July 4, 2025 • 34 mins
It's Independence Day, and we declare the Scott Fish Bowl to be incredibly fun...and it's not too late for you to participate. Charch and Scott talk through this year's unique scoring system and roster building. And some stuff at the end of the show about 56 amazing men.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and
whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now,
here's your host, Paul Jarchian.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Happy fourth of July, everybody, Paul Jarchian here. My co
host for Independence Day is Scott Fish.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hey, buddy, Hey, hey.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
If I'm gonna show up, it's gonna be for this one.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, it's been a while.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I mean you you are a co host on this show,
and we have had far too much independence from Scott Fish.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Yeah, it's it's it's been a busy, busy summer. But
I am. I'm back for this show and I'm sure
I'll be back in a few weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I hope so too. I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I know that's sort of the plan right now to
get you back into the rotation.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
But you've been busy, I mean, you know, legitimate busy.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So there's that running this little thing, uh that's uh
turned into a absolute juggernaut, the Scott Fish Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We are on iteration number fifteen.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Scott, Yes, fifteen years fifteen years. Yes, that's an insane
amount of.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Time, isn't it. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You never could have guessed in your one what this
thing would turn into.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
No, no, I I completely figured that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, right, everybody saw it coming.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
No, nobody's not coming nobody.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
No, it's uh. We talked about it last week.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You were on the show, Kent and I talked about
the Vegas draft and how awesome that is and how
I'm never going back even if I even if Vegas
stops being the closest venue, I'm still going to Vegas
every year.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
That's always going back.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I'm always going back to Vegas. Now, that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's it's the to me, it's the high water mark
for all the live events that you do around scott
Fish Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But we're really where are we in the in the
in the the general. I guess the schedule of scott
Fishbowl drafts. Where are we right now?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I know it's a giant schedule.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Now right the day it was like a week, got.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
On a certain Monday and everybody's done within ten days.
That's what it used to be. Now we start, we
have a full month of SFB live events from June
twenty first through July twentieth, it's legitimately a month of
live events and right smack dab in the middle. This
upcoming to Monday the seventh is when the slow drafts
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start the Potathon, which is a twenty four hour like
old school telethon. It's a potathon, though it's live streamed
on our YouTube that starts Sunday at noon. It's every
half an hour. We have different guests from around the industry,
different analysts jumping on to talk SFB or fantasy cares
or what they have going on. It's becoming a very
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very big undertaking all of the things we got going
on for s FB.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Now I had the disadvantage of basically having to drive
oft first out of everybody.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And you know things have changed since that draft. You
know we, you know we at the time, we're all
trying to get our arms around this new scoring system.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
There was no guidance to go.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
By, which honestly I kind of liked because then you
didn't have to worry so much about like am I
doing quote the right thing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You could just blaze your trail. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I feel like now already two weeks later there's a
right and wrong path.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
No, there there may be, and stuff happens. I mean
the year that Le'Veon Bell got hurt, he got hurt
during the drafts and then people were picking up James
Connor and yeah, and this year multiple tight ends have
transferred teams in unretired rights going on.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, speaking which might beloved John new Smith.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Conceptly, Okay, first fear the Dolphins. Here you are you,
you unlock the amazing athleticism of John new Smith. You're
the first team that really gets what he can bring
to the table, and don't have him paired with some
other guy like Kyle Pitts or Hunter Henry.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And he has this huge breakout season.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
He's his own man out there.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yes, so what do you do?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You trade him to the freaking Steelers where now he's
back to being part of a one two punch with
Pat Fryermouth and we'll become basically undraftable. I'm just I'm
so bummed out about this.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Without Pickens, Can they just just throw them out there
where Pickens was?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
They should that's right, let them line up outside. I say,
go for it. Oh, I'm really really bummed out about that.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
That's all right.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I'm sorry, Scott. We'll talk.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
We'll talk a bunch of Scott Fishbowl stuff, but I
want to mention at the end of the show, it's
going to be a bonus mini episode about the Declaration
of Independence and what a badass move it was, Okay
in seventeen seventy seven, insanely bold and the bravery of
(05:00):
the signers unbelievable, and nobody talks to you. Nobody mentions
what it took to do it and the price that
people paid for the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
We'll talk a little bit about that at.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
These I know we rarely go off sports, but I
always feel like people don't appreciate that enough. So I'm
gonna take the opportunity for the two people that will
listen to the end of this podcast when we're done
talking about fantasy football. I like it all right, And
you don't have to stay for that, by the way,
you can just be like, you know, we'll come out.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, How timing works out here?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yes, And I know you do have you have other
you have other time commitments.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Uh, let's talk. I want to let's talk about the
average draft position of players. What's unique about the Scott
Fish Bowl scoring system. Well, let me, I'll let you
tell people. I don't have to tell people.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You can.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Why don't you tell people what makes the scott Fish
Bowl scoring system so different this year?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, this year it's really volume as king and that
that's that's the easiest way to put it. A lot
of the stuff is pretty standard. Your your quarterback passing
and your quarterback and you're running back and receiving yards
are all very very normal. You know that one per
ten one per twenty five touchdowns are all six. That's
that's pretty normal. There's a lot of normal stuff there.
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But when you get to the scoring where volume becomes
king is on MFL. If you're playing on there, you
get a point per target and a point per reception.
So that's that's potentially two points for a catch because
you're getting the target too, and and target monsters who
don't catch the ball a lot, like Calvin regularly or
Jameson Williams or something, yeah, or Kyle Pitts get all
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those target points. But but and if you're playing on sleeper,
you get two and a half points per reception just
to try to Yeah, yep, And then we have some
IDP scoring for we don't have any ID PLEA players.
We just have Travis Hunter and maybe Bo Melton and
a few others that play ID play the IDP side.
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So we got some scoring because I want them to
get whatever they get when they're playing on the field.
And I think one of the bigger changes is the
starting lineup is it's ultraflex this year. It's eleven starters,
no positional requirements. If you want to start eleven running backs,
you can start eleven running backs.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So in my draft, and again we were we were
part of the first draft. There were three simultaneous drafts
that started this whole, this whole process, and ours was.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
One of them. We had somebody who went.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Wide receiver for the first five picks, and in my
same draft somebody went running back with the first seven
seven picks. Scott, those are totally valid approaches.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
They are sure, why not?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And where else are you gonna do it?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah? Yeah, we didn't win the scoring. Between the positions,
they're somewhat balanced. And you don't have positional requirements. You're
not like, oh I need to you know, I need
to start two running backs, so I better get one soon.
You just don't care anymore. You're just taking best available
and or the players you just really like.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Do you have a sense of how quarterbacks are going
to play into this scoring system?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Very well?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Yet I think people will still mostly start too just
because the safety of there's no negatives in this scoring yep.
So I think just the safety of a low of
a high floor will we'll keep them within those eleven starters.
But I will say there's really only you know, four
or five quarterbacks in the top twenty five last year
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in this format. They're they're kind of nerved a little
bit because there's so much reward for Carrie's and receptions
that it moves everybody else up. But I still think
that the floor is there for them, and you know,
you're just not going to draft them as high because
they don't have the same ceiling as skill the other
skills positions.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I didn't take a quarterback until round seven Drake May okay,
and then I took a couple in the four or
five rounds after that, Jordan Love, who I think is
going to really outperform as adp and Gino Smith, who
I also think is Tino Smith is going after like
Anthony Richardson and Bryce Young.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, that doesn't know Sam Darnold for us anyway. So
that was my That's how I saw it.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Scott was I just want a couple of quarterbacks just
because for sure points, but I'm not putting any real
pick equity into that. Have you seen the ADP for
across all of the scott Fish bulls reflect that that
quarterbacks aren't going as high.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, that's absolutely what it is. I mean, the ADP
still has three quarterbacks going in the top twelve or
thirteen or so. As I've watched these live drafts unfold,
I went to the Chicago live event, I went to
the Vegas live event. It seems like four of them,
the four running quarterbacks who we can all just it's
in our heads. We know it's the Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen,
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Jayden Daniels, and Jalen Hurts. They are routinely top two
round picks and then there's a little bit more slide
for the rest. That seems to be the way it's going.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I had picked six in the scott Fish Bowl and
brock Bauers went pick one, and then I took Trey
McBride at pick eleven because there is an extra there's
an extra point for tight end, So I'm like, okay,
per reception. So I'm I go, all right, well, I'm
gonna take Trey McBride.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I've seen the second half of the season. They were
like dad, even I've seen tre go ahead of Brock
in some of these.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, you know, if you think the touchdowns are gonna
come around and you just want volume, Trey McBride is
your volume leader at tight end, or at least he
was last year. Sure, so yeah, the two touchdowns will
change obviously.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, yeah, I think so too. You want to know
who I'm taking at the one on one? Do you do?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You have the one on one?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I have the one on one. I always take the
one on one just to get it done and then
I can go work on other things.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Oh funny how you don't take twelve.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And I've definitely done twelve in the past because when
it when it was a corner year, you know, when
the before the three I I used to take twelve
because then I can do both picks and just get
back to work right right exactly. But I'm taking Ashton genty,
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He's going off the board as pick eight in scott
Fish Bowl drafts everywhere.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
A high of two. He's one of the top eight
or nine players that have not gone number one overall.
But I'm big on get your guys. Yeah, he's a
first rounder. So if I'm at the one on one,
I have to take him there because I'm not getting
him in the next round. And I just love Boise.
I almost went to college at Boise State. I've been
a big Boise fan for a long time.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Still wearing blue right now.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it,
all right.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So that'll be your first pick, Ashton genty pick number one.
You'll be the first person. When are you drafting?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
By the way, I'm a slow draft. I always do
a slow yeah. When I attend these live events, I'm
way too busy to draft exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Minneapolis Live event is coming soon, right.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yep, July twelfth. It'll be uh, it'll be a fun one.
We got a lot of really good donated prizes. I
got a pylon. Oh my gosh, get this. I got
a pylon signed by Chris Carter that says all I
do is Cutch catch TDS.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Shut up.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
That's awesome, man, Okay, all right, Okay, here's what I
want to do. Yeah, as you know, in Las Vegas,
my wife and I bought enough Raffle tickets that we
won four prizes. I want to exchange those four prizes.
The Neon Museum is gonna have to wait, the Bagel
Factory's gonna have to wait. I want to exchange those
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four prizes for that pylon signed by Chris Carter, who
only catches touchdowns?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Okay? Or would you rather have the John John Randall
sign helmet or the Chris Carter? All I do is
catch touchdowns sign football.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Wow, the pylon's way cooler.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Nobody's gotta sign Pilon.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
That's why we get them, because they go so well
at the live events because nobody has signed Pilon, Right,
nobody's got that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh man, I've got got some jealousy about that. Now,
Can I buy? Can I buy Raffle tickets from here
for the Minneapolis? Can I just like Venomo you and
enough to ensure I win.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
That, we'll get We'll fly to you a proxy.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I gotta get a proxy puts in my Scott fish
Bowl donations.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I love it. That's fantastic, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So you got picked, all right, so I pick number
one is going to be ashy and genty That puts
you on the board for pick twenty four. Yep, that's
exactly Travis hunter territory. He's currently going off the board
at pick twenty four. Would you take him there? Give
him the scoring.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Cysent take him if he's available, And I'm not even
sure if it's the I don't know if it's the
right value. It's just fun. Yeah, it's just fun. And
I'm not gonna win a five thousand team tournament, but
I can have fun in a five thousand team tournament.
Hell yeah, absolutely absolutely, I'll take Travis Hunter there for sure,
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because who.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Knows how this thing's gonna gonna break apart? And you
know there's a Travis Hunter has a path to be
the highest scoring player in scott fish Ball.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He does. I had someone tell me this at one
of the live events, and I can't remember who it
was or which one it was, but they said, I
don't know what if he's so good at wide receiver,
he never plays different defense and gets those points. And
I said to.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Him, said, anyway, right, yes, absolutely, same same could happen
at cornerback. Although if you get to the Dion level
of cornerbacking Scott, nobody passes at you. You get no interceptions.
Dean wouldn't tackle anyway, he got no tackles. Dean Sanders
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as arguably one of the all time great shutdown corners.
He just people just stopped throwing on his side of
the field.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yep, yeah, you know that stamps right on that quite
a few times from the revuses, even even the early
saw like not saw us right away his rookie year,
but end a rookie year into the next year, like
that's it happens.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah. Travis Hunter's high draft position again his average pick
twenty four, high draft position five.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I like that somebody took him as high as five bold.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
That is great. That is great.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Talk to me about this is the player whose ADP
is the lowest but has gone first overall.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Devon a Chan.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Oh you know how I feel. We feel. We are
generally on different pages. You feel like he he can't
be a he and I think you're right. He can't
be a work horse. I just think he can do
with the volume he gets. I think he can put
up great points. The problem is in this format he's
not a work horse. He is a ten to fifteen
touched back. You know, he's never going to be a
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work carse he needs those targets and receptions he was
getting at the end of last year. Yeah, that's what
he needs.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So do you think with John Hugone, Yeah, and I
should look up John Who's target numbers. But do you
think with John u Gone that ultimately means more less
or the same number of receptions for Devon Eh?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I mean I would think more because I think some
of those checkdowns. As as we know, Tua was a
top two checkdown artist last year. He was either first
or second in checkdowns, so he was he was consistently
trying to find a chan Or or John Whu or
you know, just running backs in general. So I could
I could see it. We'll see if that changes this year,
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but I could see him taking a share of that.
I don't think they've added anything that that that Tua
would feel safety in compared to Chan and what he's done.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I would normally in these situations, I say, if it's
bad for the offense, it hurts.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Everybody right right.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You know where the Dolphins are a little bit different
is they still have Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddles. So
I mean there's still outside threats that defenses have to
account for.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And so, by the way, one.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Hundred and eleven targets for John hu Smith last year.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Wow, one hundred eleven.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So yeah, I do think some of those alendo going
to devon a Chan And then I think the big
question mark is obviously will do to stay healthy? And
then that offensive line, which has been bad. Tron Armstead retired.
They they did add a new starting either.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Left or right tackle. I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Remember which side James Daniels is going to play. I
think left, uh, left guard, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
And he was good with Pittsburgh, reasonably good, So I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That offensive line, though, has not been great. They need
guys to start living up to their draft billing on
the offensive line for the for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Well maybe that maybe that rush makes him check down
to a Chan more.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah might well yeah, you know, because that's that's what
happened last year, So maybe it ends up happening here
in Guillotine.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I can't I a chance. Too dangerous to me.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You get, you get the injury history, which God bless
him for staying upright last year. You have the offensive
line questions and the two of question and that's just
too much risk for a guillotine league.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah my opinion.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I you mentioned the running back rushes in this I
did see someone go nine, ten, eleven running backs in
a row. And I saw mock the other day, not
the real draft, but a mock where up the twenty
two picks they took eleven tight ends. Wow, that's having.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Fun with it one. Yeah, they should.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Somebody should actually try to execute that. I like to
see what happened on this show last week. Ken said
he's not drafting any receivers.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't I at the time, I didn't really challenge
him on that, but I probably should have, just like, okay,
I can.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Again can build your team however you want in this
from mat But that is interesting as because I understand
they don't quite have the same volume ceiling as the
running backs, but there comes a point where their depth
is where their strength is because there's so many wide receivers,
and especially week to week, you know, like when you're
trying to put in a starter each week, you can
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we do this on fancy well weekly all the time
there are injuries or their defenses or whatever, where we're like,
this guy is primed for you know, a decent amount
of target share this day.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know, right right.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
When do you start fretting about the next year's scoring system,
because I'm already thinking about where? How where do you
pivot from here? With ultraflex eleven starters. Anything you do
next year, people are gonna feel all constrained by They're.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Like, ohh, I gotta start three receivers.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I've done this a bunch of times. I did this,
and I was I was removing third round reversal this
year until people started whining and they were confused. I
specifically did not include third round reversal in my in
my preliminary email, but I brought it back. But we'll
probably remove it next year. I'll do time things from
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time to time where I will have a setting for
three years and then it's gone on the third round
reversal thing that do you know what the three best
draft slots to have to win a championship? Last year?
Where No. Twelve eleven ten?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Really wow?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Regular league?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Regular non Okay, all right, so it overcorrected last year.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
It sounds like it did. How do you third round
half reversal?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Truly, I did a study like five years ago that
maybe even more than that now where it said fifth
round reversal is actually where it should be to do
a better job even and out.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I can see that third, that third is too much.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah. Anyway, with the ultra flex thing, I'm probably I
think I'm probably going to keep it at least for
a few years and I'll change other things. Okay, I
think that's the way it's going to go.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, I think I think that makes sense if people
want to get involved with the scott Fish Bowl now,
and we should probably talk about Fantasy Cares for a minute.
You know, sometimes I think we presume that all of
our listeners already know because we've talked about it.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So many times over the course of the show.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Let's talk about the charity behind the scott fish Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Fantasy Cares.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah. Sure, Fantasy Cares is this charity that you know,
we've we've been doing for a long time. It was
like a fundraising group and then a nonprofit then now
five oh one c three accredited charity for several years. Now.
What we do is we we started out just getting
you know, going out toy shopping in partnership with we're
a national corporate sponsor of Toys for Tots. We'd go
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out with a marine and many many marines and many
many cities and buy toys for kids at Christmas time.
But we got so, we got big enough that we
are able to now help so many different different charities
anywhere from you know, pet shelters to food shelves to honestly,
there's just too made a list, you know. Yeah, it's
(21:36):
it's ridiculous. You know, Feed my Starving Children and uh
feed American you know ones like those as well. It's
it's just incredible what we've been able to do. Food insecurity,
That's what I was looking.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So if people want to get involved, either to play
in the scott Fish Bowl or to donate, what's the
best thing, what's the best thing for them to do
or things for them to do?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Uh Fantasycares dot org. You can donate there. We also
run campaigns constantly because one of the things we like
to do with our charity, we don't we don't want
to just be a charity where you donate and maybe
you get a mail or something and you get you know,
like a male, Hey, donate again or whatever. We we
want to build a community around this charity, so we
have fun contests for like PGA or you know, even
(22:21):
wrestling ones or March Madness or whatever. We have constant
campaigns all year long, so you can play in fun
little contests and have fun with it and meet other
like minded people who have interest in doing good with
this this fun hobby of ours. So Fantasycarees dot Org
and there's a campaigns page. I don't remember what we
have going on right now, but there's a campaigns page
to possibly join something fun along with donating.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yes, it's you know.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I've been you and I've been friends long enough that
I remember you fretting about like how many gonna get
I don't know. I think the number at the time
was like three hundred teams. How might I get three
hundred teams into this thing?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Now you have five?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
And yeah, it is It is crazy to think that
that even even even five six years ago, they were
less than a thousand, and now there's over five thousand.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, unbelievable, unbelievable. Thanks a lot for all the scott
Fish Bowl Intel.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Sure do you want to hear? Do you want to
hear my team. By the way, I know people.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Do want to hear.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
People don't care about other people's fantasy teams.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
But see I do. I weirdly do. I want to
hear like we like we talked about the eleven tight
end guy. We care about his.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, because he was doing something interesting.
I'm not going to go through my entire roster, but
I do want to. I do want to hear what
you think of my squad. Uh So I mentioned earlier,
start with Trey mc bride, came back.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
With Puka Nakua. In the middle of this pick six
I'm picking out of the six lot. Puka fell all
the way to the middle of the second round.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, he could lead the NFL and targets in receptions,
so okay, it was him or Malik Neighbors or Travis Hunter.
And I really struggled with that for upwards about like
ten seconds. But I was making a bloody Mary pool
side at the time.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
And justin that helps.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
That does the decision, It really does.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You Just yeah, you're just like, all right, I'll take
Pooker and then Chase Brown because I think the receptions
are going to go up. And uh, I do I want.
I want to have the running back. I'm gonna have
the Bengals starting running back.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Okay, yeah, middle of the third round.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Uh then start.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Then things got Then things got a little bit trickier.
Rashid Rice, who I'm really high on this year.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
You know before before he went out, Yeah he was,
he was great.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, like wide receiver four and the end of the.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Year before he was great.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Right, So I'm like, okay, I'll buy on him. Don't
like my next pick Omari and Hampton nervous, nervous about
that at that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Stage, Liz took him in like the third Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
She may have been egging me on at that point.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
She's big on Hampton gain a lot of volume, yes, yes,
no fear of nause Harris not a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And I wish I'd drafted Naji Hair. Then I had
Drake May and then you know, I'm not going to
bore people the rest of it, but that's the That
was the highlights of highlights of my squad right there.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Well, I mean, did you get Rashid scha heat at least?
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
No, I'm and I'm sad about that because you know
how I feel about it.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Are you sure I was? I was joking because he did.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Oh I did get him, Yes I did.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
As a matter of fact, I did get Rashik Shahid around.
They don't list the rounds here on this on sleep
or they really should one.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Too three, I don't. Let's call it round. Yeah, there
you go, thirteenth round. How about that. That's let's hear
from me, right, thirteen to seven Rashid Shahid. I love
that pick. I love my own picks. Scott.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Last year, you're you know, when you get done the
system or when all the drafts got done, we got
a you know, like would they appraise your your team?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And yes, yeah, it tells you how well you did
especially I think I can't remember the site that does that.
I hope they do it again this year. Where you are,
where you rank within all of us FT correct.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yes, last year it ranked me like sixty and I
had my best year by a mile. I made it
to the third round.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Oh yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, not bad. The third round of the playoffs was
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah that's good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
So the rank that system will worked pretty well for whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It seemed to, at least for yours. I got ranked
pretty low, but I did make the playoffs. I made
a couple of rounds into the playoffs camera for two
or three.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
But yeah, I remember, I recall. I think you and
I got knocked out in the same week if I
if I remember correctly, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I know you have other obligations. For those that want
to continue, I'm going to talk a little bit about
the Declaration of Independence and why it was such a
badass moment in the history of mankind.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I got a few moments, so I think I'll tag
here and listen. All right, if I do, dip out
before you're done. It was great. Thanks for having me on,
and that was great talking a great holiday weekend.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I want to start with this, of course, Declaration of Independence,
published and signed July fourth, seventeen seventy six. Some people
confuse it with the Constitution it is, It's not the Constitution.
This was the document that told the British and the
rest of the world that America was independent, and it
was basically a declaration of war with the globe's superpower, England.
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It was authored by five men, of course, you know,
Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, who would later become president,
Roger Sherman and Robert R.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Livingston.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And more importantly than just telling the British to f off,
the Declaration of Independence explained why America was going independent
and set the groundwork for the Constitution. And people think
the two happened near each other eleven years between the
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Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, in part because they
were at war with Britain for the Revolutionary War for
eight years. I think people forget now that the Revolutionary
War took eight years, so at the time there had
never been any document history of mankind anything like the
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Declaration of Independence. It had many key components. It said,
when in the course of human events, it becomes necessary
for one people to dissolve the political bands which have
connected them with another, and to assume the powers of
the earth, the separate and equal station to which the
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laws of nature and the end of Nature's God entitled them.
A decent respect to the opinion of mankind requires that
they should declare the causes which then impel them to
the separation. And in saying that they were saying some
really really key things that all men were created equal,
including the king. This is a rebuke of the highest
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or order to the globe superpower and the king himself,
and that all people had the right to life, liberty
and the pursuit of happiness, and that the main business
of government was just to protect those rights and not
to protect itself, was to protect the rights of its citizenry.
And if a government tries to withhold those rights, the people.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Get to revolt.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The document was audacious and his historic and an absolute
fu to Britain and its king, just throwing down the gauntlet.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
The goals. Yeah, go ahead, Scott.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I was going to say, did you know a lot
of that A lot of a lot of our declaration
came from the Declaration of Barbara where from Scottish history
in thirteen twenty against also England.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Funny how that works, right, England was the ultimate medaler
for a thousand years, So it's I guess it's not
that there were others that would end up trying that.
They also announced that they are that America is a
new independent country, and they did that because they needed
to recruit troops and rally people to their side, because
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they knew the war was going to come and they
needed to win foreign support. France and you couldn't do
it as just rebels. You had to do it as
your own country. So they announced the creation of the
country in the Declaration of Independence, and they list all
the grievances, which is really important, like cutting off trade,
imposing taxes with no representation, no trial by jury. They
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had swarmed the King, had swarmed the country with British
bureaucrats who were all just you know, paper shufflers who
were getting paid but weren't providing anything to the people
and blocking organized assembly and stuff like that. So they
listed They wanted to make sure the world knew that
this wasn't just for no reason, that here's what was
happening in America.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Because back in seventy seventy six, nobody really knew what
was going on in the middle of America.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Mostly, I want to tell you about the fifty six
men who signed the document, because it's crazy what they
were doing. They were committing treason punishable by death inside
the country that is being ruled by the British.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
You know, so this Scott, this would be like you, yeah,
committing treason knowing that down the street.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
In Lakeville is a police station and they could just
come to your house whenever they wanted arrest you and
put you to death.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, that is an incredible amount of I don't know
the words I'm allowed to say. The stones under carriage stones.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
That this don't It's like declaring war, yeah, against Minnesota,
while you're living in Minnesota, and it's punishable by death.
The final sentence of the Declaration of Independence says, we
mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and
our sacred honor. And it was Benjamin Franklin who said,
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after signing it, we must indeed all hang together, or
most assuredly, we shall hang separately. And all fifty six
of them risked everything to sign the Declaration of Independence.
And here's what they lost. And by the way, that
a lot of them had a lot to lose. Seventeen
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of the fifty six were aged in their thirties or less.
Two of them were in their twenties. And if you
were an older signer, you had your fortune, you were
a notable person. If you were signing this, you had land,
you had assets, you had families. They all were risked
at risk. If you were younger, you had your whole
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future at risk. Five of the signers were caught by
the British and brutally tortured. Nine of the Signers died
fighting in the Revolutionary War many many more were injured.
Two of the Signers lost their sons in the war.
Two of the Signers had their sons captured and tortured
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in the war. Twelve of the Signers had their homes
pillaged and raised. Seventeen of the Signers had to formally
file bankruptcy. They were bankrupted because all of their assets
had been taken by the British, and so many of
the Signers had family, wives, children who were jailed or
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tortured or mistreated or bankrupted that it was almost all
of the fifty six. And at the end of the day,
none of the fifty six backed off and recanted their decision.
None of them ended up flipping sides, even through the
eight year war.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Scott, jeez, So there you go. Yeah, incredible, it is incredible.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
There's nothing like this in America today.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Nope, Nope, there really isn't.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
No, you know, we're like, you know, oh, I don't
use plastic straws. That's my heroism.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
For the day.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So, you know, yeah, things of things have changed. Those
guys were those fifty six. Unbelievable what they risked and
the liberties that we enjoy today. I think most of
us take for granted.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Thanks for hanging out, Scott.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Thanks thanks for having me. It was fun to hear
about too.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, little history lesson at the end. We never do
this on Fantasy Football Weekly, but we're doing it today.
We'll talk to you down the road, and thanks for listening, everybody.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly
source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and
whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now,
here's your host, Paul Jarchian.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Happy fourth of July, everybody, Paul Jarchian here. My co
host for Independence Day is Scott Fish.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hey, buddy, Hey, hey.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
If I'm gonna show up, it's gonna be for this one.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, it's been a while.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I mean you you are a co host on this show,
and we have had far too much independence from Scott Fish.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Yeah, it's it's it's been a busy, busy summer. But
I am. I'm back for this show and I'm sure
I'll be back in a few weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I hope so too. I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I know that's sort of the plan right now to
get you back into the rotation.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
But you've been busy, I mean, you know, legitimate busy.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So there's that running this little thing, uh that's uh
turned into a absolute juggernaut, the Scott Fish Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We are on iteration number fifteen.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Scott, Yes, fifteen years fifteen years. Yes, that's an insane
amount of.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Time, isn't it. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You never could have guessed in your one what this
thing would turn into.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
No, no, I I completely figured that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, right, everybody saw it coming.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
No, nobody's not coming nobody.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
No, it's uh. We talked about it last week.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You were on the show, Kent and I talked about
the Vegas draft and how awesome that is and how
I'm never going back even if I even if Vegas
stops being the closest venue, I'm still going to Vegas
every year.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
That's always going back.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I'm always going back to Vegas. Now, that's it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's it's the to me, it's the high water mark
for all the live events that you do around scott
Fish Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But we're really where are we in the in the
in the the general. I guess the schedule of scott
Fishbowl drafts. Where are we right now?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I know it's a giant schedule.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Now right the day it was like a week, got.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
On a certain Monday and everybody's done within ten days.
That's what it used to be. Now we start, we
have a full month of SFB live events from June
twenty first through July twentieth, it's legitimately a month of
live events and right smack dab in the middle. This
upcoming to Monday the seventh is when the slow drafts
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start the Potathon, which is a twenty four hour like
old school telethon. It's a potathon, though it's live streamed
on our YouTube that starts Sunday at noon. It's every
half an hour. We have different guests from around the industry,
different analysts jumping on to talk SFB or fantasy cares
or what they have going on. It's becoming a very
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very big undertaking all of the things we got going
on for s FB.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Now I had the disadvantage of basically having to drive
oft first out of everybody.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And you know things have changed since that draft. You
know we, you know we at the time, we're all
trying to get our arms around this new scoring system.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
There was no guidance to go.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
By, which honestly I kind of liked because then you
didn't have to worry so much about like am I
doing quote the right thing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You could just blaze your trail. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I feel like now already two weeks later there's a
right and wrong path.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
No, there there may be, and stuff happens. I mean
the year that Le'Veon Bell got hurt, he got hurt
during the drafts and then people were picking up James
Connor and yeah, and this year multiple tight ends have
transferred teams in unretired rights going on.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, speaking which might beloved John new Smith.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Conceptly, Okay, first fear the Dolphins. Here you are you,
you unlock the amazing athleticism of John new Smith. You're
the first team that really gets what he can bring
to the table, and don't have him paired with some
other guy like Kyle Pitts or Hunter Henry.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And he has this huge breakout season.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
He's his own man out there.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yes, so what do you do?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You trade him to the freaking Steelers where now he's
back to being part of a one two punch with
Pat Fryermouth and we'll become basically undraftable. I'm just I'm
so bummed out about this.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Without Pickens, Can they just just throw them out there
where Pickens was?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
They should that's right, let them line up outside. I say,
go for it. Oh, I'm really really bummed out about that.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
That's all right.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I'm sorry, Scott. We'll talk.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
We'll talk a bunch of Scott Fishbowl stuff, but I
want to mention at the end of the show, it's
going to be a bonus mini episode about the Declaration
of Independence and what a badass move it was, Okay
in seventeen seventy seven, insanely bold and the bravery of
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the signers unbelievable, and nobody talks to you. Nobody mentions
what it took to do it and the price that
people paid for the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
We'll talk a little bit about that at.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
These I know we rarely go off sports, but I
always feel like people don't appreciate that enough. So I'm
gonna take the opportunity for the two people that will
listen to the end of this podcast when we're done
talking about fantasy football. I like it all right, And
you don't have to stay for that, by the way,
you can just be like, you know, we'll come out.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, How timing works out here?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yes, And I know you do have you have other
you have other time commitments.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Uh, let's talk. I want to let's talk about the
average draft position of players. What's unique about the Scott
Fish Bowl scoring system. Well, let me, I'll let you
tell people. I don't have to tell people.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You can.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Why don't you tell people what makes the scott Fish
Bowl scoring system so different this year?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Yeah, this year it's really volume as king and that
that's that's the easiest way to put it. A lot
of the stuff is pretty standard. Your your quarterback passing
and your quarterback and you're running back and receiving yards
are all very very normal. You know that one per
ten one per twenty five touchdowns are all six. That's
that's pretty normal. There's a lot of normal stuff there.
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But when you get to the scoring where volume becomes
king is on MFL. If you're playing on there, you
get a point per target and a point per reception.
So that's that's potentially two points for a catch because
you're getting the target too, and and target monsters who
don't catch the ball a lot, like Calvin regularly or
Jameson Williams or something, yeah, or Kyle Pitts get all
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those target points. But but and if you're playing on sleeper,
you get two and a half points per reception just
to try to Yeah, yep, And then we have some
IDP scoring for we don't have any ID PLEA players.
We just have Travis Hunter and maybe Bo Melton and
a few others that play ID play the IDP side.
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So we got some scoring because I want them to
get whatever they get when they're playing on the field.
And I think one of the bigger changes is the
starting lineup is it's ultraflex this year. It's eleven starters,
no positional requirements. If you want to start eleven running backs,
you can start eleven running backs.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So in my draft, and again we were we were
part of the first draft. There were three simultaneous drafts
that started this whole, this whole process, and ours was.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
One of them. We had somebody who went.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Wide receiver for the first five picks, and in my
same draft somebody went running back with the first seven
seven picks. Scott, those are totally valid approaches.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
They are sure, why not?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And where else are you gonna do it?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah? Yeah, we didn't win the scoring. Between the positions,
they're somewhat balanced. And you don't have positional requirements. You're
not like, oh I need to you know, I need
to start two running backs, so I better get one soon.
You just don't care anymore. You're just taking best available
and or the players you just really like.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Do you have a sense of how quarterbacks are going
to play into this scoring system?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Very well?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Yet I think people will still mostly start too just
because the safety of there's no negatives in this scoring yep.
So I think just the safety of a low of
a high floor will we'll keep them within those eleven starters.
But I will say there's really only you know, four
or five quarterbacks in the top twenty five last year
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in this format. They're they're kind of nerved a little
bit because there's so much reward for Carrie's and receptions
that it moves everybody else up. But I still think
that the floor is there for them, and you know,
you're just not going to draft them as high because
they don't have the same ceiling as skill the other
skills positions.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I didn't take a quarterback until round seven Drake May okay,
and then I took a couple in the four or
five rounds after that, Jordan Love, who I think is
going to really outperform as adp and Gino Smith, who
I also think is Tino Smith is going after like
Anthony Richardson and Bryce Young.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, that doesn't know Sam Darnold for us anyway. So
that was my That's how I saw it.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Scott was I just want a couple of quarterbacks just
because for sure points, but I'm not putting any real
pick equity into that. Have you seen the ADP for
across all of the scott Fish bulls reflect that that
quarterbacks aren't going as high.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, that's absolutely what it is. I mean, the ADP
still has three quarterbacks going in the top twelve or
thirteen or so. As I've watched these live drafts unfold,
I went to the Chicago live event, I went to
the Vegas live event. It seems like four of them,
the four running quarterbacks who we can all just it's
in our heads. We know it's the Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen,
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Jayden Daniels, and Jalen Hurts. They are routinely top two
round picks and then there's a little bit more slide
for the rest. That seems to be the way it's going.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I had picked six in the scott Fish Bowl and
brock Bauers went pick one, and then I took Trey
McBride at pick eleven because there is an extra there's
an extra point for tight end, So I'm like, okay,
per reception. So I'm I go, all right, well, I'm
gonna take Trey McBride.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I've seen the second half of the season. They were
like dad, even I've seen tre go ahead of Brock
in some of these.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, you know, if you think the touchdowns are gonna
come around and you just want volume, Trey McBride is
your volume leader at tight end, or at least he
was last year. Sure, so yeah, the two touchdowns will
change obviously.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, yeah, I think so too. You want to know
who I'm taking at the one on one? Do you do?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You have the one on one?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I have the one on one. I always take the
one on one just to get it done and then
I can go work on other things.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Oh funny how you don't take twelve.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And I've definitely done twelve in the past because when
it when it was a corner year, you know, when
the before the three I I used to take twelve
because then I can do both picks and just get
back to work right right exactly. But I'm taking Ashton genty,
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He's going off the board as pick eight in scott
Fish Bowl drafts everywhere.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
A high of two. He's one of the top eight
or nine players that have not gone number one overall.
But I'm big on get your guys. Yeah, he's a
first rounder. So if I'm at the one on one,
I have to take him there because I'm not getting
him in the next round. And I just love Boise.
I almost went to college at Boise State. I've been
a big Boise fan for a long time.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Still wearing blue right now.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I'm just gonna do it. I'm just gonna do it,
all right.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So that'll be your first pick, Ashton genty pick number one.
You'll be the first person. When are you drafting?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
By the way, I'm a slow draft. I always do
a slow yeah. When I attend these live events, I'm
way too busy to draft exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Minneapolis Live event is coming soon, right.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yep, July twelfth. It'll be uh, it'll be a fun one.
We got a lot of really good donated prizes. I
got a pylon. Oh my gosh, get this. I got
a pylon signed by Chris Carter that says all I
do is Cutch catch TDS.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Shut up.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
That's awesome, man, Okay, all right, Okay, here's what I
want to do. Yeah, as you know, in Las Vegas,
my wife and I bought enough Raffle tickets that we
won four prizes. I want to exchange those four prizes.
The Neon Museum is gonna have to wait, the Bagel
Factory's gonna have to wait. I want to exchange those
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four prizes for that pylon signed by Chris Carter, who
only catches touchdowns?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Okay? Or would you rather have the John John Randall
sign helmet or the Chris Carter? All I do is
catch touchdowns sign football.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Wow, the pylon's way cooler.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Nobody's gotta sign Pilon.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
That's why we get them, because they go so well
at the live events because nobody has signed Pilon, Right,
nobody's got that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh man, I've got got some jealousy about that. Now,
Can I buy? Can I buy Raffle tickets from here
for the Minneapolis? Can I just like Venomo you and
enough to ensure I win.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
That, we'll get We'll fly to you a proxy.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I gotta get a proxy puts in my Scott fish
Bowl donations.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I love it. That's fantastic, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So you got picked, all right, so I pick number
one is going to be ashy and genty That puts
you on the board for pick twenty four. Yep, that's
exactly Travis hunter territory. He's currently going off the board
at pick twenty four. Would you take him there? Give
him the scoring.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Cysent take him if he's available, And I'm not even
sure if it's the I don't know if it's the
right value. It's just fun. Yeah, it's just fun. And
I'm not gonna win a five thousand team tournament, but
I can have fun in a five thousand team tournament.
Hell yeah, absolutely absolutely, I'll take Travis Hunter there for sure,
(13:52):
because who.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Knows how this thing's gonna gonna break apart? And you
know there's a Travis Hunter has a path to be
the highest scoring player in scott fish Ball.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
He does. I had someone tell me this at one
of the live events, and I can't remember who it
was or which one it was, but they said, I
don't know what if he's so good at wide receiver,
he never plays different defense and gets those points. And
I said to.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Him, said, anyway, right, yes, absolutely, same same could happen
at cornerback. Although if you get to the Dion level
of cornerbacking Scott, nobody passes at you. You get no interceptions.
Dean wouldn't tackle anyway, he got no tackles. Dean Sanders
(14:32):
as arguably one of the all time great shutdown corners.
He just people just stopped throwing on his side of
the field.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yep, yeah, you know that stamps right on that quite
a few times from the revuses, even even the early
saw like not saw us right away his rookie year,
but end a rookie year into the next year, like
that's it happens.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah. Travis Hunter's high draft position again his average pick
twenty four, high draft position five.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I like that somebody took him as high as five bold.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
That is great. That is great.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Talk to me about this is the player whose ADP
is the lowest but has gone first overall.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Devon a Chan.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Oh you know how I feel. We feel. We are
generally on different pages. You feel like he he can't
be a he and I think you're right. He can't
be a work horse. I just think he can do
with the volume he gets. I think he can put
up great points. The problem is in this format he's
not a work horse. He is a ten to fifteen
touched back. You know, he's never going to be a
(15:39):
work carse he needs those targets and receptions he was
getting at the end of last year. Yeah, that's what
he needs.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So do you think with John Hugone, Yeah, and I
should look up John Who's target numbers. But do you
think with John u Gone that ultimately means more less
or the same number of receptions for Devon Eh?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I mean I would think more because I think some
of those checkdowns. As as we know, Tua was a
top two checkdown artist last year. He was either first
or second in checkdowns, so he was he was consistently
trying to find a chan Or or John Whu or
you know, just running backs in general. So I could
I could see it. We'll see if that changes this year,
(16:22):
but I could see him taking a share of that.
I don't think they've added anything that that that Tua
would feel safety in compared to Chan and what he's done.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I would normally in these situations, I say, if it's
bad for the offense, it hurts.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Everybody right right.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You know where the Dolphins are a little bit different
is they still have Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddles. So
I mean there's still outside threats that defenses have to
account for.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
And so, by the way, one.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Hundred and eleven targets for John hu Smith last year.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Wow, one hundred eleven.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So yeah, I do think some of those alendo going
to devon a Chan And then I think the big
question mark is obviously will do to stay healthy? And
then that offensive line, which has been bad. Tron Armstead retired.
They they did add a new starting either.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Left or right tackle. I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Remember which side James Daniels is going to play. I
think left, uh, left guard, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
And he was good with Pittsburgh, reasonably good, So I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
That offensive line, though, has not been great. They need
guys to start living up to their draft billing on
the offensive line for the for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Well maybe that maybe that rush makes him check down
to a Chan more.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah might well yeah, you know, because that's that's what
happened last year, So maybe it ends up happening here
in Guillotine.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I can't I a chance. Too dangerous to me.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You get, you get the injury history, which God bless
him for staying upright last year. You have the offensive
line questions and the two of question and that's just
too much risk for a guillotine league.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah my opinion.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I you mentioned the running back rushes in this I
did see someone go nine, ten, eleven running backs in
a row. And I saw mock the other day, not
the real draft, but a mock where up the twenty
two picks they took eleven tight ends. Wow, that's having.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Fun with it one. Yeah, they should.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Somebody should actually try to execute that. I like to
see what happened on this show last week. Ken said
he's not drafting any receivers.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't I at the time, I didn't really challenge
him on that, but I probably should have, just like, okay,
I can.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Again can build your team however you want in this
from mat But that is interesting as because I understand
they don't quite have the same volume ceiling as the
running backs, but there comes a point where their depth
is where their strength is because there's so many wide receivers,
and especially week to week, you know, like when you're
trying to put in a starter each week, you can
(18:58):
we do this on fancy well weekly all the time
there are injuries or their defenses or whatever, where we're like,
this guy is primed for you know, a decent amount
of target share this day.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
You know, right right.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
When do you start fretting about the next year's scoring system,
because I'm already thinking about where? How where do you
pivot from here? With ultraflex eleven starters. Anything you do
next year, people are gonna feel all constrained by They're.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Like, ohh, I gotta start three receivers.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I've done this a bunch of times. I did this,
and I was I was removing third round reversal this
year until people started whining and they were confused. I
specifically did not include third round reversal in my in
my preliminary email, but I brought it back. But we'll
probably remove it next year. I'll do time things from
(19:52):
time to time where I will have a setting for
three years and then it's gone on the third round
reversal thing that do you know what the three best
draft slots to have to win a championship? Last year?
Where No. Twelve eleven ten?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Really wow?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Regular league?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Regular non Okay, all right, so it overcorrected last year.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
It sounds like it did. How do you third round
half reversal?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Truly, I did a study like five years ago that
maybe even more than that now where it said fifth
round reversal is actually where it should be to do
a better job even and out.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I can see that third, that third is too much.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah. Anyway, with the ultra flex thing, I'm probably I
think I'm probably going to keep it at least for
a few years and I'll change other things. Okay, I
think that's the way it's going to go.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, I think I think that makes sense if people
want to get involved with the scott Fish Bowl now,
and we should probably talk about Fantasy Cares for a minute.
You know, sometimes I think we presume that all of
our listeners already know because we've talked about it.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So many times over the course of the show.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Let's talk about the charity behind the scott fish Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Fantasy Cares.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah. Sure, Fantasy Cares is this charity that you know,
we've we've been doing for a long time. It was
like a fundraising group and then a nonprofit then now
five oh one c three accredited charity for several years. Now.
What we do is we we started out just getting
you know, going out toy shopping in partnership with we're
a national corporate sponsor of Toys for Tots. We'd go
(21:15):
out with a marine and many many marines and many
many cities and buy toys for kids at Christmas time.
But we got so, we got big enough that we
are able to now help so many different different charities
anywhere from you know, pet shelters to food shelves to honestly,
there's just too made a list, you know. Yeah, it's
(21:36):
it's ridiculous. You know, Feed my Starving Children and uh
feed American you know ones like those as well. It's
it's just incredible what we've been able to do. Food insecurity,
That's what I was looking.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So if people want to get involved, either to play
in the scott Fish Bowl or to donate, what's the
best thing, what's the best thing for them to do
or things for them to do?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Uh Fantasycares dot org. You can donate there. We also
run campaigns constantly because one of the things we like
to do with our charity, we don't we don't want
to just be a charity where you donate and maybe
you get a mail or something and you get you know,
like a male, Hey, donate again or whatever. We we
want to build a community around this charity, so we
have fun contests for like PGA or you know, even
(22:21):
wrestling ones or March Madness or whatever. We have constant
campaigns all year long, so you can play in fun
little contests and have fun with it and meet other
like minded people who have interest in doing good with
this this fun hobby of ours. So Fantasycarees dot Org
and there's a campaigns page. I don't remember what we
have going on right now, but there's a campaigns page
to possibly join something fun along with donating.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yes, it's you know.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I've been you and I've been friends long enough that
I remember you fretting about like how many gonna get
I don't know. I think the number at the time
was like three hundred teams. How might I get three
hundred teams into this thing?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Now you have five?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
And yeah, it is It is crazy to think that
that even even even five six years ago, they were
less than a thousand, and now there's over five thousand.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, unbelievable, unbelievable. Thanks a lot for all the scott
Fish Bowl Intel.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Sure do you want to hear? Do you want to
hear my team. By the way, I know people.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Do want to hear.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
People don't care about other people's fantasy teams.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
But see I do. I weirdly do. I want to
hear like we like we talked about the eleven tight
end guy. We care about his.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, because he was doing something interesting.
I'm not going to go through my entire roster, but
I do want to. I do want to hear what
you think of my squad. Uh So I mentioned earlier,
start with Trey mc bride, came back.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
With Puka Nakua. In the middle of this pick six
I'm picking out of the six lot. Puka fell all
the way to the middle of the second round.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, he could lead the NFL and targets in receptions,
so okay, it was him or Malik Neighbors or Travis Hunter.
And I really struggled with that for upwards about like
ten seconds. But I was making a bloody Mary pool
side at the time.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
And justin that helps.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
That does the decision, It really does.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You Just yeah, you're just like, all right, I'll take
Pooker and then Chase Brown because I think the receptions
are going to go up. And uh, I do I want.
I want to have the running back. I'm gonna have
the Bengals starting running back.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Okay, yeah, middle of the third round.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Uh then start.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Then things got Then things got a little bit trickier.
Rashid Rice, who I'm really high on this year.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
You know before before he went out, Yeah he was,
he was great.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, like wide receiver four and the end of the.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Year before he was great.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Right, So I'm like, okay, I'll buy on him. Don't
like my next pick Omari and Hampton nervous, nervous about
that at that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Stage, Liz took him in like the third Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
She may have been egging me on at that point.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
She's big on Hampton gain a lot of volume, yes, yes,
no fear of nause Harris not a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And I wish I'd drafted Naji Hair. Then I had
Drake May and then you know, I'm not going to
bore people the rest of it, but that's the That
was the highlights of highlights of my squad right there.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Well, I mean, did you get Rashid scha heat at least?
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
No, I'm and I'm sad about that because you know
how I feel about it.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Are you sure I was? I was joking because he did.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Oh I did get him, Yes I did.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
As a matter of fact, I did get Rashik Shahid around.
They don't list the rounds here on this on sleep
or they really should one.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Too three, I don't. Let's call it round. Yeah, there
you go, thirteenth round. How about that. That's let's hear
from me, right, thirteen to seven Rashid Shahid. I love
that pick. I love my own picks. Scott.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Last year, you're you know, when you get done the
system or when all the drafts got done, we got
a you know, like would they appraise your your team?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
And yes, yeah, it tells you how well you did
especially I think I can't remember the site that does that.
I hope they do it again this year. Where you are,
where you rank within all of us FT correct.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yes, last year it ranked me like sixty and I
had my best year by a mile. I made it
to the third round.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Oh yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, not bad. The third round of the playoffs was
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah that's good. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
So the rank that system will worked pretty well for whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It seemed to, at least for yours. I got ranked
pretty low, but I did make the playoffs. I made
a couple of rounds into the playoffs camera for two
or three.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
But yeah, I remember, I recall. I think you and
I got knocked out in the same week if I
if I remember correctly, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I know you have other obligations. For those that want
to continue, I'm going to talk a little bit about
the Declaration of Independence and why it was such a
badass moment in the history of mankind.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I got a few moments, so I think I'll tag
here and listen. All right, if I do, dip out
before you're done. It was great. Thanks for having me on,
and that was great talking a great holiday weekend.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I want to start with this, of course, Declaration of Independence,
published and signed July fourth, seventeen seventy six. Some people
confuse it with the Constitution it is, It's not the Constitution.
This was the document that told the British and the
rest of the world that America was independent, and it
was basically a declaration of war with the globe's superpower, England.
(27:22):
It was authored by five men, of course, you know,
Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, who would later become president,
Roger Sherman and Robert R.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Livingston.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And more importantly than just telling the British to f off,
the Declaration of Independence explained why America was going independent
and set the groundwork for the Constitution. And people think
the two happened near each other eleven years between the
(27:52):
Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, in part because they
were at war with Britain for the Revolutionary War for
eight years. I think people forget now that the Revolutionary
War took eight years, so at the time there had
never been any document history of mankind anything like the
(28:15):
Declaration of Independence. It had many key components. It said,
when in the course of human events, it becomes necessary
for one people to dissolve the political bands which have
connected them with another, and to assume the powers of
the earth, the separate and equal station to which the
(28:36):
laws of nature and the end of Nature's God entitled them.
A decent respect to the opinion of mankind requires that
they should declare the causes which then impel them to
the separation. And in saying that they were saying some
really really key things that all men were created equal,
including the king. This is a rebuke of the highest
(28:59):
or order to the globe superpower and the king himself,
and that all people had the right to life, liberty
and the pursuit of happiness, and that the main business
of government was just to protect those rights and not
to protect itself, was to protect the rights of its citizenry.
And if a government tries to withhold those rights, the people.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Get to revolt.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The document was audacious and his historic and an absolute
fu to Britain and its king, just throwing down the gauntlet.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
The goals. Yeah, go ahead, Scott.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I was going to say, did you know a lot
of that A lot of a lot of our declaration
came from the Declaration of Barbara where from Scottish history
in thirteen twenty against also England.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Funny how that works, right, England was the ultimate medaler
for a thousand years, So it's I guess it's not
that there were others that would end up trying that.
They also announced that they are that America is a
new independent country, and they did that because they needed
to recruit troops and rally people to their side, because
(30:13):
they knew the war was going to come and they
needed to win foreign support. France and you couldn't do
it as just rebels. You had to do it as
your own country. So they announced the creation of the
country in the Declaration of Independence, and they list all
the grievances, which is really important, like cutting off trade,
imposing taxes with no representation, no trial by jury. They
(30:37):
had swarmed the King, had swarmed the country with British
bureaucrats who were all just you know, paper shufflers who
were getting paid but weren't providing anything to the people
and blocking organized assembly and stuff like that. So they
listed They wanted to make sure the world knew that
this wasn't just for no reason, that here's what was
happening in America.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Because back in seventy seventy six, nobody really knew what
was going on in the middle of America.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Mostly, I want to tell you about the fifty six
men who signed the document, because it's crazy what they
were doing. They were committing treason punishable by death inside
the country that is being ruled by the British.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
You know, so this Scott, this would be like you, yeah,
committing treason knowing that down the street.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
In Lakeville is a police station and they could just
come to your house whenever they wanted arrest you and
put you to death.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, that is an incredible amount of I don't know
the words I'm allowed to say. The stones under carriage stones.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
That this don't It's like declaring war, yeah, against Minnesota,
while you're living in Minnesota, and it's punishable by death.
The final sentence of the Declaration of Independence says, we
mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and
our sacred honor. And it was Benjamin Franklin who said,
(32:09):
after signing it, we must indeed all hang together, or
most assuredly, we shall hang separately. And all fifty six
of them risked everything to sign the Declaration of Independence.
And here's what they lost. And by the way, that
a lot of them had a lot to lose. Seventeen
(32:31):
of the fifty six were aged in their thirties or less.
Two of them were in their twenties. And if you
were an older signer, you had your fortune, you were
a notable person. If you were signing this, you had land,
you had assets, you had families. They all were risked
at risk. If you were younger, you had your whole
(32:52):
future at risk. Five of the signers were caught by
the British and brutally tortured. Nine of the Signers died
fighting in the Revolutionary War many many more were injured.
Two of the Signers lost their sons in the war.
Two of the Signers had their sons captured and tortured
(33:13):
in the war. Twelve of the Signers had their homes
pillaged and raised. Seventeen of the Signers had to formally
file bankruptcy. They were bankrupted because all of their assets
had been taken by the British, and so many of
the Signers had family, wives, children who were jailed or
(33:34):
tortured or mistreated or bankrupted that it was almost all
of the fifty six. And at the end of the day,
none of the fifty six backed off and recanted their decision.
None of them ended up flipping sides, even through the
eight year war.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Scott, jeez, So there you go. Yeah, incredible, it is incredible.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
There's nothing like this in America today.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Nope, Nope, there really isn't.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
No, you know, we're like, you know, oh, I don't
use plastic straws. That's my heroism.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
For the day.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
So, you know, yeah, things of things have changed. Those
guys were those fifty six. Unbelievable what they risked and
the liberties that we enjoy today. I think most of
us take for granted.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Thanks for hanging out, Scott.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Thanks thanks for having me. It was fun to hear
about too.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, little history lesson at the end. We never do
this on Fantasy Football Weekly, but we're doing it today.
We'll talk to you down the road, and thanks for listening, everybody.
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