July 29, 2022 • 35 mins
It's officially training camp hype season! Scott and Brian discuss all the fantasy relevant topics from the first week of camp and also Zack Moss.
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here's your host, Paul. Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. This
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is not Paul Charchion. This is Scott Fish hanging out
ian Brian john in Uh, Paul Charchion's palatial estate here
with Brian Johnson. Yeah, I am Brian Johnson. Also not
Paul Charchi and charge will be back next week. He's
on the road right now making some training camp visits,
gathering some intel for all you loyal listeners. And this
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is our last off season show. The off season, well, yes,
it's not the off season in the NFL. Now, you
don't call the off season the off season when training
camp is going. Yeah, there's really no off scene in
that in the NFL anyway. So but starting next week,
the long form shows are back. I love it. I'm excited.
This will be the This is the last kitchen recording,
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the last kitchen will be in the studio for the
big show starting next week. It's like the lost files
or something like Paul Charchi in the Kitchen recordings. Yeah,
I've been I feel like I've been here for like
a week. I just got here that they lowered the drawbridge.
I drove across the moats. You don't see a lot
of moats these days in the United States. I just
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got finished feeding the gators, so they weren't too riled up.
I hope gators. What are we What are we talking
about today, Scott? Uh, We're just gonna go over some
of the early training camp headlines that have that have hit. Um.
Everyone's in the best shape of their life. Everyone literally everybody. Uh.
Allen Lazard is a is a Hall of Famer, Derek
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Carr is a Hall of Favor future Hall of Famers.
Nothing but good news. Uh, nothing but good news, except
we should start in Tampa Bay. Kind of start in
Tampa Bay. Bad news. Not not a not an offense
well he's an offensive player, but not a fantasy player.
But All Pro center Ryan Jensen looks like he's probably
done for the year. Huh. Yeah, that's that's not good
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for for that line. They've they've been building up a
lot of a lot of stuff. They're going and grabbing weapons.
You know, it is it is a hit, but you know,
hopefully they can It's early enough that maybe the offensive
line can gel by the season. Yeah, and I mean
it's Jensen likely done. And from last year, they're they're
gonna be missing Ali Marpette who retired and uh, forgive me,
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I'm forgetting his name off top of my head. But
another starting lineman is now with um the Bengals. So
it looks like going into the season, the the Bucks
are gonna be down three linemen from last year. So
that's that's concerns me a little bit for Leonard four
Nett and uh, of course Tom Brady and his pass catchers.
And speaking of tom Brady's pass catchers, think about the
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the Julio signing, hate the number uh signing. Is he
gonna play tight end? You think? You know he he
actually was fairly okay when he played and when it
was fully healthy. Over the last two years, he's just
missed a lot of games and that's his biggest bugaboo recently.
In fact, he's had those lower leg injuries his whole career.
You know, so um that that's that's the concern with
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Julio is the is the injuries. They the Temp Bay
Buccaneers also uh said they did not put they cleared. Basically,
they cleared Chris Godwin, So he's not going to be
on pup. He's gonna actually sounds like he's well ahead
of schedule. Um and I'm still not convinced he's gonna
be ready week one, though, we will see. I think
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one thing bringing in Julio does is they can take
their time with him a little bit. Maybe he doesn't
start on the PUP, but maybe he's back in a
few weeks. In My main takeaway from the whole Julio
signing and then this Godwin news was just how quickly
everyone has dismissed Russell Gage a couple of weeks ago.
I'm not either. I mean, outside of Mike Evans, I
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still based on ADP, Julio's ADP is spiked. Gauges has
fallen Godwin's. Godwin was always getting drafted before Gauge even
before this news. But uh yeah, based on ADP right now,
I mean I like Russell Gage more than Julio Seeson
long I'm not convinced. I mean, Gauge has eight touchdowns
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over the last two seasons. Yea who he has for
Gauges twice as many touchdowns, he's like twice as young.
Here's here's not thing. Here's the really the real thing
with Gauge is cost. Like I think he's gonna be
He's gonna have good games this year. He's probably better
and best ball as Hill have his spike weeks. Yeah,
but I think the big thing with Gauges his price
was starting to get to the point where you're you
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started to get a little more on the fence. But
now as prices dropping again, and that's what that's when
you want to buy on him. And lastly on the Bucks,
we briefly mentioned him and talking about Jensen and Leonard Bournett.
Yeah not fat. Yeah, he looked pretty good. Yeah, rumors
of him being to sixty a few weeks ago reported
into camp at two forty four, which for the size
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guy he is, like he's he's just a big dude.
I think he just like went to Taco Bell for
one last blowout that the day before. He got weight
in that day. But he's shed all that water weight,
so not too concerned. We'll see that the b M
I of Wondard four Nette, Yeah, they we'll see there.
There always seems to be a little bit of sharing
down there. But Ronald Jones gone, Rashod White in GEO.
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Bernard should be healthy this year. They they've they've got
they've got depth behind Fournette, but he should be mostly
the carrier there, next next guy we want to talk about.
Let's stay in the division and talk some a couple
of Saints talking points. I think Micky Thomas is the
key one here, uh present from day one of camp
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running routes. They're not no one's in pads, but he's
in uniform. Uh. He looks like he'll be ready week one,
and mitt no one was convinced he was gonna be
ready week one all summer long on winter. He was
getting drafted outside of the top thirty wide receivers are
right in that range. But if he is fully healthy
going in to the season, where do you have him think?
I mean, I think you got to treat him as
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a top fifteen option. You could. I I don't know
that I have him that high, and I don't know
how much I believe it just yet. I mean, he's
a he's about three years away from good fantasy production
at this point. A little over to. It's been a while,
but back then we were arguing him as the number
one overall pick in fantasy football, and I wasn't. I
wasn't too convinced by some of the earlier videos. This offseason,
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we will see I do kind of like Chris Olave's
skill set with Jamis Winston. Personally, I'm not gonna rank
him over Michael Thomas probably, but I'm I'm probably still
avoiding Michael Thomas to pay if he's going that high. Yeah,
Winston is a guy if you're gonna wait on quarterback
in your draft, who was very intriguing to me. Now
with Thomas healthy, you just mentioned a lot that they
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stud rookie. They signed Jarvis Landry, Alvin Kamara, who from
what I'm hearing, I don't think he's getting suspended this year.
That's That's what I'm thinking too, because the league is
not going to do anything until the matter is settled
outside outside the lines, right, it does, and it doesn't
seem like any kind of you know, conviction or settled
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whatever is going to happen until after the football season.
So Jamis Winston, I mean, he's got some weapons, he's healthy.
It's a good late shot. He can throw a lot
of picks. Of course, does feel like one of these
years that in one quarterback leagues you almost don't even
need to draft one and you can pick one up
after they're happen. Super flex leagues there they're it's deep.
It feels like a lot of great late options like Winston,
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I like Davis Mills and Jared Goff is kind of intriguing.
Maybe Daniel Jones will talk a little more giants in
a minute. Sure, how about we do that now we
talked to enough Michael Thomas. Let's talk about say Kwon
Barkley looking incredible, making some incredible catchet like their highlight reel. Right,
but like if they quam Barkley is last year. Honestly,
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that ankle injury was kind of a fluke deal, you know.
Oh yeah, he just steps he stepped on his teammates, yeah,
and twist his ankle of the side and got the
big bulge that we all saw the pictures of. Uh
if he's a percent back, huge pass catcher in that offense. Um, yeah,
Barkley's a guy I've talked about a few times over
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the last month or two as a great bounce back candidate.
Last year, it was his first year back from the
torn a c L or m c L, and running
backs generally take a couple of years to come back
from that, two years come back from that. So this
will be his second year and last year that the
Giants arguably the worst offensive line in the NFL. They
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made a significant investment in the old line in the draft.
So Barkley, I've been doing Best Ball draft since February.
Scott and I remember he was going, uh, mid to
late third in the winter, and how he's he's climbed
up to early second, and I think he's once preseason
games start. He's not gonna play a tone in the preseason.
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But he reels off of seventy eight just one highlight
play in the in the game, He's going to be
back in that. Yeah, wait, first mid first round, Conville. Like,
right now, I'm starting like Barkley more than Nag Harris.
Who's going before? Do you do rankings? Where do you
where do you have? I have him at RB eight
or not RB nine, I think right now, which is
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higher than he's going. I think he's going about RB
twelve or so. I do them in my head. I
don't publish any I should, I wish I did. I
need to do that, but uh yeah, I feel like
he's going too late and I'm going off course a
little bit here in Dalvin Cook going too late. But
but if so, if I'm in the late for have
a late pick in the first round, and I'm going
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running back, running back Cook Barkley all day, I've been
doing that a ton. I love this RB ten. We
basically have our nines and tense flipped. So, um, he
has him at and I have him at nine. Certainly
ORB one upside if you say absolute RB one upside,
and you're getting him in the third in a lot
of cases sometimes the fourth event, which is that's pretty late, honestly. Um,
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let's let's go on to do we want to talk
about the camp battle between Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald,
which is looking kind of gross on both ends. Yeah,
that's not too fantasy relevant. Really, how do you know
that Baker and d J. Moore have been showing some
chemistry early on in camp? But I mean it's really
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about who benefits mostly when it comes to McCaffrey d J. Moore.
Let's let's skip it. It's it's not super super fantasy relevant.
Let's go over to the Chiefs. The Chiefs lost Tyreek Hill,
who's going to replace him? Juju is making great plays,
sky Moore is the TACA camp. These guys fantasy was
super fantasy relevant. They've been making h and again, everyone's
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been making great plays in camp so far. Everyone, I'm
super excited to see any kind of football football action.
But you know everyone, I was really concerned, Uh, not concerned.
But let's put it this way. Before Tyreek was traded
to the Dolphins, it was josh Allen Patrick Mahomes In
every draft I did, whether it was super flex or
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one quarterback, they were going in that order. They would
go earlier and super flex drafts. Of course he'll gets
traded all of a sudden, I'm seeing Herbert going before Mahomes,
h Lamar Jackson. A lot of times, Mahomes is kind
of like he's still a top five quarterback based on
ADP and it was all because he lost Tyreek. But
now I'm looking at sky Moore and Jujus looking good.
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I like MVS. Now I'm starting to think like it's
it just won't be centered around one person. It will
be spread out more. And of course Kelsey is still around,
So I think people got overreacted a little bit to
the loss of tyreek Hill. I think the Chiefs are
gonna be just fine. And uh, Mahomes is still the
best her back in the NFL. Yeah, talent wise, talent, Yeah,
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there's yeah, there's there's that top four or five that
just like you can, you can flip around however you want,
and I'm going to be fine with it. Even in
Scott Fish Bowl, I have seen Mahomes was sliding to
the QB four QB five range. So if if he
falls to you in your drafts that far, I think
it's a gift at this point because I'm not Tyreek
Hale will be missed, but not not as much as
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I thought initially. Know what do you think about the
reports of sky More potentially taking some They're saying, uh
that everybody wants to be the next whatever works last year. Yeah,
they've been showing that those packages in practice so far.
And Andy Reid said something along the lines of him
having like running back legs or something like that taking
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plays in the backfield, Tony taking place from the backfield
debot and uh sky More and Curtis Sam But there
seems to be a lot of them this year that
they're like, this guy is going to do this because
creative guy, right, And we saw Tyreek Hill take some
carries out of the backfield, so I'm sure we'll see
some of that from sky more. But uh yeah, everyone's Scott.
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It's gonna be tough to get over a wide receiver
wearing the number twenty four, But since it's my favorite number,
kind of groovy jr. Uh, I'll allow it, and I'll
probably overdraft him someplace. I I want at least a
couple just in case, because there's a chance he leads
leads down the rookie wide receivers in receiving yards this year.
Let's talk George Pickens. Let's stick with rookie wide receivers. Uh,
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George Pickens Uh with the Steelers, of course, nothing but
good things coming out of Steelers camp. For those unfamiliar
with George Pickens, uh tour his knee up last spring,
he would have been the He's out of Georgia. Basically,
in my mind, would have been the top wide receiver
taking if he did didn't stuff with this knee injury
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last spring. He came back last college season, played the
last three or four games, um looked pretty good. But
of course it's coming back from a major knee injury.
But he looks healthy now. And uh, I think the
Steelers got a steal with Pickens, And of course Jante
Johnson is still wide receiver one there. But I'm thinking
I like Pickens more than Chase Claypool going into this year.
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Who Claypool getting drafted before pickings? So I think if
you incorporate Price, I can definitely see that he's gonna
get on the field a decent amount. But the wide
receiver three in Pittsburgh just it has been so boom
or bust for so many years, and it's you know,
it's the same coaching, it's different quarterback, but it's everything
so so much the same there that Um, Yeah, to
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be determined if I really like Pickens is a really
great high upside late pick, just because the immense amount
of talent and we've already seen some of those you know,
one handed catches that he made, especially early in college. Um, uh,
it camps so far, So I take it back. I
think Jamis and Williams would have been the top wide
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receiver taken, but he also suffered injuries. National championship game.
But George Pickens, I think we're not sold on Jamison
Williams of the Lions of course being ready, Uh not
at all. Pickens like it will be ready and he
looks ready for the league right now. But like you said,
it was all concerned his quarterback really right, Yeah, and
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like all the concerns, like nobody thought Pickens wasn't talented.
It was just you know, off field and maturity and stuff.
You know, if if he comes to work as a
bro like yeah, so, uh, we got some more things
we want to talk about. That's happening camp so far.
But we're going to take a quick break. You gotta
pay the bills. Gotta gotta pay some bills. Well, does
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charge need to pay the bills like yourself with just
sell off some of those gold statues that are in
the yards, maybe their gold statutes of himself. The water
is pouring out of it. It's pretty There's one of Scraps,
there's one of Pepper, the other dog. What's the other
dog to Pepper? Scraps and Pepper. All right, we're gonna
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take a break. We will be right back in a minute.
Welcome back to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm your host today anyway,
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Scott Fish sitting across from me as Brian Johnson. What's
going on? We're co host. I don't even I'm not
your host, I'm your co hosts Brian Johnson. Team in
this tag team? In this one like the what was
your favorite tag team back in the w w F days?
I know, what's the w w E Gosh, so many
good ones. Probably having Nash Scott Hall tag team that
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was a little later than I was. More than you watched.
You were into wrestling a little later on in life
than I was. Remember the Rockers? Okay, no, no, I was.
I was in wrestling at a young age. I just
don't I don't remember the names as well. You know,
they didn't have a name, but there was Hack Saw,
Jim Duggan and who did he team up with? Anyway,
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we're getting off topic. Yere off topic. Now we should
know this stuff is he's wrestling all day? Think, uh,
let's let's go over to Buffalo where Isaiah Mackenzie is
the absolute talk of camp. Right now, how do you
feel about zam Mackenzie? They just they just signed Crowder
to take that role and Mackenzie is the one stepping
up apparently. Yeah, this was like the first like bombshell
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fantasy relevant story out of camp was Isaiah Mackenzie running
with the ones. Like you said, the Bills signed Jameson
Crowder in the off season, and Crowder was a guy
going you know, around eleven twelve ISS in drafts and
Mackenzie was going undrafted it basically on the last round.
And now that gap is I don't even see Mackenzie
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drafted any of my drafts I've gone so far but
before this, right, But I'm not overreacting too much. Um,
of course, cold Beasley no longer there, but you know,
Beasley was very, very viable option in fantasy football for
the last few years in that offense. So it'll be
interesting to see who uh gets the majority of work
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out of the slot for Buffalo. But it's gonna be
way more of a competition than initially. Josh Allen does
throw the slot a ton, but was it because of
what he because he had Beasley there, or or was
it you know, their their scheme. They also seemingly with
the addition to James Cook and and the fact they
went after j D. Mckiss i and think things like that,
they seemingly want to get the ball to the running
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back in space as well, so that it's gonna be
interesting what happens behind Diggs there. Yeah, and uh yeah,
I mean everyone's expecting a big bump in production from
Gabriel Davis, Dawson Knox uh of course popped off last year.
He's a red zone threat. So speaking of Digs, I mean,
one of the best wide receivers in the league, of course,
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but there's just so many feed right now. Um, I'm
a little worried about Digs when it comes to just
you know, his fantasy. Potentially he's going to be a
threat on the field, and his upside is like he's
still probably gonna finish right around the top twelve wide
receivers even with the downtick. It just may not be
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a wide receiver one overall upside like it like it
was a couple of years ago. To hit that like
a hundred and fifty target mark might be tough. I
think I think the main news here is just the
way Mackenzie's playing with the ones, the way he's standing
out and the flashes we saw last year. He's draftable now,
He's you shouldn't ignore him now. You should probably be
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taking that dart throughout the end. And what people need
to be also concerned with when it comes to Buffalo
quote unquote on concerns. They've got a great defense. Uh,
it didn't show in that the last game against the
Chiefs in the playoffs. And they're white and a few
other people, but they're not They're not going to be
in a ton of shootouts. Are probably gonna get up big.
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They're in division. Ones are going to be interesting with Oakland, Uh,
the Chargers and the Chiefs, those will be some interesting ones.
But you're right, their defense is actually it's actually pretty good.
So yeah, this I'm really just talking to Digs. I
don't know. The price tag seems a little heavy heavy
for me, Diggs, and then Gabe Davis is going pretty
early for me too. But Gave Davis went from a
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guy that everybody loved but that but he was going
at a reasonable price. And now, like I I mentioned
this on another show the other day, I saw Gabriel
Davis Boys wide receiver fourteen in a draft and I'm like,
that is just ridiculous. Well, there's no greater recency bias
than plus yeah d four touchdown game which was what
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Davis did uh in that loss to the Chiefs in
the divisional round last year. Before we leave Buffalo, we
would be remiss if we didn't bring up Zack Moss
on this show, a favorite of the show. But I've
seen little Steve. I've seen a little Moss I had.
We're talking about a guy who was inactive healthy scratch
multiple times last year. Is is taking snaps like splitting ones.
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That's come on, we we joke on the best shape
of their life narrative. But he did look like he
was in good shape. And it really, it really feels
like one of those those healthy scratches put something in
his mind that he's like, Okay, I got I gotta
step it up. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't call u
Zack Moss a dead cat just yet. Honestly, I think
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this makes everything worse. I think James Cook had some
decent PPR upside. I think like as a late flyer,
he doesn't he never he averaged like seven touches of
game in college like he's he's not He's not gonna
be huge, but he would have some weeks and Signletary
would have some weeks. This just muddies the field even
more for me right now, the story is the only
Bill you can feel confident in his Josh Allen there's
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just way too when he mouths defeat in Buffalo. But yeah,
we shall see what happens. So over to the Packers, Uh,
Allen Lazard being talked up by his his his quarterback
Cameron Poe. Uh Watson hurt Romeo Dubbs. You seem to
like I coming on the draft from like this is
a nice deep threat that might have some best boss
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Spike Weeks. Uh, what are you liking over there? For
the wide receivers in Green Bay? Yeah? You mentioned was
for those who don't know. Aaron Rodgers when asked about
his thoughts I'm going from um Allen lazarread. He's like, well,
I'm going from one Hall of Famer to another, Yeah,
which was in response to Davante Adams who said the
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same thing about going from Aaron Rodgers to Derek Carr,
going going from one Hall of Famer tune. Now, Lazard
had eight touchdowns last year, minimal targets and like you know,
you play the extrapolation game, He's gonna have like twenty touchdowns.
But again, he had Davante Adams are taking the heat
off him. He was facing single coverage every snap he
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was on the field. I doubt Alanzar has ever been
double teamed his entire life. That might happen now, So
we'll see if he actually can be the guy. I'm
not fully convinced. We shall see, but uh, that talk
is uh. I've seen al Moizard's ADP rising over the
last month or two. He's getting a little price. I've
done drafts for him and Watson go in a very
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similar area, and I feel like Lizard is just so
much safer like Watson. For me, is like he played
at a lower level and he should have been He
should have been able to do way more than he
was given his you know, he's kind of a physical
you know beasts. So I think Watson is a huge
question mark. I think he could he could like his
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range of aut comps is huge. He could completely bust
or he could be the Packers wide receiver one. I
just feel a lot safer with Lizard. Yeah, and Aaron
Rodgers tends to trust people he's played with before and Watson.
You you referring to Christian Watson, of course, when when
drafted by the Packers in the early second round. Uh, huge,
huge bumping value. But now he's in danger of missing
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some He's not practicing right now. He had a little
a minor knee procedure done. They said he probably could
have played through it, but they figured why why risk it?
But it might be a slow start for Christian Watson,
So I think we're gonna see him slide down the
draft boards a little bit these next couple of weeks.
And Romeo Dubs, I wish he was Dubes d O
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U B S. I guess that's Dubs. Green Bay has
always got weird pronunciations with their players last names, going
back to Rhett Favre, but Dubs uh could be a
steal for both Green Bay and fantasy managers willing to
draft him. He's good in camp so far, but again,
these guys are running around in short shorts and no pads.
So I'm not gonna be too much into this Dubs
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Dubs hype just yet. Yeah, stay tuned for next week
when we talk about training camp battles. Once again, speaking
of hype for what feels like the third year row
Paris Campbell sleeper seasons, not even third, it's every year
like when he came, when he was drafted, like he
was gonna grow with Andrew Luck. Remember, like it feels
like it's every year this this comes up. But I
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still kind of believe a little bit. Yeah, I know,
I'm sure Church believes. Charge has always kind of been
a Paris Campbell fan, but uh, you know it was
we're talking Colts now, and uh when Colts wide receivers
Michael Pittman the clear wide receiver one and forever, not forever,
but ever since the draft, it was Alec Peters and
those were the only two Colts receivers I saw getting drafted.
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But then as we got into the spring, earlier in
the summer, Paris Campbell was healthy, and now that gap
has closed big time. Where now I've seen some people
take Paris Campbell over Alec Peters. I don't know. I
don't want to get hurt again by Paris Campbell. I'm
I'm resisting unless like he's falling to me in the
last round. I did a show about six D eight
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weeks ago that I talked about Paris Campbell in a
sleeper for this season, and I'm pretty sure that's why
he's now gay draft. No, I'm just kidding. I hope
he stays healthy, but he's got I gotta see it
from him before I'm gonna be willing to take him
as a wide receiver four or five options for me
on any of my fantasy teams. It's weird to to
remember that t Y Hilton is still there. Nobody has
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talked about t Y Hilton this entire offseason. It feels
like t Y Hilton, he's got to be what thirty
I read it, I read I read a thing the
other day. He'll still be in the max Um, probably
just enough to annoy fantasy owners because he won't be
playing there, because you'll be playing other cult starters. All right,
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this this was the I'm gonna call it a scandal,
the biggest scandal in preseason so far. This is this
is this is fun. This isn't fantasy relevant. Russell Wilson
shows up first day of camp. First off, he was
in like a vehicle straight out of mad Max Fury Road. Yeah,
that was. And you could tell he's never taken this
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thing off roading once because the tires were like Spotless's.
That was. That was interesting and interesting vehicle. But he
jumps out of his tank. That probably costs like four
dollars to fill up right now, and that was just
for the drive to the stadium wearing his own jersey,
Broncos jersey, and it's a throwback jersey. I get they
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wear throwbacks jerseys, but I don't even know where to
begin with this. People he's wearing the same number number
three at that Drew Lock war. And people are like, oh,
he's given throwing some shade at Lock. But you can
see a little badge because there's a throwback jersey his
name in the bottom left. But have you ever of course,
players wear their own jerseys when they play or in practice,
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and they wear him in commercials or like they go
to a children's hospital or something like that. But just
to rock your own jersey like that is so off putting.
This guy. He is a strange bird man. He doesn't
seem like a strange burden. But we just had to
mention that. And you're not if you're not talking wearing
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his own jersey, you're not having real camp. I don't
know that I've I've seen that too much, Like I
feel like I would have remembered had I seen that.
But and Aaron Rodgers shows up like like Cameron Poe
out of con Air. He uh, nobody? He now who
was never mind? Yeah, let's he didn't do the proper
headshake and kind of though he tried with like slicking
(28:32):
his hair back, but he didn't like pull the full
Nick Cage effect. But he did a pretty good job.
Let's go over to the San Francisco forty niners. Maybe
this is the last one we talked about. We're about
a half an hour, and so why not Brandon Brandon
and who apparently has taken a big step. He's starting
to be more of a leader out there. Um, he's
not going to get the doghouse treatment he started the
season with last year. He he you know, rounded out
(28:55):
the season fairly decent. Um. How do you feel about
you because like it sounds like everything from majurity, maturity,
to work ethic to you know, plays, it seems like
he has taken that step this year. Um. And and
he's on a good page with Trey Lance. Yeah, he
looked amazing his rookie year in and like you said,
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last year, he wasn't even really playing when the season
started and it wasn't because of injury or anything like that.
And you're just like Oh my god, what's happened to
Brandon Aiyuk? But then he came came on strong. Uh
his last season wrapped up, So yeah, I'm I got
high hopes for him going into this year. It's really
just a matter of, well, there's a there's a few matters.
(29:38):
Is Deebo Samuel are going to be back? It's seeming
like he will be now. Um, I don't think that
really hurts Auk. It might even help him a little
more than hurt him. It's really it's Trey Lance ready
to be a pro quarterback, and we're gonna find out
there there they're either gonna cut Jimmy G or trade him.
Doesn't seem like anyone really wants to trade for Jimmy
G right now. So it's Trey Lances team. It's really
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just a matter of how accurate Tray Lance is now
involved UK is in this offense. Of course, like we
just said, Deebo Samuel, George Kittle a threat San Francisco
loves to run the ball. Tray Lance is a very
mobile quarterback and I have a lot of design runs.
So that's that That's gonna be the question, you know,
young quarterback, how many like we are valuing all these players,
(30:23):
this fantasy assets, how many he can can he truly
lift up on a consistent week to week basis. But
the talent right now is there to justify the hype
for AUK. But I'm concerned that the volume won't be there,
That's the thing. So I'm kind of off a this
year so I can like see the volume justify the
ADP basically if he if he gets a targets, I'm
(30:49):
in all day, but I don't know if he's It
does feel like you're concentrated offense though. If if there's
only four fifty attempts coming from tray lance, which should
be pretty dang low. Um I could I could see
a hundred ish going to the three mains. So and
John Jennings is the wide receiver three, but he was
utilized last year. There'll be other targets, but I feel,
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I feel, I feel like it will be concentrated to
those three at least for fantasy output. Alright, well, I
think I think we hit all the let's call it,
let's let's call it right right around thirty minutes because
we gotta do two hour shows coming up. I'm excited.
I'm actually excited for that. It's not got to do that.
I I love getting together with two co hosts. You know,
(31:32):
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actual preseason games. Charch Charge will be back hosting. I
think you and Matted on the first show. I think
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Paul Charchi and charge will be back next week. He's
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This will be the This is the last kitchen recording,
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the last kitchen will be in the studio for the
big show starting next week. It's like the lost files
or something like Paul Charchi in the Kitchen recordings. Yeah,
I've been I feel like I've been here for like
a week. I just got here that they lowered the drawbridge.
I drove across the moats. You don't see a lot
of moats these days in the United States. I just
(01:31):
got finished feeding the gators, so they weren't too riled up.
I hope gators. What are we What are we talking
about today, Scott? Uh, We're just gonna go over some
of the early training camp headlines that have that have hit. Um.
Everyone's in the best shape of their life. Everyone literally everybody. Uh.
Allen Lazard is a is a Hall of Famer, Derek
(01:52):
Carr is a Hall of Favor future Hall of Famers.
Nothing but good news. Uh, nothing but good news, except
we should start in Tampa Bay. Kind of start in
Tampa Bay. Bad news. Not not a not an offense
well he's an offensive player, but not a fantasy player.
But All Pro center Ryan Jensen looks like he's probably
done for the year. Huh. Yeah, that's that's not good
(02:14):
for for that line. They've they've been building up a
lot of a lot of stuff. They're going and grabbing weapons.
You know, it is it is a hit, but you know,
hopefully they can It's early enough that maybe the offensive
line can gel by the season. Yeah, and I mean
it's Jensen likely done. And from last year, they're they're
gonna be missing Ali Marpette who retired and uh, forgive me,
(02:37):
I'm forgetting his name off top of my head. But
another starting lineman is now with um the Bengals. So
it looks like going into the season, the the Bucks
are gonna be down three linemen from last year. So
that's that's concerns me a little bit for Leonard four
Nett and uh, of course Tom Brady and his pass catchers.
And speaking of tom Brady's pass catchers, think about the
(03:01):
the Julio signing, hate the number uh signing. Is he
gonna play tight end? You think? You know he he
actually was fairly okay when he played and when it
was fully healthy. Over the last two years, he's just
missed a lot of games and that's his biggest bugaboo recently.
In fact, he's had those lower leg injuries his whole career.
You know, so um that that's that's the concern with
(03:24):
Julio is the is the injuries. They the Temp Bay
Buccaneers also uh said they did not put they cleared. Basically,
they cleared Chris Godwin, So he's not going to be
on pup. He's gonna actually sounds like he's well ahead
of schedule. Um and I'm still not convinced he's gonna
be ready week one, though, we will see. I think
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one thing bringing in Julio does is they can take
their time with him a little bit. Maybe he doesn't
start on the PUP, but maybe he's back in a
few weeks. In My main takeaway from the whole Julio
signing and then this Godwin news was just how quickly
everyone has dismissed Russell Gage a couple of weeks ago.
I'm not either. I mean, outside of Mike Evans, I
(04:05):
still based on ADP, Julio's ADP is spiked. Gauges has
fallen Godwin's. Godwin was always getting drafted before Gauge even
before this news. But uh yeah, based on ADP right now,
I mean I like Russell Gage more than Julio Seeson
long I'm not convinced. I mean, Gauge has eight touchdowns
(04:26):
over the last two seasons. Yea who he has for
Gauges twice as many touchdowns, he's like twice as young.
Here's here's not thing. Here's the really the real thing
with Gauge is cost. Like I think he's gonna be
He's gonna have good games this year. He's probably better
and best ball as Hill have his spike weeks. Yeah,
but I think the big thing with Gauges his price
was starting to get to the point where you're you
(04:48):
started to get a little more on the fence. But
now as prices dropping again, and that's what that's when
you want to buy on him. And lastly on the Bucks,
we briefly mentioned him and talking about Jensen and Leonard Bournett.
Yeah not fat. Yeah, he looked pretty good. Yeah, rumors
of him being to sixty a few weeks ago reported
into camp at two forty four, which for the size
(05:10):
guy he is, like he's he's just a big dude.
I think he just like went to Taco Bell for
one last blowout that the day before. He got weight
in that day. But he's shed all that water weight,
so not too concerned. We'll see that the b M
I of Wondard four Nette, Yeah, they we'll see there.
There always seems to be a little bit of sharing
down there. But Ronald Jones gone, Rashod White in GEO.
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Bernard should be healthy this year. They they've they've got
they've got depth behind Fournette, but he should be mostly
the carrier there, next next guy we want to talk about.
Let's stay in the division and talk some a couple
of Saints talking points. I think Micky Thomas is the
key one here, uh present from day one of camp
(05:52):
running routes. They're not no one's in pads, but he's
in uniform. Uh. He looks like he'll be ready week one,
and mitt no one was convinced he was gonna be
ready week one all summer long on winter. He was
getting drafted outside of the top thirty wide receivers are
right in that range. But if he is fully healthy
going in to the season, where do you have him think?
I mean, I think you got to treat him as
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a top fifteen option. You could. I I don't know
that I have him that high, and I don't know
how much I believe it just yet. I mean, he's
a he's about three years away from good fantasy production
at this point. A little over to. It's been a while,
but back then we were arguing him as the number
one overall pick in fantasy football, and I wasn't. I
wasn't too convinced by some of the earlier videos. This offseason,
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we will see I do kind of like Chris Olave's
skill set with Jamis Winston. Personally, I'm not gonna rank
him over Michael Thomas probably, but I'm I'm probably still
avoiding Michael Thomas to pay if he's going that high. Yeah,
Winston is a guy if you're gonna wait on quarterback
in your draft, who was very intriguing to me. Now
with Thomas healthy, you just mentioned a lot that they
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stud rookie. They signed Jarvis Landry, Alvin Kamara, who from
what I'm hearing, I don't think he's getting suspended this year.
That's That's what I'm thinking too, because the league is
not going to do anything until the matter is settled
outside outside the lines, right, it does, and it doesn't
seem like any kind of you know, conviction or settled
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whatever is going to happen until after the football season.
So Jamis Winston, I mean, he's got some weapons, he's healthy.
It's a good late shot. He can throw a lot
of picks. Of course, does feel like one of these
years that in one quarterback leagues you almost don't even
need to draft one and you can pick one up
after they're happen. Super flex leagues there they're it's deep.
It feels like a lot of great late options like Winston,
(07:42):
I like Davis Mills and Jared Goff is kind of intriguing.
Maybe Daniel Jones will talk a little more giants in
a minute. Sure, how about we do that now we
talked to enough Michael Thomas. Let's talk about say Kwon
Barkley looking incredible, making some incredible catchet like their highlight reel. Right,
but like if they quam Barkley is last year. Honestly,
(08:03):
that ankle injury was kind of a fluke deal, you know.
Oh yeah, he just steps he stepped on his teammates, yeah,
and twist his ankle of the side and got the
big bulge that we all saw the pictures of. Uh
if he's a percent back, huge pass catcher in that offense. Um, yeah,
Barkley's a guy I've talked about a few times over
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the last month or two as a great bounce back candidate.
Last year, it was his first year back from the
torn a c L or m c L, and running
backs generally take a couple of years to come back
from that, two years come back from that. So this
will be his second year and last year that the
Giants arguably the worst offensive line in the NFL. They
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made a significant investment in the old line in the draft.
So Barkley, I've been doing Best Ball draft since February.
Scott and I remember he was going, uh, mid to
late third in the winter, and how he's he's climbed
up to early second, and I think he's once preseason
games start. He's not gonna play a tone in the preseason.
(09:08):
But he reels off of seventy eight just one highlight
play in the in the game, He's going to be
back in that. Yeah, wait, first mid first round, Conville. Like,
right now, I'm starting like Barkley more than Nag Harris.
Who's going before? Do you do rankings? Where do you
where do you have? I have him at RB eight
or not RB nine, I think right now, which is
(09:28):
higher than he's going. I think he's going about RB
twelve or so. I do them in my head. I
don't publish any I should, I wish I did. I
need to do that, but uh yeah, I feel like
he's going too late and I'm going off course a
little bit here in Dalvin Cook going too late. But
but if so, if I'm in the late for have
a late pick in the first round, and I'm going
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running back, running back Cook Barkley all day, I've been
doing that a ton. I love this RB ten. We
basically have our nines and tense flipped. So, um, he
has him at and I have him at nine. Certainly
ORB one upside if you say absolute RB one upside,
and you're getting him in the third in a lot
of cases sometimes the fourth event, which is that's pretty late, honestly. Um,
(10:13):
let's let's go on to do we want to talk
about the camp battle between Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald,
which is looking kind of gross on both ends. Yeah,
that's not too fantasy relevant. Really, how do you know
that Baker and d J. Moore have been showing some
chemistry early on in camp? But I mean it's really
(10:34):
about who benefits mostly when it comes to McCaffrey d J. Moore.
Let's let's skip it. It's it's not super super fantasy relevant.
Let's go over to the Chiefs. The Chiefs lost Tyreek Hill,
who's going to replace him? Juju is making great plays,
sky Moore is the TACA camp. These guys fantasy was
super fantasy relevant. They've been making h and again, everyone's
(10:57):
been making great plays in camp so far. Everyone, I'm
super excited to see any kind of football football action.
But you know everyone, I was really concerned, Uh, not concerned.
But let's put it this way. Before Tyreek was traded
to the Dolphins, it was josh Allen Patrick Mahomes In
every draft I did, whether it was super flex or
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one quarterback, they were going in that order. They would
go earlier and super flex drafts. Of course he'll gets
traded all of a sudden, I'm seeing Herbert going before Mahomes,
h Lamar Jackson. A lot of times, Mahomes is kind
of like he's still a top five quarterback based on
ADP and it was all because he lost Tyreek. But
now I'm looking at sky Moore and Jujus looking good.
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I like MVS. Now I'm starting to think like it's
it just won't be centered around one person. It will
be spread out more. And of course Kelsey is still around,
So I think people got overreacted a little bit to
the loss of tyreek Hill. I think the Chiefs are
gonna be just fine. And uh, Mahomes is still the
best her back in the NFL. Yeah, talent wise, talent, Yeah,
(12:02):
there's yeah, there's there's that top four or five that
just like you can, you can flip around however you want,
and I'm going to be fine with it. Even in
Scott Fish Bowl, I have seen Mahomes was sliding to
the QB four QB five range. So if if he
falls to you in your drafts that far, I think
it's a gift at this point because I'm not Tyreek
Hale will be missed, but not not as much as
(12:23):
I thought initially. Know what do you think about the
reports of sky More potentially taking some They're saying, uh
that everybody wants to be the next whatever works last year. Yeah,
they've been showing that those packages in practice so far.
And Andy Reid said something along the lines of him
having like running back legs or something like that taking
(12:46):
plays in the backfield, Tony taking place from the backfield
debot and uh sky More and Curtis Sam But there
seems to be a lot of them this year that
they're like, this guy is going to do this because
creative guy, right, And we saw Tyreek Hill take some
carries out of the backfield, so I'm sure we'll see
some of that from sky more. But uh yeah, everyone's Scott.
(13:09):
It's gonna be tough to get over a wide receiver
wearing the number twenty four, But since it's my favorite number,
kind of groovy jr. Uh, I'll allow it, and I'll
probably overdraft him someplace. I I want at least a
couple just in case, because there's a chance he leads
leads down the rookie wide receivers in receiving yards this year.
Let's talk George Pickens. Let's stick with rookie wide receivers. Uh,
(13:31):
George Pickens Uh with the Steelers, of course, nothing but
good things coming out of Steelers camp. For those unfamiliar
with George Pickens, uh tour his knee up last spring,
he would have been the He's out of Georgia. Basically,
in my mind, would have been the top wide receiver
taking if he did didn't stuff with this knee injury
(13:51):
last spring. He came back last college season, played the
last three or four games, um looked pretty good. But
of course it's coming back from a major knee injury.
But he looks healthy now. And uh, I think the
Steelers got a steal with Pickens, And of course Jante
Johnson is still wide receiver one there. But I'm thinking
I like Pickens more than Chase Claypool going into this year.
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Who Claypool getting drafted before pickings? So I think if
you incorporate Price, I can definitely see that he's gonna
get on the field a decent amount. But the wide
receiver three in Pittsburgh just it has been so boom
or bust for so many years, and it's you know,
it's the same coaching, it's different quarterback, but it's everything
so so much the same there that Um, Yeah, to
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be determined if I really like Pickens is a really
great high upside late pick, just because the immense amount
of talent and we've already seen some of those you know,
one handed catches that he made, especially early in college. Um, uh,
it camps so far, So I take it back. I
think Jamis and Williams would have been the top wide
(14:57):
receiver taken, but he also suffered injuries. National championship game.
But George Pickens, I think we're not sold on Jamison
Williams of the Lions of course being ready, Uh not
at all. Pickens like it will be ready and he
looks ready for the league right now. But like you said,
it was all concerned his quarterback really right, Yeah, and
(15:18):
like all the concerns, like nobody thought Pickens wasn't talented.
It was just you know, off field and maturity and stuff.
You know, if if he comes to work as a
bro like yeah, so, uh, we got some more things
we want to talk about. That's happening camp so far.
But we're going to take a quick break. You gotta
pay the bills. Gotta gotta pay some bills. Well, does
(15:42):
charge need to pay the bills like yourself with just
sell off some of those gold statues that are in
the yards, maybe their gold statutes of himself. The water
is pouring out of it. It's pretty There's one of Scraps,
there's one of Pepper, the other dog. What's the other
dog to Pepper? Scraps and Pepper. All right, we're gonna
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take a break. We will be right back in a minute.
Welcome back to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm your host today anyway,
(16:25):
Scott Fish sitting across from me as Brian Johnson. What's
going on? We're co host. I don't even I'm not
your host, I'm your co hosts Brian Johnson. Team in
this tag team? In this one like the what was
your favorite tag team back in the w w F days?
I know, what's the w w E Gosh, so many
good ones. Probably having Nash Scott Hall tag team that
(16:49):
was a little later than I was. More than you watched.
You were into wrestling a little later on in life
than I was. Remember the Rockers? Okay, no, no, I was.
I was in wrestling at a young age. I just
don't I don't remember the names as well. You know,
they didn't have a name, but there was Hack Saw,
Jim Duggan and who did he team up with? Anyway,
(17:12):
we're getting off topic. Yere off topic. Now we should
know this stuff is he's wrestling all day? Think, uh,
let's let's go over to Buffalo where Isaiah Mackenzie is
the absolute talk of camp. Right now, how do you
feel about zam Mackenzie? They just they just signed Crowder
to take that role and Mackenzie is the one stepping
up apparently. Yeah, this was like the first like bombshell
(17:35):
fantasy relevant story out of camp was Isaiah Mackenzie running
with the ones. Like you said, the Bills signed Jameson
Crowder in the off season, and Crowder was a guy
going you know, around eleven twelve ISS in drafts and
Mackenzie was going undrafted it basically on the last round.
And now that gap is I don't even see Mackenzie
(17:57):
drafted any of my drafts I've gone so far but
before this, right, But I'm not overreacting too much. Um,
of course, cold Beasley no longer there, but you know,
Beasley was very, very viable option in fantasy football for
the last few years in that offense. So it'll be
interesting to see who uh gets the majority of work
(18:18):
out of the slot for Buffalo. But it's gonna be
way more of a competition than initially. Josh Allen does
throw the slot a ton, but was it because of
what he because he had Beasley there, or or was
it you know, their their scheme. They also seemingly with
the addition to James Cook and and the fact they
went after j D. Mckiss i and think things like that,
they seemingly want to get the ball to the running
(18:39):
back in space as well, so that it's gonna be
interesting what happens behind Diggs there. Yeah, and uh yeah,
I mean everyone's expecting a big bump in production from
Gabriel Davis, Dawson Knox uh of course popped off last year.
He's a red zone threat. So speaking of Digs, I mean,
one of the best wide receivers in the league, of course,
(19:00):
but there's just so many feed right now. Um, I'm
a little worried about Digs when it comes to just
you know, his fantasy. Potentially he's going to be a
threat on the field, and his upside is like he's
still probably gonna finish right around the top twelve wide
receivers even with the downtick. It just may not be
(19:21):
a wide receiver one overall upside like it like it
was a couple of years ago. To hit that like
a hundred and fifty target mark might be tough. I
think I think the main news here is just the
way Mackenzie's playing with the ones, the way he's standing
out and the flashes we saw last year. He's draftable now,
He's you shouldn't ignore him now. You should probably be
(19:42):
taking that dart throughout the end. And what people need
to be also concerned with when it comes to Buffalo
quote unquote on concerns. They've got a great defense. Uh,
it didn't show in that the last game against the
Chiefs in the playoffs. And they're white and a few
other people, but they're not They're not going to be
in a ton of shootouts. Are probably gonna get up big.
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They're in division. Ones are going to be interesting with Oakland, Uh,
the Chargers and the Chiefs, those will be some interesting ones.
But you're right, their defense is actually it's actually pretty good.
So yeah, this I'm really just talking to Digs. I
don't know. The price tag seems a little heavy heavy
for me, Diggs, and then Gabe Davis is going pretty
early for me too. But Gave Davis went from a
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guy that everybody loved but that but he was going
at a reasonable price. And now, like I I mentioned
this on another show the other day, I saw Gabriel
Davis Boys wide receiver fourteen in a draft and I'm like,
that is just ridiculous. Well, there's no greater recency bias
than plus yeah d four touchdown game which was what
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Davis did uh in that loss to the Chiefs in
the divisional round last year. Before we leave Buffalo, we
would be remiss if we didn't bring up Zack Moss
on this show, a favorite of the show. But I've
seen little Steve. I've seen a little Moss I had.
We're talking about a guy who was inactive healthy scratch
multiple times last year. Is is taking snaps like splitting ones.
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That's come on, we we joke on the best shape
of their life narrative. But he did look like he
was in good shape. And it really, it really feels
like one of those those healthy scratches put something in
his mind that he's like, Okay, I got I gotta
step it up. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't call u
Zack Moss a dead cat just yet. Honestly, I think
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this makes everything worse. I think James Cook had some
decent PPR upside. I think like as a late flyer,
he doesn't he never he averaged like seven touches of
game in college like he's he's not He's not gonna
be huge, but he would have some weeks and Signletary
would have some weeks. This just muddies the field even
more for me right now, the story is the only
Bill you can feel confident in his Josh Allen there's
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just way too when he mouths defeat in Buffalo. But yeah,
we shall see what happens. So over to the Packers, Uh,
Allen Lazard being talked up by his his his quarterback
Cameron Poe. Uh Watson hurt Romeo Dubbs. You seem to
like I coming on the draft from like this is
a nice deep threat that might have some best boss
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Spike Weeks. Uh, what are you liking over there? For
the wide receivers in Green Bay? Yeah? You mentioned was
for those who don't know. Aaron Rodgers when asked about
his thoughts I'm going from um Allen lazarread. He's like, well,
I'm going from one Hall of Famer to another, Yeah,
which was in response to Davante Adams who said the
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same thing about going from Aaron Rodgers to Derek Carr,
going going from one Hall of Famer tune. Now, Lazard
had eight touchdowns last year, minimal targets and like you know,
you play the extrapolation game, He's gonna have like twenty touchdowns.
But again, he had Davante Adams are taking the heat
off him. He was facing single coverage every snap he
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was on the field. I doubt Alanzar has ever been
double teamed his entire life. That might happen now, So
we'll see if he actually can be the guy. I'm
not fully convinced. We shall see, but uh, that talk
is uh. I've seen al Moizard's ADP rising over the
last month or two. He's getting a little price. I've
done drafts for him and Watson go in a very
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similar area, and I feel like Lizard is just so
much safer like Watson. For me, is like he played
at a lower level and he should have been He
should have been able to do way more than he
was given his you know, he's kind of a physical
you know beasts. So I think Watson is a huge
question mark. I think he could he could like his
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range of aut comps is huge. He could completely bust
or he could be the Packers wide receiver one. I
just feel a lot safer with Lizard. Yeah, and Aaron
Rodgers tends to trust people he's played with before and Watson.
You you referring to Christian Watson, of course, when when
drafted by the Packers in the early second round. Uh, huge,
huge bumping value. But now he's in danger of missing
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some He's not practicing right now. He had a little
a minor knee procedure done. They said he probably could
have played through it, but they figured why why risk it?
But it might be a slow start for Christian Watson,
So I think we're gonna see him slide down the
draft boards a little bit these next couple of weeks.
And Romeo Dubs, I wish he was Dubes d O
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U B S. I guess that's Dubs. Green Bay has
always got weird pronunciations with their players last names, going
back to Rhett Favre, but Dubs uh could be a
steal for both Green Bay and fantasy managers willing to
draft him. He's good in camp so far, but again,
these guys are running around in short shorts and no pads.
So I'm not gonna be too much into this Dubs
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Dubs hype just yet. Yeah, stay tuned for next week
when we talk about training camp battles. Once again, speaking
of hype for what feels like the third year row
Paris Campbell sleeper seasons, not even third, it's every year
like when he came, when he was drafted, like he
was gonna grow with Andrew Luck. Remember, like it feels
like it's every year this this comes up. But I
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still kind of believe a little bit. Yeah, I know,
I'm sure Church believes. Charge has always kind of been
a Paris Campbell fan, but uh, you know it was
we're talking Colts now, and uh when Colts wide receivers
Michael Pittman the clear wide receiver one and forever, not forever,
but ever since the draft, it was Alec Peters and
those were the only two Colts receivers I saw getting drafted.
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But then as we got into the spring, earlier in
the summer, Paris Campbell was healthy, and now that gap
has closed big time. Where now I've seen some people
take Paris Campbell over Alec Peters. I don't know. I
don't want to get hurt again by Paris Campbell. I'm
I'm resisting unless like he's falling to me in the
last round. I did a show about six D eight
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weeks ago that I talked about Paris Campbell in a
sleeper for this season, and I'm pretty sure that's why
he's now gay draft. No, I'm just kidding. I hope
he stays healthy, but he's got I gotta see it
from him before I'm gonna be willing to take him
as a wide receiver four or five options for me
on any of my fantasy teams. It's weird to to
remember that t Y Hilton is still there. Nobody has
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talked about t Y Hilton this entire offseason. It feels
like t Y Hilton, he's got to be what thirty
I read it, I read I read a thing the
other day. He'll still be in the max Um, probably
just enough to annoy fantasy owners because he won't be
playing there, because you'll be playing other cult starters. All right,
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this this was the I'm gonna call it a scandal,
the biggest scandal in preseason so far. This is this
is this is fun. This isn't fantasy relevant. Russell Wilson
shows up first day of camp. First off, he was
in like a vehicle straight out of mad Max Fury Road. Yeah,
that was. And you could tell he's never taken this
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thing off roading once because the tires were like Spotless's.
That was. That was interesting and interesting vehicle. But he
jumps out of his tank. That probably costs like four
dollars to fill up right now, and that was just
for the drive to the stadium wearing his own jersey,
Broncos jersey, and it's a throwback jersey. I get they
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wear throwbacks jerseys, but I don't even know where to
begin with this. People he's wearing the same number number
three at that Drew Lock war. And people are like, oh,
he's given throwing some shade at Lock. But you can
see a little badge because there's a throwback jersey his
name in the bottom left. But have you ever of course,
players wear their own jerseys when they play or in practice,
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and they wear him in commercials or like they go
to a children's hospital or something like that. But just
to rock your own jersey like that is so off putting.
This guy. He is a strange bird man. He doesn't
seem like a strange burden. But we just had to
mention that. And you're not if you're not talking wearing
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his own jersey, you're not having real camp. I don't
know that I've I've seen that too much, Like I
feel like I would have remembered had I seen that.
But and Aaron Rodgers shows up like like Cameron Poe
out of con Air. He uh, nobody? He now who
was never mind? Yeah, let's he didn't do the proper
headshake and kind of though he tried with like slicking
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his hair back, but he didn't like pull the full
Nick Cage effect. But he did a pretty good job.
Let's go over to the San Francisco forty niners. Maybe
this is the last one we talked about. We're about
a half an hour, and so why not Brandon Brandon
and who apparently has taken a big step. He's starting
to be more of a leader out there. Um, he's
not going to get the doghouse treatment he started the
season with last year. He he you know, rounded out
(28:55):
the season fairly decent. Um. How do you feel about
you because like it sounds like everything from majurity, maturity,
to work ethic to you know, plays, it seems like
he has taken that step this year. Um. And and
he's on a good page with Trey Lance. Yeah, he
looked amazing his rookie year in and like you said,
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last year, he wasn't even really playing when the season
started and it wasn't because of injury or anything like that.
And you're just like Oh my god, what's happened to
Brandon Aiyuk? But then he came came on strong. Uh
his last season wrapped up, So yeah, I'm I got
high hopes for him going into this year. It's really
just a matter of, well, there's a there's a few matters.
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Is Deebo Samuel are going to be back? It's seeming
like he will be now. Um, I don't think that
really hurts Auk. It might even help him a little
more than hurt him. It's really it's Trey Lance ready
to be a pro quarterback, and we're gonna find out
there there they're either gonna cut Jimmy G or trade him.
Doesn't seem like anyone really wants to trade for Jimmy
G right now. So it's Trey Lances team. It's really
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just a matter of how accurate Tray Lance is now
involved UK is in this offense. Of course, like we
just said, Deebo Samuel, George Kittle a threat San Francisco
loves to run the ball. Tray Lance is a very
mobile quarterback and I have a lot of design runs.
So that's that That's gonna be the question, you know,
young quarterback, how many like we are valuing all these players,
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this fantasy assets, how many he can can he truly
lift up on a consistent week to week basis. But
the talent right now is there to justify the hype
for AUK. But I'm concerned that the volume won't be there,
That's the thing. So I'm kind of off a this
year so I can like see the volume justify the
ADP basically if he if he gets a targets, I'm
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in all day, but I don't know if he's It
does feel like you're concentrated offense though. If if there's
only four fifty attempts coming from tray lance, which should
be pretty dang low. Um I could I could see
a hundred ish going to the three mains. So and
John Jennings is the wide receiver three, but he was
utilized last year. There'll be other targets, but I feel,
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I feel, I feel like it will be concentrated to
those three at least for fantasy output. Alright, well, I
think I think we hit all the let's call it,
let's let's call it right right around thirty minutes because
we gotta do two hour shows coming up. I'm excited.
I'm actually excited for that. It's not got to do that.
I I love getting together with two co hosts. You know,
(31:32):
three of us in the room talking football training camp,
actual preseason games. Charch Charge will be back hosting. I
think you and Matted on the first show. I think
I get the week. I think I. I think I'm
on twelve of the next thirteen show, so you're gonna
get a lot of me. I'm sorry for that. Guys,
everyone listening. Are all the Scott Fish Bull drafts done?
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I think so. I'm pretty sure. It's it's pretty rare
for them to go this long. Only before this year,
only five in history had gone fourteen days, and it's
we'd be on day like nineteam right now. I think.
I think they're all done. And now Underdog is still
running their best Ball satellites. To a little about that, Yes,
go to Underdog Fantasy dot com and you can sign
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up for a fish Bowl satellite. You can win your
way in next year to play against me or Brian
or Charge or you know, Matthew Berry or whoever you know.
We're all in it. Everybody in the industries. Most people
are in the in the industry or in it um
and on just yeah, just look for the scott fish
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do one draft and and that money goes straight to
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the J. J. Watt Foundation. If you're thinking about doing
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You can win your way at the scott fish Bowl
next year and uh yeah you'll you'll see some familiar
names in your draft room, I'm sure. And another way
to get in scott fish Bowl next year other than
just signing up scott fish Bowl dot Com. No guarantees
(32:58):
because you've got thousands and if you can get everyone in,
you would, right, yeah, I would. But it's it's at
about a one in ten one and twelve click. In
the event you don't hit that lotto, you can win
your way in again this year at Guillotine League's dot
com in the Scott fish Bowl Super Chop Contest. It
is a fifty dollar entry, but all all proceeds go
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to charity. Um and if you're unfamiliar with the Super Chop,
it's a form of a guy team league where it's
twelve twelve person leagues and what you need to do
is win your twelve person league. So that's the regular
season is eleven first eleven weeks, you win your twelve
person league, you're into the scott Fish Bowl automatically, all
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twelve of those winners will be and you also win
a sweet ring from Trophy Smack. You also get a
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to Rhodo Wire. Yeah. Part of that fifty dollar sign
up you get you get a Rhoto Wire subscription. But
you you win your your twelve recently, you you go
to the playoff round where you'll face the other eleven
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league winners and you have a whole brand new draft
in November, which is awesome. Like who's drafting in November?
Basic basically nobody. So go to Guy Team Leagues dot com.
Just go to the Ways to Play tab. You'll find
the scott Fish Bowls Super Chop and uh sign up.
I know there's about it's about eight spots left. Yeah,
this is one thing we have not publicized publicly yet
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because we wanted our FFW listeners to have the first shot.
Like you're hearing it now, go get in there because
the second chart and I start you know, putting it
out there. It's like last year what it fill in
a couple of hours after Charch and I started mentioning,
took about a day. Yeah, it was. It was filled
the first day when Charch and I started, all of
us started mentioning on social media. So, um, you hear this,
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go get in there because the second we do that,
it's going to fill up quick act. Now I've never
said that before. It's like on TV. It's actually special
for the Fantasy Football Weekly listeners to be able to
get in there first. Alright, Scott, we did it. We
did another off season in the books. Yep. Absolutely. Uh.
You can follow me on Twitter at Scott Fish twenty four.
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You can follow Brian Johnson on Twitter at bt x J.
I think that's all for now, so we'll see you
next week. Listen, we'll hear you. Now, we won't even
see or hear you. We'll just we'll hope that you're
listening to us next week for the two hour season
premiere of season. Is it season? I think it's season
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of Pharasee Football Weekly twenty nine times. Anyway, thanks for listening.
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