty three last
year down to eight twenty three. It's gonna be going
down again. Travis Kelcey is cooked.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
All right, Scott Travis kelce h thirty five cooked or medium? Well?

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
I think he may be cooked, but he's going off.
The board is tight end seven generally in the eighth
or so. And he went the tenth of two of
my drafts this week. Yeah, at that price, I'm starting
to wonder is this a mahomes alah Brady and Gronk
and his incentives. There's more competition for targets, but maybe

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that just opens Kelsey up down, you know, in the
in the in the seams a little bit more does
Mahomes give Kelsey his one final, last big hurrah year
before he calls it a day. I honestly like, if
he's going eighth, nine, tenth, I'm a little bit more in.
I do think he's pretty cooked. But if that's the

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price tag, I'm willing to take it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
All right, So we've got a cook, we've got a
medium we haven't had. I think I basically put a
bit well, he's not medium. Well all right, you know,
the eye test says he slowed down last year, but
also here's some numbers behind it. Per next Gen stats,
Kelsey's yards per catch dropped to just three point seven,

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down from five point two. That is a massive drop.
His separation dropped from three point seven yards to three
point two yards, and he fell from fifth to thirteenth
in end zone target percentage, which helps explain why he
only scored three times last year. Those are all concerning
trends for me.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
On Travis Kelcey, I will say there's been notes that
that the last two years he wasn't in the best
shape coming into camp, and he's in better shape than
the last two years.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
I know that's a common camp thing, but you'd think
you'd think dating Taylor Swift would keep you in remarkable
cardio shape.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
I think I think he knows this is the last year,
and that's why he's like, I'm getting in Well, Jesus Thor.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Or Jesus charge Adam feeling is age thirty five? Does
he have one more year left in him? Is he cooked?
Or is he merely medium? Well? Thor?

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
For for fantasy purposes, he's cooked. But for as far.

Speaker 6 (01:13:21):
As a usable on field guy, you can be a
wide receiver three still, you know, runs good routes and
he has good you know, it's going back to the
Devonte Adams saying obviously not not saying players and Feeling's older.
Feeling what is he two years older than than the
next oldest receiver that's still active in the NFL? So good,
good for him for hanging on. But yeah, that's what
he is now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
All right, Scott Adam feelen cooked or medium?

Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
Well, boy, this one's actually tough for me because is
he a panther or is he a Viking? If his
end of the season season told us anything, he was
still a you know, a wide receiver that can do
things fantasy wise. He had several good games games. My
concern is those games the last two years. Last year
it took seven point seven targets per game. The year

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before it took over eight targets per game. Will he
see that in either of the two offenses outside of
potentially Minnesota for the first three games, I'm gonna go
with cooked. But if you say medium well or well,
I'm absolutely fine with it because he shows he's still.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
I'm gonna say medium well week thirteen forward, so that's,
you know whatever, six games, Week thirteen forward. Feeling Pro
Football focuses wide receiver eleven and in PPR points. Last year,
from Week thirteen forward he was wide receiver twenty. He
made a couple of astounding circus catches that no receiver
should make in the second half of last year. Bryce

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Young is still as sending the drafting of Teed McMillan
could easily be a positive for Theeling, and that, you know,
because Thealen was kind of like the go to receiver.
I like Theland Moore as the second receiver. Still optimistic.
I loved what I saw from a skill set standpoint
last season on Adam Felin. I'm not ready to suggest
that he has done I just think he needs that
eight targets a game to do it well. That would help.

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We would take a targets a game from any of
our Fantasy Wide receivers, including Adam Feeling. When we come back,
final segment, three Tough Questions, and we release our Sleepers
of the Week. Find out key questions around your super
flex leagues Jacory Krossky Merritt, and Trey Veon Henderson. When

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Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
THJR promo code Thor. All right, this is a segment
we like to call three Tough Questions.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
We begin with question number one.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
In a super flex league, give me the two lowest
ADP quarterbacks who you'd be willing to roll with into
the season thor we start with you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
For me, that and one of them aren't going to
surprise anyone.

Speaker 6 (01:16:59):
But for me, the two guys are JJ McCarthy and
Trevor Lawrence JJ McCarthy ADP of one hundred and thirty.
He's ninetieth on my board, and then Trevor Lawrence ADP
of one fifty three. I have them one hundred and seventeenth,
so I'm way higher on those guys. If I miss
out on the parade of quarterbacks early, those are the
two guys that I'm targeting.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
All right. That was Trevor Lawrence and mister J. J.
McCarthy JJ McCarthy. There you go, all right, I like it, Scott,
Who are the two lowest ADP quarterbacks who you'd be
willing to roll into a Super Flex season with?

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
Yeah, we are in the same rage once I get
once I get to the Drake May JJ McCarthy, Herbert
loves Stroud Lawrence area, I want two of those, and
I found myself taking JJ McCarthy and I actually have
been going with Drake May for the you know, potential
rushing up side the McDaniels offense. You know they brought

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in more weapons. They brought in stuff Diggs, Travion Henderson
can catch passes. I still think he'll Leana and Hunter Henry.
I think that offense is going to be a little
better this year, and May is going to improve in
year two. And then you've got that rushing up side.
I know his metrics aren't from last year, aren't really sustainable,
but I want him to be that potential rushing quarterback

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for me, and then I want JJ is that slightly
safer in what I think could be a high powered offense,
especially by the end of the season. So when I
devised this question, and we don't we don't talk enough
superflex leagues, even though we love super flex and we
think superflex is the way to play.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
So I wanted to get in a question on super flex.
I thought myself, Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
My son who's twelve, him and his friends have never
played in the one quarterback league.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
That's raising right right there. Yeah, at a boy love it.
I thought to myself, there's no way we're going to
land on the same guys. This is going to be
too hard of a question because we won't land on
the same players. Now I've got Drake May and my
real life rankings way up at quarterback eleven. I loved
dra May, so you know, but this question was formulated
at ADP. Who's the last two quarterbacks you want to take?

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Drake May JJ McCarthy to me, I'm ready to go
to war with those young second year slingers right there
because they both have mobility. I'm getting mobility upside if
like five hundred rushing yards, five rushing touchdowns, and I
don't have to pay the price that comes with Josh
Allen and Lamar Jackson and Jayden Daniels and Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Granted they don't have the same level of rushing upside,
but I'm getting some of that same safety and ceiling
that those rushing numbers get out of Drake May and
JJ McCarthy. I think Drake May is sitting on a really,
really nice second year. His play last year downright gallant.
Behind the world the league's worst offensive line and worst
set of receivers. There's going to be some nice upside

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in Drake May. Let's go to our next question.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Tough Question number two.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Washington running back Jacori Krossky merit is the biggest mover
in pre season ADP over the last two weeks forty
four spots. He's gone up to be more and it's
gonna be more now, right, this is you know, this
is the trade on Friday. Moving Brian Robinson out has
really cemented an opportunity for Jacorey Krofsky Merrit Will Bill

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end the season as a running back one, running back two,
flex or bench level player. For this one, we begin
with Scott Fish.

Speaker 5 (01:20:32):
Yeah, I'll start off with I think it's running back two,
just just to answer your question, because sometimes I forget
to do that. The coaching staff has big plans for Eckler.
They've been talking about that a lot, and it might
be Eckler Swansong.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
He's still the pass catching back.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
They did trade Robinson, I think, yeah, I'm just I'm
just gonna lean on RB two because if you are
a if you're a starting running backer, even in between
the twenties running back on that Washington offense, you're gonna
get enough volume and there's enough question marks with a
lot of the guys in that sixteen through twenty four range.

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Bill can easily fall within that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
All Right, Thorpe Washington running back to Cory Krofsky, Merritt
the biggest mover in preseason drafts. Will he end the
season as an RB one, RB two flex or bench
level player?

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
I'm also going RB two.

Speaker 6 (01:21:25):
Before the Brian Robinson trade, I had Jacory Krofsky Merritt
RB thirty. I now have him RB twenty three. So
by definition, I think he's an RB two. And yeah,
that ADP is about the ADP stunks. That thing's going
to the moon.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
This morning I had RB two as my answer, and
then I thought to myself, I'm gonna look up everything
I know. And Chris Rodriguez went back, looked at college,
looked back, went to his games last year, including game
where he got a bunch of carries. Week thirteen, Chris
Rodrigez is gonna be a problem. He is a three
year veteran. He knows this system intimately. He's shifty, he's

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got wiggle, he's got good vision, not a lot of burst,
not a ton of speed in his two year career,
Chris Rodriguez and granted small sample size, limited number of
carries four point eight and four point nine yards per
carry for Chris Rodriguez. This kid's and he's built. He
could he could be a goal line guy. Potentially. I

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don't know that he's one hundred percent that, but maybe
I think this thing is going to take a while
to shake out. You know, we get very, very excited
about rookies all the time every year. We love the
new faces. Coaches love safety, they love guys who know
the game plan, they know guys, they like guys that
can pick up a pass rush. This is Chris Rodriguez
is going to be in the mix here. I think

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more than people want to believe, and for longer than
people might want to believe, And I believe the correct
answer for Jacorey Krosky merit across spread across the entire
season is going to be flexlake. It doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
It doesn't take as as much as you think to
get into that top twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Yeah, that is a fair point. That is a fair point.
Austin Eckler. I mean, this is all but cemented in
my Eckler's role doesn't change a lot, but it might
expand by ten percent. That remains to me one of
the most undervalued players in fantasy football right now. Okay,
let's go to our final question.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Tough question number three.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
The rookie that is impressed more than any other is
New England running back Traveon Henderson. Will Henderson and the
season as an RB one in RB two flex or
bench level player. For this one, we go back to thor.

Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
I'm gonna say RB two with Krasky Merita would have
been low end RB two. With Henderson, he's right on
the cut line for me between RB two and RB one,
so a high end RB two, but that's still where
I'm at with him. I can't slide him into the
top twelve of the running backs, even being bullish on him.
But nevertheless I am very bollish on him. So a
high end RB two with upside to attention become an.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
RB one, all right, Scott Traveon Henderson. Will he finish
the season as an RB one, RB two flex or
bench level player?

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:24:09):
I also have him as RB two in this I don't.
I think he's going to get the better part of
that split. Josh McDaniels keeps raving about him. He'll get
the pass cat, he can do it all, but I
don't have him quite reaching that top twelve. A lot
of Thorists points are accurate, so I'm gonna leave it
at that RB two higher RB two than I had
Jickoy Krassky merit though too.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
We talked a little bit about this last week, and
I want to hit on it again. Your offensive coordinator
for the Patriots is once again Josh McDaniel. In eighteen
years as an offensive coordinator or head coach, he has
had a split backfield in seventeen of the eighteen. The

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only one he didn't was his first year when he
inherited Stephen Jackson, a borderline Hall of Fame level player
at running back. That tells me that in the fact
that Rimandre Stevenson he labored last year. I know he
underwhelmed from a fantasy perspective, but he was running behind
the worst offensive line in football, and he played injured
all season long, no help from the passing game with

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those terrible wide receivers. Stevenson's going to be back in
the mix more than people want to believe in, including
probably at the stripe. So that caps the upside for Henderson.
He still looks like an amazing talent, and the things
are seeing in preseason translate to the regular season. He
will be an RB two producer this year. All right,

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let's go to our sleepers for the week. Thor you
get to go first. Who is your sleeper this week?

Speaker 6 (01:25:41):
I'm going with Jalen Colcher, the Carolina Panthers wide receiver,
and we'll feel even better about it if and when
Adam Thielen gets traded out of town. Jalen Coker needs
to be starting. Jalen Colker is one of the best
UDFA receivers we've had the last several years in the NFL,
and he should not have gone undrafted. I had him
as a fourth rounder on iyeboard UH six one and

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a half two eight eighty fifth percentile athlete and very
very good ball skills.

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
On Jalen Coker. This is the guy.

Speaker 6 (01:26:08):
And I said this in my scouting report when he
was coming out of Holy Cross that his upside was
a possession wide receiver two in the NFL. You you
have now gotten to see some of those flashes from
Jalen Coker. But Jalen Coker could be a big time
Fantasy contributor this year at a discounted price point.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Carolina wide receiver, Jalen Coker. All right, Scott, who is
your sleeper this week?

Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
I'm going with the Miami running back Alie Gordon former
DOAK Walker Award winner in twenty twenty three six one
two twenty six eighty inch wingspan. I think that he
could be the moster to Devin h Chan. I think
the Jalen Wright is more of a backup to ah
n Uh. This could be the moster role for him.
And he's looked like their best running back. And I

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know a Chan's been been missing time, he's been injured,
but Gordon has looked much better than right this preseason.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
I'm torn on Oli Gordon. When I watched his college
stuff and throw your way better this than I am,
I was like, man, he looks okay. I don't see
special traits. I was looking. You know, I'm always leave
for special traits that will make you stand out at
the NFL level. With Ali Gordon, I didn't see a ton.
Now he's been powering through slappies and you know in
third string defenses in this preseason he's looked good. Am

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I seeing it wrong on Ali Gordon.

Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
I think what we found out last year is he's
not a singular superstar talent. You know, of course that's
going to raise the tide of everyone around him. The
situation got bad at Oklahoma State and then his game
went down, But he's a guy who's certainly going to
get what is blocked for him. He's also a reliable receiver,
and he's sort of what the doctor ordered for Miami
needing short yardage type efficiency type guys. And I think

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he is a better fit. You know, you just think
about a platoon with Au Chain than Jalen Right. Jalen
Wright's game is He's not as good of a version
of Au Chain, but they have similar skill sets, right, So,
I think Ali Gordon has positioned himself to potentially siphon
off some goal line work here in his first season.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
And yeah, I'm sorry of tentatively bullish on him.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
And Scott adroitly reminding us raheem mostered eighteen touchdowns two
years ago in the Miami offense. That could be Ali Gordon. Yeah,
I've talked about him any times. So I'm not going
to spend a lot of time on favorite sleeper of
the year, Minnesota Viking running back Jordan Mason. The rest
of the world's caught up to this story. It's going
to be more of a fifty to fifty time share.
He's going to get the goal line work. I believe
Jordan Mason is going to be sitting on double digit

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touchdowns this season and perhaps twelve fourteen touchdowns in the
cards for him, and he might just be better than
Aaron Jones at this respective stage of their careers. Thank
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