Teammate vs Teammate

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
Speculation and advice.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Now along with the guys from Guillotine Leagues dot com.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Here's your host. Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am
Paul Jarchi and my co hosts today are Scottfish and Thorneistrom.
We are in the belly of drafting seson us.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Draft weekend, the last draft weekend. It's it's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I love it. It's uh if you're not, if your
drafts are not already done, this is the big, big
chance to get everything squared away, join those final leagues,
get rolling for the year. It's the best. We love
this time of year, Yes, so much. Here's what we've
got coming up on the show. Lots of great stuff.
We're gonna talk about what we learned in training camp
for most every team. We're gonna go through and we

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do this every year. It's one of my favorite things.
Draft personas. The idea is if you were to come
in with the idea that you're drafting all young players
like rookies and second year players. Here's what your draft
looks like. If you're doing all reliable players, here's what
your draft looks like. If you're doing the opposite, here's
what your draft looks like. We'll tell you can help
figure out what the best draft strategy for you.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yes, yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
A bit that we do every year as well called
I might be wrong about that. Yeah, where we've been
spending the entire month of August talking up particular takes
going hard at our favorite players, the guys we don't like.
But what if we're wrong and.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Well, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I was not exactly right. It happens sometimes, like once
a year we do something wrong and yeah, we'll identify
with it.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
It's rare, but we want to admit that's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well, identify which teammates we'd rather have at their average position.
Would you rather have Kenneth Walker in the fourth round?
Zach Sharbonnay in the eighth round? As what turned out
to be an extremely difficult one, we'll talk through that.
We'll give you our three tough questions, our sleepers of
the week, and will even break down the Thursday night

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game Dallas, what's left of the Dallas Cowboys against the
Eagles in what is probably going to be a one
sided slaughter, but we'll talk that through in the final segment.
So so much to get to we're excited you're joining us.
Let's go through the training camps beginning thor with the
Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
What did we learn well, Khalil Shakir coming.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
He suffered a high innkle spring early in camp that
had him ount of practice until this past Wednesday, which
gives some hope that he is going to be ready
for the opener. The team has expressed confidence that Khalil
Shakir indeed will be available for Week one. Last year,
he was the number one target in that offense. He
drew a target on twenty eight point seven percent of
his routes, that ring number sixteenth in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Shakir is because of that ankle injury. He's slipping down
draft boards and he might be just fine for Week
one and beyond.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, and they didn't bring in anyone else. It's gonna
be the same thing. They're gonna pound him with targets again.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Josh Palmer does not count. No Scott Green Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
They fully expect both Tyreek Hill and Devon a Chan
to be healthy for week one. In fact, they've said
Tyreek Hill looks great. Jalen Wright had a minor procedure
but hopes for September return. And now we find out
the minor procedure was leg surgery. That's the detail we
have on that. Yes, so remember my sleeper from a

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previous week, Olli Gordon, he's got a little clearer runway.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Now rocketing up draft boards, Ali Gordon. Let's go to
the Jets after Garrett Wilson. Your opening day wide receivers
are Josh Reynolds and Alan Lazard. Lazzard miss most of
the preseason the shoulder injury, but he's back now. I'll
mention this new head coach, Aaron Glenn says he wants
to get back backup runner Braylan Allen more involved in
the offense. I'll believe it when I see it in
new coaching staff.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
So maybe Allen has look better than all of this preseason.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
He's there is a little something there. There's a little
something there. Let's go to the Patriots, not the Patriots,
the Cowboys store.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
The Cowboys traded a little known defensive player named Micah Parsons.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Just kidding for.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Fantasy, resting young players for fantasy relevance.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
Javonte Williams won the starting running back job over rookies
Jaden Blue and Film Off, and of course the veteran
Miles Sanders.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Jayden Blue is still sidelined with the knee ankle.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Issue, and spoiler alert, we'll be talking more about Javonte
Williams later in the episode.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
All right, let's go to the Philadelphia Eagles. What have
we learned in training camp? Scott, I think the.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Only thing really noteworthy over the last week or so
is aj Brown was missing a few practices with a
hamstring injury. But he's been back to practice for the
last couple so in case it lingers and comes back.
You know, he had a hammy issue in the preseason with.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
The Patriots, we learned or just you know, I guess
got acknowledgement of what we expected. Rookie running back Travon
Henderson looked amazing all preseason, Stefan Diggs surprised us appears
fully recovered from his ACL injury. And there's another Patriots
player that might make an appearance later in this show
that is worth monitoring, and perhaps a somebody to throw

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the last pick of your draft at.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Mighty pop in there in later in the show, he.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Might make yes, we might view him from behind. Let's
go to the commanders for.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
What we learned about the Commanders in training camp is
clarity on their running back situation. After Brian Robinson was traded,
you opened the door for Jakry Krossky Merrit everyone's favorite
sleeper who's no longer a sleeper. But the point I
really wanted to make is Austin Ecler. I think he's
going to have a bigger season second season in Washington
than his first one thirty five catches in twelve games

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last year. I think he doubles that. The catch total
this year. I think it's going to be seventy plus.
And then Chris Rodriguez. Keep this in mind, Jakry Krofsky
Merit Truther is out there. Chris Rodriguez, it looks like
he's going to be the goal on or at least
that's that's sort of the idea. A grinder type guy
might siphon some touchdowns from Jakory Krasky Mayor, but we're
going to see all three of those guys this year.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
I think Chris.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Rodriguez two years in the league averaged four point eight
and four point nine yards.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Per chase a lot.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
That is a lot. He is a good He is
a good, not great. He is a good player.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
He's a fighter who's going to get everything that's blocked
for him at minimum.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Let's go to Carolina Scott.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
But if we learned first off Bill Krossky maryor my
nineteen dot twelve pick in SFB.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
That looks good right now?

Speaker 5 (06:28):
We need the peacock sounder for that one.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Peacock.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
I took Olie Gordon on the corner before that.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
Wow, Okay, you can't win the Year of the fishboat,
can you?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
No?

Speaker 4 (06:39):
I got second one here though the Carolina Panthers traded
away Adam Feelen, opening the door wide open for last
week's UH sleeper from Thor, which is Jalen Coker. The
Panthers have already said he will slide into the slot.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
With the New York Giants. Backup quarterback Jackson Dart looked
very poised in the preseason re touchdowns, no turnovers, nice wheels,
two fifty two rushing yards in the preseason Jackson Dart.
We've mentioned at other shows, there's a real scenario here
where rolling into November. The Giants are sitting on like
two three wins and they just hand the reins over
to Jackson Dart in Dynasty Empire leagues, a really intriguing

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guy and fourth rounder Cam Scattabo missed most of training
camp with a hamstring injury, but slated to be ready
four week number one thor the Falcons, what do we
learned in training camp?

Speaker 6 (07:28):
We get some more clarity on their wide receiver situation
with Darnol Mooney, who missed most of preseason camp, returning
to practice for the first time on Thursday since that
shoulder injury he suffered early in camp. The team believes
that he has a shot to be back four week one,
which would be huge because outside of Drake London, what
do you have in the past catching corps there for
Michael Pennix.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Not much. Let's go to the Saints and Scott what
have we learned there?

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Spencer Radler was named the starter for those deep deep
superflex leagues. Yes, Taysum Hill and fust and Moreau were
put on pewpiece. Jawan Johnson, also in very deep leagues,
might be a beneficiary.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I've mentioned him many ties. He's one of my favorite
sleepers deep sleepers for the Bucks. Both Chris Godwin and
Jalen McMillan expected him as significant time in the regular season.
Evans and Egbuka are going to start. We're going to
talk about which one of those two are a better
value at their ADP in this show. Let's go to
the Colts thor what have we learned there?

Speaker 6 (08:23):
That Anthony Richardson's not it? And they're moving on. Of course,
they named Daniel Jones this starting quarterback. And one thing
I wanted to hit on with that Shane Stike and
his comments after that. He emphasized Jones's potential for designed runs.
People don't think of him as the athlete as Anthony
richard because he's not. But Daniel Jones can run five
point one yards per attempt since twenty nineteen as a runner.

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So the idea being that he could compliment Jonathan Taylor.
It will be interesting to see if he gets you
know it, steals any touchdowns. But the other one I
want to mention Tyler Warren, who impressed in training camp,
is expected to contribute significantly as a rookie. I've said
that I think he's gonna have over one hundred targets
this year, but Tyler Warren also could be getting goal
line carries as wild wildcat quarterback like he functioned at

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at Penn State, trying to trying to churn out some yards.
You can do some cool things with Tyler Warren. So
it's I just want to make people aware, the Jonathan
Taylor owners, that there are potential for siphoning of touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
You're the goal line.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I would be stunned if that comes to pass at
the end of the NFL level that Jonathan Taylor gets
benched for Tyler Warren.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Not not not bench, but that Tyler Warren is such
an awesome short yardage runner.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
We're going to see it some this year for sure.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I hope that comes true because that's fun tape. This
is going to be a great call.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
It'll just remind charge of John Eu and that'll just
make him really, really happy.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, this whole whole Indy actually, Indy tight ends. We
should have been talking about Johnny Woods. That's another conversation
for another day. The Jaguars is a conversation for right now.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
I know this is a potentially fantasy impacting one too. Uh.
Travis Hunter has been at full speed now back to practice.
But some in reports, people close to the Jaguars have
said that they're now saying he might play more defense
than offense, and in of course, and they hope for
fifty to fifty five catches out of him. And in
a corresponding move, right as that was breaking, they acquired

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Tim Patrick Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Taj Spears goes to ir Tony Pollard's going to be
a workhorse for at least a month. Last year, Pollard
played four games without Spears. He averaged twenty two carries
for one hundred and one yards in a broken offense
with no quarterback.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah, I'm man, this is especially.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
For people who care about early season hot starts. Tony
Pollard'd be a I agree with that value.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yeah, yeah, he's going He's value on the sticker price
right now for Tony Poter for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Let's go to the Detroit Lions store.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
Well, speaking of that Tim Patrick trade made from the Lions,
which opens up the door for our boy, Isaac Tesla.
It is Isaac Tesla season. He was my sleep breather
last week or the week before. Love Isaac teslast game,
but that wide receiver three jump and I believe just
within the past twenty four hours or so, they officially
named Isaac Tesla as their wide receiver three. But we

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knew that was the case when they traded Tim Patrick.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Green Bay Packers. We notable defensive move. But what else
have we learned about the Packers this offseason? Scott?

Speaker 4 (11:19):
What else have we learned? Yeah? Nothing this week except
for signing me Cole Hartman. That's the only Green Bay
thing I can think of.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
All right, that's okay. Matthew Golden's looked really good.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
He has he has, I hear he doesn't drop anything
that comes his way. Yeah, the Micah Parsons trade obviously happened,
and Jalen Reid is still recovering, and Kristin Watson likely
to land on peupy or is on PUP now.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So I have Jones fracture.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, not good. Yep, opens it up, opens it up
for uh, for Golden.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
It definitely does. Let's go to the Texans. Joe Mixon's
on IR and his prognosis for return looks dismal. Summer
speculating that this he might be in a career ending situation.
Nick Chubb, expected starter Damian Pierce is also getting first
team reps. Christian Kirks cemented his role very quietly as
Houston's number two receiver, and rookie Jaden Higgins is going

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to stop start opposite Nico Collins. Next up Chicago Bears.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
The big storyline there from a fantasy perspective, has just
been the camp long acclamation into Ben Johnson's offense, and
you have seen some improvements, or they've spoken to improvements
in the media.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Efficiency is one of them.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
They like the progress that the red zone offense has
shown two minute drills. However, there has been persistent issues
with timing this summer, and I'm curious if that bleeds
into the regular season.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
At this point, you might expect it to.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
That's a big thing for Ben Johnson's offense, which is
predicated on timing. So I think that's something to keep
an eye on with all those Chicago fantasy players.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
I wouldn't be surprised if Chicago's offense is very inconsistent
through the early stages of definitely definitely over learning this. Scott,
how about the Cleveland Browns? What did we learn in
training camp?

Speaker 4 (13:04):
In the quarterback room? We learned last week Flacco as
the starter of this week, we learned Dylan Gabriel will
be the backup and Shader Sanders is third string. The
running back room becomes a little more interesting where they
kept after cuts they kept just two running backs, Jerome
Ford and Dylan Samson. They did over the past few
days sign Raheem Sanders off waivers because there's no real

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news on when Judkins may sign with the team. Apparently
the team is waiting until after the as the legal
stuff is done. Now they're waiting on the NFL investigation
to be done before they offer him a contract, so
it might be a while for him. If even this
season there's even talk of him re entering going back
to college or re entering the not college, but re

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entering the NFL draft.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Next year, we should be staggering if it ended up
going that way, all right. Next up, Minnesota Vikings. Adam
Thielen returned to the team. That gives JJ McCarthy a
viable second receiver while Jordan Edison is out for that
three game suspension and in training camp, McCarthy's mostly good,
big arm pocket poise, some accuracy issues, but rookie quarterback,

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that's going to happen and you'll be your week one
starter as expected. Let's go to the Baltimore Ravens thor.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
In contrast to the Browns, the Ravens kept four running
backs on their initial roster, and a part of the
reason they do that key Tom Mitchell comes back. You
have seen the home run speed. That guy's world class speed,
and you have seen that with him Mitchell coming off injury.
The other two backups, of course, that keep behind Derreck
Henry Justice. How everyone knew that they were gonna do that.
But Rasheen Ali also makes that roster. The other thing

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I want to mention with the Ravens, tes Walker has
had a good camp. Second year wide receiver out of UNC.
He's going to start the season as wide receiver four.
But he would be a deep name to monitor if
there is an injury to one of the Baltimore starting receivers,
and they have old receivers, they also have receivers that
have struggled with injuries in the past, so deeply sort
of a guy there.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Seattle Seahawks Scott.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Very little here, Jalen Roll. They are going to have
packages for him. Apparently with Sam Darnold, I'll be and
they're optimistic for Tory Horton, who has been hurt for
week one. A guy we've talked on the show is
having some upside.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
He does have some sleeper upside in Tory Horton. All Right,
the Pittsburgh Steelers, Caleb Johnson has worked primarily with the
second and third team and often behind Kenneth Gainwell. And
if you remember to b Jon Robinson's rookie year, despite
being picked eighth overall, Arthur Smith really stunted his growth.

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B Jon Robinson topped fourteen carries in his rookie year
only one time in his first ten games Arthur Smith.
So Caleb Johnson might be on a slower path than
many of us would like to see. Let's go over
to the forty nine ers thor.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
A couple of things.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
With the forty nine Ers, they traded for Sky Moore,
the wide receiver from the Chiefs, and they also, of
course traded for Brian Robinson junior. Brian Robinson Junior, we're
gonna be talking about more later in this episode, so
i'll save that for that skymore right now going to
be a backup wide receiver. But the straits of that
wide receiver room, it's only going to take one injury
to force him onto the field. Juwan Jennings has been
sitting with a calf injury that we don't know if

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he's real or not.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
He wants a new contract.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
The forty nine Ers have stated that they will not
trade Juwan Jennings, but that is a weird situation to monitor.
And in the sort of smoke of all this, Ricky
Piersoll has emerged as that team's wide receiver one with
I was good.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
I'm not going to.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
Say that with a he does with a clear wide
receiver one man.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
I caught myself on that one.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, said, all right, your final team, Scott is the Chargers.
What have we learned?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Nashi Harris finally returned to practice and there's a possibility
he plays a Week one, but I would put that
as more as a doubtful. He'll play Week one.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
For the Rams. Matthew Stafford missed the first three weeks
of training camp, but he's been practicing for over a week.
He is on track to play Week one. Kiren Williams
signed a new three year deal. He's been a high
volume workhorse and some believe McVeigh is going to try
to lighten his load year at least somewhat to help
fulfill all three years of Kyron Williams new contract that

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would put Blake Korum into the handcuff role as a
possible option. And Thori, you've got the last two teams,
Chiefs and Raiders.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
With the Chiefs.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
Rashid Rice will not appeal his six game suspension. We'll
see what happens there. But yeah, we're gonna be talking
a lot more about zaber Worthy later in this episode,
so we'll save that discussion for then. As far as
the Raiders, Raiders sign Amari Cooper, as everybody knows that
wide receiver situation, they're kind of weird right now. Jacoby
Myers requested a trade because they haven't given him the

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contract extension that he wants. It does not look like
a trade is imminent. The Raiders have said that they
don't want to trade him, but right now the starting
rotation at least has listed it's Myers trade Tucker Dante
Thornton with Cooper sort of lingering and then Jack Bash
as well.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Sounds great, Thank you very much. Tons of fun. We
just zip through most of the NFL teams of what
we've learned in training camp. When we come back, which
draft personas are right for you. We're gonna go through
a variety of different styles of drafts and you can
figure out the one that ends up with the roster
you like back best. Do you like young players? Do

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you like to slough the running backs? We'll talk more
about that when we come back. Segment number two Fantasy
Football Weekly. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul Charchie and

(18:52):
Scott Fish thorn Estrom with you, guys. Every draft. I
tend to go into my drafts thinking about a will
approach that I want to make a lot of people
believe in trying to build around young players because you
get the you know, if if they hit, you get
value at their ADP. A lot of people don't want
to try young rookies, or you love young players.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
I take too many rookies in drafts.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Well, love my rookies.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
It's the upside downside, right, there's safe drafts, there's do
the opposite drafts. We got we have three different draft styles.
What I like you, the listener, to think about is
which one ends up with the roster you like best,
because that gives you some guidance on how you should
perform your draft. I want to start with a youth

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movement draft. I went through the ADP on every round
and looked at players and selected only players who were
rookies or sophomores. Nobody older, and I and I and
I always gave the rookies the preferential treatment, broke all
the ties with rookies. So this draft, heart, this is
right after this. You're gonna love this. Okay. So and

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a lot of these are plays we've talked about before.
I'm not going to spend a ton of time on them,
but think about the whole roster construction. You'll get a quarterback,
You'll get a tight end, you'll get a couple of
running backs, receivers. Round one, Ash and Genty, no brainer.
Round two, Rock Bowers. There was no tight end for
me to take way up at round two or even
around another another rookie. So I want brock Bowers in

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round two, which, by the ways.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Might be disagree there was another rookie.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
How you think? So, okay, who would you have taken Tyler?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Tyler to take that?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
That's true? Round three Chargers running back Omarion Hampton.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Oh like we love okay.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Round four, Patriots running back Travion Henderson. Okay, so I'm
gonna I'm going for catches there. I don't think Hampton's
going to give us as many catches as Henderson is
going to give us. This is a high catch team.
If in PPR leagues, Genty can catch Bowers. Just at
the rookie record for catches, Trayvon Henderson could be sitting
on fifty the seventy caught passes. Then Round five, Tampa

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Bay wide receiver Amika Egbuka like it okay. Round six
sophomore receiver from San Francisco, Ricky Piersoll I love who
moves into kind of a wide receiver one position with
Juwan Jennings with this CAF injury. Round seven, I went
with the player we've already talked about, Green Bay wide

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receiver Matthew Golden, who's got an opportunity to be day
one wide receiver one. So, especially with Jaden Reid struggling
with this Jones fractor fracture, Christian Watson's out for the
start of the season, Matthew Golden could be high impact
right away. And then my final player is I went
quarterback Denver quarterback bon Knicks needed a quarterback here, we're

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doing eight rounds in this exerciseach Thor, what do you
think of Genty Bowers, Hampton Henderson, Eggbuka, Pearsol Golden Bonnicks.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
I like this roster a lot, and hypothetically we tay
JJ McCarthy a couple of rounds after that finished, But no,
I mean that that's the kind This is a roster
that I love. Yeah, you're shooting for the moon, but
you're doing so intelligently with.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Guys that we know are gonna have roles as rookies. Right,
you can't. It's not pieing this guy.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Right. These are all players that I that have got
a clear pathway to opportunity.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
Every one of those picks I have made in a draft,
I haven't gotten one.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Fault like that. I wish I could. That roster sounds
good to me.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
All right, So there's your Youth Movement draft, Scott. We're
gonna almost flip the script for yours. Yeah, you're going
with proven, safe players. What was your mindset heading into
this one?

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Players that I know are going to score Fantasy points
and have a good, good track record of scoring Fantasy points.
AND's tell me my son actually won a lot of
his leagues early on because he didn't he didn't have
any hype to listen to. He just beame that nice
yeah picked fantasy scorers. I love it, so h I
started on my draft with my wide receiver three, Nico Collins.
I mentioned before, no competition for targets not, you know,

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like his competition is like a non pass catching year
or twenty nine year old coming off a broken foot,
a six foot four second round rookie, a slot receiver
coming off an ir from a broken collarbone, and a
twenty nine year old to tight end in a three
way split, Like it's a whole bunch of shouldn't get

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past catches. In the second round, I went with Derrick Henry.
The last time Derrick Henry failed to score double digit
touchdowns and top one thousand total yards. I had one kid.
I have a second grader. I have one kid at
the time Thor Ragnarok was in theaters the last time
that last time he didn't score double digit touchdowns and
get a thousand plus yards.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I like that as your culture.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
It's been a long time. Hey, you got something else.
You got something else from twenty eighteen or seventeen or
whatever year that was twenty I don't know anyway, I
go to number round three. Josh Allen. Josh Allen's fantasy
finishes the last six years two one, two, one one
six feels pretty consistent. Yes, that feels about safe as.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
He's my number he's my number one rank quarterable.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, yeah, he always ends up there. I know his
scorings are different for different people, but that's your just
basic standards going. Yeah. George Kittle, I got in round
four here. He has been a top four tight end
six of the last seven years. The one year he didn't,
he was on IR for eight weeks.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
So s top four guy every year.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
And you know, with all the tumult at wide receiver,
San Francisco is going to have to funnel extra passes
through George Kettle.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Yep, yep. Round five. I had a lot of options
I liked here. I took James Connor. Very few bicks
backs get his high percentage of his team's running back
touches and targets. As Connor, there are only three games
last year where another back in their backfield even got
five touches only three times.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
He seems to be getting better as time goes on,
and Trey Benson doesn't seem like he's it.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
And let me qualify those games. Forty one to ten win,
forty two to fourteen loss, thirty one to six win, blowout.
It's where he came off. Yeah, yep, averaged twenty plus touches,
scored in half his games, caught at least four balls
in half his games. Round six, I went my safe
pick was Jerry Judy. I'm looking for the eyes on
this to see how safe you think. Oh, I love

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this pick, Okay, I'm in on Judy, Yeah, I was.
I was curious how you'd feel on it. Was the
top ten wide receiver last year over the second half
of the season with terrible quarterbacks. Now he gets Joe Flacco,
who at the end of the Brown season averaged three
and twenty three yards and two point six touchdowns per game.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
Which and Tillman, DeAndre carter Gage, Larva Dade, Yeah, j
CONDI yeah, thrash Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Lack of competition.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Round seven, I had Jacobe Meers until all the trade talks.
I still think he's a safe pick if if he
stays there, because he's basically a five for fifty six
every game guy. But I'm gonna move over to Tyrone Tracy.
Because of the Meyers trade issues, Tyrone Tracy locked in
starter role, may lose some goal line touches, but he

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gets the receiving words work and Giants are going to
trail a lot a lot of Tracy games.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Trips like it.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Round eight, I had Jordan Mason. Is that qualified for
safe because I feel like it's safe. If it's not safe,
I got asking.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
He's the wrong guy, because you know, I've been captaining
the Jordan Mason ship for since March. I think it
is safe, and.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
I believe we agree.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
The team has pretty much removed any doubt.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
They basically said it's a full on split under Aaron
Jones has told you personally at the draft event that
he's he that Mason has gained all the goal line work.
I have him as my safe pick there. If I
had to be another option to be Michael Pittman just
he's he's like one hundred and ten targets every year.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
That makes sense.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
So basically I have Nico Collins, Derrick Henry, Josh Allen,
George Kittle, James Connor, Jerry Judy, Tyrone Tracy, and I
ended with Jordan Mason, and I feel like I'm gonna
get guys like Isaac Tesla and Jalen Coker and guys
like that later in my draft to fill out my
wide receivers, right.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Thor What do you think about that safe draft?

Speaker 6 (27:00):
I think it's solid, and I also think if you
do that sort of thing early, what Fish was saying
is that opens up the possibility to take some of
those shots later on. Then you, yeah, you can do
the high risk later because you've already gotten the embedded
high floor.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
I talk about it all the time. Monitor your risk
profile of your team throughout the draft and find where
you can add risk. And the best places to add
risk are later in the draft, absolutely top and that
brings us to do the opposite. Yes, the premise of
do the opposite is we do not take running backs
for at least five rounds, and then it's a bunch
of running backs after that, because running backs carry the

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most risk. So we begin with Cede Lamb in a
team Dallas's defense looks like it's going to be very
bad and there's a lot of passes. Lamb could go
right back to he was two years ago leading the
NFL in path target.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
I believe the Cowboys defense was last in EPA when
Michael Parsons was not on the field.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
We're gonna get some shootouts.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
There for sure. Then round two Phokan Nakua dropping into
round two, Okay, I'm on board. Matthew Strafford concerns, but
he's playing right now.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
I almost picked him. He's so safe, he's went healthy. Safe.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Round three Trey McBride, your most targeted tight end last year.
Super safe and fits our due the opposite mold. Round four,
I can still get one of the four great rushing quarterbacks,
Jalen Hurts, who's got brings double digit rushing carts down
to the table every single year. And then round five

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is the pick I think I like the least, but
it's got real upside. Tennessee wide receiver Calvin Ridley.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
I love it. I love Ridley this year.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
If cam Ward is just an NFL if he's the
twenty fifth best NFL quarterback, Calvin Ridley's up for a
big spike from where he was last year.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
You're gonna get a lot of targets.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
I think so. So now we turn our attention to
all running backs. Now I only scripted out three, but
to Matt I would really take like four or five
straight running backs at this point. Round six, David Montgomery
on a team that always runs the ball at the stripe,
super sick.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
I considered him.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, Tyrone Tracy just talked about he landed on my
team as well. Round seven, and then round eight also
Jordan Mason for me as well, So Montgomery, Tyrone Tracy,
Jordan Mason. And then round nine, round ten you had
another running back or two in and you've got a
rock solid team.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I think you did something that you picked some very
safe running backs because you punted them for five six rounds. Yeah,
I think if you do do the opposite, that is
probably the move, because if you take high risk running
backs at the end, you might have nothing at the
running back position.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Definitely, right, exactly, and maybe you know you could, you
could go for some higher risk guys. But my first
few running backs are guys I can just put into
my week one lineup. Tyrone Tracy, David Montgomery, not even
think about it. Yeah, right, add some risk of your choices.
Later on, when we come.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
Back, what if weird was wrong, We'll talk about our
biggest stands that we've had all preseason and identify.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Areas where we might just be wrong. When we come
back Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back to Fantasy Football Weekly.

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all of our favorite players, and we talk about the
players were on too. But that doesn't mean we're infallible.
Scott and Thor, I want you to identify some of
the things that you could be wrong about. And you know,
one of one of the things we've always done on
the show is we haven't we haven't shied away from

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the willingness to be wrong. Nobody gets penalized because you
were wrong about anything.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
There isn't a back channel. Or I'm like Thor, you
freaking moron. Why did you have this guy as a
C grade when he should have been an A grade.
That stuff doesn't happen because I want you to be
fearless on this show, and that means you're going to
be wrong sometimes. I want you to give me the takes,
your personal takes that have been on the show that

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could go wrong. Let's let's acknowledge where there could be
some vulnerability with some of our biggest takes. Scott, let's
start with you.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
I think I'm starting with the guy that I've loved
every single year. We've loved every single year in Nico
cons who I have as my widerth for three my
number five overall player, which is way.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
High, higher than everybody else, is.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Way higher than most. He led in so many, so
many categories last year before missing time, target or lack
of target competition in Houston. Run game might be terrible,
so they'll pass more. There's a lot to like about
Nico Collins. But what if the the what if Stroud
been much worse last year is actually more what Stroud

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is than the rookie year. Maybe that regression is legit
and it sticks. What if the defense is so good
that they don't need to push the envelope and pass
and score a ton. What if that offensive line, which
is really bad and might have even gotten worse, cannot
protect Stroud enough to get the ball to Nico. There
are some concerns that I'm wrong on this one.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
You know, I hope you're I hope they're all unfounded.
I love the Collins. I don't know as high as
you do.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Who's there's a lot of concern for the offense for
like four years.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Who's regretted drafting Nico Collins at whatever is average position
has been nobody? Never yes, early adopters on this show
with Nico Collins. All right, thor if we're gonna have
a segment called I might be wrong about that, it
has to start with JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Can you do it?

Speaker 8 (33:17):
Can you even put this in the universe that you
could be wrong about? You're now like sixteen month old
takes on JJ McCarthy's impending greatness.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
I thought a premise of this segment was there was
a possibility you could be rude. Just get everyone knows
what I think about McCarthy and et cetera. Year one
fantasy though, if that one goes wayward as far as
that go, if he ends up performing worse from a
fantasy perspective, and I think there's certainly a path to it, right,

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I mean, like the receiving core for the Vikings was
in such desperate straits that they had to slightly overpay
to bringing Adam Thielen, who's going to start in week one.
You have that stuff going on, and then you have
the thing of, well, they have improved their offensive line,
and while they've improved their their running back room, there
is a stated preference and ideology change of we are
going to run the ball more. We're also going to

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run the ball around the goal line more, and we
will be successful this time right whereas you know, I
mean last season they could not run within the ten
yard line. So even if the offense is saw it,
and that's one of the reasons that we all love
Jordan Mason's that's what they're going to do, and we've
seen a lot of that. But if McCarthy doesn't get
those rushing touchdowns, if they all go to, for instance,
Jordan Mason, and then you have more of a conservative ethos.

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If that wide receiving core, if it takes a little
bit there, he could underperform my Year one fantasy expectation.
But I'm right about him long But all that.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Said, I'm totally right about jaj McCarthy. All right. The
thing I might be wrong about there's going to be many.
I've been down on Devon a Chan all preseason, even
more so now that he's already dinged up. At this
time last year, there was about the biggest talker we
had on this show is can Devon ah Chan play

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seventeen games? Because he had been constantly hurt college in
his rookie year, and then when he did flash it
was it looked amazing, But we didn't know for sure
how he would fare in this in this Miami offense.
But last year he was great. He was running back
six in PPR Fantasy points last year. Maybe that's all

(35:25):
going to repeat itself. Maybe Allie Gordon's not going to
be a factor. They're going to continue using a Chan
at the stripe even though he wasn't good at it
last year. Maybe he's going to catch so many passes
it won't matter.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah. Maybe maybe Tua continues to be captain. Checkdown's second
most in the league last.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Year, right, which which goes right to your well, it
went to John U last year and it went to
Devon a Chane. Maybe it's going to be another situation
much like that. We're not even talking about Darren Waller.
What if Darren Waller stuns us with a big seat.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
He just recently said, I still have Russ to knock on.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
We'll see, We'll wait on that one.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
In NFL history, has there ever been a one hundred
and ninety pounds back that had over three hundred touches
two straight seasons?

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Maybe never. That's a great question.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
I mean, that's my concern with a chain is is
we wanted him to be in the complimentary road.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
That was Dominic Davis, but to try.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
To keep him healthy after what we've seen at text
A and M and what we know of his frame
and last year, they couldn't help himself because that's how
they manufacture offense, right, And so it's like, you can't
you have this toy that we you know, we're gonna
play with this all the time, but at a certain
point your injury risk is so elevated.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
And that's where I'm at with him.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
That's why I don't want to touch a chain at
his current ADP this summer.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
I don't either. Right now, he's my player off I've
got him going off the board at position twenty.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
But if if he does stay healthy for seventeen games, though,
We're going to be wrong.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
We're going to be wrong, We're going to be wrong.
He was like twenty one plus points a game with
two LUs.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yea, yes, exactly. So I mean I'm you know, for me,
I'm a total outlier and I could very well be wrong. Scott,
give me another player upon whom which you may be wrong.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
By the way, Dominic Davis, Houston, Texans too amazing. Yeah,
he was five nine, he was little, two hundred and
sixteen pounds.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
I didn't remember that bag.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
I don't remember that. And he was such a pass catcher.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I don't think of him as a boy bell.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
But he was Aryan Foster.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Oh bake out. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Let's talk slateon too.
Let's just talk Texans. Well, you wouldn't have to talk
for that long. Is another short one that we do
not break ups? Yes, okay. My next one is Travis
Kelcey as I've been bullish on him all year at

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his price, I'm like, I think this could be his
swan song. I think mahomes is gonna help it be
his final great year. He's in the he's visibly in
the best shape he's been in the last three years.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
He was.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
He looked lumbering the last couple of years. We now
know he was getting into groove shape, not NFL shape.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Well, and on that note for just a minute, yes,
you know Kelsey acknowledged the last year the Taylor Swift
relationship was a distraction. Now he's engaged, and I have
worry that he's going to be even more distracted because
he's finally going to be able to consummate the relationship,
and that would be very distracting. Oh lord, he's.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
Got his podcast, he's got his new clothing line, which
just by coincidence, was launched the day after they announced
the engagement.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Total points, all of that, plus target competition, plus father
time being father time, it's very possible he will not
live up to that tight end seven eight. Why I
loved him as his ADP. I'm not saying he'll be
top three. I'm saying at his ADP he could have
a great year.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
He's my tight end seven right now. Thor give me
your next player upon whom you may be wrong.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
So this is one that you and I disagree on,
and that always makes me afraid.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
And I definitely could be wrong on this one.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
Is fading Brock Bauers at his current ADP and the
reasons that I do that, I believe that there he
is likely to see less manufactured touches with now with
a competent quarterback behind center.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
And potentially awesome running back. Yeah, I believe Brock.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
Bauers had one hundred and fifteen targets last year within
nine yards of the line of scrimmage, and you know,
and all that different stuff. And then you also have,
of course the new offensive coordinator and Chip Kelly. You
have a star caliber running back who can catch the
ball as well in Ash and Gentho I think is
going to take some of those targets within five yards
of line of scrimmage, behind the line of scrimmage. And

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then the Raiders drafted two rookies in the draft as
well that they like in Thornton and Bash yep. And
we'll see what ends up happening with Myers. But there
are guys to give the ball to now, right, I mean.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
You want to power positive bower stat sure he had
eight targets inside the ten yard line last year, he
caught zero of them.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
What happens when he catches them?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:42):
What if you?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Right?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Exactly. My optimism for Bowers and I remain optimistic. Is
largely built around the notion that this better offense is
just going to be over the fifty yards.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
That's where it goes.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, that's where I'm wrong, and into the red zone
were often it just more scored if he gets.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
The same amount of and then the touchdowns going a
better offense. Yeah, I'm going to be dead wrong on
that one.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
So yeah, and I know you, I know you love
Brock Powers. Yeah, you were huge all over Brock Powers.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
I'm a huge fan of his game. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Absolutely, just shows how real you are, how the realist.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
My man.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, keeping it real, which we love. The next one
I could be wrong about DeAndre Swift is not a
good running back. Starting running back.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
I think that one.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
And I'm right this part. I'm totally right now. But
here's where I could be wrong. It might not matter. Yeah,
the starting running back in the Ben Johnson led offense
be sitting on twelve touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Especially what with no other healthy backs currently, right, not that.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Many good backs. Yeah, you know, I remember when roach
On Johnson came out or you were optimistic about him
as a big, you know, bulldozing back, and he's still
he's still on roster and everything, but he's not. He's
not somebody who's gonna steal a lot of work. I
don't think. Maybe at the goal line, we.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
Thought, you know, he had worked behind Beijon at Texas,
and we thought maybe there's more dormant ceiling there for
Rowseean Johnson. It just turns out he's basically what we
saw in Texas and those limited looks.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, which and maybe it just won't matter. He's maybe
he's that DeAndre Swift is just the best back in
Ben Johnson offense, and you want to have that guy.

Speaker 6 (41:14):
Yeah, and the other guy, Monong guy. We like the
way that he plays, but he's not a good athlete.
This is what it is, Andy Slow, Yeah, yeah, what
it is?

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Me?

Speaker 1 (41:22):
All right, Let's let's continue for as long as we've
got time here, Scott. Do you have a third player
upon whom you may be wrong?

Speaker 4 (41:28):
I do, Jamison Williams. I've talked abou him a lot,
buying the breakout. His second half pace was twelve hundred
and fifty yards, nine touchdowns. Dan Campbell's been talking a
lot about how this will be a breakout season for
Jamison Williams, but Jamison, might Jamison injury or ped or
gambling or or just straight up progression like more from Laporta,

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more Gibbs catches, Tesla catches. Those could derail that. But
you know, I'm in on the breakout. But there are
lots of opportunities Ben Johnson being gone.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, break it kind of already happened, right.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Yeah, lots of ways it could go sideways.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Okay, Thorpe, is there a final player upon whom you
may be wrong?

Speaker 6 (42:07):
They're sure as And that was a great segue, mister fish,
because mine is on Isaac test Law. As you guys know,
he's my sleeper this year, my planting the flag on
Isaac Teslaw. Yes, and he did get the wide receiver
three job officially when they traded out Tim Patrick. But
it might not go my way, right, I mean, you
still have, of course, a manra Jamison Williams. If he
gets the targets or even more than he had last year,

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Sam Laporti, you'd expect him to get more involved. And
then they have the two running backs they have to
give touches to. They also have the new offensive coordinator.
So what I'm hoping for for Tesla is I've seen
them manufacturing touches for him in the preseason. I can
see that they can that he can get downtown, But
what if Jamison Williams continues to get that and he's
just basically a one, one trick pony deep ball guy.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
He is the one trick pony deep ball guys always
scare me. Yeah, what I love to see. We were
worried at this time last year about about Worthy being
potentially that guy. The Chiefs did a great job of
utilizing him and lots of different parts of the of
the field as the season went on. Yes, and I
think his game has developed some and I think we're
going to talk a little bit more about Worthy a

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little later in this show. It definitely becomes an interesting
player for sure, particularly with Rashid Rice out, and we'll
try to touch on that later in the show as well,
including other parts coming up on the show. Which teammate
would you rather have at their average draft position? Is it,
for example, Kenneth Walker in the fourth round in Seattle
or Zach Charbonnay in the eighth round. That is a

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tough tough call, but we'll figure that one out. And
several more teammates, who would you rather draft. When we
come back to Fantasy Football Weekly, our number two Fantasy

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to be the hardest. The answer to the teammate question
that I found the most difficult was the first one
out of the gates that I've already I've already previewed
twice in Seattle running back Kenneth Walker in round four

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versus Zach Sharboney in round number eight. We begin with
Scott Fish for this one. Tell me which teammate you'd
rather take it, ADP.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I'm going with Charbs. I'm going with Charbs in the
Jordan Mason spot. For me, it wouldn't even I wouldn't
even shock me if he outscores Kenneth Walker this year.
I'm not saying he will, but it wouldn't shock me.
They're likely and sounded like they are going to use
both backs. Sharboney looked in preseason, was great last season
when needed. He's the better pass catcher than Walker, although

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Walker can do that and we've seen now. We didn't
think he could out of college. But we've seen that.
Now you hate to project injury ever, but Walker missed
six games, missed two games, miss six games. Sharpernay has
missed one game in his career so far. So I
have sharps. It's it's a four round discount. There's a
lot of players I like in the fourth round.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Now do you want Do you want to take this
opportunity to brag about your hit rate from last No?

Speaker 4 (46:30):
No, no, I've let you. I yeah, I only got
one wrong last year. I generally only get one or
two wrong in this segment each year, and I've been
booed at the State Fair twice.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Do you want me to boot you?

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Now? You can move you if you want. Well, I'm
not saying I'm not saying I'm going to have that
high of a hit rate this year. This will, of course,
this will be the year I don't after.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I'd be willing to bet that. Through the history of
doing this segment for many years in the preseason, the
under the lower guy has been the correct choice far more.
I think the higher guy I would.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
I'm willing to bet that as well. I think then
I generally pick lower guys.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
So that's like the Eric DaCosta drafting strategy of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I think you're right about that. So all right, let's
go to you thor Seattle running back Kenneth Walker in
the fourth round, Zach Sharbonay in the eighth.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
Well, I feel good about this one because I have
the same answer as Fish. So with that in mind,
I'm feeling good to start. But you know, Fish mentioned
the injury that Walker, and Walker's always dinged w He
had the foot injury this time in camp, and Sharbonay
has gotten a lot of shine during camp. Walker always
struggling with injuries. Now you have a new offensive coordinator
in Clint Kubiak, who liked Sharbonay's game. Sharbonay's expect to

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have a legitimate role right out of the gate, whether
or not Walker's on the field or not. He will
have standalone value as an RB two, huge value whenever
Walker is hurt. But yeah, I think he's knocking on
the door there. And keep in mind last year Seattle's
offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb. Yeah, big part of the reason
he was fired is because they hated the way that
he didn't use the running game, right, I mean so
and and again Kubiak likes Charbonay's game, so I think

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that there's going to be more of a timeshare when
those guys are on both healthy.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
This is I think this is a tremendously difficult call,
because when Kenneth Walker is healthy, he's he's a really
good Basically he does he does things about five players
can do in the league. But the problem is hernia, ankle, calf, shoulder, oblique, calf, ankle, illness,
and now foot. Can't put a fourth rounder behind that
kind of soft tissue history.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Unfortunately, sounds like an average month for a forty five
year old Lady.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Scott wheeled his chair over his own foot moments I.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
Did his rap sheet. Sounds like what was that operation
or what was that game?

Speaker 5 (48:45):
Or you medical thing that?

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Absolutely, to me, this is very close to a coin flip.
But I'd rather be wrong with an eighth rounder than
a fourth rounder, So I'm going Zach Charbonay as well.
All right, our next teammates are tamp a Bay wide
receiver Mike Evans in round three or rookie Emika Andgbuka
in round five. He's all the way up to round five,
which makes this a lotilier that it would have been

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a few weeks ago. We start with thorn eistrom.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
As is apped with a thorny question like this, uh
and this one for me was the hardest one of
anyone that was on this list. And as much as
I like to go with the young players, with how
far that price has come up on Agbuka, I'm gonna
go with the round three on Mike Evans as opposed
to the round five on Igbuka.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
I do think.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
It's more or less a fair price on both, but
because the floor is so much higher with Mike Evans
at that price, I'm going to lean with that.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
I had the same exact answer, the same I've start
not just Evans every point in that you know you're
getting one thousand yards and seven to ten touchdowns under
Mike Evans and Agbuka even later in the season if
McMillan comes back, like, you never know what's gonna happen there.

Speaker 6 (49:54):
They have a billions. Yeah, but you know another Mike
Evans ain't walking through that.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
I love Egbuka. The price, The prices are fair, I
mean everything everything.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
If I've got to take one or the other, Mike
Evans or Amika Guka. I will take the league leader
in end zone targets last year by a margin. We'll
take Mike Evans in round three. All right, we don't
have to agree. By the way, we get to be different.
If we want to Scott, which of these teammates would
you prefer at their average draft position, Detroit running back

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Jamier Gibbs in round one or David Montgomery in round
number six.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Yeah, here's here's where we're gonna flip. Because I know
that you guys are not going to take the same guy.
I'm going with Gibbs in round one. I think he
has the absolute chance to be a league demolisher RB
one type player. I know Monty's gonna get his, But
if the offense doesn't explode every week like it did
last year, the one of the highest scoring teams in
the league consistently, I'm not sure Monty gets as many

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touches and as much scoring opportunities as he did last year.
I think I think they're gonna want the ball in
the hand of their better back and their better pass
catcher more often, and that's Gibbs.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Thorpe. Which of Detroit's running backs would you prefer to
have it their average draft position, Jimmy or Gibbs round one,
David Montgomery round six.

Speaker 6 (51:12):
I promise that the Fish and I did not compare
notes in advance. I'm going with Gibbs here as well,
and it's is not as much of a vote of
confidence for Gibbs as I'm a bit trepidacious with David Montgomery.
Does David Montgomery's role change any with the new play
caller this year?

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Number one is my number one concern. Number two.

Speaker 6 (51:30):
Does the Lion's offense depreciate any with the new offensive
play with Ben Johnson o at the door? That would
be hugely important for a touchdown dependent player like David Montgomery.
I would rather take Jamior Gibbs in round one, but
it doesn't matter who the offensive coordinator is.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
You have to get the ball at Jamior Gibbs just
is what it is.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
I'm on David Montgomery. I build entire do the opposite
rosters around getting David Montgomery in the sixth round. You
know you already know Montgomery's an elite touchdown producer. If
I told both of you right now, Scott Thorpe, Mcgomery's
going to lead the NFL and rushing touchdowns this year.
Totally plausible, Right, absolutely plausible? Yeah, you me sitting on
fourteen fifty touchdowns? Right, absolutely plausible. The lines have already

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in the last three years had the leading touchdown score
in the NFL. So in over the past two seasons,
Lions ranked number one in rushing attempts from inside the
five yard line for running backs. There's no quarterback to
push way touchdowns here. I just feel like Montgomery round six.
I can't say no to somebody who's likely sitting on

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roughly ten touchdowns running back in round six.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
This is the one I'm most likely to be wrong on.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Let's go to our next set of teammates, and it's
a three way San Francisco running back Christian McCaffrey in
round one, Brian Robinson now going off the board round ten,
or Isaac Garrendo in round fifteen, or we start with you.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
As long as it's mid to late round one, I
will take Christian McCaffrey. The San Francisco backup running back
situation so hard to parts, and of course Brian Robinson
is new to the party here, but it's just really
difficult to pars in advance. As much as I would
love to just take shots on guys late because of
the injury concern for Christian McCaffrey. But I think that,
you know, the ADPs are more or less fair for

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those guys. But are you gonna have to draft multiple
backup San Francisco running backs.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
I don't want to do that. I'd rather have McCaffrey
in round one.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
All right, Scott, Which of the San Francisco running backs
do you want at their average draft position? Christian McCaffrey
Round one, Brian Robinson, round ten, Isaac Garndo, round fifteen.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
You know, I thought long and hard about this one.
I was like, McCaffrey went healthy, he's awesome. Brian Robinson.
Then I realized I've watched Brian Robinson play football last year,
and I'm like, I can't do that right. And mostly
I just don't think the other two have any value
unless McCaffrey gets hurt. Yes, So that's my problem with
taking either the two, even in the fifteenth round or

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tenth rounds. So it's round one McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah, I am gonna go round fifteen. Girndo. Here, I
just for McCaffrey.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
If you want someone else in the first I would too.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Somebody else in the first round. I can't, you know.
For me, I just feel like it's a lot easier
to lose your league in the first round than it
is to win it. And I'm not hooking my fortunes
to an aging player with a long history of soft
tissue injuries, who plays for the league's most at police
plays in the league's most injury prone position.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Basically, your call is, I'd rather potentially throw away a
pick than have to deal with McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
If I'm gonna throw away a first tenth or fifteenth rounder,
I'll take the fifteenth rounder with Grendo. By the way,
crazy speed on that guy. So I mean, if Christian
McCaffrey goes down straight line, I think Gorendo's yes, straight
line speed. Okay, let's go to our next set of
running backs, and this is difficult. Scott New England running
back Traveon Henderson in round three or Romandre Stevenson in

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round number ten.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
Fairly priced on both. I still have Henderson in round three.
Sometimes you can see him in round four. Just looks
every bit the part in the preseason, good pass catcher.
They've split him out wide. I know Stevenson can catch
as well. But I think just all the love that
McDaniels had said for Henderson, he's gonna be more of
a part of a growing offense. Uh, He's more explosive.

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It's gonna it's gonna be tough to keep the ball
out of his hand. There is a chance he's more
of a gadget player. But I'd rather take the chance
on round three or for Henderson.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Okay, for which of the new England running backs would
you prefer to have? Is it Travon Henderson in round
three or Ramondre Stevenson round ten.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
This one pushed me to the brink because I've argued
with Travon hens for Travon Henderson in off season and
against Ramondre Stevenson. But with where the price points are now,
with how much this is widen, I actually ended up
going with Ramondre Stevenson here. If they try to use
Trevon Henderson as the bellcow to get to that round
which he gonna need to get to that round three
price point, you were elevating the injury risk. We know

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this Travian Henderson's career and at which point it's Remondre
show again.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
So I'm gonna go Remondre in round ten.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I've made this point many times on the show already,
but I'm gonna make it again. Not everybody listens. Every
minute of our pass, our pass shows why not? Ramont?

Speaker 4 (56:00):
This is back and listen.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
He's really shit. Ramandra Stevenson's going to get roughly half
of the touches in this backfield. This is gonna be
way more of an even split than people want to think. Yes,
Ramandre was a bummer last year, but the whole offense
was just crippled with bad coaching, bad offensive line, bad receivers,
and they've all been better.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Than McDaniels always splits too.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
That's the other thing I'll did I jump in there
or fine, you'll just jump in I'll repeat the stat
I've been saying, oh preseason, and because I think it's
totally valid. Josh McDaniels has been a head coach or
an offensive coordinator eighteen years. Seventeen of the eighteen he's
used a split backfield, and the only one he didn't
he inherited Stephen Jackson, a borderline Hall of Famer, in

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his first year.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
I think he might have flipped me on this one.
Because this one was really close for me.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
It was, it is really close. I'm on Stevenson round ten.
All right, let's go to Washington's wide receivers, beginning with
Terry McLaurin in round number four or Deebo Samuel in
round number seven. Well, this one is thor first.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
I like scary Terry here.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
I think that this is a totally fair sticker price
point on Terry McLaurin, whereas with Deebo SAMIL still want
to see the acclamation with him. He's been the gadget guy,
been manufactured touch guy at San Francisco. Now he wants
to be a real receiver, run down the field. I
don't know if he can do that, and the acclimation
into Washington's offense.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
I'm not sure about devas.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
I don't want to spend a round seven pick on
Deebo Samuel, so I'm gonna go with Terry.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Okay, this one wasn't even hard for me. Honestly, it's
McLaurin in round four. He has every possibility to be
a you know, an Alpha one receiver in an up
and coming offense with a quarterback who's going to be
in his second year after an amazing first year, and
like Thors said, I don't even know Deebo's role, Like,
if that doesn't work, does he go back to that
satellite stuff that they already have Austin Eckler for one

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hundred percent?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Even if we assume Deebo Samuels dropped that spare like
forty pounds he was being burdened with in early summer workouts,
I just I can't touch him at round seven. You know,
the Niners spertly needed big plays from Deebo Samuel last
year with all the struggles they're having offensively, didn't matter,
he wasn't able to step up and be a big

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contributor in that off.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
How much is Jayden gonna trust McLaurin, who had ten
touchdowns in the final eight games last year.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Right, exactly that kind of chemistry. It's I think this
one's pretty easy. All right, We have one left, and
we'll keep this one pretty short. Scott, Which of the
Chicago wide receivers would you rather have? Dj? Moore round four?
Roma Dunza round six?

Speaker 4 (58:28):
This is really fair because I think this is high
for a Dounsa, But I there are so many other
There are so many other players in round four I
like more than DJ Moore, and the talk in camp
is kind of weird that Rome is playing the one.
He is playing the alpha. Ben Jonson's like, I haven't
had a wide receiver like this, and the talk with
more is they're not exactly sure how to play him

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or what to do with him. I don't like that
a couple weeks from the season starting. I don't love
the round six price tag, but I guess I'll take
it because I'm not in love with either.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Okay, all right, rounds I'd rather take. All right, which
of those teammates in Chicago would you rather have? Dj?

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Moore?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Round four? Romadonsday round six?

Speaker 6 (59:08):
I agree, this is super close one. In my personal rankings,
I have these guys twenty three spots apart, which is
two rounds, which is what we're talking about here. But
I'm going to take the cheaper price point on Romadonsay
for some of the reasons that the fish side, And
I also like the report that Caleb Williams and Roma
Duonsay have. They of course, were both top ten picks
in the same draft, and you should see a step
forward for both of them this year.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
Yeah. Quick reminder one to each other.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
I mean, you know, the report is not just they
were in the same draft class, right, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Quick reminder, a lot of people did have Romandonsay ranked
right with even above neighbors for some people, Yeah for sure.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Yeah, some talent last year. Yeah, you had some wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Isn't Yeah, It's not just a random ride receiver two
on the scene.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I'm taking DJ Moore, you know, for this two round difference,
I get a known, repeated, very good receiver. In the
last two years in Chicago, Moore has been wide receiver
twenty three and wide receiver nine. You know, Donsday's upside
is where DJ Moore already is, and his downside is
what we saw last year it was wide receiver sixty four.

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The variance to me for the two round differential, I
think I'd rather just have a proven commodity in DJ Moore.
But this is a tough call. I'll grant you that
when we come back. Three tough questions for our panel
of experts. Which homecoming player will score the most Fantasy
points in his return to his old team? Find out

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Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Tough question number.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
One, and we begin with Scott Fish. Pick number two
is this year's stinkhole? Jamar Chase is going at pick one,
and then after that you could pick any of a
half dozen different players with the second pick. But who
is the right pick at pick number two? Your stinkhole?

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Jelanie Woods Jilli Yes, segment over, did I get it
right to? I guess win?

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Absolutely old done?

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
What do I normally do? I take genty? I take genty?
I think he has every down everything roll with the Raiders.
Bijeon is the normal, safer pick, and probably the right
answer doesn't have the mileage that Barkley does and the
curse of three seventy and the deep playoff run for Barkley.
If going wide receiver, it's probably Jefferson because he's my
number two. Nico is my number three. But I you know,

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fantasy is fun for me, I generally go genty. I
know the answer is probably going to be Jefferson, though.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
So that's all we'll find out. We will find out
the correct answer in a moment. This year's stinkhole is
pick number two, way up at two, by the way,
normally most years it's four, it's five, it's six, something
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
So genty because it's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Well, fantasy football is supposed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
To be exactly you know who's going to be Pick.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
The player that's going to be most fun on your roster.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
The right answers, I'm Jefferson.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Though Jamar Chase is going with the first pick. Who
would you take after that?

Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
B Jeon Robinson? And I would take b Jeon Robbinson
with the first pick in the draft. Down the shretch
hast year when Michael Penix took over, Bijon really started
to take off seventeen or more carries in every game,
but twenty two, twenty two carries or more in five
of the last six. He had over one hundred yards
from scrimmage five of the six games. The other one
he had ninety eight. But he was getting all the
touches and doing really well. And the offense now has

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an identity with Michael Penix back there, so I would
take him with the first pick.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
A lot of it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Honestly, the more real stinkhole is is after chasing Bejeon,
it feels like out there do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
You think so? You think it's two. I think I've
got Bjeon, is the correct answer I at pick number two.
But I do think you can. You can make valid
cases for Ceedee lamb Justin Jefferson would make sense. Saquon
Barkley would make sense, right, And you could go a
lot of ways. You can sell me In brock Bowers
all the way up at number two if you want to.
There's a lot of ways you could go at pick
number two, Bjon Robinson for the reasons you mentioned. Bill'll

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also give you this inside the five last year, Remember
were going to last year, we didn't know for sure
with new offensive coordinator Zach Robinson was going to how
he's gonna run his deployee's offense, and especially inside the
five yard line. No idea. Last year inside the five
for the Falcons, they completed four passes on the year,

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and they ran the ball twenty seven times.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Love to see a couple of those passes are probably Robinson.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
It might have been Jon Robinson is the correct answer.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Yeah, let's just to be real, it's Jon. It's just
I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
But hey, take the players. There's nothing worse I've done this.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
But if you're listening and you want real advice for me,
it's not Jen, it's probably it's Vijon or Jefferson.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
No, I think you gave the best advice possible. Yeah,
pick your players. Pick the players that will make you
love your own roster, and regardless of what you're supposed
to do. Yep, don't go to your your draft room software.
And I look at the players at the top.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
I tell my son this all the time when he's drafting.
If you're looking at two guys, which one are you
going to regret not taking? If you're going to regret
taking someone. Just take them for me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
I hate walking out of a draft with I look
at the roster and it doesn't feel like my rush, right.
It feels like somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
We're a slave to some kind of rankings or some
kind of NDP, or I should have taken it. Yep,
it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
Tough question Number two.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Which homecoming player will score the most Fantasy points with
his return to his old team? Is it Amari Cooper
now back at the Raiders, Adam Feelin now with the Vikings,
Keenan Allen with the Chargers, or Brandon cook Cooks with
the Saints. And for this one, we begin with Thorneistrom.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
So Brandon Cooks can't do that. One Saints offense.

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
Is too trash, just can't do it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
They traded for Vele Keenan Allen can't do that one
slot only receiver in a heavy twelve personnel offense. He's
also cooked. I mean, these guys all are, but Keenan Allen,
I don't love to fit there and run first. They
don't throw a bunch anyway. And then Amari Cooper, he
gets the late start. You just look horrible. Last year
he did and we don't know like He's not a
projected starter right now. You would expect that he, you know,

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will become that early on, but that situation's up in
the air. How about getting a guy who we know
is going to start week what we know, he's going
to start the first three weeks off nothing else, and
he can be the wide receiver three after that in
a really good offense. Adam Thielen. I think Adam Thlen
is the pick here. That's what I'm going with.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
All Right, Scott, which of the homecoming players will score
the most Fantasy points in his return to his old team?
Amari Cooper, Adam Thielen, Keenan Allen, Are Brandon Cooks.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Yeah. When I first when we first talked about this question,
I thought this is a fun question. And the more
I look at him like it's not a very hard question,
though in my opinion it feels like it's deeling. He's
on the best offense of the four. I agree with
uh with Thor on Brendan Cooks's like way forth just
that offense, you can't trust anything. I had very very

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similar answers to him. I worry about the I worry
about Adam Thlen's production being amplified due to eight targets
per game in Carolina, but his hands still look great.
The route running has always been there, always really been there,
and he'll be a pure slot here. He won't like
they have to go outside much. So it's DeLand for me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
All right, this was I think this was a little
bit harder than you guys did. Would you too care
and listeners, would you care to guess or Keenan Allen
finished in people. I knew you're gonna go with that
two years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
He was the one that I might, you know, might
be contending.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
But the Scott two years ago Keenan Allen finished in
PPR points at his receiver what.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Twenty three? I don't know. I have no clue.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Seventeen three?

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
What were one year removed from Keenan Allen being the
third highest PPR point?

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Really, I did not recall that. I remember him gave
a few games where he was like super super peppered
with like ridiculous amounts of targets, but I did not
remember he was that hot, unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
I mean, that's it for Keenan Allen. And here the
reason I'm still using the correct answer though Adam Thlen
is because dude was awesome last year. In the second
half of last season, Adam Thielen was Pro Football Focuses
Wide Receiver eleven. This is when Bryce Young the whole,

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when the whole trajy he was on the field. He
was great Adam last year. Feelan made a couple of
catches last year that there were only like ten receivers
in the league that could make those catches, one on
the left sideline, one in the back of the end
zone that were just awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
His hands have always been insane to run the route work. Yeah,
oh gosh, and so Audi adjustments everything only.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Because you know Keenan Allen's age I just and Adam
Field's actually I think older than Keenan Allen. But with
I think Keenan Allen's got more mileage on him. I
just I leaned towards Theelan. But this was a very close.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Call, dear Lord, I had to look it up. It
is in Fantasy points per game in twenty twenty three,
he was third.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
How about that Keenan Island. I mean we you know,
we think.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
One hundred and fifty targets that he did get Pepper.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
That helps tough.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Question Number three.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
With Rashi Rice's six games to pension. How much does
Xavier Worthies fantasy outcome improve? Is it none? Is it some?
Or is it a lot? For this one we begin
with Scott Fish improve generally.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
I'm a rising tid raises all boats type of guy.
In this case the case defense is good, the scoring
stayed lower last year. They didn't need to put up
massive yards and scores. He bawled out Week one last
year with Rice, but disappeared the next two. It's a
ridiculously small sample size to go on, but where they
I know his first game is an NFL. But Worthy
had six plus targets in his final each in average,

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six plus targets in his final nine games last year, sorry,
six plus in his final nine games last year, to
an average of nearly eight per game, and was only
seeing a few with Rice. I feel like he gets
back up to that eight per game or whatever for
at least the first few games six games with Rice out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
So is that none that's improved or a lot?

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
How much does he improve? Improve?

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Some? I guess it's some, it's some. I don't think
it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
It's four With Rashi Rice's six games suspension. How much
does Xavier Worthies fantasy outcome improve?

Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
A lot big years coming for Xavior Worthy with rah
Rice's situation, it basically for me, removes all doubt that
I had about any questions that I have about Zavior
Worthy's role there. You know, with being out this six
games Worthy last year he scored six touchdowns in the
last six games he played, when you include the playoffs
and you don't include the last regular season gave the

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Broncos when none of the Chiefs starters we're playing.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
It wasn't a fluke.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
They started manufacturing Xavier Worthy the touches around the goal
line that they did for Tyreek Kill earlier. Twenty carries
last season. He's going to get more this year. You're
going to see him around the goal line. Like I said,
quite a bit in the playoffs, the three playoff games
the Chiefs had last year, Zavireworthy had almost three hundred
yards from scrimmage in those ones, obviously the highest of
leverage situations that you can possibly get. And if you

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just look at the final eight games that Zaverworthy played,
pace for well over a thousand yards from scrimmage with
double day touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
Love Zaver Worthy this year.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
I have Xavier Worthy improving some with this only because
I think he was already sitting at a pretty nice spot.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Yeah, with Rashid, the thing is how does his outlook improve?
And I think we already had an okay out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
That's right exactly how you know from how much? So
it's not I didn't vault him up my rankings. I
moved Rashi Rice way down my rankings and let me
spend more time in that. So I think you guys
have already hit on a lot of the sailing of
points in Xavier Worthy. Rashi Rice to me, effectively dead
obviously is a point at which I'll take him, but
it's going to be after everybody else.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
I Guotine leagues, he's completely done.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
In Guillotine leagues, he's totally dead. Rachi Rice dead. You
can't wait six weeks you'll get with a player it's
going to get zero points and Guillotin Lee you get
chopped every week. In standard leagues, I've got a round
ten on Rashi Rice, now get with If you add
in the chiefs week ten by you get three starts

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out of Rashi Rice until week eleven. We are almost
in the fantasy playoffs arts out of him.

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
I can't do that, and your two zab Worthy will
have seized whatever role he's gonna have at that point, right, Yeah,
She's gonna have to acclimate into that on the fly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
So you know, I think Rahi Rice is a great talent,
but I just I can't get three starts until week
eleven out of a player that unless you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
So the answer from you was some on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Okay, the correct answer is some for that one. When
we come back, let's do our sleepers and let's talk
through Dallas at Philadelphia. So plenty to get to in
the final segment of Fantasy Football Weekly. Coming up next

(01:13:03):
final segment of Fantasy Football Weekly. Thank you for joining
us today, Paul Charchi and Scott Fish and thorn Eystrom
with you. We're mid draft right now, yet live drafts going.
We're actually putting together what we think is a great show.
In spite of all of that, it's we're multitasking, right
we are.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
It's draft season.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
It's a fun time and arguably the most fun part
at the time. Today is it stors birthday today?

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Yeah? Yeah, let's go. Let's go, Sneaky old yees sneaky.
I told you that I thought I had you pegging
about six years younger than you are because your virility
is so massive.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
That made my year when Charry, I don't know if
you were being genuine or not, but I'm gonna yeah,
I'm gonna remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
I'm not gonna say feel because that's that is for
you to decide if you want to disclose it. But
happy birth.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
It's for people out there to guess. You can guess absolutely, Rocko.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Just don't go too high to unveil our final sleepers
of the year. We've been doing it all month long.
We begin with Scott fish your and you gave us
Alli Gordon I think last week, which yeah, you know
even better. Now who do you have this week?

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
I'm gonna throw four of them at you because it's
the last week and it's Thors' birthday and I feel
happy give us some President. I'm gonna be quick. Dante
Thornton Junior six y five two oh five U straight
go route wide receiver, but he might be able to
do more. Played one hundred percent of the snaps with
the starters this preseason for wide receiver for the Vegas

(01:14:30):
Las Vegas Raiders, Marvin Mims in weeks thirteen through eighteen
last year, he outscored Courtland Sutton, who were all ranking
way way higher, but right rightly so he's the wide
receiver two on that name, but on that team. But
he is his Fantasy points per route average last year
during that span better than Puka Nikua, Brian Thomas Junior,
Justin Jefferson, Nico Collins. If he can keep doing what

(01:14:52):
he did at the end last season, he's gonna be
way better than his ADP. We got Bishall Tutin. Keep
an eye if they trade Tank Bigsby or Travel CTN.
There are some needy running back teams out there and
those two have been part of talks. He might rocket
up the charts for the Jaguars. Liam Cohen has made
a lot of running backs look very, very good, both

(01:15:12):
in college and in the pros, and Dylan Sampson one
of only two running backs for the Cleveland Browns right now.
Jerome Ford might get the early work, but if they
don't sign Judkins, Samson could be the guy for the
second half of the year. I'm early Ford Ford's let's
say Jerome Ford to in the early part of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely there.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
I just think Samson's better.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
But yeah, I hear you, all right, thor your final sleeper,
I guess or plural sleepers of the week.

Speaker 6 (01:15:38):
Yeah, you know, I I do sleeper. It's always a
rookie or it's a young guy. I'm gonna do the
George Costanza this time and go completely the opposite of
my nature and go two guys no one wants to take,
who've been around the block, the least sexy sleepers that
you could ever have. Javonte Williams first, Javonte Williams clear
RB one in Dallas with no common petition. The two

(01:16:01):
rookies that they took are not good. MafA and jayd
On Blue are not good players. And we know that
that Miles Sanders is, and so Gavonte Williams has just
a stranglehold on that. And while we we don't love
the overall team, now after you trade Michael Parsons, we
do like the offense a little bit and they're going
to be moving the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
The other one even.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
A deeper sleeper Tyler Lockett.

Speaker 6 (01:16:21):
Now this is we're talking are you deep league here
or or you know the flyer at the end. But
Tyler Lockett is the projected he's going to be starting
in the slot for Tennessee. Cam Ward loves pounding the
slot with target Xavier Ristreppo, who did who was one
of the cuts you know down from ninety what wasn't
even like a hard decision for Tennessee last year had

(01:16:43):
eleven hundred and twenty seven receiving yards and eleven touchdowns.
The next highest guy seven point fifty two Jacoby George,
who went to the NFL Combine. That team also had
Elijah Royo, who is a Day two receiving tight end.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
They had Sam Brown who was at the NFL Combine.

Speaker 6 (01:16:56):
Isjia Horton was on that team Who's now going to
be one of Alabama's best receivers this coming season. Damian Martinez,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Kimeron loves throwing into
the slot. That's where Tyler Lockett plays.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
All right, my sleeper and I've got four, So I'm
gonna choose one.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
What you're not gonna list all for everybody else?

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
I'm not well if we have time at the end, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Honestly charge looked mad at us taking multiple to just
last week people are drafting. We want to give him
options from the end of their drafts.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Drake May. I love Drake May. Everything was wrong with
the Patriots offense last year. Already alluded to this once
in the show Worst offensive Flying in Football last year.
Will Campbell looks amazing at left tackle. I love that improvement.
Stefan Diggs brings stability as a functional wide receiver. We
now have coaches who don't suck in New England.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
I'm going to need a new one because I have
Drake May as the top twelve quarterback. I'm totally with you,
but I we need a deeper one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
You need a deeper one than by the.

Speaker 6 (01:17:52):
Way, deeper than He's my quarterback, seven deeper than Tyler though.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Man, I think I have met QB ten. He is
my target. Once I get round ten, I'm like, if
I've waited, he's my target, and then I bear him
with JJ.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
That your deep sleeper. You're deep deep, much deeper sleep
if you had more.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
I didn't mean to interrupt. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Is the wide receiver on the other side of the
field from Stefan Diggs. Kay Shawn Booty, Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
I love this.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Kyshan Bout Nobody told he's the least drafted NFL starting
wide receiver in the league. He was a primo five
star high school prospect. Yeah, sure, who could have gone
to any college in the in the country. Chose Lsu.
Got bounced because he was a moron. He bet on
his own games, got bounced out of the NFL, had

(01:18:38):
to enter the draft way too young. He's still only
twenty three, I think years old in his third year.
And he's your starter in an improving Patriots offense. Kayshawn
Booty last pick of your draft. If you think the
Patriots are going to get better, if you think Drake
may played gallantly like I did last year.

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
Then shake your boot, shake your.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Boot, have your call of Drake Mayot's what quarterbacks I
have him? I think at ten and I thought I
was high.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
I loved that. I'm really high in Drake the rushing.
Nobody talks about his rushing ability, but it's certainly there.
So I love that part of it. And we I've
got a couple other guys that we may go to
in a minute, but let's turn our attention to the
Thursday night game for a minute. Time for an FFW
style preview. Of the Thursday game with letter grades on
every player you care about, slaughter incoming on Thursday night.

(01:19:26):
Usually these Thursday night games are tilted in such a
way that they're designed to be really epic playoff re
matches and everything. I don't know what the NFL was thinking.
Everybody knew the Cowboys were going to be bad.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
I think you can argue their offense might be might
be interesting and fun. Maybe that's what they were thinking.

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
Maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Oh, but they're America's team, Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
Yeah, and I suppose even on defense you get to
watch Mike uh oh.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. It's all it's all bad right now.
Let's but let's talk it through anyway of really salient
news to the Eagles starting center Landon Dickers and who
they thought was. You know, it looked bad that he
would be able to play. He's it looks like he's
going to be able to go, and that's great news
because behind Line and Dickerson it was a major drop off.
I think he's gonna be able to play in this one.

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I've got an obvious A grade on Saquon Barkley. Last year,
Cowboys bottom ten in rushing touchdowns allowed and receiving yards
allowed to runners, So Saque's gonna help you both on
the ground and through the air. Barkley didn't score in
the two meetings last year, but he did roll up
one hundred and sixty seven yards in the week seventeen
mat show with Dallas. He's an obvious A. Jalen Hurts

(01:20:33):
an obvious A. Get this. Hurts in the two meetings
last year with Dallas four touchdowns in the first meeting,
then Hurts miss the game in the second meeting, and
Philly's backup quarterbacks scored four times against Philly. Love him here.

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Aj Brown and DeVonta Smith also come in with a grade.
Smith's little dinged up but expected to go No Micah
Parsons to rush here. He Hurts is going to be
sitting in the pocket. Time to deal. Star cornerback Trayvon
Diggs for the Cowboys just came off the pupp list
this week, so he's either going to miss the game
or he's going to be rusty from his offseason injury.
This backup. His backup is Buffalo cast off kyer Elam

(01:21:17):
or worse worse, Andrew Booth, who might be the worst
quarterback in the league. Boy he get this. Andrew birth
Booth's career passer rating against him one hundred and twenty four.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
It's shocking he's still in the end.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
I can't believe he's still in the NFL. He might
be starting on Thursday night. Unbelievable. I've only got a
Sea grade on Dallas Goddard. Cowboys are an above average
tight end defense last year, although losing Micah Parsons, who
periodically would go into coverage is not great. But otherwise,
Dallas Goddard's played poorly against Dallas, averaging three catches for

(01:21:51):
thirty four yards over the last three years against Dallas.
So I've just got a Sea grade on him. So basically,
it's start all your Eagles. It's on the Dallas side.
It's going to be catch up time and through sheer volume,
there's some plays to be had here. You'll want to
check the status of left tackle Tyler Geiton, last year's
first round pick. He's injured. His status for Thursday is

(01:22:13):
not clear. The depth chart gets real thin, real fast
after getting down to seventh rounder Nate Thomas, who would
somehow have to try to block an eleait Eagles pass
rush like Jalen Carter Nolan Smith, no, thank you. So
watch Tyler Geydon and that could be a pivotal matchup.
I've got a B grade on CD Lamb. I mean,
we love Ceedee Lamb. He faced the Eagles in one

(01:22:35):
matchup last year. They threw to him ten times. He
got twenty one yards on ten passes. I remember the
CD Lamb. That's it. The Eagles are too deep at cornerback.
They've got quinjaon Mitchell, who's great. They have Cooper dej Jjean,
who's great, but after that it's a major question mark.
They go down to either a Dori Jackson or Kylie Ringo.

(01:22:57):
And I like Lamb if he can find that match
up up on the field to maybe have some success
here and again sheer volume in a blowout loss, Ceedelamb
obviously startable, but a B grade. I've only got a
C grade on Dak Prescott. Again, sheer volume makes him startable,
but I hate the matchup. Once Cooper Degen returned healthy
in Week six, the Eagles were the league's best secondary

(01:23:18):
last year. Opposing quarterbacks averaged one hundred seventy four yards
per game against the Eagles. That's it, and other than
a blow up, game against Jayden Daniels. Opposing quarterbacks average
just one touchdown pass against the Eagles. It's a brutal matchup.
The Eagles obliterated Cooper Rush in two matchups last year.

(01:23:40):
Deck didn't play in either one against the Eagles. I
don't like it. George Pickens c grade again, she'd do
a sheer volume. Absolutely startable here, but again he needs it.
I don't like the matchups potentially against Cooper Degen and
Quinnon Mitchell. But if you can get that Kylie Ringo
matchup once in a while, that might be okay. Ringo's
got a big body, but nothing like what George Pickens brings. Startable,

(01:24:02):
but I don't love him here. All the Dallas runners
are on the bench the again, Tyler Guyton might be gone.
The Eagles run defense is fantastic. They allowed the fewest
rushing touchdowns last year, just five zero receiving yards. Excuse me,
you're receiving touchdowns to runners last year a lot? Really, Eagles,
that's it. They rank crazy number two in fantasy points

(01:24:24):
allowed to runners. I can't start any part of the
Dallas backfield for this one, and if the game is
out of control early, they're going to give up run fast. Yeah,
don't love any of that. All right, We've got a
little bit of time too for me to pontificate about
more sleepers potentially. What do you guys think of this guy?
And you've heard this before, but this time I mean it,

(01:24:49):
Tank Bigsby.

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
It wouldn't be a new season without it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
Yeah, because ADP is really really low, which is very
helpful for the guy who could be the starter for
the Jaguars. They like all their backs there apparently, and
Etn when healthy, when he's been healthy, is actually really
been really decent. But yeah, absolutely could be the guy.
And you also have the trade rumors. If he goes
to Houston or Dallas or Cleveland or any of those,

(01:25:17):
then then you're getting a big steel too on that ADP.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Why we trade in Tank Bigsby away, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
Because they couldn't get anything for Travis Etn.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
I mean, man out of this as far as I'm concerned.
You know, you've got a brand new coaching staff in
Jacksonville with a with fresh eyes for all these runners. Yeah,
the best runner on this team is Tank Bigsby, who
finished sixth in avoided tackle rate last year. He is
a power inside runner who brings so much to the

(01:25:46):
table he can't catch. But he's Liam Cohen's Bucky Irving.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
Yep, I was gonna say, let's say this is from
Dave Richard of CBS. I like to give credit when
I bring something like this up. Liam Cohen made Bucky
Irvina star last year. Ray Davis the star in Kentucky,
gave Cam Akers one of his better years, pushed Chris
Rodriguez to his best college stats when he was in
college in twenty one. I like he he makes running backs.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
Calling backs, very very smart guy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
You know, Tank Bigsby's been the best runner in that backfield.
But you know, previous coaching staffs just didn't. You know,
they didn't, I think, didn't give him server.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
I'm I like Tank Bigsby.

Speaker 5 (01:26:27):
That offense is gonna be a lot better. And why not?

Speaker 6 (01:26:29):
Why why not buy the lottery ticket on the cheapest one. Yeah, right,
and one of them is going to hit. I'm with
you on this, Tank Bigsby, All right, bring in the tanks.
I got one more sleeper for you. Since we've still
got one minute left. Courtland Sutton has top six seven
eight wide receiver potential inside him. Absolutely, and he's going
off the board.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
I'm gonna say roughly wide receivers fifteen, sixteen seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
I took him as my wide receiver one in the
league where I punted wide receiver for a few He's
like a six round pick seven six.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Six round.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Yeah, he could perform like a second round absolutely, absolutely,
And after.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Bow Nick started cooking in week six, right, so you
did that that bad first month or so. After that,
Courtland Sutton averaged nine targets six catches a game, And
from week six forward last year, Suddon finished his wide
receiver twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Yeah, what if Bonex is better as a sophomore that
thirteen through eighteen I mentioned where Mims outscored him, scoring
seventeen a week. Cortland Sutton scored fifteen a week. Yes,
they're both good.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
They were both good. Only Mike Evans averaged more end
zone targets per game than Courtland's.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
Cortland Sun's always been an end zone target guy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Yes, he's got the big body the box. Players out
absolutely love him, absolutely love him. If you haven't tried
a guillotine league, be sure to do that. Guillotine leagues
dot com. It is the funnest, freshest way to play
fantasy football. You know a little bit about how it
works already, no head dead matchups. Every week, the low
scoring team gets cut and all the players go to
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All you have to do not finished last ten leagues

(01:28:01):
dot com tons of fun. You'll love playing there, and
we'll talk to you next week. Great time. I have
a great time intoll of your final drafts, everybody, Bye bye.
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