Final Words Before You Draft

Charch, Scott and Brian distill everything they've learned in the preseason into their best advice for your draft. They demonstrate a variety of drafting personas to help you pick the mindset that best suits your goals. Of course, Charch previews the first Thursday night game of the season as well, FFW style.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
source for the nation's best fantasy speculation and advice. Now
along with the guys from gatine leagues dot com, here's
your host, Paul Chargian.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
It is the final draft edition of Fantasy Football Weekly.
I am Paul Charchi and co host today the same
as last week. It's the rare doubling up. Oh boy,
Scott Fish, Brian Johnson.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Hello, guys, Hey, I have to lock this job down. Man,
I need the money. I don't have a moat and
an ogre like you do over at your house, think
at Drawbridge.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Now, the ogre's not in the moat because he can't swim.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
No, no, And what I thought very interesting, very interesting
the last time I went over. It's not like your
traditional mythical ogre. You actually hired ogre from Revenge of
the Nerds.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
So that guy was all he's smashing the beer cans
on his ed right.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Uh yeah, you're talking about no no, no, I don't
know why I was thinking goonionies, didn't you My brain like, thank.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
God, it's the last stop putting charge.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Season show we need to start the season.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
You're putting ideas in charges head for new hires over
there at the moat.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
So much to get you this is this is a
lot of drafts already done, but there are no busier
times than the Labor Day, weekend and the days leading
up to the season. Many people's drafts are just you know,
we go the night before the start of the season
every year. Some do it during the game on Thursday night,
And we're going to break down the Thursday night game

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Fantasy Football Weekly style. Later, We're going to go through
all the preseason storylines. Were calling all the information we've
learned all preseason into one show for the best possible
draft advice we can give you, including draft what we
call draft day personas, the idea being you go in
with an idea like I want to go rookie heavy,
I want to go high risk, I want to do

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the opposite. Said, what does that roster look like if
you pull it off? Which ones do you like the best?
What if I'm wrong? We've been making a bunch of
assumptions over the course of the preseason. There's some things
that Okay, maybe you know, maybe we got this right.
Maybe we got it wrong, impossible, three tough questions, and
a lot of stuff to get to over the course
of the show. Let's break down thirty two teams from

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the preseason storylines, beginning with the woeful Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah they're tanking tight end. Zach Ertz is uncertain for
week one. He has been clear to practice, but he
himself says he's uncertain for week one. And Jonathan Gannon
won't name a starting head coach Jonathan Ain, Oh, it's
so secretive. He won't name a starting quarterback yet. Or
maybe he has in reporters simply fell asleep before he
got to that part of the press conference, which is

(02:48):
very possible.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Or they just left because he's bat crap, crazy basoys.
Jonathan Gannon, Now, I don't know about that. He's not
doing himself any favors any time he opens his mouth.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I think it's just doesn't seem very entertaining.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
He has a lot of fired up, a lot of
weird stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Anyway. Kyler Murray has been put on the pup, which
means newly acquired Josh Dobbs or Clayton Tune will be
the starter for week one. But they just lost their
center Pat Elfline for the season to an undisclosed injury.
I'm not sure what part of the body undisclosed is.
Where the undisclosed is. Maybe it's a new albore. I
don't know where it is, but it's not safe for radio.

(03:28):
It doesn't sound good. He's out for the season due
to it. So that's not going to help things.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Cardinals many have the worst offensive line of football, I mean,
compounding all the other things that they might be worst
at this year, Brian, the Atlanta Falcons, what are the
what's the preseason storyline you want to share here?

Speaker 4 (03:43):
It's every week it's Bjon Robinson listed is the third
running back on the on the depth chart for the Falcons.
But we know he's not the third running back. He's
the third running back. He being drafted in fantasy right now.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
So he might be one of the best third running
back on the team's ever.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah, he might.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
He could be really good, you think playing behind Cordaryl Patterson.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Ye, people are sleeping on how much work Tyler Aljier
is going to get Bijon. We got to assume he's
going to see the most touches among all Falcons running backs.
But I don't think it's going.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
To be bell cow bell cow usage that he's people
are expect to be the start.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
He's gonna be the starter, but will he be a
bell cow only time? Hotel And Kyle Pitts looks good
to go, coming off the knee injury that that ended
his season prematurely last year. And I want to throw
this out to all the Kyle Pitts haters, primarily you,
Paul Charcion. Last year, Kyle Pitts among receivers with fifty
plus targets, he was dead last and catchable target rate.

(04:40):
Of course, Marcus Mariota was his quarterback one hundred and
tenth among all players with fifty plus targets, Kyle Pitts
was dead last.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Casman Rider was also his quarterback last year, and I
have no no he was not. Kyle Pitts was hurt
when the switchovercast.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
So do we keep giving Brian the Kyle Pitts side
And it's like doing that Atlanta Falcons aside.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I know what's gonna happen when Brian heats hits the
Philadelphia Eagles. If there was an interesting transaction that may
have happened between them, we'll find out in a few
minutes a tease. Baltimore, Ravens, Injured Ravens, Mark Andrews, Rashad Bateman,
JK Dobbins all look ready for Week one, but Obj's
recovery is murkier. He's still missing odds and end's practices,

(05:24):
and I, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
It's been eighteen months. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I know the fact that he's still not like full
go is a little bit of a worry. And I
he may. I suspect OBJ plays Week one, but he
may be on more of a snapcount than we would
like to think. Let's go to the Buffalo Bills. Give
us a preseason.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Really not much. In the last week. Von Miller was
placed on pup, which means it can't be back till
week five, and it sounds like they're hopeful, but kind
of iffy for even that.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's a big loss. Let's go to the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Prime Djhark and Miles Sanders were banged up for the
majority of training camp preseason, but they should be good
to go week one. Again. This is a totally overhauled offense,
starting with their quarterback Bryce Young, the number one overall pick.
You know, Adam Thielen is a new edition DJ Shark,
the aforementioned DJ Shark, Jonathan Mingo rookie wide receiver picked

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in the second round. Miles Sanders new started running back,
so will this see and Hayden Hurst new starting tight end,
so again totally overhauled offense. We'll we'll see how it
goes in Carolina. But Chark and Sanders, there were some
concerns with them, but they should be ready for the
opener on Sunday in Chicago next Sunday.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Sorry, very likely that Khalil Herbert is the starter, with
Donta Foreman and Rashawn Johnson is the backups and probably
role players. Here Foreman gotdinged up in the final preseason game.
It should go in Week one. It's gonna be frustrating
for fantasy purposes. The Bears have four runners, including Travis
Homer they kept and projects to be a potentially frustrating committee.
I've got almost no shares of any of these guys
in my leagus. I'm worried about this committee. And I'll

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note that guard Tevin Jenkins, probably Chicago's best lineman, it's
going to start the season on ir so he's going
to miss some time Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Sure, Bengals signed quarterback Will Greer from the Dallas Cowboys,
who were actually I thought pretty classy and giving Will
Greer an extra an extra paycheck, a full full preseason
game to throw four touchdowns and get a job with
the Bengals. Joe Burrow on track for Week one, but
they say his mobility might be limited for the you know,

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early in the season and also a little bit of
a you know, an analyst darling Chase Brown appears to
have fallen to fourth on the depth chart, behind Chris
Evans and Trevion Williams, so it might be a while
for that one. Chris Evans is your backup, then.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Chris Evans is the backup of note and you know,
Joe makes a pass. I mean, you know, there's you know,
there might be an angle here. We're talking about Cincinnati
backup runners at some point. Brian Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Really not a lot of news coming out of Cleveland
all preseason. It's been about the backup running back situation.
Nick Chubb the clear cut starter running back for Cleveland.
Jerome Ford was the clear cut backup. He he injured
his hamsterring a few weeks ago, but he's been back
at practice, so he should be ready by a week one.
But Cleveland did trade for Pierre Strong Junior coming over
from the Patriots. He he could certainly push Jerome Ford

(08:12):
for those backup duties. I'm still leaning forward a little bit,
but now it's uh, it's murkier for if something were
to happen to Nick Chubb. But Nick Chubbs still still
in line to be a top He's my RB one still.
Even with the addition of Pierre Strong, I think he
will catch more passes than he has in the past.
So but there it is. But Jerome Ford should be
good to go, but he's been out on Pierre Strong.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Dallas Cowboys cut Malik Willis speaking of running back changes,
so Duce Vaughn moves into the undisputed role as Tony
Pollin's backup. Reminder, Tony Palin has never been a workhorse before.
Vaughan is an interesting prospect because of his unusually small stature.
Also a very good receiver and could be a helper
in PPR leagues. Really, the only other running back have noticed,

(08:53):
Ronald Jones is on roster, but he's bad.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Well, it's Rico Doubtel.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Before he's no good here. Also, you already know this,
Trey Lance traded to Dallas and will be the backup
for Dak Prescott. Let's go to the Denver Broncos. Give
me a preseason storyline here.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, So the Broncos, after their their cuts and of
trade of Albert Equibanam to the Eagles, only have three
healthy wide receivers on their active roster Cortland Sutton, rookie
Marvin Mims, and second year undrafted free agent Brandon Williams.
They're going to start the season with three healthy wide receivers.

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For Week one, you may see a decent amount of
workout of Adam Trupman and Greg Delsich, who Sean Payton
compared to a joker rule like Taysom Hill, Reggie Bush
and Alvin kamaras he wants to get the ball to
him in many ways. We'll see if that pends up.
Almost never pans out, or it'll be Taysom hillish where
it'll be, you know, one good week and then nothing.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
It could be Jerry Judy not being on ir A
was a big deal in this yes week, and it
looks like he could be ready as early as maybe
like we two Week three, so we're optimistic about that.
Detroit Lions, Brian.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Really not a new lot of news coming out of
Detroit all preseason. I'm on ras Saint Brown had an
ankle issue a couple of weeks ago. He should be
good to go in week one. It's really we talked
about this last week. No other wide receiver is being
drafted for Detroit who isn't suspended for the first six games.
That's James and Williams, of course, But I think Josh

(10:25):
Reynolds deserves some attention as a late round dart throw
for an offense that's going to be one of the
most prolific offenses through the air supposedly, So Josh Reynolds
keeping an eye on him going in the later rounds
of your draft.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
In Green Bay, Romeo Dobbs' hamstring injury has a very
real chance of keeping him out of the opener against Chicago,
which just too bad. He looked great in the preseason
prior to the injury and connection if he doesn't go,
that really opens the door for second round rookie Jayden
Reid to stake acclaim to the job. And you know
that Chicago secondary looks to be bad. It was bad
last year, it looks like it's gonna be bad this year.
Read you know, Reid might have an opportunity here. And really,

(11:01):
totality of the preseason for Jordan Love, I would like
to say, we really learned a lot about Jordan Love.
We have a better sense, but I think it reinforced
all of our existing beliefs on Jordan Love, which is
pretty good. Mobility, big arm, accuracy problems, decision making question
marks on Jordan Love. I didn't see anything in the
preseason with Jordan Love that changed my opinion on what

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we thought we knew.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Being down weapons is not going to.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Help Houston Texans.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
C J. Stroud has named the starter finally, and they
also put Juice Scruggs, the center they traded up for
in the second round of the NFL Draft on ir
So had already not great offensive line taken a hit.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Indianapolis Colts, Brian.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Have you heard about Jonathan Taylor or what was happening
Jonathan Taylor?

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Tell me more?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
What did something happen Jonathan Taylor? They failed to trade
him or Jonathan Taylor failed to trade himself. Still kind
of a gray area there, but he will or at
the season on the pup list. Is he actually hurt,
There's a chance, but it's really about payment here. But
so that leaves Evan Hole, who we all love on
this show. Deon Jackson or Zach Moss could return from

(12:13):
his broken forearm injury sooner than expected. I think we're
all on team Hole. Deon Jackson is still going like
two rounds ahead of Hole that I've seen. I think
Hole is still the guy you want to target. His
past kept catching upside, very intriguing. But yeah, Jonathan Taylor
a brutal blow to people who've been drafting him, even
in the third round. He will miss the first four

(12:34):
games regardless.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'm seeing him go in the sixth round a job.
It's it's a disaster, but maybe too much. So remember,
Jonathan Taylor can't just like hold out at the end
of this because his contract will toll if he doesn't play,
and then you have to replay this year this year's contract,
so we won't do that, and presumably healthy by the
end of four more weeks, so you know, you know,

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if he's going after more in the sixth round, I'm
sitting in Jonathan town. Yeah, all right, let's go to
the Jacksonville Jaguars. Calvin Ridley looked great all training camp
and gave him extensive action, including in the last preseason game.
He looked good. Tank Bigsby, I should it pains me
to note it, but I need to say it. Goal
line fumble last week, but otherwise a really strong preseason,
averaging almost six yards per carry for Tank.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Biggs led the NFL in an explosive run rate in
the preseason.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Oh, I love that runs. I think Big Sby that
is our guy, right there? No, not that one. Wait,
there we go. There's our tank, Big Sby. Give me
some tank when we come back. We'll continue working through
all thirty two teams as you get ready for your drafts.
Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. Our final

(14:08):
draft edition. It next next week. It's all matchups.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yep, that's gonna be fun. It's gonna be I enjoy
that format too.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I do too.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
We love it.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
We're gonna do it roughly eighteen times. Roughly roughly eighteen times.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Well, I'm not going to No, you could do that.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
You're right, I will do it eighteen times.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I'll skip a few.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
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Speaker 3 (14:37):
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Speaker 4 (14:48):
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Speaker 1 (14:51):
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for way to play. Let's go back to our preseason action,
beginning with Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Chiefs fantasy analysts. Darlene's wide receivers Rushie Rice and Justin
Ross will start the season as limited time players, snap
package players, not the full time we had hoped for.
We'll see how Ctarious Tony's injury comes along for how
many snaps they'll get. So yeah, let's should damper your
hopes on them a little bit. But they're just really talented.

(15:26):
So it kind of guy you want at the end
of your roster. They also cut de Nerk Prince, who
started off hot but then trailed off the end of
the preseason. Once Pachecko got fully healthy, they just kept Pacheco,
McKinnon and ce H Clyde Edwards E. Lair on roster.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Clyde Edwards Law is getting drafted in almost all my leagues.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Really, I'm like, he's not mine.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
None of my rosters said this was That's one of
my personal biggest.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Was in our league. He didn't, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Las Vegas, by the way, speaking to Chiefs will break
down the Thursday night game in a little bit, Las
Vegas Raiders Ryan.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Unlike the Jonathan Taylor situation in Indie, we've finally resolved
the Josh Jacobs situation situation in Vegas. He officially inked
a one year deal. So last year's RB three will
be in action week one. He is he had slipped
into the mid to late third round. I've seen him
going more like late second now. But if he returns
the forum from last year in absolute steel in the

(16:20):
late second round, right now.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I have a Raiders question. There have been images of
Jimmy Garoppolo with a dark visor as a quarterback. If
he does play with that, does he move up or
down to the ranks?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Charge?

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Because I know that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I kind of like it, Yeah, I kind of like it.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
There has been much talk about Jimmy g in preseason, though,
which is a sort of alarming. Well, we said Aid
and O'Connell.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Connell's got a lot more buzz than he does.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Keep an eye on him. He could take.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
But does he wear a dark visor? That's all I
need to know.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Los Angeles Charters Chargers dicker kicker won the kicking job
as expected. He was there. He kicked for them at
last year in parts of the season as well. Quentin
Johnson looked good. But we should note that boring old
Josh Palmer got far more first team reps in the.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Pre Reporters really think he's the number three.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Quinton Johnson did. So you know, if you're drafting Johnson,
just know that this might be a bit of a
slog before he gets on the field. And who knows.
When you know Josh Palmer was he was, he was
a We talked about him a lot at this time
last year as somebody that we thought was going to
be a nice like last pick of your draft. And
he ended up like a sixty catch eight hundred yard season. Yeah,
you know, he's not a bad player. Next up the

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Los Angeles Rams, where we have to talk about Cooper Cup.
Of course we.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Do, we do. He had a slight set back this
week with his handstring. We don't we actually don't. We
know nothing. We know he had a setback and that's
all it is. And he's day to day, which you
never know how that's going to be with a hamstring injury,
because those things tend to linger reinjure if they don't keep,
they don't they're not easy on it. He's day to day.
I think that risk pushes him back to round two,

(17:57):
round three in many drafts. We don't, we don't know anything.
We don't know if he'll be ready for Week one.
I would guess.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
No.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I believe I dropped him down to like wide receiver fifteen,
which is going to put him like third round, fourth round,
and face we know right now, usually if you re
injure the hamstring, it's a do over. You know, the
clock goes back almost to reset, and so it's you know,
this is this is patained, potentially very dangerous for Cooper Cup.

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Miami Dolphins Brian.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
More bad news when it comes to a fantasy football
and unexpected development in the Dolphins backfield. On Thursday, when
Jeff Wilson Junior was put on IR, he was he
had missed most of camp with an undisclosed injuries. But
no one really you know, read too much into that.
But the beat writers in Miami let us all down
big time because he's going to miss at least the
first four games for Miami Miami, which makes Raheem Moster

(18:49):
the queer cut starter. Yeah, for the Dolphins, Devin, it's
a change. We'll back him up, and so we'll Salvin Achmed.
So Raheem most are at the starter. But a Chane
and Achmed, well, we'll see some touches out of that
Miami backfield. But first four games, no go for Jeff Wilson.
His agent, Drew Rosenhouse did say he does expect him

(19:10):
to return shortly after the four games stint on IRS.
Hopefully that's the case.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
That's where I just let everybody else draft the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I don't have any Dolphine maas same vikings. Jordan Addison
looked great all training camp in the limited preseason action
and his offensive coordinator. This week, Wes Phillips described him
as a Justin Jefferson clone, and you might be thinking, well,
you know, it's his own coach, but coaches are very
very careful about giving that.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, they know what Jefferson looks like in practice.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
So that's that says a lot ty Chandler won the
backup running back job as predicted on this show, and
he's uncontested there. Miles Gaskin was added for depth, and
the Vikings re up t J. Hockinson to the biggest
deal in tight end history, further cementing his role in
the Vikings offense. Next up, New England Patriots.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Not a whole lot here, Bailey Zappi was waived and
then on practice squad after a pretty terrible preseason. They
added Matt Coral and Jalen Rager, which from the Vikings
it's not a whole lot there.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Now kants New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
I've got more bad news. Kendre Miller. Rookie running back
Kendre Miller injured his hamstring on Thursday, So his status
for Week one is if he we all know, Alvin
Kamara will missed the first four games. He's suspended, So
Jamal Williams stocks surging, especially in guillotine leagues, but really
all leagues when you want to get off to a
hot start.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
I don't even know who else is on the depth
chart behind Miller in Kamara, so Jamal Williams in line
for a Bell cow role. And lastly, I got to
mention quickly if you watched the last preseason game for
the Saints, Jimmy Graham looked pretty good. Is he gonna
be a thing man I can't like in the red zone?
I mean, he's hot, He's just gonna be used in
the red zone. But he scored and it was vintage

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Jimmy Graham.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
He's still probably six foot six and get two.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Can they get him on field for seven plays a game?
He scores a touchdown or two maybe in that amount
of snaps.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
It was like a textbook box out on the touchdown.
I think he might have played basketball in the past.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I don't know something.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Maybe in for the Giants, Cole Beasley and Jameson Crowder
got cut, which means the Giants are down to three
slot receivers.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh man, that yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Just Paris Campbell was the starter along with Wendale Robinson
and Sterling Shepherd. The handcuff to Saquon Barkley. I should
mention Matt Brita going undrafted in most leagues, so if
you want to get that handcuff, there's your guy. Next up,
New York Jets.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Dalvin Cook is now practicing there, so that's that's good.
And Robert Sela says, uh, they're going to be smart
with Breest Hall's usage, which says to me they view
that the Jets are a playoff team, possible contenders, and
they're going to run a little bit of a committee
there to keep everyone healthy. I'm not I'm not sure
how much I'm loving that. There's also a little bit
of talk about Tyler Conklin has been Rogers number two

(21:54):
and and might be the number two for the season
behind Wilson, which I don't. We'll see how much Rogers
buddies on the team are going to play into that layer.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
All right. Next up, Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
No, we're not going to talk about Dan Arnold.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Why not? We spent a lot of time on Dan
Arnold last week?

Speaker 4 (22:11):
All right, Well, the Dolphins or the Dolphins. I'm sorry
that the Eagles made a huge mistake, because when Arnold
gets targets in twenty twenty one, we are Arnold. I'm
not done twenty twenty one with the Jaguars. Before he
got injured, he was one of five tight ends to
have three straight games with sixty receiving yards, with Travis Kelsey,
Mark Andrews, George Kittle, Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Can we just change this to Dantasy Football Weekly?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Amazing?

Speaker 4 (22:35):
He will have his time.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
His time will come picked him up when he got cut.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
He's still out there.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
But don't worry.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Hey, if we want to go over missus, we can
do that. I never said like draft Dan Arnold in
the first round or anything.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
He was like not yet.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
For now, Dan will be fine. I can own up
to it. I'll go back to the Saints real quick.
Kirk Merritt might be the backup running back. Yeah, I've
never heard of career, but he's he's a real person.
But who are we talking about? The Eagles. Yeah, we'll
stick with the running back topic. Rashod Penny has made
the team. Things were looking a little dicey for Penny

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in the preseason, but another backfield that is super murky
in Philly with Kenneth Gainwell, who is still the supposed starter,
DeAndre Swift, Rashad Penny. We'll just have to see how
that that plays out. But really another one to you
really want to avoid him.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I'm just I'm willing to be wrong on the Eagles
backs because I don't I don't want to play that game.
Steelers first team offense had five preseason drives and five
preseason too. Yeah, and Aleck, you know, you know it's
only preseason. We're not trying to read too much into this,
but Steelers offensive line looks much improved. Can He Pikett
looks much improved. All the Steelers players available at a

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pretty healthy discount coming off of last year's down season,
So you know, there might be it might be a
buyer's market for the Steelers who have looked good this preseason.
San Francisco forty.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Nine ers Scott Elijah Mitchell returned to practice after the
a doctor strain. The same week, the foy nine ers
state they want to they want to have Christian McCaffrey
get a little less work this year.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
So does that comment change your feelings on Christian McCaffrey
right now? Going off the board as pick two, pick
three in fantasy.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
He's still so I think they want to use Christian
McCaffrey efficiently, and he's such an efficient player anyway through
the passage.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
So do you like him more because they say they're
going to try to keep him on the field lest
you always hate that he's going to be Therefore, you
always hate the takeaway a volume and you worry that
part of that is goal line stuff where he has
a great nose for the end zone. But maybe they
want to take away those hits. So I know I
don't like him more, but I certainly still have him
ranked around the same. They also, and I you know,

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they obviously traded Trey Lance to the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
We've talked about that a little. But they released Chris
Conley this week. No, I know, Yes, I had.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Not our twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
I had to bring it up our twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Take a chance on me, superstars, superstar.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yes, he's not on a team now. He's somewhere with
Dan Arnold hanging out Seattle Seahawks Brian.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Rookie, wide receiver Jackson Smith and Jigba back at practice
after undergoing rist surgery a couple of weeks ago. We
were speculating he was gonna miss multiple weeks, but it
looks like he might be ready for week one. And
this is really more for the Dynasty players out there
a deep stash. But if something were to happen to
any of these starting receivers for Seattle, especially DK Metcalf,

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Jake Bobo, underrafted wide receiver out of UCLA getting rave
reviews out of camp, made the team's six four, two
hundred and ten pounds. Jake Bobo, We're big Bobo Bobo's
now I'm a big Bobo Bobo.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Tampa Bay, the talk of training camp. Running back Sean
Tucker easily made the cut and most people believe he's
the immediate backup to Rashad White, and maybe this is
closer to a fifty to fifty time share than people think.
The Bucks are very high. Also on sixth round, wide
out Trey Palmer Worth with Russell Gage out for the year.
Palmer's rejected to get starting reps as early as week one.

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He's a former track star who ran a four to
three three combine. He mostly ran in the slot in Nebraska.
But the problem is Chris Godwin's in the slot, so
the Bucks are trying to push him outside and maybe
he can be an outside receiver opposite Mike Evans. Like
most track stars turned football players, Palmer's kind of a
one trick guy. Run fast, run straight. But maybe over

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time he develops into you know, develops some a a
better repertoire of moves. So we'll see. We'll keep tracking
Trey Palmer. Trey Palmer, Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Let's let's stick with the trays and go with Trey.
Lawn Burks back at practice and we already saw a
great one handed catch landing on the leg that had
the LCL sprain. He's also cutting. He's got the sleeve
off now too. Looks like he's going to be good
to go for week one.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, that's good news. We're excited for that. I continue
to worry that Tennessee's just doesn't get fantasy points out
of their second receiver.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
We'll see if that possible.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Lastly, Washington Commanders.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Wide receiver Terry McLaurin still uncertain for Week one with
his turf toe injury. We all love Johan Dotson, of course,
but if McLaurin were to miss a game or two,
that bumps up Curtis Samuel and Diami Brown and Logan Thomas,
who I had as a deep deep sleeper making progress
with his calf injury. They've been cautious with him. But
if you were to miss Week one, Cole Turner against

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the Cardinals for you daily players, bare minimum, ye, amazing matchup.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Just Sam Howell.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
If you're into daily well that too. He's gonna be
kind of.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Chalky though you think he's gonna be too jockey.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Everyone's gonna use the Cardinals in their eliminator, in their
survivor pool too as well. I'm sorry that the Commanders
against the Cardinals at home.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
This is Jame in Washington right here. Yeah, no doubt
about it. When do we come back, We're gonna talk
through your draft day persona. What's your mindset going into
your draft? You go high risk, you going low risk,
you're going rookies.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
We'll talk through what your roster construction looks like when
you do that. Also, consider taking a shadow league of
your regular league as a guillotine league. Take a lot
save players play in a private guillotine league. Guillotine leagues
dot com. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. It is draft season,

(28:20):
last week of your chance to draft. Yes, yeah, coming
up in a little bit. We're gonna talk about drafting
it this time of year versus drafting a month ago. Yeah,
we'll talk more about that later.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Well, it is the last week in like standard leagues,
but don't forget league ard. Anytime there is drafts week two,
week three, you can always spin up a new yueteen
league and they will be available at least through week
nine ten.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Absolutely, So you go into your draft with sort of
a theme, a preset, a mindset like I want to
be I want to choose safe players, I want to
choose risky players.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I asked each of you to come up with a
mind set to have. And then how does that draft
look every round? You know, if you go into the
particular mindset, what does that roster construction look like? In
you listeners, you can listen to the totality of it
and go, yeah, I like that or I don't like that,
And that gives you a sense of which mindset you
should walk into your draft with. I'm gonna start with

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a do the opposite draft. This should show nobody.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
This sounds fresh and new.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
This is fresh and new. Everybody. Everybody's doing it now,
all the kids are doing Do the Opposite now, So
if you haven't heard this show in twenty years, Do
the Opposite is where you chue running backs until the
mid rounds because running back to the most vallible position,
and you don't want to put your highest draft capital
into the most dangerous position, So we load up on
other positions and then we hit then we hit running
backs in the mid rounds. Here's what my draft looks

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like through eight rounds of Do the Opposite. Round one
and I kind of would like right down the middle
roughly of each of these rounds. Round one, Tyreek Hill,
safe player, very good player. Round two Garrett Wilson. Obviously
I'm not taking running backs. I love Garrett Wilson. I
can get him in the middle of round two, coming

(30:08):
off one of the best rookie receiver seasons ever.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Earlier in the year, he was my guy outside the
top twelve wide receivers. I thought could be wide receiver
one this year. Now he's like wide receiver four.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
So you would say that exactly. I think. I think
I've got him at six on my cheat sheet. Now
it's round three, I've got two receivers. I'm gonna go
Lamar Jackson here for the freaky upside. Right then, I'm
gonna go round four. I'm still not going running back yet.
I'm gonna go Calvin Ridley. I've already got two receivers,
so I'm filling a flex spot here with Calvin Ridley

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in around a lot. Now, why not take a chance
to Ridley's got the super high upside. Maybe some downside
to him. Sure, but I've already got two good receivers.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Now it's round five. I gotta square my square away
my tight end. You know how I feel about this.
You gotta have You gotta have one of the six
good tight ends in my world. Darren Waller, Oh, I
love the upside.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
How are you passed on Damian Pierce over Ridley last?

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Well?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, well I can't do that and do the opposite draft.
So now now it's round six, and now I'm looking
at running backs.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
A K.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Dobbo. Yes, I get a starting running back on it,
which should be a more balanced offense.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
We're gonna talk more about JK. Dobbins later.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
We will.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
I want you to round seven, Denver running back Javonte Williams. Okay, okay,
I'll play for the bounce back here and then round eight,
I'm gonna go running back again. I'll take aj Dillon.
I'll get my call, I'll get the gold mine guy.
I don't love Dylan, but it's round eight. I got
a starting, I got a starter. He's a flex guy.
Actually I don't know how to start them. He kind
of just flex AJ Dillon. So there's my eight round.

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Do the opposite draft, Tyler Kill, Garrett Wilson, Lamar Jackson,
Calvin Ridley, Darren Waller, JK. Dobbins, Javontay Williams, aj Dillon.
I love this team. I'm ready to go to war.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
It's all right.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
I like it. I like it.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
If you do too, consider it. Do the opposite draft.
Let's go to Brian with your draft strategy or your
draft mindset.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Called dto to do the opposite of the opposite.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Do the opposite of do the opposite.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
And this is a retro draft. This is what people
used to do. This is taking three running backs with
your first three three picks. This is now like this
is how it used to go fifteen twenty years ago.
People would do this cause there would be.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Like Sean Alexander twenty.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Five running backs that dominated the backfield.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, back when there were were course backs.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Now there aren't many. So if you can actually successfully
execute this, it will require some luck not getting any
you know, injury bugs biting your backs. You have a
major edge on most of your league. So we'll go
through this round by round, and I got like a
couple of candidates, so you can take in each round.
Starting in round one, you should be able to and

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land Austin Eckler, Nick Chubb, or Bjon Robinson. I like
Chubb and Eckler way more than Bijon because we still
don't know if he's gonna get that bell cow usage.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
But running back, so yeah, he's the preseason so you
so we'll go Echlo Chubb in round one.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
In round two, you can land either Saquon Barkley, Tony
Pollard or Derrick Henry, who sadly is in the twilight
of his career. I prefer Barkley of these three. He's
in a contract year. Again, you can expect bell cow
usage from Barkley in a very high scoring offense or
offenses that's projected to be high scoring. So there's your

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first two picks. We'll just call it say Eckler and
Barkley or Chubb and Barkley. And round three you're looking
at Josh Jacobs, hopefully who again has signed a one
year deal expected to get a ton of usage. Joe
Mixon is kind of the last bell Cow candidate here,
but I'm gonna keep Andre Stevenson in the mix. I
know Ezekiel Elliott has signed with the Patriots, but their

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career paths are on totally different.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Back like different arcs.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Stevenson is surging, Zeke is on the way down. I
don't think Zeke's gonna steal too much work from Ramandre,
but I prefer Jacobs out of those three. So you
got your three running backs there. Now you got to
get your your wide receivers, your quarterback, and your tight end.
So in round four, I'll go for my first wide receiver.
Whether it's DJ Moore, Amari Cooper, or Christian Watson. Those

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are all the number one receiving options for their teams.
I'd be happy to go with go to war with
any of them as my wide receiver. One with those
three running backs have drafted in the first three rounds,
then in rounds five and six, you want to get
your first quarterback end or your first tight end. In
round five, you can go between either Joe Burrow or
Darren Waller. I prefer to take Waller here because then

(34:38):
in round six I can get Trevor Lawrence. That's my
quarterback one. But if you went Burrow in round five,
you can get TJ. Hockinson in round six. You can't
be too upset with having t J. Hawkinson as your
tight end one. Lastly, the last two rounds will need
your wide receiver two and your wide receiver three. In
round seven you're looking at Chris Godwin, Zay Flowers, Jordan Addam,

(35:00):
all nice options in PPR, and then round eight Jackson
Smith and Jigua. But I'd rather lean Michael Pittman's available
there or Courtland Sutton were both the wide receiver ones,
clear cut wide receiver ones for their team.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Sol Sutton is for now, I mean for now, when
Judy's back, he's the he's the ghost.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
I don't trust Judy at all, but hopefully I'm wrong there.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I kind of do too. He's ad a heavy discount
right now, all right, So there's your do the opposite
of do the opposite. So running back, I don't give
me one player from each round.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
You if you do the opposite of the opposite, you
can get Austin Eckler, Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, DJ Moore,
Darren Waller, Trevor Lawrence, Chris Godwin, Michael Pittman. I like
that team as long as my running back stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Scott, you took a what approach, a rookie heavy approach.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Weird that I got this one, Yeah, strange like yeah,
Thor being in here would probably get this one too.
So all right, so and give me one player round. Yeah, yeah,
that's what I'm gonna do. I'm I'm just gonna go
down the list and then I'm gonna give you what
my roster looks like at the end.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Okay, perfect.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
I started. First round, I went with John Robinson. If
I'm going rookie heavy, it's probably got to be Jean Robbins.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
That's got to be the pick.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
The second round, not real, not a whole really, no
rookies there. So I went Garrett Wilson, who I've been
drafting everywhere.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Third round, my big options were Jamiir Gibbs or a
wide receiver. Jamiir Gibbs being the rookie, and then the
wide receivers are like DK Metcalf, you know, T Higgins types.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
So the rookie.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I went with the rookie to stay rookie heavy, Bje.
How do you feel about Gibbs. I'm nervous about the touchdown.
I feel like he's I feel like he's a special player.
I just don't know where his touches will be, and
I don't know where he'll get if he gets goal
line work. But I love that offense. I love what
Ben Johnson's doing over there. So Jamiir Gibbs. Next round.
I reached around a little bit for Jamian Pierce. I
need to get me some Damian Pierce here. And now

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I've got three running backs in the first four rounds,
which I don't love, but I did so knowing where
the rookie wide receivers go in these drafts, and I
already have my wide receiver one in Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
And Peters is like almost half a rookie because he
missed half of his rookie season.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Okay, you missed a couple of yeah yeah, Next round,
like you charge, I gotta give me some Darren Waller
in that fifth I said this last week. And if
I'm in the fifth round and Darren Waller and Waller
is there, it's an auto pick for me. So Darren Waller,
then here's where I go wide receivers, and I see
these rookies and whatnot, these young players I love. In

(37:27):
the next three rounds, I knocked down Jordan Edison, Jackson
Smith and Jigba and Johan Dotson. All those are my
next three rounds. I got those three going with Garrett Wilson.
I'm fine with that receiving corps. You've thrown out Wilson
and Dotson and Addison and and Jigba for the first
for your four wide receivers. I'm good. Uh. Then I
go back to back of Kirk Cousins and Anthony Richardson.

(37:49):
I take the super high upside rookie that can get
tons of and then I take and I also take
the safe other guy to make sure that I have
a good I haven't after that tank bigsby Nico Collins,
Roshan Johnson. I went thirteen rounds on you, okay, but
I did draft six or seven rookies. So here's what

(38:10):
I got in my rookie heavy at quarterback Ready Richardson
and Cousins.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
You like that, Yeah, yeah, absolutely like you backed him
up with Cousins.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yes, running back Bijon Robinson, Jamier Gibbs, Damian Pierce, Tank
Bigsby Roshan Johnson. I'm happy with those, Yeah, I got.
I got Bijon and pierces my starters, and some upside
wide receiver. I got Garrett Wilson, Jordan Addison, JSN Jaxons
Smith and Jigba, Johan Dotson and Nico Collins all could

(38:42):
be wide receiver ones or twos on their teams. And
then Darren Waller at tight end and wha.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Waller's really the only old guy on this roster.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
He is, but when you're talking about the top six
tight ends, my only other optionist pits and he didn't
land right for my draft.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
You could make the argument that Garrett Wilson is a
rookie in the sense that this is his first year
to playing with a competent quarterback. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
The same thing for Johan Dotson.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
So now that we all agree, I clearly have the
best team. No, I think, well, you've got more players.
So I got thirteen. I got thirteen picks, eight over here.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
All right, the last draft persona is the safe draft.
If you just want proven guys that don't have all
the sizzle. As you know, so many people walk into
the draft going I want to be the smartest guy here.
I'm taking the guy nobody's heard of or the guy
that hasn't proved yet, and when it turns out that
he's great, I'm gonna look brilliant. What if you want
to flip that over proven players who don't get injured,

(39:38):
generally play on high scoring offenses.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Can I make a statement here? My son before this
year was completely out of the you know, analyst echo
chamber and listening to all this stuff, and he simply
grabbed safe players that score points. He's never finished worse
than second in the league.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
There's a lot to that, a lot to that.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I just want safe players to score points.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
This is the opposite of what you just did. Basically,
you took all upside young players exactly. So round one
we're gonna go Travis Kelce available usually right round four
or pick four, So of round one, round two we're
gonna go Jalen Hurts proven everything that we needed needed
him to prove. We loved him going into this at
this time last year, and he paid off on that
and he's got even more upside this year. Round three

(40:22):
Seattle wide receiver DK Metcalf. Proven guy. You know what
you're gonna get, and it's, you know, obviously very productive.
Round four the old man Keenan Alley. Yep, it's look it.
All he does is be productive. Yes, he misses a
few games a year and I almost threw him out
because of that, but you know, super productive guy. Hall

(40:42):
of Fame career for Keenan Allen. Round five Damian Pierce.
I think he's proven. All he needs to prove.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yep. Sure.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Round six Alexander Madison. Now he's proven in that he
belongs in the NFL. He's now starting at a proven
offense and at the goal line they're probably gonna give
him the ball. So yeah, sure, Alexander Madison is my
sort of boring, safe draft running back. Then round seven,

(41:10):
another running back. You'll notice that you also worked in
a do the opposite. Here we went tight end, quarterback
receiver receiver. Now we're going with three straight running shots
David Montgomery. Okay, okay, so a lot of we're gonna
have that right, and he can catch and he can
you know, you can still get carries outside of the
goal line, and he's a better non goal line runner
the Jamal Williams was. And then round eight again, sticking

(41:32):
with this theme of safe, kind of boring guys, Brandon Cooks.
Brandon Cooks is good, you know, finds himself in a
good landing spot with a good quarterback, and.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Especially at his price, he like always gets a thousand
yards and we just yeah, we just no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Brandon Cooks. Whenever nobody's nobody's excited to get Brandon Cooks.
I am so Travis Kelcey, Jalen Hurts, DK Metcalf, Keenan Allen,
Damian Pierce, Alexander Madison, David Montgomery, Brandon Cooks. That's the
boring safe draft. Nobody loves it, nobody loves the sizzle.
But these are all guys who are proven it.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Did you take a you took a quarterback in both
the years, Brian, did you take a quarterback in yours?

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Quarterback?

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Burrow?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
I took Lawrence.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Burrow and Lawrence are in that five.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
So in all three years, do you do you feel
you need to get one of those top eight quarterbacks?
Do you feel that the drop offs that that big
that you like If you're doing a draft, do you
want to get one of those top eight or you're
fine dropping out.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
It's not a necessity, but it just kid drop offs
after Lawrence is like the consensus QB eight, and then
it's Deshaun Watson like two rounds later, and you don't
want to be the guy taking Deshaun Watson. Basically, we've
talked about that a lot.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Who doesn't like Joe Burrow. We all love Joe Burrow,
we all love Trevor Lawrence. Here's the problem. Those elite
rushing quarterbacks that style you two different ways are going
in round one, round two, beginning a round three after that.
Now I dropped down to the Burrow Trevor Lawrence stuff right,
and I gotta pay fourth round for those guys, but

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I can get eighty percent of their production in the
eighth round, Gino, tenth round, Gino Smith Kirk Cousins, I
get eighty percent of what those guys and.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Then you're getting a stud wide receiver or whatever exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I'm getting some study.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
That is another reason why I love Anthony Richardson and
backing up safe because I think I read something like
running quarterbacks that get over seven hun hundred yards rushing.
Almost every single one has been a top twelve quarterback.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Burrow and Lawrence both five rushing touchdowns last year, though
four fourth most they can, They are mobile, and they
get a little bit.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
They got a little bit Burrough's gun injury.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
All right.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
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Fish twenty four.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
You got it, here we go.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I'm in now, I'm in regular season four.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
There it is.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
You can follow Brian Johnson at bt XJ and I'm
at Paul Charcion. This is a game we call three
tough questions.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Tough question number one.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Two years ago, Damian Harris surprised many with fifteen touchdowns.
Last year, Jamal Williams had seventeen touchdowns. Give me an
off the radar candidate for a fifteen touchdown season, Brian.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
I feel like I'm taking the easy Chalky way out. Bye.
You're saying Jamal williams replacement in David Montgomery in Detroit.
As you mentioned, Jamal Williams seventeen rushing touchdowns last year. Now, granted,
I'm monro Saint Brown got tackled at the one yard
line like five or six times, which helped contribute to

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that touchdown total. But Jamal Williams no longer in Detroit.
David Montgomery signed to supposedly take over his role, or
that's what we can all assume we know. Jamir Gibbs
was also drafted by Detroit. They sunk a ton of
draft capital into him, but he's really not built for
the goal line. We talked about this last week. His
stuff rate is incredibly high, his yards over expectation incredibly lowed.

(45:39):
It's not what you want to see from a goal
line back. So the Detroit offense shouldn't take many like
big steps backwards from last year. So, and David Montgomery
a household name when it comes to fantasy football players,
but he's still RB twenty five. Seems kind of off
the radar to me for a guy that does have

(45:59):
double digit touchdown potential, maybe even fifteen touchdown.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
All right, David Montgomery's here, answers, Scott, give me an
off the radar candidate for a fifteen touchdown season.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
So I thought about David Montgomery, but I kind of
felt like you were trying to bait me into it
after we talked about David Montgomery last week with similar situation,
and Brian touched on a lot of those points. I
have two. I have both. I don't know how off
the radar they are, but I'm going to start with
Anthony Richardson. I think it's very possible he punches fifteen

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in on the ground, the amount of design runs they
have for him. We've seen what Jalen Hurts did scoring
thirteen or fourteen last year. We saw justin Fields score
ten last year, and I think there's a little more
opportunity for him than there are for those two. Given
Taylor's going to be out four weeks and they have,
you know, a pretty good offense at least one of
the best offensive linemen in the in the game, but

(46:56):
decently decent offensive line. But my second one, I felt like,
maybe you actually wanted a running back. So I'm going
to go to a running back. I'm going to go
with JK. Dobbins.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
All right, make your case.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
I'm going to JK. Dobbins in an offense that I
think is going to be one of the top offenses
in the league. I think it's going to be one
where he's going to get a lot of opportunities. And
if you look at the a few of the years
with Todd Monkin when he was with the Jacksonville Jaguars,
MJD went for fourteen touchdowns, sixteen touchdowns. He had a
Fred Taylor MJD split, which I don't think there's really

(47:29):
a lot of us split here with Dobbins where they
combined for fourteen touchdowns. He's kind of done it with
backs before. So with a top offensive line that the
Ravens have, we saw JK. Dobbins's rookie year score nine
touchdowns on he scored nine times.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
He scored nine times on just one hundred.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
And thirty four carries. He's going to get a ton
more than that this year. His college and this isn't rushing,
but his college tape showed he's like Damian Pierce, a
capable bass catcher that just hasn't been asked to do it.
I think that this might be a sneaky play here
in JK. Dobbins might get to fifteen.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
All right, you gotta bring it down to one guy.
You don't get two answers to this question. Pick Richardson
or Dobbins.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Oh my gosh, I'm gonna stick with Dobbins. I think
Richardson might be more likely. I think Dobbins is the
sneak year one. I'll go Dobbins.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
The correct answer is sneaky under the radar player who
can score fifteen touchdowns? JK. Dobbins, Yes, answer that boom
now prior to last year when Baltimore's offense was in
tatters and you know Dobbins was hurt, Lamar Jackson was hurt.
The here's the Ravens NFL ranks and rushing touchdowns over
the previous four years tenth, third, fifth, sixth. I know

(48:45):
what you're saying, Oh, but charge that was Lamar Jackson
running in all those touchdowns. No, it wasn't last year
at two. The year before he had three rushing touchdowns.
They don't use them at the stripe that way. Baltimore
running backs have scored fourteen or more touchdowns and five
of the past six seasons, and through JK. Dobbins career,
he has turned thirteen career goal line carries into ten

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touchdown Yeah. That is a seventy seven percent conversion rate,
which is mind bogglingly high. He is a goal line assassin. Boom, JK. Dobbins,
Is he correct?

Speaker 4 (49:18):
An?

Speaker 3 (49:19):
I like that we landed on the same one.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Well, that means you got it right side. Note by
the way, JK. Dobbins to lead the NFL in rushing touchdowns,
you can bet that. And if it's evel in your
state forty five to one.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, see it. When I was looking up the sneaky ones,
I specifically looked at that to find someone who is
well outside the top ten.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Tough question number two.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Most people believe there are six proven tight ends. Should
you draft two of the six, creating further scarcity at
the most short suited position, Scott.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
So I get the thought and I have done bully
tight end drafting two of the top ones many times
in my fantasy career. I love the move. It gives
me a great flex player, and it keeps me out
of bye week. Hell for my tight end, I absolutely
love the move. It's just so tough this year, given
that those six height ends pretty much are gone by

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the end of the fifth. Sometimes you'll get Pitts sliding
into the sixth.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
It's really really tough. So I would say no, generally,
there's just too much talent on the board. That said,
I literally drafted Waller and Pitts in a draft this
week because I got Pits at six eleven when.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
He's not counting the top one of the top six.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Oh, okay, where you're.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Getting this, Pits is one of the top six guys.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
He isn't he the sixth? ADP?

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Well, I'm talking like reality here now, Okay, Brian's fantasy
were No, No.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
He's my tight end six, and I'm pretty sure he's
sixth and tight end ADP all right, if.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
You can play that if you want. Okay, Kittle is
out of your top six. No, no, okay, yes, Goddard
is out of top six in eighty telling four. No, No,
I agree. I like Goddard, so the is just outside.
The answer for you is no, do not draft two
of the top six tight ends?

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Or yes, it's it's no. There's a little too much
value there, all right, right? I love the move.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Should you draft to two of the six proven tight ends,
creating further scarcity at the most short suited position.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
I'm gonna say no to if you draft Travis Kelcey,
the clear cut tight end one. Supposedly you've Alreay sunk.
That's the first round pick basically, so you can't go
another tight end in my mind. But if if you
don't have Kelsey and you're gonna go with a Mark Andrews, A,
George Kittle, TJ Hawks, and Darren Waller. Those are all
guys who were in the top eight among tight ends
in points per game last year roughly around seven and

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half ppr. But if you go down to tight end
eighteen nineteen twenty, it's only only a one and a
half point difference. So I'm gonna say no, you don't
need to draft what two of the top six.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
You tell me tight end eighteen is giving me one
fewer point than tight end four.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Greg Dolcich was at five point three. TJ. Howkin is
in seven point five. Okay, that's like two points.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Hackinson is only seven Fantasy points per game.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
And half point PPR not not PPR al right, full PPR.
Ravis Kelsey twelve for reference in half point PPR t.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Most people do not have two flex positions. You know
we're doing guiote because it's an eighteen team league. Most
people don't if you got two flex positions. I'm really
in on this, this tight end really strategy because I
gain you know, I'm not losing my one and only
flex position. The reason I'm I don't draft two of
the six tight ends and I always draft one of
the six proven tight ends is because I'm putting myself

(52:48):
in a position, right, I lose flexibility by putting I
gotta now start my tight end in my flex spot,
and I may very well have a different player that's
scoring more Fantasy points then my tight my second tight
end is So I'm on the no side of this.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
You draft that high, he's a starter, you're drafting the starter.
If you can't start, that's.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Right, round five to go get my second tight end.
That's a starter. I can't. I can't do it unless
you've got some I'm.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Just mostly fine with taking shots at Kincaid's and Lamportas
and guys like that later. I'm fine with it as
a second trying Yeah for the second.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Yeah, you mispronounced Gerald Everett.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Tough question number three.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
With Jonathan Taylor's situation unraveling this last week, a lot
of fantasy owners are dunking on those who draft before
Labor Day? Are they right?

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Brian Well, as someone who started drafting in February.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Before pre Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
They are not right because I laugh at the notion of, oh,
my whole team is healthy going into Week one, nothing
bad is going to happen to.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
My ten Christian McCaffrey gets injured week one.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Well, let's go through some historic injuries in either week
one or Week two of very significant relevant fantasy players.
Starting in twenty twenty. Courtland Sutton, coming off a Pro
Bowl season in twenty nineteen, injured week one, missed the
rest of the season. Same year twenty twenty, Saquon Barkley
injured week two, missed the rest of the season. David
Johnson in twenty seventeen number one overall pick. Yeah, yep, injured.

(54:19):
Like so the second drive of week one missed the
rest of the season. Alan Robinson pro bowler at the
time in twenty seventeen injured Week one, missed the rest
of the season. Going further back, Jamal Charles in twenty eleven,
first round pick, injured Week two, missed the rest of
the season. Tom Brady in two thousand and eight, coming
off he was that was like the one year to

(54:39):
one quarterback leagues when a quarterback was getting drafted in
the first round. Here Tom Brady coming off the twenty
seven season right injured Week one missed the rest of
the season. And you can make the case if someone
gets injured in early August, they're essentially safe to start
the season healthy because they're not going to suffer a
major injury. So, no, it doesn't matter when you d

(55:00):
draft whenever you want. You're not safe if you draft
after Labor Day because something bad, unfortunately, is gonna happen
to players in week one, Week two, week three, So
there really is no difference in my mind.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
I believe Michael Vick was a Week two as well.
That was another one back.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, all right, brih Scott with Jonathan Taylor's situation and
raveling last week. A lot of fantasy owners are dunking
on those who draft before Labor Day? Are they right?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
So no, the answer is no. I'll start there. The
answer is very clearly no.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
The thing that the thing about this for me is
that I believe that you should draft when your owners
can get together. You should, and you shouldn't league shame
like ten man leagues, twelve man leagues, twelve person leagues,
ten person leagues, whatever, whatever settings you like, don't league shame,
don't shame when they draft. Everybody gets to enjoy fantasy
the way they want to enjoy fantasy. That's where I

(55:51):
start out. But as far as the dunking on people
who draft before Labor Day, Brian mentioned all the early
season injuries. I've made these tweets before I saw tweets yesterday,
like this is why you don't draft before Christmas because anything.
This is why you don't draft before the trade deadline
because someone can get trade. My weird thing about this
is also the ironic notion of when you see people dunking,

(56:12):
they'll say it's you're stupid if you do, or you're
an idiot. The smartest fantasy players in the world, the
ones who make thousands upon tens of hundreds of millions
playing fantasy draft before then. The reason is like a
lot of those sharp, super smart fantasy minds can analyze
these trends and forecast these things, and project these things

(56:33):
and model it out into their range of outcomes and
gain edges. They're actually the smartest fantasy players actually draft
before Labor Day. Susie from accounting or whatever you said
the other day, she's the one drafting after Labor Day.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Susan's it was running at home depot as you may recall.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Yeah, No, the smartest fantasy players actually draft before labor
Day and after labor Day. But really, for me, it's
mostly just draft. When you want a draft, or when
you can get your people together, it doesn't matter. It's fun.
Things like injuries and suspensions and weird things can happen whenever.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Of course, the correct answer is draft when you want
to draft. There's nothing more important, especially for in person
fantasy drafts, to your friends. Just get together when you
can get out everybody's schedules to align. Who cares when
it is, there's nothing more important than meeting in the
driveway or the backyard, the barbecue, the bourbon, the smack talk,
handing off your traveling trophy, you know, like going from

(57:31):
last year's winter to this year's winner, noticing all the
receiding airlines without mentioning anything because you've got the save
receding airline. All of that is awesome. And those finger
wagging narcissists who say that you know you're doing it
wrong if you're not drafting after the last preseason game,
they can pounce sand pounding. I don't care, and I'm
going to expand on what you said, Scott. Early drafting

(57:53):
helps the kind of people who listen to this show
because you're head of the curve at this stage the
preseason where we are now, even the casuals know kind
of everything all the you know, all the cheat sheets
are updated. You know, everybody's up to speed now. But
if you're draft the earlier draft, the earlier you draft,
the bigger advantage you have serious fantasy football player to

(58:16):
end up with a better outcome. Don't be so scared
that your guy might suffer a hamstring injury. Odds are
it won't happen to you. And that's just part of
the variation of the game. You can't fight it all
the time. You have a better advantage if you're a
smarter player by drafting earlier. Yep, Brian said much of
the same thing drafting back in February.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Well, in most cases too, you're playing in a league
or a bigger contest where everyone is subject to the
same risk too. It's not just like so, yeah, it's preposterous,
but yeah, like we've been banging the drum for John
Dodson since March. Yeah, his ADP has gone up about
five rounds.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Real as it really has.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Knock on wood, nothing happens at Johan Dodson in Week.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
One, but it's still mad again, Bucking sniped in my
home league.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Next segment, We've spent four shows, four preseason shows, talking
about all the things we think are gonna happen. This
is the one segment where we talk about.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
What if I'm wrong?

Speaker 1 (59:13):
What if you know some of our key assumptions aren't
quite right. Stay tuned for a lot of this. I
was maybe maybe we're not wrong yet, but we could be.
When we return Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly.

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Final week of most drafts. You can continue to draft
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That's all you'll have. Instead of having eighteen team league,
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(01:00:17):
exactly right? What if I'm wrong? So you know we've
you get a lot of big takes on this show.
They're not all right. In fact, me in particular wrong
a lot. We'll talk about the other side of the
coin on some of our strongest takes from the preseason.
Because we're not perfect, Scott, Let's begin with you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Yeah, let's start over with Johan Dotson and Sam Howell.
I'm gonna pair them together because I'm all in on
the Washington offense this year for Fantasy at least, I
love these two. I've had Dotson ranked ten to twelve
spots higher than most places. It seems like that's come around.
I love his route running, I love his connection with
Howell in the preseason and the end of last year

(01:00:57):
Week seventeen. But what if I'm wrong. It's very possible
that offense just doesn't go. This was the twenty fourth
ranked offense from a year ago. They have a bottom
five offensive line. They have the ninth hardest strength of schedule.
Their win total by Vegas is six and a half.
They don't expect them to lowest. Yeah, if you look

(01:01:18):
at that schedule, they don't seemingly have a lot of
shootout type games either. They have more slog fests. They
do have like a Bills game in an Eagles game
and what but those are good defense. They do get
the Cardinals in Week one, so maybe they prefer Week one.
But McLaurin his injury, his lingering toe injury. That that
you're like, oh, the hot Johan Dotson's could get more opportunity.

(01:01:39):
What if it just sinks the offense more. Yeah, and
they don't have as many opportunities. I could make counterpoints,
as I'm sure you could charge, because we both kind
of love them, but we could be wrong on that
Washington offense and Dotson and Howell.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
That is that is possible. And by saying we you
know it's me and you are on this first.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Yeah, that's why I brought it up. I wanted to
bring you down with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Thank you for that. I appreciate it all right, Brian,
what if you're wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
About Oh you left me hanging there? Okay, take with
it there last segment I said, I've been drafting since February.
I'm a best ball degenerate. I've literally drafted hundreds and
hundreds of teams. So I've viewed this as like what
players I've essentially faded for the most part across the
board at the number one guy for me has been

(01:02:23):
Breeze Hall. So what if I'm wrong about Breese Hall
and he turns out to be a top twelve running back.
Last year, before injury.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
He was great.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
He could have been an RB one at the end
of the year, but he blew out his knee in
late October, so he will be less than a year
removed from that injury. Going into Week one, I thought
he might start the season on the pup list, but
he should be playing. But the Jets signed Dalvin Cook.
They drafted Isiabana Konda, not in the first or second round,
but he's a promising looking rookie. Michael Carter still still

(01:02:53):
in town, so very crowded running back room. The Jets
essentially are all in right now by signing Aaron Rodgers
and trying to win the Super Bowl. So I could
be wrong. I don't think Breese Hall is gonna get
the touches to be a top twelve running back. But
if for some reason he makes this miraculous full recovery
and gets twenty twenty five touches per game, he could be.

(01:03:15):
So I'm worried I'm wrong there, but I don't think
I am, but I could be.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
I've been slandering Deshaun Watson all preseason. Yes, you know
the report, you know, all basically getting no preseason action.
The training camp reports were all super negative.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
And he still doesn't look good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Hated what I saw in the first hated the way
they used him, and what we saw last year in
Cleveland where he averaged just he had only had four
designed runs per game. You know, we're here for the running,
not the passing. On Deshaun Watson, He's an average NFL passer.
But maybe I'm wrong, you know, maybe this thing's gonna
work out differently. Maybe Deshaun Watson's going to go right
back to where he was in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

(01:03:51):
twenty twenty. Maybe that's possible. I don't think so, but
not impossible. I suppose he's got Amari Cooper, he's good.
Maybe Elijah Moore is gonna be a big spot that
offense in that passing game. Maybe maybe there's more upside
to him. Maybe the Drafters have it right. He's gonna
have to board his quarterback nine. I have him ranked
a quarterback twenty one. So you know, maybe I'm the

(01:04:12):
one that's wrong in Deshaan Watson and he's gonna just
revert right back to form like the Drafters think, Scott,
who's your next? What if I'm wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Player?

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Mine has to be a guy who I believe I
have in every single league, and I don't know if
this is a good or bad thing. I have him everywhere.
I reach a round or two for him just to
get him, because fantasy is supposed to be fun. Anthony Richardson,
The argument for me is his I feel like his
floor is safe. Qbs rush for seven hundred plus yards
are almost always top twelve quarterbacks. They basically all average

(01:04:43):
fifteen plus Fantasy points per game. If he only throws
for one hundred and twenty yards, I feel like he's
gonna get fifty or sixty or whatever on the ground
a guy like him, maybe he punches one in. But
what if I'm wrong? What if his passing is in
the low fifty percent completion rate so bad? What if
we are looking at some early career Justin Fields type's number.

(01:05:04):
What if they can't get that offense going the opposite
of the rising tide raises all boats with Taylor gone.
What if they can't move down the field and those
scoring opportunities aren't there. What if it's early Justin Fields.
What if I'm completely wrong on his floor and it's
a low passing and the rushing just isn't there and
they can't score.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
It's possible. I mean Justin Fields was not fantasy startable
no for a long time, like I don't know, twenty
games of his career. Yep, So yeah, that is a possibility. Okay, Brian,
I'm gonna try it again. What player might you be
wrong about?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
I'm worried I might be wrong about George Kittle, who
is being drafted his tight end five to five right now.
And I am totally out on Kittle at that price.
He certainly closed the last season he was the top
tight end over the last four games. Last year, he
scored seven touchdowns, was a league winner. But he hasn't
played a full season since twenty eighteen. Just and he's

(01:06:04):
had these big spike weeks, but his nonspike weeks are
absolutely killer. He's not the most consistent player. It's either
it's all or nothing with Kittle, and he's always He's
just such a good all around football player, blocker, stuff
like that, that he gets these injuries that other tight
ends don't. So I could be wrong about George Kittle.
I've been out on him though as a tight end five.

(01:06:25):
I'm avoiding him at that price tag. So a player
I could be wrong about, But again I hope I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I just looked up justin fields first fourteen games he
threw I believe that is eight touchdowns is in the
first fourteen games? That is you know your runhing's gotta
be good.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
I mean for the Colts, what is like that the
Colts after cuts have three wide receivers on roster. What
if Michael Pittman gets hurt and they don't have Jonathan Taylor,
that offense might be sun cool.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Well, it's not fair. You can't count week one because
that was like the Monsoon game.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I remember, I was not that was not in that
that was that was Yeah, this goes back a little
further than but you're right, we're and I'm like, kind
of well, no, that isn't that he threw two in
that game? Actually that gave him to him. That makes
no sense out of that game. Yes, it doesn't make
any sense. The Monsoon game. That was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
That a great defense in a Monsoon Soon.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
He threw two when he ran one because remember him
sliding into the end.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Yeah, they won that game too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
He did win that game as massive underdogs in that game,
that felt like such a sure thing for the Niners.
That's why football is great.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
You know what else is great? The Vikings offense potentially phenomenal. Right,
if Jordan Addison is a big step up over where
Adam Feelen was at that stage of his career.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
I don't know. I don't know if you've heard this.
I heard a rumor he's like a second justin Jefferson.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I heard that on this show. There was a show
I was listening to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Yeah, the coach I heard about that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Yeah, what if Alexander Madison rises to the occasion and
plays the best football of his career as the Vikings
workhorse running.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Back Peyton hillis here, maybe it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
I feel like the guy I've seen is just just
a guy. He's just averag enifl running.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I feel like he's been volume dependent, he.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Very volume dependent, and he's been also Lions dependent, where
he's rushing stats against Detroit throughout his career. Maybe he's
just been lurking waiting to be a bellcow back and
it's all gonna come together. I haven't. I have not
ranked him that way. I don't have him for really
any of my fantasy teams because I think I think
there's gonna be some ty Chandler mixed.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
In there a lot more than people think.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yeah, but maybe he does. Uh do you have any left, Scott?

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
I have one left? Okay, I have one left. I
feel like this guy this I flipped it. The other
two were people who I've been in on, and maybe
I'm wrong. This is one who I have not drafted anywhere.
I've been completely out on. I think he's Alexander Madison ish.
I completely fade him. Nagee Harris, Okay, I've just never

(01:08:56):
been I'm not in on him. I feel like Jalen
Warren looks like a bet back. We talked about Jalen
Warren so much last year. I really like the way
he looks on the field. I still want him to happen,
maybe kind of like Fetch from Make Fetch Happen. But
Harris seems so pedestrian. He rarely has long runs, He's
not explosive. He has trouble gaining into the four yards

(01:09:17):
per carry range, didn't do it in his first two seasons.
It all seems on volume. But what if I'm wrong?
What if that three hundred plus touch volume with forty
to seventy catches stays. What if Tomlin is like I
like Bell cow backs and that's what I do, and
we're gonna stick it with you. Nause hairis. The offense
definitely seems much better in preseason and pick it appears

(01:09:40):
to have made the leap. What if there's more opportunities.
But if there's more opportunities for touches, catches, and touchdowns,
of which he had ten each of the first two
years of his career.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Steelers put a first round pick into their offensive line.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Absolutely yeah, what if there's just more possible, more high
efficiency opportunities for Najie Harris this year and he gets
all those touches again. What if I'm wrong? What if
it's just the third year of what he's done for
two years in a better offense?

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
All right, Brian, what are you laying awake nights worried
you got wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
Well, I'm not worried about this. I know Thor would
be worried about this. If we are, we would both
be very worried if we were wrong about Evan Hole,
especially over the last two weeks. Rookie running back for
the Colts of course, Yeah, vaulting up ADP. Yeah, the
writing was on the wall, has been on the wall
for a while that Jonathan Taylor was not going to
be a Colt. He still is a Colt. Put as
we talked about earlier, he's on the pup list. They'll

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miss the first four games. But what if it's Deon
Jackson who is the guy or charge? What if it's
Zack Moss who is the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Running back and to roster jack Mos goes berserk.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
Now, I know that keeps me up at night, But
I've been smashing the draft button on Evan Hole over
the last few weeks. When Dion Jackson is there. Zack
Moss has certainly been there. But I'm just essentially all
in on Evan Hull at this point. But his past
catching upside is just so intriguing and he is built
for short yardage situations. But it could be the Deon

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Jackson show. But he seemed to fizzle out last year.
But we shall see. I could be wrong about Evan
Hall and Thorne could be wrong to him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
My worries is going to take time for him to
get on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
I do like Evan Hall too, but like Beijeon, he's
third on their depth chart. First on their depth chart,
Zach Moss.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Zack Moss. I know nobody's drafted Zach Moss at all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
As Brian mentioned, I'm just letting you know he is
first on the depth chart.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
What if I'm wrong about Packers quarterback Jordan Love, and
I mean that in the opposite way. What if he's
totally non functional. What if it's a disaster. What if
Brian general manager Brian Gudukunz is only in this position
because he's got to defend that first round pick from
a couple of years ago. What if what if Aaron

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Rodgers was the glue keeping this entire offense together, and
the entire Packers offense just dissolve around him. We know
that he's got some arm talent, we know he's got
some mobility. But what if Jordan Love is a cannot
be a decision maker? What if he what if he
withers under pressure? What if the bad accuracy stays as

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bad as it's always looked in every opportunity we've seen him.
There's a chance Jordan Love is completely non functional and
this Packers offense just goes belly up? Then what.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Then we're all drafting Packers too high. I'm actually not
really drafting too many Packers that they're values.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
But it could be. It could happen that way, Christian Watson,
might you know, might end up being fools gold for
all we know. You know, we don't know for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
I'm bloated on Packers, so you better be wrong there,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Yeah, we don't wish bad things on anybody, not even
a team that's enjoyed thirty years of Hall of Fame quarterbacking.
Not that I'm fitter about it as a Minnesota Viking fan.
Final segment coming up, A Fantasy football weekly gonna break
down the Thursday Night game FFW style with letter grades
on every meaningful player, and reveal our final sleepers of

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the year. Stay tuned Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back Fantasy

(01:13:43):
Football Weekly. Paul Georgie and Scott Fish. Brian Johnson with
you next time we talk. There's gonna be an NFL
regular season game in the books.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
Unbelievable, So very thankful for that. It's been a long
long The offseasons get longer every year.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
It seems like we are ready to go and it's
a game.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Two enjoyable offenses.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Normally we don't like interrupt each other's matchups very much,
but because we only got one to do in the show,
and we got a whole segment to do what, I
encourage you to jump in whenever you want. Detroit taking
on Kansas City on Thursday. This is the team that
allowed the most Fantasy points to opposing passers against the
team that allowed the second most points to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Opposing pass A point orgy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
It was a bit of a point orgy. Now there
are some differences here. Kansas City's past defense got a
lot better at the end of the season and into
the playoffs, in no small part because Treent mcduffey got
a lot better as the season went on. And also
Detroit has completely revamped their secondary, and so there's that
as well. So let's talk it through. I'm gonna start
the Lion side. Jared goff sizzling. At the end of

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last year final seven games. He was averaging two hundred
and eighty five yards and two touchdowns per game. That
is a positive. I like the upgrades and Sam Laporta
and Jamier Gibbs, but do you guys think those guys
are gonna pay dividends right here? Week one, Sam Laporta,
Jamier Gibbs minimally mm hmm. That's kind of my feeling too.

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In last year's seventeen regular season games, only one starting
quarterback failed to score multiple touchdowns against the Chiefs, although
some of those were rushing in there as well. And
Kansas City gave gave up exactly one passing touchdown per
game in their final six games all the way to
the Super Bowl. So, as I mentioned, they got a
lot better at the end of the year and end
of the playoffs. Kansas City returns the exact same secondary

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pending Lagerius sneeds help help their cornerback he may not
play in this game. And now at this point it
looks like Chris Jones is definitely not gonna play in
the game. If he's signed a contract right this minute,
I don't know how available you'd be. So those are
some reasons for optimism on Jared Goff, and I'm giving
him a B grade in this game along with the
B grade and one of my favorite players in this
draft cycle, and that's i'man ross Aint Brown. One hundred

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and forty targets last year as Jared Goff's favorite receiver
by a mile, got tacked, as Brian noted earlier in
the show Inside the three yard Line a bunch of
times as well, or his numbers overall would have been
even better. He ran from the slot on sixty percent
of his routes last year, and normally that would put
him up against lagerious need, but he's got the knee problem.
I think they're gonna move cornerback Trent McDuffie to just

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basically cover him, shadow him. I'm on Ross Saint Brown
in this whole game, and McGuffey. McDuffie was very good
as a rookie and got better. It will likely get
better this year McGuff McDuffie's games as a slot starter.
I went and logged those. He averaged forty seven receiving
yards allowed and point three touchdowns per game. That's you know,

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that's that's pretty good. And I'm on Ross Saint Brown's
gonna do better than that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Yeah, I was gonna say, Amanra is probably better than
any of the slot receivers that guy faced.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Very possible, so I still would be great, And I'm
on Rossaint Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
Wait, are the Chiefs one of the sixteen teams that
drafted a wide receiver. I'll get a check on that
real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
I'll get back to are the Lions? Yeah the chief Yeah,
you're exactly right. Absolutely, Let's go to David Montgomery. It's
not sexy, but I expect him to get more touches
than Jamier Gibbs does in Week one. I'm a little
worried that the Chiefs only allowed two rushing touchdowns in
their last ten games of last year, including the playoffs.

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Now again, if defensive tackle Chris Jones doesn't play, I
gotta like the inside running game better for the Lions.
So we'll go b Grade and Montgomery. If Chris Jones
does not play, and a C grade if he does.
Jones known for his pass rush as an interior pass rusher,
but he was also Pro Football Focus is seventh best

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run stuffing defensive tackle last year. I mean, Chris Jones
is awesome at everything. So again, B grade without Joones.
C grade for David Montgomery if Jones plays, all right,
how about Jamier Gibbs. You drafted him in like the
third round. You want to start him right here. Chiefs
allowed the most running back receptions and the fourth most
running back receiving yards last year, so I like that.

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I don't think he scores in this game, but I
think he cobbles together. What do you think, like five
receipts five receptions for Jamier Gibbs, maybe forty receiving yards,
Maybe forty rushing yards for Jamior Gibbs. So maybe he
gets around you like ninety yards. I don't think he scores.
That gives you, you know, somewhere in the neighborhood of

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about fourteen PPR points, So we'll go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Low inflex Well, I mean that's actually not bad. Fourteen. Yeah,
we like that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
That would be a B grade. I'll give him a
secret in this one because I'm a little bit worried
about his first NFL game. I got Sam Laporta on
the bench. I think he likely starts here. But we
always worry about production from Ricky tight ends, and the
Chiefs are very good against tight ends last year. Get this,
including their playoff run. Only three tight ends topped forty
eight yards against the Chiefs all of last year. That

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was whatever nineteen games and only one top forty eight
yards in the final fourteen games of last year. Sam
Laporte is on the bench.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
I'm sorry to report that the Chiefs are not one
of these sixteen teams that drafted a wide receiver before
a'man Rossaint Brown the most recent receiver drafted before him
with pick one oh nine. A'mnra went pick one to
twelve Dez Fitzpatrick to the Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Titan A disasters. DESI that one.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
Now, out of these sixteen receivers drafted before Sun God,
you can justify two, maybe three Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle,
maybe DeVonta Smith. Those are the top three wide receivers
drafted that year. But then it was uh it was
but Darius Tony was drafted as the fourth wide receiver
about the Giants. So that's like somewhat of a spike game.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
He wanted.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
You want to show up Tony, Yeah, if he plays,
I'm sure you're going to get to that in a second.
Are going to get to that in a second.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
We should imagine for people who don't know, I'm on
Rossaint Brown has memorized every team and player at his
position that was drafted before him, and he's got a
grudge against those teams and players.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
And literally memorized. He's rattled him off off the top
of his head in order before.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Let's go to the camp. Oh, by the way, Marvin
Jones is I looked by the way he played with
jacksonvill last year he played against Kansas City. One catch,
Barbon Jones, We're not going to go there. Josh Reynolds
were also not going to go there, pending. We just
were gonna find We're gonna find better matchups than this
one Kansas City. Obviously, Mahomes and Kelsey are automatic A
grades virtually every week and they are here too. Fantastic

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positive matchup overall for both of them. Let's stick with
the passing game. Sky Moore, I feel like this is
the one receiver that I'm willing to roll the dice
on into one.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
I came drafting.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Yeah, barely on the field last year, but did manage
a touchdown on his only catch in the Super Bowl,
So one catch, one touchdown. Most people, including Scott and
I for sure, think that the sophomore evolution is going
to hit for Sky Moore. I think he's going to
take over most of Juju Smith Schuster's routes and he's
just more explosive and he's a better downfield receiver than

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Juju Smith Schuster was. So I'm really intrigued here. Now,
the Lions did a massive makeover of their secondary. They
brought in three new starting quarterbacks cornerbacks Cameron Sutton, Emmanuel Moseley,
Chauncey Gardner Johnson. They're all solid, but there was a
reason they were available. They're not great corners, but they're
better than what the Lions have been trotting out for
the last I don't know decade at cornerback. So an

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upgrade here. I wanted to give skymore B grade. I
can't quite get myself to do it. I'm gonna go
se grade because there's still a lot of unknowns that
he was so lightly used last year.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
If only there was something in between those two.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
And sadly there's not. And how about no letter that
appears between B and C?

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
What if I do remind you that Skymore wears my
number twenty four?

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
Oh? Does that help?

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Like scooperfish twenty four?

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Yeah? Does that push him up?

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
That does? Kadarius Tony coming off a knee injury. I'd
only consider him if he's completely off the injury report
and you decide that you want to take a flyer.
I do like the matchup against that secondary. But the
Tony thing is so fluky, and they use him in
such weird gadgety ways that I don't know that you
can get consistent production. I feel like Cadarius Tony just

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the dart throw and that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
What if he had a toe injury and a knee injury,
that would make perfect sense.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
For carry's toe knee? I like where you're going with that. Wow,
Isaiah Pachecko quietly. The Lions allowed the second fewest running
back fantasy points last year. Really yeah, but they gave
up four point eight yards per carry. But they just
didn't give up touchdowns. They gave up the fifth oh
and the fifth most rushing touchdowns. You know what they
didn't give up. It was receptions to run backs. That's

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where the Lions were shockingly competent. But for Pacheco doesn't
matter because he doesn't catch much anyway. I think this
is a B grade on a guy that's going to
get virtually all the carries. He's not going to get
the receptions. We already knew that going in. Lions gave
up the fewest running back receptions and the fewest running
back receiving yards. So there you go, Isaiah Pachecko B
grade and which should be a solid rushing game and

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he's not gonna help you out for PPR. But you
knew that. That's okay? What do you think? And by
the way, that puts Jerick McKinnon in bench territory because
the Lions were so good at that particular element. I
think we're gonna find somebody else jack McKinnon on the
bench in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Interesting red hot down the stretch last year. Of course,
you've just drafted your team. You're probably not putting your
sixteenth round pick into the starting lineup.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Anyway, Probably not, probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
All right, let's unveil some of our sleepers what about
Travis Kelcey didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Hey automatically, Gary, but I have to expand on Mahomes
or Kelsey. You just start these guys every week.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
Okay, I know I was. I was gonna bench Mahomes
for Anthony Richardson just to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
You might actually the way you're talking about Richardson now, love,
I would. All right, let's get to our final Sleepers
of the year. Finally stops of the year. Scott, you
want to start.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
I am going to go back to a little bit.
You know a guy I talked about a bunch of
times last year. I still really like him, and it
kind of goes to the what if I'm wrong segment
because I think I'm right on this one. I'm going
to Jalen Warren, running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers, who,
once again I feel like I'm just trying to make
him happen. But he's going in the thirteenth round. He's

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the clear backup for an offense on the rise. I
don't like the guy in front of him. Jalen Warren
has looked good in preseason. He's averaged and last year,
compared to Naji Harris, he averaged over a yard per
carry more than Naji Harris. He averaged over two yards
per a reception more than Naji Harris. He had more
explosive plays I believe last year than Naji not just

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did last year, but in the last two years. And
he just looks like a better running back, looks more explosive.
This season, he split first team snaps in the five
Pittsburgh Steelers drives fifty seven percent to Nase forty three
percent to Jalen Warren. If that split even comes close

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to holding, he's going to be a steal in the
thirteenth round. And if anything happens to Naji Harris wheels up.
I saw someone compare this to Elliott and Pollard last
year that that could be what is I will take
the Pollard Jalen Warren size.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Yeah, especially thirteen rounds later.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
That's what I'm taking that, yep. Jalen Warren.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
All right, Brian, give us your final sleeper of the preseason.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
I'm going super deep with a tight end sleeper. It's
Miami's Durham smythe Wow Smite is deep smithe Tyson.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
For those drafting in your twenty team leagues this week,
I'm just kidding I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Smythe could turn out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Just did a twenty draft last night. Durham Smite did
not get drafted.

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
Well he should have, because really everyone is excited about
this Dolphins offense, presuming Tua stays healthy. They were top
seven in pass play percentage last year. But the only
pass catcher is getting drafted are Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle.
There's no wide receiver three getting drafted. No one's drafting
Durham Smythe, but why not. Smith has never been the
guy tight end. It's always been Mike A. Sicki wasn't

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Adam Troutman. It doesn't even matter that their other tight
end he's out of town. So Smythe is clearly the guy.
When given a chance, he's been productive, averaging nine plus
yards per catch. Overall, Miami's tight ends did not post
impressive numbers last year, but again, two only played in
roughly eleven games. There was turmoil at the quarterback position,

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and also last season, Mi Kasicki had more targets inside
the twenty than Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. Kasiki had
fifteen targets inside the twenty. Hill had nine, Waddle had
eight so Miami went to the tight end in the
red zone, and again Smith is the only guy essentially
at tight end for the Dolphins, an offense that everyone

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is excited about, but they're only drafting outside of the
running backs Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. I think we
might be overlooking a diamond in the rough in smythe Tyson.
I just like saying, smithe Tyson.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Oh, it's time for Sam Howell.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
Is that Sam Howley's music.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
We've talked about him every show, but I have I
need to formally anoint him as one of my sleepers.
You guys have already heard the rationale. He's the perfect
kind of guy that you want to throw a fourteenth
round pick on, which is where he's going right now.
He's got the mobility, he's got the big arm. If
at all clicks together for Sam Howell, the upside is ridiculous.

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We love the budding connection with Jehan Dotson, burgeoning connects
with j Han Dotson. Downfield, Howell's gonna run, you know,
like thirty forty fifty yards a game. He's gonna connect
on some of those deep passes. I love him here
also just gonna empty my notebook. Why not, it's our
last show. Taj Spears top ten running back if anything
happens to Derrick Henry and maybe even he might even

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be better than Derrick Henry this year. How about a
little Gabe Davis who was going in the fourth round
last year going in the eighth round this year. Sean
Tucker in the one two punch for the Hey.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
I used Tucker last year?

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
We did you?

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
And what about Isaiah Hodgins Love Isaiah Hiyah Hodgins another
one of my favorite late round sleepers, giants outside receiver.
All those guys some of my favorite late round drafters.
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