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June 13, 2023 • 13 mins

It looks like Antonio Gibson will never realize the upside his rookie year suggested. But will new offensive coordinator Eric Bienemy utilize him in a whole new way?

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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at Paul Charchion on Twitter. Uh, we're gonna dive into
Antonio Gibson coming off a down season, is eightyp's down.
Everybody sour on him. But we've got an angle.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
A great angle.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
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Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, he was the RB twenty eight in average points
per game and just season long totals last season. Currently
going off the board, it's RB thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, so down people are expecting a worst season this year,
and undoubtedly part of it has to do with the
run game that just didn't come together at all last
season for Antonio Gibson.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I think why people thought he was going to be
a good runner kind of coming out of college and
seeing him after that first year he did a ninety
ninth percentile speed score at coming out of college, he
have ran a four to three nine forty at two
hundred and eight pounds, which is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
That is, to carry two and twenty eight pounds to
running four to three nine is sick.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, and that's why people liked him because he was
a receiver coming out of college, and they saw this
big frame, they saw this speed. It was every kind
of checked, all those those check mark boxes that you
want checked. Yeah, And the problem was is he's not
a great runner. That's there's the now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
So let me give you some stats to back that up.
Antonio Gibson was Pro Football Focuses forty eighth ranked runner.
You'll note there's thirty two NFL teams, so that's not good.
He was running back ninety nine in yards after contact.
That's you can't do that as a running back in
the league. You wouldn't have to be able to get
out of contact. Next Gen Stats ranked, Antonio Gibson is

(03:44):
the seventh worst rushing over expectation running back. In fact,
he was under expectation negative point one five yards and
everybody else. The other six players that were worse than him,
every one of them free agents, are backups. He was
running back fifty five in elusiveness, something he had been
better at earlier in his career. Tonio Gibson's it has

(04:07):
not come together as a runner. But we've got an angle.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
First, is he's a great receiving back. And Eric b
Enemy obviously the offense coordinator coming over from the Chiefs,
I think is going to kind of use him in
a way that we haven't seen him be used yet
in his career. So, first off, last season, he was
number twelve in targets, fifty eight among running backs yep,
number thirteen in receptions he had forty six, and he

(04:33):
was also number thirteenth in receiving yards and number nine
in yards per route run.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
All those numbers between nine and his ranking was between
nine and thirteen among running backs and these receiving stats,
it doesn't sound great, but also keep in mind he
was not even on the field all that much, right,
I mean, Brian Robinson was a lot of first and
second down. Gibson was like second and third down. So
you know, there's I think there's an opportunity for him
to be on the field more potentially this year.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, And I think Ron Rivera had a quote a
couple of weeks ago. He said, quote, I'd like to
see Antonio get a few more tries where you're looking
for production from him and looking to see that he
does fit into the scheme of things as far as
what Eric b Enemy wants to do with the offense.
End quote and he was not asked about Gibson when
he gave his quote. He was actually asked about Chris Rodriguez. Okay,
who That's what the reporter asked him about, and he

(05:22):
went out of his.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Way diverted the conversation to think.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
About Gibson, which is just something that fantasy managers love
to do because they'll pull any quote they can get
out in May and turn it into a big thing.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
So the hope here is that Eric Benemy is going
to convert Gibson to a true pass catching running back
and use him prodigiously that way. It's like a James
White and it could go down that direction, or as
a more recent example in Washington, Jad McKissick, you know,
we're were two or three years removed from him having

(05:52):
a big receiving season, and maybe Antonio Gibson is a
pure pass catcher, can end up being a guy that
gives you like three carries for twelve yards, but four
receptions a game for forty yards. And now I've cobbled
my way to like, you know, nine ten, you know,
fantasy points.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, he's certainly only the pass catcher on this team.
Speaking of j. D McKissick, Jamie Kisson had forty targets
last season and Gibson had fifty eight, so it was
about about fifty to fifty. But Jady McKissick is gone now, Yeah,
so all that stuff has gone. He's free agent. Ryan Robinson.
He's not a bass catcher, He's just not.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
We know this.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Chris Rodriguez had five receptions season in college, so he's
also not a pass catch, right, and then Jonathan Williams
also not a pass catcher. And m if we're going
to make the comparison between McKinnon and Gibson, McKinnon ranked
eighth in targets among running backs last season and Washington
as a team ranked ninth in target running back targets
last season.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, so we've seen a pre election, or at least
for the former offense. Right, Eric Bannemy's going to change
up a bunch of things. But we know Biennemy likes
to throw to his backs. Did it up with jerck
McKinnon to a lesser extent with Clyde Edwards Hilaire, although
they should have thrown to him a lot more. I
thought Clyde Edwards Laiir is gonna catch, you know, like

(07:11):
forty five passes a season. I don't think he ever
get close to that. So in my mind, where I'm
ranking Antonio Gibson is as a pure pass catching back
and if I get any running numbers, that's just a bonus.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, And I think I'm kind of ranking him as
that way too. It's just is he going to be
one of like the top three or top five best
pass catching backs?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, yep, no that I don't think he can get
there because I don't think he's gonna be on the
field enough compared to Saquon Barkley and Austin Eckler, right,
I mean, you know, Christian McCaffrey. Mean, those guys are
on the field constantly and they get thrown to all
the time. I think Tony poll could be sitting on
a nice PPR season as well, But I don't know.
There's a lot of unknown with this. But there's the

(07:56):
other factor with Antonio Gibson that you just have to
factor in for a second. Ryan Robinson did not look
good in any aspect of the game, did not look
great as a runner, and he and he doesn't catch.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
He was also dealing with some gunshot wounds.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Probably okay, but you know, that's all right, I'll grant
him that for the first two months of the season,
But what's that after that? He still didn't look particularly
good to me.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, I don't know. There's just something about like the
Washington like run game. I can't It just always seems
like it's always so like clunky. It doesn't really seem
like there's anyone like always. I don't know. It just
I never who was the last great Washington pure like
running back, like first and down guy Alfred Morris and
then his Workie year. I honestly, is there another one?

(08:37):
Adrian Peterson at the end of his career right a
didn't like a nine yard run on Monday Night football?
I think, yeah, as a Redskin. But it's just I
don't understand. I don't I don't really Just Brian Robinson's
gonna be like the eight other guys before him. Who
it's just gonna He's gonna I don't know. He might
get some nice goal line work, but that's pretty much.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
In a deep wide running back draft. Why didn't Washington
draft or running back?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Did draft Chris Rodriguez?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Who they? Who they are?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Running?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
The apparently had a like a third round third round
great on, So.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay, maybe that's the angle here is Chris Rodriguez and
I don't know it, but yeah, all right, let's let's
talk about some of the guys going around running back
thirty six, which is where where we're said thirty six,
thirty eight round? Running back thirty eight, where Antonio Gibson's going?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
All right, Samaji p Ryan currently the RB thirty four.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I thought Pteran looked just okay last year when Joe
Mixon was kind of floundering and Pteran could have grabbed
that job in Cincinnati, didn't do it. He can catch
a little bit. By all accounts, Davante Williams is on
track to come back, maybe earlier than hoped. I think
I would go p Ryan and hope that if nothing else,

(09:52):
I've got half of a shared backfield.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Dalvin Cook also on Broncos Watch as well.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, he was on Broncos Watch. The connection to George Peyton,
the general now general manager of the Broncos, who was
basically the assistant general manager when Dalvin Cook was drafted. Yeah,
so that would be interesting landing spot.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'm gonna tak Gibson over Pete Run. I think be
run yet. I having a little bit more of an
expanded role when when if Javonte Williams were to miss
some time. But I just like Gibson season long kind
of receiving profile. Especially this is to note if we're
talking like half point PPR or just full point PPR. Yeah,
definitely going to be Gibson. And I'm not taking him
over p Ryan standard league, So everything I'm talking about

(10:32):
is kind of in at least some sort of a
PPR setting. So I'm gonna take Pete Rymet RB thirty
five Brian Robinson.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I just told you I thought he looked totally mundane
last year. Yeah. The catch here is year two. Some
running backs get a lot better in year two, and
so I'm not writing off Brian Robinson. I think he'll
take Brian Robinson and I'll try for touchdowns and you know,
because at the goal line that he's as good an
option as they've got. So I'll take Brian Robinson. He

(11:00):
I hope he gets better.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'll go Gibson. I Gibson in this backfield more I drafted.
I've been drafting Gibson over Robinson every chance I've been
able to, So I'm gonna keep going with Gibson. Okay,
Devin ah Chane RB thirty six.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I'll take the upside that I get out of a
Chane's game breaking ability and just hope that they're not
going to use a frustrating rotation of runners, which they
might in Miami.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
A Chane also sounds like kind of like a guy
who's gonna catch passes this season. He can catch, and
I wouldn't say most of Jeff Wilson really haven't either.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
He's the best receiving running back the guy.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah. Yeah, and a team that loves to pass the ball. Yeah,
I'll go a change just because I love the speed.
I'm a speed, big speed guy.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
How's that worked out for Antonio Gibson.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, but I'm still on Antonio Gibson, just not more
than a change because uh, I watched a Chane's highlights
on just because everyone's talking about the size thing, but
he didn't. You if you plays bigger than, it's way
bigger than everyone just wants to It's it's such a
kind of low hanging fruit. Oh he's small. He's not
gonna be a work horse in the NFL. No, he

(12:07):
might not be a work horse, but he can still
be a very versatile weapon in a Mike McDaniel off.
If he was like in like in Washington, he's a watchtep.
I wouldn't touch him because he's in Miami. I like it.
I like a chain.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
But I hear you.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Let's do one more guy, all right, Rashad Penny RB
thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
H Well, you know the bit on Penny, right, So
even if Penny stays healthy all year, they have so
many alternatives at running back and I just I'm just
I'm not I can't get myself to support Penny. And
even if he has a good start to the season
and he's healthy and every any game could be his last,
and then they've got this crowded backfield. You know, you
get DeAndre Swift and Kenneth Gainwell, and you know Hurston

(12:51):
Scott and Jayleen Hurts stealing all your touchdowns from inside
the five. So I'm out.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, I was not interested in, not interested in Rashad
Pibson for me.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Nice job today, Thank you for listening to everybody. Fantasy
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